A GOP make over will surly happen come 2014. I usually pray for lost souls, not this time :)

Ever since the once-proud GOP hitched its wagon to the TP and the right wing lunatic fringe, it started a slow descent into oblivion. Until it divests itself of the failed ideology of ultra-conservatism and returns to a more moderate agenda, it will continue to circle the drain. We need the Republican Party of Eisenhower and Dirksen, not the hateful, destructive GOP we currently see that belongs to Boehner, Bachmann, Santorum, McConnell, Perry, and Palin.

What’s more, the polls shows the Democratic Party beats the Republican Party on almost every issue – looking out for middle class (by 22 points), Medicare (by 18 points), health care (16 points), reducing gun violence (15 points), Social Security (14 points), immigration (7 points) and even taxes (3 points) and the economy (2 points).

Duh! Things that middle class people depend on. That's a no brainer there.

The only issues where the GOP holds the advantage in the survey are reducing the federal deficit (by 6 points), controlling government spending (16 points) and ensuring a strong national defense (26 points).

Quite predictably things that hurt people (except the wealthy of course). They forgot to add lying, racism and fear mongering to that list.

People and "experts" were saying the same thing about the Democrats not having any new ideas just 8 years ago when they should have easily defeated Bush in 2004. Kerry was a weak candidate in 2004 like Romney was in 2012. That's all there is to it, nothing more, nothing less.

Boehner and his crew of obstructionists are imploding!!!!

Great, keep up the good work!!!!

Pigotry

The decline of the GOP (once a proud party of the Republicans) -declining fast at least during the Obama Administration - will be forever written in the books of US history as one of most spectacular collapses of a political institution.

And the most divisive, obstructionist EVER!!!!!

This is so bad, Boehner and his whole crew should be hit with a charge of Sedition!

Arizonatime

How about the Obama, Cloward - Piven agenda? Freaking, Socialist pigs. It will catch up to you Lefty Loons soon.

LOL!!! Brought to you by a loony from the land of bulldog Jan Brewer, and clown Joe Arpaio!! Priceless!!!! LOL!

Hey Jefferson, what got us out of the Great Depression of the 1930's? And why were we so prosperous during the 50's and 60's? You don't think the federal government had anything to do with that?

You seem to be only person who is scared, Marcus. You might want to change pants, by the way.

Despite the shortcomings of the gop, the dems have a lot to make up for as well. You that post your hatred (you know who you are) on here are NOT part of the solution but perpetuating the problem. We need a two party system; your socialistic obsession of creating a big government is too costly and takes away our freedoms. If you want to live in a regime move to russia or some other country that shares your ideals.

This so-called poll lacks credibility also because there is no explanation given who these pollsters are in the population. Besides, it is clearly biased and is based on too small a sampling that doesn't necessarily represent the total population.

National debt today: Nearing $16.585 trillion, growing 3.5 billion a week. Yea, go team!

Just remember you socialists........Pretty soon you're gonna run out of other peoples money........ then what???? Just keep a spending.......

oh really! Who told you that, FOX? Just so happens this country has more money now than anytime in it's history. It's just that fewer people have most of it and aren't willing to kick in their fair share. And they won't have to as long as they have fools like you who buy into their sob story about the nasty old Democrats trying to steal from them, when in actuality, they're stealing from us. btw, government spending is down from where it was.

"Make over ??

I am very proud to be a Republican and very happy with our delegates !!"

OK- I'll bite: WHICH delegates, the GOP ones, or the 'Bagger ones?

I wouldn't call 4% "resounding". Apparently the left does.

Marcus D-4300696

Why NO leadership Mr. Obama?

That's as old, and as ignorant as "quit campaigning Mr. President."

Wasn't it your buddy Limbaugh that said something to the effect of; If we have to destroy the economy to destroy Obama, let it happen?

I think all the republicians & the few democrats that signed the pledge to Norquist should be charged with treason. They are suppose to pledge to represent all americans no matter their race, religion, gender, not pledge to one person.

rocky-2318920

Liberal polls get liberal results WOW how surprising

Even Bullwinkle J. Moose knows the WSJ is hardly a liberal source.

When a liberal and conservative source get together the results are expected to be right up the middle. And this poll seems to have been more accurate than most.

Are we clear now?

Ha Ha! About as transparently clear - as Barack Obama, his corrupt administration and his mindless followers - qualify?

You can not spell Liberal - without - A Lie - Spelling 101

The Democrat Controlled Senate - has failed to present a single option to the House's two plans put forward to stop sequester

Suprised?

It appears this is just next in the line of crisis drummed up by liberals to make Oblahblah look competent. Anyone who can think for themselves can and will see through this disguise.

How is it when polling data is taken NBC/WSJ always has chosen liberal talking points to take to the polls? Like strickter gun laws (wow! criminals really care about this one). or how the article stated that the campaigning was over (somebody needs to tell Obama).

I really like the fact that was omitted, that the sequestered cuts were brought up and approved by Obama and the Democrats. Now Obama is on the campaign trail again with his scare tactics. Using the cut backs, that he approved, to say it is the fault of the Republicans in the House.

Careful Obama to Pinocchio role has already been filled.

Is there anything more bias/worse than a NBC/WSJ poll? Sorry liberals (NBC), you can continue to bash on Republicans all you want, but your fake polls wont change any Republicans mind. Maybe you should have taken a little hint from falling to 5TH among T.V stations recently (hahahahahaha how do you fall behind Telemundo... Hilarious?!?!?!?!) Stick to your bias NBC, it's obviously helping your ratings!!!!! :)

[I've come to expect these results from the layabout class and FR liberal posters. Give Feisty welfare feed it for life. For the Dictatorship of the Proletariat!]

Pearls of wisdom, Commodus...pearls of wisdom.

Uh oh, don't look now...seems that "lefty librul" Hagel has been confirmed.

One thing remains certain... The repugnicans are going to need more tools than just the ones posting on here in order to manufacture a "come-back"...

Where do those theoretically come from?... (crickets can't help either)

Marcus, you need to educate yourself. Budget Bills and revenue bills must originate in the HOR. If the house would stop passing crap, they would get something passed in the Senate.

tonybeeerm

Hey Jefferson, what got us out of the Great Depression of the 1930's? And why were we so prosperous during the 50's and 60's? You don't think the federal government had anything to do with that?

and the '80s and the '00's too! Federal spending goosing the economy at its best! But not now, no, "Owebama's reckless spending" is KILLING us! oh my, oh my.....

The left already has what they want, big cuts in the military. Even Obama's own Secretary of Defense is upset over the cuts. But the left doesn't want anyone to touch their precious handouts. I recall the left demanding cuts across the board, shared sacrifice was what their leader told us. The left must have very small boards since they keep dumbing down the liberals in the biggest blue state.

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_22599953/bob-huff-elimination-algebra-requirement-wrong-direction-california

Bob,

Yes those "fake lefty libtard" WALL STREET JOURNAL polls are crooked!

your fake polls wont change any Republicans mind

And I'm sure nothing will. The Pope himself could tell you the world is round and you wouldn't change YOUR mind, and you'd be proud to be steadfast.

1) This poll is by no means scientific or accurate. Anyone ever heard of "Push Polls". Ya, generally liberal leaning magazines will spin these pulls so the insecure democrats can once again be assured "They are on the right side of history."

2) This only shows that the President is a better liar.

What are they going to do next?

Let the government shut down, a-la-Newt?

Painted into a corner, now ready to shoot themselves in the foot.

Gotta love the modern GOP!

...and there are a lot of them that this this is all a good idea!

HAHAHAHAHHA! as Joe in Albany would say!

Ask the average person on the street about sequester, and the answer is "What's that?" They don't care. Neither does Obama. Why else would he be playing golf over the weekend with Tiger Woods when the sky's supposedly falling? Just another Obama opportunity to divide. He enjoys all this fighting. It takes everyone's focus off of his incompetence.

.......This will be day the GOP died......

Feisty: I hear the Gubment Brie is to die for! Gimme my Obama phone!

I sure hope the gop doesn't get a makeover.

They are already bad enough,and would only likely become worse. 1700's? 1600's? Shudder at the thought.

Perhaps they should stop preying and start praying? THAT'S a good start anyhow.

Gubment head cheese is ceasar's favorite.

Alaska Girl, is that your ObamaPhone ringing or mine?

JobSeeker

The left already has what they want, big cuts in the military. Even Obama's own Secretary of Defense is upset over the cuts. But the left doesn't want anyone to touch their precious handouts.

You call them handouts, people in need call them substance. Have you found a job yet?

Bobby Jindal said it best; the "Stupid Party!"

JobSeeker

GOP died when Eisenhower left office.

Democrats died when JFK the Tax Cutter was shot.

And now you're about to become extinct AGAIN!!

Hey, ProFreedom-5130956 (#1.36)

Despite the shortcomings of the gop .... We need a two party system; your socialistic obsession of creating a big government is too costly and takes away our freedoms.

I agree that we need a two-party system.

But your post shows that at least you haven't learned anything. Some rich folks brought on the recession, the poor have suffered more in declining income, job losses, and foreclosures. Why is this OK? Why is it OK for the rich to plunder the poor? Corporate socialism...is the only form of socialism that has existed in the US. Billions of dollars worth of subsidies go to the big oil that needs no handouts. Why?

But the effort to offer equal opportunities to all and to regulate the economy to avoid such recession is such an anathema to your right-wingers. When the poor are helped, when their purchasing power moves up, they will shop to make the rich even richer. Why is this socialism to you. Why social justice is socialism to you?

Research has demonstrated that wider income gap since Reagan has contributed to this highly charged polarized political environment. Why is it good to you?

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ProFreedom, you are not a pro, you are an amateur without credibility. You are not pro-freedom, you are pro-tyranny.

What i dont understand is with all the technolgoy we have why doesnt the President just video tape his message from DC instead of traavling around from city to city? Talk about unneeded spending its pretty crazy to be talking about sequester but just wastfuly spending money on all these trips. Its just mighty strange to me seems like Obama could be leading by example and cutting some spending. It would realy go along way to show us that he understands I mean he could easily get his messag across on the tv. It might be money from a differnt fund but it sure would set a great example if our President would lead by example and cut back on all these high priced tax payer funded trips around the country. Actions speak louder than any words.

The real problem is the complete lack of knowledge and awareness of the American People -

All aboard on the Cruise Ship Obamanation - living blind - until the power dies and the ship is a drift - with sewage filling the cabins and passageways

Barack Obama and the liberal media are presiding over the death of a once great nation - with their sheep in tow

Too stupid - to see and know what's happening right in front of them -

Wearing their many Bush Band-Aids - in an attempt to cover their failure - sad

You call them handouts, people in need call them substance.

@Mosh......You call it progressive, but you are just another liberal. You call it affirmative action, fair-minded people call it preferential treatment for people who can't compete. You call it Planned Parenthood, everyone else call it abortion mills. You call them undocumented workers, everyone else call them illegal aliens. You call it shared sacrifice, it is really don't touch my freebies.

And you are about to go extinct, AGAIN!!

You do know Obama barely got 51% in 2012 and lost 10% from his 2008 electoral votes, don't you? He just continues to slide. The midterms will be interesting.

All the sugar in the world could never help McNasty Redhead.

Don't you see lefties how ridiculous celebrating this bias poll. Only low information voters trust this poll, it is hillarous to read comment from the left like this poll can be trusted. Those people answer in the poll.

Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as (a Democrat, a Republican, an independent, or

something else? (IF "DEMOCRAT" OR "REPUBLICAN," ASK:) Would you call yourself a strong

(Democrat/Republican) or not a very strong (Democrat/Republican)? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "NOT

VERY STRONG DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN.") (IF "INDEPENDENT," ASK:) Do you think of yourself as

closer to the Republican Party, closer to the Democratic Party, or do you think of yourself as strictly

independent? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "STRICTLY INDEPENDENT.")

Strong Democrat ............................................... 22

Not very strong Democrat .................................. 12

Independent/lean Democrat .............................. 12

Strictly Independent ........................................... 14

Independent/lean Republican ............................ 14

Not very strong Republican ............................... 7

Strong Republican ............................................. 13

Other (VOL) ....................................................... 4

Not sure ........................................................... 2

Anyone notice the sudden silence on gun control? We said all along that it was just a token gesture by the left to please their base. Nothing happened after VA Tech. Nothing happened after Aurora. And nothing will happen after Sandy Hook.

The GOP doesn't need a makeover. They like themselves just the way they are.

pablum

I don't know of any silence on gun issues. Just heard some of the leaders discussing it this morning. The sequester is looming, so that is taking top priority at the moment. But, rest assured, the gun issue is not leaving the table, not by a long shot(pun most definitely intended).

[I have yet to see one person refute Joe, many have tried and been schooled in the process...so yeah it is HAHAHAHA]

That's quite the skewed take on reality you have there. You, my fuzzy little troll, are a putz.

You always manage to touch upon all the Fox talking points. What a sad little toad.

Close to punch out time huh...make sure your boss docks your "infrastructure" paycheck for all the time you cheated him out of today.

Wow! The light righties sure are mad since every poll shows how low their party has sunk in the minds of Americans. But, the ones on here are hanging onto their ignorance and hatred with their little fingernails.

Do you people like Marcus D, oskar, jobseeker, etc., realize just how pathetic you look with your lies and whining? Why don't you ever even RUN candidates that care about the country? Instead you run idiots like lyin Ryan and Romney then whine when everyone sees right through their bullsh*t! You've no one to blame but yourselves!

[I have yet to see one person refute Joe, many have tried and been schooled in the process...so yeah it is HAHAHAHA]

Mickey,

Are you talking about the @!$%# also known as the Albanian Idiot, who is suffering from severe mercury poisoning? lol

Have another helping of your river carp Joey, and then get back to us!

Pigotry

when the poor are helped?? I thought there where no hand outs?? Let me ask you a question, if you had no available money would you go on vacation?? No probably not, the US is short on money yet your glorious leader is traveling all over to spread his gloom and doom, WHY?? THE poll says most believe we need to cut back on spending but not Obama, he is above the rest of us right??Obama has increased the wages within the last few months for those in Washington, but is going to cut our SS and other things the people have paid for out or their pockets why again. Obama care is going to effect everyone not just the rich when we the people will have to pay for it, so much for the extra money for the poor.

Oskar,

Thats becuase ver few people identify themsevles as "strong Republican" anymore! Thats the whole point of the article! So, if 13% of the population identify themselves as "Strong Republicans" the poll is not fair becuase they are sampled more? Thats called oversampling! this is why so many "conservative" polls were dead wrong at the election. They said "Hey, 40% of those sampled identified as liberal, while only 32% were conservative!" They failed to identify that a fewer percentage of the american population identified with the Republican party!

@Alaska......Hate to disappoint you, but there is good reason why nothing ever gets done on gun control. Al Gore made it a centerpiece of his campaign and lost his home state where a win would have made him the 43rd POTUS. Senator Manchin would have lost last November if he didn't fire a 30-06 into a target in a campaign ad to show what a gun lover he was. And John Dingell, he would have lost Michigan long ago if he didn't have an A-plus rating with the NRA. See, the thing is half the NRA members a Democrat voters and that scares the hell out of the Democrats when it comes to re-election time. Oh yes, Obama didn't mention gun control untill he got re-elected. You think the Dems will let him throw them under the bus like he did with Blanche Lincoln and others who supported ObamaCare?

All spending and entitlements must be cut -- except those that benefit me.

oaker...time to troll on home dear. Don't forget your meds.

To the Republican leadership: Do not listen to the polls from a wacked out liberal NBC! This is like taking marriage advise from Donald Trump! Just remember that NBC would like nothing better than seeing the Republicans go into the scrap pile of political parties like the Whigs, or the Bull Moose Party! Stick to your beliefs and do what is best for this country and not a bunch of liberal morons who are drooling at the possibility of getting even more "tax revenue" and spending until it hurts!

I have no idea why so many people are down on Rebpublicans or down on Democrats. NONE of them are doing their job (there may be a few but they are a very small minority). They have been selling us down the road to their own interests for years.

Sequester, lol, that is very minor start at budget cutting that needs to be done. Obama seems like he wants total government control and is doing his best to dumpster the country. The republicans seem to be worried about votes and don't know what to do, and the democrats just follow along like lemmings off whatever cliff the POTUS is jumping off of today.

Meanwhile the press is not reporting news, just whatever politics they happen to be paid to agree with.

I wish there was some way we could stand up and change the way things are going but sadly the country is going to have to take a major hit before we wake up. I just hope it is not too major and we can recover from it.

JobSeeker, there's a difference this time. The people, by a majority, are in favor of the proposals that are already on the table. We aren't letting this go. I've already told my Democratic Senator(A rating with the NRA) that if he opposes any reasonable gun issues such as background checks, magazine restrictions, etc., I will not vote for him again, and I will make sure that all my lib friends won't as well. Americans have changed, and Sandy Hook was instrumental in that change.

Liberal polls get liberal results WOW how surprising

lol. yes, just like those 'liberal' polls up to and the night of the election. Let me guess - you were gobsmacked.

It ain't rocket science, the republicans are about to get hit with a heaping dose of blame. Don't say you weren't warned.

SeekingSanity

Wow! The light righties sure are mad since every poll shows how low their party has sunk in the minds of Americans. But, the ones on here are hanging onto their ignorance and hatred with their little fingernails.

Do you people like Marcus D, oskar, jobseeker, etc., realize just how pathetic you look with your lies and whining?

You like most left wing from this vine hate when someone prove how wrong you are. This poll is bias because most responders are Democrats , what kind of answer can you expect. However you can continue rubbing your hands if that make you feel better.

@Dan.....I wouldn't worry. The pendulum is constantly swinging. Just when one party appears to have everything locked up, it swings back the other way. Every generation wants to be different from their parents, and in a free society, they can do that. In the 60's, the hippie kids wanted to be as far away from Ozzie and Harriet as they could. Now, the kids look at their parents and say they really screwed things up. Self-gratification. They are all divorced, to hell wth the kids. $17 trillion in debt. Entitlements as far as the eye can see, all to be paid by them as their parents retire and collect freebies via the kid's taxes for the next 20 years.

I wonder if these liberals will be cheering their dear leader when the economy tanks and he is sending out the Homeland Security to round up conservatives and shoot them.. All those people crying and cheering for Hitler when his goons were rounding people up.. Silly heart and silly heads sometime soon we will all be dead..

Does anyone realize you do not actually own any property but rent it from the Government.. Stop paying your taxes and they will kick you off of it as they are the landlord and they like their rent money..

feisty --- the gnop is so screwed up that they are still trying to make obama a one term president.

In this particular case change/makeover would be a good thing.

Oksar

"You like most left wing from this vine hate when someone prove how wrong you are. This poll is bias because most responders are Democrats"

Funny, how about three posts prior to that, I countered your point and you ignored it. Seems like you are the one that hates it when someone proves you wrong.

Why is everyone in such a tizzy? Nothing is going to happen, it will be business as usual, there will be a last minute 'stop gap' measure to kick the can down the road a couple months. Republicans are not going to let the defense contractors and corporate welfare swing in the wind and Obama is not going to let education, Social Security, Medicare and the EPA take a hit.........But boy is this game of CHICKEN getting tiresome

Ellis, the only "corporate welfare" going on now are the direct payments going to liberal "green energy" companies and to companies like GM that have large union bases! The so-called "Corporate Welfare" that the liberals always scream about are usually tax breaks that let companies buy expensive equipment and write off their expenses faster. This creates immediate jobs and more tax revenue. The liberals always forget that they are the party of "giving everything away" and someone has to produce something to sell and then to be taxed! BTW, I live in Colorado and bankrupt Abound Solar is finally being called to the carpet because their closed factory is a huge pile of toxic waste and no one is coming to clean it up!

Marcus D-4300696

The Democrat Controlled Senate - has failed to present a single option to the House's two plans put forward to stop sequester Suprised?

C'mon marc are you really that fuc king ignorant or it it just an act for the cameras? the sequester avoidance committee was made up of 6 dem and 6 reps from BOTH the house and senate (12 each) and failed to agree on ANYTHING - summarily they kicked the can down the road. WELL, the road has come to an end and there's no more road.

I love the paranoid delusional mindset of the right wing who know that scientifically conducted polls, even ones conducted by Rupert Murdoch owned Wall St Journal can't be true because they know better. Their inability to face facts is amazing

Hi Ellis,

I don't think the GOP is for corporate welfare as much as the Democrats are, but I do think the GOP wants to protect defense far more than Democrats do. As for the rest, SS and Medicare are specifically EXEMPTED from sequestration, so Mr. Obama doesn't have to worry about those programs being cut anyhow.

I would like the GOP to stop playing the Democrat game. Our elected GOP officials should apologize to the nation for having been complicit, to whatever extent, in the growth of the federal government far beyond the limited scope envisioned by the Constitution, and then pledge to stop all growth of the federal government going forward. If voters want to continue to steal from future generations in order to live beyond our means today, then Republicans should be willing to lose in the next election so thaty voters can ruin America without GOP help. My bet is that far more people are prepared to accept a return to constitutionalism than want evolving socialism. If I'm wrong, then the nation is already lost.

Imagine this...This president has said that the federal government could be made to run far more efficiently. This president proposed the sequester, and now lies about it being forced upon him by the GOP. The cuts in the sequester would only cut planned INCREASES in federal spending, but would not in any way cut actual spending. And our federal government, we are led to believe, is unable to cut ANYTHING from its budget, else nothing but clamity will befall us? If these things are true and we continue to support this president in this cause, then we are pathetic and deserve the failure coming our way. If they are not true, then explain what isn't true and why.

Rich-281385

I would like the GOP to stop playing the Democrat game. Our elected GOP officials should apologize to the nation for having been complicit, to whatever extent, in the growth of the federal government far beyond the limited scope envisioned by the Constitution, and then pledge to stop all growth of the federal government going forward.

They should, but they won't.

And they will continue to do as they have for the last 12 years and continue to vote to expand the government. And they will continue to do as they have for the last 4 years and claim to be against any expansion of it.

Hey JoeF,

I think you are a little harsh, but I get the point. While I am conservative my bet is that most scientific polls are very accurate. For me the accuracy of the poll isn't the issue unless we can show the sample is skewed improperly, or show that the questions are push-pull instead of fair. I doubt the WSJ engaged in any of that in this poll. So let's--you and me anyhow--get passed that part.

My issue is that poll respondents give answers based upon what they are told, over time, in the context of the initial biases. What I mean is that when you have such a complict and compliant MSM for the president it is anything but a surprise to me that a poll might favor the president over the GOP on this, or any similarly reported issue.

You might dispute my claim. But look at most any issue and it follows the same pattern. Business in the USA is routinely bashed in the MSM, and so support for business among those polled is lower now than in the past. And while any individual instance is just anecdotal, the collective observations of each issue reveal, like clockwork, the same pattern. We bash over time, say, tobacco, and so polled responses about tobacco show most people dislike it. We bash over time, say, oil companies, and oil companies have a very low approval rating from the American people. The fact that these same companies earn a far lower profit than Apple, which has a high approval rating, is due to media presentation as opposed to reality.

So the president has possibly the most docile media coverage in recorded American history, and anyone would be surprised that his numbers would remain higher than his adversaries? Not this American. But then again I am capable of critical thought.

Relax folks, nothing is going to happen, business as usual, the children just want some attention, trust me, there will be a last minute stop gap measure to kick the can down the road. Republicans will not let Defense contractors, military bases and corporate welfare to take a hit and Obama will not stand for cuts to education, the EPA or health-care reform.

Is it not sad some do not believe a few hundred million dollars is enough to support a comfortable lifestyle yet think $7.25 is too much for an hour of manual labor ?

Of course the GOP needs a make-over. More like a major overhaul. But it can only come from them... and I don't see much evidence that Republicans see the need for change. They think it's all about repackaging their message.

It's like the old joke, How many psychologists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Answer: It doesn't matter...it has to want to change.

Hey Ellis,

Twice now you've made the assertion that Republicans favor corporate welfare while implying by the absence of the same charge against Democrats that they don't. I think you are wildly wrong on this charge. The GM bailout is just one massive example. But there are also subsidies for energy firms, high tech firms, colleges and universities, just to name a few. But the largest way corporate welfare is distributed by the government hasn't got anything to do with direct payments...it's regulation. Small firms are often unable to handle the compliance costs that would get them into the government contracting business. I think the evidence that exists shows that Democrats are far more corporate welfare-friendly than Republicans. Which isn't meant to excuse Republicans for their own actions.

As far as your income comparison I think I go at it differently too. How much you make isn't any of my business unless I am forced to pay your compensation. I believe in economic liberty. I wish you did as well.

A: "All very convincing arguments... I've changed my mind."

Q: What are things you never see/read on web forums?

JobSeeker

You do know Obama barely got 51% in 2012 and lost 10% from his 2008 electoral votes, don't you? He just continues to slide. The midterms will be interesting.

#1.76 - Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:07 PM CST

Ahh, yeah, and I "do know" President Obama was elected twice to President of the United States. Your first pick McCain/Palin loss, your second pick, Romney/Ryan loss. That leaves you a little bitter doesn't it?

Have you found a job yet? I remember you once challenged me to some type of foolish job record. What was your response to my credentials?

I would like to know where Nancy Pelosi fits in .. she has not said a word in defense of the president and has not taken on Boehner the way he took her on .. when she was speaker Boehner and Cantor criticised her every day and on the week ends they went on TV and called her every name fit for public TV .. come on Nancy start fighting

@ timewonttell

So you want Pelosi to belittle herself, and act an ass like Boehner and his crew for what reason? Maybe she has more class than those idiots you mentioned. You know it's not always necessary to fight fire with fire, and if I had to guess, she's sitting back laughing at how these two idiots are making complete fools of themselves and the "Stupid Party."

Rich,

Farmers being paid not to grow crops and government subsidizing dairies to keep milk and cheese prices low, is corporate welfare by any definition, not to mention big oil subsidies. But I do agree democrats are guilty as well..........However, you totally missed the point I was trying to make, that it would neither benefit Boehner or Obama's cause to let the pending cuts take place, and I do not believe they will.

And as a retired long time business owner I do believe in economic liberty, but I also believe it is a business owners obligation to pay the help that builds their business a livable wage. If you cannot do that and grow your business you are not a very good businessman.......just my opinion

It is a interesting poll to sort through. And I agree the republican party needs a make over. However to be fair there is absolutely no doubt all of Washington which includes Obama, Democrats and Republicans need a complete make over. All of these clowns need to be booted from office. I get tired of Obama and democrats that think they do not have a spending a problem and a problem with Republicans that act like they just figured our how to save money. Both sides got us in this fix and both sides should work on getting us out. However both sides including Obama have done nothing at all to further that process. The democrats talk about making cuts that go in effect in 2015 and 2020. That is a a bad lie or a bad joke on their part. The Republicans act like the tax code is just fine. They be stupid too. Take away all loop holes. Flatten the code and balance the budget. I really cannot beleive they cannot find 2.5% savings anywhwere with all the waste on both sides of the aisle. They all have time to appear for their sides on all the talk shows but not enough time to do the right thing.

I could care less what party you support. Why don't you try telling your representative they need to do what is right for the entire country not just a section of it. If you think your party on either side of the aisle is so great you must be suffering from a lack of brain cells. @moshululuu this also include nacy Pelosi. You guys spend so much time defending your party like they give a rats butt about you. Its all of them laughing at you and calling you idiots because they have succeeded at dividinge and conquering.

President Obama has always had the "edge". The republican pukes are just now figuring it out.

The GOP needs a what? a Make over? If the GOP was a house it would not be suffering from chipping paint or lose shingles. The diagnoses would be more like a cracked Ridge plate, mold, termite damage and a crumbling foundation with 5 feet of water in the basement. They needed a poll to tell them that the GOP is Broken? America told them that for two major elections, plus the two they had to cheat to win.

Cheating in a national election can work if it's a close race, just like they did in Florida in 2000. But you can't cheat it when the votes are that overwhelming. This is the only lesson the GOP has figured out.

You Can't fix the GOP unless you get rid of the materials that are damaged. We are talking full tear down renovation here. The moral equivalent of starting over. the democratic party was once almost as bad, they had to wait for the old guys to die, before the young ones could rebuild. The dixiecrats had to be gone for us to have a real party. For the republicans to have a real party, the fringe that runs it, has to retire or die off of old age. fortunately for them, that's not too far away. Unless of course they get stuck on the Idea that people like Palin and that guy who sang "cat scratch fever" (Ted Nugent) are the answer. they are not the answer, they are the problem.

lol A poll of 100 people makes an NBC headline? At some point you can't help but laugh at this so-called news network. How's this for a poll headline?

POLLS SHOW THAT NBC NEEDS A MAKEOVER

Last place as most trusted news network (tied for last with comedy channel) http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/07/ppp_fox_news_poll_americans_viewing_habits_polarized_pbs_only_tv_source.html

Last place in Feb sweeps month http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/nbc-sweeps-ratings-lastloses-to-univision/

Hi Ellis,

You could be right about their motivations. But I think Mr. Obama wants the cuts to go through so he has yet one more straw man argument to make about why this economy under his 5th year as president remains so moribund. And I think Republicans want cuts (not nearly enough imo) and might see this as the only way to go about it. The poll results cut the other way as Republicans want to be elected in 2014 again, and so they will probably think that giving in will help then get votes. It won't.

As far as economic liberty...You can't claim to both support it AND to claim that you would impose on other free people your economic will. It's a guess, but I think that like most people you want to say liberty and freedom matter to you. It sounds right after all. But it's the outcomes you want more. I would eliminate entirely the minimum wage. People should work for whatever wages they are willing to work for so long as they are free to make the choice. When you impose costs because it suits your own will, in this case the minimum wage you think needs to increase, then for those products or services that people are not willing to buy at the higher resulting price demand falls, and so does the employment of the people doing the job.

So, wouldn't the proper counter argument to your claim simply be that you favor higher wages but turn a blind eye to the increasing unemployment? I guess a living wage is meaningless to the person without a job to work at, you know?

Feisty: "Tell us oh so wise right wing nuts, how does it feel to ALWAYS be on the wrong side of argument?"

Tell us, how does it feel to have your head up Obama's arse?

Feisty and Piggy are still the typical Libt**d trolls...and a NBC.WSJ poll? Two of the MOST liberal news outlets? Slow news day!

That kind of dialog is exactly WHY the GOP is in its death throws. They act as if they want to take the rest of the country with them.

Even at middle-age, for some reason I have a tendency to think of the Republican culture of hate and dishonesty in the context of a relatively recent phenomenon, as if some kind of 'change' took place within the party in just the past few years. But I was reminded a few nights ago (between 8:00 and 9:00 central time) that the same beliefs and practices have been prevalent among the (radical, anyway) right since at least the early 1950s, and the era of McCarthy. A conscious effort is required on my part to reform that context. I anxiously await the education that I lack about that.

Polls are only as good as the sampling of people pulled for them. Most polls pull a few thousand people so I can get any answer I want depending on where I pull the names from to poll. Also a few thousand does not come close to a true number when there are millions of people living and working in the US. King Fish is right slowing the increase in spending has some how became a cut in spending. Also Mr. Obama using the back drop of first responders and the like for his address's to the nation. Are getting a bit out of hand He bargained for the cuts he calls the end of the world now. He said the debt is not moral yet he gets tax increase and say pulling back 85 billion in spending out of a trillion dollar plus budget is not do able. How and when will we pay off the 16 trillion and rising debt?

Increasing tax's won't ever be enough if you took all the wealth from the top 100 billionaires you'll probably pull in a little over a trillion dollars. So now remember you took all their net worth. That covers maybe one yr of spending at current rates that does nothing for the 16 trillion borrowed for programs in place. If you make 50 k a yr why don't you have a couple 100 k cars in the drive and send you kids to Harvard or Yale while vacationing in France? Because you can't afford too oh don't get me wrong we all want to but the moneys not there. Yet some how we think the they (or someone else) is going to cover the massive debt we are racking up.

So after the money has be taken from all the rich folks look in the mirror because it's your turn at bat to help pay down the debt. The good news the system cant keep this up forever the bad news the crash is going to be far uglier then 08. The US dollar is tied into just about every country in the world while struggling to keep its value up and the faith people have in it. When that faith fails and it will when the world thinks or sees we can't pay ours debts. It's Game over we are at the moment the worlds reserve currency .

The 08 problem wasn't fixed it had a ton of money thrown at it while the only thing it did was bought us a little time. The ponzi scheme is showing cracks in the system they tried to patch it but you cant just keep throwing money at it. Money and currency are two different things I should say you cant keep printing currency to fix the problem. Currencies like the dollar have no foundation they are tied to other then the faith you have that when to take it to the store it will buy something. Or the faith someone has when they buy bonds or invest that currency in their 401 k. If inflation rises which it will now it takes 2 dollars to by what 1 dollar did . If something is scarce in general it holds more valve same with currency the more that is in circulation the less value it can have.

I see the red tramp and ms. piggy as usual with their pom poms flying on this page. Where were they the other day when their politicians are caught lying and dodging the tough issues... they hide. These polls are MSN twisted bunk and the American public with half a clue and an education understands this sequester was the Presidents idea, he should stand behind it and be a winner because it is what is right. The sequester is a winner and he could make points with it and instead he will after all said and done lose by demeaning it and denying his role in it. This isn't a cut, it is the cutoff of an increase in spending that was scheduled and they are still increasing about 4% in addition to the 14% in the past four years. What a bunch of big spenders, Obama is just crying now because he can't redistribute more wealth and raise more taxes on the middle class that he already has done and lied about. Nothing but a pack of liars in the whitehouse and all he does is talk @!$%# and you uneducated people believe it hook line and sinker. Thank God we only have three years and 10 months left of this Jessie Jackson Jr. twin. What is unbelievable is the gullability of 50% of the public and the left wing biased media being used and allowing themselves to be the whores of the politicians. They all have blood on their hands....

Just stand by and watch the extinction of the republican party due to their own arrogance.

@ Stop Funding...

I read through your post, twice, to see if I could find anything educational or useful in any way, and after a little work, I finally came up with this:

...the President...[is]...a winner...

Thanks.

The 'Sequester' Was A Brilliant Idea And Obama Should Be Proud Of It

Read more at http://www.businessinsider.com/the-sequester-was-a-good-idea-2013-2#ixzz2LMBSmlX0

First off, The Fiesty redhead profile comments on every article I have ever seen on NBC news. Obviously to myself she doesn't have a job nor has anything to do all day but troll NBC propaganda all day. I see why she loves Obama so much, she doesn't have to work. Second of all, this news article is nothing more than the liberal media slanting their politics in the direction that they want the public to believe again, and again, and again....

This would be the perfect time to launch a third major political party.

Perhaps just a simple platform of having political reform of the politicians and how they operate their revolving doors between oversight of an industry and then later quitting their political position to join this industry which essentially is just bribery by other methods not involving money could be made unlawful. Add to this the elimination of privateer Federal Reserve Bank and I believe you would have the beginnings of a Newer World Order; one based on fairness and the elimination of persecution of those who are not from the wealthy ruling class who are being played for fools, made to work harder for an ever lessening share of the profits, through the rather cheap methods of distraction, making a false sense of achieving nirvana through buying trinkets, playing one group against one another, etc.

I don't deny that some people should have more wealth; but when they want more political power greater than the power of any other individual regardless of class I draw the line.

We need to bring the ideas of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness once more to the forefront and stop those who are trying to turn us into a third world country with a very few individuals with great wealth and power while the majority are just made to suffer in sweatshops for extremely low pay.

@ Farty Redhead

Some might say that you have simply provided a pointless parable followed by some snappy anecdotes and flashy cliches. Others might say that you have made a few of the only relevant, substantial, or even actual points in favor of the conservative position that have ever been observed anywhere in the wild, let alone on this thread. In fact, these old eyes curiously perk up to the sudden and unexpected appearance of apparent points which our side might duly need to consider and then successfully counter to maintain undisputed preeminence. In even further fact, I would consider your post to be sufficiently adequate credentials that if you alone suddenly comprised 90% of the Republican Party, its credibility would have just as suddenly increased by about 89%. And if you were running for president, I would almost go and vote for you just because you are a tiny beacon of legitimate light bravely shining from the dank depths of an otherwise very dark abyss. Seriously, kudos to you. Now that we on the left actually have something besides hate-filled platitudes and vile mindless dribble slapping us in the face, we should get to work searching for the historically analogous, mathematically provable, or pragmatically pertinent reasons why your position should be amended, if those can be found.

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Getting rid of the rhetoric and political leanings... we should actually like the show...

No cuts are "good" cuts. No cuts are "easy" cuts. So, if you must, taking a raw percentage is as good as any. If anything, make them at as high a level you can to allow flexibility to those that actually know what their doing (i.e. NOT Congress). Let the cuts come in, take the hit, then concentrate on GROWTH for a change. Idiots.

GOP makeover? What a laugh. The GOP just wore a suicide pack, it went off, and they act like they need a little Botox.

No, the GOP currently is without a leader, without cohesion, and is splintered into too many pieces... pieces that are so far removed from each other that they cannot come together to mount anything logical. We're seeing "glimmers" of reasonableness at times, but nothing like a coming together or a desire for a real makeover.

Bush caused the original Tea Party (reckless spending, huge debt, and a collapsed economy)... The "lost our way" GOP then decided to pick up the movement to keep from losing power... The movement turned to hate when Rove and company fueled the fires of hate... the GOP "leaders" lost control and haven't recovered since.

So what would a "GOP makeover" look like? Major surgery. They're in ICU at the moment just trying to stabilize... "recovery" isn't possible yet.

Farty Redhead

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating
the wealthy out of prosperity.

True. We are far from either notion, however. 3.6% taxes on the rich means an extra $360 on a $100,000 project that has a healthy 10% ROI... far from "legislating out of prosperity". Providing the poor with sustenance and opportunity is far from "legislating into prosperity". Capitalism requires and creates losers and winners. It will fail, however, when winners have it all and the losers are the majority and have absolutely nothing. A strong middle class fuels our economy... and getting off your exaggerations will allow reasonable legislation to let that happen.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

True in the extremes. We are not anywhere near the extremes. What is also true is that the poor can easily survive to work another day on just a portion of the excesses of the rich. Again, we're talking increments... not extremes. Unless you're advocating letting the poor starve to death, were just talking about where the line is drawn for low level support... nothing more.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

If you don't like the general operations of the government, then I don't know what to tell you. But again, I would be the first to yell out your slogans if they were carried out in the extremes. But I will not now, since they are but exaggerations and rhetoric derived from Rove's "false drama" politics. Here are the FACTS that you must learn to live with: 1) The economy collapsed under Bush's watch, 2) Major economists and the "powers that be" determined that growth was the answer to both our recovery and debt and that austerity would put us in a "death spiral", and 3) spending has been focused at keeping our people and economy ALIVE... not on the "give-away" you imply.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

And as the government should not divide, it should not promote wealth concentration. If you listen closely, Obama is trying to undo the wealth concentrating laws PUT IN PLACE BY GOVERNMENT. So it seems rather foolish to scream about government's role in "dividing" when legislators decided how it would be divided in the first place. "Tweaking" our tax system is far from "dividing". Incrementally supporting the unfortunate as we recover temporarily with taxes that used to be "normal" is far from "dividing".

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

If it were true. What you just said is identical to Romney's 47% statement... maybe worse. Statements like these come from extreme prejudice and profiling... and pretends to know the feelings and motives of the unfortunate. It underestimates the will of the fallen and overestimates the skills and qualities of the fortunate. It removes faith in PEOPLE. To line up with that statement is to give up on American notions altogether... and it is an insult to us all.

The Republican Party needs to do the following:

1) Wake up to the fact that the 1950's are over. We are in the 21st century. The US is no longer majority white, majority male. The US is getting browner. Deal with it. Women are a force to be reckoned with. Deal with it.

2) Be inclusive, not exclusive. It's no longer viable to be a party for angry old white men

3) Become more centrist and more moderate. As long as the hard-right and the Tea Party are allowed to set the agenda, the party will continue to lose national elections. In fact, it will become extinct, and it will be their own doing if it does.

4) Select better candidates, both nationally and locally. Romney and Ryan were the best they could do? Todd Akin was the best they could do? Richard Mourdock was the best they could do? Lets not forget Michelle Bachmann, Joe Walsh and Allen West. If people like these people are the best candidates the Republican Party can come up with, the party may be doomed any.

5) Get better leadership in Congress. Your stated goal was to make sure President Obama was a one-term president. How did that plan work out? Speaker Boehner is weak and is willing to be lead around by the nose by his caucus. Eric Cantor wants Boehner's position so badly he can taste it, and will doing anything and everything to make himself look good and Boehner look bad.

6) Quit relying on such people as Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly or Fox News (an oxymoron if ever there was one) for factual information. They are niche marketers and that's all they are. Their appeal is to the lowest common denominator. As long as people like these are allowed to define the Republican brand, Republicans will be seen as a bunch of ignorant fools.

A Democrat heavy sample, conducted by a Democratic pollster pretty much sums up the results.

I say let the Prez have his way and lets see where that leads OUR Country. The Republicans need to EDUCATE individuals on what happens if the spending continues. This is a very dangerous road we're on but people just don't care. With gas and food prices on the rise the economy will hurt, what's the first thing you cut back on, entertainment! so this large industry is the first to layoff and then businesses close up, the low income people don't feel it because they're down at their local Family Video store renting movies or at McDonald ordering off the value menu so it makes no difference to them unitl they have to go to the doctors because of all the fries they've eaten and now we have to pay for their heathcare, just friggin lovely!

Fabulous rebuttal LMarcT!!

You took the Farty boy to school along with the fictitious professor that wrote this bourgeois-coddling fable.

You also cannot get ahead with some rich dude's boot on the back of your neck.

Time to tell the wealth to get jobs and actually work for a living.

There is that certain class of people with an entitlement attitude that no matter how many government tax breaks you give them, no matter how many government programs they get on, no matter how much money and free stuff you give them these people will never get off their a$$es and put in a real hard-earned day's work for a fair day's wage off the government dole in the real world.

We call these people Republicans.

BTW,

Double the size of the sequester and then implement THAT!!

Charlie,

U do realize that the U.S. is no longer a country to be reckoned with, I wonder why?

But you're o.k. with that, right?

Rick its people like you that refuse to see the facts in front of you. During the election, those on the right kept complaining about the polls all being so incorrect, the only polls that were incorrect were those from the right. Now once again a poll is out and here you are not facing the facts. You probably think that Romney won the election and that blue is red and green is white. Its republicans like you that are holding your party back. Science is real, wake up and join the 21 century you just might find you like it.

WeWillNever.....

.....and what party made it that way?

This country was doing fine (before 1980). Then the Pubbies seized power.......

You would think Repubs would be getting tired of looking Stupid, this party is not for the American people !!!

@ LMarcT

The Republican Party needs to put so much distance between what it should be and what it has let a few radical propagandists define it as, that an argument could be made to include a name change with the overhaul. The obvious problem with that notion explains part of the reason these radicals infiltrated the Republican Party and destroyed its credibility to begin with - name recognition, in terms of the party itself and some of its more credentialed members (to whom big promises were made, and who may now regret it).

In fact, some of the most radical religioneers might have even required remuneration to ransack the Republican Party instead of starting a whole new party, and naming it something like "Gods Army of People Infiltrating the Next Generation" (GAPING) or "Biblical Usurpers Teaching Theology to the Most Unbalanced in a New Chapter of History Everywhere Reason Sleeps".

The Republicans should just stick to two simple messages and keep repeating them;

1 - The skyrocketing Debt will be devastating to the future of our children.

2 - The massive increases in the money supply to fund the Deficits will result in massive Inflation, high Interest Rates, and more Unemployment.

These are simple messages that even the 'low information voters' will understand, and there is no doubt that we will have to deal with these problems in the near future.

Obama's own 2013 Budget projections show that the National Debt will increase from $9.986 Trillion at the end of fiscal 2008 to $20.392 Trillion at the end of 2016 (Obama's last year) - but President's budget projections are notoriously 'optimistic' - it will likely be closer to $25 Trillion in 2016. The Interest cost alone will be devastating.

The Chinese are no longer buying our Debt - in fact, they have quietly 'cashed in' about $200 Billion of their loans to us over the last year (they know inflation is coming), and the Federal Reserve has had to replace that money by effectively 'printing new money' - along with about $1 Trillion in new money to finance the Deficit. The money supply (M1) has increased from about $1.4 Trillion in 2009 to about $2.5 Trillion now. Every responsible economist will tell you that this is highly "INFLATIONARY" - ala the 14% Inflation and 18% Interest Rates under Jimmy Carter in 1980.

Even the far-left Liberal outlet The Huffington Post recognized this;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sheldon-filger/federal-reserve-begins-ma_b_677483.html

Since the sequester cuts amount to less than 2% of the spending for 2013, does ANYONE seriously think that there is not 2% of fat that could not be cut from bloated federal spending? Especially since spending is more than $600 Billion higher than in 2008 (+21%)?

Besides, because this is just a cut from the 'baseline' INCREASE in spending, it's not really a CUT, because the actual spending will still increase.

Obama should get the Best Actor Oscar for his role in "The Sky is Falling".

#1.139

Using historical analysis [3], mathematical provability [1], and pragmatic pertinence [all], the voice of reason has maintained the left's undisputed preeminence, once again leaving the right with hate-filled platitudes and vile mindless dribble as their most effective tools.

M54, #1.46- EXCELLENT!!! Especially the conclusion! That SHOULD be stronger and more indicative than ANY Poll. Really it's just Romney's "47%-that-don't-count-because-they-don't-deserve-to-exist" pronouncement, PERSONIFIED. (and well before Romney brought it to a resounding culmination in expressing that continued exact sentiment for them, undeniably as THEIR REPRESENTATIVE of what "THEY" STAND FOR!) Monetary "discriminatory class profiling for stigmatization and punishment" of the American People for having the audacity to need FOOD? and Medical care?????

Hey feisty and pig! Get a life!!!

How about the Obama, Cloward - Piven agenda? Freaking, Socialist pigs. It will catch up to you Lefty Loons soon.

Obama is NOT a "socialist." Cut out the hyperbolic crap. It's this kind of stuff that is turning the public away from the GOP message.

Since the sequester cuts amount to less than 2% of the spending for 2013, does ANYONE seriously think that there is not 2% of fat that could not be cut from bloated federal spending? Especially since spending is more than $600 Billion higher than in 2008 (+21%)?

I keep seeing this point, but it's very misleading. The sequester doesn't touch Social Security, mandatory spending, debt interest payments, and a few other items, so although it's only 2% of the TOTAL budget, the cuts can only occur from less than half of the total budget. It's right there in the language of the bill, it cuts 8.5-9.6% (I believe, I don't feel like double checking right now) from EVERY agency that is being effected by it. That's far more than 2%.

In addition, there are items in every budget that CANNOT be cut. For example, the military cannot order 90% of a submarine. Since they cannot take money out of this expenditure, they will have to make up for the cuts elsewhere. This is why they are talking about furloughing employees for 1 day a week for an effective 20% paycut. The same can be said for many other agencies. This is not scare mongering, it's the very real effect that the sequester will have.

And if you don't think it'll ripple through the economy as a whole, increase unemployment, shrink GDP, and risk a double dip recession, you're not paying attention and listening to economists.

Yes, if deficit reduction is the goal, spending cuts will need to be made (there is some argument however regarding whether deficit reduction is a nobel goal in the midst of a recession, but that's a separate issue from the sequester), but a compromise deal should be reached that allows for more targeted cuts (rather than across the board) and if possible, an increase in revenue. Although we know the GOP will NEVER in a million years agree to any tax hikes that effect the top 1-2%, if they're middle class tax hikes however, they'll go along gleefully.

Arizonatime

How about the Obama, Cloward - Piven agenda? Freaking, Socialist pigs. It will catch up to you Lefty Loons soon.

Would you like something with that tea? Clearly your family's coat of arms tied in the back. See, we can both make off the wall, insulting comments butit won't keep the Republican party alive. You've pissed everyone off but old angry white men...and they are not getting any younger. Your younger Republican Leaders are who were elected as governors are beginning to peel off from the party faithful. All you had was loyalty to each other but your attacks on your own insure you don't even have that. As a party you are toast...and you don't recognize it.

calling names and bad mouthing,(feisty redhead,pigotry, seaskip star sailing...., and your merry band of people who hate anything or anyone right of center), IS NOT A MEANS OF PERSUASION....instead you are reenforcing why this country needs to remain equally balanced....you use totalitarian bullying and harmful words because that is how low life you are...

it also suggest you are extremely uneducated.

German citizens came to hate their Conservatives for having led them into the disastrous World War I, and the only way that Adolf Hitler could build his conservative party was to fool German citizens, by calling it the National "Socialist" Party, to drain votes from German communist and real German socialist political parties.Germans were fed up with Conservatives because of the war loss.

It worked for Hitler, who had the backing of the conservative German General Staff......,this deceit also fooled conservative German citizens, who,apparently loved the flags,the drums and trumpets,but who failed to read his position papers...they also loved Hitlers blaming of Jews as the real cause of Germanys defeat in World War II,even though it was evident that General Staff blunders caused their defeat.

German Conservatives, the Nazis proclaimed their love of the party by wearing flag - lapel buttons...today American politicians feel forced to wear American flag lapel buttons, even though we know they are all Americans....whats it prove, you are MORE patriotic ?

American voters became fed up with the two wars started by American Conservatives (Iraq and Afghanistan), as well as by the economic melt-down created by George W. Bush....it's no wonder then, that the Republicans have fragmented into two parties, the Tea Party nut cakes, and the "moderate" Republican Party, many members of which would like to disavow them selves of the Tea Party crowd,which is an embarrassment to the right.

Interestingly, the actual American Revolution was NOT the popular uprising which Americans believe occurred,..rather it was our 1st Civil War...more Americans joined the English Army to keep the King in control, than joined Washingtons Army....it was a struggle in 1775 between American Conservatives who wanted to remain as a colony,and American Liberals who wanted to break away from England...the REAL Boston Tea Party,was conducted by the Sons of Liberty,which was a Liberal group...one of the raiders was Paul Revere.

Hundreds of thousands of American Conservatives, back when the Revolution ended,fled to London,Canada or to Carribbean Islands..this included the only son of Benjamin Franklin, William Franklin who moved to London. Today,in Canada, approx 20% of Canadian citizens have descendants in their family tree,of American conservatives who hated the Revolutionary Tea Party folks,and who moved to Canada during or after the Revolutionary war.

Ironic, that the current usage of the Tea Party name, has been stolen, just like Hitler stole the "Socialist" name...ironic too, is the fact that so many Republicans are unaware of their own history.

I say let the Prez have his way and lets see where that leads OUR Country. The Republicans need to EDUCATE individuals on what happens if the spending continues.

Well, maybe...

See, the Republicans have already educated American voters as to what happens when conservatives get their way. It wasn't pretty!

NBC and WSJ take a poll? That's like asking Hitler what happened to the Jews during the Holocaust. You know in advance that you will get lie after lie.

They probably gave out free cell phones and kool aid to the respondents.

And the white-house-run-liberal-media keeps spewing the lie that the sequester is a Republican idea when it actually came from the white house and O-bow-to-me threatened to veto any legislation to change it. The brain-dead liberals need to watch those video clips...oh, wait...they are only on Fox News; another example of the state-run media in the tank for the divider-in-chief.

Another reason why, I too, am now ashamed of my country.

"It's hard to put your hand over your heart when it's extended waiting for a handout." - veteran55

Sorry-azz site posted twice.

It was the North Koreans.

Did anybody happen to read this was a democratic Poll? What do you expect.

@pigotry 1.71 -

Over the last four years I've learned plenty- you can't fix your bank account by spending more money you don't have. Sounds simplistic perhaps, but at least I get it. Your party doesn't get it and has demonstrated it well.

The idea of big government is very disturbing coming from your side since, it seems, libs want someone 'taking care of them'. You call me 'pro-tyrrany' which is a cheap shot, but in your case, I would say you're 'pro-socialism'. It can be nothing else! It's the easy/hard way out and it abdicates responsibility away to another party to handle the aspects of life you don't want to handle yourself.

While it's easier to stick your hand out for 'free' assistance it's also hard to accept that you have people telling you how much sugary soda you're allowed to drink, what guns you may purchase, and the list goes on. That is not what our country was built upon except your party seems intent on destroying it at the core in favor of this 'utopian ideal' that exists only in fantasy. If that's not 'tyrranical' then I don't know what is!

And your credibility exists how? The only mission you have is to attempt to discredit anyone who differs with your narrow views and start name-calling, which is sophomoric. But this is what we, who don't consider ourselves connected to any mainstream party, have come to expect from you 'first responders' on here. And you want to gain a partisan buy-in how? As long as you polarize your agendas with hatred you'll never get posters like me to take your side seriously and we'll be back here slinging our own zingers right back at ya!

LMarkt, you about as bright as a cockroach. Your EXACTLY what's wrong with this country, your completely brainwashed into thinking that spending money you don't have is acceptable over long periods of time. Just try doing that in your own life and see how that works for you. sell stupid elsewhere, were quite full up on here already.

Researchers at the institute for Advanced Studies in the Hazards of Understanding Republican Nonsense have just identified three main characteristics unique to conservative mathematics, leading them to the discovery that this bazaar new form of math is actually derived through an extrapolation from the Book of Revelations. After exhaustive research and analysis, the three characteristics identified are that 1) it works even better without the use of the equal sign (=) required by all other forms of mathematics, 2) it can be interpreted to mean anything that you need for it to mean at any given time, and 3) it has the unique ability to accurately describe conservative reality even when it is used by a blind monkey scribbling gibberish with a crayon.

Just give the democrats, liberals and socialists in this country what they want. They did win the election after all. It had been proven throughout history that countries are built on conservative ideals and destroyed by liberal ideals. Rome anyone? If you liberals would drop the NY times and pick up a real history book you might understand all the comments that never seem to make a dent in your concrete brains like "those that forget the past are doomed to repeat it." Here's another good one for you to ignore like the others:

"The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
public debt should be reduced,
the arrogance of officialdom
should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands
should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work,
instead of living on public assistance."

Cicero 63 bc.

Again, those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

Hey ProFreedom,

I fear we have become the minority in our country. It's clear from election results over time that the Democratic Party is, almost to a person, our polar opposite. But it's just as true that the Republican Party has a great number--though probably not a majority yet--of people with a similar mindset to those very Democrats they oppose. Sure, they might support different kinds of spending, calling the views of their opposites "stupid" or "unwise", but they still favor extra-constitutional federal actions.

The sequester debate is just the latest in a long line of examples. President Obama claims that the smallest of cuts in the rate of GROWTH of the federal spending pie will result in a calamity that is nearly biblical in proportions. But isn't this what John Boehner did just the otehr day too? I prefer that we take the route of morality that Mr. Obama claimed he would. He said, before being president as a mere candidate, that Mr. Bush was IMMORAL for spending the money of future generations the way he had, but now Mr. Obama has doubled down on that immorality, and then doubled down again.

Let's bite the bullet now. Let's slash spending by returning the federal government to only those duties and powers given it by the Constitution. Limit Congress to Article 1, the President to Article 2, and so on. If we voters don't like the outcome then we have Article 6 as our solution. My bet is that our America will become far more prosperous, will generate greater wealth and happiness, and will provide a better future for our heirs, than anything our present "leadership" is pursuing today.

Did anybody happen to read this was a democratic Poll? What do you expect.

the Wall Street Journal is hardly a shill for Democratic causes.

In addition, if you look at the full poll, it has Obama's "approval rating" at 50% approve. Other polls have his approval rating as high as 55% (http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-approval-rating-poll-republicans-bloomberg-2013-2) so it would ACTUALLY suggest that the NBC/WSJ poll conducted here UNDERSAMPLED Democrats.

People need to learn about scientific polling. Just because this poll sampled more Democrats than Republicans does not mean that it slants democrat. It sampled more Democrats because there ARE currently more registered democrats than republicans, and you can look at registered voter rolls to confirm this. Because of this, any good poll will necessarily poll more D's than R's. Thinking this amounts to "oversampling" is what got the Romney internal pollsters in trouble when they conducted their own internal polling to show that Romney was going to WIN the 2012 election...

EEngineer,

Sounds like you support being told (by big brother) what to do.

As Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty, traditional American values and a strong national defense. Believe the role of government should be to provide people the freedom necessary to pursue their own goals. Conservative policies generally emphasize empowerment of the individual to solve problems.

I personally take responsibility for my own life and decisions and my goal in life is to become prosperous!

You have a problem with THAT?

As Conservatives believe in personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty,

Individual liberty? I cal bull@!$%#. Republicans are the party that is trying to limit the rights and choices of women. Don't fool yourself, you aren't fooling us. You only want your freedoms, don't give a toss about others.

DrowningGrover, #1.155- NICE POST!!! (and usher in your obvious attempt to actually use "Intelligence" as a perspective!:) IT'S REFRESHING! like a first sip of cool water out in the Desert, but just past the Mirage! In this case, that being to name "MISLEADING" as one of the many culprit-factors continuing to be "employed".

Continuing, somewhat, from my post above, I have to wonder if the Prez ever spent much or any time playing Chess before taking up Golf. And I suspect NOT because, at the very least as a basis, 1) you have to know that there is a difference between "Strategy" and "Tactic". Strategy has regard and Tactic does not. 2) you have to have the ability to think 3 moves ahead AND 3) you have to "know" when and if you've got your opponent "in check" (BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO POINT IT OUT AND TELL YOU!)

Instead, they're just going to come back with "naany-naany-boo-boo, YOU GOT Y"OUR" INEFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE, now make your next move!" How does he continue to not see and NOT KNOW, at this/that point that his Opponents calculate every move for at least 3 moves ahead?!

Mystery Rhee " Really it's just Romney's "47%-that-don't-count-because-they-don't-deserve-to-exist" pronouncement, PERSONIFIED."

Actually, what Romney REALLY said is that he didn't expect to get most of the 47% that depend on government welfare because Obama promises more benefits than we can afford.

In that regard he was completely accurate.

According to the NY Times exit polls, Obama won the income group that includes welfare recipients by a net margin of 12.9 million votes, while Romney won the other 75% of voters (the ones that pay the income taxes to support welfare) by a net margin of 8 million votes.

The net effect was that Obama won by the 4.9 million vote difference.

The Obama campaign rhetoric that 'Romney will take away your food stamps' was a very powerful message to those getting public assistance, even if it was not really true. 'Chicago-Style' politics in action - using taxpayer funds to get reelected.

By the way - Welfare cost the taxpayers about $735 Billion in 2012, which is almost 70% of the entire Deficit, but then who really cares?

Pro Freedom-5130956, #1.164- NICE POST!!!

BloodthirstySavage, #1.166- EXCELLENT!!! (and Hysterical!, too:)

knucklesamwich, #1.167- EXCELLENT! Thanks for providing something to actually ponder about!

Rich-281385, # 1.168- EXCELLENTLY very interesting!!!

DrowningGrover, #1.169- Didn't the Article also say that the actual "Pollster" who conducted the survey was Republican?

DrowningGrover "Yes, if deficit reduction is the goal, spending cuts will need to be made (there is some argument however regarding whether deficit reduction is a nobel goal in the midst of a recession,"

So when do the 'cuts' begin?

In Bush's last 4 years (2005-2008), total federal spending was $10.338 Trillion.

In Obama's first 4 years (2009-2012), total federal spending was $14.115 Trillion, an increase of $3.277 Trillion (+30%).

That extra $3.277 Trillion doesn't seem to have 'stimulated' the economy much. Perhaps the REAL problem with the economy/jobs is the anti-business regulations passed by Obama.

liam-1161783 "American voters became fed up with the two wars started by American Conservatives"

Isn't it interesting that more than 96% of the 600,000+ American war deaths over the last 100 years were under DEMOCRATIC Presidents, even though both Parties controlled the Presidency about equally?

Gee, I wonder if maybe Republican Presidents are just much better at PREVENTING wars with a realistic foreign policy?

OMG!, Roy Wilson-336103, #1.173- It's been years since you and I have actually exchanged thoughts on these comment boards! (If you're the same Roy Wilson that I'm assuming you to be).

I don't have the exact quote at my fingertips right now but I could (time-consumingly) go back and find it and still might. I won't go a lot further in this reply without it, except to say that I believe that he had wrongfully crossed a line, at that time when he made that statement, because it was in no way directed at "Policy", but was instead aimed and directed AT "the Individual". (and that it could not have been MORE DIRECT). He didn't say they thought themselves "entitled" to an automobile or a large screen TV, He said that They, as People, were in the wrong for thinking themselves to be entitled to such HUMAN RIGHTS as Food, Housing, Medical Care, etc. "Effectively" stating FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY that almost 1/2 of the entire Country were Peons, not entitled to even be thinking about or concerned with acquiring some of the very basics of HUMAN RIGHTS, never mind actually acquiring them, if they had.

ProFreedom-5130956

Over the last four years I've learned plenty- you can't fix your bank account by spending more money you don't have. Sounds simplistic perhaps, but at least I get it. Your party doesn't get it and has demonstrated it well.

Many of us have learned another lesson...your bank account means nothing without a job. The Republicans were elected in 2010 with the promise they would concentrate on Jobs...jobs...jobs. Where are they and what have the republicans done to develop the economy? Cutting government jobs only reduces the number of Taxpayers and damages consumer demand. How does that grow the economy?

Marcus D, (#1.24) “We all know it was a Spend Crazy Democrat Controlled Congress of 2007-2008 - that torched the robust economy we were experiencing”

No, actually Marcus, those of us who aren’t woefully misinformed, right wing, head in the sand idealogs know that your statement is totally false.

Those of us who can actually read and look at the history of the last 30 years know that deregulation, speculation and egregious concentration of wealth are what torched the economy.

The “robust economy” that you are referring to was another get-rich-quick bubble. Not the steady growth of the middle class that brings real economic growth and stability.

ROY WILSON-336103

Gee, I wonder if maybe Republican Presidents are just much better at PREVENTING wars with a realistic foreign policy?

Invading Iraq was a realistic foreign policy?

Filthy Feisty works for NBC and always gets the first comment.......terrible.

Lib50,

Republicans are the party that is trying to limit the rights and choices of women,

If you're referring to the abortion issue, I believe that would fall under traditional values, now if families would raise their sons to respect women, and when a woman says no, that's exactly what it means NO, Hands Off, would this then be a issue? Society itself has gone so far off morals and values that it's a no wonder why we're dealing with these and other issues.

But you stated issues(plural) so what's the other issues and please let's have a conversation without the cursing, it just shows your ignorance.

JCB-1236504

LMarkt, you about as bright as a cockroach. Your EXACTLY what's wrong with this country, your completely brainwashed into thinking that spending money you don't have is acceptable over long periods of time. Just try doing that in your own life and see how that works for you. sell stupid elsewhere, were quite full up on here already.

Let's see... how to respond to this without getting canned by Newsvine...

JCB, your brilliance is unbounded... on the low end.

Where on earth did I say I advocated CONTINUED spending? Never. In fact, I don't. The time for spending to jump-start the economy was over long ago. It was done and it did it's job, but there's really not much that can be done with the negativity being leveled by the right. Consumer confidence is low and will remain low as long as the GOP continues with it's quest of dysfunction and false drama.

Take Roy Wilson's post as an example. He stated:

The Republicans should just stick to two simple messages and keep repeating them;

1 - The skyrocketing Debt will be devastating to the future of our children.

2 - The massive increases in the money supply to fund the Deficits will result in massive Inflation, high Interest Rates, and more Unemployment.

These are simple messages that even the 'low information voters' will understand, and there is no doubt that we will have to deal with these problems in the near future.

as though it's the total answer and that Republican slash-cut policy will cure it all! It won't.

Yes, continued skyrocketing debt will ruin this country... but how do you reduce debt? Through austerity? Or through strong growth? Math supported by top economists say GROWTH is the FIRST answer. To cut while the economy is down is the very worst things you could do.

But Roy is right... low information voters will eat his arguments whole... just like you did.

Ol_doc @1.178-

Yeah, got screwed on that deal. Too bad the dems can't uphold their promises either eh?

manno-7707347

Filthy Feisty works for NBC and always gets the first comment.......terrible.

Actually, if one cared enough about the conversation to be first, one could write a script to alert one when an article first gets published. She apparently does and did. You're notion that she works for NBC has no basis in fact.

Mystery Rhee "OMG!, Roy Wilson-336103, #1.173- It's been years since you and I have actually exchanged thoughts on these comment boards! (If you're the same Roy Wilson that I'm assuming you to be)......I don't have the exact quote at my fingertips right now but I could (time-consumingly) go back and find it"

I'll save you the trouble - here it is;

“There are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That, that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what … These are people who pay no income tax."

Now you can 'spin' it all you wish, but to me he was saying that the 'welfare' voters will vote for Obama because he gives them 'free' government handouts.

PS - Unfortunately for Romney, it was characterized by the media as 'heartless', but the fact remains that those on welfare DID vote for Obama in overwhelming numbers, while those that pay income taxes to support those on welfare voted for Romney.

According to the NY Times exit polls, 31.7 million voters in the low income demographic group that includes welfare recipients voted for Obama 22.3 million vs only 9.4 million for Romney, for a net margin of 12.9 million votes for Obama.

The other 95.1 million voters (most of whom pay income taxes to support those on welfare) voted 51.6 million for Romney vs 43.5 million for Obama. Romney's 8 million vote net margin in this group was overwhelmed by the 'welfare vote' for Obama.

Ol_Doc "ROY WILSON-336103 Invading Iraq was a realistic foreign policy?"

Iraq accounted for less than 1% of the 600,000+ American war deaths in the last 100 years.

LMarcT "Yes, continued skyrocketing debt will ruin this country... but how do you reduce debt? Through austerity? Or through strong growth? Math supported by top economists say GROWTH is the FIRST answer. To cut while the economy is down is the very worst things you could do."

Well, we've tried the 'spend ourselves to prosperity' approach for the last 4 years, and all we have from it is another $6 Trillion of debt. The National Debt was $10.6 Trillion when Obama took office, and is $16.6 Trillion now, and he projects it to be $20.3 Trillion in 2016 (optimistically).

Perhaps it's time to try something new - like encouraging businesses instead of punishing them with tens of thousands of pages of new regulations and mandates and moratoriums and restrictions and tax increases.

LMarcT "as though it's the total answer and that Republican slash-cut policy will cure it all! It won't."

On that we can agree. We need both spending cuts AND tax increases (on everyone) to get back on a proper fiscal basis, but what we have now is a twofold problem;

Obama insists on more taxes and no spending cuts.

The Republicans have already agreed to $600 Billion in new taxes (on the rich), and are now insisting on spending cuts.

And 'never the twain shall meet'. Both sides are acting like First Graders with their "It's their fault" blame gamesmanship, and in the meantime nothing gets done.

I'm sure you disagree, but I place most of the blame on Obama for his focus on 'campaigning' and 'class warfare/divide and conquer' rhetoric, instead of acting like a leader, but then he's never really had any experience in anything but trying to demonize his opponents, so I guess real 'change' is difficult.

what's the other issues and please let's have a conversation without the cursing, it just shows your ignorance.

First of all, if you have such tender sensibilities, these forums might not be for you. The term describes exactly what I am talking about.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bull@!$%#

Society itself has gone so far off morals and values that it's a no wonder why we're dealing with these and other issues.

Whose morals are we talking about? The morality of wealth and power worship? Sex? Divorce? Cheating? My moral compass tells me that love and compassion are righteous. Forgiveness. Judge not lest ye be judged. People are more important than money. If your personal morality doesn't accept abortions (or contraception, divorce, whatever) then follow your beliefs. While I've never had an abortion, I would never force anther woman to carry a pregnancy to term. I don't believe it is a sin, everyone knows plenty of pregnancies don't make it to term, and my spiritual beliefs do NOT believe it is murder.

Meantime, republicans are trying to limit the rights of different groups of people like minorities, women and gays. These limits may not effect you personally, but they do many others. Of course all parents should teach their kids respect etc, but that is a fairy tale, it has never been the case that everyone does the right thing with themselves and their kids. I do, and I'm proud of my sons. Sorry I have to leave.

ROY WILSON-336103

Ol_Doc "ROY WILSON-336103 Invading Iraq was a realistic foreign policy?"

Iraq accounted for less than 1% of the 600,000+ American war deaths in the last 100 years.

Answer the question. Was invading a sovereign nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 and was not a clear and present danger the the United States of America a realistic foreign policy?

I have had to go so far down that I have forgotten my points but here goes.Knucles The main reason that Rome died was because the Government became an Oligarchy and shipped out too much work to their Provinces,ensuring that Roman citizens could not make a decent living. They then instituted Bread and Circuses to allay citizen anger.Upon finding that chronic unemployment meant that taxes were unable to be payed,they appointed leading citizen responsibility, meaning that those responsible had to ensure that regional taxes were payed. The Roman populace started to agree that Rome was not worth defending so when envious border nations started to invade the borders the defense of the people was neither adequate nor successful. There were more reasons such as compeating revolutions from generals but we are tending to repeat many of former Empires mistakes.

ProFreedom-5130956

Ol_doc @1.178-

Yeah, got screwed on that deal. Too bad the dems can't uphold their promises either eh?

Perhaps it's my age or perhaps it's your inability to express a coherent thought but I really don't understand your comment...at all. Someone want to help me out with what this person is referring to?

What deal did we get screwed on and what promise didn't the dems uphold? ...or are you merely a troll?

Lib50,

Much negativity in your post, perhaps you feel you're entitled to one who has wealth, where you mentioned Divorce, I Value Marriage, Cheating-Monogamy, I think you get it.

You mention that love and compassion are righteous except when it comes to an unborn child, right?

Then you stated everyone knows plenty of pregnancies don't make it to term, I believe that would be considered a miscarriage.

Then I like how you SPIN you into minorities, and gays. When the question, which you neglected to give further explanation on, was about limiting the rights and choices of women. However no mention on the current issue of this Prez and limiting our gun rights.

Does these limits effect me, you decide, my spouse is Hispanic, my Gradfather who was an immigrant followed the policies and procedures and became a US Citizen, he wasn't looking for a "Free Ride".

And let me leave you with this, Colin Kaepernick, who is the 49ers quarterback, played in this past Superbowl was adopted, I commend his biological Mother for giving him a chance at LIFE.

Perhaps it's time to try something new - like encouraging businesses instead of punishing them with tens of thousands of pages of new regulations and mandates and moratoriums and restrictions and tax increases.

What you ignore is that we tried that too!. Bush wouldn't regulate mortgage providers during his term. Don't believe me? Try Googling "preemption and the mortgage crisis".

Bush believed in the free market and government non-intervention. He fought every attempt to control runaway mortgage vultures. Don't believe me? Google "one finger salute from the White House".

In the end, what we got was a trashed American economy. No thanks, Roy!!

EEngineer,

You're absolutely right but Repulicans stand for personal responsibility. Don't you think that it's sad that people can't make life decisions and need policies, regulations, and laws to live?

Before the housing market situation came about, we were told by the broker that we could buy any house we wanted, but being responsible we took into consideration different aspects, such as what if we needed a "new" car, or if some type of house repair was needed, so we bought a house that was within OUR means and you know what, we still have our house, while several on our street went into foreclosure, in which, one was just foreclosed on in the last 60 days.

I don't need big brother to tell me what to do and though I'm a registered Democrat I guess you can say I'm a Republican at heart, so shoot me, oh wait that right was taken away! And if you think it's bad now just wait until they're drones flying around in your backyard, but you'll be allright with that because you'll be told it's for your own safety, remember the uproar there was over the wiring-tapping?

Despite those findings, a majority still supports Congress moving ahead with either the current cuts or a plan containing even more cuts as a way to reduce the deficit, suggesting the public’s general appetite for reducing spending.

Well, will you lookee here, we have us a genuine "cherry picker"! lol

Continue to scour for your silver lining...

LMAO@U Junior!

Speaking of fools! The tax cuts of the conservatives in 2001,2002, and 2003 certainly produced great job increase, and economic gain didn't they? The period of 2001 to 2007 saw he slowest employment growth since the Great Depression and the total outsourcing of production employment of the United States. We need someone to use some common since and develop a program of spending cuts AND reasonable (everyone shares in the pain) tax increases. Again as President Lincoln said " A nation divided against itself cannot stand", true in his time, true today!

Actually, most Americans want both. Did you talk to your neighbors?

America such a sad country....

Tob - you are just plain WRONG (in addition to being hateful). Pew did a poll recently where Americans were given a list of about 25 items, and asked whether they wanted them cut or increased - there was not ONE item they wanted cut. NOT ONE.

Ezra Klein reported on this last night when he guest-hosted The Last Word - he even interviewed one of the guys who started RedState . . . and, unlike you, the 2 of them had an intelligent & respectful discussion without yelling or calling each other names.

Could we have MORE of that? intelligent discussions where people post thoughtful comments without being hateful & calling people nasty names?

.

FORWARD! :-)

typical angry rightie, incapable of rational discussion so resorts to name-calling right out of the gate

did you not read the first sentence of the article?

With automatic, across-the-board spending cuts set to begin Friday, majorities of Americans believe they aren’t a good idea

that means most people don't want the type of cuts the republicans in congress are trying to jam through.

Reagan tried deep cuts and it didn't work

Bush Sr did the same thing with same results

Clinton combined some cuts with spending on infrastructure and guess what? He ended his presidency with a surplus----a surplus that was promptly flushed away by the second Bush

When you stand for what is right, sometimes you will be in the minority. So if you are a person of principle, you don't get a "makeover" to be more popular. Maybe a few Republicans need to chnage a bit, but the party does not need a makoever. Just like the stock market, there are cycles in the political world.

Americans, we have weathered worse and we will come out of this too--better stronger. We are a resilient lot, good, decent and compassionate, We are OK in spite of the New Republican Party. We are on to bigger and better things while the GOP sits in the mud of the past. No time or room for recalcitrant slugs--get up and move forward!

Recess time is over. Our country is facing too many major issues. It’s time for this White House and this Congress to begin acting like adults, roll up their sleeves, and get to work. All Americans are simply sick and tired of this three-ring circus. You were all voted into office to do a job, now do it. Cut out the blame game and finger pointing. The American taxpayers are providing your salaries that range between $175K to $400K a year, plus perks, benefits, and retirement pay, depending on your job or position. It’s time to start producing results. You owe that to the American people and future generations. One last thing – stop blaming everyone else for our problems and I mean both sides of the aisle. If you don’t know how to compromise or lead, you’re in the wrong job, plain and simple. Either do your job or resign. The American people simply don’t have the time or patience to listen to anymore of your bickering or partisan agendas!

Closing loopholes in the tax code is not a tax increase. Raising the rates is. The reason our corporate tax rates are a little higher than some foreign countries is because our tax code is like a piece of Swiss cheese and so is the personal tax code, theirs isn't. You might actually be able to close these and lower your rate and still bring in larger revenues. Politicians love to sell this but never do it. Which is why upper tax rates had to expire at end of year, Boehner never had any intention of closing loopholes like he said

It seems in most areas the people are split almost evenly on things. When you have 60% or more on an issue then you can say majority. I'm not happy with either party but they represent the people that elected them. Maybe we should split the country in to two with red and blue and see which one does better.

JustAnotherComment...in principle agreed with one problem. It's hard to work when one side is consistently on vacation. Mr. Cantor announced that the U.S. House of Rep. will work a sum total of 126 days for the entire year. So how much work given the issues in front of our nation does anyone believe this body of government will resolve? Consider POTUS remained in Washington and now has gone to the people with sleeves rolled up. Sorry, Republicans look very disingenuous.

Tobnpr. Using "Retard" as an insult just shows why so many of the right wing have fallen out of favor with the average citizen. People of all races, creeds and economic levels have children with cognitive issues whom you degrade by your use of insensitive terms. You probably think it is "liberal" to point out such a thing, but if not wanting people in power who degrade others is "liberal", then so be it. When your kind get into power they don't take long to escalate from speaking about others as if they were trash to treating others as if they are. Just sickening. Thank goodness you are not in control and that we have a public that is generally able to see the difference between making a point and making a foolish statement such as yours.

The majority of Americans side with President Obama and are expecting a balanced approach. We aren't stupid, we know that cuts alone are not going to solve the problem and neither are revenue increases alone going to solve it. However, sensible cuts and sensible revenue increases can go a long way toward solving the deficit problem.

Roger-2468

The Unemployment rate from 2001 to 2007 averaged about 5.2%.

That is in the 4.5-5.5% FULL EMPLOYMENT range. Hard to create jobs when EVERYONE IS WORKING!

The workforce Participation rate averaged about 67% for the same period.

Do you care to compare that with Obama's Employment record?

Bill P.-711713

"When you stand for what is right, sometimes you will be in the minority. So if you are a person of principle, you don't get a "makeover" to be more popular. Maybe a few Republicans need to chnage a bit, but the party does not need a makoever. Just like the stock market, there are cycles in the political world."

I disagree in part Bill... Surely there have been cycles before, but those are mainly brought about by a combination of social circumstances AND changes in the general party alignments. This time a great sickness has tainted the republican party. It is now inflexible and the age-old theories of it's racist bent have bubbled out all over the place. It is truly damaged beyond the pale of any past era.

It has become an old and ugly thing now that the majority of America does not want to be around... The more it digs its feet in, the more tempting it is to just let go of the other end of the rope.

In my opinion, a MAJOR overhaul including all ties to the tea-party is required. ANd I'm not sure it isn't too late for even that.

Gee, did a REPUBLICAN win the Presidency, sure they would like us to believe their BS I can see yes We all want more spending cut's but the tax issue is full of SH-T, We want to tax you morons into poverty like us ..... LMAO See everything looks a lot different for the poor people.

Back when I studied the holocaust in high school, I remember thinking: how in the world did Hitler get 6 million people to follow blindly and not fight back, then I realized, I am watching half of my fellow Americans doing the same thing. Sheep. Obama is a failure and you are too stupid to admit it. For the boot licker liberals, he could eat a baby on live TV and it would be okay. He is STILL campaigning, out trying to scare the uninformed voters he always goes after- always.

how in the world did Hitler get 6 million people to follow blindly and not fight back, then I realized, I am watching half of my fellow Americans doing the same thing!

Hey Crystal Meth, put down the pipe! Are YOU seriously comparing 6 million people to the 300 million who reside in this country!

Dayam, did YOU hit ever branch of stupid when you fell out of the dumb @!$%# tree?

Oh, Jesus Christ! You apparently did not pay much attention in high school in regards to the Holocaust, or your teacher gave you guys the watered down and edited version of what happened. Go to the public library and get enlightened on Nazism and the Reich, please. And, you are being completely disrespectful to the victims and the survivors of the Holocaust.

Comparing either party to Nazi's or Hitler makes you one of the worst, or least intellegent humans that exist on this planet.

@Crystal-569996 You need to look back at the election, It clearly was Mittens who believed Goebels "Big LIe" would work and get him elected. Look at his "Welfare Reform" "Chrysler moving to China" "Obama stole from Medicare" "I will save Medicare" These were outright lies that he felt he could just repeat over over and he would be elected, America was much smarter than that. In the end Romney was seen for what he was. An angry old white man or Republican base voter.

Feisty redhead:::: The only reason you think that Obama is so great because he didn't take away your entitlements that the GOP is after!!! Government employees are draining the taxpayer!

Mary911256 - Thanks for the feedback. About the 126 days in session, you do know that the House of Representatives includes both Democrats and Republicans, correct? I believe that we both can both agree that they should all be in DC much, much more. About the President staying in Washington, DC, of course he didn't leave town when Congress went on vacation. Who wants to vacation in Chicago in the winter time? He did manage to spend 3 days in Florida playing golf. And before you reach for your keyboard, I don't care how much golf or how many vacations he goes on. He deserves time off away from the White House.

Lastly, about the President going to the people on the road with his sleeves rolled up, this sequester situation is a good example. The President and the Congress have had since August 2011 to work this out. I really don't think traveling to Newport News today moved the discussion forward one bit which brings me back to my original post. It's time that this White House and this Congress start acting like mature adults, bury the partisan politics, and actually get some work done for all Americans.

MY turn Wi: Your comment really shines on your deep ignorance. The GOP will not get our entitlements, and if you really understood what the entitlements are, you would not have said what you said. By the way, if you work, you will also be entitled to entitlements. You pay into them, idiot, as do I, as does Feisty, as do millions of other Americans, both Dem and Republican. Stop with the stereotyping that Dems don't work and all we do is get hand outs. We all know that the red states are the biggest takers in the country, so STFU already.

The only reason you think that Obama is so great because he didn't take away your entitlements that the GOP is after!!!

HEY Dumb@!$%#! - Get back to me when someone buys YOU a CLUE! lmao

I don't give charity to the truthfully challenged....

lol A poll of 100 people makes an NBC headline? At some point you can't help but laugh at this so-called news network. How's this for a poll headline?

POLLS SHOW THAT NBC NEEDS A MAKEOVER

Last place as most trusted news network (tied for last with comedy channel) http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/07/ppp_fox_news_poll_americans_viewing_habits_polarized_pbs_only_tv_source.html

Last place in Feb sweeps month http://www.deadline.com/2013/02/nbc-sweeps-ratings-lastloses-to-univision/

California is as blue as you can get, and we have 1/3 of the nation welfare recipients, so what's your point?

Oh, and FYI the Republicans don't want to take away our entitlements they want to do the responsible thing, and reform them. Instead it looks like our children and our grandchildren will be saddled with that unnecessary burden.

"The majority of Americans side with President Obama and are expecting a balanced approach."

Is any random poll of American voters really a valid sample when almost half don't pay federal income tax. Yeah, of course it will show that the majority want a balance approach--which by the way is not a valid question. Why? Because it doesn't even properly define 'Balanced and to too many (mostly democrat voters) 'balanced' to them means increasing taxes to those other than themselves and no cuts if it effects me in any way. DO you guys really read this stuff and base your views on it? Just shows you minions don't really know how to gather information and develop views on real facts and your own knowledge base which appears pretty thin.

Alaska Girl,

You want things today, that you "paid for in the past" and you want them to be valued at yesterday’s rates. That's unrealistic when the dollar is continually devalued. When you finally get to cash-in and receive your entitlement benefits, you will find changes. The actual trade-in value will be much less then your perceived value is. It will be the same for all of us. Your medicare benefits will still be there but you won't get nearly as much care. Your SS benefits will still be there but your benefit payments received will be much lower. That's what happens when we allow the President to direct the Feds to print so much faux money and maintain an increasing deficit, currently at over $16 trillion. You want more bang for your buck? Have the President and Congress cut spending so we operate with a balanced budget, eventually paying down debt and operating with "positive cash flow". Have him stop the feds from printing more faux money. Be prepared to tighten your belt for the next 15 - 20 years. Many of us won't live to see the end of this but we can contribute to the rebuilding. You can't rebuild when you have no money to rebuild with (just ask Greece). We've already borrowed much and spent foolishly. It really depends on how selfish you are going to be for future generations. You may not live as long or as well but you will have the satisfaction of knowing you positively contributed in getting the countries finances in order for future generations.

dr821/ Are you assuming that our country will continue to be in this Republican induced depression for an indefinite period?If you are then I am pleased to disappoint you.If our P.O.T.U.S. and his party are able to reverse the advantages to the rich and greedy we should be able to stop the business cheating and over charging,as well as ,I hope the outright stealing i.e. fraud,waste and abuse that we now experience.We pay more for less than most other industrial nations.so I would hope that our nation can advance in respect to our social welfare. We are leaping ahead at a tremendous pace technically,so we should be able to advance in our social welfare equally so .Prosperity must not be exclusively for the rich.