Ryan remains coy on GOP budget proposals despite White House charm offensive

As Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., plans to unveil his new budget next Tuesday, the House Budget Committee chairman said he had spoken this week with President Barack Obama, who's been ramping up outreach to congressional Republicans.

Ryan told Capitol Hill reporters on Wednesday that he had recently spoken to Obama by phone, though the former Republican vice presidential nominee declined to divulge specifics from the "confidential" conversation. Ryan said he told Obama that "we need to prepare for the retirement of the baby boom generation in this country to save these programs, for not just for the current retirees but for the next wave of retirees after that."

President Barack Obama's calendar is getting full – he's having dinner with Republican senators Wednesday night and is requesting more meetings with House and Senate Republicans on the Hill next week. Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., discusses.

The call from Obama would seem to fit with the recent charm offensive for Republicans being waged by the White House. The administration confirmed Wednesday that Obama would address the House and Senate GOP conferences next week, and the president will dine this evening with a handful of Republican senators.

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Despite the recent conversation with the president, Ryan still took the opportunity to slam him for the Obama administration's own delay releasing its own budget.

"I find it interesting that he's chosen to blow the deadline again — not by a week or two, but for a indefinite period of time," he said. "The White House ought to lead, that's what presidents do. A delay does not show seriousness of purpose."

The Wisconsin congressman's remarks set the stage for this spring's budget battles; the House and Senate have each vowed to produce and pass a budget as part of an agreement last month to extend the nation's debt limit through mid-May. While that's expected to be a hard-fought debate, Ryan insisted he had "hope" both sides could "start talking to each other and start solving these problems."

The new House GOP budget will be unveiled on Tuesday of next week. Ryan declined to outline hard numbers from his fiscal blueprint, explaining that those will be revealed when the budget is formerly introduced. Though he's pledged his new budget would balance the U.S. books by 2023, Ryan said there would not be big differences between this year's budgets and past budgets he has produced.

"It doesn't take enormous changes in our budget to get there and you'll see what they are," Ryan said.

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Democrats have used those past budgets, though, against Republican lawmakers who eventually vote for it. The first budget produced by Ryan in 2011 and its proposed reforms to Medicare became a lightning rod during the 2012 campaign, both on the presidential campaign trail and in scores of House and Senate races. Democrats will carefully comb through Ryan's new budget for any additional provisions of controversy, though Republicans will also be able to pore over the budget that Senate Democrats will have to produce this spring.

One concrete detail offered by Ryan was that the new GOP budget would not rely upon a budget baseline that does not count as savings either the draw down of the war in Afghanistan, or less disaster aid once the Hurricane Sandy relief is paid.

"We're not going to be in Afghanistan for 10 more years…we had a huge hurricane, biggest one since '05, are we going to have a hurricane like that every year? CBO says so in their baseline," the budget chairman explained.

The Congressional Budget Office projects the cost of current programs for the next decade, Ryan's argument is that Democrats can't count the reduction of those programs as savings when they will know they will not exist within 10 years. 

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obama - lead? An oxymoron! Blame maybe, but never lead. Go on tour, perhaps, but not lead!

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#1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:44 PM EST

That's why he is talking to Ryan and having the GOP over for "munchies". He wants to find out in private what he is doing wrong cause it sounded good when he dreamed it. I think he is finally getting the point that because he says it is so, it isn't necessarily right or smart.

I hope, in view of his other policies and those disastrous cuts (sarc off), that they are going to be ordering in from Taco Bell.

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#1.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:47 PM EST

Amen funnygirl2. The Republicans are wise to his deception. He talks about balance and offers none. Let him lay out a plan thats not laughed at my both sides for once! His blame game finally got old, even the Press stoped buying it.

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#1.2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:47 PM EST

even the Press stopped buying it.

And he knows it. Even they can only stoop so low when carrying the water.

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#1.3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:51 PM EST

Ryan's idea to "save" these programs is to privatize them for the profit of the uber-wealthy (those who don't need it)--not for the benefit of the working people who have paid into them!

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:55 PM EST

He's leading America right into Oblivion...so yeah by Definition he leads...not like Reagan lead or Patton Lead...

Remember ladies and gents..Bush, Rove, Teaparty and GOP did it...thats what the email from the WH i received this morning said..that and we're at war with Eurasia again

  • 8 votes
#1.5 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:56 PM EST

The only place Paul Ryan remains "coy" would be the Capitol sauna.

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#1.6 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:00 PM EST

the republicans are in self destruct, which will hold true in 2014.

  • 15 votes
#1.7 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:04 PM EST

Ryan's budget proposal - will it be like the last one that economists said was a total lie? Wait, it's from Ryan - of course it will be!

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#1.8 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:09 PM EST

Obama lead? Now, that's funny.

  • 8 votes
#1.9 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:10 PM EST

Seeking Insanity - The sanitarium called and you over due to be back. If Ryan's budget recieves 1 vote it will be 1 more viote than Obama's last 2 budgets combined!

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#1.10 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:16 PM EST

geo - as you well know, seeking sanity in the Republican party but as you and the other far righties on this board prove daily, there is none to be found - just abject stupidity! Too bad a party that used to be a leader in the country has sunk so low as the GOP. You are a fitting example of the depths to which the once great party has dropped.

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#1.11 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:23 PM EST

Ryan's budget is the same old same old GOP approach. Take from the aged and and poor and give to the international rich. He's a jerk, but has a rich future.

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:23 PM EST

geo - even a nut house would kick Seeking Sanity to the curb - all she ever has is BS.

Seeking Sanity - (keep trying you may find some) Why do just repeat the lies from the left? Please be very specific about what Ryan's budget lied about. And don't just repeat left leaning economists talking points. Most non-partisan economists are 100% sure that we need to fix some of our entitlement programs.

Come on, Seeking, add to the discussion something other than "you righties are stupid liars, the GOP sucks". Are you capable? I bet you're going to say that I'm just a crazy GOPer.

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:24 PM EST

JH - you're a tool - plain and simple. EVERY economist who reviewed Ryan's budget said it would not accomplish what he said and the numbers are all wrong.

Now, little boy, you're a waste of time. Your stalking and stupidity are tiring and frankly, you're not even a challenge. The NUT here is you and your ilk. Please try to grow up or at least develop a modicum of integrity. You show you have neither integrity nor intelligence.

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:28 PM EST

Just as I thought. GOOD ANSWER. Some things never change.

Keep Seeking. What kind of tool am I? A nut cracker? Got to you did I.

  • 6 votes
#1.15 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:29 PM EST

JH - it was an accurate answer. Too bad you can't handle the truth!

  • 6 votes
#1.16 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:32 PM EST

Seeking Insanity and the truth are not good friends.

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#1.17 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:36 PM EST

As a Democrat I understand people mistrust or just plain hatred of the tea party and most Republicans. However, the country is going broke and it is not just the dems or the reps that have done this to us citizens. It has been both parties trying to retain power and control.

When I joined the democratic party JFK was in charge and president. He believed in small government, low taxes and letting private companies work for solutions to our problems. (he also wanted to kill off the military industrial complex) He ask us the citizens to help our government not our government to help us.

He did not pit one class of people (rich, poor, black, white, brown, green, catholic, christen, hindo, jewish or muslium) against each other instead he preached for helping each other. Look at the way we have talked to each other and about each other in this thread.

We need to work together to solve the countries problems not attack each other. The spending and taxation in America is has to change we spend to much. We also tax the rich (or supposed rich) to pay for programs that we don't need. There is an estimated 100 to 200 billion spent every year on programs that perform the same function. There is another estimated 250 billion fraud and waste in the federal budget and 47% of American's don't pay a dime in income tax. While 8% of Americans pay over 50% of the budget. Is that fair?

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#1.18 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:43 PM EST

funnygirl2, our founders clearly wrote it is Congress that is supposed to lead on these matters. Congress decides the spending and if necessary, Congress even overrides a President's veto.

It is the President's job to implement the spending according to what Congress approves.

Maybe we should give you a citizenship test.

  • 5 votes
#1.19 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:21 PM EST

Seeking can't comprehend the truth! As your buddy FRH would say, go back to playing with your vigina probe!

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#1.20 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:21 PM EST

Tim,

Good post in 1.18.

We need to get past this party line BS and start focusing on solutions. I don't care if a good idea comes from a Rep or a Dem - if it's a good idea let's go with it.

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#1.21 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:23 PM EST

No, Tim, it's not fair. If only greedy, scumbag employers would pay their workforce enough to feed themselves, without food stamps, that 47% would drop right down to 19%.

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#1.22 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:29 PM EST

Caesar is Back

Every Day Seeking Approval says the same damn things about the same posters. You guys suck, you're a liar, you're an idiot, you're a moron. everyday...and everyday

Do you ever stop with the SOS Caesar?

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:29 PM EST

neverbeenfunnygirl - you never miss a chance to show that vulgar, crude, classless and totally lacking in intelligence and integrity are hallmarks of those in the Republican party - like you! Thank you for proving it once again!

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#1.24 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:31 PM EST

Where is the Presidents Budget? How many votes will it get this year?

    #1.25 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:38 PM EST

    News or - he's submitted it just as he has in past years. If they don't agree to it it is up to Congress to propose a new budget. Why hasn't Congress done this?

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    #1.26 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:44 PM EST

    Actually SeekingHelp, he didn't, and said he wasn't goingt. If i'm wrong, it shouldn't be to hard to prove.

      #1.27 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:57 PM EST

      Seeking - you did not even bother to read the article did you because Paul Ryan asked the same question. Where is the Presidents Budget?

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      #1.28 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:04 PM EST

      Dear Seeking, you are - as is often the case - just about the only one on here who is not a tool, a Troll, or just being hateful . . . or all 3 rolled into one. I always enjoy your posts!

      It's really odd how The Haters think that by saying all that crap, about Obama being a liar/socialist/marxist/kenyan/whatever, & "failing to lead" (what exactly do they want him to do? rhetorical; they don't recognize a leader when they see one) that they actually think someone is going to read that garbage & then change their minds! who would be persuaded by their lunacy?!?!

      The Living-in-the-RWNJ-Bubble People then follow that nonsense up by project their paranoia onto us: they say we are mindless followers, low-info-voters, blah blah blah . . . I know you've heard it all.

      Anyway, when all that starts, I just go read something else. If they need this space to scream at each other what only they want to hear, I know i have better things to do. They are totally fear-driven, so whatever helps them sleep at night . . .

      While I admire your efforts\ts to try & reason with them, I can't help but wonder if you ever feel like you are wasting your breath . . . or finger tips, whatever LOL!

      Me, I'm not feeding those Trolls, so I am outa here . . . hope you have a great day! thanks for your efforts to induce some . . . Sanity!

      :-)

      FORWARD!

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      #1.29 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:06 PM EST

      Seeking - Congress usually does its budget process after receiving the Presidents Budget, they don't have the President Budget YET. I wonder which will occur first, the House proposes a budget or President gives his budget to Congress?

        #1.30 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:11 PM EST

        How much of a deficit will Obama's budget have? When will the spending cuts actually come? How are taxes going to be raised? How much is Obama care going to cost next year?

        It will be interesting to see the CBO numbers on Obama's budget.

          #1.31 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:16 PM EST
          magyar27Deleted

          He has submitted a budget every year and has said this year's will be late but will be submitted.

          magyar27 - I have a very good life and no one of your ilk is qualified to judge me. Look at the crude, vulgar comments that I pointed out. As usual with someone of your ilk - who clearly has a miserable life - you fail to call our your comrades on their actions. I pity you and those like you.

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          #1.33 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:45 PM EST

          The only thing Ryan is good at is throwing Gas on GWB depression-fire !!!

          Paul Ryan's famous words, "when I screw up and most of the time I do, you will pay for it" - my promise !!!

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          #1.34 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:27 PM EST

          "he's submitted it just as he has in past years"

          "He has submitted a budget every year and has said this year's will be late but will be submitted."

          So which one is it?

            #1.35 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:42 PM EST

            What irritates me the most is when liberals complain that the House Republicans aren't doing enough when it is likely that the House will pass their second budget before the Senate Democrats pass their first. All of this when about 700,000 hard-working DoD civilian employees face the real possibility of having their pay cut by 20% for up to six months. That is probably the same in all executive branch departments and agencies. It is not funny and it is not banter for both sides to try and place blame. This country has serious financial issues to address and it is time for both sides to get to work. The first thing that needs to be done is for the Senate to pass a budget and appropriations so the work of a conference committee can iron out the differences.

            • 1 vote
            #1.36 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:22 AM EST
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            Interesting comments, now let the Queen of the potty-mouth FR hoi ploi begin her nasty statements, based on opinion and not fact. Begin Dukester, share your vast knowledge.

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            #2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:59 PM EST

            Jealous much?

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            #2.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:02 PM EST

            Funny girl,

            And your comment was based on opinion as well, this is an opinion board after all. I understand that after 8 years of george you are not used to a leader, but evidentaly the rest of us knew we needed one and rejected your brand in rather grand fashion both times.

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            #2.2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:05 PM EST

            Seems as though the only leaders these past five years in the White House have been visitors.

            GWB was not a conservative, but he was hands down a much better leader than Obama.

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            #2.3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:08 PM EST

            MSNBCMFE AND Union Baby - neverbeenfunnygirl is trying very hard. First she lied about working for a covert government agency -now she's just grasping for any straw she can. Sometimes she's worth a chuckle - most of the time she's just dumb! Today it's the "just dumb" pile for neverbeen!

            Bookem'Danno - BUSH was by far the worst President in modern time and will hold that title for all time. He had NO leadership ability and had Cheney not pulled the strings nothing would have ever been done. Unfortunatley they decided American lives were not important and allowed 9/11/2001 to happen then sent more to die in their disgusting quest for Iraq's oil. NO LEADERSHIP was EVER evident in the Bush Administration!

            • 11 votes
            #2.4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:11 PM EST

            Seeking, and most of the time she is just wrong, sorry Bookem, I guess you were not living in the USA like I was when georgie sat at he helm looking like he forgot the x-lax and pepto after a night of routine heavy drinking. And no, he never led anything, he let Rove and Cheney do that, which is why we are in a mess right now. who knows, maybe if george had spoken up we might have found out that he is not totally ignorant, and maybe, just maybe things would have been better - but unfortunately he did not have the courage or intelligence to do that.

            • 11 votes
            #2.5 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:16 PM EST

            Seeking,

            So very true. I'm glad you're here, btw, fighting the good fight.

            • 10 votes
            #2.6 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:20 PM EST

            Union & MSNBCMFE - thank you both!

            • 9 votes
            #2.7 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:24 PM EST

            but evidentaly the rest of us knew we needed one and rejected your brand in rather grand fashion both times.

            care to show an example of Oblamo Leading? you can do it...maybe you can cite Obamacare, or Sequestration or Fast n Furious, or Benghazi..Sure you can. why are we not in this grand golden age the liberals would love you to believe in? Like Santa clause, it doesnt exist. I know, we can blame the GOP, Bush and Rove and the worlds problems will go away.

            fighting the good fight.

            she does a good job like a good Proletariat..probably up for the Order of Lenin...too bad Seeking Approval is also Fisty's lapdog

            • 6 votes
            #2.8 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:26 PM EST

            Seeking Insanity & Union Bitch, Tennessee - GW lead a Baseball team, an oil company, and our country to a war victory in Iraq, and a successful war on terror. Obama did what?

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            #2.9 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:26 PM EST

            geo - yes and he put two companies into bankruptcy all the while getting an SBA loan while his Dad was President. He led the country into a war knowing full well the information presented to Congress was a total lie; he didn't even try to avoid the 9/11/2001 attack even though he had been warned on several occasions that the country would be attacked using our own planes; he led nothing successfully except over 4,000 of our brave men and women to deaths they never deserved, fighting his worthless war which we had no reason to fight!

            • 12 votes
            #2.10 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:30 PM EST

            bubblegum

            • 3 votes
            #2.11 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:31 PM EST

            MSNBCMFE - By good fight you are talking about the most Americans ever on Food Stamps & in Poverty? Because thats about the only fight Obama's been successful at.

            • 4 votes
            #2.12 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:32 PM EST

            Seeking Insanity - Since you can not answer what Obama has lead, I will help you. Higher Unemployment, lowest Union membership in decades, slowest economic recovery ever, no budgets, lack of vision, no promised entitlement reforms, a partisan Washington, out of control debt, small buisness crippled, Obamacare taxes looming, foreign policy nightmares in Bengazi 4 dead, a Nuclear Iran,etc.etc.

            • 7 votes
            #2.13 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:50 PM EST

            Are you gargling funkygirl? That sounded like gargling... Anyway, what's with this "Coy" reference? Don't they mean to say "Refuses to divulge!"?

            As fro questioning Obama's Leadership skills... That's pretty rich coming from apologist members of the Repugnant Party he led right off the cliff!

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            #2.14 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:59 PM EST

            Seeking, you seem to have lost the truth again. I never stated I worked for some covert agency of the Feds. It's your lie, not mine. I mentioned I worked with a military organization.

            Go back to playing with your vigina probe - "a FRH comment often used by her.

            Your Duke ed is lacking boobie.

            • 2 votes
            #2.15 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:25 PM EST

            Funny Girl, learn how the U.S. Government works.

            Our founders despised kings and royal families, that is why they gave the responsibility to Congress to decide spending levels.

            Remember when Republican Cantor publicly admitted that he intentionally sabotaged the President's Grand Bargain. Only to have Republican media call it the biggest mistake in Republican history.

            • 5 votes
            #2.16 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:27 PM EST

            neverbeenfunny - again you show you are vulgar, crude and classless - exactly what we expect from someone of your caliber!

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            #2.17 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:33 PM EST

            Hey guys! Wasn't it Georgie Boy who flew onto a carrier and forecast that the "Mission (would be) Accomplished"

            • 6 votes
            #2.18 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:39 PM EST

            Yep Louie, it was Bush that flew on the carrier to make that statement.

            Moving on, didn't Obama indicate a couple of years ago that the US is in recovery, the recession is over? Or how about that Arab Spring statement. Ot how about the nation doesn't have a spending problem, it has a revenue problem?

            Or maybe you are like those libbies that feel the sky is falling. Now having seen normal traffic at the airport, life goes on. Imagine, you are concerned about removing some of the future spending from an already inflated spending budget.

            Are you telling me that you can't reduce 2% from your future raise if you had to? So you earn $X, believe you'll see a $5K raise and your boss tells you your raise will be 2% less. What would you tell him/her, you will have to go on welfare rather than accept 2% less?

            @Debbie lost of numbers, since Congress is accountable for budgets, why is Obama whinning about his lack of spending? Let Congress act.

            How often has the president produced a budget request that was accepted by Congress? Never.

            How many times has the House submitted legislation to the Senate for their approval or change? Often.

            How often did the Leader of the Senate, Harry Reid, table House legislation rather than have a vote? Numerous times.

            How often has the Senate produced their own legislation to send back to the House for discussion and vote? NONE.

            Yes, those Progressive folks from the real party of NO, can't do anything other than pass-the-buck while avoiding their responsibilities under the law.

            And meanwhile, Obama does road trips to demonize the opposition rather than staying home to create a reasonable solution.

            @ Potty Mouth, how's that probe working for ya?

            • 1 vote
            #2.19 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:24 PM EST

            Since neverbeenfunnychild has no clue how the process works let's again tell her. The President submits a budget as he has every year (this year's will be late as he has already said). If Congress doesn't approve the budget, it is up to them to propose changes and work from there.

            Again, you are vulgar, crude, classless and have the intellect of a rock!

            • 2 votes
            #2.20 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:48 PM EST

            SeekingHelp, actually, it's been late every year... and this year it will be super late.

            For the record, can you tell us all how many "yay" votes his last 4 budget's have gotten?

              #2.21 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:44 PM EST
              Reply

              I'm sorry, but if I buy a car and take out a 3 year loan with payments of $400 a month, at the end of those 36 months I didn't get a raise because i've paid off the car loan. Why do Dem's think that's the case?

              • 3 votes
              Reply#3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:02 PM EST

              Chip, that would be because we work for a living (not silver spoon fed by the wealthy), you see the $400 would be a raise for us, an accomplishment for us, and more money back in our pockets. Of course, since I refuse to have a car loan it is a mute point for me, know I'm gonna need a new or nearly new car about every 8 to 10 years so I save up and pay cash. You should try it, very good budgeting tool.

              • 11 votes
              #3.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:08 PM EST

              Only a democrat would think paying off a loan would constitute getting a raise.

              • 4 votes
              #3.2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:19 PM EST

              You completely missed the point of the analogy, Union. Having the money as discretionary income is not an increase in your income, it is a shift in budget.

              • 5 votes
              #3.3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:21 PM EST

              So, your bank account does not increase if you no longer pay out the extra money? Man, am I ever gonna be sad in about 18 months when I pay off my mortgage! Well, I guess it is all dependent on how you think about money, anytime I pay off anything it is an increase in cash for me and that is a win/win although I just don't believe in spending money if you don't have it other than the mortgage because I'm not wealthy enough to buy a house outright. When you look at a balance sheet and have extra money from something you are no longer paying, it most certainly is counted as an increase in cash/income.

              • 8 votes
              #3.4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:26 PM EST

              No union my bank account doesn't increase, because that $400 goes to pay off my mortgage faster. I, like you and the Dem's, don't find another place to spend it.

                #3.5 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:13 PM EST

                no, my income remains the same, but my outflow changes.

                When you pay off your mortgate, your income remains the same, but your payments will be less. It doesn't mean you make any more money.

                  #3.6 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                  Bookem, youmust not be a Dem.

                    #3.7 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:02 PM EST

                    Nope - libertarian

                      #3.8 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:19 PM EST
                      Reply

                      ryan couldn't even do his own taxes correctly so how in the hell is he going to handle a trillion dollar budget?

                      • 7 votes
                      Reply#4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:05 PM EST

                      Where has Obama's budget been for the last 4 years? Oh, that's right - there has been NONE.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:14 PM EST

                      Well, he endorsed the Simpson Boles budget, unfortunately the republicans wouldn't do it cause you know, their buds may not get the new yacht or trip abroad if they did.

                      • 8 votes
                      #4.2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:21 PM EST

                      Proud to be - President Obama has submitted a budget every year. Once submitted it is up to Congress to either pass it or amend it and get one passed. As usual, Congress is holding eveyrthing up!

                      • 6 votes
                      #4.3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:25 PM EST

                      Same old Blame Game.........blame Congress, blame Republicans, blame Bush. Look out the window - it's snowing today - let's blame it on the snow...........

                      • 6 votes
                      #4.4 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:31 PM EST
                      magyar27Deleted
                      magyar27Deleted

                      magyar27 - civics lesson. It is up to the Congress to work together to submit an amended budget. Again, the Republicans are refusing to even consider any changes the Democrats are proposing. So, Republicans are obstructing.

                      • 1 vote
                      #4.7 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:50 PM EST

                      The senate has not presented one. Using talking points is not submitting a budget. They have not put anything in writing because they are afraid of it coming back to them.

                        #4.8 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:23 PM EST
                        Reply

                        Unless Ryan's plan includes revenue increases as well as slashing spending it won't work. We need, as President Obama has been saying, a balanced approach which means both revenue increases and spending cuts. As revenue increases can be achieved in a number of ways there should be no problem with them. Also coming to light are spending that is totally unnecessary. Why can't volunteers guide tours through the White House and why should cabinet members have oil paintings made of them? The cost of each may be in the thousands but those little things add up. Each department surely has some junk spending that we can cut without cutting vital programs.

                        A temporary 2 or 3% increase on income tax for millionaires and billionaires won't hurt them. If we get more people working more people will pay taxes and if those jobs are well paying the tax revenue from them will be higher lessening the burden on the extremely wealthy to the point that we may be able to bring the tax down that 2 to 3% on the wealthy at some point later on.

                        The cause of our deficit is that we spent too much on wars and put it on the credit card. The credit card is due and now we must pay. We sent jobs overseas and put people out of work. When people are out of work they don't contribute taxes but, instead, get money from the government in unemployment and possibly food stamps etc. Out of work people don't necessarily have medical insurance (probably don't) so if they need to continue treatment they got when they had insurance they won't be able to get it and will turn to th e ER for treatment when things get so bad their life is threatened. That costs everyone else money.

                        And your comment was based on opinion as well, this is opinion board after all. I understand that after 8 years of george you are not used to a leader, but evidentaly the rest of us knew we needed one and rejected your brand in rather grand fashion both times.

                        Opinions are like navels, everyone has one. Fortunately in a democracy each one's opinion is as valuable as the other's.

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#5 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:20 PM EST

                        Adler,

                        first off there is no such thing as a temporary tax increase.

                        We already have several tax hikes that are going to effect the supposed rich. You will also notice that the level or the income of the "rich" keeps on dropping. Pretty soon it will be someone making $50,000.00 grand a year.

                        You also do not take into account how many states are also raising taxes on the "Rich". Nobody should pay more than 35% of their income in taxes.

                        The budget is above the historical level, meaning that historically the federal spending equals about 20% or less of GDP. Presently we have a budget that is closer to 24% of GDP.

                        Getting Rich is part of the American dream. Working hard and having something to show for it when you retire is part of the American dream. Right now all we have is government spending that is out of control. In the state i am living at they are talking about passing a bill that would require baby sitters to charge a tax. How freaken stupid is that? It is almost as stupid as forcing home day care providers to join a union. How is a self employed person supposed to join a union? Who would they negotiate with?

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                        #5.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:25 PM EST
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                        The Ryan budget will come with a pen that requires blood to be drawn.....LOL.

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                        Reply#6 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:22 PM EST

                        For all you posters that like to gripe about "where is Obama's budget?"; why don't you Google George Bush budget and see what the last (less than) illustrious Republican did? How many budgets did he propose or pass...oh wait it's Congress that passes the budget. Per Wikipedia:

                        The Budget of the United States Government often begins as the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress which recommends funding levels for the next fiscal year, beginning October 1. However, Congress is the body required by law to pass a budget annually and to submit the budget passed by both houses to the President for signature.

                        As you may have noted above while the process "often begins' with the President, the President is not required to do anything in the budget creation process. Tell your Republican Congressman that you want them to do their job! Let's face it, G. Bush Sr. hit it correctly, Republican economics = Voodoo economics. The numbers do not make sense for our country unless you happen to be in the top 2%.

                        The Party of NO has got to GO in 2014!

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                        Reply#7 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:27 PM EST

                        Ryan is being coy because if he told America what he really intends to do, he would be soundly rejected.

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                        #7.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:16 PM EST
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                        Cash flow= the net you have coming in over a defined period. Raise= the increase in cash flow coming in over a defined period. See libs it's easy to understand economics when you have a helpful conservative to do definitions for you.

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                        Reply#8 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:28 PM EST

                        Obama should listen to Ryan. He has the right approach that is grounded in reality. Obama should stop listening to the likes of Paul Krugman who will only accelerate the USA becoming like Greece and Spain.

                          Reply#9 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:42 PM EST

                          A perfect solution to cutting the budget would be to just do away with Obamacare...it seems like almost everyday we hear about more adverse effects this law is going to have on pretty near every citizen. If Obama is so interested and concerned about people losing their jobs or having their hours cut back because of the sequestration, getting rid of Obamacare should be a great idea.

                            Reply#10 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:55 PM EST

                            really, Juanita? Care to list the adverse effects the law has had? I mean, besides upsetting Republicans, who would prefer people just die.

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                            #10.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:17 PM EST

                            The only effect of Obamacare on anyone I know is, a girl I know will be ale to get needed surgery, when the provision against denying coverage for pre existing conditions goes into effect.

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                            #10.2 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:41 PM EST

                            So I would hope you are for Obamacare. Since it is going to help your friend.

                            Hope and pray all is well.

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                            #10.3 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:59 PM EST

                            The ACA attempts to deal with one of the biggest causes of healthcare cost inflation in this country, and that is by attempting to reduce the large number of uninsured whose unpaid bills add to inflation of healthcare costs. Those inflated healthcare costs add significantly to the federal deficit through Medicaid and especially, Medicare.

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                            #10.4 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:17 AM EST
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                            except for a few posts here,middle class posts that is,i've seem to turn on the numbnut channel.

                              Reply#11 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:21 PM EST

                              http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/06/17209817-dow-pierces-through-14300-mark-for-first-time?d=1

                              Obama is in office....ooooh thats gotta hurt. ooooh.

                              Pick three Nine Inch Nails America there alot around for Paul Ryan.

                              Go fish yourself Ryan and stop making others give you money.

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                              Reply#12 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:59 PM EST

                              Did you know that Paul Ryan is worth 4.5 million dollars and still he earns a paycheck that comes from American tax payers money.

                              Did you know that he will probably retire with an a retirement of around $200,000 a year for the rest of his life.

                              Why should politcians who are worth 4.5 million dollars earn a paycheck that is taken from tax dollars along with a retirement that is taken from tax dollars as well?

                              Does Paul Ryan really need that money he is earning as a paycheck that comes from tax payer's when he is worth 4.5 million dollars?

                              Sounds he and the other politicians need to start making cuts to their paycheck and put the money back into the system instead of joyfully taking from Americans when the politician does not need what they are taking.

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                              Reply#13 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:14 PM EST

                              I agree they should participate in any sequester cuts. That said, just because someone has achieved success financially does not require them to give up their income. This is not Soviet Russia. Oh, forgot, they do not do that either.

                                #13.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:47 AM EST
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                                Do not kid yourselves - TEA-quest-traitors do not want compromise.

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                                Reply#14 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:52 PM EST

                                Seeking Sanity and fellow Liberals must be proud of themselves to elect the Ten Most Wanted Corrupted Politicians (Judicial Watch) and Yes they also list Republicans, Most of them are Democrats go figure. Click on the names, Liberals can't dispute the facts only lie. Notice the Top 3 Ranking Democrats are on the list. Democrats sure love picking crooks to run this country. Rudy why should we compromise with crooks?

                                Dishonorable Mentions for 2011

                                Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)

                                http://www.judicialwatch.org/corrupt-politicians-lists/

                                  Reply#15 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 5:03 PM EST

                                  We are in this mess because Congress cant help themselves from spending. Take Social Security that money was not to be touched but Congress early on, which was controlled by Democrats, just couldn't resist a pile of money sitting off to the side. So they create IOU's to the Social Security Trust Fund and voila we have the problem we have now.

                                  It is impossible to tax our way out of debt. We have to cut spending which means entitlement and safety net programs will have to be changed or cut. Its common sense.

                                  What Obama and Dems want is campaign fodder to try and win the House back in 2014. They have no interest in improving or helping this country...they just want to remain in power. At least the Republicans are coming up with ideas, they may not be the best ideas but at least they are put out there for people to think about.

                                  Just like the budget the House passes one and they get criticized and the Senate plays it safe for the past 4 years and doesn't pass one living on continuing resolutions just like a debtor living off payday loans to pay bills.

                                    Reply#16 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 6:26 PM EST

                                    We can't cut our way out either. The only way out is Job growth.

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                                    #16.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:00 PM EST

                                    We certainly cannot cut our way out of the deficit mess either. While it will require spending cuts, especially to the biggest spending items--the defense and Medicare--MOST IMPORTANTLY, it will require tax increases, especially to pay for nearly $2 trillion in recent debt accrued by wars started by the repub-controlled congress and white house accompanied by the additional debt from doubling of the military budget and, incredibly at the same time--tax cuts!!!!

                                      #16.2 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:12 AM EST

                                      Total wealth of the US everything we as a nation owns is 44T. We owe 16T and if the Rich 1% control 52% of that wealth we can take everything from them pay off the debt and have a budget for 2 years. It is stupid and silly to think we can raise enough taxes from the rich to handle this debt. No any tax solution in reality will be carried by the middle class. SO how can we create jobs when the innovators of the future are in the middle class right now. How do we create jobs when someone can live better on the Governments nickel instead of working. The system the Dems want is class warfare and results in more people being pushed into the arms of the government welfare or a backdoor Socialist society. The Republicans may not have all the answers but they now that keep taxes low gives incentive to hold onto wealth and invest it. Where the Republicans loose is this method means sometimes you have to tell someone sorry you have to make it on your own we cant afford for you to live off the government forever.

                                        #16.3 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 1:03 AM EST

                                        How do we create jobs when someone can live better on the Governments nickel instead of working. The system the Dems want is class warfare and results in more people being pushed into the arms of the government welfare or a backdoor Socialist society

                                        That is a really tired argument. Like it are not, the population is growing and people are living on the streets. It's not because they are to lazy to work, it's because there aren't enough jobs.

                                        The middle class wages have stagnated for the last 20 years under the new world economy while the top 1% gains have sky rocketed. We have to find a way to bring back the middle class tax base. At this point I don't know how that can be done because industrial revolution in this country is over for the time being. We have become intellectual property owners transferring the manufacturing task to less expensive countries. Innovations, new technology and manufacturing has always drove the wealth of this country. Until we come up with some new technology that will induce companies to invest and build new businesses in this country and therefore creating demand and jobs, we will remain in this slow growth mode.

                                        In the 19th century it was private individuals that drove the innovation behind the industrial revolution. Starting in the 1930's continuing through WWII, the cold war, the space boom in the 60's and into the 90's, the government drove this innovation. The Internet boom of the late 90's is a good example of results of government investment in the search for new technologies. In the 80's someone coined the name "big government" and then went on the demonize government as some bloated freeloading entity that was a drain on the economy, robbing people of their wealth and needed to cut off at the knees. Since that time we have tried to starve the beast while asking it to do more. Now here we are stagnating still trying to starve government, all the while our infrastructure is crumbling, and we are saying "the private sector are the job creators" and they are the only ones that will bring us out of this fog. The private sector will never go out of the box and invest in bold new, wide and far reaching research that will change the technological landscape. They will remain in a narrow focus window of proven technology that can produce fruit in the short term. For the pass 12 years the private sector has sold us out and the politicians have made far reaching strategic and tactical mistakes. They have screwed everything up to the point where it might take a genie to get us out of this.

                                          #16.4 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:45 PM EST
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                                          All aboard the crazy train. Next stop the other side of stupid.

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                                          Reply#17 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:28 PM EST

                                          Hey wait. When Raygun asked for and got a raise in the FICA tax, he said that it was necessary to carry SS the baby boomers' retirement. He said he would safeguard SS thru this measure. WHERE'S the MONEY??? WHY isnt SS safeguarded??? Oh, I know, he changed his mind ( or he lied) and spent the money. Nearly tripling the debt was much more important! In fact, he started the GOP trend of driving up debt so that eventually they could privatize SS and Medicare.( Grover Norquist's idea back in 1980) Bush himself said this week that his greatest regret is his failure to privatize SS and Medicare! Republicans are prepared to wager their party's entire existence and the financial welfare of this country, in order to achieve that goal.

                                          HEY RURAL, if the last 3 GOP presidents had NOT signed TWENTY deficit riddled budgets AND saddled Obama with a $1.3T deficit, WE WOULDNT HAVE A DEBT CRISIS! If bush had followed Clinton's blue print and kept the budget in rough balance, WE WOULDNT HAVE ANY DEBT by now!

                                          Let's put the responsibility where it belongs!

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                                          Reply#18 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 7:28 PM EST

                                          Tom:

                                          I'm so happy to see someone who knows the facts and will tell it like it is, or was.

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                                          #18.1 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:04 PM EST

                                          never seen a 1.3 trillon budget under bush..oh, thats right. .the last 4 years were bushes fault.

                                            #18.2 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:38 AM EST

                                            jolly joker

                                            Is that all of you have to say?

                                              #18.3 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:39 PM EST
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                                              Hey Ryan, the bad news is that we ARE going to have more weather related disasters because the sea level is rising. There is no way that is NOT going to happen. Whether global warming results in more extreme weather is something with a lot less certainty. Maybe the increase in high altitude winds will create a less favorable environment But that effect might be overridden by the increase in sea surface temperature. Who knows?

                                              What we do know is that coastal communities are going to suffer increasing storm damage. We are going to have to choose which areas are suitable for rebuilding and which are not. That's going to cost money. We're also going to have more communities torched by wildfire. That's going to cost money. If your budget balances only because you're ignoring costs and shifting burdens to unidentified agencies, then it's just another lie like your last one.

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                                              Reply#19 - Wed Mar 6, 2013 10:52 PM EST

                                              Help! Not another budget bill from Ryan!! You know it will entail more massive spending cuts to food stamps, Medicaid and all programs that help the poor and disadvantaged and BIG SPENDING INCREASES to the military. And of course, Ryan will again attempt to end Medicare and access to healthcare for most future seniors by privatizing them and allowing private insurance to price them out of the market.

                                                Reply#20 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:04 AM EST

                                                I would rather have the sequestration than his budget. He wants to expand the military as if this is going to make my corrigated steal house safer.Nope. cut defense and keep it cut.

                                                  #20.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:40 AM EST
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                                                  well for all the naysayers, the POTUS and the WH has a posted deficit reduction plan out there in cyberland and has had it there for months. the GOPers are unaware of this posting and its broad spectrum. The WH administration has cut 300 billion from the deficit and is on line to reduce it by 600 billion during fiscal year 2013. And these are facts not horse@!$%# like Boehner, Cantor and Ryan dish up to an ignorant base and general public. And while you are about, have a look at what used to be the GOP platform and what they stood for - read the 1956 GOP platform and get ready for a shock. Dwight David had it together and made those promises come true while today's GOP is in a state of Devolution, holding onto the most prosaic and egregious ideologies that will most assuredly tumble this country into a deeper abyss and further separate the dwindling middle class, the below poverty level folks from the4 1% who have it all and are gaining mroe each day.

                                                  GOP, you are dying and you cannot admit your disease, ergo how can you recover.

                                                  Good riddance

                                                    Reply#21 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:02 AM EST

                                                    Could you post the specifics on how its to be done? No , you cant. I would like to end world hunger, world wars and make everyone kings. see, that's my agenda. I want it all done for you , no poor people. all is well. VOTE for me.

                                                      #21.1 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:16 AM EST
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                                                      Seeking says that Obama will submit a budget, but he is running late. Yea, five years late, and no he has never produced a budget. Asking for a blank check and a debt ceiling increase is not a budget. We have spent five years in continuing resoloution status. Congress has proposed itemized budgets repeatedly, but Obama will not accept limitations to his debt or spending until congress cuts funding. That is where we are.

                                                        Reply#22 - Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:10 AM EST

                                                        these ryan lovers here a mere little lambs to the slaughter

                                                        pathetic

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