Well that is without a doubt the funniest thing I've read all day.

Has Bush's likeability index even moved a little since leaving office?

I don't think so.

Another Bush living in a Fantasy Land...

Yes, hilarious.... Jeb doesn't even remember that his brother was president for 8 years, not 4! His brother can't venture very far, he has so many international warrants against him for his war crimes.

Yea, right! He is going to be treated by history and historians about as good as a cat treats a mouse. However, this article does qualifies as possibly the best joke of the new week!

To sum it up, Jeb....

Wanna bet?

Jeb wants us to forget his complicity in putting his brother in office as Governor of Florida.

Now hold on folks, let us not forget that many history textbooks are now written in Texas.

The only way history will be kind to George will be if he is expunged from it.

I can't even fathom anyone outside of Texas and Florida that would even vote for another Bush. But then, you can always count on stupid people doing stupid things. God help the rest of the country.

Eh? WTF? Dumbya lied 935 verified times in his 1st few years. He even lied in the 2003 SOTU Address. We are far too kind to that war criminal.

The 935 lies of George W. Bush / Yes, you already knew. But now they're actually quantifiable. Like, say, stab wounds - SFGate

Okay...Jebbie just signed his "voluntary deportation warrant" from the 2016 election. This will haunt him to the end of his political days.

His brother, along with his vice president and SOD, should be on trial for war crimes. That's the way history should remember them. Oh, that and tanking the economy.

Did he actually say this? (!) No amount of revisionist history or the "If I say it enough times people will start believing it" will ever make the fact that "W" was and is and always shall be one the worst presidents in our Nation's history!

More Republican lies, deceit and distortions of the truth will no longer be accepted by the public. We know the facts now that the Hubris documentary by Rachelle Maddow has come to light. There's no denying that Bush and Co. started the Iraq war based upon lies and thousands of our troops died and a hundred thousand or more Iraqi's died - for what? Afghanistan was unnecessary as well, as Bush refused to hunt Bin Laden down after only a few years. We cannot afford another major war and yet Republicans like John McCain insist on attacking Iran now. We have to remove these idiot warmongers from our political system and realize we cannot police the entire globe. GW Bush is borderline retarded, and he should have been named Jeb cause he fits the profile that name suggests to the letter. No more Bush's shall be allowed to be in charge of anything any more - the entire family is comprised of greedy Texas morons...

In his four years as president a lot of amazing accomplishments took place,

Mainly the worst recession since the Great Depression. Yes they will always remember him in the same context as Herbert Hoover.

Jeb forgot to add that in the future Americans will think favorably of his brother when Alzheimer's starts to set in.

This is how the 43rd President of the United States: Mr Bush will be remembered:

FAIL!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueywqUBW3oM

Well, George might be written about kindly in some southern states where kids are taught that man lived with dinosaurs six thousand years ago!

The only "funny" scheeyit on this page is a drunken dye job red haired dried up old woman hoping that someone will think her crap is any thing more than drivel and drool from an Obammy lapdog.

Speaking of nutjobs and right on schedule here comes the short bus. Sorry pal, the only drool on here is yours. If you love Bush so much, defend him. Otherwise, stand down.

GW Bush was very unkind to history...and most everyone, except for the top 1%. Should HISTORY return the facor? That's Karma, I guess.

Don't think we forgot about Bush hiding in an "undisclosed location" when 9-11 occurred, or the lies about Iraq's WMD, or Haliburton raping the American taxpayers for billions of dollars, or .......

I need to stop as I am getting disturbed just thinking about it.

Moderate in Madison - truth hurts doesn't it? Clearly you're one of the delusional who believe another Bush would not bury the country. Try again! The majority of this country remembers that Georgie had notice about us being attacked and DID NOTHING! Then he went on to push an un-needed war in Iraq which cost us dearly in the lives lost of our men and women who fought there, plus the billions of dollars wasted on NOTHING. George was and is incapable of rational thought and action. We have NO ROOM for another Bush in the White House!

"In his four years as president a lot of amazing accomplishments took place," said Jeb Bush, the son of former President George H.W. Bush, during an interview on NBC's Meet the Press. "So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now."

I have always admired George H.W. Bush, though I never voted for him. But as a President, George W. Bush was not a man in his father's class. I don't expect his younger brother to admit it, but history will regard George W. as one of our nation's worst Presidents, and that, in my judgement, is being kind.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

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Jebberish

He'll be remembered as the Last Republican President.

Don't think we forgot about Bush hiding in an "undisclosed location" when 9-11 occurred

To this day it still bothers me on how Bush reacted to the news that we were under attack. He sat there in a school desk with that bewildered look on his face...and remained there for several minutes after getting that news. Are you frikkin' kidding me!!!! If he was such a great leader and Commander in Chief he would have immediately rose, announced to the children and faculty that he had urgent business that required his immediate attention and then got the hell out of there. And then, he flies around in AF One for several more hours. Talk about being prepared. Well, we all know who was in charge that day. The one in a Washington bunker giving orders and soon to initiate the war in Iraq. You know, the guy with the bad ticker and the terrible aim.

Hey, tonybeeerm (#1.32)

Bush hiding in an "undisclosed location" when 9-11 occurred

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GWB is still hiding in an undisclosed location today. He was hiding in an undisclosed location during 2012 GOP National Convention in Tampa, too.

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Where is he hiding?

under the Bushes?

I guess the Iraqi people don't count to Jeb Bush.

The question until the end of time - why did the United States of America start a war with Iraq and kill thousands of people who had absolutely nothing to do with September 11th. Why did the United States government take its eye off the ball in hunting down bin Laden and instead put thousands of our troops and wasted billions of dollars into Iraq.

And on top of that, then give everybody a tax cut?

Now everybody is talking about a Grand Bargain. We don't need a grand bargain. We don't need cuts to entitlements. Reform perhaps, but not cuts. Particularly to senior citizens.

No one cares about GWB's legacy.

What we care about is the here and now. Stop with the mistakes and think. Do not punish the people for the mistakes of the past made by our government. Irresponsible decisions should be a thing of the past.

As a democrat and President Obama supporter, I'm concerned about DC repeating the same mistakes over and over.

No cuts to entitlements. The Iraqi people wrongly paid the price for 9/11. We cannot make that mistake again and now make seniors and the poor and middle classes take the hits because of irresponsible decisions made by the Bush Admin.

Stop passing the buck to others in order to continue irresponsble tax breaks for the wealthy. Enough with this BS.

Pigotry - we can only hope he continues to hide. My stomach turns even looking at the idiot!

correction to my comment #1.26

GW Bush was very unkind to history...and most everyone, except for the top 1%. Should HISTORY return the facor/favor? That's Karma, I guess.

AND KARMA ALWAYS WORKS - that's the only hope for the bottom 99% to get justice.

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typo....sorry....doh.

There aren't enough dorsal-end, eilmentary sphincters to describe your "brother," Jeb....

And you want to run for President?

Yes, Moderate....defend him!

History will not be kind to G. W. Interesting Jeb is just laying the groundwork for a run for the whitehouse. I don't think he has a chance in HeJJ of winning, but he can always dream. I think his brother spoiled his chances of that happening. His brother and Cheney. I shudder when I even think about the two of them. If he is wanted by the international community for war crimes, why hasn't he been turned over? Anyone else would have been. Is there something protecting him? If he is accused of something, let him defend himself. At his expense. He and Cheney both. We, as a country, would want someone else turned over if we wanted them on war crimes. We would even go in and get them ourselves if we had too. Why hasn't GW been turned over to them if he is indeed wanted? Fair, is Fair.

Oh, wait.....

Are all the Bushs on drugs? or Maybe they just need to be. NewsFlash Jeb, your brother is a draft-dodging traitor responsible for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of American service men and women, as well as the destruction of our economy and our standing in the world. He's an idiot who refused to serve his country and then put our country at war for a photo-op while his own kids cruised around in their fancy cars getting DUIs and not even being punished for it. The entire Bush clan are traitors and idiots.

Again I must ask you, "What does any good dog do when he sees a bush"?

History will be kind to his brother?? - that's for sure - It won't record that he was tried and convicted of crimes against humanity that resulted from a major trumped up MILITARY ACTION that was started on a LIE and COST FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS, SQUANDERED MANY THOUSANDS OF LIVES - ALL FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

What a fuc king IDIOT - and just think - HE THINKS HE CAN ALSO BE PRESIDENT! (of course, that's only IF we are STUPID ENOUGH TO LISTEN TO THE BUSTARD - I KNOW that I'm not senile yet...)

da SHRUB - worst excuse for a "pray-see-duncy" EVER (of course, Murphy being Murphy, someone will eventually come along to replace his incompetency)

Before those of you that declare Bush will be remembered truthfully, you need to look into the Bush family history, starting with Grandpa Prescott. He was tied at the hip to the nazi's in WWII thru his bank. Harry Truman called him a traitor in hearings about banks that were helping the nazi's in the early 1940's, yet none of that seems to be common knowledge today. It was basically wiped out of the historical files because the Bush family had ties to those that could do it. 100 years from now, after Jeb has been elected president, citizens of the US might be calling George the best president ever.

With all of you angry mob (of bloggers), Bush is in retreat again...looking for a new hideout..another undisclosed location.

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Run Bush run, and run away

Go Bush go, and go away...

Why don't we launch GW Bush onto the moon, to be the first lunatic in the lunar colony that Gingrich talked about during 2012 GOP presidential primaries?? It's a win-win, everybody wins.

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Yes We Can

"In his four years as president a lot of amazing accomplishments took place," said Jeb Bush, the son of former President George H.W. Bush, during an interview on NBC's Meet the Press. "So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now."

Jeb, your brother was President for 8 years dumb ass!

Looks like Alzheimer's or denial is hard at work with ole Jeb!

Jeb Bush, like the rest of America, would like to pretend that George Bush's catastrophic second term had never occurred, and he'd also like to pretend that the catastrophes of that term were not caused by the mistakes of his first.

I agree, though, that history will be kind. In retrospect, George W. Bush will be regarded as little more than a tool, a helpless puppet who meant well, but lacked the ability to understand the motives and ends of the sinister forces pulling his strings. He will not be reviled so much as Cheney or Rove or their like. Historians will remember his administration as among the worst in history, but view him as nearly as much of a victim as the American people he unintentionally betrayed and abused.

George Bush will be remembered by history not as the Evil Emperor Palpatine, but rather as the gullible Jar Jar Binks. Everybody still hates Jar Jar, though, and nobody is campaigning for his brother to get a starring role in the next movie.

When Hillary was running (2008), all the right-wingers warned against a Clinton dynasty.

Freaking can't believe they said that after 2 Bushes messing up the country.

No Bush 3 - Don't beat around the Bushes - no more Bushes

The Bush's are the new Kennedy's, Kings and Queens and royalty all want to be the king at some point in life. Haven't we learned from the last 2 and the wars our children/this country has suffered through?

Obama will probably be remembered in my books as a president who meant well, but was ultimately ineffective in fixing the economic crisis, but George W Bush will easily rest as the worst president in history, not only for his incredible stupidity, but also for his absolutely wrecking the economy

Hey Jeb, Your brother destroyed your family name and reputation, the American people are sick of the Bush Rambo Chickenhawks !!!

Hey Jeb, The Koch Tea Movement destroyed your party !!!

Do you suppose that Jeb was just wishing that bush jr had only been in office for 4 years?

I wish President Obama would meet with Senators Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, etc. The republicans are still trying to shove their madness from the GWB Administration down our throats. THEY LOST. And for good reason.

Senator Mitch McConnell, if you press for cuts to social security, you're going to lose your re-election. You can count on it.

Did you all see Paul Ryan's new budget? Same as the last one. He wants to get rid of Obamacare. Evidently he hasn't learned a damn thing. Republicans never do.

Jeb is just the latest.

We admire and respect those who do well.

We are "kind" to those who tried but stumbled.

He didn't get impeached, or stoned to death, or left to be torn apart by wild animals, so, I guess you could say we have already been kind to that monumental idiot that nearly destroyed my country.

What would happen if GWB went outside of the Country ???

Read my lips....No more Bushes...

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It is important to America that we remember how truly horrible Bush was as a president.

If Al Gore had gotten into the White House, we would have stayed on the path to zero national debt by 2011. Not only America, but the entire world would have avoided the great recession.

The only thing Bush did was to screw up so badly that it made all smart people realize the folly of conservative policies. Bush may have wounded America, but he dealt a death blow to neoconservatism. Now the only people remaining on the right are the insane or the dim-witted. And, I suppose, in a way, it was thanks to Bush that America saw the rise of its first black president. Had Gore won, we would have had 8 years of prosperity, and Hilliary would have waltzed into the White House in 2008 in a landslide.

View the most crooked president this country has ever had in a more 'favorable light'!? I hardly think so, Jeb! The REAL and WHOLE truth will come out about Bush, Cheney and their cohorts in time and then he will be the most HATED and REVILED president of all time! He will make Nixon, who was really just a paranoid fool, look like an angel.. First and foremost, Bush and pals, are murderers! He DELIBERATELY started a war with a country that was completely unnecessary, needless and stupid! He knew damn well that Hussein was no threat to this country (or any other major power)! And yet, he sent men and women over there to be killed and why, you may ask, to make BILLIONS of dollars for himself, Cheney and their 'in-bed, silent partner', Haliburton!

Needless-to-say, he got away with it........for now.. But there are those who know the truth and it will come out someday.. I just hope he's alive when it does so he can be punished, although, I hardly know what punishment will fit his god-awful crimes!

hey, Louie Bee

History will be kind to GW Bush. Only in the History books that are printed in Texas.

That's a good one. Those decisionmakers in Texas don't believe in evolution, so they will get stuck with that stuPig, that prehistoric brute animal - Bush.

I notice that the usual cabal of SHRUB "defenders" haven't shown their ugly heads... yet.

My brother send me an e mail about 3 months before GW stole the Election in 2000. It was some Teacher from Finland I think. It perfectly told of how Bush would steel the election. It went something like this. A son of the former head of the American CIA, will run for President, He is not liked but he is well connected and his family will get him the election. The election will come down to Fl. where his brother is Governor. The Press will say Bush lost the election, but the Brother will fix the numbers and the Supreme Court will give the election to Bush. God I wish I had kept that e mail.

Truth is that is just the way it happened. I remember one of the GOP top man saying, we have enough money to buy the Presidency, we don'w even need the election.

I say this to the GOP. The American people are getting smarter every election. There aren't enough un-educated people for you to buy off anymore. You can't get the working class to pay 2 times more in taxes they the Rich do. We won't put up with that anymore. You always want to cut back on Entitlements for the pour. Well its time to take the Corporations off welfare. Its times that Insurance company's that take your money for a policy, pay up when you need that policy. These company's take you money for Home and auto insurance too, and when you need them, they have spent that money giving huge bonuses to the top management and there is nothing left for claims. The Government shouldn't allow that BS. Our Government keep letting things that kill us, be sold. Little Bush did much to harm the People of this great nation. The wars he started were to pad the pockets of his rich friends like Brown and Root/Halliburton, Witch Dick Cheney ran before he was picked as VP. We know they stole Hundreds of millions from the government. Why hasn't someone done something about that? Get that money back. Don't take that from SS and Medicare. Cheney said Iraq's Oil would pay for the war. Well get that money back from Iraq and stop taking more from the American people. Get the money back we spent rebuilding Iraq, but it into our country. We have left our roads and bridges and Water and septic systems crumble. Our Generals said we don't need any more tanks. We have 10 thousand of them rotten in fields. Stop building them and any ships we don't need, use that money rebuilding this country and updating Lite rail to save fuel. Get to work on smart electric Grids and more wind and solar. Get the politics our of the way of schools. Make them run like a business. Well scratch that. Business today don't run like business of old. They can't make money anymore, they have to steel it buy buying up other business to kill off competition. Look at our gas. There is no competition, they control production world wide and control the prices and walstreet is controlling it all. Food is much the same. And to my point. Bush opened the flood gates to big business to rape the working people of this country. My son posted something on facebook. It showed a Pic of GW Bush, it said" I really screwed all of you, But thanks for blaming it all on the Black guy." Enough said

Dubya was not only the worst president in America's history but the dumbest as well. Like Jeb stated during the GOP convention, "My brother kept us safe" while never acknowledging him as president. Jeb conspired with Dubya to hand him the electoral college of Florida and now he wants to consider running in 2016? How stupid is the party of old white men called the party of Greedy Old Men? Dubya brought us two wars, one based on personal revenge creating a safe haven for terrorists, violating the Geneva Convention agreement and crimes against humanity which ended with a warrant issued for Colin Powell and I suspect there are more waiting in the wings for Dubya, Darth Vader and others for their immediate arrest and trial by the World Court of the Hague. Our economy will take decades to get back to the level before this Monkey Boy was elected president twice while he hides out in Texas. No, I do not believe history will be kind to him but will feel sorry for his idiocy as a president so not to cast a darker shadow on America for electing him not once but twice. Who can ever forget his stated on the deck of a carrier saying mission accomplished and here we are 10 years later still fighting in Iraq?

I will posit this, with Rand Paul declaring his run, Jeb toying with the Greedy Old Party nomination run, and I suspect the usual nut cases like Ryan, Santorum, Bachman and Perry not to mention what other creeps like Gingrich crawl out of the woodwork will once again split the Greedy Old Party into shards guaranteeing a Democratic win hands down. Hopefully Hillary will run with a strong VP mate and will run away with the presidency.

Here is the truth people read it and see where you sta

www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs/

Everytime we have a fullmoon Jeb comes out, this kind of behavior is not acceptable !!!

History will probably be kind to junior but won't be to Darth Vader Cheney or Tweety Bird Rove!

History will excoriate George W. Bush as one of the most corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent presidents in our nation's history. It will condemn him for, among other things, his economic policies that led to the worst depression since 1929, his slow and ineffectual handling of relief efforts for Katrina, his illegal war in Iraq, and his inability to focus his attention on taking out the world's #1 terrorist, Osama bin Laden. Bush will be tossed into the scrap heap of history and his dwindling number of addled apologists will be treated with the utter contempt they so richly deserve.

He may be right- in that we the people won't throw his (GW's) smirking ass in the big-house for the rest of his life.

(and hey, Jeb- we aren't supposed to mention this loser, remember?)

Yeah right. That's from the movie Fat Chance, Producers Slim and None. I think the whole family is afflicted with Delusions of Grandeur

The Republicans NEED Bush:

Do you know the last Presidential election the Republicans won without either a Bush or a Nixon on the ticket as Pres or VP?

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The last Republican elected President without a Bush or a Nixon on the ticket was Herbert Hoover in 1932

Ike and Nixon

Nixon and Agnew

(Ford was not elected as either VP or Pres)

Reagan and GHW Bush

GHW Bush and the red hed

GW Bush and Cheney

My problem with Moderate in Madison is not that he's a Republican, or even that he would probably vote for Jeb Bush. My problem is that his position is so weak that he attacked Feisty on a personal level instead of telling us some reason why history should remember GWB as anything but a pawn of the 1% and a monumental FAIL.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

I remember Nixon, a.k.a., tricky dick, had the same wishful thinking right after he left the White House. Nearly 40 years after Nixon resigned, people still think he is a dick, tricky dick. I hope Nixon's example can help the delusional Bushes to fully grasp reality and have a measure of reality chick.

Jeb, let's look at this logically. Lyndon Johnson did a lot of good things. He also did one thing wrong, Vietnam. Your brother did a lot of things wrong and one.................. Damn i can't think of anything.

WOW - Jeb and Mitts attended the same Poll Reading 101 class. Have no doubt, G.W. will be popular in the history books - he will go down in history as the president that destroyed the country.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

Well, most people do tend to give the mentally challenged a little leeway... but Dumbya? Not a chance in hell.

"...And yet, BHO is even worse!"

Well, yeah- don't ALL the polls show Bush down around 22% approval, and BHO around.....No, wait....

Behold how Jeb Bush's statements have hereby brought a new wave of embarrassment to his brother.

If Jeb continues to lionize his brother, he - Jeb - will sink his own political career by having made himself 1) look ridiculous and 2) seem like a liar.

WAIT! I DO believe in miracles!!

Just saw PeggyNoonan on Face the Nation, and her lips were moving, AND her eyes were open AT THE SAME TIME!!!

Good one Devil's Son!

History will remember that Bush was "in charge" on September 11, 2001, when 19 Saudi Arabians hijacked 4 airliners and killed over 3,000 Americans in one day. It will also remember that the Bush administration in the middle of a complete lock down of American airspace permitted all members of the bin Laden and Saudi royal families to fly out of this country. History will also remember that Bush then went completely over the edge and attacked Iraq in a war based on greed, lies and deception. History will sneer at Jeb's idiot brother!

Good trick if bush was only president for four years then they get to blame President Obama for the crash, just like they have been doing the last four years. Funny how the deficit wasn't created by the republicans unpaid for lied to wars, but President Obama's out of control spending that doesn't exist.

Republicans remind me of an abusive relationship. One where he uses threats to get his own way. Just like the house threatening to destroy not only America but the entire world economy to get their own way. No wonder so many in the house voted against the violence against women act as they think threats of destruction of our economy are a bargaining chip to be used against the entire nation and see nothing wrong with using abuse to control.

Since the republicans got control of the house they have lurched from one man-made disaster to the next without a care as to what they are doing to the economy. And then want you to blame our President for the slow growth.

The only laws that republicans can get behind are ones that kill jobs and don't create them. Yeah kill jobs to protect tax loopholes for the rich. Are you as insulted as much as I am to how little they care about all of America and our fragile recovering economy they broke?

Republicans don't want to lead they want to rule in a land where the poor suffer and the rich get tax cuts.

Vote for any republican at your own peril.

"So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother,

"You guys are crack addicts," he told host David Gregory.

And Jeb thinks Gregory is on crack? Me thinks Jeb should ease up on the LSD!!

Damn i can't think of anything.

I've got one Devil's Son - he spawned one of the best comedies ever - "That's my Bush".

Actions speak louder than words...

Why is he not in the public eye anymore? Every living President back to the R-hated Carter is out doing things good things for mankind/Party. He didn't even attend the last Convention or show support for Romney. But actually that is a good thing - I used to get violently ill every time he swaggered in front of a camera, "scuse me, now watch this drive, uh-huh".

The Present has been very kind to George Bush - given that he is not in prison for his false Iraq war and false claims that led to deaths of over 300,000 iraqis and 3000+ americans.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

NO.

But GW Bush is already history...that's for sure

GWB killed thousands of American Troops and Mangle thousands more in Iraq on a LIE and now hes on his ranch Mourning the lost of his beloved dog with Jeb and dad holding his hand continuously wiping their eyes fulled with tears, poor dog !!!

Bush Lied, People Died ... that's already written in history.

I agree fiesty. I'm sure the victims families in Iraq and US will not forgive or forget. His stupid war, HE wanted from way earlier. I'll never forget his pissy statement "your either with us or against us" SO, if we are against the dumb war we are NOT patriots .. fu gb

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

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Yes indeed Jeb,,,,,,,

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George "W"orst President In History Bush !!!!!!
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History shall also record that it took many years for the United States Of America to fully recover form the Bush Administration/criminal empire.
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And to all of you well meaning Republicans who plan on supporting Jeb Bush in a future election, get ready to get your asses kicked all the way back to the stone age.

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Please find a decent candidate Republicans. We so badly need a good leader.

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Why do people like Jeb & Co. refuse to move out of the land of DELUSION?

But he's right. History is a lot kinder to his brother than he deserves.

Jeb Bush has lost it. Plain and simple. History may be kind to his brother, in the fact that it will simply blame him for not doing anything to help the country, but that's a best-case scenario.

Contrary to what Republicans believe, the cause of the recession lies in policies set forth by their hero, Ronald Reagan. Most Republicans nowadays think that the recession was caused by either "over-regulation" (aka the CRA) or by stupid actions by "both parties." While it is true that both parties have their hands dirty, the fault, dear Brutus, lies not in both houses, but in the GOP. The recession was clearly caused by a housing bubble, a bubble that was built up by the tax cuts and deregulation policies of conservative leaders (Reagan and Bush 43). That housing bubble led to a financial crisis, a crisis in part caused by the deregulation of the financial industry. Now, Dubya is not completely responsible for this mess, yet he did pile on to the problems facing this nation.

I completely disagree with Jeb Bush; history will not view his brother in "kind" light, not will they respect the disgraced and dishonored Party of Reagan.

IF history was just,,,,,,

,,,,,, the only words we should need to read about George "W"orst President In History Bush, are;

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1. The Hague

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2. War crimes

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3. Prison for life.

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( That sums it up Jeb,,,, so please crawl back under whatever rock you slithered out of. )

Mr Bush, continue to believe that and YOU will be the recipient of the wrath of humanity. From the thousands of OUR soldiers killed and maimed to the hundreds of thousands of others killed and maimed to the "weapons of mass destruction" to the life long "friendship" of the Saudi kings, and now "history will be kind to your brother" crap. Sir you have one hell of a fu***d up mind. You single handedly screwed up Florida into the mess that will not be solved in our lifetimes and YOU WANT US TO THINK OF PUTTING YOU IN AS PRESIDENT? When HELL FREEZES OVER DUDE, WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER!!!!!!!!!

And today's rats would claim history now looks favorably upon them for their part, back during the 1348 epidemic of bubonic plague. They were not responsible for the fleas. Jeb reasons, a bush is a stunted tree. I don't know about the tree, but they're mentally stunted people.

Byron Raum - you said it perfectly. History has already BEEN much kinder to George Bush than he deserves. Otherwise he'd be rotting in some jail with Cheney and Rumsfield as cell mates!

Obama will probably be remembered in my books as a president who meant well, but was ultimately ineffective in fixing the economic crisis

Wrong! Obama will be remembered as a president that got things done despite overwhelming resistance and obstruction from an opposing party only bent on destroying him.

'cause Jeb believes that he needs to at least partially rehabilitate his brother if he is to ever have a shot at the presidency himself. He's correct. But any rehabilitation attempt will fail, and Jeb will never be president. Anyone who believes he has a chance lives in the Republican echo chamber, which, unfortunately, he does.

No, Jeb. Our country doesn't need a president that doesn't even know how long his own brother served in office.

Hey, Close the Fed (#1.91)

Please find a decent candidate Republicans. We so badly need a good leader.

Rand Paul has just emerged. He is refreshing...he even proposed cuts to defense! A conservative with a conscience, that's Rand Paul.

I am open to a viable & moderate GOP presidential nominee with common sense for 2016.

Anyone but Bush, please.

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But I'm sure Hillary will be Madam President on January 20, 2017. She is our best hope for a Madam President.

seeker6 - the link you posted and it's stupidity is only the truth in the minds of people like you - who refuse to see the real truth!

I think Jeb is correct; one day historians will move George W. up from 90th best to 89th.

Diogenes, Junicon, et al in this case Jeb was referring to his father GHW, who served one term, not his brother who mis-served two terms.

Well Jeb -- it's like this ---- no president since Kennedy had the keys to the White House turned over to him from the former president with the nation in BETTER shape than did George W. Bush and no president since FDR had the keys to the White House turned over to him from the former president with the nation in WORSE than did President Obama. It will take this nation a generation or longer to dig ourselves out of the economic disaster caused by your brother and his Republican controlled Congress.

JEB: if you think 'history will be kind to your brother," then you have already shown yourself to have woefully bad judgment, and - honestly we wouldn't have voted for you anyway (no more SHRUBS) - but now you really are toast. Please go bury yourself in Crawford (or some other hole in TX) and bother us no more.

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FORWARD: HILLARY, 2016! :-)

“History will be kind to my brother”...... It sounds like Jeb Bush is the one that's been smoking crack. G.W. Bush will go down in history as the worst American president ever.

Let’s review: 1- He lied to us and got America into an unnecessary war in Iraq. 2- He totally botched the war in Afghanistan, 3- He lost Bin Laden due to his incompetence. 4- He brought the economy to a near total melt down due to his greed based economic policies. 5- how could we forget that old G.W. took a huge federal budget surplus that was designed to pay off the national debt and gave it away to all his rich friends……..History will NOT kind to George W. Bush; him and all his right wing pals like Dick Cheney are lucky not to be in prison right now.

Today we’re still suffering from the effects of the Bush administration. Since 2008 every Republican a-hole in Washington has been doing everything they can to cover up the crimes of the most corrupt presidential administration in American history. Of course their favorite tactic is to blame all Americas troubles on “Obama”….. But those of us that have been paying attention know the truth and we know who the real criminals are.

One day soon the right wing zealots will be driven out of Washington and when they are American justice won't be far behind..... In the end they will all pay for the crimes they committed against the American people…… They can run but they can’t hide, Bin Laden ran too and we found him.

History "kind" to W?

Not unless they rewrite the whole 8 years he spent ruining both our finances and our reputation in the world.

Jeb is starting his run at the white house.

We remember what you did in Florida. Subverting democracy may not be as heinous a crime as those committed by your brother, but we won't forget.

If your brother G.W. steps outside the US, he will be arrested for crimes against humanity. Half a million dead Iraqi civilians in a war that he lied us into. Darth Dick is a wanted man too.

Oh, there's the looting of America to account for as well. The largest wealth redistribution in history. The anti-Robin Hood, taking from the poor to give to the rich.

The "patriot act" removal of constitution rights.

The "No child left behind act" which left millions of children behind.

There's lots more but I haven't got all day.

Facts sanitized, revised, reimagined, rewritten....is always kind....

Factual History....isn't as kind.

Hi, RI Mom

Facts sanitized, revised, reimagined, rewritten....is always kind....

.

Sean Hannity will write this Hannitized history, then

"History will be kind to my brother..."?

Only if we allow ourselves and the Radical Right to reinterpret, distort, rewrite and/or forget the latter half or our 20th Century American History ...over the next 100 years.

After that, I hardly expect anyone to be alive by then, to personally remember what President G.W. Bush and his Administration did -- if only what's already available on written archives, photos and video records that are kept publicly available, uncensored, unchanged and complete.

Once can only hope the truth remains, as is, for future generations to learn from it.

Right, definitely a humorous article. He will certainly be remembered for some amazing things--he and the repub-controlled congress: Started 2 wars, 1 under false pretenses; nearly doubled the military budget; started Medicare D at $100 billion and growing per year without any funding at all; and at the same time as all of this, decreased taxes, especially for those most able to pay them, all of this leading to the worst recession since the Great Depression.

Yes, only Hannity, Limbaugh and their ilk will remember him kindly!

History will not be kind to Bush at all... he strengthened Iran, sought war on false pretenses, left us a lot of debt and two recessions.

I used to consider Jeb smart, until now

Very good points, Charley 1915.

Good afternoon RI Mom, I gave you an upcheck on that.

Hillary will be too old to be madam president in 2017 but "what difference does it make!!??"

Coincidence much.. I remember the news that morning Bush was reading to the kids in Floriduh.. My first thought was why are they showing this as breaking news on our station here in Oregon, and I didn't know he could read.. The newscaster started to say we are going to take you to a breaking news story in NY.. Airplane crashes in to building.. The news people are trying to figure out what the hell is going on.. A few many minutes later they cut back to bush getting told the news of what happened.. Kinda odd that he was reading to kids for the first time out of state.. I don't do the conspiracy theories, but you know damn well that is way too much of a coincidence that he was conveniently gone when the attacks happened for a reading thing for a random school in Floriduh which he had never done before.. I bet my account that he was warned and only had the balls to protect himself and not the people that he was sworn to protect.. He is the most cowardly president in my opinion.. And I will never let my own kin forget what a joke an a coward he was.. I doubt history will die down that much since a lot of people lost their lives for a useless war..

It would be deja vu, a Clinton beating a Bush, wait didn't that lead to prosperity last time?

Eric-913730

Well that is without a doubt the funniest thing I've read all day.

Has Bush's likeability index even moved a little since leaving office?

I don't think so.

Bush was at 34% approval when he left office, per Gallup, the same approval as Jimma Carter when he left office. CNN polled Bush's approval at 43% in June 2012.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/Bush-Presidency-Closes-34-Approval-61-Disapproval.aspx

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/07/cnn-poll-george-w-bush-only-living-ex-president-under-50/

CalicoWhispers

reading thing for a random school in Floriduh which he had never done before

What are you confused about, that he was reading, or that he was in a school, could be firsts for both.

"You guys are crack addicts," he told host David Gregory.

(He later jokingly corrected that characterization to "heroin addicts."

So, does this idiot Bush believe one is better than the other? Or is he trying to simplify it by associating different drugs to certain people?

The Bush family is drooling from their mouths to be historical, this unmanly & unruly family clan have no morals !!!

Jeb, why wish for unrealistic expectations from history? I'll be kind to your brother right now. He was an incompetent boob with the maturity of a prank loving frat boy. He knew he was in way over his head. He depended on Rove, Rummy and Cheney to make all of his decisions. He just wanted to walk in Daddy's shoes. He made the childish statement that he was "the decider" because he knew he was never the decider.

Most Presidents choose the people to serve in their administration. In G.W.'s case, Rove, Rummy and Cheney chose G.W. to be their figurehead President. They stood constantly over his shoulder and told him which buttons to push. I doubt that history will be kind enough to consider the utter stupidity and immaturity of your brother. They will hold him personally responsible for his disastrous administration with the true perpetrators simply being accessories to his many misdeeds.

You can thank me for my kind words by donating a few of your millions to one of the many charities that serve needy American children.

I'm sorry, but I must disagree with those of you who are calling George W, Bush an idiot.

He has created the persona of a bumbling half wit as a political tool. (like his Texas accent, that no one else in his family has, he was born in Newhaven Connecticut). It allowed him to get away with so much. The press never put his feet to the fire for anything during his first 6-7 years. They just figured he didn't really know what he was saying. "Don't misunderestimate me" was a clue that he was pulling the wool over people's eyes. (underestimating him for the wrong reasons).

He has a Harvard MBA. While powerful family can get you into Harvard, even buying them a new building does not get you an MBA from Harvard without doing the work.

No, W. was not stupid, and that makes what he did 10 times worse.

Commonsense, Rove, Rumsfeld and Cheney are considered the back-bone of the Repukian PARTY by that party. I can see why nobody wanted to ride shotgun with Romney! Ryan got drafted to take the hit for the party. America needs these three stooges like gasoline used to put out a fire! That party spends too much fighting itself. America needs another Bush like TV needs another Kartrashian show. No thanks! I'll take my chances with Obama. I didn't vote for Obama, he is what we got, those who did got change. Boy did we get change!! I've been Independent since Bush Sr.'s first term ended. Bottom line, Cheney called the shots and Jr. was his Howdy Doody. Cheney was such a bad shot-caller he couldn't tell a lawyer from a quail either! A laxative should be named after George Jr. After all America $hitted itself out dry and it's people broker than ever getting into Iraq and feeding the Sewer Saudis and their brothers. Like I said, I'll take my chances with Obama. While I'm at it, Jr. is as Texan as the Pope is Persian!

Read my lips ---

• NO MORE BUSHES!!!

History will view Bush as the president who was against terror at all costs.

History will view Owebama as the foodstamp president who was against successful Americans at all costs.

Under Bush unemployment doubled. Under Obama the DOW has doubled.

Realist17 - clearly you're NOT a realist. Plus, the childish name calling of our President says everything about you - and none of it is good!

Charlie: The dow doubled for two reasons: 1) a correction from overselling, and 2) the Fed printing money (to cover our deficit) like there's no tomorrow. And once those chickens come home to roost, our dow is finished. And everybody but you seems to understand that.

"moderate" in madison, are you Seriously pretending to be a moderate in one breath and resorting to childish name calling with the next? If I seriously thought you were a moderate I'd have to rethink being so. I'm no great fan of Obama but he's been my best choice in the last 2 elections and done a decent job cleaning up the mess he inherited despite obstruction. Stop pretending and embrace the dark side. You know this to be true.

To continue the Star Wars theme, spot on by Nathan. Now I can't unsee it "Mesa war Iraq cause mista Rove say so."

okiejoe, I'm hoping your wrong and with each new president he'll just keep dropping another spot. America can't afford another disaster like that.

Charlie: The dow doubled for two reasons:

The DOW has doubled because of record corporate profits, because the US economy is growing while Europe and most of the rest of the world is flat, and because the US is still the safest place to invest money in the world.

And once those chickens come home to roost, our dow is finished.

That already happened -- under George W. Bush when the housing bubble made the economy look a whole lot better than it was. Remember -- when Bush left office the DOW was at 8000. Sorry Repub -- as much as you want the economy to collapse and in spite of the efforts of Mitch McConnell and John Tan Man to make it collapse, it's hasn't happened. Remember -- over 250,000 private sector job growth last month!!

Tell us Jeb -- if your brother was such a great president (or your father for that matter) why did Mitt Romney and the rest of the Republican party totally ignore them during the election season. I don't remember a single Republican presidential candidate saying they were going to govern like George W. Bush. They sure didn't want him at their convention.

"His brother can't venture very far, he has so many international warrants against him for his war crimes." That may be, but fortunately for him, he does not live in Rhode Island. I say, he was the Greatest President since Jesus H. Christ!

Jeb did a great job turning Florida into the laughing stock, intellectual armpit of America(we are still trying to recover). Now he wants to finish what his turd brother did and turn America into the laughing stock intellectual armpit of the world, with the help of the Texas School Board.

Man oh man. I keep reading the hate from the left and just don't know what to make of it other than you all are deranged. Look, Bush was such a failure that the current president kept his Iraq policy intact, and even expanded the Afghanistan war? Is that what you mean? Bush was such a failure that this president fought fiercely, you all claim, to keep the vast majority of the "Bush tax cuts" in place?

I don't think Bush 43 was the end all of presidents. He had far greater opportunity than he produced in reality, but it is hard to deny that much of what he favored AND did are things that the president who you all today view as a messiah continues to do. Do you even get that if Bush was so bad, and Mr. Obama has continued to do so much of it, that Mr. Obama must also be bad? Do you even think about your hateful drivel before you hit the "enter" key?

And for you leftist braniacs above who are yucking it up that Jeb Bush (who I do not favor for higher office) didn't even know that his brother served 8 years, rather than the 4 you claim Jeb mentioned, could you please learn to freaking READ? Jeb was talking about his FATHER, not his brother. Man you leftists are a dense lot.

"So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now."

Historians ignore the rhetoric and look at the record, and in that regard, G W Bush has a very good record;

The Economy (GDP)

GDP when Clinton left office in 2000 = $9.821 Trillion.

GDP when Bush left office in 2008 = $14.394 Trillion, an increase of 46.6%, or 5.81% per year.

GDP for 2012 (last info available) = $15.602 Trillion, an increase of 8.4%, or 2.1% per year.

The Deficits

Total Deficits for Bush over 8 years = $2.006 Trillion ($251 Billion per year).

Total Deficits for Obama thru 2012 = $5.059Trillion (1,274 Billion per year – 5+ times as much).

Employment (average).

Total Average Employed in 2000 (Clinton's last year) = 131,794,000 jobs

Total Average Employed in 2008 (Bush's last year) = 136,849,000 jobs, for an average gain of 5,054,000 jobs.

Total Average Employed in 2012 (Obama's 4^th year) = 133,735,000 jobs, for an average LOSS of 3,114,000 jobs.

These figures are all from official government sources – The Obama White House Historicals for GDP and Deficits, and the government Bureau of Labor Statistics for Jobs.

Sources for GDP and Deficits - http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals

Source for Employment – Official Government Bureau of Labor Statistics -

Hi Charlie,

I don't fully agree with Realist, but only because corporate profits aren't mentioned by him as a major part of stock valuations. Still, could you be more wrong to not comprehend that in the meltdown valuations went far below what was rational, or that money printing (inflation) is also a major reason for higher prices, including stock prices?

It is probably true that in 2007 we had both over bought the stock market, driving prices irrationally higher, and that in early 2009 we had over sold that same market, driving prices irrationally (maybe, maybe not) lower than they should be. The run up wasn't Bush's doing, and the sell off wasn't his doing either. This recession has been one of the most comprehensive in our history, affecting every sector but health care, and has had many fathers, all of whom now refuse the paternity test. Which isn't a reason to bash Bush, or even Clinton, or Bush 41, but rather is a reason to bash ourselves for placing so much faith in government being so much smarter than we are collectively as individuals.

Just as an aside, Charlie...I think a major reason for high stock values that neither of you mentioned but should be considered is the asset bubble that has been created by keeping bond rates artificially low. It will have many major negative side effects once the bond market recovers some sanity beyond lower stock values. Federal borrowing costs are going to skyrocket. When? If I knew that date I'd be on the Forbes list of billionaires. But it will happen.

Bigger in Texas - funny, Jesus Christ was NEVER on a ballot I saw - for any office. Now why am I not surprised you're from Texas????

Ah, Jesus was never Pres so that is silly! You say and yes your mouth is great, your brain not so much! I am a Texan and frankly I find Bush and Perry both too embarrassing to claim. I just added you to that vaunted duo!

Blackcatwhitecat, You wrote:

"Now hold on folks, let us not forget that many history textbooks are now written in Texas."

I was born here in Texas and have lived here all my life. I just want to let you and the whole world know that WE don't like George W. Bush either. He was the worst President ever, with the worst Vice President EVER, along with the majority of his staff....

Randy - ah ha! You prove not EVERY Texan is an idiot!

yup, that's why your poppy cried like a little baby when he realized that his bush baby screwed up all your chances, Jeb, to become president...now if your poppy knew how baby bush f'd up everything he touched, don't you think historians, who tend to be pretty smart people, will see how dreadful the bushes were, especially the bush baby...thinking, intelligent folks simply don't want anymore of the bush crap in their lives...

I have this sneaking suspicion that history be kind to science. A President saying something like, "We should teach the controversy about evolution so that people will know what the controversy is about," or inviting a hack writer like Michael Crichton to the White House to discuss (what GWB termed the nonexistence of) global climate change, or having a very decent man as a science advisor who was forced, time and again, to do real damage control because of our Shrub in Chief's gaffes, is never going to be taken seriously by anyone in the future.

He was the worst President in history for giving the shadow government near free reign to stomp all over our rights.

Hi Randy,

I'm not sure what living in Texas has to do with having a valid opinion. Maybe your cerebral reply will enlighten me as to that answer. But Bush isn't even close to the worst. It sickens me that so many Americans, you are just one among many on this thread, know so little about our history. I wrote above a simplistic defense of Mr. Bush, simplistic because I am forced to debate simplistic people here, but it never the less applies. I guess if you had something on which to base your conclusion we might be able to actually discuss the matter, but as you present no facts, no evidence, then all we have is your opinion. In that light, then, it is James Buchanan that is easily, far and away, the worst president in American history.

Hi Amused,

Your very pretty face hides a very mean spirit I think. What a shame. I've never heard Crichton referred to as a "hack". Maybe you have something to explain why you'd say this about a very accomplished author? And I'm not sure what you mean by "shadow" government, or how it stepped all over your rights. I wouldn't argue that we became more free under Mr. Bush, but I am hard pressed to find how we lost any rights.

Still, assuming that you have a cogent argument in favor of your claim, would you not then argue that if that makes Mr. Bush the worst, then Mr. Obama must be (once he is gone from the WH) still worse than Mr. Bush? He has, after all, supported the claim that he and he alone can order the death of an American citizen without due process of law, no?

Put down the crack pipe Jeb. It has obviously given you brain damage if you think your brother is going to be remembered as anything but one of the worst presidents in our nation's history.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

Well, a history written by his fellow Neo-con scofflaws and criminals, sure.

But if George W. Bush is ever apprehended by one of the countries which has banned his entry or has standing warrants for his arrest on charges of war crimes, his treatment in the Hague at the International Court of Justice will not be so "kind."

Bush was at 34% approval when he left office, per Gallup

Way to cherry-pick your data!

CBSNews feb 11, 2009:

President Bush will leave office as one of the most unpopular departing presidents in history, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll showing Mr. Bush's final approval rating at 22 percent.

Seventy-three percent say they disapprove of the way Mr. Bush has handled his job as president over the last eight years.

Mr. Bush's final approval rating is the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago.

And, of course, you fail to mention that in previous Gallup polls, the number you cite is a huge improvement over what Bush saw throughout 2008:

However, the current 34% approval score is Bush's highest since January 2008, and a sharp improvement from the 25% recorded right before the November elections.

One has to wonder just what the hell would have improved the numbers so much? Perhaps a huge infusion of cash from Republican election committees? Just too late!

Baby Bush...i don't think history...will be this kind...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqg_rb59WYE

Molly Ivens is having a rollicking good laugh, wherever she may be. I enjoyed her expose of the Bush family in her book Shrub.

The thing of utmost importance to keep in mind is that we must wrest the House from the trickle-down, debt-defying faction. We must also improve our ration in the Senate, so that the automatic filibuster is no longer viable. Senator Reid caved on his oft-repeated promises to reform the filibuster, a very big disappointment to the left.

My God don't the Bush family understand what they did to our Country, we can't survive another and I'm Republican !

Roy Wilson's skreed is a classic example of how to lie with statistics. Pick out the statistics that appear to support your ideological position, and ignore the rest.

Hey Jan,

Anyone can claim to be anything on the internet, so your claim to be republican might be true, or it might not. But I'm not sure how it would matter in any case. Tell me what you think Bush 41 and 43 did to our country that was so bad? I wish they had been more conservative in a more or less libertarian vein, but they were instead fairly moderate. So help me out of this problem...If Bush 43 was so darn bad, then why has Mr. Obama pursued so many similar policies?

Rich, "... I am hard pressed to find how we lost any rights."

Patriot act.

Howdy Ed,

It's screed, btw, but who really cares? What statistic do you want to measure presidential performance by if not, in part, the numbers Roy posted? If the numbers are false then simply show how they are false. But if they are true, then doesn't the fact that those numbers seriously contradict the claims by most leftists here, like you, matter?

Hi ED,

Please, seriously, work with me on your claim. What in the USPA reduced your rights as an American citizen? My claim is nothing. You would claim...what? I do agree that it became easier to have a roving wiretap, but that isn't really an imposition of your rights, is it?

Nice to see the IDIOCRACY is alive and well....flocking to this story like flies to shiot.

My favorite...

I can't even fathom anyone outside of Texas and Florida that would even vote for another Bush. But then, you can always count on stupid people doing stupid things. God help the rest of the country.

That certainly explains how the Big p 'O' s was elected for his second term.

Perhaps brother Jeb will move to Crawford and the town will be bessed with two village idiots. On another point, Is there a brother Jethro?

As a Republican I can never vote for anyone who thinks Bush was a good President. He ran up the debt, increased the size of government drastically, expanded the police state, lied us into a war that was not necessary, was a neocon all the way around, and was dumb as a box of rocks.

Jeb just ended his campaign before it began. What a neocon delusional fool this man is.

WOW! The amount of uninformed idiots posting on this board is ASTONISHING! Seriously... This country is way over its quota of morons. Scary

yep that GW was an idiot....

A Bachelors from Yale and a Masters from Harvard...

I guess all alums from Yale and Harvard are idiots....

The truth is that as time goes by history will most likely be more kind the Bush the Obama, when you compare what each has done this far into their presidency compared to Obama Bush is starting to look like Lincoln, and Bush was not a good president. But when one looks at our national deficit Obama put us more in debt in his first two years then Bush did in 9, Obama has shown that he has no compunction towards throwing out civil rights out the door in the name of expediency, he has trampled on our Constitutional right to bear Arms, he has taken away our right to free speech if he is present, he has trampled on our religious freedom and now has taken it upon himself to not only be president but also judge, jury and executioner of Americans that he feels are enemies of the nation.

Once he steps out of office and no longer has the press covering for him then historians will start to peel back his layers of secrecy and will not write favorably. Sadly, I think he could have done great things but rather then unite he divided, instead of bringing peace and prosperity he attacked and set us on the path to the greatest period of unemployment rates and the longest recession in the history of this nation. Instead of accepting responsibility and working to fix what was wrong he never has taken responsibility and has blamed everyone for his own failures.

Yes, I think historians will end up one day judging him as the worst president in the history of this nation.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my brother'

Baaahahahaha.. As if.

Wish they'd change this awkward format. It's taken bypassing a hundred damn posts before I can get to say: PIGOTRY NAILED IT! several times, but I really like jebberish. That alone will doom any run He makes. Actually though, He strikes me as almost normal. He should probably be taken about as seriously as Joe Biden as a candidate. I like Joe Biden and I would vote for him. But if He got nominated, He would loose. Hillary will probably give us the best bet. That would make Her the second of two firsts.

Benton, please try to get your information from some place other than Fake News. President Obama has actually CUT the deficit by $200 billion. http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/federal_deficit_chart.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/. The deficit is now below $1 trillion for the first time in 5 years. Furthermore, the unemployment rate has now fallen to 7.7%, the lowest in 5 years as well. The FACT of the matter is that the national debt doubled under W from $5.5 trillion to $11 trillion. Fact: the reason that the debt and deficit have grown so rapidly is that W began TWO unfunded wars, one of which (Iraq) was unnecessary, illegal, and immoral, as well as an unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit AND an unfunded tax cut for the wealthiest in our society. President Obama has lowered W's unemployment rate, lowered W's deficit, ended the Iraq and Afghanistan wars begun by W, as well as provided healthcare insurance to all Americans. President Obama will be remembered as one of the greatest Presidents of all time. And, just in case you didn't get the memo: President Obama WON reelection with a 51% of the popular vote and 332 electoral votes. He became only the 4th person in the past 100 years to win a majority of the popular vote TWICE. His party picked up 2 seats in the Senate and 8 in the House, AND the Democrats received over a million more votes than the Rethuglicans; the only reason that the Democrats did not take control of the House was that the Rethuglican Tea Klux Klan members gerrymandered the Congressional districts to give themselves the advantage. Your side lost, making you a LOSER. Now, relax and enjoy here our GREAT President Barack Obama is taking us. We won. You lost. Now get over it!!!!

jan-1678944

What would it take to UNSEAL the Presidential Records, starting with George H.W. Bush, all the

way to "GW"'s term in office? I think that if that were to occur, before the 50 yr. span it was

supposed to cover, that Both of the BUSHES along with Darth Vader would be looking for a Cave to

hide in, somewhere in the Dakotas!! They would be high tailing it to the hills, because of what those

records would reveal and PROVE to the World. There would be no more debate, and the Bush's would

have wrecked the Republican Party to the point that no future candidates would EVER call themselves

"Republicans". I guess Jeb lives in a time warp of some kind, and the thought hasn't dawned on

him yet, WHY Romney LOST, in spite of all the money that was thrown at his Candidacy?

Both Presidents BUSH, were EMPLOYEES of the American Voter. Since when do Employees

SEAL their employment records from their bosses? I believe the American voter should

demand that those records BE UNSEALED so that we can truly evaluate their "performance" and

then, hold their toes to the fire, for the way they wrecked our economy, with (Bush Sr. ) busting

the back of the Unions, with his introduction of FREE TRADE? That cost us billions in Duties

and taxes, and allowed China to grow their economy at an insane rate of speed. It also

encouraged American Manufacturers to move their operations to Mexico and Canada, causing

MORE loss of jobs, and we should not be privileged to see the Performance Reviews and

Presidential records of either of these incompetents?

Perhaps we should re-call the Secret Service they are protected by, and cut their "retirement

checks" in half? Ban them from public speaking at a profit, forbid them to write memoirs

and take their passports, so that they can't leave town and disappear, but force them to face

those who voted for them, day after day after day after day! Suitable punishment. If they go

to Hyannisport, or Cape Cod, it should be at their own expense, if they need "security guards"

I'm sure Dick Cheney will provide them with Haliburton's Contractors, "for a price".

History will not be "kind" to Dubya. He was the LAMEST President who ever BOUGHT the

Presidency. No more Bushwhackers, in ANY form of Government, unless they want to work as

Sanitation Engineers on their local trash trucks in Texas.

I agree with Jeb. History will say that G W was retarded and couldn't help himself.

Vince,

Where did you learn simple math, the liberal creative accounting office? As for the national deficit, have you missed it out or are you forgetting that our deficit was raised a total of 4.8 trillion under Bush, and that is counting in the 1 trillion stimulus money Obama asked for and had waiting for him when he took office.

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/25/133211508/the-weekly-standard-obama-vs-bush-on-debt

http://factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/

Also, if we are going to talk about unfunded wars, where do you think Obama is getting his funds for the wars while he has been president? The same place Bush got it from, they both borrowed it.

As for loosing the election, I am not a republican, I am independent, so in my view we all lost. To take a president who could not run on his record, so he did the only thing he could, he made it about race. This president has done more to harm racial relations then the last 10 presidents by allowing every disagreement to be pushed out in a racist light so in the end all being called a racist means is you just do not agree with the this useless presidents policies.

Oh, and your wonderful Obama care, if it was so great then why was it pushed forward with a overwhelming majority of Americans against it. It was promised by the president not to be a tax hike, and then he presented it to the supreme court as a tax hike. Turns out to be the largest Tax Hike in the history of this nation.

And lowering Bush's employment rate, you really might wish to check on that. So far to this point Obama still has a net loss in non government jobs. The only reason Obama has had any positive job reports is because he is has grown the size of the government and put us more in debt supporting a bloated government. If you look at the figures Obama has seen a total of 2.5 million jobs lost during his presidency compared to just to spout out figures without actually looking at the overall facts does nothing but show that you are misrepresenting the facts.

And could you please explain how the Tea Party actually changed the election and illegally won more seats in congress. I will be waiting for a link to the facts, or are you going to do what all Liberals do when confronted with facts? Attack and turn attention from the facts.

By your comments on Obama being the greatest president in history tells me you must be from a state where pot is legal because only someone delusional would ever make such a stupid statement. Face it, if he had not played the race card and promised free things he would have never had a chance with the election. Today we have the people that screamed the loudest of racism turn around and elect not because of record (Obama has no good record), but voted according to race. If one day America wakes up they might vote for a candidate outside of either party instead of voting for another idiot who will lead us further to our death as a nation.

yep that GW was an idiot....

A Bachelors from Yale and a Masters from Harvard...

I guess all alums from Yale and Harvard are idiots....

1. Rich kids go to college more

2. He was a student

3. He was male cheerleader, not a cowboy...he's not even from Texas

4. Do you realize that any idiot can go to college? Literally anyone. To get a C average is hardly a sign of high intelligence.

5. Anyone with any ability to judge body language and speech patterns realized the man wasn't bright. He made more gaffes than Joe Biden.

An I'm a Republican...so imagine what I'd say about the neocon liar had I been a Democrat.

A big govt neocon does not seem worth defending....unless you too are an idiot/big govt neocon. Acting like Bush was smart is like acting like Obama hates taxes.

ROY WILSON-336103

"So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now."

Historians ignore the rhetoric and look at the record, and in that regard, G W Bush has a very good record;

Yes, if you wrote history, Roy, Bush would appear to have the numbers... and, after all, it's the numbers we remember, right? BTW, what are Eisenhower's numbers? What about Nixon? I don't know, but if we remember Presidents by what you say, we should know them. But no, presidents are remembered for many things... but usually NOT the numbers.

Your fond memories of Bush left out the financials he left us... which would be like remembering Nixon without including his disgraceful departure.

Bush will be remembered as a pawn, as the major contributor to our decades-long debt, as the liar that started one of the largest false wars in our history, as the prolonger of the longest war in our history that took his eye off the ball, and as the provider of the worst economy since the Great Depression.

Your numbers will not even merit a mention.

Tbenton

Vince, Where did you learn simple math, the liberal creative accounting office? As for the national deficit, have you missed it out or are you forgetting that our deficit was raised a total of 4.8 trillion under Bush, and that is counting in the 1 trillion stimulus money Obama asked for and had waiting for him when he took office.

Ahhh... first the insult, then the power of omission, then the lies and race card as your assault. The only merit to your post is that it reminds us that you are but a vanishing breed.

Let's do some math... not "Liberal" math or neocon math, just math.

Bush and his Vice President, "deficits don't matter" Cheney, started two wars, created Homeland Security, and signed into law Medicaid, WITHOUT FUNDING A THING. What that created was a $500 Billion deficit that would take decades to cover regardless of who was president. Then, blame him or not, Bush left us with a collapsed economy that removed another $500 Billion in annual revenue and virtually wiped out what was left of the middle class, which made an unstoppable $1 Trillion a year deficit FOR WHOEVER WAS NEXT IN LINE... and this does NOT include any new spending required to support all the unfortunate souls he created or to recover the crap economy he handed us.

Do a little more math and tell me exactly how McCain or Romney or any other flat-headed Republican president would have done it better. Exactly HOW would they have balanced the budget, supported the new-found poor, ended the wars, and recovered this economy.

Please use your superior math and tell us how it's done.

If Bush had made "mistakes" and the economy went down, he might eventually be forgiven. But, they where not mistakes, it was deliberate sabotage of the middle class to appease china and the foundation families who own the corporations. Not only;y will we not forgive him, but i'm betting god wont either.

Even my hard right wing, neighbor won't talk politics and Bush anymore. even he is disgusted with the Bush.

LMarkT

I think your forgetting that this SOCIALIST president has the trade deficit down 20%, the dow is 14k from Bush's 7k, unemployment is down to 7.7%, and we are drilling more oil in America then ever before, without polluting Alaska. that dam socialist is un doing everything Bush created. And now kids will be able to have medical care. Dam liberals lol

Jebberish

Sean Hannity will write this Hannitized history,

^^^^^^sheer brilliance^^^^^^

*applause*

ED-2874315 "Roy Wilson's skreed is a classic example of how to lie with statistics. Pick out the statistics that appear to support your ideological position, and ignore the rest."

So you think that OVERALL economic growth, OVERALL Deficits and OVERALL job creation are just some meaningless cherry picked statistics?

So what would YOU pick as really significant 'statistics' to gauge a President's performance - the number of Nobel Peace Prizes awarded for a speech, or perhaps Obama's average unemployment rate, which has been the highest since the Great Depression in the 1930s, or perhaps the increase in the Debt, which has been the highest in our history?

177 1rst reply posts and only 5 in support of Bush and his disater of a Presidency.

Go ahead Jeb please run, It will put the Republican party back another 8 years.

Hi george pauljohn,

If Mr. Obama had done the things you claim then he'd be less bad. Mr. Obama hasn't lowered our trade deficit. Probably the single biggest domestic reason for this is Ben Bernanke devaluing the dollar. But the largest total reason has been that Americans are in financial distress (not all, just the vast majority) and aren't buying as much as they used to. If you want to claim Mr. Obama is responsible for this failure, well go ahead, but I'd still say you are wrong.

The DOW is above 14k, and from lows below 7k, but again this isn't Mr. Obama's doing. I'm not sure how it matters much anyhow except to say that when you credit (or blame) a single person for all things good (or bad) then you invariably reduce yourself to little more than serf status. No, in the case of the DOW it wildly oversold during the meltdown as there was massive uncertainty about asset values. Once that was better understood the DOW rapidly regained most of its lost value. Mr. Obama had no effect on decreasing uncertainty, and instead did things to the opposite which prevented the DOW from fully recovering sooner. But the run up now is for three reasons: Bond yields are zip, Fed money printing is on full tilt, and firms are earning record profits--most from overseas. If you knew anything about finance, business, or economics, I think we could actually debate these issues with better effect. But I think that everything I just wrote zoomed over your head.

The unemployment rate IS down, but the real unemployment rate remains historically high at more than 14%. Frankly, it would be a great sign for the economy to see an increasing (short term anyhow) rate as it would indicate more people entering the job market looking for work. What we need to stop is what continues to happen: More people, month after month, leave the workforce compared to the number of people who get jobs. This is bad no matter you you want to try to spin it. Is this Mr. Obama's doing too?

Oil production IS up, and it's up on private land. On public land drilling permits and oil leases are way DOWN. Mr. Obama has considerable control over public land, not private land. So you can't credit him with the increase in production since he's done what he can to oppose it.

Kids have been able to have medical care for decades. Who pays the bill was the question.

On balance, sir, you fail.

NO! You missed the point. History WILL be kind to Bush. It will record his as a total disaster for the country and the world but not AS BAD a total disaster as he really was. Now THAT'S BEING KIND!

Roy,

When you give the total numbers while leaving out very important factors like inflation and the increase in population, or even the dot com crash.

Use those same statistics for Bush43 and compare them to Reagan and you will see what a lousy President Reagan was.( which one redistributed the wealth upwards more?)

We can thank W, for the greatest recession since the 1930s. That one took 10 years and a world war to get out of. If we are lucky the damage W, caused will be fixed in 8 yrs. If the Republicans would help to fix it instead of obstructing, delaying or watrering down every effort, it might have been fixed in 6 years.

To be fair, it was not ENTIRELY GWB's fault that the financial crisis occurred. The Gramm Leach Blighley Act (aka de-fanging of glass steagal) opened the door for the banks to make bets with people's nest eggs by eliminating the boundary between commercial and investment banks. This happened under Clinton but was pushed by the Grand O'le Plutocrat party's masters. Bush/Paulson did allow Treasury & the FedRB to accept the flawed risk models the banks pushed which reduced the amount of reserves to be used to hedge against bad investments. This opened the door for larger investments in CDO & CDS without having to worry about covering them in the event of a failure.

Just think!

If no politician was ever allowed to run for reelection, we would have been spared a double dose of bu@!$%#'s BS.

Notliborcon,

True he was certainly not solely responsible. He did, however personally encourage everyone to buy a house, and keep spending, otherwise the terrorists win. He also gave away trillions in tax breaks, mostly to the rich, that could otherwise have been used to soften the crash. Money that had to be borrowed. A fiscal conservative would have left taxes where they were under Clinton and used the surplus to pay down the debt.

History will view the Iraq war as the single greatest debacle in the history of US foreign policy.

The only reason it is not yet acknowledged as such is because "almost" 50% of the country is still in denial.

1. Rich kids go to college more

2. He was a student

3. He was male cheerleader, not a cowboy...he's not even from Texas

4. Do you realize that any idiot can go to college? Literally anyone. To get a C average is hardly a sign of high intelligence.

5. Anyone with any ability to judge body language and speech patterns realized the man wasn't bright. He made more gaffes than Joe Biden.

An I'm a Republican...so imagine what I'd say about the neocon liar had I been a Democrat.

A big govt neocon does not seem worth defending....unless you too are an idiot/big govt neocon. Acting like Bush was smart is like acting like Obama hates taxes.

???????????????????????

And why do you mention in every post you make that you are a Republican. Do you actually believe that anyone here believes you actually are?

Hi ED,

It's becoming routine for me to read your posts and wonder where your teachers are now so that we might be able to slap them for passing you on. You are right that Bush wanted people to buy their own homes. This to you might be some sort of grand failure on his part, but Mr. Obama, and every president before Mr. Bush to at least the post-WW2 era wants everyone to be able to buy their own home too. The same is true with personal spending. But let's play your game out...You name the president you think most opposes (or conversely least favors) home ownership and personal spending. Cue crickets...

You are on to something but I've got little confidence you have a clue as to what it is. WE have in our country created, dating back at least 100 years, a financial system which eschews fundamental principles of economics in favor of encouragements and incentives from the government to help induce people to "do the right thing". It was, in every case, the wrong thing to do. Whether it was tax deductions for home loan mortgages, or first time buy credits, or FHA, Fannie, and Freddie, the goal has been to cause people to do something that left to their own devices would not at the margins have created so much demand.

In an ever growing population model this might make sense. Or at least it won't be revealed for the bubble-creating disaster that it is. If population continued to grow at baby boom, or baby boomlet, levels, then increasing demand would continue to exist and we could hide our economic conceit from reality far longer. It hasn't worked out that way, of course, and our population growth today comes entirely from immigration, much of which is illegal, and so those demand curves can't be maintained. And as it began to unravel our government, because it is populated by such wise men--elected or not--decided that the smart thing to do was not to admit that reality had caught up to us. No, the smart thing was to create yet more false demand by putting into place 100% (or more) loan to value ratios and the like.

Where Bush failed was in not convincing enough people, obviously people of your intellectual level, that reforms were desperately needed. It was because of this lack of support that Democrats in Congress flat refused to enact any reforms which Bush proposed which would have had a modest impact on the size of the inflating bubble. For his effort he was called racist, dumb, and so on. Kind of like today. And from the same people that you elect, and re-elect, and who got it all entirely wrong.

Partly because no one can accurately predict the future it all makes sense that he would be rejected. But, and this is where I would really love one of you leftists here who continue to call him the worst, the dumbest, etc...Since Bush was right about the bubble, and you and all the people you support were wrong, and the bubble bursting is what caused the financial meltdown, don't you think it is even possible that you have misplaced your ire? In other words, could you better find the cause of our troubles in a mirror?

The next BUSH in the Whitehouse will be HILLARY!!!

"So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now." - Jeb Bush.

Sophistry raised to its highest (or perhaps more correctly, lowest) form.

TO: nzpete who wrote:

"And yet, BHO is even worse!"

No, he's not. That's an empty allegation with no explanation why anyone with a brain would say something like that which is a complete lie.

You think providing the American People with affordable health care, and trying to rescue American Families that lost their homes and their jobs is worse than being attacked by terrorists, being lied into war, for forcing a vibrant nation into a State of Depression?

Well, there's another perfectly good reason why Republicans shouldn't be in the White House, extremely poor reasoning.

Hi American Girl,

Just so I get your leftists right...In the above rants about GWB there is virtually nothing of substance to prove the conclusion that he is the worst president ever. Yet when ONE person simply argues that BHO is worse your reply is that it's an empty allegation and a complete lie? Um, so what are all the allegations about Bush 43 if not empty allegations and complete lies?

But I really do love your defense of Mr. Obama. You actually think that Obamacare has made health care more affordable for the American people? Sorry, I just shot Coca Cola out my nose from laughing so hard. No, Obamacare hasn't reduced the cost of health care in the USA. If you failed to notice then I should remind you that just today it was reported that health care costs for younger people will increase between 145% and 203% because of Obamacare. Maybe Mr. Obama cares so much that it SHOULD cost most everyone more, and far more, for health care. Yay Obama!

And what rescue of Americans who lost their homes? The programs you mention are abject failures no matter how you measure them. They've "helped" a tiny fraction of the people Mr. Obama claimed they would help, and for many of those "helped" they lost their homes anyhow. But the cost of all this "helping" is more than the combined savings of the people being "helped". At this rate we will help ourselves right into national bankruptcy.

It's hard to measure being atacked by terrorists to the things Mr. Obama has done so poorly, but I don't see how anyone can blame Mr. Bush for the attack. An attack that was years in the making, and had, at least at the time, no way to identify the when, where, or how. We knew the who and the why. But that's not much help in stopping people intent on killing you. And no one was lied into war, unless you think that Bush, with his evil warmaking machine in Crawford, was able to get the vast majority of Democrats to front those lies in the several years PRIOR to Bush's election. That would be quite a feat, you know? But then it would go hard against the left's rather INSANE claim that Bush is stupid. I mean, to cajole hundreds of elected Dems into setting up the stage for a later war--5 or 6 years later too--without them having a clue about it would take quite an intellect.

As for your last laughable claim about Bush, a president I do not think on balance was positive for the USA, but who is hardly as bad as you leftists claim, I think you should ask yourself just how overspending could cause such a massive recession when a republican does it, but when even more overspending is done by a democrat it can only lead to nirvana.

It's isn't that you utilize poor logic or reasoning, it is that you utilize none.

Rich, President Obama is popular because more Americans approve of him than don't. Bush is unpopular because Americans (except for member's of W's family and TPers) remember what a disaster he was.

"So my guess is that history will be kind to my brother, the further out you get from this and the more people compare his tenure to what's going on now."

i thought i heard somewhere that, out of all the bushes, jeb was the smart one.

so much for that theory, i guess.

George W Bush is and will always be the greatest presidential comedian of all time. For a evening of absolutely side-splitting laughter, just watch his non-syndicated re-runs on You Tube. My God is he hilarious!

I for one would really like to see the GOP nominate Jeb for president in 2016. That would be the Cherry on top.

Jeb Bush: 'History will be kind to my idiot brother'

Hi Jamie,

I think you are in the main correct. But I'm not sure anyone is arguing that there aren't varying perceptions of presidents. They question is why. And, so far, not a single leftist who has been asked to explain the why of their conclusion has been able to. Bad things happened under President Bush, just as bad things happened under every president, including this one. The question is how that president is responsible for that bad thing you want to blame him for.

In the case of Mr. Bush, the left wants to blame him, generally, for four things: Loss of liberty (which frankly is shocking given the same people's support for Mr. Obama who actually HAS decreased your liberty), two wars which are either illegal or unfunded or both, a failing economy, and the attack on 911. In reverse order I can see no way to blame Bush for 911 given that it was in the makings for at least 5 years and he was president for 8 months.

The economy failed for a massive reason which Bush had nothing to do with creating, and which he actually sought to reform (but was stymied by Congressional Democrats). But it DID happen while he was president. So should we blame the policies put into place which lef to the failure, or blame the person who was president who tried unsuccessfully to lessen the damage before it occurred?

Both wars were legal in the sense that Congress approved them and funded them. What Albania, or Slovenia, or any other nation might think is legally irrelevant since there is no legal conclusion the wars were illegal. I can easily prove within standing UN resolutions and The Geneva Conventions that both wars were legal, but my opinion is as valid as anyone elses. The fact remains that Congress, including Democrats, voted in favor of authorizing and funding the wars.

When asked about losing liberty, to a person, a leftist has in every case responded by simply saying "Patriot Act". Could it be that this is the kind of myth I think it is? I mean, if it weren't, then an American so concerned about their liberty--but again regales in Mr. Obama's outright usurpation of it (nothing hypocritical here, is there?)--ought to be able to give a single example of how their liberty, or how an American's liberty, was reduced under Mr. Bush. Again...cue crickets.

Rich,

I love your term "leftists" it conjures images of Castro, Chavez and Guevara. Proud of your divisive nature.

First and foremost, Clinton admin left them reports EXPLICITLY stating that Al Qaeda was "determined to strike in US". He received this information on Aug 6th 2001 in a presidential security briefing and, according to the 9/11 commission, completely ignored it.
Obama killed OBL and no terrorist attack has happened on his watch.

Bush endangered ALL US servicemen by having John Yoo write and jay Bysbee sign "enhanced interrogation" (nice euphemism for TORTURE) legal documents.
Obama has stated unequivocally that the US will no longer follow the Bush torture doctrine.

Bush basically rendered the 4th amendment null and void by allowing warrantless wiretapping.
Obama has FAILED and continued this BS.

The fiscal crisis/housing bubble was not entirely Bush's fault but he certainly helped it along. In 1999, the Gramm Leach Blighley act (ALL Grand O'le Plutocrats) ripped down the regulatory wall separating commercial and investment banks thus opening the door for the financial crisis. The Bush admin's Sec of treasury, paul oniell, allowed the bank's FAULTY risk analysis models to dictate reserve requirements thus allowing them to over-extend themselves and had a direct impact on the severity of the crash. In addition, Bush did NOT pay for Afghanistan or Iraq. First time in US history that during a time of war taxes were decreased. Bush tax cuts are one of the largest contributors to the debt ( do not conflate debt with deficit). Billions of taxpayer dollars wasted in Iraq under the Bush regime.

Iraq was a war of choice that Bush and his puppet masters lied the Congress and American people into. Niger yellowcake (My condolensces to joe Wilson and Plame), aluminum tubes, WMDs, "curveball", Rumsfeld's "special intelligence group" which cherry picked intelligence to get the results they wanted which was condemned by the Pentagon counterintelligence service. The use of unsubstantiated intelligence which was in direct contravention to what the main US intelligence agencies were reporting.

Bush WAS and should always be considered a FAILURE of the highest magnitude.... PERIOD.

Obama is failing the American people by his continued use of warrantless wiretapping, the NDAA, failure to prosecute ANY banksters and continuing the "revolving door" policies of previous administrations. He is not perfect but he is better than Bush by a factor of 10.

@Rich,

"In the above rants about GWB there is virtually nothing of substance to prove the conclusion that he is the worst president ever."

In Response, the GWB (administration) lied and mislead the United States into an unnecessary war that resulted in the death of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

-Unnecessary DEATH of AMERICAN SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN-

Do you really need anything else to conclude that he is the worst president ever???

I agree Bush will go done as one of the worst ever, but I believe Obama will go down as even worse.