Obama names budget, environment, energy cabinet picks

President Barack Obama nominated three more members of his second-term cabinet Monday, formally unveiling his choices to head the Office of Management and Budget, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the Energy Department.

Obama tapped Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the head of WalMart’s philanthrophic arm, for the top budget job.

President Barack Obama announces the nomination of Sylvia Mathews Burwell as the Director of the Office of Management and Budget. Obama also introduced Gina McCarthy as nominee to head the EPA and Ernest Moniz to take over the Energy Department.

The choice of Burwell, 47, may help to assuage critics who say that Obama’s cabinet lacks enough women and candidates with private sector experience. She's also no stranger to Washington; before her post at the WalMart Foundation, Burwell served as deputy budget director and deputy White House chief of staff under President Bill Clinton.

Noting the effects of the just-implemented sequestration budget reductions, Obama said that Burwell will be charged with working “to blunt the impact of these cuts on businesses and middle class families.”

Obama also nominated Gina McCarthy – currently the head of the EPA's air and radiation office -- to lead the agency at the center of debates over global climate change and the environment. If confirmed, McCarthy would replace outgoing administrator  Lisa Jackson, who became a lightning rod for conservative opponents of federal regulation intended to control the effects of climate change.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology physicist Ernest Moniz is the president’s choice to serve at the helm of the Energy Department in the place of outgoing head Steven Chu.

Moniz, recognizable for his wavy professorial hairdo as well as his academic credentials, also served in the Clinton administration as an undersecretary of energy and as associate director of the White House office of science and technology policy.

Calling his choice a “brilliant scientist,” Obama said Moniz “knows that we can produce more energy and grow our economy while still taking care of our air, our water, and our climate.”

Later today, Obama will hold his first cabinet meeting of his new term. 

 

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How long will their confirmation be delayed while BFF's McNasty & Lindy play Benghazi-Gate?

Just say NO to the Keystone pipeline!!!

  • 33 votes
#1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 10:44 AM EST

Good choices. Now for the filibuster to ties up these appointments for months. Harry Reid, perhaps you should have included appointments as part of your filibuster deal with Mitch.

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#1.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 10:57 AM EST

Obama nominates a woman who worked at WalMart noting the cost of slave labor conditions on the balance sheets.

Very well done, Mr. President!

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#1.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:04 AM EST

I read where the administration recently approved the Keystone pipeline?

What's needed in these approvals is a clause requiring a certain percentage of what we produce and refine in this country to stay here and be sold to the American market to reduce the cost of gasoline at the pump. Right now, too much higher priced offshore crude is being purchased by American refineries - due to our lacking infrastructure, which currently is causing higher prices at the pump - amongst other things such as speculation.

  • 20 votes
#1.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:05 AM EST

How long will their confirmation be delayed while BFF's McNasty & Lindy play Benghazi-Gate?

Just say NO to the Keystone pipeline!!!


Wow, Feisty I was thinking that same exact thing. Republicans sure do love a lot of Drama. Now we gotta give the mic to those to drama queens; McNasty and his boyfriend Lindsy Graham

Bob Woodward Claims Amtrak Chief Trying to Kill Him

http://dailycurrant.com/2013/02/28/bob-woodward-claims-amtrack-chief-kill/

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What will the two drama queens McCain & Graham

do to top Woodard?

  • 21 votes
#1.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:06 AM EST

Bev in Chicago (bang-bang!) Obama is losing the left majority "journalists" - watch Morning Joe today? They were all denigrating Obama for his phony sequester claims the three weeks leading up to the kick-in date.

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#1.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:16 AM EST

Let the filibustering begin!!!

Never say "confirmation"........

(sarcasm)

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#1.6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:18 AM EST

Bev, is the Daily Currant, satirical ....?

If not, Woodward needs serious medication for his paranoia.

  • 14 votes
#1.7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:22 AM EST

JustSlapMe

I read where the administration recently approved the Keystone pipeline?

JustSlapMe

LINK PLEASE

FYI: Drums; a-Rat-a tat- tat; crescendo: Mourning Joe is not a liberal. A mind is at terrible thing to waste. Your cheesy chip and dip attack is no good.

  • 14 votes
#1.8 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:22 AM EST

Bev, JustSlapMe - Tom Brokaw commented on Woodward yesterday. Said journalists for years have been cautioned about what they say in print and that what Woodward was told by the White House was NO threat. Said he respects Woodward but the whole thing was silly and people should move on.

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#1.9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:42 AM EST

And the nominations start to pour in from the EAST WING of the White House.

I was wondering what those 15 Mrs. Obama's staff members were doing.

SeekingSanity....."Said he respects Woodward but the whole thing was silly and people should move on."

Yep, sounds like Mrs. Clinton when she cried during a Congressional inquiry and saying forget about Benghazi, the "bump" in the road for Mr. Obama, and just move on.

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:50 AM EST

I guess there just aren't any African Americans looking for work in the Obama administration these days. Serves black people right for not turning out in large numbers to vote for him....or not having $500K to get access.

  • 14 votes
#1.11 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:59 AM EST

I want to know what role they played in Benghazi.

  • 9 votes
#1.12 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:03 PM EST

Gina McCarthy? Guess I can plan on not being able to afford heat for my family and gas to go to work here soon. The EPA is nothing more than a terrorist organization any more.

I guess Burwell can use her slave labor experience to find more jobs for the 11+ million soon to be legal residents.

  • 12 votes
#1.13 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:50 PM EST

I read where the administration recently approved the Keystone pipeline

I think you're referring to an Impact Analysis released last Friday, Alex. It's part of the approval process, but just a small part. A final decision probably won't be made until August.

Gina McCarthy? Guess I can plan on not being able to afford heat for my family and gas to go to work here soon.

Interesting. The energy sector (coal, oil, gas) actually likes McCarthy. They call her 'very reasonable' and 'willing to change regulations based on their input'.

Is that just a knee-jerk reaction, or do you have a specific complaint about McCarthy? Because even Big Oil-funded climate denier James Inhofe supports her.

And, of course, energy prices are dropping dramatically under Obama. For example:

Electricity Declines 50% as Shale Spurs Natural Gas Glut: Energy

  • 9 votes
#1.14 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:59 PM EST

Oh yay, we’ve been reduced to selecting people from one of the worst companies to ever have been started in the US, Wal-mart, for what should be an important post in the government. Wonder if she’ll institute wally-world polices? Low pay, inferior products from china, and discrimination for everyone.

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:13 PM EST

Ido - your post get to be stupidier every day. Do you sit up nights thinking up stupidity or does it come to you naturally? I'm guessing it's your natural response to anything.

You are one of the lowest simpletons posting and you prove it daily!

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#1.16 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:15 PM EST

@ Seeking Sanity,

"Ido - your post get to be stupidier every day. Do you sit up nights thinking up stupidity or does it come to you naturally? I'm guessing it's your natural response to anything.

You are one of the lowest simpletons posting and you prove it daily!"

And the personal attacks increase every day...just looking for the moderator to put a stop to the name calling and personal attacks. Anyone? I thought so..as long as you are perceived as "progressive" you can name call and curse all you want...so typical of the party of inclusion, tolerance, and hypocrisy. This is exactly the course followed by those who have no real contribution to make to a discussion. Again typical.

  • 9 votes
#1.17 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:48 PM EST

Notsosure10 - if you bothered to read Ido's posts you'd know she posts absolutely NOTHING every day. Try again!

I have yet to see YOU post any information - try again!

  • 4 votes
#1.18 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:50 PM EST

And, of course, energy prices are dropping dramatically under Obama. For example:

Electricity Declines 50% as Shale Spurs Natural Gas Glut: Energy

Yeah tell that to my rising (per kilowatt hour rate) ConEd bill… Energy prices dropping dramatically my foot.

  • 7 votes
#1.19 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:52 PM EST

How long will their confirmation be delayed while BFF's McNasty & Lindy play Benghazi-Gate?

Ah, that is what they call they game they play at the NoTell Motel. I thought it was something along the lines of Who Wants to Sink My Big Battleship.

  • 4 votes
#1.20 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:56 PM EST

Uh-Oh! I sense more "Conflicted" Libbies.

DO they support the Presidents nomination of a Wal-mart affiliated person, or do they hold on to their so called values and demand that he appoint someone else?

Pretty sure most of you Libbies are on record here for hating Wal Mart and vowing to never step a foot in their stores?

So, how do you reconcile this one my Libbie friends?

I do notice one tactic is to deflect to anything other than this nomination.......

  • 5 votes
#1.21 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:17 PM EST

Just say NO to the Keystone pipeline!!!

There ya go. Just say no to the jobs it would create too. This country has plenty of jobs... Oh, wait... never mind..

  • 2 votes
#1.22 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:22 PM EST

What will the two drama queens McCain & Graham

do to top Woodard?

They will recruit Woodward to join the Queens club, "We three queens".

  • 3 votes
#1.23 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:24 PM EST

"Just say NO to the Keystone pipeline!!!"

Who's the party of NO? Yeah, we'd really hate to help the economy by adding jobs.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:47 PM EST

Feisty, if the nominations makes their normal progress through the Senate, will you state on these boards you were wrong?

  • 1 vote
#1.25 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:50 PM EST

Is this another turn around, flip flop. Now the left is recruiting from "PHILANTHROPIC" Wal-Mart???? Doesn't the left hate Wal-Mart for low wages and anti-union philosophies??? But now it has a philanthropic arm. This hypocrisy continues to grow more sad and funnier daily.

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:00 PM EST

For the conservatives who suddenly whine about Walmart, read the article again. Please note that Sylvia Mathews Burwell was head of the "philantropic arm" of Walmart, the Walmart Foundation which has nothing to do with making Walmart's business decisions or the day-to-day operations and policies of Walmart the stores.

  • 6 votes
#1.27 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:01 PM EST

The good news is I don't think McCain or Graham can block the OMB or EPA Director positions.

Oh, look, there's another conservative whiner named Ben who knows nothing about the difference between Walmart the corporation and the Walmart Foundation. They are separate entities; one has nothing to do with the other's decisions.

  • 5 votes
#1.28 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:06 PM EST

It's still the same company. OMG what a pathetic answer.

  • 1 vote
#1.29 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:07 PM EST

Uh Jody, you might want to re-read my comment.

See there where it says "affiliated".

Now you tell me, is she or is she not affiliated?

Also please tell me, have most Libbies here stated they Want nothing, I mean nothing to do with Wal-mart?

WHy do you Libbies always look for a loop hole?

I suppose it's easier than having any actual convictions.

  • 2 votes
#1.30 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:16 PM EST

Remember Gov Oops, and other TeaPeople who advocated for abolishing the EPA and Energy Departments?....maybe throw in the Dep of Education.....just to be sure....Oops!

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#1.31 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:39 PM EST

here's a question for dems/repubs, why are we still using oil? Oh that's right obama, Mcain, pelosi, boehner, oh yeah they are getting paid by them, walmart goldman, BOA, the list goes on and on, you are all fighting for something that doesn't exsist, a party that is capable of real change for the american people.

Until you stop bowing down to the politicians and their masters and there are many. Why are we bowing down to china?, taking orders about our money from the federal reserve who isn't even a part of our gov't. We have access to geothermal, solar, wind and water power, yet it all comes down to oil and who's getting paid, maybe you all should argue about finding 2 new parties to actually have the american public in mind.

Because Obama sure as hell doesn't and bush before him didn't and clinton before him didn't either. Until the money is around and the federal reserve, the UN, Opec they are your masters.

You can argue about the nominations all you want, does it make a difference what you think, maybe a 100 years ago it did, but frankly the gov't don't care what you think anymore. You're to stupid to take care of yourself so we'll do it for you.

  • 1 vote
#1.32 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 6:00 PM EST

I hope these cabinet members will be more frugal than the Secretary of State who just gave away over $300 million to Syria and Egypt in one week.

    #1.33 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 7:10 PM EST

    I hope these cabinet members will be more frugal than the Secretary of State who just gave away over $300 million to Syria and Egypt in one week

    This comment should of come with a giant NEON - idiot alert, read at your own peril! lol

    Psst... the SOS has ZERO authority to spend money, you moron!

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    #1.34 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 7:27 PM EST

    Any questions?

    Just one, please provide the link for when the SOS was given authority to spend $$$???

    Last time I checked, spending originates in the House...

    Thanks for playing Dumbfux!

      #1.36 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 7:40 PM EST

      Last time I checked, spending originates in the House...

      Last time I checked, we have a President who does not pay much attention to the Constitution and bypasses Congress all the time.

      Climate Change:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-23/obama-could-bypass-congress-to-fulfill-climate-pledge.html

      Debt Ceiling:

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-18563_162-20076575-3.html?assetTypeId=41

      Afghanistan:

      http://www.examiner.com/article/president-obama-to-extend-billions-of-dollars-aid-to-afghanistan

      Muslim Brotherhood:

      http://www.independentsentinel.com/2012/03/obama-to-bypass-congress-give-1-5-billion-to-muslim-brotherhood/

        #1.37 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 7:55 PM EST

        Last time I checked, spending originates in the House...

        Again, my comments still stand, while you twist & turn in the realm of nonsense! ;o)

        Have a nice night! lol

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        #1.38 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 8:57 PM EST

        RedAirHead....You might want to recite the Consitution to Obama since he seems to have forgotten the subject he taught in college. Obama has and will continue to bypass Congress on expenditures he cannot get through the legislative process. I gave you links to a few times he did just that. And Obama is now sending Kerry around the world for the giveaway tour with his full backing I'm sure.

          #1.39 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:06 PM EST

          Keystone pipeline is the pathway to China's prosperity !!!

          The 1% get Billions !!!

          China gets the Oil !!!

          The American Joe gets pollution !!!

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          #1.40 - Tue Mar 5, 2013 9:02 AM EST

          McConnell's wife thinks the keystone pipeline would be good for her homeland !!!

          • 1 vote
          #1.41 - Tue Mar 5, 2013 9:13 AM EST
          Reply

          Hell I wonder how long it will take to get these confirmed since our Yahoo Legislature seems to concentrate more on taking hostages then actually doing business. Hope it doesn't interfere with their Vacation schedule.

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          #2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 10:48 AM EST

          The GNOP will have more serious matters to debate.....naming post offices....vacation schedules....repealing Obamacare....tanning appointments and the like.....but no serious time to do the business of the country....

          Maybe they will stall long enuf until Hillary is President!

          • 19 votes
          #2.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 10:58 AM EST

          Maybe they will stall long enuf until Hillary is President!

          We've gotta make sure that their political careers are over by then.

          Vote the TeaPeople OUT, locally, statewide and nationally!

          • 21 votes
          #2.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:06 AM EST

          I wonder how many of the newly named post offices will now be closed.

          • 13 votes
          #2.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:06 AM EST

          Cough....cough......we don't need.....cough.......any environmental regulations....cough.......

          • 19 votes
          #2.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:19 AM EST

          I see you and I are on the same page this morning, Floyd! ☺

          • 10 votes
          #2.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:28 AM EST


          chilled

          Bev, is the Daily Currant, satirical ....?

          If not, Woodward needs serious medication for his paranoia.


          chilled, yup it's like the onion.

          I thought I'd throw it in for a little flavor. I agree Woodard needs therapy badly.

          • 11 votes
          #2.6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:37 AM EST

          Here is the joke of the day"

          Calling his choice a “brilliant scientist,” Obama said Moniz “knows that we can produce more energy and grow our economy while still taking care of our air, our water, and our climate.”

          This president is too stupid to understand what brilliant is, and by making the statement he made, he provides the proof. What a jerk.

          • 5 votes
          #2.7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:02 PM EST

          Shipwrecked - the STUPID one here is you. You'd have to reach up to touch the soles of President Obama's shoes as far as intellect goes - metaphorically speaking.

          • 8 votes
          #2.8 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:17 PM EST

          FEISTY, BEVERLY, ERIC, where is the PIG. Do you libtards ever have anything positive to say?

          • 4 votes
          #2.9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:42 PM EST

          joe - why pick on the liberals? Do the far righties ever have anything positive or accurate to say?

          • 6 votes
          #2.10 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:51 PM EST

          seeking, picking on liberals is the right thing to do. Your camp is a cancer to this once great country.

          • 7 votes
          #2.11 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:05 PM EST

          joe-2849984 . . .

          Your camp is a cancer to this once great country.

          Well our "camp" gets elected by the majority of the people, joe. We're all tired of your ilk stating the country was "once" great. According to the GOP the greatness was in the 1950s and it's been downhill ever since, correct? Well, I'd suggest you get on back in your bunker. This country is moving forward and embracing technology and change. Your camp IS the problem.

          • 4 votes
          #2.12 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:20 PM EST

          joe - we still have a GREAT country. The fact that you are too blind to know that shows where the cancer really lies - with far righters like you! How sad you have no faith in our great nation. However, since your party has dismal "leadership" I guess you base your delusion on that!

          • 4 votes
          #2.13 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:20 PM EST

          "joe' open challenge here for you to dispute if you can come up with the facts to do so. Actually do some research that does not consist of the right wing propaganda machine led by Faux Lying News. The research I refer to would be non-biased/FACTUAL studies into when America has been a growing vibrant nation. You will be looking for American progress under Republican/Conservative economic and social policies, vs. America progress under "Democratic/Liberal economic and social policies. Big hint here, you will lose the challenge if you believe that America prospers under "Republican/Conservative economic and social policies". Then after actually doing the research, please get back to this forum with your ignorant viewpoints on liberals.

          • 4 votes
          #2.14 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:53 PM EST
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          Hey seekingsanity we had a great country till you FK'n liberal asss holes put the sand monkey in the white house.Your all FK'n morronic asss holes.You should also change your name to seeking a brain.ASSS Whipe.

          • 2 votes
          #2.15 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:54 PM EST

          Nazareth,

          You have a flawed character about you. There is no place for that kind of language here.

          • 2 votes
          #2.16 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:00 PM EST

          Nazar

          we had a great country till you FK'n liberal asss holes put the sand monkey in the white house.

          Awwwww poor little racist baby is mad. BOOOOHOOOOO!!!

          • 7 votes
          #2.17 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:12 PM EST

          Do the far righties ever have anything positive or accurate to say?

          No, no they don't Seeking!....They feed on negativity about the Country and of course enjoy, absolutely relish inflammatory name calling, lies and slurs against OUR President Obama!

          • 1 vote
          #2.18 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:45 PM EST

          Nazareth - you and your filthy ilk have no place in decent society. Your lack of integrity and gutter character identify you as the garbage you are. Go away. Civilized adults don't need filth like you around.

          • 1 vote
          #2.19 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:30 PM EST

          Seeking Sanity - You like the word 'filth' more than the other kids like snow days.

            #2.20 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:01 PM EST

            alim - sorry but I call 'em as I see 'em. If Republicans didn't make such disgusting comments, I wouldn't have a reason to use the word filth!

              #2.21 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:07 PM EST

              The 1% GOP-TP Keystone pipeline is the pathway to pollution, "Where there is no vision, the people perish" !!!

              • 1 vote
              #2.22 - Tue Mar 5, 2013 9:41 AM EST
              Reply

              President Obama's new Energy Secretary will do wonders to bring oil to market produced domestically & from Canada.

              More importantly, his choice at the Dept. of No Energy is going to tell us all about the endless possibilities of renewable energy that cost 40% more than fossil fuels to produce a Kw hour of electricity - and where we are going to dispose all the end-of-life batteries out of electric cars. Maybe a landfill that makes a big kaboom?

              • 12 votes
              #3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:00 AM EST

              rebelwcause - if you knew anything you'd know that the early stages of EVERY new innovation are expensive and take time to work out and bring down costs. But, of course, your post show that you know NOTHING about innovation and just love to spout your vacuous stupidity for everyone to see.

              Fossil fuels are destroying this planet and will eventually run out. We HAVE to find better, renewable fuels if we are to survive. Try to wrap the few brain cells you have around the facts!

              • 18 votes
              #3.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:05 AM EST

              Seeking - we need solutions now! You like paying $4.40 for a gallon of gas? Our in the tank dollar is the largest contributing factor, along with foreign producers lack of confidence in our debt prospects forward, as to why oil is going up. Our dollars are not worth what they were - thanks to all our debt and the threat of hyper-inflation.

              • 8 votes
              #3.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:08 AM EST

              SeekingINsanity - and don't patronize me you naive fool.

              • 8 votes
              #3.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:12 AM EST

              rebelwcause - so your answer is to do NOTHING if it won't bring instant results, right? Try again. Our gas prices have fluctuated up and down for the past 12 years. Are they high now, yes. That will vary for the next several months. We ARE getting more oil from domestic drilling and that hasn't seemed to bring prices down, has it?

              Maybe you should look at the companies we subsidize who continue to rape the country for their outrageous profits.

              We HAVE to research and find new, renewable sources of energy NOW. There is no way to put this off and be in any way competitive in what will be new markets.

              Try to get a clue since you clearly DON'T have one! Oh, the naive fool here is CLEARLY YOU! Try to at least pretend to have a modicum of intelligence!

              • 13 votes
              #3.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:15 AM EST

              The answer, my friend who likes saying things you know are not so, is continue research in renewable energy.

              But don't piss on your shoes by not doing nothing to produce what works RIGHT NOW domestically while waiting on cost competitive renewable energy to become economically feasible.

              • 5 votes
              #3.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:20 AM EST

              We need energy infrastructure reform.....badly.....will both parties recognize this?

              • 11 votes
              #3.6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:21 AM EST

              Well, since there are other reasons we are paying so much for gas I wouldn't say that Seeking is naive. I would say the issue is more that you, rebel, have a political preference and the agenda you would like to see played out that keep you from seeing the whole picture as well.

              • 14 votes
              #3.7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:25 AM EST

              rebelwcause -

              Continued research doesn't bring prices down beyond a certain point. If you want to bring a product to market, you have to field test and install in real-world conditions as well.

              Most price comes from the manufacturing process. And startup is always painful and expensive. The idea is once mass-level production is achieved, the cost per unit becomes much, much less, as capital investments are paid off, production problems are worked out, and the supply becomes more stable and more numerous.

              Sure, solar panels don't produce as much energy as a gas-turbine. That's because the sun's energy hitting several square feet doesn't equal the chemical energy released when burning fossil fuels. That's why we need to bring our consumption down as well as using different sources of energy.

              For industrial capacity, we may never be able to go completely on solar/wind. That's why fusion is being researched and developed. But, to cut the funding for that in favor of fossil fuel subsidies is biting off your face to spite your nose (I know it's wrong, but it fits better). And the Keystone Pipeline isn't even going to do that. Most of it's refined gasoline is going to China. It's part of the world market, and if we do something so stupid to restrict the amount by law that can leave the country, we might as well step into a giant viper pit with a big dumb look on our faces. At least it would be quicker and less painful.

              • 14 votes
              #3.8 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:30 AM EST

              Ram, affordable energy for all Americans is not political - except to dedicated, naive dreamers on the left. They cannot find not one good reason to be against affordable energy for all their "little guys" (what an insult to the poor and working poor and lefties don't even care) so they say it is politics.

              Mostly, they say it is corrupt GOP politics. LMAO - what charlatans!

              • 8 votes
              #3.9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:35 AM EST

              ram and Janstince - perfectly stated.

              But, as you can see, rebelwcause prefers to dig in and not face the truth. Then when it is presented to him, he retort with crudeness.

              He has no arguments to post. Again, thank you!

              • 10 votes
              #3.10 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:39 AM EST

              Seekinginsanity - crudeness? Ya think? "Pissing on your shoes" was a metaphor favored by the hero of current day nanny state lefties Lyndon Johnson. In case you don't know your history he was the author of the most ineffective policies ever to help the poor and biggest waste of cash ever "The Great Society".

              I don't know the truth? You do when you support the biggest liar to hit the Oval Office since Nixon?

              LMAO!

              • 5 votes
              #3.11 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:48 AM EST

              And that Keystone pipeline is nothing but a route through an environmentally sensitive area of the midwest to deliver CANADIAN tar sand oil (highly toxic) to souther US refineries to then be sold on the world market, mostly to China by the Canadian oil company (and I believe that same company has now been sold to the Chinese.) It is NOT going to be available to the US market, and there is NO law that the US could pass that could force a percentage of it to be sold domestically at any cheaper price than the oil that is being produced right here AND EXPORTED. Or have you missed that we have become a major world exporter now of both oil and gas?

              • 12 votes
              #3.12 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:49 AM EST

              rebelwcause - so now you have a reason for being crude? Makes no difference - you're still crude and clueless.

              Biggest liar in the oval office since Nixon was clearly George Bush - also worst President in modern history. Was and always will be. You just can't win today, can you?

              • 9 votes
              #3.13 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:55 AM EST

              sanity - just a quick note about this renewable energy thing... in an above post you claimed this renewable energy stuff is expensive because it's new.

              Solar panels have been in use sine the early 1970's. That is 40 years ago - how much longer do we have to wait until it becomes affordable? And how much more of our tax dollars need to be dumped into it?

              Electric cars have been around for 100 years... That's new? They didn't work well then... How much longer until that becomes affordable? How much more tax money?

              Just wondering

              • 10 votes
              #3.14 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:16 PM EST

              NJ/rebel,

              Great posts!

              • 3 votes
              #3.15 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:23 PM EST

              rebelwacause made it quite clear his ranting was political with his post 3.9 He is a Republican using Fox news talking points.

              • 6 votes
              #3.16 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:39 PM EST

              Solar panels have been in use sine the early 1970's. That is 40 years ago - how much longer do we have to wait until it becomes affordable?

              According to Deutsche Bank, solar is already close to achieving parity in some markets:

              Deutsche Bank just released new analyses concluding that the global solar market will become sustainable on its own terms by the end of 2014, no longer needing subsidies to continue performing.

              The German-based bank said that rooftop solar is looking especially robust, and sees strong demand in solar markets in India, China, Britain, Germany, India, and the United States. As a result, Deutsche Bank actually increased its forecast for solar demand in 2013 to 30 gigawatts — a 20 percent increase over 2012.

              Here’s Renew Economy with a summary of Deutsche Banks’s logic:

              More at the link.

              One of the biggest cost issues with solar in the U.S. is the cost of installation - up to 3 times what it costs in countries like Germany. And Germans can get through the permit process in as little as 8 days, while permitting can take up to 6 months here.

              The barriers to solar aren't based in technology anymore. We can do this, if we address permit hurdles and installation costs. After all, Germans aren't 'smarter' than we are.

              They just seem to have the political will to solve problems.

              • 5 votes
              #3.17 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:13 PM EST

              Further,

              The Germans made solar energy targets years ago that were by now supposed to be 20% of their total power usage. They didn't meet that goal, they've exceeded them and are going much further. The arguments made against renewables has always been, can't do it, costs too much. I seem to think it's more like they haven't figured out a way to charge for sunlight. Much like gas mileage, can't get to 30MPG, it'll destroy the auto industry, we're at 50MPG and going further. We can't have clean air in Southern California, wrong, the air here is so much better than 1980. We can't keep Lake Erie from catching on fire, can't take lead out of the gasoline, can't cut emissions, can't stop cutting the tops off of mountains to get at coal, can't stop acid rain, the list is endless.

              The conservatives have been in the pocket of big oil for so long now, and the sky has been falling for so long, the only thing being conserved is our dependency on environmentally harmful fossil fuels and massive profits for the oil industry. Progress comes from progressives, evolve or die knuckledraggers. By the logic of the conservatives we'd all still be cutting down forests and burning the wood.

              This is why environmental laws must be set by the government, the polluters only want to pollute, anything which benefits the people or the planet is to be attacked. The EPA is on the hit list for Republicans. We will not let that happen. Someone needs to save the Republicans from themselves.

              • 2 votes
              #3.18 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:11 PM EST
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              Oh, great! a corporate exec to head the Office of Management & Budget. And from Walmart, to boot. Didn'tWalmart recently fire hundreds of workers for requesting a meeting with management to talk about allowing them to join a union? Talk about inviting the fox to guard the henhouse. Does anyone still ractually believe that Obama and the Dems are not owned anad operated by the big business, just as much as are the GOPers?

              • 5 votes
              Reply#4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:03 AM EST

              Read the story again...she is from the WalMart Foundation, not the WalMart corporate offices.

              The choice of Burwell, 47, may help to assuage critics who say that Obama’s cabinet lacks enough women and candidates with private sector experience. She's also no stranger to Washington; before her post at the WalMart Foundation, Burwell served as deputy budget director and deputy White House chief of staff under President Bill Clinton.

              • 7 votes
              #4.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:52 AM EST
              Reply

              why would this moron need a budget director? when has the idiot ever showed any interest in a budget?

              • 10 votes
              Reply#5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:18 AM EST

              robert - the moron here is you. It was Bush/Cheney who said deficits and budgets don't matter.

              President Obama has submitted a budget every year. It is up to Congress to pass one after that. If the GOP stopped sitting on their hands, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.

              • 13 votes
              #5.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:19 AM EST

              Bush was wrong to let the deficits don't matter crowd take control in the West Wing.

              Sanity, the president does not submit a budget. The Congress does for his approval. The House has done so. Reid pitched them all in his circular file at the direction of his boss, Obama. You see, they do not understand negotiate. They do understand the politics of the blame game. 'Nuff said.

              You are sucking up Obama's lies faster than he can spit them out.

              • 8 votes
              #5.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:57 AM EST

              why would this moron need a budget director? when has the idiot ever showed any interest in a budget?

              Oh yes, because some Rush Nut told you so.

              • 6 votes
              #5.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:05 PM EST

              Sorry reb, but you are wrong. Have you read the Congressional Budget Act o 1974? The procedure is as follows:

              The President submits his annual budget request (which he has done each year, and both houses have rejected because they didn't like either the reduction of their pet "pork" projects, or the means for funding each line item - taxes, etc.)

              Congress (each house) passes the budget resolution

              Congress then passes the actual spending and tax legislation (appropriations bills) for the president to sign into law, and from which each department then receives its funding.

              http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155

              • 3 votes
              #5.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:24 PM EST

              anti-trust - thanks for explaining procedures to rebelwithoutamind. He's totally clueless but eager to post nonsense!

              • 3 votes
              #5.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:19 PM EST

              anti-trust, Great post!! I'm sure those stupid right wing nuts like "rebel" and others will still LIE and say the president has never produce a budget proposal.

              • 2 votes
              #5.6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:46 PM EST

              I stand corrected on procedure.

              Now, we can consider the facts:

              1. Pres. required to submit before first Monday in Feb. for next fiscal year. No president since FY 1923 has been late two years in a row. Obama was late to file 3 of first 4 years.

              2. Senate required by law to submit a budget resolution by April 15. Never has in Obama's tenure.

              What's your excuse now? Governance is a dirty word to you lefties.

              • 4 votes
              #5.7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:47 PM EST

              "Facts....facts..we don't need no hoover dam facts...we make up the facts"...GNOP Mantra circa Mythe Romney etal...

              • 5 votes
              #5.8 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:51 PM EST

              rebelwcause - you have the nerve to fling your insults when all the Republicans in Congress wanted to do for the last 5 years is block EVERYTHING the President proposes - first to make him a one-term President and now - well now because he got re-elected?

              Governance and doing one's job are terms the far right doesn't understand at all! You fit right in!

              • 3 votes
              #5.9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:54 PM EST

              1. Pres. required to submit before first Monday in Feb. for next fiscal year. No president since FY 1923 has been late two years in a row. Obama was late to file 3 of first 4 years. 2. Senate required by law to submit a budget resolution by April 15. Never has in Obama's tenure.

              1. So now you trying to cover your tracks, First you claim the president never proposed a budget and now you saying he did but was LATE. LMAO.. Source please, let's see a link to back that up.

              2. How can the Senate pass a legislative budget with this thing called "FILLIBUSTER". In the last 4yrs, everytime the Dems in the Senate put something on the table in reference to the budget, GOP fillibuster the damn thing. But I know, you still wanna blame harry reid, right...

              Before you make silly comments, you need to get your FACTS straight or at least do some research on things such as Federal budgets.

              • 5 votes
              #5.10 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:01 PM EST

              Jason - facts are stubborn things. And unlike lefties I am willing to admit when I have made an error.

                #5.11 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:04 PM EST
                Reply

                Obama is the
                most radical, destructive and worst President in history. He is arrogant, a pot
                head, lazy (only works 10am to 4pm) incompetent, lawless, a fraud, never had a
                real job, aloof and a COMMUNIST. Obama and the Democrat party are continuing to
                destroy the great US economy. In four years they have; deficit spent $6.5
                trillion (most of any Pres.) with nothing to show for it, increased national
                debt to $16.5 trillion and counting, real unemployment rate of 15%, no job
                growth, 8.5 million lost jobs, 24 million underemployed, black/hispanic unemployment
                over 30%, hate oil/coal industries, fossil fuels, military, private sector,
                success, constitution, right to bear arms, over 1,808 soldiers killed in
                Iraq/Afgn since Obama became Pres., one in six people in poverty (highest ever),
                stole $716 billion in Medicare benefits from seniors to fund Obamacare, wasted
                billions of taxpayer funds on scam clean energy deals like Solyndra and Ener1
                to campaign donors, disastrous Obamacare has already raised health rates 50%,
                is largest tax increase in history and now costs $2.8 trillion, foreign policy
                of cowardice and appeasement, supports worst Ex Sec. of State in history,
                Hillary Clinton, who is responsible for the murder of Libyan ambassador and
                three staffers in Benghazi, supports worst AG in history Eric Holder, who is
                responsible for killing a border agent, 49 million on food stamps and increased
                business killing govt regulation/employment more than any other Pres. Obama
                should be impeached.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:16 PM EST

                BlueHorseSh!t...amazing. I've never seen so many lies covered in so few words! Karl Rove couldn't do any better!

                • 13 votes
                #6.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:31 PM EST

                BlueHorseSh*t - well your name is definitely indicative of the crap you spew in your completely false and ignorant post!

                • 8 votes
                #6.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:20 PM EST

                Hey, you Libs!

                You are living in nutworld. Blue horseshoes has it on the money.

                • 3 votes
                #6.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:33 PM EST

                Logico,

                So you saying a conservative world would be "Perfect" or something. Another clueless idiot..

                • 5 votes
                #6.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:49 PM EST

                Jason797 - logico has no logic - no sense at all!

                • 5 votes
                #6.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:55 PM EST

                Hey Libs,

                More people would be willing to discuss policy if you and your party in the Senate would not resort to name calling and hysterics long enough to probe intelligent questions. Now matter how you look at it the President and both houses of Congress have failed to produce a budget for four years let alone one that matches revenue to spending. So how is that break down in process helping America? While you blame everyone not in the room or chair today you have actually not provided leadership or ideas to stop the runaway spending. So one must conclude you agree that budgets don't matter. Just when will you and your party add any real discussion to the matter besides "raise taxes"? Most of us in both parties have lived long enough to know that is the path to current wasteful government practices. So lets stop destroying America from within and be part of the solution shall we? Lets talk about making spending match revenue right now not some distant time in the future. Lets show real leadership instead of gamesmanship shall we?

                Next

                • 3 votes
                #6.6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:02 PM EST

                I agree seeking, logico is another clueless nutjob..

                • 4 votes
                #6.7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:04 PM EST

                Notsosure10 - clearly you're not so sure. Boehner was the one who called Democrats "asses" last week. Try again.

                Both parties have been part of the spending problem- even idiot Boehner admitted that. But, apparently even though he's the lowest of the low, he's still heads above you!

                • 4 votes
                #6.8 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:26 PM EST

                Bluehorseshoes - There is so little accurate in your statements that it is hard to pick what to respond to. Notsosure10 - you are much more reasonable and logical, but I would say that both sides are to blame on the points you raise. Plenty of proposals have been made but rejected by one side or the other. I say that the government should take what the majority of American people want (the latest WSJ/NBC poll appears to hit it right on the head if you read the data tables) and follow that. This is what we hire government officials for, not to fight in a blind manner for what they want instead. The reason America has gotten off track is that re-districting and special interests have thrown that off. The fact that Boehner said this weekend he has no idea what to do about it is very telling. We need to get some people in there who know how to negotiate, how to compromise and how to deliver what America is looking for.

                • 4 votes
                #6.9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:27 PM EST

                SeekingSanity

                Notsosure10 - clearly you're not so sure. Boehner was the one who called Democrats "asses" last week. Try again.

                Geez Seeking you are out of form today and making it too easy. He didn't call them asses, he told them to get off their asses and do something.

                Nice try though. You got the asses part right.

                • 2 votes
                #6.10 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:33 PM EST

                Blue-

                You forgot Kenyan Muslim!!! You're slipping a little. Don't make me call Rush...

                • 3 votes
                #6.11 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:29 PM EST

                Talk - working and posting, I make mistakes and you are absolutely right. Still he's made derogatory comments in the past but I was clearly wrong on this one!

                • 1 vote
                #6.12 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:33 PM EST

                Each and every one of your blue BS talking points is easily refuted. First where the hell were you when Shrub Jr. (who is and will be the worst, most destructive President certainly since Hoover) doubled the debt, was handed a surplus and turned it into a deficit overnight? He handed a systemic deficit to Obama higher than where it is now. Republicans have destroyed the once great American economy, this is the clear record, as in when was the de/recession, 2007?

                Since the stimulus, jobs have increased every year, unlike the 700,000 jobs a month being lost during Shrub Jr.s reign. The only sector to experience overall job losses is government workers due to Republican austerity measures. (Didn't give a damn when Bush was putting the wars on a credit card). They lost truckloads worth billions in cash in the totally mis-manged war in Iraq, not a peep from the cons.

                Healthcare has increased at the slowest rate in years since the ACA was passed. Few if any taxes have been raised so far from the ACA.

                Doesn't everyone hate the oil/gas companies for their raping of the American people? You don't think their way beyond record profits are because of their benevolence? Fossil fuels are for fossilzed tea partiers, somebody needs to drill baby drill a hole in their heads and let the air out.

                While the world had disdain for the previous administration, SOS Clinton has restored American credibility around the world, (that comes from foreign governments not Faux news). "Old Europe" had the balls to tell the emperor C Plus Augustus he had no clothes. Lies and more lies from them and in front of the whole world. Nope no WMD there? Some in the Bush administration remain indicted in foreign countries for crimes. Torture and warrantless wiretapping, so much for the Constitution.

                Obama supported the overthrow of Libya, Egypt without American boots on the ground. He "cowardly" went after Bin Laden as opposed to "bring it on,smoke em out" blustering. The military is appreciative of the fact that he has pulled them out of the S..thole of Iraq.

                You don't like food stamps and unemployment (however a a far bigger blank check for the Wall Street bailout from Bush is OK) but that is what happens when careless behavior crashes the economy and caring people come to clean up the steaming pile.

                He hates success? Well if success is defined as pillaging companies, selling off their assets piecemeal, and shipping the remaining jobs to China, all the while parking your profits in offshore tax havens, right Ritt MORMONey.

                And for the piece-de-resistance (just cause I know you hate France), he beat the regressive parties ass in the last election and last but not least he's black(just cause I know you hate that to).

                • 1 vote
                #6.13 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 8:53 PM EST

                @ Seeking

                I thought he told them to get off thier asses. I may be wrong but, I didn't see or hear him call anyone asses. oooopppss doesn't fit into your narative. I get it

                  #6.14 - Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:45 AM EST
                  Reply

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Management_and_Budget

                  The OMB's predominant mission is to assist the President in overseeing the preparation of the federal budget and to supervise its administration in Executive Branch agencies. In helping to formulate the President's spending plans, the OMB evaluates the effectiveness of agency programs, policies, and procedures, assesses competing funding demands among agencies, and sets funding priorities. The OMB ensures that agency reports, rules, testimony, and proposed legislation are consistent with the President's Budget and with Administration policies.

                  In addition, the OMB oversees and coordinates the Administration's procurement, financial management, information, and regulatory policies. In each of these areas, the OMB's role is to help improve administrative management, to develop better performance measures and coordinating mechanisms, and to reduce any unnecessary burdens on the public.

                  The OMB's Critical Missions:[5]

                  1. Budget development and execution is a prominent government-wide process managed from the EOP and a device by which a President implements his policies, priorities, and actions in everything from the Department of Defense to NASA.
                  1. The OMB manages other agencies financials, paperwork, and IT.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:17 PM EST

                  Go figure - Birds of a Feather - Flock Together!

                    Reply#8 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:26 PM EST

                    It will be fun watching the look on the teabagger's faces while watching the Canadian Oil transversing the United States on its way to China and Japan. Polluting US watersheds every step of the way. That is what you are really leaving your children and grandhildren, a totally polluted Midwest all for a few jobs for a few people.

                    • 3 votes
                    #8.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:34 PM EST
                    Reply

                    OH-OH! When will he learn!?!?...he didn't pick Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly....there will only be more grandstanding and filibustering on these. What make the President of the United States think that he gets to pick his own cabinet....the audacity!

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:29 PM EST

                    WOW...and he finally picks a woman!! AND no less from the biggest company that hires the most minimum wage folks. Nice!!

                    • 6 votes
                    #9.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:35 PM EST

                    anyone nominated by obama the ass is damaged goods...

                      #9.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 8:50 PM EST
                      Reply

                      Funny, but doesn't it seem as if Obama's choices for his administration is like going to a restaurant where you can't find anything on the menu you would ever order?

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#10 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:52 PM EST

                      logico - NO

                      • 6 votes
                      #10.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:22 PM EST

                      That's because you only eat at McDonalds.

                      • 4 votes
                      #10.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:26 PM EST

                      logico - actually I NEVER eat at McDonalds - try again! I'm guessing that's what you consider fine quisine!

                      • 5 votes
                      #10.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:38 PM EST

                      And BTW logico, Seeking NEVER steps foot in Wal-Mart either.

                      • 1 vote
                      #10.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:34 PM EST

                      Talk - I hate the taste of McDonalds - way too greasy so again, I don't eat there. I live in Chicago - we don't have a WalMart in the city so you're right. Haven't been in a WalMart in a very long time. Next???

                      • 1 vote
                      #10.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:34 PM EST
                      Reply

                      Everyone is bitchin' Obama hasn't appointed women for his cabinet. Just confirm them and let the chips fall as they may.

                      And APPROVE the Keystone pipeline. No reason why the environment should be protected there when it isn't done across the States equally.

                        Reply#11 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:55 PM EST

                        I can't speak for sanity but I don't.

                          #11.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 4:57 PM EST
                          Reply

                          Correct me if I'm wrong, but if we are going to have a budget director shouldn't we have a budget.

                          • 5 votes
                          Reply#12 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:56 PM EST

                          Tim - yeah you'd think Congress would actually work and get one done, right?

                          • 8 votes
                          #12.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:23 PM EST

                          Ask moron Harry Reid!

                          • 6 votes
                          #12.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:30 PM EST

                          Ask A*H John "man of orange" Boehner.....spending Bills orginate in the House....

                          • 3 votes
                          #12.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:54 PM EST
                          Reply

                          weren't Jon Corzine and Jesse Jackson, Jr. originally on Obama's short list for cabinet positions?......

                          • 5 votes
                          Reply#13 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 12:59 PM EST

                          HopeisGone - NO

                          • 4 votes
                          #13.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:23 PM EST

                          CORZINE WAS!

                          • 4 votes
                          #13.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:28 PM EST

                          logico - source please!

                          • 5 votes
                          #13.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:41 PM EST

                          Where is that source "logico". Oh yeah, you don't have one.

                          • 4 votes
                          #13.4 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:51 PM EST

                          Her is a couple of links that created some of the buzz for Jon Corzine as Treasury Secretary in Obama's cabinet. Just saying there was a time possibly when Obama thought about such things.

                          http://www.politisite.com/2011/11/03/remember-that-fundraiser-at-jon-corzine-home-%e2%80%9cwall-street-guy%e2%80%9d-is-now-being-investigated-by-the-fbi/

                          http://www.thenation.com/blog/treasury-secretary-jon-corzine

                          • 1 vote
                          #13.5 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:09 PM EST

                          Notsosure10 - MIGHT have thought about such things - is totally different than professing that he actually DID consider it!

                          • 5 votes
                          #13.6 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:27 PM EST

                          Seeking,

                          MIGHT have thought about such things - is totally different than professing that he actually DID consider it!

                          BINGO, How could Not10 get a "thought" confused with somebody actually "doing" something.

                          • 3 votes
                          #13.7 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:35 PM EST

                          Talk - according to "The Deal"? Really, you're quoting THAT as an absolute that Corzine was on the list? Try again!

                          • 1 vote
                          #13.9 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:37 PM EST
                          Reply

                          She will do,what mitt couldent do,,,

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#14 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:08 PM EST

                          Meanwhile, Obama's NLRB appointments have been ruled unconstitutional. Obama has been declared a dictator in violation of the US constitution and should be set to Gitmo for processing!

                          • 4 votes
                          Reply#15 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:34 PM EST

                          rober34 - get your head examined. Nothing you've posted is true - except in your feeble, delusional, demented mind - and I use the term mind loosely!

                          • 3 votes
                          #15.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:42 PM EST

                          @ SeekingSanity,

                          Here is a link to the court decisions on NRLB appointments so far...seems rober34 is correct.

                          "Court Rules Obama NLRB Appointments Unconstitutional

                          President Obama’s recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board violated the Constitution, a federal court of appeals ruled today, also raising questions about Obama’s pick for head of the Consumer Financial Protection Board.

                          The court called the appointment of three members to the National Labor Relations Board in January 2012 “an unconstitutional act,” because it took place when the Senate was in an “intrasession” recess, rather than an “intersession” recess. President Obama appointed Richard Cordray to be head of the CFPB at the same time."

                          http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/court-rules-obama-nlrb-appointments-unconstitutional/

                          Now what do you have to say? Perhaps an apology?

                          • 3 votes
                          #15.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:15 PM EST

                          Notsosure10 - it's certainly not an impeachable offense or the GOP would have been all over it! Try again!

                          • 5 votes
                          #15.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:28 PM EST
                          Reply

                          Ernest Moniz is the president’s choice to serve at the helm of the Energy Department in the place of outgoing head Steven Chu.

                          I think we need an economist to run the Energy Department. At least they understand that cheap abundant power that is within our grasp should be developed. With that we could enter a time of unparalleled prosperity.

                          Obama can put this off for another 4 years, but he can't stop it. What he can stop, is the ethanol program. We will be using 60% of our corn crop to produce enough ethanol for his mandated 15E gasoline. It take as much energy to produce the ethanol as the energy we get out of it. We gain nothing. But we have lost most of our corn crop. We may as well just dump all that corn in the ocean for all the good it is doing us.

                          It is insanity. And it all began with Moniz.

                            Reply#16 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:40 PM EST

                            I agree, but don't forget the negative impact the e-15 will have on older cars! Newer cars can handle it. Could this just be a way to keep GM running?

                              #16.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:07 PM EST

                              At least the money made from ethanol stays right here in he U.S. and doesn't go to Arab countries. It goes to farmers and producers of American made energy.

                              • 2 votes
                              #16.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:24 PM EST

                              Bill,

                              We may as well just dump all that corn in the ocean for all the good it is doing us. It is insanity. And it all began with Moniz.

                              Not sure why you single out Moniz here. Moniz has been speaking out against reliance on corn-based ethanol for nearly a decade. See for example, this statement he made to push back against Bush's call for increased ethanol production in 2007:

                              President Bush called on fuel makers to produce 35 billion gallons of alternative fuels a year by 2017. That's not going to happen using corn as the basis for ethanol, said Ernest J. Moniz, director of the MIT Energy Initiative.

                              Moniz has been warning against corn-based ethanol.

                              • 4 votes
                              #16.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:42 PM EST
                              Reply

                              OBAMA NAMES

                              NEW BUDGET CHIEF..DON QUIXOTE..To Head up department..Will be assisted..

                              In Critical Key areas,..by UNCLE SCROOGE and Huey,..Dewey...and Louie

                              • 3 votes
                              Reply#17 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:42 PM EST

                              aliblahblah - oh, you've clearly confused Obama's appointments with those of George Bush!

                              • 3 votes
                              #17.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 1:43 PM EST
                              Reply

                              So he chose a woman, specifically Burwell to take the "blunt" off the negative affects of his short commings to middle class americans and how his sequester will affect them! Not my words, MSNBC words. Just about says it all doesn't it! Premature shades of how he dumped all the blame on Hilary for the embassy! The fact that he must replace some because they chose not to stand by him for 4 more years makes quite a statement!

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#18 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:04 PM EST

                              Burwell will be in charge of blunting the effect of the sequester on middle class families. Meanwhile he is throwing seniors under the bus with his accepting the Chained Cola better know as starve out the seniors.

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#19 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:13 PM EST

                              I have to air this on this subject as they lock out all the others for comments as they hide. Obamacare has kicked in and hurting the seniors already. I can only HOPE AND PRAY that all who voted for Obama will get their due and have theirselves and seniors in family suffer the MOST. This is all while he and the Congress get the best care (undersevered) and the non taxpaying majority of this country will get better care then you and your familys. GOOD decision in 2012 and may it hurt, you and yours may have not had it happen yet but get PREPARED for your to be regretted decision.

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#20 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:17 PM EST

                              A pox on your house sir. If anything the ACA is a bridge for seniors to live long enough to get to Medicare. It's your side that wants to cut senior security. It's your side that wants to cut Medicaid for those in nursing homes. Lavishly spending on wars, now thats the ticket on your side. I hope its not the Frank who gets spanked.

                              • 1 vote
                              #20.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:02 PM EST
                              Reply

                              Well said bluehorshoe! Everything you said is the truth and actually happened. Some on the thread have short memories!

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#21 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:18 PM EST

                              Hey Libs,

                              More people would be willing to discuss policy if you and your party in the Senate would not resort to name calling and hysterics long enough to probe intelligent questions. Now matter how you look at it the President and both houses of Congress have failed to produce a budget for four years let alone one that matches revenue to spending. So how is that break down in process helping America? While you blame everyone not in the room or chair today you have actually not provided leadership or ideas to stop the runaway spending. So one must conclude you agree that budgets don't matter. Just when will you and your party add any real discussion to the matter besides "raise taxes"? Most of us in both parties have lived long enough to know that is the path to current wasteful government practices. So lets stop destroying America from within and be part of the solution shall we? Lets talk about making spending match revenue right now not some distant time in the future. Lets show real leadership instead of gamesmanship shall we?

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                              Reply#22 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:20 PM EST

                              Well stated!

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                              #22.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:24 PM EST

                              "Notsosure10" NOT CORRECT. The Senate has consistently returned budget revisions to the House. Which have almost all been rejected. Why? Because there is ZERO attempt at compromise from the Republican controlled House.

                              Let me give you a simple example here. Your significant other plans a trip that you both will be paying for. You happen to love sports, she happens to love shopping and the opera. She plans a two week trip to New York which includes non-stopping shopping and a several trips to the Metropolitan Opera. And she say's to you: "Okay the trip is ready to go and I have great news. On Sunday, I found a great sports bar near Bloomingdales where you can watch sports in the morning before we go shopping in the afternoon." You reasonably state you would much prefer to do some shopping and catch the Opera a couple of times, while also attending a Knicks game and the Giants football game which happen to be on successive weekends. At that point she get's upset, states you are refusing to compromise and the fight is on because you have compromised and that compromise has been ignored.

                              That is what is happening in Congress. The Republicans in the House have consistently sent spending bills to the Democratic controlled Senate which they KNEW would not pass, because they are so one-sided with zero attempt at compromise. While at the same time using their majority in the House to block any Democratic/Progressive efforts at legislation and using their minority in the Senate to continuously filibuster and initiate blind holds on any legislation that does not fit their agenda. Then they also literally tryed to destroy America's credit rating by using the debt ceiling as a political tool. And blamed that on the Democrats as well. Despite the fact that raising the debt ceiling has always been no problem. They followed that up by refusing to acknowledge that enormous amount of debt which has been accumulating for 30 years and they have a major hand in creating. Instead, it is all the Democratic party's fault.

                              And BOTH parties refuse to even acknowledge the most common sense budget which was presented by the Progressive Caucus.

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                              #22.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:18 PM EST

                              notsosure -- you mean like the 40 or so years of the first Ryan Plan.

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                              #22.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:07 PM EST
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                              Name one thing Obama has done to improve the lifestyle of a middle class tax payer since he has taken office...............waiting........still waiting......

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                              Reply#23 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:21 PM EST

                              I have the answer: Nothing!

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                              #23.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:01 PM EST

                              The President, be it a Republican or Democratic one, has ZERO say in money allocated from Congress for ANY class of American citizen. As president, he can submit a budget that technically favors one class over the other, but it is up to Congress to allocate the funds for that budget. And there is also ZERO doubt that literally since he was elected, Republicans in Congress have done EVERYTHING they can to block ANY legislation that is designed to help the lower, lower middle and middle classes. While CONSISTENTLY pushing for legislation that favors the top 5% of wealthy Americans, Wall Street and Corporations. The jobs bills presented by both the President and Democrats would have produced a minimum of 2 million jobs according to most economist. And by the way, the much derided Stimulus WORKED.

                              Now all of the above said, I also believe that President Obama in his second term, now that he is not up for reelection, should come down hard on Wall Street, Mega banks and Corporations that are sucking America dry through deregulation which allows them make enormous profits, while destroying the fabric of the American economy. And that "fabric" is America's Middle Class.

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                              #23.2 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 3:33 PM EST

                              His action averted the greatest depression since the thirties. next question? He also kept the tax rate on the middle class from going up, just to protect the already rich. The ACA has already caused the lowest increase in healthcare costs in a decade. Lots of people got refunds from insurance companies because they were gouging us. Why do you think healthcare has exceeded inflation for at least a decade? Why do you think the current Congress has passed all records for doing nothing?

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                              #23.3 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:09 PM EST
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                              Hey Obama how you gonna pay your new cabinet members, you forgot about the Obama Created Sequestration hiring freeze, your credit card is over its limit service denied Obama!

                              And who need to head the environment, finance departments when the airs fine,the waters clean and the countries broke......just sayin

                              As for energy well that green energy policy is working just fine,right????

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                              Reply#24 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:22 PM EST

                              Too bad the Three Stooges are gone. They would make perfect cabinet members for Barry. They wouldn't have a clue but wouldn't care They would come up with a solution but it would not be practical or work. They would not work hard and would be easily distracted.

                              Oh sorry I have just described his Cabinet. Barry you can put a saddle on a pig and call it a pony. But it is still a pig. 3 years and 10 months left. Hope we make it.

                              GBA

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                              Reply#25 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:23 PM EST

                              Yes, I hope we make it out from under the turtle boy and orange man to the next Democratic President Hillary Clinton. Suey baby. The Republicans tried but failed to destroy America for the middle class, we are going to come back strong and the knuckledragger/baggers will just die off already.

                                #25.1 - Mon Mar 4, 2013 9:17 PM EST
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