Rand Paul is credible. Recently he just grabbed all spotlight to stage a filibuster that is ninth longest in senate history. A star is rising inside the GOP. Paul has wanted to cut defense, making him even more credible and refreshing.

After Obama secured his second term, I think a return to GOP is not a bad thing, but the GOP has to be up to the task. After all, the voters will decide if they want another Martin Van Buren in 2016.

But those who won straw poll might turn out to be strawman, such as Ron Paul, Rich Perry, and Herman Cain in 2011 and 2012.

What was this? a hillbilly contest?

Speaking of HillBillies...

How many hillbillies does it take to eat a 'possum?
Two. One to eat, and one to watch for cars.

He'd have my vote...if I were voting for straw.

My avatar was an unfunny idiot today ... other idiots-

Brent Bozell who called all Republicans of any stature useless.

Carlie Fiorina, the former queen of HP who fired 10,000 workers by off-shoring their jobs rambled on about caring for the small business folks not one of whom she knows.

Rand Paul won the much-hyped CPAC straw poll for what? To be what?

Rand Paul? Who was named after Ayn Rand, an "only the strong survive" communist, atheist. If that is what the Republican party has become then by way of the Whigs they will go.

DocHolliday, Amen to your posts above. By the way, great Avatar, from Tombstone (it looks like you've been on the MLB sites as well if I recollect correctly) Has "conservative" become synonymous with mouth breathing brain dead, I used to support "conservative", but not the kind in today's GOP/TP world. What happened to the ideology of Eisenhower, Goldwater and even Reagan, who cared about the Middle Class, not reducing the very wealthy's tax bill by $400K, which they would piss away on a Monte Carlo gambling spree, while the Middle Class was trying to figure how to pay the medical and other bills.

Boy, talk about the boobie prize, there were nothing but boobs both voting and getting votes.

CPAC is a joke. It's a political version of Hollywood Squares.

A. Friend-3401376

HEY LIBTARDS, We are tired of you giving you fuking approval for our candidates (ie.e John McCain, Mitt Romney). How about we will pick our own candidates and you go fuk yourselves.

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.....Great 6th grade schoolyard comment, now come back when (if) you grow up.

A.Friend, What does the "A" stand for? My guess would be asswhole.

A friend, not enough of even your own approved of either McCain, or Romney, here is a hint. Thats why you lost, not enough approved of the devil to take us to hell. More approved of Obama to get us out of the recession you caused. You lost, and you will lose again because not enough people approve of you telling us to "How about we will pick our own candidates and you go fuk yourselves" You really need to deep into a mirror and say stuff like that.

NorthstarDFL

Hey fellow Minnesotan, haven't seen you on here for a while.

Who won Minnesota on the GOP side? Ron Paul had almost all the delegates while butt goo got the most votes. But the libertarians took over a huge chunk of the roles going into the future, as well as did they in many other states. If the GOP is to survive, they better understand that libertarian philosophy is how they will do it. It is what they used to be. It is what the founders were. It is what we should agree to. Fiscally responsible, socially liberal, driven by the principles of the Constitution.

I know I will be lambasted for this comment, but consider this. Being fiscally responsible is a mainstay of conservatives. Being socially liberal is a mainstay of the Democrats. And the Constitution is what is supposed to bind us together as a nation. "Libertarian" needs to quit being used as a swear word, because it is the ultimate in crossing party lines that have deadlocked us for decades.

We, in MN elected Jesse Ventura because we were willing to try anything to make our lives and government better. And while everything did not end up a success, at least we tried to make a change to the status quo.

Blackcatwhitecat, great comment about Fiorina, she is very self-possessed and in to herself, for someone who got rejected at AT&T and failed miserably at HP. But if you get spots on Fox News, well, whatever strokes your ego (and any other part of you).

Can things get anymore bizarre? His namesake Ayn is laughing from the grave. The strawman from KY will be missed the most as the GOP tosses the TP.

Is CPAC the political equivalent of American Idol? I mean, you get a bunch of people who thing they have talent, but they really don't.

Rand Paul. CPAC has chosen the runner up in the 2016 Presidential election.

"...interesting to have a senator credited for stalling needed bills in congress just so he could make a political speach....."a filibuster" .... and this is in front of a congress that has gotten nothing done for this nation at all for 4 years..now starting on year 5..still saying no..even though it was their "no" that helped keep them from getting the whitehouse. These people were elected to work for the country as a whole..not the wealthy few who have had their way in the republican party for the past years.

Anabannana...Are you sure you know who Ayn Rand is?...Ever read her works, and her basic ideas of the individual and his/her position in the state? Ayn Rand a communist... is like President Obama being the head of the Tea Party.

"Rand Paul wins CPAC straw poll; Rubio close second"

And a snore of approval was heard across the nation.

After selecting McCain & Palin, and Romney & Ryan to carry their Party's banner in the last two Presidential Elections, if the GOP nominates a certifiable whackadoodle the likes of Rand Paul in 2016 the White House and both Houses of the US Congress will be safely controlled by the Democratic Party for the next two generations or longer while America awaits the eventual formation of an actually credible 2nd Party.

It is hard to understand how "leaders" of the Republican Party fail to recognize what is obvious to passive onlookers; that the "accelerating forward motion" they believe they are experiencing is actually their party circling the drain, and getting ever closer to the event horizon of disappearing down the waste pipe of American History.

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

You crack me up!! Everything you said is the truth and I loved it...especially the word "whackadoodle', it fits perfectly.

This is not an "Indicator" that Rand Paul will be a Presidential Candidate, but he did have the Courage to Filibuster for 13 hrs---who else would have done that?---He is a true Politician, who follows the Constitution. He is very different in his views than his own father, Ron Paul----

The Republican party is changing--yes, changing---"In with the new, out with the Old"; it is very exciting---Karl Rove is now a Dinosaur for the Republicans, and so is Mitch McConnell.

They have to accept/or change their thoughts re: Abortion rights, Feminism, Gay Marriage, Gay Partners, Gays in the Military, future issues or they will be out with the dust. Republicans truly want to win---young new Leaders, only. There are many appealing candidates.

John,

Good to see you too.

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Yes, the libertarians who followed Ron Paul did know how to work the caucus system and straw polls in the last election cycle.

I think they should get out of the dead carcass that is the GOP and run their candidates in the Libertarian party or even the Independence Party .

Jesse ran as an Independent candidate and did indeed win.

Keep nominating the Tea Party psycho scum Republicants and you'll keep losing elections. Works for me

NorthstarDFL

And Happy St Patricks to you as well. Have one for me, not that I need the help. Irish myself.

I will wholeheartedly agree that carrying the stigma of GOP around will hurt, and that is like buying a company that has bad brand recognition. Ron Paul tore the GOP apart from the inside and many of his followers are in key positions around the country because of it. I think they are actually doing a hostile takeover. But taking it over with all infrastructure intact is easier and more beneficial that going to third party and getting 1% of the vote.

Time will tell.

What's funny about Jesse is that I actually thought he did a pretty good job, just couldn't take the negative criticism. Hell of a lot better than Dayton IMHO

CPAC - Crazy People Acting Crazier. And for all of you rwnj trolls who think we're scared, guess again. This is the biggest laughfest since Comedy Central's Jokeapalooza. They should've held this at the Second City theatre.

To paraphrase Jim Mora's infamous rant...

"Principles?!?!? You're talking about principles? Can't even win an election,and you're talking principles?!?!?"

What a bloody shame that the "Saturday Night Live" cast had this week off. Oh, the comedy sketch they could have performed this week, by simply reading verbatim the speeches delivered this week at CPAC by this veritable Conga Line of Whackadoodles and sycophants.

Let's see.

A republicon ticket of Rand Paul and...Scott Walker???

It must be great to be a republicon these days. Their future looks so bright.

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The crazy Rand Paul, the vapid Marco Rubio, or the disgusting Rick Santorum? Hope Republicans like losing presidential elections, but that's all they have to look forward too if that's the best they can offer. At least they have their principles, though. Especially the one where they willingly let political and media scam artists fleece them by pretending to stand for a cause when all they really stand for is making a profit off the political system without actually doing any work.

Love Ben Carson! He must be a racist just like all conservatives, right? Oh, wait a minute, he's black and came from poverty and succeeded in life. Oh no, that defies all liberal logic. Watch Biden's head explode.

This was not a weekend of self-reflection for conservatives. It was one of standing by principles, and no one more represents standing by principles than Paul.

Principles.

A virtue unknown to Liberals/Progressives, and as such will be their demise.

Liberals don't accept principles, because they lack morals, as such they prefer ideology. Ineffectual and unsustainable ideologies. Their irrational belief in social and economic justice is a primary example of their delusion. Their Jim Jones Kool-Aid infatuation with the collective exposes their simple-mindedness and lack of self-respect.

As a Libertarian, Rand Paul promotes many Conservative and TEA Party beliefs. Constitutionally limited government, federalism, fiscal responsibility, free-market principles and rejection of more taxes for our criminal government are core principles shared by all three groups. Responsibility rather than servility to a monolithic bureaucracy is the hallmark of these groups. Any pedestrian ideologue can be indoctrinated into collectivism as it doesn't require any real effort or ambition, just compliance.

The young leadership of Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, all budding stars with a real vision for our great Republic. Their fresh ideas and enthusiasm are already spreading through the electorate. As real Americans see the incredible failure of the social experiment called Barrack Hussein, the true fundamental transformation of America can begin. Never-ending campaigning, demonization of success and mismanagement have been the foundation of Barrack Husseins governance. Support of Pro-Life, term limits, a balanced budget amendment, Read the Bills Act, cutting government spending, lower taxes and his immigration policy create a solid platform. Opposition to the Campaign Reform Act, the Patriot Act, warrantless searches and his recent stand against extrajudicial killing of Americans should appeal to a large part of the electorate.

Principles are fundamental truths, laws, doctrines or a motivating force. These have been summarily stripped from many Americans, especially Liberals/Progressives. The principles of our Constitution, what a Republic is, social, moral and cultural relevance are essential to a persons character and serves as the foundation for our behavior individually with others. Responsibility, compassion, self-esteem and ambition create a vibrant society built on commerce and prosperity.

Regardless of the candidate, these are the principles we need to promote and eliminate the Liberal/Progressive nonsense that has never worked before other than in the faculty-lounge of ideologues who have never achieved anything of significance.

Symbolism over substance must be eliminated and proven principles with successful outcomes supported.

Rand Paul would make a good president. But I think before the weekend is over the new political arm of Obama's Chicago thugs, will be slinging mud on all the Sunday talk shows.

Hmmm... I am a "Goldwater Republican" meaning a moderate with conservative fiscal goals. I believe that any adult male who makes the choice to wear his hair in a rat's nest configuration, cannot be taken seriously about anything. The voters of KY made a big mistake by electing this embarrassing nit-wit.

If nearly 50% of the CPAC attendees voted for Paul and Rubio, it means one thing. The Republican Party is mired in a swamp of deep doo-doo.

Furthermore, Mr. Santorum is a joke. If the GOP entertains Santorum 's crude and draconian beliefs, whoever the Democrats pick will win.

The Republican Party, (The GOP - meaning the Grand Old Party), MUST wake up and realize that they must represent and care about all of the people - not just the conservatives and not just the wealthy.

The GOP must realize the value of teamwork in order to achieve goals. Like it or not, we are all in this mess together. The silliness and incompetence of the U.S. Congress is responsible for this mess. We, the people, elect the members of congress.

The late cartoonist, Walt Kelly, depicted it best on Earth Day in 1973, when Pogo Possum said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."

Pigotry, Im stunned to see your first post , was your account hacked? Rand Paul is not only very credible he is the ONLY canidate, left or right that can get this country going into the right direction. if you are a american citizen how can you not like Rand? Less government intrusion, spending, civil liberties, protectionist of constitution. RAND PAUL 2016!!!!!!!!! Lets start to reverse the damage of the last 50 years of bad policy!!

The antiwar.com articles written by Jason Raimuno (sp) in March regarding Rand Paul's stance on the filibuster are insightful, nonpartisan, lengthy clarification of the great degree Paul's actions took to positively impact the relationship between American citizens and our government. I also just finished reading Government Bullies, by Rand Paul. It entails incredibly outrageous accounts of contemporary Americans who have been horribly mistreated and imprisoned and subjected to manifestly illegal actions against them by the overreach of our government. Another good read for people whose interests lie in understanding what the breadth of the federal government - through the ill-actions of the agency of the EPA - has proven it is capable of and what necessitates our participation in the process of placing the government back under the control of the People. I applaud Rand Paul. I applaud the young people enthralled with what it means to regain a love for the foundations of freedom and the embracing of every American citizen as individually valuable for their differences and the creative and sustantive ways in which they can mend a divided nation.

Intereresting. His filibuster included people from both parties. Then was attacked by both parties. Maybe we need somebody like that. Not a typical Rep that wants to cut some on defense and cut back/stop a lot of money we are sending to countries that hate us. He doesn't "tow the party line".

Rand Paul as a President???? OMH! Still laughing! He's just too damn goofy looking and sounding for anyone to get behind him! Enjoy the moment!

Robert in Oregon ...

What a bloody shame that the "Saturday Night Live" cast had this week off.

NO Kidding!

Dr. Ben Carson.

Finally, the GOP are getting logical people out there who are not afraid to confront the real issues--and the President of the US--Obama. Republicans tend to hide under rocks when the rocks are falling down---terrible Judgment and Decision making from the US Government--always backtracking their lies, and blaming other people---when the blame goes straight to the Top---Yes, indeed.

He doesn't like it when he is "found" out---lying to the American People--Transparency has never been better--he should take his promises back as well. "O".

Let's be clear. Rand Paul will NEVER be POTUS under ANY circumstance. He is not even slightly credible nor is he intelligent enough to shine my shoe. He is just another asswipe like his father.

Truth, why is he not credible or smart? I wouldn't think stupid people could graduate duke university of medicine.

TruthbeTold61 or is it 69, please post your credentials that would make you an expert on someones intelligence, I will be waiting for that answer eh little man. I bet truth has suddenly got lockjaw like most big mouth liberals.

Republican Party: Damn the torpedoes, ahead full speed.

These guys may win among the wingnuts, but in a general election?

Hillary 2016

Jim Spence....people like you are the real problem, not liberals/progressives. You think only you have the answers....that only you know what is best for this country and everybody else is an idiot. If that were true, then those extremists that you mentioned, Rubio, Paul, Walker, etc, would have made a much bigger impact than they have thus far. The reason is not because liberals 'just don't get it', but because extremists are hugely bad for the country regardless of which direction they lean. Not everybody is rich, not everybody is poor, not everybody is black, not everybody is white, not everybody is straight, and not everybody is gay. But, in all those cases, many people are. One stupid ideology won't work across the board as you are proposing. The right needs to come more to the center in order to survive the demographics of today's society....hopefully, they never will and will continue to get swamped at the major elections. Religion, as a cult, is dying as well, because many young people in this country are realizing that religious ferver is the root of all the stupid extremism stemming from the idiotic policies coming from the mouths of the nutjobs on the right. So....keep up with your 'principles'....that will spell the end of your lunatic fringe party and keep the more open-minded liberal policies in the forefront.

For the Liberals to think that CPAC means nothing, it sure did manage to get their knickers in a knot!

Funny, Funny, Funny!

Marchant

Dr. Ben Carson.

Finally, the GOP are getting logical people out there who are not afraid to confront the real issues--and the President of the US--Obama. Republicans tend to hide under rocks when the rocks are falling down---terrible Judgment and Decision making from the US Government--always backtracking their lies, and blaming other people---when the blame goes straight to the Top---Yes, indeed.

He doesn't like it when he is "found" out---lying to the American People--Transparency has never been better--he should take his promises back as well. "O".

Marchant,

LOL,

Dr Carson is brilliant with his hands; but he doesn't have a functional left brain. You know the section responsible for thinking.

Rote procedures with right-brain dominance is why he'll be a fantastic right wing lap dog!

Rand Paul won the straw poll because of his 13 hour filibuster. The OTHER IDIOTS at the CPAC were impressed because he wasted 13 hours trying to obstruct something that was going to pass anyway..... John McCain and company were proud.

Big ATC:

Funny. You are Correct!! Dr. Ron Paul, nor Rand Paul can't be that stupid. Ron Paul is a Doctor. His son, Rand Paul is also a Physician graduating from Duke University; excellent Medical School---

What does Truthbetold know about anything. Name calling is good. What areTbT's Educational Accomplishments, or Profession!

The Paul's have some good ideas. I am very much in favor of closing all of our foreign bases and bringing our Young People home. There is no reason to be in the Middle East. But the Paul's have some very unrealistic and impractical things they want to do that make them fringe candidates. It is too bad because it taints some of the fine things they advocate.

tell yah what "friend" - you can PICK your candidate
You can pick your NOSE - BUT you can't pick your candidate's NOSE
moreover, you can't MAKE ME VOTE FOR A REICHWINGNUTRELIGIONAZI RETHUG

Rand Paul....Ahhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahha.........HA!

JimSpence

This was not a weekend of self-reflection for conservatives. It was one of standing by principles, and no one more represents standing by principles than Paul.

Principles.

A virtue unknown to Liberals/Progressives, and as such will be their demise.

Yet another spout of propaganda from yet another right-wing extremist.

Liberals don't accept principles, because they lack morals, as such they prefer ideology. Ineffectual and unsustainable ideologies. Their irrational belief in social and economic justice is a primary example of their delusion. Their Jim Jones Kool-Aid infatuation with the collective exposes their simple-mindedness and lack of self-respect.

Alright, it takes to tango, so let's dance. Liberals do accept principals; hell, we HAVE principles. Ideology is merely the vast array of principles that people adhere to. The very concept of liberalism is progress, in both the social and the economic sphere. We do not accept the idea that some people can be mistreated, and that some people can control the livelihood of others. We do not accept the status quo for the sham that it is; we shall march forward so that all men and women can claim their "inalienable rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." That is why we shall never agree with the backward-minded delusion that is your precious modern conservatism.

As a Libertarian, Rand Paul promotes many Conservative and TEA Party beliefs. Constitutionally limited government, federalism, fiscal responsibility, free-market principles and rejection of more taxes for our criminal government are core principles shared by all three groups. Responsibility rather than servility to a monolithic bureaucracy is the hallmark of these groups. Any pedestrian ideologue can be indoctrinated into collectivism as it doesn't require any real effort or ambition, just compliance.

You right-wingers are nothing but a bunch of static ideologues. You think that the Constitution freezes our society in the 18th century and that the Founders abhorred the very idea of liberalism, even though they were (surprise surprise) liberals themselves, seeking change from the conservative status quo of mercantile imperialism and absolute monarchies. You claim that the free markets will make our nation the pride of the earth, and yet it reduced us to the laughingstock of modern civilization. It sent millions of Americans to the unemployment office and millions more below the poverty line. You feel that the individual is the most important part of society, and that his whims overpower any other concern. I do not oppose the importance of the individual; he is a major part of our society. And yet the measure of an individual's greatness is his ability to put aside his interests for that of society; he need not abandon his liberty, but merely admit that at least sometimes, the welfare of the many are more important than the whims of the few.

The young leadership of Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, all budding stars with a real vision for our great Republic. Their fresh ideas and enthusiasm are already spreading through the electorate. As real Americans see the incredible failure of the social experiment called Barrack Hussein, the true fundamental transformation of America can begin. Never-ending campaigning, demonization of success and mismanagement have been the foundation of Barrack Husseins governance.

Those so-called "budding stars" are nothing more than puppets for those who seek to dominate our society. They are nothing more than figureheads for the conservatives who want to roll back all vestiges of the New Deal, including Social Security. They want nothing more than to return this country to the "Golden Era" before Progressivism, even though that means condemning a third of America to the poorhouse and creating the biggest wealth-transferring Ponzi scheme in the history of modern civilization. So go ahead; sing the praises of conservatism. Just realize that you are nothing more than a front for a truly fascist movement in the United States.

Support of Pro-Life, term limits, a balanced budget amendment, Read the Bills Act, cutting government spending, lower taxes and his immigration policy create a solid platform. Opposition to the Campaign Reform Act, the Patriot Act, warrantless searches and his recent stand against extrajudicial killing of Americans should appeal to a large part of the electorate.

What you fail to admit is that the American people have rejected your ridiculous ideology. They may oppose warrantless searches and the Patriot Act (as do I), they oppose the idea that the free market always knows best (as this recession proves to be a myth), that social injustice is acceptable, and that the only good government is one that can be "drowned in a bathtub." Accept it; the American people are done with Reaganomics, and they are done with modern conservatism.

Principles are fundamental truths, laws, doctrines or a motivating force. These have been summarily stripped from many Americans, especially Liberals/Progressives. The principles of our Constitution, what a Republic is, social, moral and cultural relevance are essential to a persons character and serves as the foundation for our behavior individually with others. Responsibility, compassion, self-esteem and ambition create a vibrant society built on commerce and prosperity.

You are merely another figurehead, supposedly clothed in the aura of our Constitution but merely fed the same idiotic principles that led to this recession. The American people were not "stripped" of their character by Liberals and Progressives; they evolved into who they are know, a semi-secular, semi-religious society that is tolerant of minorities and respects capitalist and private initiative while acknowledging it's flaws and abuses. You are just another hapless ideologue pursuing a purist and dogmatic philosophy.

Regardless of the candidate, these are the principles we need to promote and eliminate the Liberal/Progressive nonsense that has never worked before other than in the faculty-lounge of ideologues who have never achieved anything of significance.

So come at us; try and denounce our ideas in front of the American people. Let America decide who we should put our undying faith and respect in: the socially restrictive and discriminating religious extremists and the speculative and fascist financial elite; or the undeniable strength and resolve of We the People, the ordinary worker, and our reliance on reason, personal belief, and the belief that all men and women are create equal. And in doing so, liberalism and progressivism will eventually transcend the dogmatically-narrow confines of modern fascist conservatism. See you on the ideological battlefields, my misguided fascist figurehead.

@ Annabannana

Ayn Rand - Rand advocated reason as the only means of acquiring knowledge and rejected faith and religion. She supported rational and ethical egoism, and rejected ethical altruism. In politics, she condemned the initiation of force as immoral^[3] and opposed collectivism and statism as well as anarchism, instead supporting a minarchist limited government and laissez-faire capitalism, which she believed was the only social system that protected individual rights.

Yes that sounds like a communist... maybe you should spend a little more effort researching your claims.

I love how people keep spreading the Rand Paul being named after Ayn Rand lie.... Google is your friend, His name is Randal, his family calls him Randy, it was his wife who called him Rand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD-R_OeP6tU

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/pagespage/2010/05/whos-rand-paul.html

But it sure is amusing that y'all get so fired up about a person's name and hair.

Freshieee

I wonder if you realize that while you consider yourself a liberal, that you generally do not subscribe to the characteristics of those that are generally bashed. And because you take offense to the generalization, maybe you should call out those that diminish your beliefs that portray themselves to be on your side.

When, forgive the term, "liberals" come on to sight and disparage anyone from an opposite party only to uphold party, rather than principles, as if they are rooting for their favorite football team, not thinking that the world will live past next sunday, with no redeeming argument at their arsenal, that is what is most argued as "liberal".

I know the other side does it too, and that is the problem, that there are sides at all.

Perhaps we should value honor and integrity in those we choose to represent us at higher value than whether they have a D or an R. It might solve a lot of problems.

John - well said. 99% of the time I am sure that the people in these forums refer to anyone on the the other side as conservative or liberal when in reality the majority of people have a mix of viewpoints. For instance, I am strongly moderate, but consider my views too mixed to be label D or R. That being said, when I comment on an article about guns and say something like I believe in the 2nd Amendment I am called a conservative gun nut, but if I say later in the forum that I am for strong gun registration laws I am called a "libtard" that doesn't respect rights.

Liberal and Conservative used to have very specific meanings, but nowadays they are thrown around so much that you realize quickly that very few people in these forums have any idea what those terms truly mean. Not all D's are liberals and not all R's are conservative and most people are neither all D, R, L, or TP completely.

NEVER, and I mean NEVER trust anyone who tells you that they have a plan to fix everything and therefor you should vote for them, and only them. When someone tells you that, it means their main objective is to have the POWER that goes with the "office".

Take a good, close look at this Rand Paul is really saying: "I have a plan to fix everything and you should vote for me - and only me".

"When, forgive the term, "liberals" come on to sight and disparage anyone from an opposite party...." Hey john-737278, get off your high horse and look in a mirror if you think only liberals disparage anyone from an opposing view. How many times do we have to read a comment that beings with "libtards" that leads into a rant that actually says nothing of importance at all except to disparage liberal viewpoints. Maybe you should do what I do. When a comment starts out with disparaging name-calling, I figure the comment's not worth the read and simply move on to the next comment. I doubt I miss much in the way of illuminating commentary that way.

Don't like any of them for president as for Hill Billy Hillary she dose not have a chance in hell in 2016.

She is a washed up hag and I cant wait for her to hit me up for some cash.

face it she will be turning 70.

Bush/Rice 2016

I hate to say this but Trump was the only one that made some sense at the CPAC, the rest was acting like Clowns !!!

John954

Dude, third an fourth paragraph!

That is exactly what I am writing about. You judged me even though you did not hear me out to understand that I hate both parties and believe it is counterproductive.

I can cut on conservatives as well if you prefer?

@john-737278

What can I say you said it just right.

We need another Hero cause the current guy is spending way to much money and growing the government into something it was never supposed to be. That is were we are truly screwing up over and over again.

Both extremes of each party are taking crazy pills and some like Dianne Goldman Berman Feinstein are nothing but pure traitors to our great land.

Welcome to real life 8) are country is on the wrong track.

I can honestly say that having a background check if you want to buy a gun is something any sane person could agree on 8) we need to strengthen that but ban high cap mags or institute assault weapons ban hmm Nope and it shows across the country how the majority feels.

It's simple follow the Constitution and don't @!$%# with the Bill of Rights and we should be good and Obama and some politicians in both parties are wiping their collective asses with it.

john-737278

Freshieee

I wonder if you realize that while you consider yourself a liberal, that you generally do not subscribe to the characteristics of those that are generally bashed. And because you take offense to the generalization, maybe you should call out those that diminish your beliefs that portray themselves to be on your side.

I do not always tend to portray myself as "liberal"; the more extreme members of your ideology (and I mean that in a non-offensive way) would call me socialist or a "social democrat," a label I have gladly embraced to categorize myself. I do not believe that all liberals/progressives are inherently right; I know of a few on this Vine who get carried away in their apparent dislike of conservatism. Perhaps I should call them out, although I spend most of my time on this Vine arguing and debating...

When, forgive the term, "liberals" come on to sight and disparage anyone from an opposite party only to uphold party, rather than principles, as if they are rooting for their favorite football team, not thinking that the world will live past next sunday, with no redeeming argument at their arsenal, that is what is most argued as "liberal".

Not all liberals do so; I remember a time when I was, how you say, "innocent," at least in the name-calling and insulting. But as I saw the stubbornness of many extremists on your aisle and the damage that they had inflicted and continued to inflict, I turned to hate conservatism, at least in its contemporary form.

I know the other side does it too, and that is the problem, that there are sides at all.

Perhaps we should value honor and integrity in those we choose to represent us at higher value than whether they have a D or an R. It might solve a lot of problems.

It would indeed, my good man. Unfortunately, well-meaning philosophies are often corrupted by power-hungry despots, like Josef Stalin with Marxism or George W. Bush and Adam Smith's free market idea. That is why your side condemns the left's ideas on equality and activist government and my side attacks your ideals on the superiority of free markets and the benefits of limited government. That is why, when I call myself a "socialist," I do not adhere to pure Marxist ideology; in fact I even support the basic ideals of Adam Smith and the concept of private property. However, I do tend to favor labor unions, cooperative businesses, a strong and activist government, and a social welfare state, among other things, mainly because I agree with Karl Marx's initial view that capitalism, in it's purest laissez form, is unstable. However, while he believes that one must destroy capitalism in order to protect the working classes, I believe that you can stabilize via public institutions designed to protect it from devolving into a monopolistic plutocracy with a large gap between rich and poor. That is my belief, at least.

Rand Paul. Another wanna be, who never will be, President. What a joke!

I am glad that the Republican bench of up and commers is so deep. I just hope they can reverse the total government control of our lives that we have been subjected to over the past 4 years. Since when is trying to control the expanded growth of spending be a problem?

Freshieee

Well, thank you for labeling me, even though your label does not fit. I am conservative fiscally, yes, but most of my beliefs are not. Forgive me for thinking of you with somewhat of a higher standard.

A. Friend-3401376, we will gladly let you simpletons pick your candidates for 2016. We do get a kick out of those you chose and of course love the discourse or name calling by the rocket scientist Palin. Of course you know every time you do guarantee a win for us so this is actually great so there is no need to get your panties all in a wad over your incompetence with name calling and assertions of what we should be doing to ourselves when we can watch you fornicate yourselves time and time again. You will not get another Rethuglican in the White House for decades and will be lucky to keep a few dinosaurs in Congress much less Senate. Your boy, GWMD Bush did in your party not to mention the total division by the Teabaggers and that 47% guy the Europeans call Mittwit the Moron.

An observation. Photos of Rand Paul always make me think of a freshly sheared Angora Goat. Sorry Mrs. Paul.

Beverly in Chicago:

Now that is STUPID-----Where are your neurons?

1stsgtFitzsWife----------That is not "His" hair, or even hair.....I don't know what that crap on Rand Paul's head, Trump's head or even Ron Paul's eyebrows is...But I do know it is not hair growing naturally out of their body's.....LOL

Dr. Ben Carson, someone else who will lock the door (Like Rubio) after he and his family have come through.

Someone who will deny he had the advantages of an education and career because others of lesser income and more liberal bent sacrificed to get him those opportunities.

No Dr. Try working with the poor. They need someone to assist them in their education and medicine.

@ Jim Spence,

The principles that matter most.... Conservatives don't defend................

The principles that matter the least.....Conservatives see as a gimmick to conceal the one true principle of their movement..........

Conervatives want liberty for the few..........

Liberals want liberty for all..............

John-737278 Said it first on this thread and I know stating this on such a partisan thread is not popular but it is worth repeating. What is not at least reasonable about the Libertarian platform? Examining our country's fiscal mess I don't think a little conservatism would be such a terrible thing. As far as social issues, basic Libertarian principles are far more accepting than even many mainstream Democrat politicians. Now I know polls are wrong and reading the collective desires of the American public can be iffy at best, but it sounds like a very viable and American approach to embrace fiscal responsibility and protect civil liberties. It is position neither of the "major" parties has realistically embraced in a long time. Focus domestically, afford civil liberties, and get our money straight... We call this whackadoodle?

And at the very same time that the CPAC picked their next presidential candidate, the very man that they belittled and voted to exclude from all their conservative headgames, won the popular vote to run against Hillary, and by a wide margin, in 2016. Chris Christie. It simply goes to show that they still are using their tin cans as a communication line within their own ranks. Rand Paul didn't even make the list of potential candidates to run against Hillary in the public poll.

LOL

Poodle Head 2016! Picking up the torch from his dad. Failed Presidential runs for the next twenty years.

How do these republicans even use the word "Liberty" ? Their whole agenda is about "forcing" their views on "we the people. FORCE IS NOT FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

Rand Paul won the CPAC straw poll? That figures. He's got about the same chance as ever being president of the U.S. as any of those other CPAC nuts have.

Remember conservatives, you have to spin that straw into gold. Maybe Paul should consult with Rumplestiltskin.

john-737278

Freshieee

Well, thank you for labeling me, even though your label does not fit. I am conservative fiscally, yes, but most of my beliefs are not. Forgive me for thinking of you with somewhat of a higher standard.

I did not seek to label you in an offensive way. Forgive me if I did, for that was merely what I thought you were. I am not of a higher standard, my fellow debater, for I have filled my heart with the stone-cold hatred of opposing beliefs. A man of higher standards would not hate opposing beliefs; he would tolerate them, as I once did. If I have said anything to offend you deeply and personally, I apologize with the utmost regret. Debating can get the best of me, as you have surely seen. I apologize for labeling you; now I realize that that was a mistake.

Beverly and IMHO: you poor, poor fools... based on your comments regarding Dr. Carson; please limit your rhetoric to something you actually know something about.

Mitt Romney -- losing presidential candidate. Paul Ryan -- loosing VP candidate. Sarah Palin -- losing VP candidate. Rick Santorum --- thrown out of office by more than a 2 to 1 margin by the voters in PA. Newt Gingrich --- tossed out as speaker by his own people. Michelle Bachmann -- from one of the most conservative districts in the nation and still almost lost. Allen West -- tossed out of the House after 1 term. Then we have the losers who ran for the Republican nomination --- Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich, Trump. And what do all of these LOSERS have in common --- They all were speakers at the most recent CPAC comedy show.

Charlie - that was perfectly said. That really put it all in perspective.

Get John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Krispy Kreme to name a few - out of the party (They should go Dem)

Nice to see the shake up - for the sake of our children and the country

Many seem fixated on Paul's hair

Where've you been - with Joe "Plugs" Biden, Michelle "Bangs" Obama, and of course the Napster!

This Clown Carnival is so entertaining!

Chuckles Biden - a gaffe laugh a minute

"Buy a shotgun - and shoot both barrels in the air" - addressing gun control to a womens goup

"Not your garden variety slap across the face" - addressing physical abuse to a womens group

"They goin' put ya'll back in chains" - adressing the NAACP

I'd vote for Chris Christie if he ran in 2016. He's a cool dude who doesn't afraid of anything. I sincerely hope he does.

Rand Paul? No way. The guy is a paranoid moonbat that I wouldn't trust to guard an out house much less be the President. Hell, I'd take George W. Bush again or even Sarah Palin over Rand Paul.

Rand Paul? Who was named after Ayn Rand...

He wasn't named after Ayn Rand, you uneducated fool. His name is Randal...Rand is a nickname for short. Why would his father Ron Paul, a libertarian, name his son after an Objectivist who hated libertarianism? He wouldn't. The fact is, although most of you ignorant people don't know this, Objectivism is NOT a form of libertarianism. Only people who know absolutely nothing about politically philosophy conflate the two. Ayn Rand went out of her way to make it clear her philosophy was not libertarian and that she absolutely hated all libertarians. People who are statist drones simply see a few parallels and say "well, they must be under the same category, herp derp." Ayn Rand's works of fiction are popular books among libertarians, her non-fiction is NOT. Her actual philosophy is different in too many ways to count. Her fiction wasn't even all that well written, but because pro-liberty fiction that isn't sci-fi is so rare, libertarians read her. Personally I'd rather read a few other authors.

I'm so sick of lies and BS memes about libertarians. We don't want to starve the poor...we think the best way to bring people out of poverty is through liberty in the economic sphere (and that can mean free markets or forms of socialism - bet you didn't know that). We don't think the free market or socialism is perfect...we think they are both flawed but are better than our other finite alternatives. We don't think the world needs NO government...we think VOLUNTARY government is preferable in intention and result to compulsory government (the state). Voluntary government does not mean chaos or lack of law. And Rand Paul, who BTW I do not really like very much although I like his father a ton (Rand isn't really a pure libertarian...he's neocon on sanctions for example), was NOT named after Ayn Rand.

Randal Howard "Rand" Paul (born January 7, 1963) is the junior United States Senator for Kentucky.

Hell, I'd take George W. Bush again or even Sarah Palin over Rand Paul.

You'd take people who would gladly have us in war all over the world over things that have nothing to do with defending our domestic population, over a guy who is pro-peace, anti-drone police state, and for the individual freedom (like NOT locking up pot smokers in prison)?

What does that say about your sick morality?

How do these republicans even use the word "Liberty" ? Their whole agenda is about "forcing" their views on "we the people. FORCE IS NOT FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

Because the libertarian wing of the Party is not about that at all, Watch Rand's speech at CPAC...he is criticizing the GOP for just those policies of force. Libertarians in both Parties are against force for the most part (civil libertarian Dems and Repubs want to end the drug war and stop waging offensive, as opposed to defensive, wars..for example).

I hope you make the same argument about force not being freedom when it comes to taxes (extortion) and regulations on individuals who have not yet committed any harm.

Conervatives want liberty for the few..........

Liberals want liberty for all..............

Neither of those two want liberty. One wants social liberty but hates economic liberty (liberals), the other wants economic liberty and hates social liberty (conservatives). Hence, libertarians are not liberals or conservatives...they consistently want liberty across the board in social and economic spheres.

How is extortion (tax) a form of liberty? How is the drug war liberty?

The only people against both of those are libertarians.

Liberals operate on jealousy of people who are more successful than them. Conservatives operate on a busy-body notion that a few social ills caused by liberty in social issues are somehow excuses for abolishing those social liberties. The jealous and the busy-body control freaks...statists, the lot of them.

@ A.Friend: HEY LIBTARDS, We are tired of you giving you fuking approval for our candidates (ie. John McCain, Mitt Romney). How about we will pick our own candidates and you go fuk yourselves.

OUR "F'ing" approval for YOUR candidates? The American VOTER's dismissed YOUR candidates--it's called an ELECTION. But it is rather cruel to lead Rand Paul on and make him think he stands a chance to even win the GOP nomination. It's going to be one gnarly blood bath--a feeding frenzy for the history books. Can't wait.

A Friend,

With friends like you, who needs enemies. Does A stand for Addled?

According to a few posts above, Rand Paul is a physician, graduated from Duke University?? I could look it up, I guess, but I have better things to do. Anyway, as I remember, he was something like an optometrist, practicing without a proper license. His father is the M.D., but that doesn't erase the delusional streak that seems to run in the family.

Funny so many on the right that defend Bush tooth and nail cheer Rand who opposed invading Iraq and stated the data used to justify the invasion was manipulated. That means Rand believes Bush tricked us into war.

Larry, there you go again, confusing the issue with facts.

Damn right he did trick us Larry. That's why almost EVERY libertarians HATE bush and EVERY establishment Republican...as they're no different then establishment democrats. We believe in CONSTITUTIONAL government. We don't just support any candidate because of his title. Them democrats REALLY NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO THAT.

Dave, while I support your Libertarian cause to a degree, until they distance themselves from the GOP, they are going to continually be associated with them and their idiots. Rand speaking at the same conference with Trump, Palin, Santorum, and Romney ... and you want Democrats to take you seriously? Get real.

" Rand speaking at the same conference with Trump, Palin, Santorum, and Romney ... and you want Democrats to take you seriously? Get real' Amen to that! Running with that crowd taints any credibility the Libertarians might actually have.

Libertarians voted for Obama, So I don't Rand will make much of a differance. I just hope we have enough of a country left, by 2016. With Hillary "Libya" Clinton, and VP "foot in mouth" running I am not woried.

Paul-Rubio both offer the same visions as Grover Norquist and Ayn Rand. Thy're both no different. They will both meet the same political fate of a losing election should they decide run on their failed principles of Social Darwanism to offset unfunded coporate tax cuts of the rich.......

As my malappropriate friend says, "It's the Bible of the fittest."

Here is a little tip to all you Republicks out there. The way to find out who the liberal, progressive Dumbocrats fear the most that they would have to face. Is to visit this web site, read or watch any TV news. Because when they fear one they attack and say how can you, he or she is stupid, hillbilly, you are going to lose with him/her. That my friends is fear, but when they say nice thing about them, why they know you have picked another loser. Remeber lasts weeks storys on papa bush all the nice things the libs had to say about him. Oh and bob dole, how about the ultimate John Mclean reaching across the aisle to work with the Dumbos and Mitt. Before you dopey Republick gave him the crown why to the Dumbo he was a great guy, Mass gov who started barry care, a real nice guy. So by reading the tea leaf here they do fear Dr. Paul, but you go ahead and nominate who you want try another middle of the road kind of guy.

"A long way to go, but lets start talking PATRIOT act repeal." No seriously you should be talking medication, double up.

Great response Lazerfox. You really know how to put together a cohesive argument backed by facts. Idiot.

ExtremeRight ...

Good luck with Rand. Ol' Poodle head might have won a straw poll and might have won the hearts of those as CPAC but the rest of America (whom you all think you represent but don't) want nothing to do with him and his angst.

Extreme Right - I agree the Patriot Act has to go. Along with the NDAA. Along with the old timers in Congress who have played the game so long cheating the country out of liberty is all they know.

Layton - Hairstyle? If that's the substance of your argument regarding people you don't agree with, you don't have one. How do you stand on political action within the constraints of liberty under law to promote unity and produce answers that positively effect all Americans?

alim ...

Hairstyle? If that's the substance of your argument regarding people you don't agree with, you don't have one.

It's not the hairstyle. It's the fact that this country and Rand Paul have nothing to do with each other. While you are bursting your britches ... why don't you tell us what all Americans are? Would so love a reference . . . .

Look, we rejected the john birch society in the 60s and 70s. We'll reject them again even if they wear a poodle dog wig.

As the old song says:

"They can't even run their own lives,

I'll be damned if they run mine!"

@I'mnotconcernedwhereheis~Bush

All the unalienable rights were "endowed by the Creator". Rebuffing Him and His philosophy pretty much negates your US citizenship and your rights. Please make arrangements to leave the country immediately.

Stupid is as stupid does. You should at least respect what you don't understand. Good-bye.

Yeah..us women should be able to kill our babies up till the 9th month! EVEN as their noses are sticking out of our vaginas, we should be able to kill them! (That's actually what Obama supports in his refusal to vote agains partial birth abortion) Yeah, war on women! right. idiot.

Dave-4342450 . . . .

Yeah..us women

Transgender? If so, proud of you for keeping your name. War on women by the GOP - very real and very true. Get back under your rock and keep singing the praises of Eisenhower. You and your ilk are stuck in that era. And pray tell, how does President Obama "vote?"

That's EX guv'unuh FAILIN' - remember she QUIT

That's what Hitler and Stalin did for their people. And then you have the muslim countries like Iran who only allow Islam to be practiced and arrest anybody who tries to practice any other religion like the pastor who's in jail right now and he's a US citizen and our administration didn't even bother putting any pressure on Iran for his release. American Center For Law and Justice Chief Council Jay Sekulow said the State Department was awol and called their absence offensive. Even the European Union called for his release to the UN council and our administration didn't even show up for the hearing. It's scary to see all the communistic comments on this vine speaking against freedom of religion and the right to worship and calling people of faith brainwashed. Who's brainwashed here? One of the main reasons our country was founded and the reason people come here still today is because they want to be able to practice their religion without being persecuted. For our government to not pressure Iran to release this American pastor is disgraceful. You have the right to not believe there is a God and I have the right to believe there is whether you like it or not.

You are incorrect Anthony. Racism is not a conservative value. The GOP is no longer racist, it is a new party of proper conservative traditional values including marriage with a husband wife based family including interracial couples. The GOP, particularly the tea party wing, wishes to remove the domination of the individual by the institution and the domination of our future generations by debt. That means tearing down the domination of people by government and the giant corporations. It is not about racism.

You sound like a clone of Maxine Watters except she is much more intelligent.

ER - Life under Rand Paul would be grand - for the white, male, above average income, heterosexual crowd. The last beacon of enlightenment I saw coming out of the GOP was Jon Huntsman and they couldn't kick him to the curb quickly enough.

Ha ha Maxine Watters, that made me laugh just thinking of her. Then image this Pelosi the quotable idiot savant. You have to pass Obama care to know what is in the bill. Well we are finding out more and more and none of it is good. Gonna cost us dearly, well over a trillion, get more paper work for the health care industry, more cost, and less health care. How about the Wasserman Shultz. Remember the presidential candidate Edwards and the Democrat rising star Weiner? Then there is weird Al Franken and the jail bound Jackson. Remember the two responsible for the economic collapse, Dodd and Frank. How about the old murder Kennedy who was a drunk womanizer. War against women lol. Oh well thanks Red Wing Fan got a laugh and got carried away. Sorry if I hurt any ones feelings.

Rand Paul thinks that civil rights are a states rights issue, opposes abortions and GLBT marriage, and believes that corpoations will self-regulate if they are given the chance. I cant wait to see his brand of TEAparty idiocy get crushed like a bug if he manages to run in 2016.

The fact that I agree with him on defense and the USA PATRIOT ACT only means that even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut if given enough chances.

Extreme Right

The GOP, particularly the tea party wing, wishes to remove the domination of the individual by the institution and the domination of our future generations by debt. That means tearing down the domination of people by government and the giant corporations.

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.....Ummmm, excuse me, but do you realize that the Tea Party has been taken over by the Koch Brothers (about as giant as you can get in corporations), Grover Norquist, etc., how is THAT for domination, clueless people like you are the best argument for NOT voting GOP, keep talking, in fact, the DNC might even send you money to do so.

UncleSam-2242573

....... Sorry if I hurt any ones feelings.

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......No problem, we're laughing too hard at you to be hurt. Keep rambling on. Try to hook up with A. Friend, Monty Python is looking for some new material.

Actually RON PAUL was the least racist over anybody in the last election. He wanted to set free every non-violent drug dealer from prison, you know, for VICTIM-LESS CRIMES. Those people would be overwhelmingly black and hispanic. Everybody else wanted to keep these people locked up for victim-less crimes. How many minorities are sitting in prison right now for selling marijuana, which has been proven to be less dangerous than alcohol. Anybody who supports drug laws on marijuana is the REAL RACISTS.

NFIL . . .

ER - Life under Rand Paul would be grand - for the white, male, above average income, heterosexual crowd. The last beacon of enlightenment I saw coming out of the GOP was Jon Huntsman and they couldn't kick him to the curb quickly enough.

Nor was Huntsman invited to CPAC - too many braincells. Only those with a complete distance from the citizens of this country were invited.

Great post by the way!

hey "friend" - think you can cure your condition of CRANIAL-ANAL ORIFICE insertion? have you ever thought WHY everything smells like SH IT?

John Huntsman was the only candidate in the GOP primaries that I might have given a second look. All the others were just so far over the hill in the Twilight Zone that there was no way I could ever, in good conscious, vote for them. But like several have said, Huntsman was herded off the political trail by the RWNJs so fast that he never had a chance. Since then I've watched his interviews on TV. He isn't a mega-watt personality but he displays knowledge and ideas which are what we need in this country, not just another photo-ready politician (actually, I find Huntsman much more photogenic than the one picked to lead the GOP in the last election). Sorry he didn't get a real chance at the nomination.

I'm so happy that the republicons didn't even consider John Huntsman. Instead they mulled over Newt, Rick, Rick, Barbara, Herman, and wound up with Robme. I'm so very happy.

Keep the ideologues coming; it guarantees the U.S. will be safe from these third rate intellects.

Sounds like you'd rather have the Socialist Muslim in Chief continue giving away hundreds of $millions to the Muslim Brotherhood in the ME. Sooner or later he will run out of our money which is his plan by spreading the wealth everywhere.

CPAC is a gathering of out of touch people who still think that the American people embraces their19th century ideology. Blabbering on and on about the people's constitution is nothing but a cover for their unacceptable ideas. This is not the 18th century, and like it or not, time and circumstances do change. Hillary will win in a landslide in 2016.

Anthonyvet . . .

Thank you for your service. A.Friend .... MOVE to the country that Anthony served in and cry your foul mouth there.

why would "friend" bother? It might affect his favorite position of cranial-anal orifice insertion...

Anthony, sounds like your head got a little banged up, sorry to hear about your loss of brain cells.

Check Stormfront.org, they hate him, Rand Paul supports interracial Marriage like most of us Tea Party people do.

Rand Paul supports interracial Marriage like most of us Tea Party people do.

How shockingly modern of you.

Oh, ER, come now. Hahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh.

@Extreme Right, that is why there is a recent thread on Stormfront who support Rand Paul, except for his support of Israel.

This is a reply from that thread;

Rand Paul is the best thing going. I would support him without a doubt.

Actually RON PAUL was the least racist over anybody in the last election. He wanted to set free every non-violent drug dealer from prison, you know, for VICTIM-LESS CRIMES. Those people would be overwhelmingly black and hispanic. Everybody else wanted to keep these people locked up for victim-less crimes. How many minorities are sitting in prison right now for selling marijuana, which has been proven to be less dangerous than alcohol. Anybody who supports drug laws on marijuana is the REAL RACISTS.

Obama campaign, Black Panther approved, used and abused in the 2008 election and nothing done about it with Eric Holder.

Read your history. The Democratic party and the KKK were indistinguishable for a century

Did you take your meds today Anthony?

@GOP Comeback. Those racists left the Democratic party when Lyndon Baines Johnson supported the civil rights act, and they became republicans.

You should learn what the words Dixiecrats, Solid South, and Southern Strategy mean. Those racist former Democrats are now the core of the GOP and the TEAparty after both Nixon and Reagan courted them, along with the evangelical vote.

GOP, they were Dixiecrats . I was a Repub then, a dem after the flip-flop, and now Ind.

Read epist, he(?) is dead on. Nixons had his silent majority.

@OnTheEdge. I am female, but you are forgiven.

I love it when dittoheads get schooled because the repeat the revisionist history that they learned on talk radio and Fox News.

In case you didn't know it, most Republicans are in favor of the voucher system that would allow kids to go to any school they want. Obama killed the voucher system in DC but his kids go to a private school, but I guess that's fair. Dems, do as I say not as I do.

To Dee Stringer

Every Presidents kids in this modern era went to private schools that were sanctioned by the Secret Service. All First Families are unfortunately burdened with having to work through the Secret Service in matters of protection. They are not privy to doing just what they wish.

Many privileged children of wealthy Republicans DO NOT attend public school, the main reason is that their parents can afford to send them to private schools. Of course, if Republicans got their way with the voucher system getting approved the public till would end up subsidizing their private choice. Another benefit for the rich which the Republican Party graciously supports. It's the same reason that the Republicans are always in favor of cuts to education and doing away with the Department of Education. They have no need for it they can send their kids to private schoiols!

Your whining is nothing more than approving subsidies for the rich! Get a life!!

Dee Stringer: of course the president's children go to a private school. it's a matter of security! gosh, how stupid do you have to be to not be able to figure that out?

Minnesotan - I send my kids to private schools because not only our my inner city schools a complete failure, they are extremely dangerous and suck up endless taxpayer dollars to produce crap. It costs more to school an inner city child because of the failure of the family and social issues that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POVERTY! Good kids from poor families are stuck in the socialized education cesspool, another progressive failure. Teachers cannot make a difference and like all progressive policies the results are opposite to the intention. I am sick of working my rear end off to subsidize a socialized government's failure and corrupt test tube politics. The progressive social scientists in Washington, DC have increased poverty and squashed opportunity.

Poor Dee Stringer, what a jealous vindictive and typical Republican hypocrite you must be.

The President and Mrs. Obama PAY for private school for their daughters. THEY PAY FOR IT.

But you, hypocrite teabagger that you are demand that the public provide tax dollars through vouchers to send your brats to private school.

Get off your butt, get a job, quit demanding that we liberals pay for some religious dreck to be taught to your spawn AND PAY FOR IT YOURSELF!

God, that felt good.

Ballerina, tinkerbell or whatever, what is the difference in protecting a child by the Secret Service at a public school and a private school, both are schools kids go there? It is just Obama is a hypocrite and the left justifies it any way they can. And, black kids were the ones that vouchers helped in DC but Obama is in with the teacher's unions so he is not in favor of vouchers.

Look at that, Dee, our resident teabagger mental midget is back.

Why don't you first figure out what you are angry about, moron. That the BLACK President's children, who have special risks that your brats don't have Secret Service protection, or whatever it is you are trying to say about D.C. the teacher's union, or the current paranoid teachings of Glenn Beck.

Because that is what this is all about. You have ZERO credibility.

The President and Mrs. Obama, just like other WHITE Presidents before them, chose to put their children at Sidwell Friends, a school your spawn would not be eligible for because you do have to have some intelligence to be there.

Isn't it so ODD that the only time this is an issue is when the BLACK, Democratic President makes the same choice?

Now, Quit embarrassing yourself.

God, I hate stupid people.

You appear to be a hard core character assassinating horses A$$. I'd like to meat you at Starbucks you welfare latte sipping weenie.

You make Maxine Watters look like a genius.

The GOP tried centrist/moderate with Romney and lost. They need to come in to this century, quit thumping their bibles, uphold individual rights - ALL INDIVIDUALS, pass objective laws and be consistent. The list can go on for a while but that's a good start.

Definitely with you CBSTalkRadio, don't think this country could take another "moderate Republican" administration. Next time we'll probably end up with 3 wars.

CBSTalkRadio

With the exception of Chris Christy, the GOP should flush everyone down the drain.

Agreed.

If the GOP doesn't go extreme (again) Christy will get the nomination.

Salud

CBSTalkRadio ....

There are a lot of up and comers in the GOP that never get air time but should. They need to distance themselves from the TeaParty baggage and let in some fresh air. I so hope that they can become a party that is relevant at some point again. Differing thoughts help us to come up with better solutions. However, hating those that are in office and using your vote to go against anything is NOT a solution.

(and it's Chris Christie, darlin')

Barney Frank is the teabagger.

I'm a fiscal conservative.

I would be happy to vote for Rand Paul 2016.

16.67 trillion dollars in debt is a national disgrace!

Are you sure you don't mean Occupy Wall Street.

BTW, did you man the rape free happy hour tent.

2partyscam

16.67 trillion dollars in debt is a national disgrace!

I sincerely hope you can acknowledge that the Republicans and GWB had a lot of economic policy influence in adding to that number.

Salud

That was it ! So i am streaching sane and moderate. Judging by todays responses from the right, thats about as good as it gets.

And it's not going to get any better. Guess we work for Hilary's election.

Remember in 2014.

You forgot Rick Perry and Michelle Bachman, 2 of their finest.

you can pretty much write off rick perry. even the majority of Texans can't stand the man. I still don't know HOW he keeps getting elected.

michelle bachman is on her way out.

Don't leave out the rest of the passangers Rick Santorum, Allen West, Ted Cruz WTF!!!!! It's insane.

Oh, and old what's his name...Herman Cain.

Rand Paul/Ben Carson in 2016! Repeal Dodd Frank and Obama-Could-Care-Less!

Every VA hospital has a psych ward. Please turn yourself in before you harm yourself or others.

Seriously, Blew? Chris Christie and several others were not invited but the cream of the whackos like Palin and Paul were key speakers. Anybody who doesn't foam at the mouth at the mere mention of the word "moderate" was locked out and the howling beasts of Hell are running this sewer known as CPAC. Keep it up, you'll lose your House majority next time around. People are tired of this nonsense.

Remember in 2014. Republican party is run by whackos.

Anthonyvet - You are the most prejudiced and racist of all. You hate white people. Why not just admit it?

Post your own picture/avatar....

Waiting....

Hey beaner ... you first! We're all waiting . . . .

Hillary Clinton who voted to go into the Iraq war and voted for the PATRIOT Act TWICE?

Nope.

Rand Paul 2016.

It doesn't matter what she voted for. Had she or any other Democrat been President the invasion of Iraq never would have happened and you know it. A president convincing enough Democrats to support such a war doesn't make that war a Democratic war. Both Iraq and Afghanistan are Bush's wars as are his tax cuts and his drug plan. A shame he never bothered to pay for any of them.

Larry

Why did President Clinton do this in 1998?

Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

http://articles.cnn.com/1998-12-16/politics/1998_12_16_transcripts_clinton_1_saddam-hussein-unscom-iraq-strike?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

Why did President Clinton sing this into law?

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.

Authorizes the President, after notifying specified congressional committees, to provide to the Iraqi democratic opposition organizations: (1) grant assistance for radio and television broadcasting to Iraq; (2) Department of Defense (DOD) defense articles and services and military education and training (IMET); and (3) humanitarian assistance, with emphasis on addressing the needs of individuals who have fled from areas under the control of the Hussein regime. Prohibits assistance to any group or organization that is engaged in military cooperation with the Hussein regime. Authorizes appropriations.

Hillary's hair is too bad to be President. Long and greasy is not a good look. And she cant sing. She can cackle, but she cant sing. And she is sooo tired. In 4 more years, she may even loose her looks. Who can say.

But, she has been an amazing woman and a real credit to our country. I wish she had been president instead of Obama. But then, I wish I had be president instead of Obama.

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Hillary Clinton who voted to go into the Iraq war and voted for the PATRIOT Act TWICE.

So did all the Republicans at the time.

In fact, Ann Coulter LOVES, LOVES, LOVES Hillary!!!

Salud

I'd lay odds that Chris Christie will come in after everyone else has debated and I think he would win over Hillary.

Right Larry

"One way or the other, we
are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction
and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

i kinda hope she won't. i'd like another much younger democrat. she'll be in her 70's and she's got health issues. plus, i didn't like that she put up with hubby's sexual indiscretions. i feel she's really only interested in hillary and hillary's power. yes, she's smart and she's done a good job; but i question her personal integrity and most of all WE NEED YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY MORE IN TOUCH WITH THE TIMES.

Slodon: Clinton like Obama and Israel know you don't have to send in 100,000 troops to take out a threat. Drones and Cruise missiles work just as well. Bush didn't want to eliminate a threat in Iraq he wanted to take out Saddam and finish what daddy didn't.

@slodon

Please review my comment to Doc Holiday above. Thanks.

The problem with drones is that you don't get a chance to collect any intel. Hillary will have to contend with her Secutary of State blunders. Of course liberals will see those Libya killings as one of her success storys.

Liberals no more see Benghazi as an Obama or Hillary success then we see the thousands who died while Bush was president we just don't attempt to make some political point out of it. As for your drone comments you right wingers always have an excuse. We had to invade for intel? Get real.

Benghazi was nothing more than a CIA failure. The Benghazi site was not treated as a consulate, it was treated as a CIA safe house and operations center for future North African CIA Operations. I am still trying to understand what a US Ambassador was doing at a CIA Op Center. I would also like to know what the al Qaeda team went there to get, or prevent. Sooner or later the real story of the Benghazi Operation will come out, Hollywood will make a movie about the CIA North African Surge, or WikiLeaks will release the facts regarding the attack and the death of four Americans, and which US Agency each of them really worked for in Benghazi.

Straw is the only thing this little pimp will win, same with Rubio. Conservatives are nothing but goddamn frauds and troublemakers....and have done extraordinary damage to the United States - and the world. In some ways, they are worse than the Taliban and other Islamic extremists...