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  • 21
    Mar
    2012
    2:37pm, EDT

    Blogbuzz: The Illinois aftermath

    By NBC's Adam Perez
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    Adding to his list of victories, Mitt Romney’s convincing win in Illinois has many bloggers analyzing what it means -- and if it could signal the end of the GOP race.

    Conservative Erick Erickson of Red State simply says: “In Illinois, Romney won. Period.”

    "The Santorum campaign stumbled badly in Puerto Rico, gave up a lead in Illinois, and the candidate proved horribly undisciplined. Like Dug the dog in Up getting distracted by every random squirrel, Rick Santorum loses all ability to focus when social issues come up. His lack of discipline and message focus steering those issues to families as he did so beautifully in the Mesa, AZ debate has hindered him and solidified a media narrative that he is more concerned with those issues than jobs and the economy. It is not fair. It is not even accurate. But fairness and accuracy are rare commodities in American retail politics and Rick Santorum has not leveraged his strengths well.

    On the other hand, Mitt Romney’s win in Illinois still highlights his struggles. Blue collar voters are not fond of him. Staunchly conservative voters are not either. Evangelical voters also are not fond of him. The voters do not feel quite comfortable with their pick. But though evangelicals and social conservatives are the base of the base of the Republican Party, they are not enough to stop Mitt Romney and a spending advantage some have estimated topped 20 to 1 against Santorum in Illinois.”

    Andrew Sullivan at the Daily Beast notes that although Romney won, he continually struggles to convince the Conservative base, which can pose a problem in November.

    “…In a state where Romney did very well, with a 12 point margin over Santorum, that he still lost non-college educated whites by 7 percent and was essentially tied with Santorum among those earning under $50,000 a year. I think this means real vulnerability to the attack line coming in the fall that he is the Wall Street mega-rich candidate who wants even more tax cuts for people like him and Ryan-style cuts in the safety net. And he still lost the white evangelical vote by seven points.

    I don't think his weakness among the very conservative matters much for the general. They'll turn out for him. But I do think his continued weakness with the core enthusiasts in the GOP base, white evangelicals, is a potential problem for turnout this November. Some of it is surely about his Mormonism; some of it his patrician Yankee style. But he'll need something powerful to motivate these voters, while not poisoning his appeal to moderate Republicans by emphasizing issues like abortion, gays and contraception.”

    But Jay Cost, conservative contributor at National Review Online, says if Romney continues to win with his core groups, the path to the GOP presidential nomination will come sooner than later.

    “Without a substantial shift in these major blocs (suburban, upscale, relatively moderate voters), there is no way Santorum will come close to Romney in terms of votes or delegates. The electoral math is simply undeniable: The Mid-Atlantic states and California, where demographics favor Romney, are still to vote; plus, the big delegate hauls remaining in the South — North Carolina and Texas — are more like Florida than Mississippi, full of upscale, suburban voters who have typically backed Romney...

    Thus, the Pennsylvania primary in late April is key. The demographic mix will favor Romney, but it is Santorum’s home state. If Romney wins there, game over. If Santorum wins, then the race will probably drag out until June.”

    Jennifer Rubin, a pro-Romney conservative opinion blogger for the Washington Post writes that after Romney’s victory last night in Illinois, he is finally receiving the credit he deserves. 

    “Mitt Romney’s Illinois win was so impressive that neither Rick Santorum nor the press corps bothered to spin the results. Whatever the verb — “crushed,” “rolled,” or “clobbered” — there was rare consensus that Romney had finally crossed the threshold from “weak front-runner” to ”presumptive nominee.” Both the extent of the victory and the reminder that Santorum is essentially a well-funded Mike Huckabee (winning only in rural areas or among very conservative evangelicals) have, it seems, forced the chattering class to adjust its analysis to fit reality...

    As we’ve said before, by the end of a presidential primary, the winner seems more polished and presidential than at the beginning of the contest. This is both a factor of how we view him and the shot of confidence a candidate gets after all the elections, speeches, debates and interviews. It is a grueling process, but in the end the winner is elevated. The press and Democratic operatives would have us believe that Romney has been diminished by the process. In fact, as last night demonstrated, quite the opposite is true.”

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    It always has been Romney, and dogs everywhere howl their disapproval!

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  • 27
    Apr
    2011
    11:32am, EDT

    Blog buzz: Obama addresses birthers

    By Ali Weinberg

    The blogosphere erupted with reactions to the White House’s release of President Obama’s so-called “long-form” birth certificate today.

    Liberal blogger Steve Benen at The Washington Monthly doubted the disclosure would discourage conspiracy theorists who believe President Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

    If there's one thing right-wing voices have made clear, it's that reason and evidence are irrelevant. They didn't come up with a birther garbage out of sincere concerns; they came up with this to cast doubts on the president's legitimacy and make him out to be The Other in the eyes of the mainstream.

    I don't necessarily blame White House officials for wanting to end this nonsense once and for all, but if they're expecting the hysterical right to move on, they're likely to be disappointed.

    John Aravosis at the liberal AMERICAblog suggested the move is too little, too late.

    There doesn't appear to be anything more on this form than on the other one they released three years ago.  Why didn't they just release this then and be done with it?

    Blogger Andrew Sullivan at The Daily Beast also asked why Obama waited so long, and assailed the media for not putting more pressure on the Obama administration for providing the long-form certificate in order to give the birthers the material evidence they were calling for.

    I think this should have been done long ago. Because a president has to put his public responsibilities before his pride and his privacy. That's the price of the job - to defuse or debunk conspiracy theorists or just skeptics with all the relevant information you have.

    It's also the job of the media always to press for more information, not less. But so many spent their energy arguing that Obama need do no more and piling on the Birthers. They still seem to think they are gatekeepers, possessors of the power to decide what is or is not legitimate for citizens to ask of their public officials.

    Get over yourselves, MSM. And do your job - not defending the right of people in power to protect themselves, but scrutinizing them relentlessly, with every fact and document you can get. You don't defuse conspiracy theories or end legitimate doubts by telling public officials they need not provide clear and available evidence to rebut them. Yes, some will still suspect. But many will walk away. That's worth doing.

    Meanwhile, Tanya Somander at the progressive blog Think Progress noted that Donald Trump said last week that he would release his tax returns when the president released his birth certificate.

    Of course, now that Obama has officially put this issue to rest, the secretive billionaire may find another excuse to avoid releasing the potentially damning documents — like demanding Obama’s college records, his SAT scores, college thesis, and on and on…

    In fact, conservative blogger Erick Erickson at Red State wondered if the president would now also release his college transcripts, adding that the release of the birth certificate confirms “what most of us have always known.”

    Of course, once the birth certificate issue is dispatched, will he release his college transcripts? That’s the issue for me.

    When the birth certificate is reviewed and we can see what most of us have always known — that he was born in Hawaii — we can move on. For some, moving on will be to wonder what religion the man is.

    He can’t win on this. Not that I care.

    Jonah Goldberg at the conservative NRO noted what he views as the irony of President Obama decrying this episode of “silliness” just before engaging in, as Goldberg sees it, frivolous pursuits.

    [Obama] railed against “distractions” and “silliness” that prevent us from grappling with our very serious problems.  Then, he left to go tape the Oprah Winfrey show and hold a fundraiser. No word on when his next tee time will be.

    Goldberg’s NRO colleague Daniel Foster predicted that this disclosure would not assuage the hardcore “birthers.”

    Here’s the long-form birth certificate, so birthers can get to work on explaining why we now need a photograph of President Obama’s parents standing in front of Kapiolani hospital with a copy of the August 4, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Star Advertiser in one hand and a complete genome in the other.

    Conservative blogger Ed Morrissey at Hot Air said the news is actually a lost political opportunity for President Obama, as he tried to paint the issue, and those pushing it, as a distraction, relatively early in the election cycle.

    Some of those who pushed this issue over the last two-plus years are now crying foul, saying “Why did he wait this long to release it?”  Why would Obama have wanted to release it?  After all, it made for a perfect way to paint his opposition as lunatics.  Frankly, I’m surprised he didn’t wait until after the GOP primaries.  He could have used the bump more then than now.

    Morrissey also said the issue dissipated “whatever credibility [Donald] Trump had.”

    Who gets hurt worse by the White House release of Barack Obama’s long-form birth certificate?  If you think that it might be the man who practically made it his campaign platform, think again.  Donald Trump says he totally had Adonis DNA on the issue, or something… He won in the same sense that Charlie Sheen is #winning! by getting canned and then embarrassing himself on a national tour.

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    Quote of the day from DailyKos/Barbara Morrill: That the birthers aren't satisfied with the release of the long form birth certificate isn't surprising. Birthers aren't satisfied because no matter how many documents Barack Obama releases it will never be enough, because there isn't a document in the …

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  • 1
    Apr
    2011
    12:25pm, EDT

    Blog Buzz: March unemployment

    By Ali Weinberg

    The reaction to the news that the unemployment fell to 8.8% in March was received soberly by bloggers on the left and the right.

    White House chief economic adviser Austan Goolsbee laid out the official White House view in his own blog post.

    As long as millions of people are looking for jobs, there is still considerable work to do to replace the jobs lost in the downturn. Nonetheless, the steep decline in the jobless rate and the solid employment growth in recent months are encouraging.

    Goolsbee also noted in his post that this month of job growth was driven primarily by increased employment, not people leaving the labor force – a point that conservative blogger Ed Morrissey at Hot Air also picked up on.  Both Morrissey and bloggers on the left noted, however, that while the addition of 216,000 jobs is good news, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the jobs lost in the recession.

    As good as that news is, it will take a very, very long time to create enough jobs to restore the pre-crash levels of employment.  The civilian participation rate has not changed from its previous 64.2%, which means that those who have stopped looking for work are still sitting on the sidelines.  A year ago, that number was 64.9%.  At this rate, it will take more than five years to add six million jobs back into the economy.  However, one other sign of good news was a slight drop in the number of people not in the work force (a drop of 11,000), which was the first time in more than two years that number has not risen.

    The top-line number is still deceptive in that it compares apples to oranges on unemployment, thanks to the depressed participation rate, but it’s good news to see job additions rise above 200,000 for the second straight month.

    Meteor Blades at the liberal blog Daily Kos has a similar reaction, noting that the projected number of jobs added this year is nowhere near the number lost at the end of 2007, as well as the low percentage of unemployed people actively looking for work.

    At the current rate of hiring, however, the number of Americans with a job will not reach the pre-recession peak until January 2014. And the current rate of hiring is exactly what most analysts predict will be the case. By the end of the year, that might mean 2.5 million new jobs. But 8.4 million jobs were lost in the downturn, which began in December 2007. The unemployment rate is now at the same level as it was two years ago. But that's partly a reflection of the fact so many people have stopped looking for work, which means they're no longer counted among the unemployed. If they rejoin the labor force but can't find jobs, the unemployment rate will rise.

    A few liberal blogs used the news to accuse Republicans of enacting policies that stunted further growth.

    Liberal Comrade DougJ at Balloon Juice:

     It’s pretty clear the markets are responding to the clarity of House Republicans’ policy goals.

    Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen blames Republican federal and state legislators for budget cuts that translated into public sector job losses.

    The 8.8% unemployment rate, while obviously still way too high, is now at its lowest level in two years. What's more, the 216,000 created in March was the best month in about a year, and improved upon February's encouraging numbers.

    Also note, the total would have been even higher had it not been for state and local budget cuts -- the private sector added 230,000 jobs, but the public sector lost 14,000 jobs. Those were jobs that could have been saved were it not for conservative fiscal policies.

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    So, is your glass half full or half empty? My glass is half full as it is really good news to see new jobs coming back.

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  • 28
    Mar
    2011
    12:51pm, EDT

    Blog Buzz: What the president should say

    By Ali Weinberg

    Liberal blogger Andrew Sullivan at the Atlantic said he wants President Obama to address the cost to the United States of the Libya offensive in his 7:30 pm address to the nation tonight.

    A president addressing the nation on a war should be quite explicit on how it will be funded, under a range of scenarios. Some reports this time around suggest that the Saudis may pay the bill. Fine, but tell us. And each year of the costs needed for Afghanistan and Iraq should come out of some other part of the defense budget or require cuts in domestic spending elsewhere. Of course, none of this would be necessary if the Congress just did its job - and demanded fiscal responsibility from the increasingly trigger-happy executive branch. 

    On the right, Victor Davis Hanson at NRO asserted that the United States has two options: take Mummar Khaddafy out immediately or patrol the skies of Libya endlessly, eventually earning the resentment of the rebels and enabling Khaddafy to overpower them. He also laid out some other assumptions about ground and air intervention that he said have been established in previous engagements in the Middle East. Regardless of what the president says tonight, Hanson wrote that he should be working to remove Khaddafy from power.

    ● Those we are seeking to help are usually the weaker of the two parties, and may at some point make deals with our enemies by deprecating the hand that feeds them.

    ● With the exception of Britain, any allies, European or Arab, will not stay to the end, and reappear only when it is in their interests, either in the financial or political sense.

    ● We can take whatever level of public support there was in the beginning and after three months halve it; the most prominent politicians and pundits who championed the intervention will be the most likely, as support withers and the unexpected becomes the norm, to claim the intervention was a mistake, they were misled, or their brilliant original intervention was screwed up the administration’s disappointing (fill in the blanks).

    ● When it is all over, the president always takes a hit: Carter’s screwed-up rescue operation, Bush I with Kurds in the cold on the hills, Bush II with the Iraq insurgency, Clinton with American bodies dragged through Mogadishu, Reagan’s empty shelling after the Marine barracks, etc. Democratic presidents operate without much of an antiwar movement either in Congress or in the public, but their failures tend to confirm, fairly or not, inherent ill-at-ease with and incompetence in the use of force.

    ● Gas prices will either rise or be predicted to rise.

    Given the above, and given the fact that this intervention was a bad idea, poorly articulated and not thought out from the very beginning, the best denouement is to get Qaddafi and get him quickly. Let us hope that, whatever the president says, he has advisers who see what must be done. 

     

     

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    Who cares? No matter WHAT he says, it will not soothe the Obama Haters, who's only mission in life is to bring him down & ther rest of the country along with him!

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  • 18
    Mar
    2011
    12:27pm, EDT

    Blog buzz: Reaction to the UN vote

    By Ali Weinberg

    The UN Security Council’s vote to authorize the international community “to take all necessary measures” to protect Libyan civilians (after which the Khaddafy regime announced a cease-fire, although reports say shots are still being fired) elicited a surprising consensus among some liberal and conservative bloggers: a sense of doubt that moving forward with military operations will be worth the commitments the United States will have to make.

    Liberal blogs seemed to have visions of the development of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

    Balloon Juice’s John Cole, in a post titled “The Hawks Are Winning”

    I’ve already stated my piece on this, and appear to be in a mind-meld with Angela Merkel, who wants to know what comes next when the no-fly zone inevitably fails.

    Well, we all know what comes next- FREEDOM BOMBS FOR EVERYONE.

    He continues:

    The number one goal is not saving civilians, it is getting the no-fly zone in place so that escalation will be easier. When the no-fly zone doesn’t work, we’ll move up to shock and awe, and before you know it, we’ll have troops on the ground. After all, we’re Murrika!

    I’ll let you figure out how this is in our national interest and how entering another war with no clear definition for victory or understandable mission is what we need. And someone let me know what color to change the blog to so we are not accused of being with the terrorists.

    Liberal blogger Andrew Sullivan at The Atlantic:

    So the United States is embarking on another effort at nation-building in a Muslim country where there is no nation.

    And don't tell me we can stop short of this. If you are bombing a territory and arming and advising rebels within it, you are a part of the war. And you are responsible for its consequences. I simply cannot believe that the US is taking custody of yet another chaotic region we cannot begin to understand in favor of people we do not know against a crazy tyrant we spent the past few years rehabilitating.

    Well, I can believe it. If we had elected John McCain, it would be highly believable.

    Over at the Weekly Standard, conservative blogger John Tabin wrote that while the Obama administration took too long to get behind a no-fly zone, he expressed concern over the length of an American military committment.  

    There's no doubt that, as I argued yesterday, the cost/benefit analysis of this course of action has gotten significantly less favorable as the Obama administration has dithered for weeks.

    More:

    I can't shake the feeling that this isn't so much laying the groundwork for Gaddafi's end as it is committing US forces to a longterm mission to enforce a de facto partition. Protecting Eastern Libya may be laudable in and of itself, but it's quite an effort to make if it doesn't topple Gaddafi any time soon.

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    as the Obama administration has dithered for weeks. Sometimes it takes weeks to talk to other nations and go over all the details before deciding on a course of action.

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  • 10
    Mar
    2011
    12:14pm, EST

    Blog Buzz: Wisconsin GOP's 'Cee Lo Green option'

    By Ali Weinberg

    Bloggers come up with a few nicknames for the procedure used by Wisconsin Republicans to vote separately on the collective bargaining portion of the spending bill:

    “The nuclear option” – Hot Air’s Allahpundit 

    “The Cee Lo Green option” – NRO’s Jim Geraghty (via a reader)

    Bloggers on both sides of the Wisconsin budget issue seemed to agree that Republicans would have been politically better off trying this tactic when the standoff first started.

    Liberal blog Balloon Juice’s christian mistermix:

    If the Wisconsin Republicans’ plan was to jam through the defeat of collective bargaining with a sketchy parliamentary move, they should have done it the minute that Democrats vacated the state. If that had happened, the howls would have been loud but fairly short-lived, since it’s easier to energize people when they’re trying to prevent something from happening, rather than complaining after the fact.

    Instead, we have today’s trainwreck. Walker got his number one item, but he paid a huge price. He’s almost certainly a one-term governor. There’s a dissenting Republican in the Senate, and presumably we’ll hear more from him. If there’s a general strike, the union’s side of the case is now clearly outlined in the public mind. If the unions don’t strike, they look like paragons of restraint. And what about the recalls? No matter the outcome, they’ll occupy the press and public attention for the next few months.

    Conservative NRO’s William Voegeli:

    Gov. Scott Walker and the Republicans have been audacious, but not conspicuously nimble… The work-around of passing the non-spending parts of the bill in a separate piece of legislation, one not requiring a super-majority quorum, could have been effected many days ago, without giving the pro-union zealots weeks of free publicity. 

    Allahpundit at the conservative HotAir recognized the political danger of passing a bill this way, but alluded to the last time procedural gymnastics were used to pass a bill: the Democratic push to pass the health care reform bill.

    There may be a backlash to doing it this way, but the backlash is already in effect via the recall campaigns the left is mounting against them. Like Ace says, probably the best thing they can do for themselves politically at this point is pass the damned thing, get it off the table, and let people cool down as it fades from the media cycle.

    Exit question: Don’t you hate it when irregular procedures are used to destroy a de facto filibuster of an unpopular bill?

    But liberal blogger Steve Benen at Washington Monthly said there was irony in Republicans using similar maneuvers that they complained about during the health care fight (even though both sides frequently employ such tactics). He added that in the case of Wisconsin, protestors aren’t as upset about the procedure as they are about what’s in the bill.

    About a year ago, in the midst of a bitter fight over health care reform, one of the top areas of concern among Republicans was about procedure. They cared about the pending legislation, but they really cared about the process.

    And so we were bombarded with complaints about discussions "behind closed doors" and "secret deals." GOP lawmakers who'd relied many times on the same legislative maneuvers were suddenly disgusted with reconciliation, deem and pass, self-executing rules, and the like. Legislation that passed through entirely legitimate means was condemned for having been "rammed through."

    It's curious, then, to consider Republican satisfaction with what occurred in Madison last night.

    …

    To be sure, though, the point of the Democratic outrage in Wisconsin is over the substance, not the process. If there's hypocrisy on display here, it's not bipartisan.

     

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    I think it's called "Elections have consequences and the Republican's won." It's also called "Democracy should not ever buckle under to mob rule."

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  • 10
    Feb
    2011
    11:37am, EST

    Blog Buzz: CPAC

    By Ali Weinberg

    As CPAC gets under way, bloggers so far on both sides of the aisle give their take on the rift between some conservative politicians and groups who have boycotted the conference because of the presence of GOProud, a gay conservative organization.

    John Cole at liberal blog Balloon Juice:

    It’s kind of wild to think about it, but CPAC, which was made up of wingnuts so crazed they cheered Beck and Limbaugh as speakers the past two years, is no longer the nuttiest group of the GOP. There are even more extreme folks who don’t think CPAC is quite bigoted enough and has been too nice to the gays.

    And Jim DeMint, tea party extraordinaire, is the leader of thew new wing.

    And conservative blogger Erick Erickson at RedState said that he is breaking his silence on the divide because GOProud co-founder and board chairman Christopher Barron criticized the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation, which dropped out of the confab because of GOProud’s participation.

    In an interview with Metro Weekly, Barron said of Heritage:

    ”They’ve chosen to – and it’s a mystery to me why – but they’ve chosen to align themselves with the losers.”

    Erickson:

    I have done my best to stay out of this business, keep my mouth shut, and appreciate my friends on both sides of the CPAC divide. Had I not seen this particular attack by GOProud against long time solid conservatives I’d continue keeping my mouth shut. But this is too much. And my guess is that there aren’t many if any willing to call foul, so I will do it.

    As someone who spent time trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, I accept this as conclusive proof that, while it is a Republican organization, GOProud is not a conservative organization.

    Those groups and people who have sat out CPAC this year have done so not because they hate the gays, as Grover Norquist and GOProud would have you believe, but because GOProud is not a conservative organization and its agenda is not a conservative agenda.

    For that, they are called losers and nasty bigots.

    These losers and nasty bigots have done a lot more for the conservative movement than GOProud. And I am very happy to call them my friends.

    This week, I’d much rather be with them than be at CPAC.

     

     

     

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    Why does 'conservative' have to be all-encompassing? Must everyone who believes in small government also be church-going Christians? I think it's amusing that the folks who scream the loudest about the so-called threat of Sharia law infiltrating the US are the ones whose ideology is more in step  …

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  • 10
    Jan
    2011
    3:46pm, EST

    Blog Buzz: The role of rhetoric

    The shooting in Tucson, AZ, of, among others, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, prompted a debate among conservative and liberal bloggers over whether heated, often-violent rhetoric should be discouraged from political discourse or left alone for the sake of free speech.

    Jack Shafer from the left-leaning Slate wrote over the weekend that any restrictions on language, inflammatory or not, would contradict the democratic principle of freedom of speech, and the ability to express one's views verbally, rather than through violence or other actions.

    Our spirited political discourse, complete with name-calling, vilification—and, yes, violent imagery—is a good thing. Better that angry people unload their fury in public than let it fester and turn septic in private. The wicked direction the American debate often takes is not a sign of danger but of freedom. And I'll punch out the lights of anybody who tries to take it away from me.

    Conservative blogger Ed Morrissey at Hot Air also wrote of what he saw as a slippery slope if any type of political discourse, violent or otherwise, is discouraged.

    Already we have at least one member of Congress proposing to outlaw the use of crosshair symbols in political advertisements, a bill that should run afoul of the new House rule to cite constitutional authority for any new legislation. It also would create the ironic situation where the government could create a prior restraint on political speech by banning the use of crosshairs or bullseyes when the plain meaning isn’t violence, but where their use on actual shooting targets would still be allowed. What’s next, the banning of dart boards?

    But Steve Benen, the liberal blogger at the Washington Monthly, who has been critical of overheated rhetoric in politics, said that he doesn't advocate legal limits on speech, just simply the cooling of particularly inflammatory speech.

    I'd like to see conservatives turn down the temperature on some of their more extreme rhetoric, but it's never occurred to me to call for legal restrictions on anyone's speech...

    ...Perhaps the single most outrageous form of political speech I can think of in recent history was Sharron Angle's talk of 'Second-Amendment remedies.' All kinds of people said Angle's comments were disgusting, but did anyone suggest for a moment she shouldn't have been allowed to say it? Shafer fears a slippery slope -- first we urge people to show restraint, and the next thing you know, the First Amendment is under attack. These fears seem wholly unnecessary -- the point is about unenforced societal expectations and basic political norms. Nothing more.

    Daily Kos' Barbara Morrill maintained that Jared Lee Loughner's shooting spree was affected, to some degree, by Republicans' use of violent rhetoric, despite proof that Loughner was influenced by any organized political group or ideology.

    Since the election of Barack Obama, the right, both elected Republicans and their minions in the media, have pounded the non-stop drumbeat that Obama/Democrats/liberals want to destroy the country, they want to kill your grandmother, they're shredding the Constitution, they're terrorist sympathizers, they're going to take away your guns, that they're enemies of humanity, that the government is the enemy ...

    And that, as much as the obvious examples of violent rhetoric, can appeal to the extremist, the mentally unstable, or the 'lone nut,' to act. And last Saturday, one of them did.

    Mistermix at Balloon Juice responded to a New York Times op-ed by the conservative columnist Ross Douthat in which Douthat wrote:

    If overheated rhetoric and martial imagery really led inexorably to murder, then both parties would belong in the dock. (It took conservative bloggers about five minutes to come up with Democratic campaign materials that employed targets and crosshairs against Republican politicians.) When our politicians and media loudmouths act like fools and zealots, they should be held responsible for being fools and zealots. They shouldn’t be held responsible for the darkness that always waits to swallow up the unstable and the lost.

    Mistermix's response:

    The final fallacy in these two paragraphs is the straw man that people are holding Republicans responsible for the actions of the killer in Tucson. No, they aren’t. We’re saying that the whole climate of the past couple of years stinks, and that it’s time to tone it down.

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    The knee-jerk reaction from the left, seeking to exploit this tragedy for political gain, was and is beneath contempt.

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  • 4
    Jan
    2011
    5:29pm, EST

    Blog Buzz: Liberals mixed on Daley

    A few liberal bloggers made their thoughts known on President Obama's potential appointment of Bill Daley as his next chief of staff.

    "Some blogs are going to explode," predicted Balloon Juice's mistermix, although he wonders more about his Washington D.C. credentials than his past resume.

    Putting aside his ideology, which I assume would take a back seat to Obama’s goals, I wonder about the wisdom of appointing a CoS who has slight acquaintance with Congress, since wrestling with Congress is going to be the main job of most of the White House apparatus.

    At Daily Kos, Joan McCarter quoted a New York Times article about liberals' reaction to Daley: "A decision to bring Mr. Daley into the heart of the administration could further annoy Mr. Obama’s liberal base, who frequently accused [Rahm] Emanuel of encouraging the president to compromise on liberal principles to achieve legislative goals."

    Yes, it would. Because, a) investment bankers really just haven't had enough influence in our country's governance in the last decade; and b) anyone who thinks health insurance reform modeled on Mitt Romney's Massachussetts plan and negotiated with every major player in the healthcare industry is a liberal overreach might just be a tad out of touch with the Democratic base. And the majority of Democratic law-makers. And the large chunk of Americans who basically support the health insurance reform bill and think it wasn't liberal enough.

    Later in the day, McCarter updates her post to reflect a quote from an April Wall Street Journal article that said Daley, then an executive at J.P. Morgan, told then-Chief of Staff Emanuel that his boss, Jamie Dimon, did not believe a new consumer financial-protection agency was necessary because he believed "sufficient consumer safeguards were already on the books."

    McCarter responded:

    This escalates Daley to beyond mere hippie-punching. It makes Obama look like some kind of masochist--this guy has engaged in Obama-punching, attacking two of the keystone efforts in the first two years of his administration. Strange.

    The left-leaning Huffington Post, who originally brought up the Wall Street Journal article, observed:

    It's conceivable that Daley was merely passing along JP Morgan header Jamie Dimon's beliefs. Not his own.

    That said, the potential appointment of someone who was sour on the major elements of the president's domestic legislation to the top-ranking presidential position creates some uncomfortable optics. So too does Daley's position, from 2005 through 2007, as a co-chair of the Chamber of Commerce's "Commission on the Regulation of Capital Markets in the 21st Century" -- a committee that played a role lobbying on derivatives regulation and consumer protections -- as well as the fact that JPMorgan Chase, where he served as an executive, had a $30 billion subprime mortgage business.

    The administration, in the end, may feel like Daley's expertise as a manager and his close ties to Wall Street are assets too valuable to let go. But the questions about policy frictions and the negative press that an appointment will engender seem likely to compete with, if not outnumber, the positive stories about Daley's capacity for the job.

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    I always find the chatter humerous. When did a selection of any person for any job make everyone happy? I disagree, the main function of the Chief of Staff is to coordinate the efforts of the others, to get everyone on the same page, to set priorities and establish a chain of command within the WH.

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    Dec
    2010
    4:01pm, EST

    Blog Buzz: The Barbour backlash

    Bloggers on the left and right responded to Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour’s statement today walking back his comments on the Civil Rights era.

    NRO’s Jim Geraghty linked back to a 1982 New York Times article that quoted Barbour making a racially-charged joke:

    But the racial sensitivity at Barbour headquarters was suggested by an exchange between the candidate and an aide who complained that there would be ''coons'' at a campaign stop at the state fair. Embarrassed that a reporter heard this, Mr. Barbour warned that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks.

    Geraghty considered Barbour’s recent comments in the Weekly Standard along with the “watermelon” statement, as well as several other comments made throughout his career.

    Will this settle the issue? Perhaps it ought to, at least for the holiday season, and until Barbour makes a decision on a presidential bid.

    But if Barbour runs, we will hear a great deal about the word "watermelon" and how it was used and why. He and his campaign had better be ready to handle the inevitable questions, fair and unfair, and predictable media firestorm. No presidential candidate wants to deal with this sort of thing when there are major, pressing issues facing the nation that they would rather discuss. But then again, most presidential candidates aren't quoted using the term in the New York Times.

    On the liberal end, Daily Kos’ Joan McCarter noted that bloggers on the right seem to have dialed back their own defense of Barbour, suggesting that his comments may be enough to prevent mainstream Republicans from gathering behind a Barbour presidential bid.

    Oh, right. African Americans were persecuted (but that was then, right? Mississippi is a bastion of equality, now). He almost forgot that part in his rewriting the history of Yazoo City in the 1950s. Will it wipe away Barbour's long history of glorifying the South's racist past? Probably not. Judging by how the Right ended up turning on him, and turning fast, they're apparently not ready for such blatant racism becoming the face of the GOP. They prefer a much quieter dog whistle.

    Balloon Juice’s John Cole is “stunned” by the following Barbour commnent:

    In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said.

    Wrote Cole:

    Everyone seems to be focusing on the Citizen Council and the other race hate groups of the day, but for me, but when I hear him say it wasn’t that bad, I just can’t get past wanting to scream “BECAUSE YOU’RE F***ING WHITE, A**HOLE.”

    Sweet jeebus. The Holocaust wasn’t that bad for Hitler, either. Until the very end.

    The Washington Monthly’s Steve Benen said the statement smelled purely of damage control, as the remarks were “wholly at odds with what he told the Weekly Standard, which, as a prominent Republican magazine, doesn't have any reason to misquote him or twist his words out of context.”

    The second is that Barbour's chief spokesperson, hoping to defend his boss, took a slightly different line than the governor did yesterday. This makes today's statement look more like spin and crisis management than a sincere clarification.

    And finally, let's also not forget that the published remarks became so instantly inflammatory this week precisely because of Barbour's atrocious record on racial issues. Today's statement more or less makes the right points, but it's not as if the governor has earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to diversity and respect for minority groups.

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    I don't know Mr. Barbour so I don't know what is in his heart, but these statements in 2010 do not speak to his "genius" as touted by those on the right who think he is presidential material. Civil Rights activists like Goodman, Chaney ,Schwerner and Medgar Evers fought and died in Missisippi for  …

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  • 10
    Dec
    2010
    2:31pm, EST

    Blog Buzz: Not exactly 'hail to the chief'

    Just in time for the holidays, there's another expletive-driven episode making the rounds on the blogosphere after an unnamed Democratic congressman expressed his distaste at the tax cut deal President Obama forged with Republicans.

    At the conservative NRO, Jim Geraghty's take:

    Yelling “you lie” earned [Rep. Joe] Wilson a deserved rebuke; we’ll see if dropping the F-bomb in reference to the president in a meeting of several hundred people earns any serious consequence for this unnamed lawmaker. My fear is no. Sure, it was a semi-private meeting, and I’m sure this isn’t the first F-bomb to be dropped on Capitol Hill — I’m sure we all remember the much-discussed exchange between former vice president Dick Cheney and Sen. Patrick Leahy. But this feels different, like another line has been crossed in standards of public behavior. Wasn’t any Democrat in that room offended by those words? Didn’t anybody object?

    Once you start marinating in this nastiness, it starts to seep into how you think and speak, and perhaps you can’t turn it off. It is now defining the Left. Michael Moore. Bill Maher. Joy Behar. It didn’t just stay in the grassroots and celebrities; it came to the halls of Congress with Alan Grayson.

    *******************
    And now, finally, it comes full circle. Now they’re sneering at Obama. Their guy. The guy whom they adored, perhaps as much as any party has ever adored its leader, in 2007 and 2008. Now they say, “[F-word] him.”

    Hey, pal, that’s the President of the United States. Show some respect.

    (How did it come to the point where we have to be the ones to demand that?)

    NRO's Jonah Goldberg compared the outburst to the "You Lie," episode, noting that some suggested Wilson's exclamation was racially motivated.

    When Rep. Joe Wilson yelled “you lie!” — which he most certainly should not have done, everyone was convinced that racism was the only explanation. But when a Democrat shouts, admittedly in a different forum, F*** the president, no such speculation arises. That’s fine, I’m fairly sure that racism isn’t the culprit here. But I’m also sure that if this was a story about a Republican, Maureen Dowd and Frank Rich would bang out several columns insisting that racism told the whole story and Keith Olbermann would be busting out his Field Guide to North American Klansmen. Of course, Olbie’s now so mad at the president, he must be wondering if he’s a racist.

    Conservative RedState blogger Erick Erickson tweeted, "I bet the Dem who said 'F--- the President' today supported censure of Joe Wilson for saying 'you lie.'"

    In a later blog post, Erickson set the scene, demonstrating that despite Demcorats' unhappiness with the compromise, "the deal must now die."

    In a rowdy meeting in which one Democratic Congressman said loudly 'F— the President,' the House Democrats turned Nancy Reagan and just said no.

    On the left, Balloon Juice's John Cole simply called his post "Demoralized."

    I don’t think I’ve ever been as demoralized, cynical, and disgusted with politics as I am right now. The whole thing just makes me sick to my stomach. I really can not believe that we have a major party that is behaving the way the Republicans are, and even worse, I can’t believe they are being rewarded for this behavior. They were rewarded at the polls, the Democrats are in disarray, and the country is sort of just stalled. Nothing meaningful can be accomplished, and the Republicans and the media don’t care.

    I’ve scanned the news for something interesting and uplifting to write about, and every headline I see just depresses me and makes me want to go back to bed or smash my computer and tv. And the worst thing is I don’t see anything changing. This is a structural problem, with the rich, the corporate masters, the media, and the money party pulling the strings. I’m not the sharpest tack, but I try to at least pay attention, and I find it hard to attain the information I need to make a good decision. I’m waffling back and forth on the tax deal because there really is nowhere to get a critical, unvarnished look at things. If I’m having this much trouble, how are other people who aren’t obsessed with things working these issues out.

    And that is when I get more depressed. They probably aren’t. They’re just voting for their team. Sarah Palin shoots animals and hates the lieberals! One of us!

    F--k it.

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    We're hearing on the radio today tons of complaints about the Democratic Party and how they have continually boxed President Obama in. Over and over I keep hearing - You cannot trust the Democratic Party. And this is being said by Democrats. One host said that the reason President Obama picked Tim G …

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  • 7
    Dec
    2010
    12:29pm, EST

    Blog Buzz: Tax cut reaction, day 2

    Reflecting on the White House's tax cut proposal released last night, some liberal bloggers seemed to come around to the deal as an acceptable compromise. Conservative bloggers weren't thrilled with some of the deal's outcomes either, but overall seemed satisfied, not to mention heartened at the prospect of renewing the "raising taxes" debate again in two years.

    The Washington Monthly's Steve Benen called the deal "not that bad."

    The president secured a 13-month extension of aid for the long-term unemployed, reportedly his top priority. The deal also includes a reduction in the Social Security payroll tax, which will give workers a boost in their paychecks; an expanded earned-income tax credit; the continuation of a college-tuition tax credit; and new opportunities for businesses to write off the cost of some equipment purchases.

    Obama was able to secure help for the middle class and the unemployed; Republicans were able to keep breaks for the wealthy. In other words, both sides got to fight for their natural constituencies.

    ...

    All things being equal, I suspected the deal to be worse. Call that the soft bigotry of low expectations if you will, but I'm actually feeling slightly relieved.

    Balloon Juice's E.D. Kain also saw the agreement as necessary, but not devoid of political benefit if the president can use it to flaunt his fiscal credentials in two years.

    This was smart politics from Obama even if it does mean he’ll have to fend off attacks from within his own party. Extending the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans may be a bitter pill to swallow for many progressives, but it’s not that high of a price to pay for a serious shot of stimulus. I would actually like to see more stimulus in the form of direct payments to middle and low income Americans, followed by some long-term structural and tax reforms to shore up the long term deficit. But deficits, while important for our future, are a ways down the list during a recession. First comes economic recovery, then comes whatever necessary cuts and tax reforms necessary to get our fiscal ship in order.

    Conservative blogger Francis Cianfrocca, writing at Red State, appeared largely satisfied with the proposal's outcome even if he believed the tax-cutting measures did not go far enough.

    Political calculus: do not be surprised if this ends up playing as a win for Obama. He’s going to say that he’s really a moderate leader capable of making the compromises that it takes to govern. My guess is that by giving us so much of what we wanted, he strengthens his political position, not the reverse.

    On the economic effects: YES. Removing the uncertainty surrounding tax rates will make a lot of businesspeople feel more confident about planning for growth and hiring. It doesn’t remove the fundamental drag on business performance in the US, which is poor final demand, but it helps.

    NRO's Jim Geraghty listed all the items on which Obama has not made progress, in a post titled "The 2008 Obama Would Denounce the 2010 Obama."

    The liberal outrage over the tax deal is warranted. They, too, are learning that all of Obama’s statements come with expiration dates, and that they labored, long and hard, throughout 2007 and 2008 to elect a man who will, in the end, ratify most of President Bush’s policy choices.

    ...

    Domestically, there will be no Card Check. There will be no cap-and-trade. There will be no amnesty, no DREAM act. The man who denounced Bush’s recess appointments now uses the tool regularly. Bill language isn’t posted online for five days before signed into law. NAFTA will not be renegotiated; new trade deals with countries like South Korea are signed instead. No “windfall profit tax” will be enacted. He has frozen federal workers’ pay. His deficit commission rejected a VAT and proposed a slew of spending cuts that liberals find unacceptable.

    Obamacare? The GOP is hell-bent on repealing it. If Obama loses in 2012, it’s gone.

    But hey, liberals, cheer up. You got the Lilly Ledbetter Pay Act.

    Hot Air's Ed Morrissey wrote that one boon for Republicans would be their ability to set up the 2012 elections "as a debate on pending across-the-board tax hikes," and that none of the Democratic proposals in the deal will improve the economy to such dramatic effect that Democrats will reap political benefits.

    The extension of unemployment benefits will expire in the 2012 primaries, which will create another debate on the wisdom of continued government interventions — but also will keep unemployment higher for longer, which won’t help Obama in 2012. The estate tax only goes up to 35% after the first $5 million, rather than 55% after the first $3.5 million, as Democrats demanded (and would have gotten had they bothered to deal with it in 2009 rather than wait until now). The payroll tax holiday and the tax rate extensions may help a little in economic growth, but tax rate consistency only gets us a little further down the road and won’t be a game changer. (Increases, though, would have been disastrous.)

    Mostly, though, the deal and the Democratic furor over it shows that the Republicans came to lead and get things accomplished, not just act as obstructionists for the next two years. That will add considerable credibility to the GOP from the independents who flocked to Republicans in this past midterm cycle. That’s a good, not great, deal for the Republicans in an environment where they have limited bargaining power. If Democrats end up sabotaging this deal in Congress, well, so much the better. They will become the obstructionists instead, and will have made the argument for their own oblivion in the next election.

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