Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker rallies fellow conservatives at the Conservative Political Action Conference.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker sketched out a vision of conservative leadership during a Saturday morning speech to CPAC that could serve as the underpinnings of a future run for the White House.
As Walker told Politico on Saturday that he could not rule out a bid for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016, he brought conservative activists to their feet with a speech outlining his own achievements in Wisconsin.
"In the states, to be successful, we have to be optimistic. We have to be relevant. And most importantly, we have to be courageous," he said.
Walker forced a contentious law eliminating public employees' collective bargaining rights through his state legislature in 2011, a brash initiative in a state that helped birth the labor movement. When unions launched an effort to recall Walker, Wisconsin voters retained him over a Democratic challenger.
The Wisconsin governor's victory in the recall has helped transform him into a potential contender — although not a high-profile one — for the Republican nomination in 2016.
"Would I ever be [interested]? Possibly. I guess the only thing I’d say is I’m not ruling it out," Walker told Politico about his potential future endeavors.
To that end, Walker weighed in on the question about the GOP's future trajectory. And he said that conservatives should look to the states, rather than Washington, for future solutions. He told CPAC attendees that "real reform does not happen in our nation's capital, it happens in our nation's statehouses across this nation."
And Walker echoed Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, another prospective contender for the Republican nomination in 2016 who's argued for the GOP to avoid being defined by its legislative fights in Washington.
"All too often in politics, we talk in terms of 'sequesters' and 'debt limits' and 'fiscal cliffs,'" Walker said.


Scott Walker is too polarizing. If the GOP has any hope of retaking the White House, the nominee should not be a nut like Walker.
The reason of Walker winning the recall is not that majority of voters agreed with Walker on his policy against unions, the real problem is that Wisconsin doesn't have a procedure to repeal the union law. Ohio voters repealed similar union law because Ohio has that option.
Public employee unions are "Pigotry".
Governor Scott Walker saved Wisconsin from the fate of Illinois and California. Bankruptcy due to thieving leftist public employee union thugs.
Public employee unions fleece hardworking private sector middle class folks.
so...GOP's rich donors gambled away other people's money, caused a recession, leading to budgetary shortfalls, then GOP governors wanted to balance the budget on the backs of the poor who have suffered more from the recession caused partly by GOP deregulations pushed by GOP's rich donors.
Republicans' rich donors have moves their assets to tax havens outside to avoid taxes.
There is so much money in Cayman Islands and offshore locations. Republicans Aided and Abetted their rich donors to get bailouts, but after these corporations make obscene profits, they move to the Cayman and Bermuda Islands.
These GOP cry about budgetary shortages, but they will get a lot of the Cayman Island money in campaign donations.
Offshore tax schemes have become so absurd that one five-story office building in the Cayman Islands is now the "home" to more than 18,000 corporations.
This tax avoidance does not just reduce the revenue that we need to pay for education, healthcare, roads, and environmental protection, it is also costing us millions of American jobs. Today, companies are using these same tax schemes to lower their tax bills by shipping American jobs and factories abroad. These tax breaks have contributed to the loss of more than 5 million U.S. manufacturing jobs and the closure of more than 56,000 factories since 2000. That also has got to change.
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At a time when we have a $16.5 trillion national debt; at a time when roughly one-quarter of the largest corporations in America are paying no federal income taxes; and at a time when corporate profits are at an all-time high; it is past time for Wall Street and corporate America to pay their fair share.
Keep gulping the leftist koolaid, Pigotry.
The recession ended in 2009, this crappy economy is the direct result of Obama's failed statist policies.
Your class warfare crap about the "rich"is laughable, since 6 of the 10 richest counties in the US surround Washington DC. Liberal government bureaucrats are the entitled "rich" class in this country.
"Caymen Islands" alert....did you know, Pigotry, that Obama's new Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, hid his money in the Caymen Islands?
Class warfare?
When some rich banksters destroyed the economy, the poor have suffered, it's not class warfare.
so only when the poor demand more justice and demand a fair wage, it becomes 'class warfare.' The point is that when there is justice, more just redistribution of wealth, people are happier. More people have disposable income, they will boost demand, making the economy better.
In other words, the elephants are looking for a sacrificial lamb. Hillary's got this thing locked if she decides to run.
To this I would add, protecting and providing welfare to the rich, and then beyond that, they have nothing else. The GOP is on the losing side of every issue important to Americans. The GOP have declared war on every class of Americans except the wealthy. The GOP have even declared war on themselves, and at least once a week, we get to watch the oddly strange experience of them cannibalizing their own.
RedDev - You are so full of crap. That is all you left wingers can say is "the rich need to pay their fair share". Instead of whining about the rich go out and make your own fortune, quit relying on the Government to provide you with everything. Get off this damn computer and go out and get a job or start a business and quit depending on the government. Redistribution of wealth like the left talks about is nothing more than Class Warfare.
Priceless advice coming from a retired military piece of @!$%# that is 100% reliant upon the government for his subsistence - like the government provided retirement pension plan and medical services plans. Not to mention the government provided paycheck during his working years.
RedDev - At least I worked and earned by government check, unlike you. BTW, the pension I get from the military doesn't come close to 100% of my income. I only got what was promised and what I served my 20 years for, now what have you done besides cry and whine? I see that you think those who served or are serving are all POS.
Go see your momma and get your allowance or are you getting your government hand outs without doing anything?
Interesting that asking the rich to be patriotic like we have always done in our history is now class warfare.
Why should Romney making $58,000 a day pay less than half the percentage of taxes that I do? If that is not already class warfare I don't know what is.
What about the government reimbursing those large corporations for the cost of moving our jobs overseas? Is that not class warfare killing jobs in America?
Republicans don't mind class warfare just as long as the war is only on the poor and killing almost a million jobs to protect tax loop-holes for the rich is only their last attack.
RedDev,
This 2012 Forbes Article supports your claim:
The average annual income of the top 1% of the population is $717,000, compared to the average income of the rest of the population, which is around $51,000 (14:1)
Americans have increased productivity by 80% since 1979; unfortunately, their income hasn’t risen accordingly, if at all.
Since 1979, the bottom 90% of the nation has consistently lost money while the upper classes have gained. If the average person’s wages had kept pace with the economy since the 70s, most people would be making $92,000 per year which is 80% more than they currently earn.
The fact is that the upper classes really are taking money from the poor in a very real and concrete way. The so-called trickle-down economy has never worked, despite the protestations of conservatives.
The rich do pay a higher tax than any other group of people. The top 1% of Americans pay approximately 35% of their incomes in taxes. Inside of the 1%, however, the people who make the most money actually pay the least taxes.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneywisewomen/2012/03/21/average-america-vs-the-one-percent/
sfcret - you're so full of crap I don't know where to begin. Hopefully you're an old fart and won't be around that long. The quicker you guys die off, the better this country will be.
tonybeeerm - Wow, such hatred from a stupid a$$ hole. Now hoping people will die off because they don't suit or agree with you. You are really one sick person..
Since your comprehension skills are severely lacking, let me clarify. I called you a POS, not all those serving/served. Interesting, you are living proof that even the military isn't exempt from the Peter principle, or worse yet, the Dilbert Principle.
Now go ahead, and tell us more about that fabulous retirement you got after 20 years of work, so you could sit on your retired ass for 30 years, and then let's compare it to the retirement I won't realize until after 55 years of work.
Hypocritical? Look in the mirror. It works both ways.
Another one, sucking off a gubment check.......Translation = I got mine and I don't care about anybody else! I got what was promised......Translation = Promises need to be broken for anybody after me!
Typical TeaPeople mentality!
Dennis - this alone should shock anyone into opening their eyes to the issues of income inequality. The frustrating part of this that full compensation is rarely factored into the equation. For example, in 2011, the CEO of Southern California Edison earned a salary of $1.09M - not a far cry from the $717 figure. However, his total compensation was $9.54M. Likewise, the VP of SCE was $544K income with $3.09M total. Could that possibly explain why my electric bill runs between $200 at low-peak to $900 at high-peak periods?
Income inequality is dragging this country down. Employee salaries are cut to ensure outrageous compensation for top management. The working public face continual increases in utilities and services to ensure outrageous compensation to the 1%. And yet, the best advice that scum like the low mentality SFCRET can offer is 'go get a job', after the lazy POS spends the vast majority of his sorry life sucking off the government teat.
http://www.companypay.com/executive/compensation/southern-california-edison-co.asp?yr=2011
Wow, I respect most everyone for their service to their country, especially because medically I was not able too. However there is a certain place in hell reserved for people that serve their country for the retirement benefits and tell others to go seek their own fortune. Enjoy your place in eternity sfcret.
Red dev, there certainly is class warfare, it was declared on the poor by Saint Ronny in 1980. He was a crook at best but look what he has done to this country. It certainly hasn't got better because of his supply side economics. I am still waiting for the trickle down effect to equalize the income disparity.
Pig, Red BS, Johnboy - Republicans ARE keeping there states healthy, unlike Illinois. Indiana has a budget surplus as does Wisconson, thank you Republicans. Now lets look at the Democratic Illinois. Chicago Public Schools are 1 BILLION, yes 1 Billion in debt. The Democrats in Illinois thought it would be a good idea to take 687 Million out of education the last 2 years and give to the stolen union pension fund. Boy where is Ed Shultz when you need him, anybody seen him? So lets recap, Republican states Indiana and Wisconson ran well, Democrat Illinois just about bankrupt. Maybe thats why 30 out of the 50 states are ran by Republicans. Republican demise might be a little over hyped don't you morons think?
In Ohio,
John Kasich included a three part tax restructure plan in his budget. The Republican controlled legislature (both chambers) are rejecting 2 of the 3, only favoring the portion that cuts tax for the wealthy and business while rejecting the "pay for" sales tax hike and a new tax on "fracking" that would still leave Ohio below the national average.
John is also in trouble over his creation of a private company "JobsOhio". Initially it was funded with a combination of public and private funds but recently investigations have found that millions of tax dollars have been funneled into the private company without any legislative approval/appropriations. There were many questions about the legality of this venture at the start and these actions only show why the concerns were justified.
In addition his attempt to eliminate collective bargaining has never been forgotten and will be a main reason his reelection will be difficult and if there is anything criminal with the JobsOhio funding he will be toast.
sfcret
A whole new meaning to "hollow points".
You seem to have adopted Rove's "reverse wisdom" strategy... nothing is straight-forward... everything you thought you knew is the opposite of what it seems. Right?
Like...
Class warfare is against the rich... right... it's why they're getting richer and the middle class is losing ground.
Racism is against the race in power... right... it's why ALL our laws are aimed at protecting the minority interests, yet they fall behind and continue to be "profiled".
Tax cuts for the rich will increase tax revenue... right... one of the stupidest f@#king notions around brought to us by good ole Dubya.
We have a spending problem... right... the GOP increased annual spending over $500 Billion, then cut taxes to make it even worse, just before adding another $500 Billion to the deficit by crashing the economy... so WE have a spending problem?
We're killing our own people with assault weapons, large clips, and gun-show sales to anyone that breathes, so we need more guns and screw any background checks... right... is there a brain in there somewhere? At all?
And then we have Scott Walker. Here's a guy that gets recorded sucking up to a false Koch brother, criticizes the working class at every turn, and wipes out the only representation government workers have... and he wants to be Prez? What a laugh.
The whole party's a joke. They're bought and paid for by big money and people like you swallow their "illogic" whole.
It's kine this CPAC people --- any potential presidential you swoon over, be that Scott Walker, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum or whoever cheer at is NOT going to win a presidential election. Any candidate you clowns like is unacceptable to the vast majority of Americans.
The absolute best gift the GOP could hand to the Democratic party is to run Walker in 2016 . . . . with Palin as his running mate.
Recall notwithstanding, the majority of Wisconsinites loath Walker. Ask the average Joe or Jane on the street. Read a representative sample of WI media. Strike up a conversation in a bar or coffee shop.
The man is a buffoon, a criminal who was cunning enough to keep himself covered. He's always been a liar ~consult his college record~ and the lies are not glaring.
God must love stupid people. He made so many. But why did he have to make them all republicans?
All running Walker will do is further polarize Democrats to get out the vote bigger and better than they did this last time.
I expect Walker will lose his next re-election bid.
VP Bob,
Scott Walker did not save anyone but his rich friends. That POS should be in jail.
Walker wasn't recalled because under WI law, the governor can only be replaced if he broke the law. Lying to the people of WI and being a dumb $hit doesn't mean he broke the law.
Now let's talk about unions. Those of you who are against unions should think about this first. Let's just say all unions were gone. You might as well forget about overtime pay because the wealthy would get rid of that. Healthy care would also be gone. Paid vacations, also gone. Safety - GONE.
The wealthy republicians would make sure that all those benefits would be taken out of the laws. Why you ask? More money for the big wealthy corporations. You can live on the trickle down left overs that big money would allow you to get. Pay raises ha! Minimum wages HA! All of us pee-ons would be lucky to get a job for 50 cents an hour, living in dorms as slave labor. "SOUNDS ALOT LIKE CHINA" which by the way is a communist country.
Another saying you all love so much is "Trickle Down." This is what trickle down really means. A rich person has an ice cold glass of water. The condensation that forms on the outside of the glass will "trickle down" that's what you get. You, of course, will be on your knees saying "Thank You so much" while the weathly downs the big glass of ice cold water.
Same old childish attacks by the partisan liberal bullies here at First Read. Nothing but our big government Santa-in-chief will satisfy these libs who could not hold a candle to the likes of Scott Walker. Same thing with regard to Christie. We finally have politicians that are facing up to the problems created by politicians of both parties and all these partisan libs can do is call them names. Exception of course is that New Jersey's problems were strictly caused by out of control Democrats. The union thugs, some bused into Wisconsin from other states, could not take Walker out so the school yard antics of those who sit on their okole's all day spouting their baseless accusations here at First Read continue. I do get some pleasure from their caterwauling though. Anytime a politician of any party stands up to the establishment, that person should be supported and carried on the shoulders of all of this country's citizens. Instead, we have a large population of citizens that are only concerned on what they can get from their country, as opposed to what they can do for it. I was a Kennedy Democrat. I don't think there are many of us left now though.
Gosh Geo - and what exactly did Walker do to education in Wisconsin - oh my, cut it by a paltry $2.6b. Rather makes that $687m in Illinois seem tame. And where did all that funding for public education in Wisconsin go? Why, in tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations - aka Koch Industries.
So what exactly are you arguing? Cuts to education are bad? Then Walker, hands down, is the worse. Get back to us when, or should I say if ever, you actually have a point to argue, that makes any sense what so ever.
sfcret - "That is all you left wingers can say is "the rich need to pay their fair share"."
Left wingers, as you put it, say a lot. But that is all you want to hear.
If Scott Walker runs for President in 2016, he could get possibility 15% of the national vote, if my guess is right, that's how many nuts are left in the GOP, just saying "Wink Wink" :) :) Bonjour !!!
The Republicans need another Ike Eisenhower, and I don't see any on the horizon; all the potential candidates so far either dodged the draft, or failed to register because they came from privileged families, or just had no desire to serve ala GWB. They also need to reconnect with the less than wealthy millionaire citizens of the US.
It is always nice to have the opposition party tell the Republicans the kind of candidates we need to win. I'm sure that is what they want. They said Reagan was too conservative. Gerald Ford was the only man who had a chance. Ford got clobbered by Carter. Reagan beat Carter four years later with a 44-state victory. They said if you want to win, you must have a moderate like Bob Dole who can work with the other side. They said John McCain had to be the candidate in order to have a chance. Conservatives can never win, they said. Well, thanks for the advice.
Of course Walker energized the cons. He is working to take money away from the working middle class and giving it all to the rich. That's what cons support.
Dennis
Kudos to the republicans who cut the increase taxes portions. BTW some of those proposals are still alive, just not going anywhere at the moment.
One of those is to put taxes on professional design services. This tax is especially stupid because it will increase the cost of one of Ohio's exports (design services) making people outside the state with projects outside the state seek professionals from other states.
Other than that example, most of what Kasich has proposed and gotten has benefitted this state. His reversing of many predecessors polices has made Ohio consistently in the top five states in gaining jobs when previously they were amoung the worst 5 losing jobs.
SpokaneWA - What do the left wingers say a lot, besides bashing the rich, bashing Republicans, thinking the Federal Government is the answer to all of our problems and we need more Government programs, even if they don't/haven't helped.
I have for over two years posted many times the the Government does have a SPENDING PROBLEM, and it has been going on for many years under both parties. We have to many government programs and waste to much money on programs that are ineffective, no longer needed or just political "feel good" programs.
I have on many occasions stated I have no problem with raising more revenue, but before we do the Government must get it's house in order. I want to see EVERY Government Agency/Department, & Program audited by the GAO, or outside audit agencies to find the waste, fraud and duplication in the Government. Look at the GAO Reports and IG findings through out the Federal Government and you can find billions in waste, fraud and duplication. Senator Colburn has put out a list of wasteful spending by the Government. At the same time we need to completely revise the tax codes to make them fairer, arguing about who does or doesn't pay their fair share does nothing to advance a discussion about revision of the tax codes, instead complaining and pointing fingers only cause more divisiveness on both sides.
I have yet to see the biggest left wing complainers on First Read, to even bring up revision of the tax codes, except to raise taxes on the so called "wealthy", nor have I seen any of them calling for audits of programs, or demanding Congress and the President read and take action on the current GAO & Department IG Findings of waste, fraud and duplication.
BTW, who is to blame for the people taking the so called advantage of the tax rates & loopholes, it's the Congress who has written the tax codes over many years and Presidents of both parties who signed them into law.
So I believe if we the people want to see change in Washington and the way things are done we should demand more from our politicians and less pandering to the base or worrying about the next election.
Right wingers try to pretend Obama was responsible for our trillion dollar deficits despite the fact Congresses own budget office said that isn't true. The CBO's revised budget outlook in the summer of 2008 before Obama was even the confirmed candidate of the Democratic party said the 2009 deficit would be well over 1 trillion dollars and whoever was elected we would see deficits that exceed 1 trillion at least through 2011. Funny how Obama caused this before he even beat Hillary for the nomination. Any of you ever consider it might be the guy who sat in the big chair the previous 8 years at fault?
Job Seeker.
The Opposition doesn't have to tell republicans who to pick. The republican consultants already do that.
Almost every paid consultant of the republican party is of moderate / establishment mind. The theory since 1964 has been that the republicans need to moderate to be more acceptable to the independents because he who wins the independents wins the election. Even in Ohio in the last 100 years, he who won the independent vote wins the state wide races.
That is until 2012. In 2008, Obama won the independent vote. In 2012, Romney actually won the independent vote in almost every state and by a wider margin than in most of the non-swing states. Romney still lost 4 of those swing states including Ohio. What strategists found out was that the conservative vote was less than in 2008.
This is why CPAC and others are really pushing conservatism. Romney consistently dissed the Tea Party and gave them the cold shoulder. He picked up on them during the first debate, and when the numbers came out good, he went into a prevent defense instead of firmly keeping the pressure on. The support he gained saw that and soffened in the closing weeks.
If you look at who runs the democrat party it is liberals, the majority of the democratic party is liberal. In contrast, the majority of republicans are conservative, but those that hold the power in the party are moderates. In this sense, the republican party is divided against themselves. Until they become one under conservatism, they will continue to fail miserably.
Larry,
Congress was run by the Democrats in 2007 & 2008. It is congress that sets the spending, not the president. Think that isn't true? Because the republicans have fought the democrats by forcing spending cuts, each budget since 2010 has been cut by 50 - 100 Billion from the proposed Obama budgets.
You wouldn't know this unless each year you save the White House budgets released each year where projections are issued for the current budget plan and actual spending numbers.
In fiscal 2011 republicans forced the democrats to get 50 Billion in cuts out of the 2011 budget. The cuts given weren't really cut. It was money the agencies did not spend and by law are supposed to return to the treasury. Yet, this really is a cut, because the money is typically is spent on last minute programs that benefit the party in power's congressional or senatorial candidates.
2012 saw a drop-off of $100 billion in spendy below the Obama proposed spending, and so does 2013 which ends in September.
Listen, check it out, learn from it, and think differently the next time.
DB,
I believe all the proposals are alive as the legislators are just pushing back at this time.
Also the Governor wants to cut income taxes but he needs to replace that revenue from other sources which means the legislature either needs to pass what he requested or find another source. Otherwise the math doesn’t work and if Kasich approves only the tax cuts he will have a deficit to show by the time he runs for reelection.
How is the "recall" not withstanding? Believe the turn out was way higher than expected and Walker actually extended the percentage...therefore, how can the majority of Wisconsinites loath Walker?
Living here, I believe, like the majority of Wisconsinites, that he is the best Governor we have had in a long, long time. Not saying he is infallible, or that all of his policies are approved by me, but...he is stopping the gravy train.
D B Akron: In typical right wing fashion you simply lie, twist, deflect and distort when facts won't back up your agenda. The main drivers of the debt and deficit was the tax cuts at 400 billion a year, the wars at untold trillions in total costs and his 100 billion a year drug plan all initiated by Bush. Getting congress to fund a presidents agenda doesn't transfer the responsibility to congress and you know it. No reasonable person believes your nonsense. When you can link to programs initiated by congress that costs trillions as I did with Bush then we'll talk. Otherwise you're simply fooling yourself if you believe any rational person will accept democrats in congress as the creators of the Bush tax cuts, the Bush wars or the Bush drug plan.
Red - BS as usuall, nice try giving the Democrats talking points. Did not see anywhere in the 2 articles that funding was cut 2.6 Billion! You spew incorrect facts. No budget facts anywhere. Over how many years, some was off set by the guvment. So again, Illinois is close to bankruptcy for spending there budget on stolen union pension funds instead of education. And Indiana and Wisconsin have BALANCED BUDGETS IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mitt Romney -- losing presidential candidate. Paul Ryan -- loosing VP candidate. Sarah Palin -- losing VP candidate. Rick Santorum --- thrown out of office by more than a 2 to 1 margin by the voters in PA. Newt Gingrich --- tossed out as speaker by his own people. Michelle Bachmann -- from one of the most conservative districts in the nation and still almost lost. Allen West -- tossed out of the House after 1 term. Then we have the losers who ran for the Republican nomination --- Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich, Trump. And what do all of these LOSERS have in common --- They all were speakers at the most recent CPAC comedy show.
JerryMinnesota, you haven't a clue. There is NO such provision in WI law. Were you sleeping this past June on the night of the recall election. Your hero's on MSNBCwere all but suicidal with grief whem Scott won.
With regard to the rest of the leftist buffoonshere, Scott Walker will be Governor of WI for as many terms as he seeks to run for. One day he will be POTUS. Bank on it.
PS, in Obamaland, which Zar gets to decide what is a fair income? How much is too much? Enjoy killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, brainless fools.
Chris Christie gets snubbed and they bring in Ms. Selfy (Ann Coulter)! If Ann would have refused, they had Cathy Griffin in line next! What's next? Clint's Chair?
Now, that is what we mean when we talk of the left revising history. Made up bs to cover for the fact the unions were soundly rejected and the left dealt a crushing defeat and no coherent explanation as to why the voters chose to keep Walker in office.
Living here, I believe, like the majority of Wisconsinites, that he is the worst Governor we have had in a long, long time. The only reason he survived the recall is because many voters did not did not believe in the recall process. Make no mistake about it Walker and his fascist minions are driving the state over a cliff. Job growth is down, education priorities have been abandoned, and pollution laws have been abandoned allowing businesses to dump toxic chemicals into our ecosystem with out fear of retribution.
hardtostarboard --
What's a Zar?
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."
Douglas Adams
"In politics stupidity is not a handicap."
Napoleon
"It is much easier to be critical than correct."
Benjamin Disraeli
"Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please."
Mark Twain
Some things never change.
Minan59, you have a painfully short memory, but in your world up is down and right is left and good is bad...... Keep repeating the same old talking points, they're all total bull $hit. We now have mining laws consistent with MN & MI. Last time I checked the people who live in those states weren't clamoring to toughen their laws. Jim Doyle was a disaster for the state of WI, he ran our economy into the ground but managed to give tax breaks to Hollywood to shoot a movie here, and you guys complain about republican cooperate welfare. The few jobs that were made were temporary. The hypocrisy is mind numbing. By the way, I work in a UAW shop, 45% voted for Walker. Get used to it, he'll be governor for as long as he decides to run for the office.
You memory is failing. Doyle didn't run the states economy into the ground, Tommy Thompson did. He then ran off to join the bush regime leaving Mccallum another bum in charge. Doyle was elected to fix the disaster Thompson left.
Wow, ego at its finest, he has done everything he can to wreck the middle class in the state of WI, and he is proud of it. What is worse the RWNJ's think he has done a good thing. 2014 can not get here soon enough to rid our country of the likes of Scott Walker and his Koch brothers mentality.
Public sector unions are not the "middle class", they are the "thieving class"...
To know that, you would have to have a job. Somehow I don't think you do.
GOP thinks the Robber Barons were philanthropists. Past, present and future.
Ye Old Scott Walker is the perfect GOP Presidential candidate. He is corrupt to the core and has the full backing of ALEC, two qualities adored by the current reigning GOP. Heck, one super corrupt Walker, with the equally corrupt Rick Scott as VP would simply have CPACers creaming their jeans.
Of Mr. Walker,
Well some were in their old age. Carnegie comes to mind. Funny how as a person gets nearer to kicking the bucket, they feel guilty for all of the nasty things they've done in their lives.
Wisconsin has had its share of political extremism...Joseph McCarthy The Witch was the author of witchhunt in the early 1950s (he later drank himself to death). Scott Walker was the author of the lastest political extremism.
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We want to see a viable 2 party system, starting with moderation to be practiced by GOP leaders. Walker is no moderate, Walker is a McCarthy.
Wisconsin is doing great. Its obvious you are not from here. The unions were raping the state just as they have done in so many other places the democrats have destroyed. Look to Illinois for an example. Just like California, people are starting to leave in big numbers to get away from the loony Democrats with their taxes and insane laws.
Courtney --- California is finally getting out of the hole and into the black under a Democtic gov. after years of a Republican. Maybe you should read some more news and drop FOX.
Courtney (#2.7)..
most voters who reinstated Walker also believed that union wages are fair or even lower than what's deserved. These voters just didn't think recall is the right approach. Compared to corporate CEOs getting bonuses with taxpayers' bailout money, union wages are very fair. Budget shortfalls were caused by the recession that was a result of greedy Wall Street banksters, so budget should not be balanced on the backs of the poor who didn't cause the recession, who suffered from the recession more, who helped bail out major corporations.
What color state was Wisconsin in the presidential election?
Courtney Black,
Here is a comparison alittle closer to home.
http://www.minnpost.com/macro-micro-minnesota/2013/02/walker-vs-dayton-smackdown-which-governor-has-better-economy
Walker and Dayton were elected at the same time.
Dems took back the MN state legislature in November 2013.
Nothing is being destroyed by Democrats in Minnesota except the tea party extremists.
We have good paying jobs here in MN, a highly educated workforce, and a growing economy.
Wisconsin "open for business" motto is not working out very well....
Wow, doing so great, the workforce is rated 43 out of 50. Sounds like they are racing their way to the bottom.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100016697
Scott Walker who got fooled in a phone call, 'cause he thought he was talking to his Koch Brother financier. Scott Walker of "divide and conquer" strategy, from another of his billionaire financiers?
That Scott Walker?
chilled
Was that by the same guys from Quebec who got Palin thinking she was talking to the French President?
I think so bcwc....Walker, just like Palin, got 'punked'!
chilled, for old times sake
Walker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIS3aXrNsg4
Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc
Scumbag GOPcomeback, like thats going to happen with azzoholes like you leading the charge. The fact is the union workers work for their money. CEO's get rich off of union workers. State workers deserve a fair wage and benefits like everybody else. What that makes you is a low life azzhole with no culture.
You see here is the problem, there are free riders in this country that do not want to pay their fair share of taxes to live and work in a free country. They should leave, not stay here and soak up the O2. It is a waste of O2 to keep many of these tea bag traitors in this country, lets deport them to make room for the immigrants that work and pay their taxes. We as a nation would be farther ahead without the obstructionism and ignorance of the far right extreme racist. That is what the republican party has become.
@bcwc...
Those two, Walker and Palin are so gullible......Thanks for the memories!
Johntho - Union workers work for their money? Yes a lot do, but by far the laziest people I know ARE union workers. FACT! Why don't union workers pool thier money together and start their own business, problem solved. Do you think they would be unionized. Doubt it.
geo,
The fact is that many union people have bought the company they worked for, saving the company from going out of business.
In addition unions hold more of our National Debt than any single corporation in the US and even more than China.
It would appear that unions are more patriotic than corporate bosses
Walker could have negotiated with the union, who were ready to make a deal, rather than settle everything with a political tactic.
Walker will lose his next re-election bid.
Lets hope all of these republican bastards lose their jobs. Just like the state workers that either lost their jobs or have to take a pay cut. Just because a group of irresponsible people don't want to pull their own weight here in America. They should collectively be so ashamed they shouldn't come out in public, only two countries do not cover the basic health care of their citizens and we are one of them. Not only that these free market @!$%#s have made it so medical care is the number one cause of bankruptcy in this country. These republican are some real sick SOB's, in my opinion, and should be deported to make room for those that want to contribute to this country. The so called illegal immigrants. Free rider republicans, like geo, GOPcomeback and the others that post their useless drivel here.
I'm from Wisconsin and our glorious state is not doing great because of Walker and the conpubs. People are continuing to lose their jobs along with their homes. The only ones doing great are corporatists (like the Cock Bros. [and, yes, I spelled that deliberately]) and the few already mega-millionaires. We need a union revolt to bring down the wealthy who have destroyed jobs, the working middle class and economic posterity for our fantastic Wisconsin patriots. Anyone who's a conservative is anti-Wisconsin. If they live here, we must take away their greedily-gained money and return it to the people who create prosperity.
Old Man
And how is the governor doing it? Brown is cutting services. Brown is cutting State Pensions. Brown is cutting state employee pay. Brown is cutting state worker jobs.
Things the Democrat controlled legislature continually fought Swartzenager's efforts to do during his tenure.
BTW. The unions are suing Gov Brown for doing this, but you won't read, see or hear that on NBC. You live a very sheltered life by living off NBC News. You are the one who needs to change who you listen to!
We need to force our public owned corporations to pay our minimum wages wherever they go. This would show a little respect for workers and bring back jobs fast. Instead we give the pigs special treaties and tax breaks, while they make record tax breaks and pay low to know tax.
When the CEO of Disney made 600 million in salary he had children working in Haiti for 12 cents an hour. This is the insane greed that is destroying America. If we don't force real change the pigs and their government will soon have us in depression and chaos.
We give our big banks billions in 0% loans and they drive up the price of oil and other essentials with our own money by manipulating the commodities market. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanly and one outer control 80% of all oil futures. Everyone in Washington knows this and nothing is done to stop it. America will continue downhill as long these thieves have a license to steal. You can't run a country for 1 or 2% without destroying it.
Banks, wall street, commodities brokers, hedge funds and insurance companies have much in common: They produce nothing, take mountains and collectively own our government.
Where do I pick up my brown shirt and swastica armbands?
Scott Walker went after the public unions in Wisconsin (which by the way is the birth place of the public union) which is 100% funded by the tax payer... Much different from the private sector unions who negotiate with their corporations for pay and benefits.
After 8 years of Democratic rule under Gov. Jim Doyle Wisconsin was left with an 8 Billion dollar deficit and skyrocketing unemployment. Jim Doyle Raided the Transportation fund, the state medical malpractice fund,and passed combined reporting legislation that caused businesses headquartered in Wisconsin to flee in droves.
Jim Doyle also passed $290 billion dollars worth of tax increases in his 2009 budget in 2 days behind closed doors with no public hearings period.
Since Scott Walker has taken office and won reelection in the recall Wisconsin has gone from a 8 billion dollar budget deficit to a 140 million dollar surplus.
No government services have been lost or even interrupted.
Unemployment is far below the national rate.
Property taxes have gone down and there is now accountability in Madison to the taxpayers and how their money is being spent!
Dennis - Names and stats would be nice. You will excuse me for having a trust factor with a liberal.
OK all you teatards, birthers, science rejecters, religious fanatics, mindless dittoheads, evolution deniers, Fox noise cultist, conspiracy theorist, gun crazies and all around 15th century Republicans -- as you know, March Madness is upon us. President Obama will be filling out his brackets very soon. So be sure to start your whining and crying, bitching and complaining, moan and groaning about how he’s not doing the business of the nation and instead wasting the tax payers time and money on basketball.
At your local teabagger rally, of course!
Property taxes have gone down and there is now accountability in Madison to the taxpayers and how their money is being spent!
Our property taxes went up. Fees charged in Wisconsin went up. If there is accountability in Wisconsin how do you account for this.....
"The audit of the scandal-plagued Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation reveals that the quasi-public agency, put in the hands of unqualified Walker political operatives and incompetent political hacks, has lost track of millions of dollars and cannot collect $19 million in loans."
"real reform does not happen in our nation's capital, it happens in our nation's statehouses across this nation."
The dinosaur liberals in Washington DC, led by the hard leftist Obama, havent had a new idea in decades, other than bleed the public treasury dry, create a massive useless bureacracy, and redistribute income.
Reagan is the one that redistributed the income. Obama is just putting it back.
Republicans are the ones that keep sticking to the "starve the beast" policies that got us into this mess in the first place.
It's funny you think that the GOP is innovative, when I see them going the way of the dinosaur.
"The dinosaur liberals in Washington DC, led by the hard leftist Obama, havent had a new idea in decades, other than bleed the public treasury dry, create a massive useless bureacracy, and redistribute income."
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"GOP Comeback 2014," please show us fact-checked, non-blogged substantiations for any part of your claim.
And BTW ...'redistribution of income' happens all the time. It's called trade, commerce, taxation, and all governments in the real world do this, all parties. Your obtuse statements are intended to be so vague it can be interpreted in any way, or no way at all. None of what you've said in your hyperbole, intentionally destructive labeling and misleading narratives in your comments proves any point save your ideological opinion, and your willingness to maliciously distort the truth to pander to a shrinking audience of close-minded peers.
And chew on these realities for a while:
Poll: Majority Of Republicans Disapprove Of Congressional GOP
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-majority-of-republicans-disapprove-of-congressional-gop?ref=fpb
The Threat to Republicans
A new poll shows the majority of Americans believe the party is "out of touch" and "too extreme."
http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/cook-report/the-threat-to-republicans-20130228
Donald Trump CPAC 2013: Cutting Entitlements, Immigration Reform Won't Win Elections
Real estate mogul Donald Trump spoke at the 2013 Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, on Friday, where he cautioned Republicans that cutting entitlements while holding on to hopes of winning elections is a pipe dream.
Trump kicked off the second day of CPAC 2013 on a grim note -- and with much rambling -- reminding the party that it is in "serious trouble."
http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-cpac-2013-cutting-entitlements-immigration-reform-wont-win-elections-video-1130221
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And who can forget this one?
Bobby Jindal: GOP needs to 'stop being the stupid party' Republicans need to stop saying 'stupid things'
http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/279243-jindal-republicans-must-stop-being-the-stupid-party#ixzz2Njs0iVHz
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The Republican Brain: Why Even Educated Conservatives Deny Science -- and Reality
http://www.alternet.org/story/154252/the_republican_brain%3A_why_even_educated_conservatives_deny_science_--_and_reality
Study: Conservatives have larger 'fear center' in brain
A study at University College London in the UK has found that conservatives' brains have larger amygdalas than the brains of liberals. Amygdalas are responsible for fear and other "primitive" emotions. At the same time, conservatives' brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/28/conservatives-fear-center-brain/
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"GOP Comeback 2014," perhaps your name should be more appropriately worded as, "GOP Loses 2014, 2016, 2020..."
Eric
Explain why the median household income has dropped from 51,144 in 2010 to 50,502in 2011. Isn't Obama the best thing for the Middle Class since sliced bread??
slodon,
Where is your source for your statistic?
I will add to the mix, which has nothing to do with who is president, retirement of the baby boomers.
According to a Pew study, since jan2010, 10,000 citizens will reach 65 years of age every day for the next 20 years. Retirement income is less than what one makes working full time.
@slodon, what did you expect median income to do after the colossal recession made the perfect storm by Republicans.
Explain to me why the Dow was at 7000 when Obama took office and is 14000 now?
Here is the source for my statement.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acsbr11-02.pdf
Scroll down to Appendix Table 1.
Eric.
The Recession ended in June 2009. Obama has been in charge since Jan. 2009. When will anything be his fault??
The huge job losses also stopped by April 2009. Three months before any serious stimulus money actually made it to the streets.
Source
Recovery.gov, go to the column labeled "start date". Approvals began the last week of March, and the first money hit the street in late July. The bulk of the money the first year actually went to the pensions and salaries of the police, fire, and teachers and that was sent in August of 2009. Much of the money not spent on government employees did not hit the street until after January 2010.
The Republican party and too many democrats represent the same policies of the 1920s that created the great depression. We are headed for a repeat. We act like we don't know that more and more of our resources are going too a small group.
Explain to me why the Dow was at 7000 when Obama took office and is 14000 now?
$85 Billion a month in Quantitative easing plus a steady stream of 401K money entering the market everyday.
Add to that the federal QE is no longer being put in the bond market, it is being put into financial companies that are in the Stock market. Because of this the bond market is no longer so profitable. The money has to go somewhere to grow or the investment advisors don't get paid. They are currently pulling money out of the bonds and gold and putting it in the market.
The question is what will happen when the money stops flowing into the financial companies who are in the stock market.
Eric, the median income, even in the great depression started increasing by 4 years after the 1929 crash. Based on what I'm seeing this year so far, the median income is going to continue to drop.
Wrong! Both parties were responsible for this mess. In both parties pursuit of the voters caused this. The politically correct thing to do was to get low income people into their own homes. To accomplish this they wrote laws making lenders required to charge only so much in closing costs (far less than the real costs), make loans with no downpayments while banks want 10%.
Regulators became concerned about where loans were going after they were made starting in 2002. They testified in Both the house and senate to that affect. They were turned away by politicians who did not think there were any problems (answered without any investigation). The only people other than regulators expressing the possibility of a problem was a minority of Republicans and President Bush who were shot down by majority made up by all the democrats and enough republicans who sided with the democrats.
Even so, Bush still came out with a program to help more get homes by making the downpayment for people who made all other loan qualifications except the downpayment.
After the 1929 crash the market was up and down but matched the 1929 lows 8 years later. The economy didn't fully recover until after WW2.
Bush submitted the bill to congress allowing Fannie and Freddie to buy no down loans despite warnings from the CBO that this would cost hundreds of millions even in good times and unlimited risk of downside in a housing correction. You muddy the water talking about Democrats bad mouthing banks for redlining or limiting charges yet I can link proof that Bush took action which made the meltdown not only possible but likely. Can you link anything from Democrats in congress where they did more than talk? Amazing you'd deflect Bush's responsibility for the housing crash by praising him for allowing people with little income and poor credit to buy with no money down. The biggest factor in the crash. That takes chutzpah.
Despite the rights badmouthing Obama on foodstamps I can link to where Bush added millions of non citizens to foodstamp and welfare roles that lost benefits under Clintons welfare reform. That's the problem with you right wingers. You lie,twist and distort because the truth isn't on your side.
http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2004/10/05/zero_down_mortgage_initiative_by_bush_is_hit/
The logic of the right. If stock markets are at record highs under Obama it's simply a bubble. If unemployment drops it's because people stop looking. If housing prices rise it's because our moneys worth less.Answers: If a bubble you can sell today and make lots of money, not an option under Bush. If people have given up looking for work blame the guy who sat in the big chair when they lost their jobs. Our moneys worth less every year. It's called inflation.
In 1929 we had millions depending on soup kitchens, no unemployment, food stamps or welfare. It was a bit easier to increase the median income when the floor was so much lower. Unemployment hit 33% in 1933.
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Well said.
Run Scott run. It will be another big victory for the Democrats in 2016. When all you've got is egomaniacs like Scott Walker to run you don't have a chance of winning. Just look back at the last two tea people republican candidates.
Even the China has figured out suppy side economics don't work, they're raising the wages of the poor and middle class so they can buy Chinees products. And we're still catoring to the rich.Going backward?
As the song goes; "To dream the impossible dream!" I don't know if Walker realizes that Wisconsin is small potatoes compared to the rest of the country. A country that is currently center left. Go ahead baggers, jump and shout all you want and we'll provide the laughter.
Allow us to get this straight. Because this politician squeaked by in a recall he is deemed worthy for a run on the White House. These days any scum can make a run for most anything. Nothing new has been done for Wisconsin by this guy. If you are here watching what is going on you realize any effort put forward is a token effort. A token effort will look good in the news or give him more boasting rights. What sets this all straight is not to concentrate on his braggadocio, but to look at the actual numbers. For instance, returning "excessive" state revenues back to the tax payers would do nothing. A family of four with a $80,000 income would save $106 -- not nearly enough for one grocery run. Now, equate that with the larger incomes -- people who need NO throw back by Walker nor his ilk make out far better. A hefty income of $374,000 garners a pay back of $575 or almost 5 1/2 times the small guy's family. What is left unsaid by this pathetic gesture is that one earner has NO need for the generous refund while the other family remains destitute for the crumbs it is always given by politicians of Walker's nature.
There is merely ONE reason this man remains in office -- BIG MONEY SUPPORTERS. Now you can see where all of his "benevolent" gestures are actually directed. Remember this should you see his name on a ballot in the future -- especially if you are one of the remaining few of the working middle-class.
teareyed --- Thank you for the comparision.Makes one wonder does'nt.
The BIG MONEY supporters are the public employee unions, who bankroll their poodles, the Democratic Party politicians.
Then when Democrats get elected, they empty the public treasury to their corrupt union partners...wash, rinse, repeat.
Everyone wins, except the hardworking taxpayers.
Now if you really want to talk big money supporters in Wisconsin, let's talk Koch Industries. They make public employee unions look like small potatoes. And when it comes to politics, in Wisconsin, they OWN the political system. Look no further than the Governor Walker - bought, owned, paid in full by dirty, sleazy Koch money.
gop comeback2014,
Union workers are taxpayers too.
Your hate of union workers and your insipid talking points lend nothing to this discussion.
Northstar -- THose union workers pay a whole he!! of a lot more in taxes than the Rep. minimum wage workers.That is part of the problem, lack of revenue.
NorthstarDFL - There are two different type of Unions, there are the private business unions, UAW, UMW, etc., and then there are the Public Employee Unions. It's the public employee unions that most of us complain about, it is the Public Employee Unions that are raping the cities and states. Take a look at most of the major cities that have large Public Employee Unions, and see why they are so deep in debt and financial trouble. When Public Employee Unions have the power, and believe me they do, to elect those that control their pay and benefits the cities are in trouble.
Let see , Right to Work = lower wages = less revenue , Republican strategy. Seems we have a problem here Captian.
that's a load of bs if I ever heard one. You guys hate any union or anything that's a voice of unity. You complain about municipal workers making too much money, yet you're probably the first one on the phone b!tching when something goes wrong. Give it up, people shouldn't have to work for starvation wages.
sfcret,
There are many type of unions that represent workers: Labor, trades, government employees, professional.
They bargain for wages, benefits and working conditions. Nothing wrong with that.
Your concern as a taxpayer when it comes to state and municipal workers is misplaced. The elected officials knew for years about underfunding of their pension systems. These mayors, council people and state legislatures balanced their budgets on smoke and mirrors,ignoring the long range figures of the pension they promised to their workers.
So do not blame the workers. Yes, hard choices are being made. Union groups in my state have been more than willing to negotiate in good faith going forward. Demagogues who only want to point to the workers as the source of problems are not seeing the whole picture.
Good wages, produce good tax revenue, produce a vibriant local economy, produce more consumer demand, produce more jobs.....good wages ripple through society for the better.
teareyed
"Allow us to get this straight. Because this politician squeaked by in a recall he is deemed worthy for a run on the White House. These days any scum can make a run for most anything"
You are correct! Obama has clearly proved your point!
How many union workers do you know that have millions, much less billions, in foreign banks?
Ask Trumka, Hoffa and Stern that question.
No it is not. We have a choice whether or not we want to support a private union by either purchasing the products or not of a company that is unionized. Public unions do NOT give us that choice. Just try and not pay your taxes because you do not support public unions, just try...you will in the least be fined. This does not happen to the general public if they choose not to purchase the products of a unionized company.
Scott Walker did the right thing, he took the gun out of the hands of the people who where holding it against the taxpayers heads.
Your average union worker is out there busting their butt just like you, trying to make a living and taking care of their families. They want what everyone else wants and that is fair representation, good wages, health insurance and hope that things will get better. I am a union worker and I work for a county. I am doing the job of 4 people because of the budget cuts, I know that is the way it has to be for now because it is bad all over but to take away the people's rights to collective bargaining is putting us right back to the way it was before unions were formed. Right to Work is bringing down the wages that people are paid. Go back and check and do your research and you will find where Right to Work has dropped wages for the average worker. More people are living at poverty level or below in states who have had this law in place for several years they are not making the wages they use to make.
No RobWI Soctt Walker unleased a beast that is going to eat up your chances of having a better salary and a better life. Let me know in couple years how you like your wage decreases.
RobWi I am a state worker as an Boiler operator makeing 1891 pr hr , Working at a private company like a power plant at the same exact job they start at 28.00 pr hr . So rob you have been totally lied to why don't you go ask a state worker with 4yrs in the military ,trained and schooled in the field he or she is working and see how little state workers really make , I was self employed and will be soon again . RobWi go get a job with your state and see what it is like to have people like yourself who were lied to treat you like a villan as you are doing . The real villan are both parties R & D in the white house. You should ask a college grad. or a military vet where he or she is working ( Most Are Not) thanks to people like you with all the answers to nothing .
Minameme and Scott- You both are completely missing the point.
Personally I have nothing against PRIVATE SECTOR UNIONS. It is the PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS that are the issue. We "the people" have a CHOICE whether or not we want to support the inflated compensation of members of a PRIVATE SECTOR UNION comrade, but the PUBLIC SECTOR UNION prolateriats TELL the "we the people" are going to pay...anotherwards, WE HAVE NO CHOICE. Kind of like, taxation without representation.
That is until Scott Walker came along, he gave us that choice back.
Both of you, I have both benefited from a union and also been the victim of unions over my 40+ year career. When either of you have the same experience...from both sides, and the years daily diatribe between them, then you may scold one as per your discretion.
$18.91 + another $15 per hour in benefits, along with job security is something that most semi skilled people would jump at vs. the uncertainty of a similar job in private industry. A power plant is a quasi government controlled monopoly, hardly a fair comparison to public vs. private.
A better analogy would be the compensation of the person shovelling the side walk in front of the court house vs. the person shovelling in front of Ma&Pa Smith's grocery store.
The last comment, look not to the right for the decline of the middle class in relationship to laborers and semi skilled positions, but to the left. It was JIMMY CARTER that started the "RIGHT TO WORK" movement! That allowed companies to move to LOWER LABOR COST AREAS. He took away the unions biggest bargaining chips to keep the manufacturing facilities in the union upper midwest. He also ran on a platform to KILL the TEAMSTERS UNION, in 1976. It took him four years, but with the passing of the Surface Transportation Act of 1980, finally did it. Yes, Reagan used Jimmy Carter's law to break the AirTraffic Controllers Union, but it was Jimmy Carter's law. Then we had the Clinton love affair with China...how is that working out? The Clinton's opened the door to China through the WTO...go figure.
The Republicans are taking advantage of it to drive wages for employees just go back and look at the states who put in Right to Work several years ago. Workers are not getting paid what they should be paid they are having a harder time trying to make ends meet. Politicians are too afraid to put in laws stating to those big companies that line the politician's back pockets, that if you take your factories out of the USA not only will you loose your tax breaks you will be heavily fined on top of it.No ONE in congress has the balls to get anything done, but I digress. Allowing the republicans to cut down unions is allowing them to make the class war even worse. You will see more people living below poverty level thanks to Right To Work. Scott Walker is nothing but the big companies mouth piece.
Warning to Palin Derangement Syndrome sufferers.
The former Governor and VP candidate will be speaking before CPAC..
Please take your medications now.
We know you have deep seated feelings of inadequacy, but there are better ways to deal with them than spewing foul personal insults at a politician.
GOP ---And you don't?Really??
Medication for watching Palin is a large joint and a bucket of popcorn.
Don't worry about eating a proper amount of roughage today.......The Wasilla Village Idiot will provide lots of word salad.......Pull up a chair....the salad bar will be on full display.
Speaking of large joint and popcorn, where is Feisty? LOL :O)
I have to admit, watching a vicious former beauty queen morph into a grizzly bear is fun TV. Reminds me of those '50s Women/Prison (aka lesbian) B-movies.
http://fringepop.blogspot.com/2009/08/women-in-prisonyou-know-what-that-means.html
Talk ... I'm just happy that I can watch cspan online. May change my avatar for Ann Coulter later in the day.
RedDevPS; Those are not the flicks the nuns showed us on movie day.
Well, I think we can safely say Palin is partly responsible for getting those movies from the seedy movie houses to a CPAC stage near you. Leave it to the CPACi's to expose their latest 'kink'.
Thanks for the laugh... i needed it.
Wife, Republican, said the only way to begin to see Palin on stage was to start with two fingers of Bourbon and continue from there until bottle is consumed.
The Republican viewpoint:
1. The rich do not have enough money
2. The poor have too much money
The Democrats will gladly hug the Republican's elephant
The Republicans can kiss the Democrat's a$$
Maybe the GOP should try winning an election and leave policy alone.....
Rachel Maddow said the same thing on Bill Maher's show--did you get this from her? My guess is that you have been spewing this for a while. Oh well... Incidently, Bill Maher said on that same show that the rich are paying their fair share, especially in California. He looked PO'ed about tax rates, especially in California (a state I left long ago) and Maddow looked stunned that Maher would say this. Here's the link. Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-nX5YsKHBQ
@GOP, your party is going to nominate Walker and pPalin for Prez and VP? Thank you; thank you !
Mike: Yes to Walker and Palin another $billion spent to no avail!
Those on the left ignore Scott Walker to their peril. He is personable and down to earth, he doesn't come across as a know it all (like someone we all know...), and he won the recall by a wider margin than his first election--supposedly after the left was "all fired up" to boot him out of a left-leaning state.
Scott Walker, bad for Milwaukee, bad for WIsconsin, bad for the Nation.
The GOP dos'nt win a thing they steal it ,Do you want to know how its done ,ask the Bush family of crooks for 19.95 they will send you a book of stupidity. Its a blank page .The real sulution is a independant vote !!! and screw ALL polititions with their deep pockets .
Way Way Way too many skeletons in Scott Walkers closet for him to run for Postal Inspector let alone President. He only won the recall because the damn Democrats put up the same idiot that lost to him in the General election. How fricking stupid is that? If they did not like the socialist mayor for Governor the first time he sure as hell did not have a chance the second time either.
The in-bred farmers of Wisconson/ Iowa / Indiana and Illinois somehow think that they have to vote Repubilcan because of the Farm subsidies they receive from the federal government Get rid of the subsidies. Get the farmers back in the field. The illiterate that feed this country are a big part of the problem in those states. For years farmer's dealt with the weather and made a living, now they get paid not to farm and have been for the last 30 plus years. How much would this country save if these "farmers' actually farmed their land, instead of taking the handout that Washington offers these free-loaders. Born a Democrat - Vote Republican what a joke.
Gov Walker promised 250,000 jobs, that isn't happening. I watched his campaign commercials where he promised to brown bag to work until we were out of debt, he refinanced the debt and started eating steak.
Obama promised to cut the deficit in half after 4 years,that isn't happening either. So what is your point?
Politicians lie??
The real point is they work for the same bunch of tycoons on both sides and they can't fix what they are being paid to not fix . Its a real sad thing that our countries polititions are being paid to not fix a thing to impliment a one world rule (A COMMIE WORLD) with dictators and lords , and Walker fits the bill.( A TOTAL CRIMINAL WHO IS BAUGHT AND PAID FOR)
Got to weigh in and side with the Pig on this one, a rare occurance. Fat cat bankers and mortgage investors knowingly entered into unsound investments with the sole intent of using the system to funnel money into the (offshore) bank accounts of their rich and powerful buddies. Almost no one has been held legally accountable, and Mr. and Mrs. American Taxpayer once again was shackled with paying back all of the money. Something is BAD wrong when the stock markets are at all time highs, yet middle and low class America continues to suffer loered standards of living. As for Mr. Walker, any Presidential bid is DOA. Working class Americans will never vote for this anti-union/anti-worker ass.
What Walker leaves out is that for every overpaid public employee, there's a politician on the other side that AGREED to the contract. A pol who ran from doing what needed to be done at the time. But, every good polarizing tyrant wannabe needs a scapegoat.
Oh. He's never explained why he has a criminal defense fund. His lawyers have no comment although a number of his associates have taken pleas for wrong doing. Naturally, every right wing blowhard around will think he's OK.
The only overpaid state workers are the department heads the rest are under paid according to state wages compaired to non state workers do some research and you will find out the truth , and don't get information from some poll , ask a state worker to see his or her paystub. Hell I will show you mine ,rembering that I have US NAVY background with 3yrs of school as a Boiler Engineer and14yrs as a boiler operator ( I make 18.90 pr hr and the avarage outside of state work is starting at 28.00 pr hr )I've gone backwards since I took this job 8yrs ago , you will see many of the same stories from most state educated workers. Thanks for helping make state workers look like CON JOBS.
Walker as a Presidential candidate? He may be Big Cheese in Wisconsin but he is not Presidential material.
It's looking like Republicans are going to field another group of candidates that try to outdo each other on how fringy they can be.
Speaking of non-presidential material, how about the current president.
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker for president, you got to be kidding. The American people will never have this lunatic. It appears as though these far right wing nuts are not getting it in that the American people believes their ideology is far too extreme. I will never vote for this man.
I'm interested in how you define an "overpaid public employee". What do you consider to be fair compensation for their services? Minimum wage? Do you take issue with the salaries of CEO's, or their million dollar bonuses?How about those grossly overpaid athletes and entertainers? How do YOU determine what represents a fair wage for these public employee's and their families - or is it the fact that they are a "public employee" that you really take offense to? These people are not getting rich quick.....
A fair wage and benefit package for public employees should probably be the equivalent of the peoples paying for those packages......the tax payer. In the case of private sector packages, it can be whatever they can negotiate until it becomes too expensive for the employer.....at which point do not blame the employer for shutting down or moving his operations.
Walker has soldout Wisconsin to the koch brothers. He could write everything he knows on the back of a postage stamp and have room to spare.
"Public employee unions fleece hardworking private sector middle class folks." from yay GOP,,
That is BS! Public School Teacher here in Hawaii with no contract that brings home 2k a month with a masters degree!!!!!!!!!!!! The union is the only voice I have, and the republicans care about money waaaaaaay more than they do children. Hawaii has so many rich people and you can clearly see where the money goes. The only thing that they trickle down is piss. We may have to let them see what no public schools would look like. The GOP thinks there will always be some chump to fill a public job, but not if you can't pay rent to your lord. People might actually hear about Hawaii public education in the upcoming news, but we are not even really a state, more of a Disney for the rich. If you don't look at the poor, maybe they will just go away, right GOP?
At this point, it doesn't make any difference who runs for President on the GOP side vs Hillary if she decides to run. The only one who might have a chance is Christie and right now he is poison to the mouth drooling Right Wing. And, if the economy keeps improving even though the Republicans are trying to sabotage it for political advantage, there will not be a Republican in the Presidency for the next 12 years.
The States are staring to feel the pinch of less Federal spending and will be in a dire state if there are more cuts coming down the road. And, the double edged sword is you might pay lower Federal taxes and have the illusion of a lessening of the deficit but people will be chewed alive by State taxes on virtually everything and the lessening of spending by the public will grow the deficit by an enormous amount. By 2016 what is about to happen will cause the State Houses and Governorships to change, it is inevitable.
GOP: Mr President! We need to close GITMO! It is expensive, and it is not efficient to hold military tribunals!
OBAMA: I agree! We need to close GITMO. Lets' get it done!
GOP: Oh Hell NO! We need GITMO ! How dare you suggest we close it!!?
GOP: But, Mr President, you didn't close GITMO like you said you were going to!
Stop badmouthing women.
Stop badmouthing Hispanics.
Stop badmouthing blacks.
Stop badmouthing gays
Stop badmouthing people who are paid by the hour.
Stop badmouthing unions
Stop badmouthing teachers.
Stop badmouthing firemen.
Stop badmouthing policemen.
Stop badmouthing poor people.
Stop badmouthing people who work at any level of government.
Stop badmouthing college graduates (Rick Santorum)
Stop badmouthing anyone who disagrees with you about anything.
Stop badmouthing the media (constantly)
Stop badmouthing mainstream churches.
Stop badmouthing atheist.
Stop badmouthing Muslims.
Stop badmouthing science.
Stop sucking up to Rush Limbaugh.
Stop sucking up to Fox Propaganda.
Stop sucking up to conspiracy theorist like Glen Beck.
Stop sucking up to the craziest of the crazies at the NRA.
Stop sucking up to fundamentalist so called "Christian" ministers.
Stop talking about rape.
Stop talking about a whole wide range of subjects you know nothing about.
Find something to sell other than fear, fear and more fear.
Call out your crazies like Michelle Backnamm.
Call out your crazies like the Donald.
Call out your crazies like Sarah Palin.
Call out your crazies Rick Santorum.
Call out your crazies like Ted Nugent.
Call out your crazies like Wayne LaPierrer
Call out the birthers among your own.
Call out flagrant racism among your own.
Stop trying to win electing by making it harder to vote.
Stop trying to win electing by changing the way votes are counted.
Admit you are NOT losing elections because of voter fraud.
Stop your hypocrisy.
Either stop telling everyone how much you love the Constitution or stop trying to amend the Constitution time after time after time.
Understand you need a whole lot more than a “cosmetic” makeover. What you need is a TOTAL MAKEOVER.
Charlie, Stop writing novels, posts not novels, no one reads those longer novels anyway.
Says who?
WOW!
Very good advice, but you forgot about representing the majority of the people. Not the 99%
Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,,,,,
YOU, do NOT have the "right", to tell me anything!
YOU, seem to think that you have the "right", and I should follow.
Think Again.
THAT, which you do, is exactly, what you preach against.
You are trying to tell me how to live, what I should follow, what I should believe.
What you propose is wrong.
I HAVE "RIGHTS", and I'LL be (fill in the blank), IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD DO WITH MY LIFE!!!!
The path you are taking will lead to misery, and a whole lot more, be careful. There are those of us that will never be ruled. And that is what you are striving for, control, power, power to tell others what, where, and how what to do.
I don't know where you get your info, but, something is amiss.
Badmouth woman? Think Sarah Palin.
Stop badmouthing me, because I simply disagree. This is not a dictatorship, not yet.
Badmouthing blacks? Your side does that if they are Conservative.
Your side is spending ALL this money. When are YOU, going to start living within your means?
THAT!!!!! Is what we did here in Wisconsin!
Instead of having a corrupt system where money goes to the union. From there to the politician. Back to the union. Sounds like a con game to me. And the citizens get conned. To the point where they make half again as much as those they serve. IS THIS RIGHT??????
Governor Walker has simply made them pay a little more into their own pensions, and copays. Like the rest of the citizens of Wisconsin have to in the private sector.
Our pension fund is the best in the nation, fully funded. (How's yours?)
Thank You Governor Walker. I voted for you.
Oah, And Charlie.
It's hard to win an election against someone who "plays" Santa.
And has the backing of the media, who slant the news.
And your comment about amending the Constitution? (Stop telling how much you love the Constitution, and stop trying to amend it?????), Who's trying to rip it up? Think Dianne Feinstein.(Or is that freakenstein)
Just remember, "shall not be infringed".
My "rights". Are Non-negotiable.
Wulff Wisconsin state workers pention is totally funded by its workers ,As far as the wages and medical , Pay me a rate the same as anyone elese working as a Boiler operator and I will easily pay my own health insurance with money to spare ,According to the going rate we pay almost twice what other workers in the same field pay for insurance .You will find out the Insurance companies are raping this state for 1700 a mounth give or take a dollar or two , while you pay less than half of that. Thanks to Walker who is recieving millions from insurance companies , So Wolff stop trying to be santa you poor slob and the wages you bitch about is totally fabricated . As far as Charlie goes he is correct on most of what he said , And Wolf (WULFF)wolfs were reintroduced by idiots (GOVERNMENT AND YOU) and they are killing all the other animals thanks . Wolff if you had ANY FACTS WHERE ARE THEY?
Hey Charlie, STOP sticking your head up your arse!
why is that cheddar - you want to stick yours there instead so you need ROOM?