Boehner & others said the Sequester was the "worst thing" a few months ago.

Now, GOPers consider it a Victory.

The callous gits are allergic to Job Creation.

GOP:

Cutting a million jobs - instead of a balanced approach of spending + revenues - is all the ideas they got.

You got the revenues, where are the cuts? Then we can talk about more revenues and then more cuts and then more revenues and then more cuts. See how that works? One side gives and then the other and repeat.

Fire your news source?

All the Sequester DID was cut.

The only revenues permitted by GOP were in the Fiscal cliff: When the over $450K went back to Clinton rates.

Talk - where have you been that you don't know about the cuts? And, this was what Boehner wanted, remember? He said he got 99% of everything he wanted.

Closing tax loopholes should NOT be that hard for anyone to vote for - oh wait, forgot - the obstructionists on the right were for it until they were against it!

Talk to the Hand - You must be crazy or have never debated a lib before.

I said before, I would take credit for the cuts. We need them. Spread the pain across the board. There, I just made a hard decision no one else could. Whoever claims these first will come out smelling like a rose. Repubs made the first move by saying they were ok with them now. Lets see if Demo's up the ante and try to own them.

In case you didn't notice, the story is about the Democrats voting against the bill.

Okay so we are back to revenues again. And BTW, the cuts were forced by the sequester NOT agreed to or instituted by the receivers of the revenues (dems) as promised. Now we have the draconian edition and you can't stand the fact that you didn't want it and thought it would just go away after the fiscal cliff deal.

Cutting a million jobs

Sky is falling. Bush, Rove and GOP are coming to get you! what does that say about the Democrats?

Spoiler Alert

INEFFECTIVE

Sequester Vote

House Vote: 269-161 with 174 of 240 (73%) Republicans voting for sequester. 95 (50%) of the Democrats voted for the Budget Control Act of 2011 which included the sequester plan if the "super committee" couldn't reach a $1.5 Trillion deficit reduction plan by 11/23/2011.

Senate Vote: 74-26 with 28 of 47 Republicans voting for the Budget Control Act of 2011.

When YOU lose YOUR job, or YOUR government safety net securities:

THEN come on here talking about the sky falling.

Got kids?

Geez, Talk to, that's a talking point line of baloney. Conservatives both here and in Congress talk big about deficit and debt reduction but clearly aren't serious about either. The GOP got their sequester cuts, now they're trying to change the equation and cut more from the general fund and add it to defense spending.

Democrats did NOT get all the revenue required to get serious about deficit and debt reduction during Boehner's 4th self-inflicted fiscal crisis--only taxes on those making more than $450,000 instead of the $250,000 requested which reduced the amount of revenue added. Time to rid the tax code of the special-inerest loopholes. It is hardly fair that multi-million/billion hedgefund manager yearly earnings have a giant loophole to keep their taxes below what most middle income earners pay. Closing tax loopholes to reduce the deficit makes a whole lot more sense than what the GOP has proposed which is nothing but smoke and mirrors. It's Simpson Bowles 101, that plan GOPers loved so much.

As I recall, closing tax loopholes were offered to the president during the fiscal cliff negotiations but he refused to discuss them. In fact, when it was a campaign issue they wanted the exact details of which loopholes and started fear mongering. Now would someone please provide me links (not someone speculating) to the exact details of the loopholes Obama is proposing to close.

Of course since the bad Bush tax cuts raised more revenues than ever last year, the prez and the left just need to STFU.

@backhouse -- Yeah I have kids and grand kids and I want the damn president and the left to quit stealing from them and destroying their future.

@Dennis -- left out one little progression -- the president SIGNED it and owns it.

Put your effing faux parrot away.

Right here and now, folks are spelling out the facts for you.

A million in lost jobs due to the Sequester.

750,000 jobs cut by Republican governors.

Colorado Man, democrats are voting against the bill because it's a piece of junk. The bill takes another $108 million in cuts, in addition to the automatic sequester cut amounts, from the general fund and adds it to the defense budget. Plus the bill allows the Defense Dept leeway in determining what is cut and how much BUT does NOT allow the other departments the same leeway. Boehner and the GOP should be ashamed to call it legislation.

Ben, the GOPers voted for it; otherwise, President Obama could not have signed it! Stop pointing your finger one way, there's three others pointing back at your side.

Talk,

The sequester WAS agreed to by the Dems. After all it became law and the last time I looked our current POTUS who proposed it and signed it into law is a Democrat.

When will you be graduating from high school?

So the Dems are turning to NO?

The sequester WAS agreed to by the Dems. After all it became law and the last time I looked our current POTUS is a Democrat.

Republicans signed on (majority of them) too. It was supposed to be so bad the f'ers would not allow it to happen. If they can't come up with a BALANCED plan to cut the deficit it won't fly. We've already had far more cuts than revenue (which the right seems to have forgotten) and without closing stupid loopholes and increasing revenue, I hope the first cuts are in red states. And I am tired of MY tax dollars going to those welfare states.

Ben,

(Aug 01, 2011) President Obama signed the bill (Budget Control Act of 2011) shortly after it was passed by the Senate. In doing so, the president said, "Is this the deal I would have preferred? No. But this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year." This is what the President said after signing the Budget Control Act which included the “sequester” agreement.

Backhouse -

When YOU lose YOUR job

I did in the private sector in 2009. Now it is the governments turn to pay. Stretch it across the board as the president would say.

BEN #'s clucks:

Now would someone please provide me links (not someone speculating) to the exact details of the loopholes Obama is proposing to close.

Here you go BEN --

Below are some of the tax breaks that Obama has targeted for closure in the past and the ones that are in the Senate bill.

OBAMA TARGETS

CARRIED INTEREST. Preferential treatment for private equity, venture capital and other financial managers that lets them pay the 20 percent capital gains rate on much of their income, instead of the higher individual income tax rate on wages.

OIL AND GAS SUBSIDIES. Energy sector tax breaks including the oil and gas well-depletion allowance; the domestic manufacturing deduction on oil and gas, and expensing of intangible drilling costs.

LAST IN, FIRST OUT (LIFO) ACCOUNTING. An accounting technique used in some industries, especially oil and gas. Companies say this change would force them to revalue old inventory to higher prices.

PROFIT DEFERRAL. A deduction for interest expenses on foreignearnings for deferred taxes.

FOREIGN TAX CREDIT POOLING. A loophole that lets companies claim more in tax credits than would be paid in U.S. taxes by altering which of their foreign units pay out dividends.

INTANGIBLE PROPERTY. A tax break that allows U.S. companies to shelter overseas profits derived from intangible property, such as royalties from drug patents.

CORPORATE JETS. A tax break used by corporate jet owners to depreciate fleets.

MINIMUM OVERSEAS PROFITS TAX. A minimum tax on overseas profits and using the revenues to help companies invest in the United States.

DEMOCRATS' SENATE BILL

BUFFETT RULE. Named after billionaire investor Warren Buffett, a new 30 percent minimum tax would be applied on household adjusted gross income, phased in between incomes of $1 million to $5 million.

OIL FROM TAR SANDS. Oil derived from tar sands would be added to a list of petroleum products that pay into a liability trust fund to help clean up after oil spills.

DEDUCTION FOR MOVING OVERSEAS. This provision would end the ability of companies to take tax deductions for costs associated with moving plants and jobs overseas.

FISCAL CLIFF TAX BREAKS

Even as partisans squabble over tax loopholes, some of the same types of tax breaks were included in the year-end "fiscal cliff" deal increasing most individual tax rates.

OFFSHORE FINANCING INCOME. Renewed a tax break on financing income abroad used by major corporations like General Electric.

WIND ENERGY. Extended a tax credit for wind energy.

BONUS DEPRECIATION. Extended, in part, a tax break that lets businesses immediately depreciate certain new capital outlays and equipment investments.

R&D CREDIT. Renewed a credit for research and development. Politically popular, the credit is heavily used by software, drug and aerospace companies. Some say the credit helps the biggest companies that would do the research even without it.

(Reporting by Kim Dixon; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh and Philip Barbara)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/01/us-usa-taxes-loopholes-idUSBRE92011C20130301

TO: Talk to the Hand who wrote:

"You got the revenues, where are the cuts? Then we can talk about more revenues and then more cuts and then more revenues and then more cuts. See how that works? One side gives and then the other and repeat."

From what I've seen, Republicans are either unwilling or unable to negotiate in good faith, and the GOP is constantly going after the President of the United States to try to make him look bad anyway they can.

Short story, Republicans just cannot be trusted, even on small things Republicans have proven to be untrustworthy.

AG, and what signs have Obama and Reid shown they want to negotiate in good faith.

I mean if Obama was a real leader, this problem would have been solved 2 years ago by backing Simpson Bowles.

And if the last 2 weeks of "the sky is falling", Obama has show the nation and the world he can't be trusted.

TO: Jody, Iowa who wrote:

"Colorado Man, democrats are voting against the bill because it's a piece of junk. The bill takes another $108 million in cuts, in addition to the automatic sequester cut amounts, from the general fund and adds it to the defense budget. Plus the bill allows the Defense Dept leeway in determining what is cut and how much BUT does NOT allow the other departments the same leeway. Boehner and the GOP should be ashamed to call it legislation.

Ben, the GOPers voted for it; otherwise, President Obama could not have signed it! Stop pointing your finger one way, there's three others pointing back at your side."

BEST POST !

This is funny, now the Democrats want to OBSTRUCT the cuts of sequestration included in the Continuing Resolutions ! But since Obama has NEVER provided the leadership to actually get a BUDGET passed ... the ongoing need for continuing resolutions will be hanging out there !

Then, of course, we have the scare-masters from the left who FAIL to realize that the Sequester does little more than SLOW DOWN the growth of government spending ! The U.S. will still spend more money than last year, but the leftist spending "junkies" don't think the "fix" is enough ! LOL !!

Yes, as Ben clearly explained in #1.13, John Boehner wanted to go after "loopholes" with the fiscal cliff deal .... but Barack Obama would not even listen to his ideas ! He wanted a tax rate hike on the wealthy. Between Obamacare and the fiscal cliff deal, taxes have ALREADY been raised twice !! Now, Bam-Bam is kicking and screaming like a brat in the grocery store because he is greedy and wants even MORE REVENUE to redistribute, while doing everything to prevent spending cuts ! What a maroon !!

"Plus the bill allows the Defense Dept leeway in determining what is cut and how much BUT does NOT allow the other departments the same leeway. Boehner and the GOP should be ashamed to call it legislation."

Don't you remember the Senate Dem's already voted this idea down... why are you and they so worried about it now? What hypocrites.

@DCIA -- Thanks. Disjointed story though.

TO: Chip D-2844144 who wrote:

"AG, and what signs have Obama and Reid shown they want to negotiate in good faith.

I mean if Obama was a real leader..."

Well, so far all I've seen is non-stop attacks on the President by the GOP, and the reason the GOP won't "negotiate" with their democratic counterparts in the House and Senate is because Republicans are concentrating all their efforts on "the black guy in the White House".

President Obama has no problem in "leading" the Democrats, as we proved by re-electing him.

Because Boehner has no control whatsoever over his Republican Teabaggers is not our fault, nor is it our responsibility.

As usual, Republicans are totally incapable of "manning up" and "accepting responsibility" for their own caucus because there's too many "out of control wackos" in the House and Boehner can't reason with any of them.

Sorry you lost your job previously.

9,000,000 Americans lost their jobs due to the Great Recession.

6 million private sector jobs have been created over the last 3 years - without GOP's help.

GOP governors CUT 750,000 government jobs.

(Under previous Presidents, govt jobs were INCREASED during a recession.)

And now GOP considers A MILLION JOB LOSSES to be a Victory.

YUK.

"Well, so far all I've seen is non-stop attacks on the President by the GOP, and the reason the GOP won't "negotiate" with their democratic counterparts in the House and Senate is because Republicans are concentrating all their efforts on "the black guy in the White House"."

The race card really? Your 4 years behind here.

And like Pelosi and Reid worked so well with Bush in 2007 and 2008. It wasn't the GOP's actions that led to the biggest Dem loss in almost a century, it was the actions of Pelosi, Reid and Obama. But screw history and facts, just pull the race card.

Backhouse, keep up the shilling. First it was 700K job, then 800K, then 850K, now 1 million!

Air planes were supposed to fall out of the sky, we were going to be attacked and the white house was going to have to lay off the help.... 5 days later nothing has happened. In fact airport lines are the same they were last week.

Keep it up fear monger, you are no better than BUSH!

American Girl-724855 - You really need to cool it with the "black guy in the office" rhetoric. You may think that this is the underlying issue but it really isn't. There are some crazy ass white folk out there with lots of big guns and if none of them have even taken a pot shot at the President you better believe racism isn't what it used to be. It is just kept hyped up by a select few that survive on the plight of said oppression. With out that fight their jobs/lives become worthless. See the Rev. Jessie Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton for shining examples. Quit being a tool.

TO: Chip D-2844144 who wrote:

"... And if the last 2 weeks of "the sky is falling", Obama has show the nation and the world he can't be trusted."

Well, IF he exaggerated, and that's yet to be seen, it's absolutely nothing compared to that psyche job George "Curveball" Bush wrapped the country around when he lied all of us into that fake War with Iraq.

Now THAT was lie so big it gives everyone a REASON to not trust Republicans anymore.

Correction to the $108 million number I gave earlier: I just heard that the number is actually $10 Billion in additional cuts to the General Fund which are added to the Defense budget.

The Democrats say NO to the continuing resolution. The Democrats say NO to spending cuts. The Democrats say NO to producing and passing a budget. The Democrats say NO to giving Obama more flexibility to target sequester cuts. But the Democrats do say YES to more tax increases. According to the treasury tax revenue will top 2.7 trillion for the year, which will be the new record. Obama can't find a dime of spending to cut, or the sky will fall, but there are plenty of taxes he still wants to increase. Happy days are here again.

THEN come on here talking about the sky falling.

nope, that is your and your clubhouse friends territory...besides unemployment is the BEST STIMULUS EVAR!

Hold firm. No more cuts until the loop holes are closed. However, I have to go along with Paul Krugman the Nobel Prize-winning economist who says that, "in the near-term, jobs, and not debt, is the most pressing issue."

"Well, IF he exaggerated"

With that comment alone it shows how "drunk" you are by the Koolaid. Obama even admitted to blowing it up. But from you it's "IF" he did.

And do you mean the wars in which Dem's were on the Committee's that back up the info, voted for 12 years to fund and in 2009 expanded the number of troops in Afghanistan?

Job1, so you can't walk and talk at the same time?

By the way, a Nobel prize counts for nothing now a days.... you get one for being elected POTUS and giving a popular speach!

And the loopholes will be closed, when tax reform happens in the summer.

House Dems set to oppose GOP-led stopgap bill

The Dems should abide by their principles and not allow the GOP a chance to poison the political process and destroy the nation's long term prospect.

ABSOLUTELY. The GOP is AGAINST JOBS. Everything they have insisted on is a JOB-KILLER. They kept the $250k+ crowd happy but they gave it to the REST OF US in the TAIL. The 2% payroll tax increase KILLS JOBS. The $400k+ tax increase did NOT EFFECT JOBS. These people spend the same no matter what. They may not SAVE as much but this would just create a BUBBLE anyway. NEXT the GOP wants to INCREASE the Social Security eligibility age and lower benefits. Are they INSANE! The opposite is the correct course. LOWER the eligibility age and RAISE the benefit. Fund it by TAXING EVERY DOLLAR - no CAP. This will allow MILLIONS of HARD-WORKING PEOPLE TO RETIRE and open up MILLIONS OF JOBS. THEN they are against universal health care. THIS IS A TOTAL JOB KILLER! All the small businesses that DO NOT get created because you have to stay in your dead-end job or lose your health insurance.

GOP JOB KILLERS.

GOP JOB KILLERS.

GOP JOB KILLERS.

Pigotry, the current Dem principle and "nation's long term prospect" is bankruptcy under the Obama plan.

How can you be so bad at basic math?

The Nobel Prize won by Paul Krugman is about as meaningful as the one they gave Obama, both were handed out for talk and not action. Krugman has been wrong more then he has been right. Even Joe Scarborough had steam coming out of Krugman's ears in an interview the other night, because Scarborough kept quoting what Krugman had said in the past. If Krugman was flipping a coin he would be right more often. It was great when Scarborough confessed that Krugman took offense to being quoted. Typical liberal, offended by having his own words read back to him.

In 2010, the GOP campaigned on JOBS and took the majority in the House. Since then, they have refused to pass Obama's Jobs Act, and have obstructed nearly every piece of legislation Obama proposed or favored. Now they have let the sequester happen and nearly a million jobs are projected to be lost.

The GOP could care less about jobs. It's all about making sure corporations make money that can be used for political speech to promote conservative candidates, and damn the middle class and their job market.

When will America wake up?

Here's what I don't get:

THE RETHUGLICANS LOST THE ELECTION.

THEY LOST THE PRESIDENCY.

DEM'S GAINED SEATS IN THE SENATE.

DEM'S GAINED SEATS IN THE HOUSE, AND WON MORE VOTES THAN THE RETHUGLICANS, AND WOULD HAVE WON EVEN MORE SEATS BUT FOR GERRYMANDERING.

.

YET THE RETHUGLICANS ARE STILL BEHAVING AS IF THEY WON . . . AND THE DEM'S SEEM TO BE LETTING THEM GET WHAT THEY WANT, AND TO BE - SOMEHOW - POWERLESS - TO GET WHAT WE ***KNOW*** IS RIGHT . . .

.

WHY? (RHETORICAL)

.

We do NOT have a (short term) debt/deficit problem. Pres Obama has already cut as much as is health for this still-recovering economy. If we get to full employment, the long-term deficit will mostly take care of itself. More than 200 economists agree on this: what we need now is GROWTH - JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!! Investment in education, infrastructure, R & D, etc. (I had the link this am, but can't find it now).

.

MR BOEHNER: WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!?!? YOU PROMISED US JOBS, BUT NOW YOU ARE ***CUTTING*** THEM.

.

THIS IS INSANE.

.

THE PRESIDENT NEEDS CITIZEN SUPPORT - WE THE PEOPLE - TO MOVE THIS ECONOMY FORWARD! :-)

IF YOU WANT THE PRESIDENT'S AGENDA, YOU MUST BE WILLING TO ADVOCATE FOR IT, TO FIGHT FOR IS . . . OTHERWISE THE RETHUGLICANS WILL DRAG US BACK TO BEING A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY. WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS!

And the loopholes will be closed, when tax reform happens in the summer.

Tax reform is closing tax loopholes for people like Willard Romney.

Short story, Republicans just cannot be trusted, even on small things Republicans have proven to be untrustworthy.

I brought this very same subject up with "talk" around a week ago. I mentioned to him/her/it that Bush and Cheney both promised the American people that the war in Iraq would be paid for by Iraqi oil revenues and wouldn't cost the American public a dime. Not shock..."talk" was unable to respond.

This promise was made by the Republican administration and both Boehner and McConnell were boot-licking congressmen at the time. Why are the Republican leaders not working to keep the promise made by a Republican administration? Why are the pseudo-deficit-hawks like "talk" not holding their leadership accountable for the promise that they made to us? Does a parrot like "talk" even realize how much it would help the deficit if the Iraq war was paid for? Now "talk" is either too stupid to remember or too dishonest to admit that the promise was ever made.

And now the brainwashed minions like "talk" expect us to warmly embrace a party that blatantly lied, cost the American public thousands of lives and sank us into severe debt...and can not even take a small amount of responsibility for the mess they have created.

I'll say it again - most of us would prefer to "talk to the hand"...'cause Lord knows we don't want top go anywhere near where you have your head shoved.

I don't believe that the GOP will support the removal of ANY loopholes that aid the wealthy.

is tax reform also closing loopholes for people like job1?

Truth Crap Conveyer

Talk,

The sequester WAS agreed to by the Dems. After all it became law and the last time I looked our current POTUS who proposed it and signed it into law is a Democrat.

When will you be graduating from high school?

Nice twist. They agreed to it 2 years ago and now that it is here it is evil. Don't give me the "here it is for you" crap in the form of Democrat approved cuts.

I graduated from high school while you were still in diapers. BTW when do you get out of pre-school? Oh, that's right. The scarequester supposedly is going to do that for you.

The Dems NEVER expected it to get to this point. That is why the scare tactics of the last few weeks.

Well, "talk"...since you pretend to be such a wise old deficit-hawk...Why can't you answer for the Iraq war debt and what your party is planning to do to keep it's promise to the American people?

So much for wisdom and age walking hand and hand.

("scarequester"??? Which propagandist on Fox/AM Radio programmed that one into your last functioning brain cell??)

Writing...this...slowly...just for you dear:

1. One million jobs have been cut -

(the CRS says 1.2 million) via the Sequester's indiscrimate cuts that only GOP wanted.

2. Plus 750,000 government jobs have been cut -

by Republican governors since Jan 2011 = teachers, police, etc.

3. GOP ran out the clock on the Sequester by refusing to compromise.

The point of the Budget Control Act was to force compromise, not just CUTS.

The Iraq war was voted on and approved by Congress, disgusting one .... including votes "FOR" by John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. Are you suggesting they ignored the cost of these wars ?

keep peddling that steaming pile of crap Bachhowse.

You keep proving that the Demotards are worthless and ineffective at governing and legislating. Gee under Bush, it was his fault and the GOP, under Oblamo, its Bush's fault and the GOP. So face it, the Demotards CANNOT LEAD OR LEGISLATE...just ask Reid

Way to point the little "blame" finger, "jim". What are your Republican leaders doing now to keep their promise to the American people? Do not forget (ha-ha...almost forgot who I was responding to!!)...uh...I know you will have forgotten (much more appropriate) that the Republican leadership made the same promise to Congress that it did to the American people, so your comment is even more irrelevant that usual.

What is your Republican leadership doing now to keep their promise and why should we trust them now when they can't be bothered to keep the promises they made 10 years ago when they last had control?

I know it's a "big boy" question that would require you to ponder mature, unheard of in your world ideas such as honesty, honor and integrity...but how 'bout you grow up and give a shot?

Obama is losing support according to polls , because his lack of leadership and his desire to use secuetration in order to inflict more damages than necessaries to the American population . Obama went down from 51% to 46 % this is a clear lost for Obama and his fear mongering tactics, putting politics over the country.

What is your Republican Democrat leadership doing now to keep their promise and why should we trust them now when they can't be bothered to keep the promises they made 10 4 years ago

Nowhere in my posts above, did i mention GWB.

Yore blindfold is on backwards.

Nowhere in my posts above, did i mention GWB.

Yore blindfold is on backwards.

I never said you did either..usually you do..its GOP, ROve, BUsh...not necessarily in that order...

My blindfold is on backwards and your head is up uranus..

OBLAMO was his NAMEO

and LIFE BE IRIE

American Girl-724855

Now THAT was lie so big it gives everyone a REASON to not trust Republicans anymore.

• How can we trust Democrats that send guns to Mexico and kill American citizens
• How can we trust Democrats if they lie about the attack in Benghazi
• How can we trust Democrats if they send 250 millions of dollars to the Brotherhood , tanks and F-16, provide 60 millions of dollars to Syria, when the ICE is releasing criminals illegals, teacher will receive ink slips, , tower controllers will be furloughed creating congestion in airports, an more because there is no money due sequestration.
• How can we trust Democrats if they can use drones to kill Americans in American soil.

Don't remember saying the R-o-v-e word afore either.

Yes i do talk about GOP because they want to run the United States - on behalf of corporations.

GOP will TELL you that if they hadn't gerrymandered votes, they wouldn't still have the House.

But wanna play tiddlewinks?

oskar,

Pres. Obama’s Job Approval (03/05/2013): 49% / 45% [+4]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

[use secuetration in order to inflict more damages than necessaries to the American population]

Wrong, he cannot … Our President and no other person, what-so-ever, can decide where the cuts are made, what programs get funded and which do not. That was part of the law created with the Budget Control Act of 2011.

The cuts are across the board cuts which is why everyone has said that “these are dumb cuts”.

As General Ray Odierno said Friday on “Morning Joe” and “CBS This Morning” under sequestration he is not allowed to move funds around in FY13.

Rather than answer a legitimate question asked of someone that pretends to care about the deficit, "oskar" chimes in with a silly little attempt at "tit-for-tat".

Is there at least one teabagger out there that isn't too brain dead to explain why they are incapable or unwilling to hold their party's leadership accountable for promises they made to the American public?

Isn't it also cute (in it's blatant stupidity) that "oskar" fails to mention the approval rating of the Republicans in Congress? Shhhh.....we must not upset the man-child....

Oh...and "oskar of the nazi talking points...(post 1.60)"...what of those force fed issues has one damn thing to do with the deficit? Are you not smart enough to stay on topic?

Does it bother you, "oskar" that you are hindering, not helping, the legitimacy of the Republican party?

President Obama has signed the order and these cuts, for better or worse, are now the law of the land, accept it and move on! They will not result in the elimination of any programs, and we must all admit that in most programs a certain amount of waste exists that "good managers" can cut without harming the program....with one exception .... unemployment.

The unemployment benefits being cut directly reduce payments to those of us hit the hardest by the recession. While I don't believe in benefits for life in the case of unemployment (some cut off must exist) the idea of tax breaks for companies hiring the long term unemployed has merit.

Let's give companies a real incentive to hire the long term unemployed (LTU), and those being hired an incentive to stay. No payroll taxes would be paid on an LTU hire for as long as they worked with the company that hired them, however this would end when the LTU hire left that company, and that LTU hire would not be eligible for unemployment after leaving that company until they had worked for a different firm for a prescribed period of time (hopefully this prevents job hopping in order to work this system).

Many of the LTU's lack the job skills to move into another job....many companies are reluctant to train them because of the costs and lack of assurance they will stay when trained...both issues must be addressed if we hope to solve this problem.

Yes i do talk about GOP because they want to run the United States - on behalf of corporations.

The DNC wants to run this country on pipe dreams and false promises.

We can play Kick the can instead

Backhowser, Don't worry, be happy Life is Irie

Is this game anything like Clue?

The Democrats will vote aganist the Republicans stop-gap bill. The Democrats haven't created a Budget in 8 years. At least the Republicans are putting forth an effort. O'Bama has NEVER given specifics, he and the rest of the Democrats will blame the Republicans. Ceasar Augustus -- Democrats have NEVER passed a opportunity to raise taxes and then practice unnecessary spending. our friend O'Bama is be holding to these corporations. If you work you should get down on your knees and thank the visionaries that created those corporations.

[The DNC wants to run this country on pipe dreams and false promises]

Gee, there's a pearl of wisdom if I ever saw one...

Almost time to clock out, my cowardly little putz...so, just how much "quality time" did you charge today...lots, I bet...

Gotta love screwing the boss, eh?

Of course the Democrats Progressives are going to block the "stop gap bill". Heck, the only thing Mr. "Pocket Veto" Reid brings to the Senate floor for voting is Progressive backed legislation. Wait a minute.....he DID bring to the floor Mr. Obama's BUDGET which NO ONE VOTED IN FAVOR OF and was defeated unanimously.

Then, there is "Peppermint Patty" who is going to submit the Progressive budget proposal which is asking for a TRILLION DOLLARS IN SPENDING and NO SPENDING CUTS.

The lame Progressive agenda is going to bankrupt America and give Mr. Obama his 2nd trophy: another U.S. dollar downgrade.

Tax reform is closing tax loopholes for people like Willard Romney.

And we all know Republicans will never do anything like that! After all, who would they graft from then?

Nope, Republican's goals are to make sure that the 1% or 2% have as much money as possible, so they can collect as much graft as possible!

While the middle-class languishes, the rich will get richer, contribute to Republicans and Republicans will get richer.

So the Democrats have lost on the sequester issue, but will now try to reverse the spending cuts as part of the Continuing Resolution process.

The Democrats will lose on that issue as well.

So Democrats in the Senate voted overwhelmingly for the sequester and Obama signed it, but now they are trying to 'blame Republicans' because it went into effect.

Obama got about $1.65 Trillion in tax increases ($1 Trillion for Obamacare and $650 on the 'rich'), but he still refuses to consider any spending cuts.

The sequester was ALWAYS about spending cuts, not tax increases, but Obama wants still more tax increases and no spending cuts.

True leaders were able to work with an opposing Congress to get things done (Reagan and Clinton). Obama is no leader in any sense of the word.

The federal government’s outlays this fiscal year will total $3.55 trillion,
according to the CBO’s latest estimate.
Do the arithmetic and you’ll see that $42 billion is 1.16 percent of what the federal government
would have spent this year if there had there been no sequester.

I guess i just never beleaved that there could be so many deaf dumb and blind @#@@#$ rightwwinged racist idiots in this country that have their heads so far up their ass that they can`t or should i say refuse to see what Ray Charles could have seen and continue to talk out of their ass with the same old rightwing BS lies and vote against their own best intrest everytime. now thats a real #@#@# idiot for ya HUH! And you know the best part if there was one is that these same @#@#@ idiots that are all for the sequester are going to feel the pain as well as the rest of us and their going to see just how much they depend on goverment and how shrinking it down small enough to drown it in a bathtub is an idea that will favor the rich and no one else. But if you only have a half of a brain cell and you refuse to take your head out of your ass or think for yourseff then this is what you get a party of deaf dumb and blind racist #@#@# idiots who hate everybody that don`t agree with them and think compromise is a dirty word and everyone on the left is bad and sucking off the goverment. And Paul Ryan is coming back with his budget again and is just having a ball with all this.

Jody, you need to pull your head out of Obama's sphincter. Seeking Insanity is blaming the Republican Congress for not moving ahead, but it is the Democrats that are trying to block the bill. The opposite side can ALWAYS say tthe bill is a piece of junk, as they always do. And your response that Obama only signed the bill is because Congress passed it is ludicrous. The only reason it was legislated is because Obama proposed it and negotiated with Congress (in bad faith, by the way - but that is no surprise coming from his administration) to reduce spending.

Old Dennis just loves to post how many GOPers voted for the sequestration bill.

What he ALWAYS fails to point out is that the bill was passed by a MAJORITY of EACH party!

And Backhouse wants to cry about it, citing some general about how he can't move money around under the bill.

Well, the GOP is proposing to let the military have some flexibility on that, and the article is about the Democrats saying NO!

The only thing the two parties in Washington are good at is blaming each other. Neither has the leadership skills to accomplish anything worthwhile.

Wow, people really think the sequester was actual CUTS in spending??? It was a slow in the growth. The deal was that the Dems would get their new taxes if cuts followed. They lied. Now they're blatantly saying to the public that they're just going to say "NO" to a new bill rather than work across the aisle or even just uphold their end of the bargain. I say the Republicans dig in further until the Dems come up with some REAL cuts (+600B taxes -85B sequester is NOT a cut).

EEngineer

Tax reform is closing tax loopholes for people like Willard Romney.

And we all know Republicans will never do anything like that! After all, who would they graft from then?

Nope, Republican's goals are to make sure that the 1% or 2% have as much money as possible, so they can collect as much graft as possible!

Do you have any idea what a bailout really is or which party was writing & passing the bills? In one year, Reid and Pelosi agreed to give the 1% enough $$ to fund Afghanistan and Iraq wars for 8 years.

Bailout = giving 1%ers hundreds of millions because they were broke
Tax increases = taking $ from the 1%ers because they're rich
How does that even go through your head without triggering a red flag? Besides, corporations don't pay taxes. We pay that when the increase in operating expense trickles down in job cuts or price hikes. Right now that 35% corporate tax is included in the price of everything you purchase.

Talk,

Taxes have been raised to the tune of $650 billion and the bi-partisan sequester that Obama proposed and signed into law is here. The tax issue is over and Obama got his "tax the millionaires and billionaires" er...I meand $400thousandaires tax increase. This is what the people voted for.

Time for the real cuts to begin. Sorry, but this is the choice the voters made. I know you want to go with the old "I did not really mean it when I signed the sequester into law" approach. But that is childish. Adults keep their committments and now it is time to pay the piper.

Obama's policies are flat out crushing the middle class.

Actually is the actions of republicans that are crushing the middle class. The cuts they are forcing the government to make (in a recessive economy) are precisely what has drawn out the recovery. If not for the cuts this economy would be out of the recession by now. This ENTIRE fiscal debacle was manufactured by republicans who decided (after they lost) to focus on deficits at the worst possible time. Austerity during a recession is BAD.

Lib50,

Let's be clear: these are not real cuts. They are cuts to the rate of increased spending. So quite honestly, your assessment is inaccuratate. There has been no meaningful economic growth in the 5 years that Obama has been in office. This is his economy-he owns it.

Deep down those in the middle class know he is not a champion for them. If he was, then he would not have taken the 2% payroll tax break from them. Somehow people forget that taking from "the rich" does not help the middle class. I have yet to hear how increasing taxes on the rich helps the middle class....because it doesn't. It makes jealous people feel good; but it will not improve their economic standing. Only economic growth can do that and taking money from any of us-and giving it to the government never works. They simply piss it away with exhibit A being the $1 trillion dollar deficits per year during each of Obama's year in office.

History will look back on that number and say: "Really? $1 trillion each year? Really? What kind of cool adi was the US drinking during that period!" LOLOLOLOL....but it is true!

So now cuts aren't really cuts.

Do I need to revisit the payroll tax cut holiday? It was a temporary way to get more money in regular folks' pockets and stimulate the economy since republicans would not do anything to help the country out of the recession. Never meant to be permanent. You are advocating the same old trickle down/supply side economics that have FAILED. Those policies have caused a huge wealth/income gap for this country that is unsustainable. Your hate of all things government is misplaced and your blame for the deficit on Obama is wrong. Yes, it did go up, but considering the tax cuts made a decade ago, along with some wars and Medicare Advantage etc, not to mention ongoing obligations can't be ignored. Obama has cut the deficit every year even during a recession and the austerity forced on the country by republicans is BAD. So lol your way into a macro econ class and learn something. The US government is not a household budget.

We've spent about as much on the two wars, over 12 years, as Obama's first deficit, 1.4 TRILLION.

Don't let math get in the way!

Their only interest is attempting to twist their twits into believing that a "win" for republicans exists somewhere on this planet now... And they don't care who rolls off a cliff to assist in creating their illusion...

If the U.S. government continues spending $1.3 - $1.4 trillion MORE each year than it takes in, then absolutely NO ONE wins ... not Republicans, not Democrats, and certainly not our future generations !

Too bad for libs, the CBO now estimates 2013 tax revenues will be the highest ever ! Under Obama, however, the U.S. will still have a massive deficit ! Our country has a serious SPENDING problem that extremist liberals pretend does not exist !!

Obama's idea of a balanced approach is reducing future planned spending increases 10 years from now, and raising taxes today. Obama hasn't cut a dime in spending, and we will have to wait until 2022 to see if any of his spending cut rhetoric ever comes true, but taxes sure have gone up. The treasury is projecting tax revenue will top 2.7 trillion this year, the new all time record. Despite the fact the country is mired in the worst recovery in US history, Obama is setting both records for tax revenue and deficit spending. Obama isn't trying to cut the deficit in half like he promised, he is trying to tax the deficit in half. Hopefully Obama can save the Cowboy Poetry Festival in Nevada.

People that blame Obama for today's spending are ignorant. Congress controls all spending. All the President can do is make suggestions in the form of a budget proposal. There have already been more than $2 trillion in cuts signed into law by Obama in his first term. When will the Republicans be satisfied? Bush and Reagan were the all time great spenders of new growth. Where was the call for austerity then? Hypocrites...

ray -- good point. democrats have held majorities in one or both houses of Congress since world war II ended so that would suggest they must be responsible for most of our spending. is that correct?

Obama's idea of a balanced approach is reducing future planned spending increases 10 years from now, and raising taxes today. Obama hasn't cut a dime in spending, and we will have to wait until 2022 to see if any of his spending cut rhetoric ever comes true, but taxes sure have gone up.

How easily you forget the 1.4 trillion in cuts that Obama signed into law in 2011 after the GOP held America's credit rating hostage...

Obama doesn't approve spending, that is done through appropriations bills and budgets passed in CONGRESS. Many of today's bills that need to be paid were yesterday's legislation...

Ray in Jax says "People that blame Obama for today's spending are ignorant. Congress controls all spending. All the President can do is make suggestions in the form of a budget proposal. There have already been more than $2 trillion in cuts signed into law by Obama in his first term."

Wasn't all the spending Bush's fault when he was president? Even when the two biggest budgets Bush signed into law came from a Democrat controlled House and Senate? As to the 2 trillion in cuts, they are over 10 years, and they are back end loaded. So we will all need to wait until 2022 to see if they ever materialize. You are using the term ignorant rather loosely.

Democrats have controlled the House for 46 of the past 60 years, and 40 of the past 60 in the Senate. It has been over 40 years since a Democrat controlled congress submitted a balanced budget, and yet liberals consider them the party of fiscal responsibility.

billybob..

ray -- good point. democrats have held majorities in one or both houses of Congress since world war II ended so that would suggest they must be responsible for most of our spending. is that correct?

The Republicans were in charge of the House from 1995 through 2005.... The last two years of Bush's term he vetoed a majority of the legislation passed by the house. The Dems only had control for 2 years since that 10 year stint by the GOP. As I stated, many of today's bills that need paying were created and signed into law years ago...

Says the man with an Ahmadinejad photo shopped into his avatar...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/the-2011-spending-cuts-in-one-graph/2011/04/12/AFGeglRD_blog.html

Poor "chip" most likely doesn't remember that, in his first year, our refreshingly honest President included the Bush war supplemental, which was created to keep the war off the books and allow for the likes of "chip" to smile while they take it without lube, into the deficit.

So, "chip"...Are you just too dumb to remember that, or are you being purposefully deceitful in defending your party of the antichrist?

Either way, keep smilin' "chip"...

Good point Shocked, many on the right refuse to discuss the war spending and how Obama took those expenditures and placed them on the books under his term. The only new spending Obama has had that I can think of is the stimulus, which in the end may have had more benefits than costs, and Obama care, which again, may save us more than it costs, according to CBO figures.

We'll be paying for the results of the Iraqi war for years to come.... Those that accuse Obama of reckless spending really need to take time to review what went where and when...

Too bad for libs, the CBO now estimates 2013 tax revenues will be the highest ever ! Under Obama, however, the U.S. will still have a massive deficit ! Our country has a serious SPENDING problem that extremist liberals pretend does not exist !!

Well, fact is, Bush ran on smaller government, then he spent more than any other president in 200 years ever did! In the meantime, his crazy plan to make every illegal Hispanic a homeowner trashed the economy, leaving the Bush Recession (there is a reason they call it that!) for his successor to take care of.

And now, well now it is all Obama's fault! Do you really think the American people will believe that?

Yep and today there was a political commercial (i.e. propaganda from some right wing organization) that criticized the administration for opposing only a 3% -- in the face of a 16 trillion debt -- cut in government spending. Jeeezzz so tired of the lies and liars from the right.

But when packaged so well and on the face reasonable, how can you expect Americans who don't keep up to know the truth?

You won`t have to their going to see and fell it first hand and if that don`t open their eyes to what the real truth is than we`ll have to start sending their kids and family to war instead of the poor and than they`ll stop starting wars for profit around the world. funny how people have a different view about things when it hits close to home don`t they.

Even you fill the Congress with Dems, they will not do anything.... no one to blame?

Look back at Barry's first TWO YEARS in office..... he did his best work there.... NOT

He DID NOT pass immigration

He DID NOT pass ObamaCare

He DID NOT pass gun control

Unless the Dems have a scapegoat in place... they DO NOTHING.........

Right, the problem with your comment would be that first they'd have to win 15+ house seats and 7 Senate seats... come back to reality.

Yeah, like the 1st 2? I sure the hell hope not!

We have a president trying to make the sequester cuts as painful as possible solely for the purpose of blame. Nothing like putting the American people through unnecessary pain for the attempt at political gain. This is not how a president is supposed to act, and it is a tactic that will fail and a tactic that will help the Republican party. It has taken over four years, but the tide is finally turning on the blame game. Obama running around the country screaming the sky is falling over the sequester is just the latest revelation for the American people that his entire presidency revolves around his ability to blame someone else. Hopefully he keeps it up, as already people are tuning out.

Rick,

Our President and no other person, what-so-ever, can decide where the cuts are made, what programs get funded and which do not. That was part of the law created with the Budget Control Act of 2011.

The cuts are across the board cuts which is why everyone has said that "these are dumb cuts".

As General Ray Odierno said Friday on "Morning Joe" and "CBS This Morning" under sequestration he is not allowed to move funds around in FY13 and beyond.

amy -- so how has this country survived for centuries with this premise of checks and balances? nearly every president has worked with members of the opposition at some time. is your suggestion that only barry is incapable?

Rick was seen saying...

We have a president trying to make the sequester cuts as painful as possible solely for the purpose of blame.

I guess you have no idea of what across the board cuts mean do you? The administration has no discretion on these cuts. The military has stopped training soldiers, pilots are losing flight practice time, lines at airports are growing longer, soon USDA inspectors will be furloughed and the price of meat will rise again, and more cuts are on the way. Today we learn that nearly 2 billion will be cut from financial aid for college students. So much for investing in our future. It has nothing to do with scare tactics, it's today's reality...

just today the FAA announced the closing of 3 ATC terminals in Florida Airports.... The GOP congressmen that got in front of cameras and claimed the cuts would be small and hard to see are fools...

Every department in the federal government had more of a budget increase then sequestration cut. So they will all still be spending more this year then last even with sequestration. In fact every budget will continue to grow throughout the lifespan of the sequester. So are these really cuts? Of course not. Departments all have the flexibility to determine where to reduce spending, and Obama wants them to be noticed plain and simple. You can't run around the country screaming the sky is falling like Obama did, and then not try and make it happen solely for political gain. People are catching on.

Rick,

Do you have anything to support your claim that all departments received increases in the Continuing Resolution (Budget)?

Show us where, as a result of the Budget Control Act of 2011, any government department or agency received a budget increase between Aug. 2011 to now.

The only increase in spending was in emergency spending bills like the Hurricane Sandy relief.

We have a president trying to make the sequester cuts as painful as possible solely for the purpose of blame.

I guess you never really read the legislation, did you? What part of "across the board" didn't you (or the Republican party for that matter) didn't you understand? The deal was there, Republicans could have made a deal, they refused! On their heads be it!

And all the polls seem to show it will be on Republican heads. But that's OK! Ignore it - just like you ignored the polls that showed Romney would lose!

2014 will soon be here!

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.
It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills. ...
I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.” — Then-Sen. Barack Obama, floor speech in the Senate, March 16, 2006

That is if we still have anyone who still has a house and a job I mean hell poor Mitt is still unemployed go figure.

Amy is a paid democratic propagandist like Fisty Douchebag, Pigotry, Seeking Sanity, Bev, Job1, and several others that I can't think of at the moment. Several of them are the same person and they all work in the same dingy crack house office in Chicago somewhere, paid from the same pot of mis-appropriated government funds. Rarely do they add anything of value to the discussion. Usually they use the boards for office banter and personal communications to other like minded leftist friends and minions. They play the "mind of reason" card or the "mature intellectual debater" card when they think it's beneficial, and then resort to the typical left-leaner name calling and lying when all else fails. Go through the thread and read their crap and judge for yourself. It's fun for awhile, then it just gets stale.

Engineer,

If you think the HOuse is changing hands in 2014, then you are sadly mistaken. There are too many states controlled by Repub Governnors who won their elections (thankfully). As a result, the districts have been established such that most House repubs are safe. Obama knows this which is why he is supposedly beginning to reach out to Repubs.

Whatever. He has virtually zero credibility on anything than involves fiscal or economic reality. His whole sequester scare the crap of America tactic made him look completely foolish. What a community organizer. Boehner and OConnell took him to the woodshed on that one.

His lame duck session has already begun.

It's one of Johnny's talking points. Boehner's been kicking the can down the road all those 22 years he's been in the House. He voted against everything Bill Clinton did to reduce the deficit and debt, and voted for everything Bush 43 wanted that increased the deficit and the debt.

Boehner has finally smartened up to the fact that Obama is solely about blame. So rather then give him the chance, he is giving Democrats the ability to hang themselves. The first opportunity will come in April when budgets are due. So granting a continuing resolution through September is a great move, and that is the reason Democrats will oppose it. But then who will Obama blame?

Poor "rick"...We all know that if this lame bill would have been suggested by the Democrats, "rick" would have been the first to scream about that can being kicked down the road and would have placed all blame on the President.

Being a thoughtless propagandist makes you horribly predictable and extremely irrelevant. Should we remind him of some of the ridiculous talking points he was barfing in October - before his candidate was creamed?

TO: Rick-3416939 who wrote:

"Boehner has finally smartened up to the fact that Obama is solely about blame..."

No, Boehner and the President actually get along well, which pisses Republicans off and gives Teabaggers reason not to trust Boehner. Then Boehner has Cantor backstabbing him all the time.

John Boehner cannot get anything through the House, because he cannot reason with the Teabaggers.

John Boehner has gotten rid of as many Teabaggers as he could, and others he had tossed from committee.

So, because the Republican caucus is out of control, Republicans want to blame the Democrats.

I don't think so.

Jody - can't we just run over Boehner????

It's a thought but then we'd have to deal with the clean up on aisle 5. Perhaps President Obama can acquire the Jedi Mind Meld skills he mentioned last Friday.

One other thing that was mentioned was the GOP plan allows the Defense Dept leeway in making the sequester cuts but doesn't give that same ability to all the other departments. Talk about a hatchet job, only defense matters to the GOPers.

Violence huh? Sad.

Oh chipper... Cantor already ran over the drunk...

$108 Million? Big deal....we just gave twice that to Egypt.

Boehner will try evertyhing under the sun to get back the Defense cuts that are now in effect.

But he could care less about cuts to WIC, education, science research, FDA, FAA, TSA, etc.

And the way to do this, as you say Jody, is to take another $108million out of the budget and give it back to the Dept of D.

jwilson, so you're fine with cutting an additional $108 million from every other government department and giving it to Defense to spend instead? That's the equivalent of robbing Peter to pay Paul. Are you fine with Defense having leeway in the amounts and how the cuts are distributed but that same leeway is denied to all other departments?

Correction: I just heard that the number is not $108 million but is actually $10 Billion in additional cuts to the General Fund which are added to the Defense budget.

TO: SeekingSanity who wrote:

"Jody - can't we just run over Boehner????"

Politically, yes. But then who does that leave us with? Eric Cantor, the Head Teabagger who is next in line to be Speaker and who keeps ratting Boehner out to the Teabaggers.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cantor is hoping to get rid of Boehner, because that makes Cantor the Speaker of the House that much sooner.

How Daniel, by not spending borrowed money? How about you go take a loan out in your own name?.

How about they learn about economics before they try to screw the US economy? And don't be another economically challenged republican who thinks the US GDP and economy is like a household budget. Hint: it's called MACRO economics.

Deerhunterbow1, assume you're suffering short-term memory loss? How about we never should have borrowed all that money during the Bush 43 years, and don't forget the Reagan and Bush 41 ones as well? Fact: Reagan, Bush and Bush added 333% of borrowed money to the debt; as opposed to 81% added by democratic presidents. Clinton balanced the budget, left three years of budget surpluses; the debt would have been paid off by 2015....along came Bush 43 who blew up the surplus, added trillions more to the debt and collapsed the economy. Reagan, Bush and Bush increased government spending by 34.9%; Clinton by 7.1%; and Obama by 1.4% in his first term.

Believing what you choose, deerhunter, is one thing but ignoring the reality and the fact is irresponsible.

lib50,

Macro, micro, the GOPTP think you are talking about Italian pasta.

They love their bad analogy of a household budget when talking about trillions of dollars.

Perhaps, for now, that is merely a bargaining chip held back. Since the sequester cuts hit the Defense Deparment unfairly, they have a bigger need to adjust amnd maintain flexibility ! Remember, the Defense Dept gets HALF the cuts .... even though they are presently a much smaller percentage of the "budget" outlay .... Lord knows, we have no real budgets under Obama !

Lord knows that conservatives do not know what a budget is.

J. Willard Marriott

Go buy your own insurance. Nobody owes you anything. That all you Libturds want is ,gime ,gime gime., America can't aford all you free loaders.

Ignorant republitakers are always pointing and shrieking like sock-monkeys at others... Even when many of them can't even spell when they use slang. Quite the handsome example of the wild 'Merkin douche-nozzle.

Ignorant dummycraps are always playing the blame game when things don't go their way .... then they resort to middle school talk with as many sexual references as they can find ! Quite the example of pre-pubescent immaturity !!

TO: Deerhunterbow1 who wrote:

"... Nobody owes you anything. That all you Libturds want is ,gime ,gime gime., America can't aford all you free loaders."

And yet WE afforded many Republicans a chance in life, without so much as a "Thank you".

I guess Mitt Robme and Paul Ryan are no longer considered "freeloaders" since they took our American Taxpayer Dollars and ran.

How does the republican 'plan' fix things? More cuts where they want them, more money to defense (where we already spend more than most of the world combined). And kicking the can down the road. Fix the @!$%#ing problem NOW. This entire mess was MANUFACTURED by republicans and they need to get off their asses and fix the problems THEY caused. Jesus, how much more crap can this country take? And I wish to God the entire congress would go back to school and learn macro economics before they trash the economy again.

By the way, that 'supermajority' dems supposedly had is not true: it lasted all of 24 days.

http://538refugees.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/the-democratic-super-majority-myth/

http://factleft.com/2012/01/31/the-myth-of-democratic-super-majority/

Study the GOP plan, Sane, as well as the truth about the budgets and everything else, then come back and discuss it because what you wrote in nonsense.

Jody, Jody, Jody ... the truth about BUDGETS ? Under Obama, there have been no budgets as required by LAW ! And before you start that diingenuous bull$hyte about obama "SUBMITTING BUDGET PROPOSALS" .... please give me a detail of ALL who supporterd his proposals by their vote ..... Democrat, Republican, Independent, Whig, the Church of "What's happening now" ..............

jim, jim, jim, perhaps if the GOP Senators didn't filibuster everything, there would have been. President Obama has submitted a budget to Congress every year of his presidency. Fact: it is Congress that has the responsibility to pass budgets, not the President. Fact, presidents submit suggested budgets, Congress then does what they please. The GOP has blocked every serious democratic budget so spare me the "required by Law" faux outrage. For the past two years it is the GOP House which has blocked budgets and instead preferred the "continuing resolutions" to create additional manufactured crises every few months.

Jody, Congratulations ! You jumped right into the Obama apology tour.

FACT: The President of the United States takes an oath to UPHOLD the laws of this country !

FACT: The laws of this country REQUIRE an annual budget !

FACT : Obama has submitted half-assed proposals, SO BAD that he has never received the first vote of support ... even from a DEMOCRAT !!!!

FACT : There have been absolutely NO "serious" democratic budgets at all !

FACT : The House has passed several budgets, as required by law, and sent them on to the Senate where Harr Reid has planted his gluteus maximus upon them !

Are your pants on fire Jody ? You need a "serious" egg scraper after that abomination of yours at #9.4 !!

Where's that detail of Congressional support for Obama's budget proposals ? We're waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!

TO: Sane-2794278 who wrote:

"To funny, the Dems plan to obstruct a measure to fund the government that lost funding due to a sequester that they proposed but now oppose..."

The Department Of Defense has plenty enough money, and they've told the freaks that many times, it's just that Republicans don't listen to anybody.

Better get the facts on what's in the bill, WB52. The GOP's grand plan cuts an additional $108 million from the general fund and gives it to the Defense Department. In addition, the GOP's grand plan allows Defense leeway in determining where the cuts will be and how much but denies the same leeway to all other departments. The GOP's plan is a piece of junk.

Geez Jody ! All of $108 million ??? Why that would be about 20 % of what Obama threw away on Solyndra ! How does it compare to the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ U.S. pledge just made by John Kerry to go to Egypt ... who is no longer our ally, except for when accepting our foolish donations of aircraft and money ???????????????

Correction to the $108 million number: The number I heard earlier was only a partial one, it is actually $10 Billion in additional cuts to the General Fund which are added to the Defense budget.

jim#'s, I would have a more interesting conversation if I were talking to an inanimate object. I posted the correction.

Maybe you can now go back and CORRECT post #9.4 where you LIED excessively .... trying ever so deceptively to absolve Obama of his ongoing budget failures and violation of his oath of office !

Pulling numbers out your a$$ once again ! "the number I heard ...." LOL !

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure.
It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills. ...
I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.” — Then-Sen. Barack Obama, floor speech in the Senate, March 16, 2006

Article 8 Section 1 United States Constitution.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfareof the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

So is paying for condoms promoting the "General Welfare" or just the specific welfare of sex-crazed individuals having unprotected sex on the government dime ?

How about food stamps ? General welfare or specific welfare of the indiidual receiving them ??

Roads, bridges, schools, military, etc = general welfare

The term welfare as written in Section 8 pertained to "health, happiness or prosperity: well being". Today's welfare was not the way it was meant in the Constitution as originally written.

JWM

The term 'general Welfare' doesn't refer to Food Stamps,Medicaid,HUD Housing or free cell phones.

It means whatever the Congress decides it means unless it gets struck down by the SCOTUS.

J---that is the problem with our government today. They think they can take a perfectly written set of laws and interpret them anyway they wish to. That is the reason we need all of these over paid idiots called lawyers--to see who can out lie the other one and twist the laws to fit whatever they would like it to be.

First of all the Veterans are part of the defense spending. Second of all the feds should not be so involved in the everyday lives of citizens because it gives a bunch of lying backstabbing politicians too much control over the stupid voters who want a free handout. Yes indeed the feds are also responsible for roads and bridges and infrastructure, which is all included in Interstate Commerce. The sequester and the GOP and whatever is not cutting jobs as much as out of control spending and trying to tax the country back into financial stability. When will you people understand the free ride is over. We can't continue to support a country and it's citizens who don't want to work for what they get. It is real easy for a bunch of smooth talking politicians to promise people they can sit home on their kiesters and they will be taken care of the with OTHER PEOPLE'S EARNINGS. The only way this country will ever recover is if people get off the government teat and get back their pride and get back out work for what they get----instead of being a bunch of bleeding heart liberal dem backers just so they won't have to.

Progessive,
Let me ask you a question, you seem to rant for the elderly that I am assuming are on Social Security. Did you know that Social Security was not created as a sole means of income for people who are retired. It was created as a supplement. That being said, I do agree that the spending needs to be addressed.

The reason that no Politician wants to address this issue is it is suicide. Everything and everyone would have to take some sort of a hit to something they hold near and dear to their heart. If the Politicians ignore it or kick the can down the road, they haven't upset anyone and will probably get reelected.

You can point your finger at the Republicans, but don't forget the Democrats are just as bad...

Also don't forget the dems were the first to use SS in the general fund to help pay for their out of control spending. No SS was not meant to be a total retirement package but if it had been left alone we would not have to worry about it going broke. Also if the dems, who don't care to control illegal immigrants, would quit giving away our retirement dollars to those who really don't qualify for them it would last a little longer also.

The good thing about not passing a budget means the government is funded by continuing resolutions. In this form of funding, ZERO increases in spending are allowed by law.

J.Willard, that also means that no cuts occur in those continuing resolutions; the budget remains as it was when a budge was last passed.

And exactly WHEN was a budget last passed .... as REQUIRED BY LAW ?

There is no law that requires a budget to be passed.

Look it up libbie !! Google is your friend !!!

The CR IS the budget...

Boehner wanted to close the "loopholes" as part of the "fiscal cliff deal". Obama said NO ! He simply wanted higher tax rates and was unwilling to COMPROMISE !

Now we can have both.

So losing 750,000 jobs in the defense industry is progress for the "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs" Republican party?

"So losing 750,000 jobs in the defense industry is progress for the "Jobs! Jobs! Jobs" Republican party?"

No wood, the CBO projects the economy will grow by 750k LESS jobs overall.

The GOP in the House will pass another symbolic bill that has no chance of passing in the Senate and then crow that they are doing all they can to end the stalemate. Are there any grownups left in Congress???

The bill the House wants to pass implements spending cuts in domestic programs. Restores funding to defense and actually adds $2B more than Obama wanted. Cut spending???? Ha!!!!

Show me where it adds 2B more than what obama wanted. The House bill keeps most if not all of the sequestration cuts in place, it just allows the departments more leeway in what to cut. So if it retains almost all of the 44 billion in cuts & you say it added 2B more than what obama wanted, then obama must be for the sequestration cuts then.

And as far as the bill be symbolic, at least the House has passed a bidget every year. What have Senate democraps done. NOTHING! Takes both Houses of Congress to create/pass a budget. To call one of the Houses budgets symbolic, when the other half does nothing; tells me you have no idea how government works!

The federal government’s outlays this fiscal year will total $3.55 trillion,
according to the CBO’s latest estimate.
Do the arithmetic and you’ll see that $42 billion is 1.16 percent of what the federal government
would have spent this year if there had there been no sequester.

At least whores do some work!!

Your confusing the words Slut (Free or for bribes) and

Whore, a working girl..

The Boner and the GOP wanted to attack "tax expenditures" in the tax loopholes during the campaign. These are spending items like tax breaks to energy and big oil, and things like the tax breaks for luxury yachts and jets. All take away from revenue, but the GOP now considers these "taxes" and will protect them at any cost to their party. Romney and Co said they could reduce the deficit by ending loopholes and targeting certain deductions. Why is it that the GOP is now running as fast as they can away from those policies??

Obama and the Democrats said NO to cutting those 'tax expenditure' loopholes. They DEMANDED TAX RATE INCREASES! They got their Tax Rate increases. NOW IS THE TIME FOR CUTS!

slodon, they did NOT get tax increases. You may have forgotten, that those bush tax cuts were set to expire two times over. They expired.

You can complain about Republicians & tax loopholes all you want; I can say the same thing about democrats & entitlements. They won't cut/reduce any of that!

You complain about what Romney did with his money so let's

enact a fair flat tax that is across the board for everyone.

1 rate for all, no deductions period!

Why flat tax is a bad idea, from that paragon of progressive. bleeding-heart, left-wing politics, the WSJ (sarcasm intended): http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204358004577032311610518008.html

Simple is often a euphemism for stupid.

How stunning: politicians lie?

Look....I hate to break this to you, but Obama won because Romney was worse.

It doesn't take a paragon of wisdom or virtue to win against a puppet of oligarchy- it takes only the narrowest shred of virtue and the merest hint of good intentions.

In an era where every candidate with the backing to stand any chance of victory is pre-selected from a bucket of compliant patsies, we vote for the lesser evil.

This is the system the right created over some four decades by systematically destroying the middle class with the automation and offshoring of jobs.

Enjoy your brave new world.

FeO2,

There were a few more factors that the perception that the right side of the aisle made this happen.

The biggest influence was that we the people would not spend a dime more than what Walmart was offering a product for and we did not care where it was manufactured. Could we have have afforded the dime , absolutely.

We the consumer created this by not shopping on Main street. On the other side of the coin Unions so out-priced themselves against any other countries manufacturing that it would have been ludicrous to imagine we could retain and production here, except Movies.

Because we wanted out 401K's to prosper we looked the other way as Banks wrote and simpletons accepted ridiculous types of loans that HAD to fail.

The bottom line is that WE the Great Greedy American consumer fueled Wall Street and Government to support a fantasy that was not possible to sustain and now once again we want to blame someone or something other than ourselves for the mess we find ourselves in.

We were so arrogant as to see ourselves in commercials DOCUMENTING the level of personal debt so many of us were incurring, sure that the next big scheme would get us out from under. "I'm in Debt up to my eyeballs" I believe was the mans statement as he rode his riding mower to mow his lawn while he still owned it before foreclosure.

Now the only way out is not BIGGER (Nanny) Government but rather something a rather prominent Democrat once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your country" and that included holding OURSELVES accountable for what we allowed to happen in our Greed.

Spending more will not get us out, being honest for the first time in a long time about what we can afford to do for fortunates and the un-fortunates at the same time is what has to be done. Many will not be happy with the answers but if most sign on and are willing to trudge the road to happy prosperity through struggle and extra effort, not more of the same, we will make it out.

That will take a team NOT an Arrogant Winning Side of ourselves.