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The president and the First Lady dined at the White House with former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton last week, the White House confirmed Friday.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest characterized the March 1 get-together as a “private dinner” but declined to offer further details about what was discussed.
While Obama’s former presidential rival Hillary Clinton has been taking time out of the spotlight after her departure from Foggy Bottom, former president Bill Clinton made headlines this morning with an op-ed advocating for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage act, which he signed in 1996.
The dinner was first reported by POLITICO.
This story was originally published on Fri Mar 8, 2013 1:18 PM EST
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The inevitable coronation of Hillary ... she will smash glass ceilings. The world will be a better place.
WOW...
two smartest families, two power couples (one former first family, one current First Family)...
WOW..
some dinner...cooked by bright liberal fire.
A torch has been passed on to the next generation.
In Obama We Trust.
What happened to the sequester? Didn't Obama lose the chef and the waiters?
Hey, Gil-2872519
Now I know why the GOP wanted a sequester! So hard-working people will lose their jobs. I thought Boehner promised to created jobs instead of forcing a sequester to cause job losses.
The North Korean military called and even they think that's over the top.
hey, DingleB
the chubby Gangnam Dude called?
Obamas are partying? This looked like a normal dinner except it is between current and former president and may be they talked about something important than what kids are planning for spring break!
You're getting your silly, chubby dudes crossed.
It was more than likely a briefing to Hillary from two of the greatest liars this country has ever seen. One being impeached for telling lies and the other with his ongoing litany of blame everyone but himself. I can imagine the coaching going on around the dinner table. I'll bet it wasn't pork loin.
I can hear Hillary cackle as Bill was telling her to deny everything followed up by Obama saying it's never your fault.
Don't get me wrong... I'm sure they had their serious intentions too. How best to keep the government growing, how to spend the most amount of money at taxpayers expense, how to increase budgets and taxes at the same time... and how to eliminate republicans from any sort of power. You know, nice light talk amongst friends. For dessert they shared some baked Alaska while rolling on the floor laughing that Sarah Palin was taken out by color over gender. Contingency plans were made to eliminate any attempt by republicans to offer up an African American in 2016 by shifting the name calling to misogyny instead of racist. They weren't sure what to do if the republicans offered up an African American female though.
WOW! I'm speechless!
Hey, Lil Michelle (#1.9)
Well, Lil Michele, Get this from me, Pigtry: you have the right to remain silent, anything you say.....
Oh Lil, strip of your panties and let you lips speak. Extend the frist Amendment.
this is a great day
Just getting ready for the 2016 election.
And folks were thinking the $ 500,000 per person was going towards Mr. Obama's agenda. It will be redirected to the Clinton "WAR" chest.
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Hillary bumper sticker:
or,
Oh NOOOOO!! The Obama's and the Clintons broke the bread!!! Now that's just one MORE thing the repugnikkkan wunderkins will have to fix once they take 'Merka back!!...
bcwc -- so biden is toast? probably a good thing.
other than being eight years older what does hil bring this time that she didn't have last time? she was the front-runner until the fear of racism entered the democrat voter mindset and the unproven, inexperienced junior senator from illinois beat her courtesy of the left tossing (pushing) her under the bus.
what if another man of color - say castro - enters the scene, with the hispanics going for him (true to the identity politics of the left) ole hil will again be looking at the familiar scene from underneath?
Dingle
You have to admit just as Kim is North Korea's greatest golfer/bowler/wrestler..., Obama is America's best basketball player, no matter what Lebron or the N. Korean brass say.
BTW: the Haitians are STILL LIVING IN TENTS.
Yellowdog-Mark D
Maybe not the best, but Obama would definately dunk all over Lil' Kim.
Two on two, first to 20 points, Obama & Woody Harrelson school Kim Jong number Un and Rodman every time.
Mark said:
Actually I'm way better at basketball than the President. I can do dunks that I've still never seen an NBA player do. Granted...I'm dunking on my son's Nerf hoop that hangs in the doorway...but still, call me when Blake Griffin bounces the ball off a ceiling fan, a light fixture and does a 360 dunk over Matchbox cars! ;-)
Imagine that, the Obamas and Clintons dining in the White House. I'm surprised the news didn't get out sooner. Actually, that is nice. Mrs. Clinton did a great job as Sec of State; former Pres Clinton was a great help in getting President Obama re-elected. I'm glad to see a friendship forming between the two families.
Ido, Haiti is NOT a US territory; we send volunteers, aid and money but we can't fix the country for them. Your effort to poke at President Clinton ignores that President George W. Bush was part of the team.
Scumbag Bill probably told Barack to at least look like he is trying to work with the republicans. I think I now understand why he invited the repugs to dinner. It's all for show folks. All to remain in power while not doing sh*t for the average American.
@edgarw,
You are getting your greatest liars mixed up. Have you forgotten "Mission Accomplished" Shrub? Or "No, I wasn't drunk when I shot that guy in the face." Chaneystein?
Or were they just stupid?
BigJeff
Way to tell him.
How pathetic can a liberal get? You know that the biggest liar to ever to occupy the White House was scumbag Bill Clinton. I often wondered why the feminists didn't throw that scumbag under the bus for sending his wife out to lie for him. Do you think she knew she was lying? I do.
Big Jeff - I guess it's all about proportion and what is pertinent. Since Bush didn't put the "Mission Accomplished" sign up... and he just happened to be there... you are free to call that a lie all you want, just don't let the facts get in the way of your perceptions. I have no excuse for Cheney in shooting someone... he has to answer for that but I'm sad to see how terribly it effected your life.
It's funny you bring up two things about those you oppose but fail to recognize the lies and deceptions of those you are in favor of. I imagine you are one of those people who completely ignore any and all of Obama's deceptions as if he isn't speaking them at all. Selective posturing is the cousin of hypocracy.
Jody you mean George H.W. Bush, don't you?
BigJeff - funny thing about Republican's memories - they have none. They quickly forget the lies of Bush/Cheney and make up lies for Obama. When you deal with Lil Michelle (who has thankfully declared she's speechless); edgarw and JH - you'll just get more lies and garbage.
They know Republicans have absolutely NOTHING to offer so they are relegated to making up lies and spewing their ongoing hatred of anything Obama.
It's truly pathetic - but it's all they have!
Hey Ido, noticed in your link that it says clinton.bush.haiti so your bumper sticker needs a rewrite.
edgarw, no, I mean George W. Bush; President Obama asked both Clinton and Bush 43 to run the operation. You're thinking of the Tsunami relief effort in Asia where it was Clinton and Bush 41; that disaster occurred when Bush 41 was still president. As for Haiti, who can forget the video of George W. shaking hands with a Haitian then wiping his hand on the back of Clinton's shirt as if he might catch something.
Seeking Sanity jumps on board with his usual banter about how every conservative poster lies about everything. Talk about a broken record. Insanity completely ignores any and all of the lies of Obama... his only response is to blame republicans for lying about Obama's lies. Let's see... lying about lies about lying about lies about lying about lies.... sounds to me like Insanity is stuck in a whirlpool... no wonder he's insane.
Edgar,
I was just bringing up the two funniest. Bush standing in front of that sign. Still cracks me up, but if you think he didn't know it was there or that he didn't want his image associated with that banner, you really are delusional. Chaney shot that guy and nobody called any EMS or law enforcement until the next morning? Just saying...
I don't have the stamina to go over all of the lies that little stupid man put out. Weapons of Mass Distruction? Again, he was lying or he was very, very stupid. I'm on the fence.
I also don't have the desire to try to change your mind about why you wold be better off being a liberal, there Old Dog.
Our government has taken on a culture of litigation. There's a reason most people don't like most lawyers. Their intent is not to define or discover the truth, but to pick a side and fight like hell to stubbornly stay there. That is exactly how our prestigeous leaders in Congress act.
We posters have unfortunately adopted the same culture. Your guy (or cause) sucks; mine will solve all the world's problems.
That's your perception. I find it humorous. I've done similar things as an act of humor... Seeing as how you probably don't have much of a sense of humor, I can understand your perception. What it boils down to is no matter what anyone does as long as there's an R behind his name is disgusting to you. That sounds like mental instability... Hatred isn't healthy Jody.
Poor little edgarw - can't stand having the truth told about him and his fellow posters - and by a woman no less. I know that really ticks you off - being put down so well and so often by a woman! But, continue with your little tantrum - it's what we've come to expect of you! Nothing more - just the same old tired spewing that you do sooooo well!
Big Jeff - Pontificate to someone else. I'm not interested in your perceptions of what you think are lies and what are not lies. I wouldn't become a liberal if your life depended on it... sorry, dem's the breaks. To me being liberal involves a certain type of bondage, one I don't want ruling over my life. I cannot turn my favor over to a politician. Liberals have done it without question. Their dedication to Obama is unbelievable. I won't risk my thought on being controlled while liberals do it all the time. Obama says it, liberals believe it and to them that's the end of the story. No can do! When has liberalism solved anything without creating at least 10 more problems to go along with it?
I wonder if they are going to have Pork on the Menu, "Wink-Wink" !!!
THAT EXPLAINS IT!!!!!!! Not only are you insane, you are an insane woman! Finally the truth comes out! Probably a man hater as well! Must be some guy came along, saw your insanity and left you high and dry... poor guy... having to endure the likes of you... Bet you think you are pretty too... I'll bet you are a piece of work, hateful and wondering why no one wants to spend time with you... prove me wrong.. for as much hatred as you spread on these boards, I have my reasoning. Interesting... and now it's bye bye time Insanity... I wouldn't want you to think my message is any way confused with wooing you.
seaskip - uh oh - pigotry has gone into hiding!
edgarw - see there you go doing it again. You post like a little boy having a tantrum who needs to throw out any foolishness he can. You really are a pathetic little excuse for a man.
No, my man is actually a MAN - not a little boy who is insecure as every post shows you to be. And, don't worry - I wouldn't want a little manchild wooing me. I prefer a true MAN - something you'll aspire to be but never attain!
Seeking Sanity - keep seeking you really need some
You always claim that everyone is a liar. Please be specific about the lies that are being told. You are as hate filled and full of BS as horses ass Mr. Ed Schultz. In fact I bet you are one of the few hundred liberals that watch his assinine show. If anyone ia a liar it is horses ass Mr. Ed. I heard the edited 911 tape of Zimmerman on his show first. Then he sat back and watched someone else get fired for it. He is a damn liar. But you just keep believing him, and you'll just have to seeking sanity. But you will never find it on MSNBC in the evening. Quit being such a pathetic little woman. Do you ever have anything to offer in a conversation besides calling the other side liars and other assorted names? Pathetic litlle human debris that you are. (just thought I'd try your way)
So Edger, wiping ones dirty hand on your shirt would be funny to you?
Edgar,
If you don't like what I have to write, unplug your computer, open the curtains in your mom's basement and go for a walk.
BTW, most people are poking fun at you, and YOU are the one replying with anger and hatred. That stale air in the basement and the fabric softener your mom uses must be killing your brain.
Really, go take a walk.
How much are all these dinners costin us?
Only an incompetent, pathetic woman hides behind the glass ceiling argument. Most of the women I know would laugh at you for even suggesting there is one.
Jody: I appreciate your concern about George Bush having wiped his hand on the back of Bill Clinton's shirt, but let me assure you, Bill Clinton has had worse on his shirt before. And yes, it makes me tingle too that the two families are establishing a connection. Bill stands for so many wonderful things--womanizing, victimizing a young female intern, lying under oath--hopefully the Obama's will recommend his heritage to the American people.
Do you think Rand Paul will filibuster President Obama dinner because the White House staff removed Reagan's Jelly beams ???
Look at it this way..its the guys house (for 4 more years)..he invites who he wants for dinner..you do!
JH - again deflecting since you have nothing else to offer. I never watch Ed Schultz but apparently you're enamored with him.
And, pathetic little human debris is an apt description of you! Thank you for stating it so well for me!
honestdebate - President Obama - as all President's - has an entertainment budget. My guess is the dinner came from their. If not, it came out of their own funds as their nightly meals do.
Oh, and as a female executive - you are lying to yourself if you say there is no glass ceiling. And, no female executive would EVER say what you've posted!
Mike - calling Monica Lewinsky a victim is like saying the shooter in Aurora was a victim. She had already carried on an affair with her married profesor and, when he tried to call it off, followed him to Iowa. Then, when she went to work for the White House she told everyone she was going after the President. That is NO ONE's idea of a victim - unless they have to lie to make a point.
Seeking Sanity - please keep trying, you really ned some
So Bill Clinton was the victim?????? PATHETIC!!! The so-called most powerful man in the world, the President of the United States of America, was a victim of some whore? That is priceless, could only come out of the head of some totally blind insane (lacking sanity) person. Keep seeking clown.
I didn't deflect anything. In fact I asked you to to be specific about what lies you say I spew. Talk about deflecting.
from there - not their.
JH - nowhere in my post did I say Bill Clinton was a victim. Please have an intelligent person read, then explain what I posted since reading comprehension is clearly not your strong point.
They were both consenting adults - no victim involved.
Wow - you really get rattled when someone calls you out for being so ridiculous, don't you! Totally pathetic!
Jody, Iowa......"Ido, Haiti is NOT a US territory; we send volunteers, aid and money but we can't fix the country for them. Your effort to poke at President Clinton ignores that President George W. Bush was part of the team."
Duuuuh, never said Haiti was a U.S. TERRORITY.
Not too much of an effort to find out Billy is leading the charge for DISTRIBUTION OF HAITIAN FUNDS provided by the U.S.:
There are only 500,000 Haitians currently living in TENTS. Great job, Mr. Clinton:
Again, Haitians are still living in TENTS. So chaulk one up for Mr. Clinton's non-peformance. Just follow the money.
I just get puzzled when someone calls me a liar and can't say what I am lying about.
LOL, like anyone believes that. You are about as educated as the average sock.
honestdebate - you posted nothing - period. Do I care what someone like you thinks? Not hardly! Try again!
2 cows dining with 2 pigs sounds about right.
Seeking, you spend your whole day every day on MSNBC, we all know you are lying about being an exec. You also hate business as much as that socialist Feisty, so give us a break.
edgar
How about Democracy?
....Or are you saying there were 10 problems created with that? Nevermind, the 10 were probably worth it, probably ;- )
Reading comprehension is lacking here today isn't it?
When did Seeking say anything about being an exec?
honestdebate - too bad you are so clueless. Again, I don't care what you believe. I work, do well, and just seem to throw men like you into a tizzy since you clearly know nothing. And, totally love business since that is how I make my money. Sorry loser - wrong again!
Dottie's girl - again, Dottie would be humiliated that her daughter is you!
SmBusOwner - actually I said it and am considered an executive. Luckily I make my own hours so - some days - I spend more time on here than I should. Other days - like this morning and a lot of this week - I'm on and off as work permits!
Again, LOL. Like a janitor is an engineer.
Smbus, Apparently reading comprehension is a little too difficult for you. How do you feel now? Stupid as usual I assume.
honestdebate - there is nothing honest about you and "debating" is far beyond your comprehension.
SmBus - besides my work I also sit on two Boards. Actually that may be the part I like best! Have a great evening and weekend. And, ignore "dishonestdebate" since he's incapable of debating anything! Plus, clearly he is incapable of an original thought since he had to copy most of my post! LOL!
Sanity, an executive?? How much of lie is that?? Good grief... Nice try liar...
LOL seeking, whatever makes you feel better about your lies.
seeking -- do you often speak to your fellow board members in the same manner you display here or is this anonymous thing give you the power you need?
Don't you all know that ss was an exceptional 4th grader? Can't you tell from her persistent name-calling posts that she is very well-educated? She is in possession of more 4-letter words than anyone on this system.
Show a little respect (She does sometime miss her medications, but no one is perfect).
Funny to read that Bubba Clinton now wants to change his mind on marriage. If Clinton was a Republican all the liberals on this site would be screaming flip flop. So we just mark it down as more hypocrisy from the left.
wow - the little boys are riled up aren't you. Pity!
billybob - no the board members I serve with don't lie and put our President down. They are respectful and would no more speak childishly about our government than they would about all of our jobs. We discuss our business as well as politics respectfully. And, even though we are pretty evenly split - Conservatives and Liberals - everyone has good ideas.
So, totally different situation.
Try again little girl... "considered an executive"?? Only in your fantasy world. Fetching coffee for the boss and diddling on this board does not make you an executive...
Precisely. Apparently exec means being a petulant child to her. I guess we could all be execs if we lowered our standards, at least in her OWS camp.
Little boys - I'm a Vice President - considered an executive. Try again pathetic little ones. Oh, and I doubt you'll find too many four letter words in my posts. But, whatever makes you feel better about yourselves.
Now, outta here. Dinner with clients and my guy!
Vice President?? Ok...yes...sure...You are definitely good for a laugh... Seeking...you are a very delusional invidual. Have fun with your imaginary boyfriend and those "clients"!! Wow...what an imagination!!
Come on guys, Seeking is a VP! Yep, I guess that Duke education is good for real estate sales!!!!
I can imagine the snark comments when she attempts to handle a client objection.
Dinner with her guy? Poor SOB to live with that!
Oh well, in her own mind she's a genuine VP, but that's only in the world of the internet.
Both she and Fisty Dye Jar both went to the same funeral the other day, are they one in the same?
And folks were thinking the $ 500,000 per person was going towards Mr. Obama's agenda. It will be redirected to the Clinton "WAR" chest.
Sorry but the wars all belong to the neo-cons and they are having a hay day with the unending wars not going on in Syria/Egypt/Libya/et al.....
" ... Your guy (or cause) sucks; mine will solve all the world's problems. ... "
No. My guy sucks too. Just not as bad as yours did/does.
No. My guy lies too. Just didn't get as many people killed in doing it as yours did.
Mine will not solve many of the worlds problems. But I hope he wont cause as many of them as yours did.
You? You want to deny that yours even existed. And you want to blame mine for @!$%# yours did.
Me? I will, and am, blaming mine for @!$%# he did. I will also blame him for @!$%# he didn't do. And I will deny none of what really belongs to him.
You? Don't make me laugh.
You? Who the hell knows. Certainly not you.
They probably was talking about the NEXT Presidential election, LOOK out Republicans Clinton will most likely run, that means another 4 years for the Democrats let the Crying and Whining begin..... LOL
it would be hard to determine who was the ugliest woman at that table.
How lovely....who did the dishes? I just love how they spend our money. No problem. Oh, by the way, Hillary, thanks for covering my ass! Oh, @!$%#, the people will forget everything....they are so stupid, uou know.
How bought that " first supper"?
I don't care who you are. THATS FUNNY!
Why not eat together, they are cousins. Get a little game plan together. Visit about what the Royal family wants them to do next. You know the usual stuff.
Why do the stupid people on the left still deny that the sequester was Obama's idea? One of his lackeys admitted as much on Meet the Press recently. I absolutely can't believe people can be in denial when the admission finally comes.
My guess about the topic of conversation at the dinner is that Bill and Hillary were telling Obama how to kill people and get away with it.
Could somebody please purchase a bottle of Midol for seeking sanity????? Never, mind. She's always a biotch so I truly doubt that it would help at all!!!!!!!
I wonder how many White House tours could have been given instead of this Obama/Clinton orgy.
Once again the pig jumps the gun.
The plants have deep roots on NBC.
And all you liberals give it votes.
Amazing.
what's really amazing is the conglomerate of puke-breathed loser neo-cons who come here just for a circle jerk. Well, come to think of it, not really... considering what Funny Girl and the fat pasty-faced white boys look like, gotta take it where you can get it, RIGHT?
PRober:
Hmmmm, you know a lot about losers, it seems.
Yes, the entertaining of important people, Politicians, and Hollywood Celebrities will go on as usual in the White House, costing a fortune--but there is no money for Touring the White House--where young families and their children could have good historical memories for a lifetime--mine did many years old, and still talk about it--
There is something out of whack with the logic of Obama---what he is doing is instilling pain on ordinary citizens of the United States who voted for him---we are going to pay for his illogical Sequestration choices---the US Government are doing studies on Swine Manure--this is true. Look it up. Where do they get the money for that--yes, the dummies of the United States through our taxes! That's us!
Now the Clinton's and the Obama's are friends. Hmmmmmm 4 1/2 years ago, Hillary was snubbed and treated like 'dirt" by Obama, when it came to becoming a Candidate for President. Memory is short; but Politics stinks.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/03/a-defense-of-pi/ Pig odors studied along with manure.
So -- we had the past president, the current president and the FUTURE president at the White House having dinner. That's reality. Get used to it Republicans. It's going to be a long time before one of yours wins a national election again.
Why was "Wild Bill" impeached??
~Birds of a feather~.
Note to GOP: be afraid, be very afraid. Whenever you see an Obama and a Clinton together, things don't go well for you.
And your plan for a "GOP Power Couple Lunch" featuring Todd and Sarah Palin hosting Michelle and Marcus Bachman at the Mall of America food court is probably not the news you want to make.
No, they just got rid of tuition assistance for soldiers to cover it.
"Why was "Wild Bill" impeached??"
Because a bunch of hypocritical Republicans wanted it to happen. And Remember --- he was acquitted of both charges by a Republican controlled Senate.
No it isn't. The White House belongs to U.S. taxpayers.
God, what a horrible group of people. They certainly deserve each other.
http://www.dropshots.com/OldCrow2#date/2011-08-07/09:35:21
http://www.dropshots.com/OldCrow2#date/2012-06-09/14:53:47
@pigotry-
"in Obama we trust"
No, YOU trust- not everyone is in such an irrational state of mind.
While we're at it, this is not the first time you've enlikened Obama as 'the messiah' or sent by God himself. You starry-eyed libs are mesmerized and hypnotized, believing they have your best interests in mind. In time, your opinions will change once reality forces your heads out of the sand.
Sieg Heil!!!!
Hillary is old and washed up and Obama the magic negro is no Bill Clinton.
#1.95 rgsdca1965: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as has done a tremendous amount of work repairing damage done by the Bush Administration to our country's world profile.
I would enjoy our country's being a fascist state for just a few minutes--long enough to put you in jail for treason.
As soon as we impeach Obama for the cover up for our dead ambassador and send that old hag Hill Billy Hillary in jail that's fine with me bitch lolol
And I gave money to her back in 2007 but I cant stand her now.
And I hear for as little as 500,000.oo I two can get me a tax cut.
Enneagram1They would never throw you in jail because your just a kool aid drinker.
You don't need a tax cut since you don't pay taxes; you just mooch off others. You don't work; you live in your mom's basement; smoke pot all day, and rarely bathe. A far cry from what Hillary Clinton has contributed to society.
BTW, I am ignoring you; so any further stupid comments from you won't appear on my screen. L-O-L!
I paid 213000.00 dollars in taxes 2007 and 170,000.00 in insurance I was on my way but now just holding on due to the lack of leadership in Washington.
and now under 60,000 and my insurance about 50,000
so if I get pissed off due to the fact that they are wasting MY MONEY that's is why
Oh I don't smoke nor drink bath sometimes three time a day only vice is my starbucks.
@rgsdca1965: you rwnj's crack me up - nobody can parody you as well as your own words. You think if you shout "Benghazi" enough times it will be like Shatner saying "Denny Crain" --- but that was a TV show and this is real life ... and you should get one.
The country is going to Hell in a hand basket and First Read thinks this is news.
The first place for news and analysis from the NBC News Political Unit.
Indeed.
Wonder if FR can give us a night by night roster of who the President dines with?
Might be more interesting than cherry picking the less corrupt big donor guests.
WCA ... Hillary will be news for a long time. I suggest kind words to your main squeeze.
The country is going to Hell in a hand basket and First Read thinks this is news.
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No...Politico thinks its news...and I'm certain just about any news outlet with any political bent to one way or another will have folks who have something to say and/or write about it...so in reality here, like the item or not, your position probably really is in the minority here.
Well WCA, I suspect your hell is your hand basket. Today and tomorrow are easily juggled by an adept mind.
gee, remember all the bad things Obama was saying about Hillary during the 2007 primaries?
Glad to see Mr. Clinton flip flop on gay marriage, it is about time!
edgarw - "if the republicans offered up an African American female though."
"Offered up" sounds a bit like leading a lamb to slaughter which is probably prescient.
The country is going to Hell in a hand basket...
WCA, not sure if I agree. While the indescrimate slashing of all government agencies will be harsh hopefully the economy can weather the sequester.
Be of good cheer there is some good news on the economic front with the UE number going down to 7.7 and 236,000 people getting jobs last month. Why even read a report that car sales are expected to explode because people like business are finally becoming more confident to spend/hire.
I am glad that the nation learned with certainty that tax rates for those making over $450,000 will go up. Sure the fiscal cliff deal should have included middle class tax cuts going away too but oh well. Also it is a certainty that Obama care will go into effect, even GOP governors in Florida, Michigan and Virginia are signing on the create health exchanges to work with the feds. Uncertainty was always claimed to be a problem in job growth and recovery. Certainty - Tax rates going up and Obama care being fully implemented. A real chance at comprehensive immigration reform and additional tax reform, entitlement reform.
Life is good, to quote my yellowdog avatar.
Allen - you are correct in saying his position is in the minority here... considering that First Read has about a 5 to 1 ratio of liberals to conservatives. I'm certain in many other circles his position would be status quo.
I wonder what happened to the Divorce Court ?
Maybe someone got paid off, or it would hurt "someone's" chances of running for the People's House.
edgarw
That's odd, and it seems to chime with my numbers when it comes to humorous posters.
Well Mark, I guess I disagree. I think you have fallen into the trap of the "New Normal"
Come on up to Detroit and I'll show you just how things are here.
Celebrating 7.7% unemployment while a record 90 million people are not in the labor force up 270,000 in the last 3 months. (BTW the Baby Boomer retiree argument doesn't hold water. In the good old days when someone retired, there job was usually filled with a new employee. Now it just goes away.)
Gas has doubled in price in the last 4 years.
Government spending grows exponentially every year.
In fact, a study showed recently that most Americans can't even afford to buy a new car.
New car sales have most likely plateaued. The pent up demand from 2010-2011 has been met.
Those Governors are signing on to exchanges because they were forced to Mark.
Tell me, how do we ever recover from the Trillions of dollars of debt we incur each and every year.
Sooner or later, the dollar is worthless, Mark, and I think at the rate we are going it is going to be sooner.
WCA ... and the demise of GM is when again? Perhaps a confab with Spanky?
White Collar Auto
"The country is going to Hell in a hand basket and First Read thinks this is news."
One major sign of the end times is when a political minority relegates themselves to repeating the ancient, broad, and essentially meaningless colloquialisms of their ancestors and calling it "input".
Cat,
I'm sure you are aware that the Government has started selling off their shares of GM. Losing billions with each transaction. When all is said and done, probably close to $15 Billion Dollars.
Wonder why there is so little news about that?
This year at the NAIAS the big GM news was the new Corvette Stingray. A 450 HP monster. Not quite what the President had in mind.
Do you have any idea how many they will need to sell to make a profit? It's what they call a Halo car, Cat. Something you do when you have a lot of money cuz it ain't gonna make 'em any money.
Times haven't changed at GM, Cat. Same old, same old and it's just a matter of time before the next crisis.
Hey Ruken, How's it going?
Actually, Michelle, the worst thing we ever heard Barack Obama say about Hillary was "you're likeable enough." Not bad, considering the "he's a Muslim, he's a socialist, he was born in Kenya" poop we had to listen to from the Republican side.
WCA ... considering the present world economy GM is doing well ... that -15billion may well end out to be not tax and spend but tax and invest.
WCA, we recover from our increasing debt by getting people back to work at reasonable wages so they begin to pay taxes. We close loopholes for the wealthy and stop subsidies to corporations that are making more than any corporations in the history of the plant. We eliminate the Social Security cap, which is now fixed at $106,000 per year, so that the more you make, the more you pay.
The dollar is still far from worthless, because inflation is only about 1.3% a year.
By the way, the national deficit has been cut in half since 2009 -- from 10% of GDP to 5%. Next year's will be smaller still.
edgarw
Allen - you are correct in saying his position is in the minority here... considering that First Read has about a 5 to 1 ratio of liberals to conservatives. I'm certain in many other circles his position would be status quo.
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No...I meant just in general when I said "here". It was nothing to do with the regular visitors to this site. Conservative radio, conservative cable news shows, etc....they will all have something to say about it...good, bad or indifferent, their 2 cents will be added.
So I'll repeat the original point, if his premise is that because it is being written/talked about constitutes 'being news', his position will be in the minority, because it will be written and/or talked about everywhere...therefore, his position will be in the minority.
Allen - OK, from a news stance I'll agree with you... but I'm sure his point was that this is "fluff" news. When you consider all other things news reporting could cover, this is bottom feeding. The names and the event are not newsworthy but in today's celebrity news style, it would go to the top of the list. Doesn't make it right... only goes to show you how enamored people are with this type of story. We live in an age where the winners of American Idol are more important than items that really effect people's lives. Sad to say in the least.
Another day of misplaced outrage from WCA. It gets old, sweetpea.
edgarw, in case you missed it I answered your question in thread #1 about which Bush I meant and explained why I was right. FYI, only 22% in a 2013 poll identified themselves as conservatives so odds are that on FR, it's probably about the same percentage.
[Well Mark, I guess I disagree.]
Well, there's a @!$%#ing surprise...got anything NEW you want to unload on us WCA besides th asame old stale crap you've been pullin gout of your ass?
Oh, I know...like maybe you finally wrote that letter to President Obama thanking him for bailing out the auto industry, saving your piddly job designing cupholders?
Way to go, Captain Cupholder...Way.To.Go.
WCA - From a Rueters report in late November 2012.
General Motors Co's head of North American operations, Mark Reuss, said the aging vehicles remain a powerful driver for sales and the specter of the fiscal cliff is not driving decision-making at the U.S. automaker. "There's still a lot of pent-up demand," he said. "I'm not making production decisions on it."
Analysts and executives predict an annual sales rate in November of 14.8 million to 15.3 million vehicles, rebounding from October's disappointing results when superstorm Sandy affected buying in the last few days of the month.
Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas, who expects a November annual rate of 15 million vehicles, pointed to the advanced age of many vehicles on the road, a factor industry officials have been touting for at least a year. The average age of a car has hit a record high of almost 11 years.
"It's pent-up demand and not just a Sandy rebound," Jonas said in a research note. "Most of this demand reflects the buoyancy in consumer expectations."
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The Bush recession and slowly mending Obama recovery has meant that cars are aging as people keep them longer. Projections do show that we can be in for a spurt in purchases.
Also although I defer to your inside knowledge of Detroit and cars in general I was thinking about your argument about the Corvette. The amount of Corvette Stingrays a niche car will probably not make money, wouldn't GM's family cars make them a profit to compensate? Or how about GMC pickups probably their best seller, a big spike could also be a good indicator for construction jobs, workers, DIY homeowners hauling stuff. A corvette no matter how cool it looks doesn't pay GMC's bills like a white pick up truck does.
The "New Normal" is that the show after "Modern Family"?
Mark, when gas get's to $5 a gallon this summer, Truck sales will begin to fall.
It is they way our President wants it.
Same thing happened in 2008. It was the first crack in the demise of the Auto industry, then and it will be just as harmful when it happens again.
Trucks and SUV's. IF we can't sell 'em, we're in trouble.
amy -- i believe we heard obama say much more to hillary than you seem to recall.
On foreign policy, Obama again said better judgment trumps longer experience. He mocked Clinton, saying that she drove the "bus into the ditch" along with President Bush with the decision to invade Iraq.
and how about this one -- Obama said Clinton's plan, by making coverage compulsory, would impose harsh penalties on people who couldn't afford it. (at the time he was attacking her ideas and then magically he adopted them.)
this one was cute: "She knows better. Shame on her. Shame on her. She knows better. She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen. She, how she values the second amendment, she's talking like she is Annie Oakley."
and he even had the nerve to say this: Later, at a Monday forum on manufacturing, he referred to footage of her knocking back a beer with a whiskey chaser in a Pennsylvania bar, saying she was a typical politician. "They'll promise you anything, give you a long list of proposals and even come around, with TV crews in tow, to throw back a shot and a beer."
Well, this is news, it just isn't NEWS. If there were only Earth-shaking stories here the list would be pretty short. Sometimes you have to have general interest stories too. Read a newspaper sometime, you know those wonderful publications that are almost gone for examples.
"The country is going to Hell in a hand basket and First Read thinks this is news."
Oh yes -- the nation is just going to hell -- 240,000 new jobs last month, a record high DOW, housing is coming back, the lowest unemployment rate for more than 4 years, record profits among Fortune 500 companies --- things are just falling apart!!!!
charlie -- so would you say we are now in the recovery summer biden promised nearly 3 years ago?
charlie -- so would you say we are now in the recovery summer biden promised nearly 3 years ago?
We've been in recovery for 3 years -- a slow recovery after digging out from the worst economic since the depression due to George W. Bush and his Republican congress.
"Obama only wants to tax the rich and turn this country into a bad place."
BS. Taxes are at a 70 year low in this nation. He wanted to increase taxes on the top 1/2% back to where they were in the Clinton administration when we saw the greatest economic expansion in the history of the nation. In case you forgot -- President Obama cut taxes on the middle class in his first year in office.
Certainly, two idiot Dem families in a BS festival on taxpayers money. Nothing to be proud of, Pig!
in 2016 we/they will l be 22 trillion in the hole job growth in America will still be at a stand still and Amereican's will be fed up and vote any old GOP in
Bill Clinton advocating repeal of marriage....? Bill, you can't do this to Hillary on the International Women's Day.
It's movie night for Hillary - the movie for Hillary? 'Kill Bill 2'
Nah I think Hillary wants to get nostalgic and reminisce the 2008 Democrat primaries and curl up with some popcorn and watch "The Manchurian Candidate".
"The Manchurian Candidate".
Fortunately McCain never became President. The Hanoi Hilton has quite a reading list ... and no Gideon to light the way.
remember this one?
This one always brings a tear to my eye...
Lil Michelle - however, they've reconciled their differences and are very supportive of each other. I know you don't understand but that is what ADULTS do!
That could be true. I thought that it was funny that they threw Hillary under the bus for being racist though...
Wonder if Obama trust "slick willie" around michelle...???
Except on FR and the Newsvine.
Lil Michelle - I'm sure President Obama trusts Clinton. So much for the 162 IQ - what a joke!
Yea Lil Michelle and the Demofears say Republicans are the racist ones, I still like the Biden one that Obama was clean, I suppose Biden was on his hands and knees sniffing around on the jewels are just refering that Obama was actually looking clean cut. I wouldnt know why that would of been so amazing anyways.
meetooboo - again proving Republicans require their supporters be crude, classless, vulgar and totally lacking in both intelligence and integrity. Bet they welcomed you with open arms.
Come on, Pigotry, you know there is a difference between "repeal of marriage" and "repeal of Defense of Marriage Act." The first won't happen and the second is devoutly to be wished for.
Seriously...
This just in! Malika made her bed this morning! Film at eleven.
Why not? After all Hillary SS, served the Country well, Bill masterful at the convention and a force to be reckoned with--they both play and know the political game well. Glad Bill acknowledged Defense of Marriage Act was wrong then as it is today.
GOPers and Romney same old sad song of lament.
Get over the bj boys, old tiresome news and truly nobody cares.
Hillary 2016
Sure thing, skyparrot. And when your female kid gives that bj in the boys' bathroom and refers to it as a 'Bill Clinton', maybe you will get over it.
He, the slimeball, truly changed the way kids now think about early sex. Hope you and yours enjoy your new illegitimate offspring and burgeoning sexual diseases. You then might reassess your position of "noby cares".
sky -- constantly hear the great job she did as ss but it is hard to find an quantifiable evidence to support that statement. i will grant that she was a road warrior though in and of itself not much. here are some thoughts from the web:
"You look across the world now at the major issues. Are Arabs and Israelis closer to peace? How about Iran and North Korea and their nuclear programs: Have they been halted or seriously set back?”
“Has the ‘reset’ with Russia, which she so famously introduced with the photo-op in Moscow with the reset button, has that led to a new and more cooperative relationship?” he continued.
“Is there a ‘Clinton Doctrine’ that we can identify that she has articulated and formed as secretary of state? Are there major treaties that she has undertaken and negotiated through to a successful conclusion? I think the answer to all those questions is that she has not. And those are the kinds of things that might mark her as a great secretary of state.”
in the end she was competent but not great.
hjack - again proving that vulgar, crude, classless, lacking intelligence and integrity are all requirements to be aq good little Republican boy.
SkyParrot, Your name says it all.
I have attempted to read this muck'but I will now give up gladly and try another post
"Seeking Sanity" says, (referring to someone else's comments about Bill Clinton), "...again proving that vulgar, crude, classless, lacking intelligence and integrity are all requirements to be aq good little Republican boy."
Astounding. Let me ask: Do you even know who Bill Clinton is? Did you read the newspaper or watch the news while he was president? Do you know what a sexual predator is? Have you ever heard the term, "perjury"?
Mike - you're a total joke. But, I'm guessing YOU have no clue about what happened so you fabricate as much as you can. Go ahead if it makes you feel better - it's clearly all you have!
You people want to defend Clinton and you are wrong. He had an affair with someone his daughter's age in the Oval Office. He lied about it under oath and got impeached. He was disbarred from the practice of law in Arkansas for comitting perjury and for tampering with and intimidating witnesses, some of who met with very mysterious deaths. This is the person you idolize? Apparently, your standards are pretty low.
The Obamas and Clintons have a great deal in common. One thing they have in common is that they have been disbarred from the practice of law. That shows real integrity and attention to detail there.
I get a kick out of this hypocrisy from the SeekingSanity person.
Obama and Clinton...
Two democrats who will be out on the campaign trail in 2016....
Former teapublican presidential winners and losers???
Not so much....
2 most talented retail politicians in recent memory
retail politicians? no wonder the Hill couldn't answer Benghazi questions. Where was Barry? Where was the HILL?
When do answers come?
Fully realizing that even most teapublicans have moved on from the Benghazi issue...
teapublican truthers .. LOL!!!!
The entertainment continues...
Now funnygirl, don't make fun. She hurt her little head.
Entertainment? How about this opinion: If Hill gets elected in 2016, does she bring Bill with her in the front door, and her girlfriend in the back door?
I want to know just when are republicans going to grow up?
They have not asked this many questions about 9/11 or that the bush administration was warned about even to the detail they would be using planes. Or how about the war in Iraq that we were lied to by our own republican leaders? I guess 4000 dead Americans mean much less to republicans than 4 Americans dead that they can try and spread lies and conspiracy theories about democrats. Right, funnygirl?
From the way the republicans act you would think that President Obama planned the attacks himself.
What bothers me the most about republicans is they won the house running on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010 and have not created or voted for one job. Instead the republicans want austerity that could send our country back into another recession and ironically make us lose jobs.
While some want to make small of the cut of spending of 2% while forgetting our economy only grew about .5% the last quarter.
I am tired of going from one republican created economic disaster to another every few months. We just had an election where the people spoke and the republicans are doing everything they can to stand in the way of the will of the people.
Just like background checks, republicans are always for the rich (gun manufactures in this case) and never for the will of the people.
@ Funkygirl:
Watch your wording, dim-wit!
AF... The vast majortie of the 'Merkin pipple DEMAND that the repugnicans make Obama STOP spending the money as authorized by the very pipple they demand it of!!!!
Translation... A handful of backward turnips that have no idea how things work actually believe the crap continually inferred to them, and that suits the wealthier and only slightly less backward turnips on the hill just fine...
It's like an abusive parental relationship... Daddy drinks and gambles all the money away and then convinces his ignorant kids that the black man down the street stole it.
@funnygirl - probably Sandra Fluke, now that she dropped out of college...
Americans First - I want to know just when are republicans going to grow up? As you can see from neverbeenfullychild and Lil Michelle - the answer would be NEVER.
They don't have the brains or integrity to grow up and be civil!
funnygirl/guy, the questions have been answered by Hillary Clinton and the administration. The fact that conservatives and numnuts don't like the answers is your problem not the White House's or Hillary Clinton's.
grow up and be civil? Read your insulting posts little girl, and go back to your little third grade classroom.
Really Dukester, from which end does your brain reside? It must located in your posterier, for you are constantly speaking out of your a$$.
Go back to sticking you head in your anus Seeking.
neverbeenfunny but alwasy crude, classless, vulgar and lacking intelligence and integrity - your post says everything there is to say about you!
Please read yours Sanity and then talk about class. You must have this in word, copy and paste it to everyones comments.
You are old and stale there girl. Go back to hiding under the rock or find new material.
Lil Michelle -- FYI Sandra Fluke graduated from Georgetown cum laude and has passed the California Bar. Pretty good for a slut, huh.
LOL, on Friday's I like to throw stuff out there to see who is actually informed, and you get a gold star! Fail for the rest...
[LOL, on Friday's I like to throw stuff out there to see who is actually informed, and you get a gold star!]
Lemme guess...it's that "162 IQ", right?
The day Sandra Fluke needs birth control I will flip the bill.
Don't want any Clintons anywhere near my government. Must be reviewing the least qualified list.
To all the children who wanted to tour the Whitehouse during spring break,screw you.We can't have you spoiling the meal of the high and mighty.
Signed,
Your President
Bad news kids, the cancelled White House Tour is the least of your worries. Head Start has been cut and your parents lost their jobs in the Defense industry.
This was one that particularly bothered me. That the pain of the sequester should only hurt the poor among us and never affect the ones in congress who let it happen.
That somehow the tours that the senators give as perks to their donors is desired by them the rich elite so they think the cuts should go elsewhere and only affect others.
If you were given the choice of letting an American child go hungry or end the white house tours, what would you do? But in an republicans mind it is only another reason to hate our president.
Awe Amy got invited to the "sky is falling" talking points meeting. Yes kiddies,thousands upon thousands of teachers have already been laid off,your grandparents are already starving,and there will be no one there to put your fire out.LMAO
American-Funny I didn't know school children were rich elite donors. Chicken Little at his best.
right, broker 1
The 1% are immune to the effects of a recession, so let's go ahead and flirt with slowing the economy to preserve tax loopholes for hedge fund managers.
Gosh I guess I didn't know that giving tours to children was so much more important than seeing them get food.
Too bad the republicans forgot that Americans concern for jobs meant creating them and not killing them.
Meanwhile broker is repeating his talking points he got from the same people who lied us to the Iraq war. The same ones who had lied to republicans so much that they couldn't believe they lost the election. But of course now that they are lying about our president and our economy surely you believe every word.
When the sequester really kicks in, you will see the pain and the damage to our economy and won't have to wonder who is lying anymore.
broker1: 1) it costs $74,000 per week for WH tours; that's $3,848,000 per year. Your side insisted on budget cuts, don't complain when you don't like what is cut. 2) the cost of private meals for every presidential family, including private dinners with friends, is paid for by the family.
Amy, Americans First, great points and well said!
I would ask all, what have your states done to have prepared for the sequester? I heard on the news coming home last night that Idaho has been preparing for over a year, and will be just fine, according to cbo
I'm sure with the sequester and all that Michelle had some coupons for Popeye's chicken......Only the best for this cast of dubious characters..........
I'm sure someone retorted....Let them eat cake!
As every previous president has, President Obama's family pay for their own meals, that includes dinners with friends. Taxpayers only pay for State Dinners, and special events such as the Easter, Christmas events which are traditions.
I for one would like to see the work report and see the check for payment of services before I believe that statement Jody.
right Jody I just saw Mrs Obama in the Walmart with a grocery cart LOL
I'm glad to see this First Read article, especially since it interrupts its reporting on CPAC.
hi now we all know that this is policts. it just show that the president is keeping his eyes on the both of them.
Yeah...but who's keeping an eye on the Empty Suit?
BHO...The cancerous tumor on the body of American society and freedom.....
Meanwhile the republicans are busily taking women's right of choice away from wherever they have the majority.
When they are not making women into second class citizens, they are trying to suppress the vote as the only way they can see winning elections.
The republicans only kept the house because of extreme gerrymandering that is doing nothing but blocking the will of the people who voted for a balanced solution.
And yet they would have you believe it is the democrats who are threatening your freedoms.
Yeah...but who's keeping an eye on the Empty Suit?
Anne Romney!
Women's right of choice? What choice does the baby have in an abortion? I'll help you. NONE!
She did a great job, as well as her husband, although he could have done alot better. What is the controversy? Budget surplus compared to his predecessor that got rid of it in less than a year and a half, destroyed the economy, got us into two wars, one unfounded, gave to the rich and stole from the poor. Obama could do better without the partisan crap from Texans and the southern confederacy. Shame them! We need a new direction, where kids are educated, new energy ideas, new businesses HERE! Something the GOP can't offer!
which of course is why teapublicans will be losing on the national stage into the foreseeable future...
Thankfully...
Thank you Mr. Carney......You've got those talking points down pat...If only you'd said it's Bush's fault it would have been perfect.......
The tea-publicans have all settled around the proverbial punch-bowl, where they seem perfectly content bobbing for one another and thoroughly ignorant of the real world. This is where they have the republican party searching for candidates.
Here we go with the gossip! What difference does it make what someone and his guest discusses at dinner? It's a free country and they can talk about whatever they want. Perhaps Obama was using the dinner to thank Hillary for a stellar job as Secretary of State. Maybe they just made small talk as people do in casual dinner parties among friends. If any of the participants want us to know they'll tell us. Until then it is none of our damn business.
I hear Bill tried to talk Barack into swapping after dinner.
But Mr. Obama's reply was "Now why would I want to do that? Hell, I talked half of the country into screwing her over with me in 2008".
He only wanted her to give him a Bill Clinton.
repugnantkins ^^^
Feast your eyes on the least among us! Takers and Fakers.
Ahhhh from and infamous rereg.
Talk, that is not the least bit funny. Too many posters think that crude adolescent jokes are funny. They aren't, at least not to adults.
i wonder if the boys retired to the sitting room and smoked cigars while the girls cleaned up?
So many comments just because the former and current president sat down for a meal.
Bill - We sure have got it good don't we Barry?
Barry - Yes, Bill we sure do... jet around, do anything we want, blame Bush for everything... it sure is good to be the King.
Bill - And the interns.... man-o-man... with you sending Hillary around the world, things couldn't be better... oh hush, here she comes with Michelle.... hey Honey, how's you head?
Barry - (under his breath) Not near as good as Monica, I'll bet....... ha, ha, ha.....
Hillary - Do you believe how many cards I got from that one? You'd think I was really hurt.
Michelle - Peasants are so easily played, should have seen they way they fell in line for my last trip. They run around like little worker ants tending to my every need. Maybe we should run as a team in 2016 Hillary?
Hillary - now that's an idea Michelle, you could keep your hairdresser, I would have the White House and the....
Michelle - Now wait a minute Hill..... you'd be MY running mate.....
Bill - Uh oh.... gonna be a cat-fight..... Barry, grab me another brew........
Thanks Steve!!!!!!!!!But you owe me a new monitor and keyboard.
I don't think the republicans have to worry about Hillary Clinton. They always have Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann to counter with.
Those are the three wing nuts, left/right/and down right spooky, that the thought of, is terrifying. Altho, I might can handle a four day weekend with Palin, but, not 4 years. And, Bachmann has proven she can deep throat 12 inches. Burrito/foot long hot dog, whatever it was, but the capability is there. Hillary has an excellent track record of being gut truck dog ugly. Also helps that she can lie with the best of them.
The king and Hillary were discussing the transition of power, from him to her in 2016. Bill and Michelle were discussing what wardrobe he should be putting together for when he takes over as first lady.
WHO CARES
No White House tours but the White House chef makes 100 grand a yr. Michelle has the largest staff of any first lady, a 20 car motorcade to go one half mile for dinner a couple of nights ago. My, my, funny how they have more than enough money for their luxury life. The most hypocritical president ever, along with his over-indulgent wife.
President and Mrs Carter were the most frugal people who ever lived in the White House and Republicans never cease ridiculing them, so I think we can ignore the "Moochelle" complaint as nonsense.
selfemployed - still repeating lies that have been debunked over and over and over! Our First Lady's staff is the same number as Laura Bush's and the other first Lady's. You're an idiot to keep posting lies that any first grader could debunk - much less adults.
The most hypocritical and disgusting President is and will always be George W. Bush. All of the First Lady's have been treated as Michelle Obama - no difference AT ALL.
Breaking Bread with America
Obama Care
I just sat through an Obama Care Seminar. Not many people there maybe five. What the rest of America doesn't realize that by 2015 Americans are going to be forced to have health coverage or pay a penalty.
There are however stipulations to having to pay for Obama Care. But you must attend one of the seminars that are free to public to understand.
Don't listen to the phone monkies. Attend one yourself.
What Obama Care will do is make Americans responsible.
Remember there are stipulations that if you meet the requirements you will not be forced to buy the insurance or pay a fine.
One hope of Obama Care is that it will make those on welfare who are screwing everyone by having four or five kids who suck our tax dollars out of the system realize that they ALSO will have to buy the insurance or pay a fine thus taking the money that they have taken away from and putting it back into the system where it belongs.
Now since the government is pick pocketing Americans Americans need to pick pocket them back.
Politicians or any government worker that has a worth over $1,000,000 upon retirement shall not receive a tax payer backed retirement.
There is no reason why someone like George Bush or Paul Ryan who are worth $35,000,000 and $5,000,000 respectively should be entitled to a retirement based off of tax payer money.
Such government workers, including politicians, not exceeding $100,000 including all assets both American based and foreign based, this means a Swiss Bank Account, If any government worker earns a paycheck over $100,000 and has assets valuing over a $1,000,000 then a 10% return of their paycheck based upon tax dollars would be taken from their paycheck and put back into programs for America.
Example: If a government worker earns $100,000 a year based upon tax dollars and has assets that value $2,000,000, either in domestice or foreign equity, then 20% of their paycheck, which comes from tax payer dollars or $20,000 would be taken from their yearly paycheck and put back into America's social services.
They pick pocket us every day and call the acts of other Socialism.
But in retrospect the politician is committing an act of Socialism by standing at a podium creating words and asking for money for what they have said only to continue to take from the tax payer when THEY do not need.
Politicians - Socialism at its finest.
Hillary had my support in 2008 right up till she flubbed the war question and Obama did not. I wanted so much to vote for the first woman president but I consoled myself with knowing that I now had the chance to vote for tha first black POTUS. Everyone who follows politics knows she lost over the war questions plain and simple and the fact that the dems had the two most competent people running was an added benefit. Anyway it seems I will get my woman in the White House after all and it is nice to know I will be on the right side of history again. Just saying
LOL
I too enjoy being on the right side of history. I supported Obama over Clinton in 2007, but I'll be happy to vote for Hillary Rodham-Clinton in 2016, if we are so lucky she will run.
So, Nick, you vote by race/gender? Thank you for being responsible. If that is the right side of of history, we don't need a wrong side.
No James - Nick like the rest of us, voted for the most capable candidate. He had thought it was going to be Hillary but it ended up being President Obama - heads above McCain/Palin. Now he's seen Hillary develop and earn her credentials and she will be a formidable foe for whatever idiot the Republicans try to pull out of their hat!
YOUR side IS the wrong side!
Yeah...I'm sure she has that war question thing all figured out by now.....Not that it's important or anything.....
no matter how the left spins it they threw gender under the bus in favor of color. that is why their identity politics are so challenging to them.
Let's see. 95% of African-Americans voted for Obama. I'm sure that was not a racial thing. It just couldn't be. I'll be willing to bet you that 95% of women don't vote for Hillary. And then, people like Nick, admit to casting a racially motivated ballot. Stupid is as stupid does.
nope...95% of African-Americans voted Democrat, something I know they've done since Clinton was in office. Just so happened that Democrat was of mixed race(white mother, Black father) and looks Black. Good argument, but it's a loaded one Derek.
They're swingers!
=D
In the trees.
james - clearly the monkey here is you! (sorry little monkeys)
Another thing about Obama Care - Just because the government has controll over it doesn't mean that Americans can goto other countries seeking their health insurance.
After all America is a Free Market and insurance providers are part of that market.
This means that Americans are able to seek health insurers in other countries based upon the Free Market System.
I hear Cuba has good plan for health care....they did excellent work on Chavez.....Now if we could only get the Empty Suit over there for some treatment......Maybe Pelosi and Reid as well.....
God D@mn I hope she runs! Repukes gonna be pouting for another 8 years LOL! I'll take another 8 years of a Democrat. Wish the Sout would get out of the 1800's and into the 21st century so them Repukes would go extinct.
Thank you for your support, of a liberal dictatorship. Now get back to your meth lab.
james - what an idiotic but totally Republican post. We never expect any better from you!
btorched, I guess if I were to say their was more than one pig at that table it would upset you. Oh well, get upset, because there were 2 pigs at the table.
No need to get all potty-mouth, btorched. I don't see anyone pouting. I do see a bunch of ignorant liberals who can care less about the state of the country as long as their party wins. For me, I can care less which party they belong to as long as they do right by our country, and that hasn't happened in a long time.
B torched, rest assure, I will promise your dumb ass, she will not win, she has the wrong color. Also by the time you Communist Pukes get through with this 4 Year term, Americans will have pulled there heads out of there Ass, and woke up to all the communist propaganda this POS (so called president has been spewing ), Also what the hell has he done, Caught Bin laden, hell I want believe it till they show us proof, no pics, drop a coffin in the sea, He has been dead for years, all the so called seals are dead now. Whats up....you Libs are complete Idiots, also sub Human.........Your days are coming, want be enough holes for you cock suckers to hide in.
@big john, you are another example of an under informed pig ignorant philistine trying desperately to string together a coherent thought...
In retrospect, actually what you said was quite funny. I mean it was a joke, right? You were trying to make me laugh right?
I was laughing my ass off. He's an angry white male.