First Thoughts: Here comes the bully pulpit

Here comes the bully pulpit… Obama to give remarks at 10:45 am ET calling on Congress to avoid the so-called sequester… Rubio vs. White House -- bad for immigration reform, or exactly what’s needed to pass it?... White House vs. MSM… Sanford goes on “TODAY”… Retirement watch for 2014… On Johanns and bipartisanship… Simpson-Bowles, Part 2… And for the GOP, time to move away from Reagan?

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President Barack Obama speaks to students and guests during a visit to Hyde Park Academy High School on Feb. 15, 2013 in Chicago, Illinois.

*** Here comes the bully pulpit: At 10:45 am ET, President Obama will deliver a statement urging Congress to avoid the automatic spending cuts set to take effect on March 1. Per the White House, the president will make these remarks surrounded by emergency responders -- “the kinds of working Americans whose jobs are on the line if Congressional Republicans fail to compromise on a balanced solution,” it says. House Speaker John Boehner’s office tells First Read it agrees that the so-called sequester “is a bad way to cut spending.” More from Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck: “That's why we've twice passed a plan to replace it with common sense cuts and reforms that don't threaten our security, safety, and economy.” But you can see where this is going. Today, Obama will be surrounded by first responders; tomorrow, it might be military families; and the day after that, it could be with essential government workers who could be furloughed. This is the one power a president has with Congress as it relates to domestic policy: the power of persuasion. We have seen the future of this sequester fight over the next few weeks, and it is today -- a massive public-relations effort with the president using his pulpit to drop a political hammer on Congress.

With just 10 days to prevent $85 billion in across-the-board automatic spending cuts, President Barack Obama will present his endgame on Tuesday. The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd reports.

*** Rubio vs. White House: Bad for immigration reform? Or exactly what’s needed to pass it? While today’s policy fight is over the sequester, during the long holiday weekend it was over the thorny issue of immigration. The skirmish began with USA Today getting its hands on the White House’s draft immigration proposal, which apparently would allow illegal immigrants to become legal permanent residents within eight years. Within hours of publication, Sen. Marco Rubio -- who’s part of a bipartisan group of senators working on comprehensive immigration reform -- blasted that White House proposal as being “dead on arrival in Congress.” Not a good sign of passing immigration reform, right? Well, Talking Points Memo has the theory (which we share) that this kind of conflict is what’s EXACTLY needed to pass immigration reform. Why? “Not wanting to be seen as a shill for a Democratic president’s signature achievement, Rubio’s strategy from the start has been to play up his differences with the White House as much as possible… The Republicans [Rubio] needs to win over to pass a bill will be a lot more comfortable if they think they’re somehow thumbing their nose at Obama by voting for it.” So if you’re a Republican supporting immigration reform, you eagerly want to highlight any differences with the White House (no matter how small they might be). On the other hand, if you’re an opponent of immigration reform, your goal is to point out how similar the proposals are. And that is exactly what we saw happen yesterday.

*** The White House vs. the MSM: This morning, Politico runs a piece noting that President Obama has become “a master at limiting, shaping and manipulating media coverage of himself and his White House,” and it’s central beef has gone around the Mainstream Media (which includes the news organization that printed the piece). While the article comes across as whining and uses the non-news story of Obama golfing with Tiger Woods as its peg, it does make two important points. One, the president hasn’t given an interview with a White House reporter (the folks who are covering him) in over a year. And two, as ABC’s Ann Compton raises in the piece, the White House no longer gives policy briefings on important topics. Then again, despite those valid criticisms, here’s something to keep in mind: The same piece could have been written about every modern president, going back to Nixon. (Think of all the wasted ink and gripes about Reagan’s media mastermind, the late Michael Deaver.) All presidents want to control their images and access to the media. And with changes in technology and the news business, the ways to do that keep growing and growing.

*** Sanford goes on “TODAY”: With the special GOP primary to fill South Carolina’s vacated House taking place next month, former Gov. Mark Sanford (R) went on “TODAY” to talk about his candidacy in the race. He said that while he failed in marriage ("If we live long enough, we're going to fail at something”), he never failed South Carolina taxpayers. But when NBC’s Savannah Guthrie brought up the State Ethics Commission charges that were unearthed after knowledge of Sanford’s affair -- spending taxpayer money on business-class flights, using state aircraft for personal travel, spending campaign funds for non-campaign expenses -- Sanford said he never admitted guilt, despite agreeing to pay $74,000 to settle those ethics charges. Flashback to the March 2010. The Columbia State: “In the agreement, released Thursday, the Ethics Commission issued a public reprimand to the governor and disagreed with his argument that he broke no laws.” Depends on the meaning of an “ethics” fine?

*** Retirement watch for 2014: NBC’s Kasie Hunt reported yesterday that Sen. Mike Johanns (R-NE) will not be seeking re-election next year. So here’s our retirement watch for 2014: The Democrats -- so far -- have to defend four open seats (West Virginia’s Jay Rockefeller, Massachusetts’ John Kerry, Iowa’s Tom Harkin, and New Jersey’s Frank Lautenberg), versus two for Republicans (Nebraska’s Johanns and Georgia’s Saxby Chambliss). But the political reality is that the Republican-held open seats in Georgia and Nebraska will be much easier for the GOP to defend, while Democrats will have to fight tooth and nail (and pray for a divisive GOP primaries) in Iowa and West Virginia to hold on to those seats. What’s more, Democrats have to keep their eye on other potential retirements in South Dakota (Tim Johnson) and Michigan (Carl Levin). That’s the task for Democratic Senate Campaign Committee Executive Director Guy Cecil, whom the New York Times profiles today.

*** On Johanns and bipartisanship: Speaking of Johanns, it’s worth noting that this former George W. Bush cabinet member belonged to the so-called “Gang of Eight” trying to achieve bipartisan deficit reduction (he’s the second of four GOP members of that Gang to announce his retirement; Saxby Chambliss is the other). He also voted against the GOP filibuster against Chuck Hagel’s nomination to be defense secretary -- and said he’d vote for his fellow Nebraskan in an up-or-down vote. Ask yourself this: Is the Senate, post-2014, going to be better off without someone like Johanns?

*** Simpson-Bowles, Part 2: Speaking of bipartisan deficit-reduction deals, Simpson-Bowles, Part 2 is being rolled out today. They are calling for $2.4 trillion in additional deficit reduction, as well as a 3-to-1 ratio of cuts (including entitlement reform) to tax increases (via tax reform). How many Republicans will embrace Simpson-Bowles Part 2 if it includes more taxes? We’re guessing not many. This plan  -- and it’s embrace of chained CPI on Social Security -- looks a lot more like something the president could support than congressional Republicans right now.

*** Time to move away from Reagan? Yesterday, we learned that Sarah Palin -- remember her? -- will be addressing the Conservative Political Action Conference in the DC area next month. But with prominent Republicans and conservatives slated to speak at the annual confab, taking place just months after the party’s losses in 2012, this New York Times op-ed by conservative writer Ramesh Ponnuru is worth chewing on: The GOP needs to move away from Ronald Reagan, especially as it relates to dealing with policy issues 25 years after he left office. After all, as Ponnuru writes, Reagan cut taxes at a time when the top rate was 70%; now it’s half of that. “In his first Inaugural Address, Reagan famously said that ‘government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.’ The less famous yet crucial beginning of that sentence was ‘in our present crisis.’ The question is whether conservatism revives by attending to today’s conditions, or becomes something withered and dead.”

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Frist. Tee hee

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#1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:13 AM EST

Now that the March 1, 2013 sequester deadline is fast approaching and
everyone in Washington is claiming it was not their idea and trying to blame
someone else, it's important to have the FACTS.

Here's that far right wing rag, the Washington Post's fact checker's reporting:

The sequester idea was dreamed up by Barry's White House.

And the WAPO awarded Barry Four Pinocchios for claiming "It is something that Congress has proposed."

Obama's fanciful claim that Congress 'proposed' the sequester

By Glenn Kessler, Published: October 25, 2012 | Updated: Friday, October
26, 6:02 AM

"The sequester is not something that I've proposed. It is something that
Congress has proposed."

— President Obama, in the third presidential debate, Oct. 22, 2012

As the saying goes, success has a thousand fathers, while failure is an
orphan. And if there ever is an orphan in Washington these days, it is that odd
duck known as "sequestration."

We've earlier written that there are bipartisan fingerprints over the
looming defense cuts that Mitt Romney has sought to pin on President Obama.
Now, in the final presidential debate, Obama sought to toss the hot potato of
sequestration — the process that is forcing those defense cuts and reductions
in domestic spending — into Congress's lap.

Fortunately, there is a detailed and contemporaneous look at the debt
ceiling deal that led to the current budget crunch: Bob Woodward's "The Price
of Politics." The book clearly had the full cooperation of top White House and
congressional officials. With the help of our colleague, we took a tour through
the relevant sections in order to determine the accuracy of the president's
statement.

The Facts

The battle over raising the debt ceiling consumed Washington in the summer
of 2011, with Republicans refusing to agree to raise it unless spending was cut
by an equivalent amount. Obama pressed but failed to get an agreement on
raising revenue as part of the package. Woodward's book details the efforts to
come up with an enforcement mechanism that would make sure the cuts took place
— and virtually every mention shows this was a White House gambit.

Page 215 (July 12, 2011):

They turned to [White House national economic council director Gene]
Sperling for details about a compulsory trigger if they didn't cut spending or
raise taxes in an amount at least equivalent to the debt ceiling increase.

"A trigger would lock in our commitment," Sperling explained. "Even though
we disagree on the composition of how to get to the cuts, it would lock us in.
The form of the automatic sequester would punish both sides. We'd have to
September to avert any sequester" — a legal obligation to make spending cuts.

"Then we could use a medium or big deal to force tax reform," Obama said
optimistically.

"If this is a trigger for tax reform," [House speaker John] Boehner said,
"this could be worth discussing. But as a budget tool, it's too complicated.
I'm very nervous about this."

"This would be an enforcement mechanism," Obama said.

Short version: The White House proposed the idea of a compulsory trigger, with
Sperling calling it an "automatic sequester," though initially it was to
include tax revenue, not just spending cuts. Boehner was "nervous" about using
it as a budget tool.

Short version: Once tax increases were off the table, the White House staff came up
with a sequestration plan that only had spending cuts and sold Harry Reid on
the idea.

Short version: This is the third reference to the White House putting together the
plan for sequester. Granted, they are using language from a congressional law
from a quarter-century earlier, but that seems a thin reed on which to say this
came from Congress. In fact, Lew had been a policy advisor to then House
Speaker Tip O'Neill from 1979 to 1987, and so was familiar with the law.

Short version: Republicans agreed to the White House
proposal for a sequester.

Short version: Republicans had to work through the night to understand the White House
proposal
.

The Pinocchio Test

No one disputes the fact that no one wanted sequestration, or that
ultimately a bipartisan vote in Congress led to passage of the Budget Control
Act. But the president categorically said that sequestration was "something
that Congress has proposed."

Woodward's detailed account of meetings during the crisis, clearly based on
interviews with key participants and contemporaneous notes, make it clear that
sequestration was a proposal advanced and promoted by the White House.

In sum: Gene Sperling brought up the idea of a sequester, while Jack Lew
sold Harry Reid on the idea and then decided to use the Gramm-Hollings-Rudman
language (which he knew from his days of working for Tip O'Neill) as a template
for sequester. The proposal was so unusual for Republicans that staffers had to
work through the night to understand it.

Oddly, Lew in Tampa on Thursday, publicly asserted the opposite: "There was
an insistence on the part of Republicans in Congress for there to be some
automatic trigger…. [It] was very much rooted in the Republican congressional
insistence that there be an automatic measure at the end."

This prompted Woodward to go over his notes and interviews once again, to
make sure he had gotten it right.

"After reviewing all the interviews and the extensive material I have on
this issue, it looks like President Obama told a whopper," Woodward said.
"Based on what Jack Lew said in Florida today, I have asked the White House to
correct the record."

We had been wavering between Three and Four Pinocchios. But in light's of
Lew's decision to doubledown on Obama's claim, we agree it's a whopper.

Four Pinocchios

  • 35 votes
#1.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:14 AM EST
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

One, the president hasn’t given an interview with a White House reporter (the folks who are covering him)

Perhaps, the folks who cover him should try calling him President Obama rather than Mr. Obama!

Showing respect to the man and the office he won tends to go a long way...

Yes, I'm l@@king at you Kristen Welker and Peter Alexander, your half baked attempts to diminish the man do NOT go unnoticed!

  • 50 votes
#1.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:15 AM EST

President Obama will be the 1st serving U.S. President to receive Israel's presidential medal, when he visits Israel next month.

This distinction honors his contribution to Israel's society and image around the world: "President Obama has made a unique and meaningful contribution to strengthening the state of Israel and the security of its people...
Barack Obama is a true friend of the state of Israel and has been since the beginning of his public life. As president of the United States he has stood beside Israel in times of crisis".

Let's hope Marco RomneyRetroRubio will be mindful of the high honors paid by Israel to President Barack Obama - when he meets with Netanyahu and Peres this week as member of the Foreign Relations Committee.

  • 37 votes
#1.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:15 AM EST

Butchering quotes to support a false narrative, that's what we argued about Friday, thanks to a horribly constructed poll from Public Policy Polling. Fox, according to this poll, is the MOST and the LEAST trusted news network. MSNBC and other networks were also on the list, and MSNBC fared poorly.

The "Who do you trust?" debate began. Fox edits tapes/quotes, deliberately altering content to fit a scenario, a narrative, or to complement their propaganda. That is an indisputable fact. We've seen it, and there were examples in Friday's thread. Other outfits, including NBC and MSNBC edit tapes and quotes too.

The question is whether deception or time considerations dictate the edit. One particular tape, that of George Zimmerman - the killer of Trayvon Martin - was edited by NBC. Some argued the edit cast a negative light on Zimmerman. An honest appraisal could lead to that conclusion. Whether that was the intent is open to debate. However, the editors were fired.

These types of edits are encouraged at Fox. It's standard operating procedure. One Fox apologist argued until he had turned himself into a knot a Boy Scout couldn't undo defending Fox. At bottom, his justification was essentially - Well, everybody does it. No, everybody doesn't do it.

As an example, the President's statement that you can't do it alone, was taken out of context by Fox. It did alter the meaning, and it accomplished exactly what Fox meant to accomplish. The Fox defender went on to say the President thinks success was based on luck. From a butchered quote, our Fox defender is now telling us what the President THINKS. Goebbels would be proud.

At this point, we realize the Fox defender is not going to admit that Fox lies. No matter that Fox has actually sued for the right to lie, and damned if they're going to let their right to lie be infringed, and that evening they did it again.

According to Fox, President Obama wants to be Emperor. The President said no such thing. With their penchant for selective editing, the liars clipped the quotation to say: The problem is I'm the President, not the Emperor. He DID NOT say that, but right-wingers, including bottom-feeder Sean Hannity - edited OUT the true meaning. What they took OUT was where President Obama says his job is to execute laws, he is not an emperor.

The right-wing is in a frenzy over this latest abomination from Fox and their knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing friends. There is no defense for blatantly lying. That is what a propaganda machine does. Lies are perfectly acceptable. They have shown that in the past, they showed it just days ago, and they will continue to do so. Liars! That's what they are.

There is no word that adequately describes people who lie to their own children, who sell their country for a few paltry dollars, who have no care that they are destroying mankind. There is no word, but they have names. The names are Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, World Net Daily, and more. Their last name is EVIL.

  • 50 votes
#1.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:17 AM EST

From the article, "The GOP needs to move away from Ronald Reagan, especially as it relates to dealing with policy issues 25 years after he left office."

To bad we didn't do that 30 years ago, this country would be in a lot better shape had we not been introduced to supply side economics which has always failed. With the latest failure being the administration of George W. Bush which took this country and much of the world into the worst economic disaster since the great depression. We will need many years of democratic demand fired economics to undue the damage done by these republicans.

  • 40 votes
#1.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:19 AM EST

Yesterday, I read with humor the attacks on Ed Henry from Fox News as President of the White House Reporters Group. Seems Old Ed isn't the only that thinks this President is a liar when it comes to being "The most Transparent Administration ever"

From Politico:

“The way the president’s availability to the press has shrunk in the last two years is a disgrace,” said ABC News White House reporter Ann Compton, who has covered every president back to Gerald R. Ford. “The president’s day-to-day policy development — on immigration, on guns — is almost totally opaque to the reporters trying to do a responsible job of covering it. There are no readouts from big meetings he has with people from the outside, and many of them aren’t even on his schedule. This is different from every president I covered. This White House goes to extreme lengths to keep the press away.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/obama-the-puppet-master-87764.html#ixzz2LM2xKQsl

  • 29 votes
#1.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:19 AM EST

And Joe A...............your point???? They signed it and no one forced their hand. Does it matter at this point? It seems to me you are just like the Congress looking for an out.

Get to work Congress instead of taking so much time off, may be you would accomplish something instead of just grandstanding.

  • 35 votes
#1.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:20 AM EST

*** Rubio vs. White House: Bad for immigration reform? Or exactly what’s needed to pass it?

Steve Benen's Take:

I've never been entirely clear on Rubio's motivations. On the one hand, the senator has accomplished nothing during his brief career, and may want to use comprehensive immigration reform as a way to bolster his credibility as a serious policymaker. On the other, Rubio may also want to position himself as the right-wing champion who stopped President Obama from passing one of his domestic policy priorities in his second term.

Benjy Sarlin makes the case that Rubio's alleged outrage over the weekend is actually closer to Kabuki Theater -- he's pretending to condemn the White House's blueprint, even though he agrees with it, because if a high-profile Republican is seen applauding Obama, it might make reform less likely, not more.

What we're left with is a simple truth: it's a messy game Rubio's playing.

______________

Immigration Reform. President Obama will get it passed, once Rubio and the rest of his party have had their tantrums like they always do. Why doesn't Rubio for once in his life step up to the plate and act like a reasoned legislator?

How low the GOP have dragged down our country.

Rubio isn't going anywhere nationally. He refuses to separate himself from the haters in his party.

Backhouse, where does Rubio stand on voter suppression?

Has he come out against it yet? No. He actually supports it in his state.

And he has the audacity to go to Israel? Now that's rich.

  • 35 votes
#1.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:20 AM EST

Joe in Albany,

"everyone in Washington is claiming..." If you mean the Congress, well, they are not in DC.

They have the week off.

They will have four working days before the sequestration cuts begin.

  • 28 votes
#1.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:21 AM EST

This morning on the Drew and Mike Radio show in Detroit, they had a hilarious segment where they called some of the folks that showed up at the "Support Chris Dorner Rally" Most couldn't speak English and based on a photo essay of the group at the rally they concluded that they were mostly Low Income out of work people.

In other words, typical Obama supporters.

I know realize why it's so difficult to be an Obama supporter.

One day they tell you to go to a rally to support a mass murderer, the next day your orders are to go to a Gun Control Rally and the next day they tell you to go to a Global Warming Rally on the Coldest day of the year.

No wonder you guys are so damn "conflicted" all the time.

  • 34 votes
#1.10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:24 AM EST

I can give you another example of media manipulation David, that has always bothered me. Nancy Pelosi said " Away from the controversy" "we have to pass this bill (The Affordable Health Care Act) to see what is in it. Leaving the first part off made it sound like congress never read the bill. This is entirely wrong. For crying out loud, they wrote it. Why would you think they didn't know what was in it when they voted on it. But it changed the conversation, and Fox was at the bottom of it by taking Mrs. Pelosi statement out of context.

  • 30 votes
#1.11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:25 AM EST

Out to Pasture

From the article above:

Speaking of Johanns, it’s worth noting that this former George W. Bush cabinet member belonged to the so-called “Gang of Eight” trying to achieve bipartisan deficit reduction (he’s the second of four GOP members of that Gang to announce his retirement; Saxby Chambliss is the other). He also voted against the GOP filibuster against Chuck Hagel’s nomination to be defense secretary --

On Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” Senator John McCain said "I'm confident that Sen. Hagel will probably have the votes necessary to be confirmed as Secretary of Defense."

John McCain has fought his last battle. This confirmation hearing was his last stand. He will not run for re-election. His once illustrious career has come to an embarrassing bitter and self-loathing end. All he can do now is watch with envy as his fellow Senators excel in importance and stature.

McCain displayed a cold-hearted callousness and blatant disregard for the security of the American people by forcing an unprecedented filibuster of a fellow Republican Vietnam War Veteran of two Purple Hearts.

While trying to remain significant in the national spotlight, John McCain’s proved his conduct is indicative of just how LOW he and this Mad Hatter Tea Party congress have sunk. Exiting Secretary Leo Panetta articulates his thoughts on Congress quite nicely in his last Press Briefing (below).

John Kerry is now the new Secretary of State. Chuck Hagel will be the new Secretary of Defense. And as for you Senator, let me help you with your coat and hat. It’s cold and cloudy out there.

Courtesy of the U.S. Department of Defense – Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Q: Mr. Secretary, you talk a little bit about the accomplishments of the department and the things you're proud of. I wonder if you could focus a little bit on any particular disappointments during your tenure here…

SEC. PANETTA: I don't -- you know, I don't -- I don't pretend that we always make the right decisions. We make mistakes. But what I look for are members (Congress) who are willing to work with us, to try to work our way through some tough issues and be able to find some solutions. We need to find solutions. We can't just sit here and bitch. We can't just sit here and complain. We can't just sit here and blame others. We can't just sit here and point fingers at each other. We can't just sit here and try to get sound bites. We can't just sit here and try to make points, political points.

We now interrupt this program to bring you the following message:

The problem... is that most members of Congress don't pay attention to what's going on.
John McCain

Salud

  • 34 votes
#1.12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:26 AM EST

As an example, the President's statement that you can't do it alone, was taken out of context by Fox

David,

Nice work!

Don't forget the entire "back of the bus" nontroverey was manufactured by them and the right wing nitwits still repeat it today even though it was NEVER said by the President.

I posted 6 or so examples of NewsforDumbFux blatantly misleading viewers along with the key words for a Google search for a treasure chest of others on Friday, in return I got fingers in their ears yelling *LALALALALALALA*

  • 36 votes
#1.13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:27 AM EST

Oh yeh, Republicans are so concerned about the deficit. So concerned - that they offer not ONE major policy concession to address it. Even though GOP likes to call it a "transcendent issue" -- GOP will not permit tax revenues even on the very wealthiest Americans - the wealthiest humans in the world.

And GOP Sen. Graham is touting cuts to HEALTHCARE rather than cut Defense spending.

GOP uses "the deficit" to hold ordinary Americans hostage.

  • 32 votes
#1.14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:28 AM EST

Backhouse

President Obama will be the 1st serving U.S. President to receive Israel's presidential medal, when he visits Israel next month.

Backhouse,

Thanks maybe that'll put a sock in Huckleberry Hound and Hannity's now.

Mike Huckabee's Three-Day Tour of Israel

http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,34667224001_1917544,00.html

Why does Mike Huckabee love Israel so much?

http://www.salon.com/2011/02/18/huckabee_israel_end_times/

What did Huckleberry Hound receive for spewing his hatred?

  • 21 votes
#1.15 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:28 AM EST

Congress is the only one who can write the law to fix sequestration.

They are paid far more than the average American to fix this.

Over 500 days later, Congress still refuse to do their jobs. Congress still refuses to do what they promised they would do.

Anyone who doesn't realize Congress is responsible should take a citizenship test to learn how our government works.

  • 33 votes
#1.16 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:32 AM EST

From the article, "The GOP needs to move away from Ronald Reagan, especially as it relates to dealing with policy issues 25 years after he left office."

To bad we didn't do that 30 years ago, this country would be in a lot better shape had we not been introduced to supply side economics which has always failed.

_________________

Johntho: Perfectly stated.

  • 30 votes
#1.17 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:37 AM EST

Beverly, I think the girlies on the View awarded him that medal when he ignored Netanyahu's NYC visit.

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:37 AM EST

As Americans struggle to hold on the Republicans are trying to push Sequester down our throats, the GOP-TP has become everything the American people don't want or need !!!

  • 28 votes
#1.19 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:38 AM EST

Feisty, well said! I have zero sympathy for the whining press.

David W, Pat Boston, terrific reads this morning. Backhouse, that news will upset the conservative narrative!

Johntho, "frist" again? :)

  • 26 votes
#1.20 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:39 AM EST
Comment author avatarAuntie FascistExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

White Collar Auto, I fit none of the groups that you stereotyped as "typical Obama supporters". I'm not conflicted about a damn thing! I voted for the best candidate for president and I've got you pegged as an a$$hole! No conflicts at all!!

  • 32 votes
#1.21 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:40 AM EST

Ummm...folks?

Sequester was Obama's idea.

Why do you not hold this President responsible for anything?

  • 35 votes
#1.22 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:40 AM EST

TomasGrande, we as a nation can only hope that Senator McCain has fought his last battle.

He is one of the most destructive Senators we have had in history.

And no, I won't commend him for his military service. His lack of respect for other's military service is so GD disrespectful and he deserves exactly what he dishes out.

  • 35 votes
#1.23 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:41 AM EST
Comment author avatarRick-3416939Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

So Obama takes to the bully pulpit to make more demands. Obama fully believes in the democratic process just so long as they give him what he wants. It is just so great to see Obama touting all the damage a paltry 85 billion in cuts this year are going to cause to our already over bloated federal government. Seems laughable to suggest these sequester cuts will cause any pain, especially when there is no budget so they can ratchet up the spending whenever they want. Obama simply does not know how to lead on any issue, and his only successes have come from procedural loopholes and not open and honest debate or negotiations. Apparently the quality of character needed for a community organizer is that of a bully. Other then excuses, blame, and the race card nothing else has worked for Obama. I guess if the first four years of Obama proved anything, it is that he is incapable of learning how to work together to solve problems. But so long as Obama has taken to the traditional Democrat scare tactics of who will suffer from spending cuts, let us remind him of other memorable time tested possibilities. They are taking food from the mouths of children. They want everyone to breathe dirty air and drinking dirty water. These cuts are on the backs of seniors. These cuts will only benefit the wealthy...

  • 26 votes
#1.24 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:41 AM EST

David Walker @ 1.4: FNC is not the only conservative news source out there. It's the one you pick on because they dig up the most dirt on the left. Personally, I don't need someone to tell me how incompetent and sleazy this President is. He does a very good job every time he opens his mouth.

  • 29 votes
#1.25 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:42 AM EST

Great comments there Fascist.

Nice to see another level headed, well spoken Liberal this morning.

  • 16 votes
#1.26 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:42 AM EST

Feisty, well said! I have zero sympathy for the whining press

Jody,

Did you notice on Inauguration Day, when Al Roker shouted out; Mr. President... Mr. President - he was acknowledged by the Prez?

Meanwhile, a bit later Kristen Welker, tried to copy him but was shouting; Mr. Obama... Mr. Obama and he walked right past her!

As he should of!

The MSM treats this man with utter contempt most of the time, then they bitch when he refuses to roll over for them!

  • 26 votes
#1.27 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:43 AM EST

To put the blame squarely on Congress is very shortsighted. This is a leadership issue. Our President should have been leading this fight for the past month or more (given he had to get through his inauguration). Unfortunately, he was trying too hard on gun control and immigration reform. Sadly, it looks like sequestration will happen and if it does, there is enough blame to go around beginning at the top.

  • 18 votes
#1.28 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:43 AM EST

Note to the Republican party : Stop trying to starve our Nation for your personal revenge because you lost the Election, you can't cut your way to prosperity !!!

  • 26 votes
#1.29 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:47 AM EST

WH Chief of Staff Denis McDonough confirmed that the Administration is SUPPORTING the bipartisan talks on Immigration "very aggressively".

It is legitimate for the WH to have a back-up plan, in view of GOP's 4 year history of obstruction. And the 'draft language' was leaked. It happens. So what?

  • 20 votes
#1.30 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:47 AM EST

This morning on the Drew and Mike Radio show in Detroit, they had a hilarious segment where they called some of the folks that showed up at the "Support Chris Dorner Rally" Most couldn't speak English and based on a photo essay of the group at the rally they concluded that they were mostly Low Income out of work people.

In other words, typical Obama supporters.

*FACEPALM*

  • 16 votes
#1.31 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:48 AM EST

Jody, ( - :

  • 9 votes
#1.32 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:48 AM EST

Go President Obama ! Now's the time to begin pushing your agenda. You've put so much on Congress's plate that they won't know what to block first. Go for the whole package. That will overwhelm them.

And Joe in Albany. Yours blogs get longer and more useless every day. Are you now getting paid by the "WORD" from Fox News? Seems so.

  • 25 votes
#1.33 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:49 AM EST

Hey Feistey.... Please, PLEASE educate yourself... and look THIS up... It's perfectly acceptable to address a standing president by either President OR Mister.... You sound SO dumb.

And I see you still rather ignore the facts in 90% of your posts.

  • 25 votes
#1.35 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:51 AM EST

This POTUS would surround himself with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs if it would distract the public .

  • 19 votes
#1.36 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:52 AM EST

It's the one you pick on because they dig up the most dirt on the left.

Dig up? I believe the term you meant was 'manufacture', as in manufacture manure - which was the point of D. Walker's post.

  • 18 votes
#1.37 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:53 AM EST

Taking it at face value, I can only chuckle at the first ad put out by Sanford in SC, where he says "...more recently, I've experienced how none of us go through life without mistakes..."

Mark Sanford is 52 years old and has the audacity to put out an ad that basically said that it wasn't until you decided to dip your dinky doo in the warmer of waters of South America that you "experienced" what a mistake was.

You didn't say 'continue'...you didn't say 'I've made mistakes before and will make them again', no. You have the nerve to say that at 50 or however old you were when this happened, was the {first} time in your life where you "experienced" the realization "...that none of us go through life without mistakes".

It is this 'my boo boo is so clear I can't stand it' perspective that is what's wrong with you folks...(especially within the ranks of the GOP)

  • 16 votes
#1.38 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:53 AM EST

No wonder you guys are so damn "conflicted" all the time.

I'd rather be "conflicted" than confused like you are White Collar Auto. Being conflicted means you're able to consider more than one issue at a time. Being confused means you don't have a clue whats going on.

Tea people republicans = confused

Liberals = conflicted

  • 16 votes
#1.39 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:54 AM EST

Geez, the absolute BRILLIANCE of the #1 post of the day is simply too much for me to bear .... I wonder if johnny boy stayed up all night thinking up that one ?

Once again, the essence of this article is that Obama does not want to work directly with Congress and he does not want to communicate with the White house Press Corps. Obama will pose with stars from Hollywood, play golf with Tiger, run to politically-contrived shows like "The View" and fly around the world in Air Force one trying to sell HIS agenda !

The "sequester" will be fully on Obama's back. Taxes have already been raised twice and all the so-called "cuts" are in the future and are totally inadequate. Expect the spin machine to get cranked up today with the lamestream media attempting to put all blame on the Republicans ! LOL !!

And Mo, as usual, you have it wrong:

"Tea people Republicans" - desire a BUDGET and want our country to live WITHIN that budget

"Liberals" -don't know what a budget is, have been told by Bam-Bam it is evil, get help balancing a checkbook

  • 19 votes
#1.40 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:55 AM EST

I know the subject of addressing the President has come up before. This is from the author of "Protocol School of Washington's Honor and Respect: The Official Guide to Names, Titles, and Forms of Address".

In the media the journalists are referring to The President in the third person in a story ... so they will refer to him in various ways so who they are talking about is clear to the listener. You'll hear:
Barack Obama
President Obama
Obama
Mr. Obama

These are not forms of address ... for which there are rules. In direct address a president is addressed as
Mr. President
His given name or surname is not used in his presence.
Listen to a White House news conference, and all the reporters address him as Mr. President.
White House staff refer to him as The President ... which makes sense since he is the only President to them! But on the evening news they may refer to several presidents ... the president of the United States ... the president of British Petroleum ... the president of a national association.
Sometimes you hear someone directly address the President of the United States asPresident Obama ... but that person is incorrect .... doesn't know the tradition ... and has probably just been listening to the evening news and thinks that is correct.
Whenever I hear that I write a note to the reporter. Not sure it does any good, but I feel better.

(Please note that emphasis is the author's, not mine)

  • 12 votes
#1.41 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:55 AM EST

Rick,

[Seems laughable to suggest these sequester cuts will cause any pain, especially when there is no budget so they can ratchet up the spending whenever they want.]

Actually there is a budget in effect known as “The Budget Control Act of 2011” which, unlike other Congressional budgets is a law.

If any spending is ratcheted up it means that the Republican controlled House passed it.

  • 13 votes
#1.42 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:55 AM EST

You can't cut your way to prosperity like you can't deficit spend your way to solvency. Solution: bankruptcy.

  • 11 votes
#1.43 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:57 AM EST

Pat Boston MA

Thanks, Pat.

Always good to hear from you!

Great Posts from my Progressive friends this morning.

And to WCA,

The Daily Beast

Who's to Blame for the Sequester? by Micheal Tomasky

February 19, 2013

And then, when it was all put into legislation, it was the Republicans who passed the Budget Control Act of 2011 in the House, with 218 of them voting yes. So even if administration officials proposed it, it would have remained just a proposal if those 218 Republicans hadn’t supported it (no House Democrats backed it). Most Republicans agreed at the time that the sequestration trigger was a good thing—that it would force everyone to get together and agree to a path forward and a long-term budget deal.

Salud

  • 19 votes
#1.44 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:59 AM EST

WCA -- Congress signed onto it. Period. Could it be Republicans prefer the sequester? If it was important to them to find an alternative solution they'd be on the job working instead of vacationing and playing the blame game.

  • 17 votes
#1.45 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:59 AM EST

Can we PLEASE get rid of wilsonarden11???

  • 16 votes
#1.47 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:03 AM EST

Tomas, terrific post. I assume you enjoyed your seminar last week.

In fact, lots of great posts here today; too many to list, friends.

Feisty, and Welker got what she deserved, nothing. Al Roker showed respect and was rewarded for it.

When the sequester is mentioned, no one mentions that it was tied to the establishment of the Super Committee with republican and democratic members from the House and Senate charged with working to reduce the deficit and cut spending with a scalpel not an arbitrary hatchet. If the failed, the arbitrary hatchet was the Sequester. The Sequester was designed to be distasteful to both sides. Democrats and republicans on the Committee worked together but as usual, the GOPers refused to put revenues on the table. No deal was ever reached and the result was the self-imposed sequester hatchet. I seriously doubt when both sides agreed to the sequester, they actually believed the Super Committee would not be able to compromise but here we are.

As for republican finger-pointing, the GOPers should take a look in the mirror; after all, they signed on to the Sequester with their votes. Only 95 democratic house members voted for it, the rest were republicans. Meanwhile, Congress took 10 days off. They have worked 15 days so far this year.....crisis management ignored.

  • 19 votes
#1.48 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:03 AM EST

Lawrence O'Donnell's Tribute to President's Day:

Very very moving segment last night on Lawrence's program with regard to a new video which showcases an interpretation 50+ years later of JFK's Inaugural Address.

I loved what Lawrence said, along the lines of:

If you don't cry after watching it, it's okay. It doesn't mean you're more insensitive than I, it just means you're younger than I .

Here it is if you missed it last night. It's just beautiful.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/18/50-years-later-a-reinterpretation-of-jfks-famous-words/

  • 16 votes
#1.49 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:03 AM EST

How can we have Recovery when the Republican party is Sabotaging our Nation, they are a threat to our Economy, lets stop we the BS and start cleaning up GWB's mess !!!

  • 16 votes
#1.50 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 AM EST

Are the republicans really this dumb? Come on, listening to Sarah Palin!!!

  • 19 votes
#1.51 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 AM EST

White Collar Auto

"Ummm...folks?

Sequester was Obama's idea.

Why do you not hold this President responsible for anything?"

We did. In November. Next question?

  • 23 votes
#1.52 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 AM EST

I know the subject of addressing the President has come up before.

I know it has Grimey!

Sorry, it is still a MAJOR pet peeve of mine!

I don't remember the MSM excessively using the *Mr.* meme against any other President during my lifetime.

At the very least, it's LAZY reporting and disrespectful as far as I'm concerned!

  • 22 votes
#1.53 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:05 AM EST

jim-1455434

The "sequester" will be fully on Obama's back

========

Jim, honest question. How are can you claim the sequester be fully on Obama's back if the Congress also voted to put the mechanism into Law. The sequester isn't an Executive Order.

I have to laugh at this talking point that the sequester was the President's idea as though 'that' in and of itself somehow forced the GOP to put it into the legislation.

I mean, since when exactly was "...it was the President's idea therefore we had to do it..." the new mantra of the GOP?

  • 16 votes
#1.54 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:06 AM EST

Nah fascist, your vote was against a supposedly Republican "Do nothing" congress.

Those are Obama's words not mine.

Words mean something, you folks don't seem to get that here.

You didn't vote for Obama, you voted against Republicans.

Next question?

  • 18 votes
#1.55 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:07 AM EST

She's Screeching Back!

Sarah Palin To Speak At CPAC 2013

The news of Palin's upcoming appearance comes as the Republican Party looks to rebrand itself in the wake of the 2012 election.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/sarah-palin-cpac-2013_n_2711167.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Sarah Palin is Confused and Upset and Wearing Frosted Lipstick For Some Reason

She had this to say the last time she was on POX NEWS with Greta ...

"America know that we're living in a "perplexing time."

" I just cannot believe that the majority of Americans believe that incurring more debt is good for the economy, for our children's future, for job creators. I just cannot believe that the majority of Americans believe that it's OK to ignore the constitution and not have a budget."

Her America flag pin glinted mournfully on her lapel. She went on,

"Unfortunately we know what we will get with 4 more years of Obama. This really is a catastrophic setback to our economy and to any opportunity that we would have uh for Supreme Court justices to be appointed who would be strict adherents to the traditional interpretation of what our Constitution says. And what we'll get in 4 years is more debt because Barack Obama has been one to believe that government spending is the answer to the challenges facing America and our job creators. And I'm crossin' my fingers, Greta."

http://gawker.com/5958589/sarah-palin-is-confused-and-upset-and-wearing-frosted-lipstick-for-some-reason?tag=sarah-palin

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Yea, most American are too since Sarah's a taker. Maybe she should go back to that bright, glossy, lipstick.☺

  • 10 votes
#1.56 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:09 AM EST

RedDev @ 1.37: Your latest example please, And it better not be a LIE. I'll be here till noon waiting on you.

  • 3 votes
#1.57 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:10 AM EST

I hear ya Feisty...I do like what this guy says though...if he hears a reporter make the mistake he writes them a simple letter. Sounds like Kristen Welker (I honestly have no clue who that is) may have gotten one of those letters. LOL.

I actually learned something from reading that segment though. That when in the presence of a President, and when directly addressing him, you never use his name. So even asking a question to him like "President Obama, do you support XYZ" is wrong. It should be "Mr. President, do you support XYZ?". Now obviously in print or in the third person there are different rules, but to me I always try to be respectful regardless of who is President.

  • 10 votes
#1.58 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:11 AM EST

White Collar Auto

Ummm...folks?

Sequester was Obama's idea.

Why do you not hold this President responsible for anything?

Honestly, it doesn't matter who was behind the idea of sequestration. Flat out, it doesn't matter.

Enough Republicans in the House and Enough Democrats in the Senate said "HEY! THIS LOOKS LIKE AN AWESOME IDEA! If we make the situation THAT BAD, it will FORCE us to get along and create some reasonable measures because we don't want THIS."

Since we have people who are so distracted with casting blame for this moronic idea to draft legislation to create a self inflicted wound we'd rather not receive, so let's make some legislation we all agree we don't want to pass to force us to compromise.

Now that we've done that, and we still can't get along - big surprise - let's return to the tried and true method of finger pointing and blame casting. It's easier to play the "It's the fault of Democrats/Republicans/Spacemen/Communists/Turkeys" which is standard operating procedure.

Not only is our citizenry excusing our government for all playing kick the can for a day/month/decade, we're reduced to calling out ONE person who kicked the can, rather than everyone who kicked the can.

And then these are the same people who wonder why we have such serious issues, but they're only willing to address 50% of the issue because they can't touch the sacred cow of "their side".

Tell me WCA, can you list 1 good thing the President has done? Can you list 1 bad thing the Republicans have done? I see you wanting to blame the President, but you seem to be at a loss for words at how this passed the house and the Republicans just rolled over and gave the President "what he wanted". Don't you find it odd that the President just magicked this through the House?

  • 11 votes
#1.59 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:12 AM EST

Regarding the sequester, President Obama is playing chess, Republicans are playing checkers, and WCA is playing pocket pool.

Jim, sequester falls SQUARELY on the shoulders of the GOP. And WCA 'cause see he has broad shoulders and all...he got them from playing the "victim" so often.

The GOP stepped in it on this one, and is tracking it all over the place. They can't run, and they can't hide.

  • 19 votes
#1.60 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 AM EST

On the one hand, the senator has accomplished nothing during his brief career,

That same sentence could be used against obama before he was elected to his first term dotcha think? What's good for the goose.... etc.

President Obama will be the 1st serving U.S. President to receive Israel's presidential medal, when he visits Israel next month.

He really seems to be into collected medals that are undeserved and that he did nothing for. They give these things away in Cracker Jacks boxes now?

It is legitimate for the WH to have a back-up plan, in view of GOP's 4 year history of obstruction. And the 'draft language' was leaked. It happens. So what?

A backup plan that doesn't include border security, that doesn't include keeping these new 'residents' off the government dole (which is what LEGAL immigrants have to sign). What's the enforcement tactic they will use to collect these back taxes and fines? These are low-income and non-educated people. How are they going to pay this? Maybe not send as much back to Mexico? Yea right. How are they going to force them to learn english? Quite a few have been here for years and still don't know it, why would they learn it now since this entire @!$%#ing country caters to spanish speak (I'm hating you right now BofA)?

His backup plan is nothing short of an easy amnesty designed to cater to the uneducated for votes. ANY citizen that supports his plan is anti-american and you are spitting in the face of every immigrant that has gone through the process to come here legally and be a productive member of society. I happen to work with about a dozen immigrants from India and other parts of Europe that either have or are going through the process, and they are pissed at obama.

  • 6 votes
#1.61 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:14 AM EST

Hell, anyone who ever watched The West Wing should know it's Mr. President when addressing the President directly.

I am shocked that you folks are surprised that the media is this stupid.

See, the root cause of the problem is that Obama has tried to be buddies with the media instead of earning the respect that the office should command.

  • 9 votes
#1.62 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:15 AM EST

"Geez, the absolute BRILLIANCE of the #1 post of the day is simply too much for me to bear .... I wonder if johnny boy stayed up all night thinking up that one ?"

What Jimmy, are we a bit jealous? Snooze you lose there big bopper.

  • 10 votes
#1.63 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:16 AM EST

I don't remember the MSM excessively using the *Mr.* meme against any other President during my lifetime.

Was Dubya ever, ever addressed as Mr.?....Doubt it!

  • 11 votes
#1.64 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 AM EST

Mickey, NY

Jim, sequester falls SQUARELY on the shoulders of the GOP. And WCA 'cause see he has broad shoulders and all...he got them from playing the "victim" so often.

Really? Did this magical bill leapfrog the Senate and the President's signing pen? The Republicans just got together and gave birth to this during a House meeting?

The sequester is an idea so stupid it takes political enemies to create it, and then point fingers and bicker about who the father is.

I've seen more relevant and exciting "who's the father" storylines on Maury. I shouldn't be seeing them in relation to our government. At the very least when I'm watching Maury it's me admitting I'm shirking responsibility and acting like a moron and drinking prior to noon on my day off. I shouldn't have to do that when I'm watching C-SPAN.

  • 8 votes
#1.65 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 AM EST

Republican party wishes harm on our Nation, a vote to the GOP-TP is more wars to bankruptcy !!!

  • 9 votes
#1.66 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 AM EST

The sequester isn't an Executive Order.

Well put. These RWNJs need someone to blame for their failure to come up with a solution.

  • 10 votes
#1.67 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:19 AM EST

Hey WCA, sarcasm is the bodies natural defense against stupid. Wonder if Facist knows that....probably not...oh well, his Greatness, Obama the Magnificient is incapable of any wrong...

WCA, you're right, liberals are clearly LOW INFO voters...or in plain English, Fvcking Morons...

HAHAHAHAHA

  • 10 votes
#1.68 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:20 AM EST

See, the root cause of the problem is that Obama has tried to be buddies with the media instead of earning the respect that the office should command.

My plant died this week, that was Obama's fault too. And then Obama made me drop the canister of coffee and spill grounds everywhere. When I went to the store and they were out of the face wash I like, Obama was to blame. Then my DVR recorded the wrong show, and I swear to God Obama laughed and said, "My bad".

I'm sure you all get the drift.

  • 19 votes
#1.69 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:20 AM EST

"He really seems to be into collected medals that are undeserved and that he did nothing for. They give these things away in Cracker Jacks boxes now?"

Gee Alex, are you just sore because Israel didn't consult you before bestowing an honor on our nations President, or are you just a plain party hack that has no culture? This is an honor, it seems other countries know this president is doing a lot of good things for the world. Too bad you do not know anything but hate for the black guy in the white house.

  • 8 votes
#1.70 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:20 AM EST

Sounds like Kristen Welker (I honestly have no clue who that is) may have gotten one of those letters. LOL.

Night after night, she & Peter are on NBC Nightly News addressing the President as Mr. Obama this and Mr.Obama that...

Sorry, it's still disrespectful on the man and the office he holds!

Do you think for one second the Bush administration would of tolerated that? lol

  • 13 votes
#1.71 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:21 AM EST

White Collar Auto

This morning on the Drew and Mike Radio show in Detroit, they had a hilarious segment where they called some of the folks that showed up at the "Support Chris Dorner Rally" Most couldn't speak English and based on a photo essay of the group at the rally they concluded that they were mostly Low Income out of work people.

In other words, typical Obama supporters.

Stiff Collar,

But wait; have you seen Zimmerman lately?

Zimmerman has gained 105 pounds

Zimmerman has spent over $300,000 in donations over the last year and is desperate for more funds to finance his defense.

New forensic analysis “casts doubt on Zimmerman’s timeline on the night he shot and killed the unarmed teen.”

Zimmerman is suing NBC News. In the suit, Zimmerman claims NBC unfairly portrayed him as a “racist and predatory villain.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/14/1594051/whats-happened-in-the-trayvon-martin-case-since-you-stopped-paying-attention/
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That fat, lying, slob, pulled a hoax on people who donated to his cause allowed him to live high on the hog. Crime pays for Zimmerman. But, the right wing nuts and FOX see nothing wrong there.


  • 11 votes
#1.72 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:21 AM EST

While Grimey is correct regarding the etiquette when addressing any President, there is a big difference between how the Press addresses or discusses President Obama and how it addressed and discussed President Bush using the same criteria. Rarely was Bush ever referred to as Mr. Bush regardless of the circumstance. This was obvious to most liberal political watchers from the moment Candidate Obama became President Elect Obama. I excused it the first few weeks thinking the press was adjusting from candidate to president but it continued and continues today.

  • 11 votes
#1.73 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:21 AM EST

Obama is doing what he knows how to do, campaigning. He is a lousy president, a lousy leader, a lousy judge of character, but boy, he knows how to campaign, and the obamazombies eat it up. Pathetic.

And I stubbed my toe, then I almost ran over a squirrel, then I bumped the curb parking this morning- must be Bush's fault- but you get the drift....

  • 15 votes
#1.74 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:22 AM EST

@Allen-Omaha #1.54, So if Republicans vote against it, you liberals would be BITCHING aloud about obstruction ! So they went along with Obama's "leadership" on this issue .... and now you want to put the pressure on the Republicans ? Are you saying Obama should not be held responsible for HIS idea ??

  • 8 votes
#1.75 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:23 AM EST

I know just an isolated incident. I know it was totally done with innocence and/or ignorance of the law. I know she just couldn't contain herself with enthusiasm. No such thing as voter fraud.

"It wasn't a big deal," she said.

But election authorities say voting more than once, or in someone else's name, is a big deal because it is illegal and threatens the credibility of the nation's election system.

"It appears she not only attempted to vote more than once, but was actually successful at it and having those additional votes counted," Ohio Secretary of State John Husted, who is in charge of the state's elections, told Fox News.

"She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks. That would be someone who is an official in the elections process, using that position to commit a fraud. That is especially troubling to me, as the chief elections officer of the state, because it is my responsibility to make sure the system runs effectively, that it has integrity. When I find issues like this, I know that it undermines voter confidence in our elections, and we must pursue it."

Three other absentee ballots in the names of different people were submitted to the Board of Elections from Richardson's address on Nov. 1. Officials say the handwriting on those ballots is similar and that they were all received together, on the same day that Richardson's absentee ballot arrived at the office. Richardson maintains that some of the other voters live at her house.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/19/ohio-poll-worker-obama-supporter-investigated-for-potentially-voting-six-times/#ixzz2LMG8I0d1

  • 6 votes
#1.76 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:23 AM EST

@imnotlost - just for you fella. And speaking of lying, when are you ever, ever, going to post a comment with even a single kernel of truth? You certainly have a double standard there.

Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: "I don't think people would believe it's as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up."

Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years about Murdoch's cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a purely partisan operation, virtually every news story is actively spun by the staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, and that staffers at Fox News routinely operate without the slightest regard forfairness or fact checking. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/02/10/fox-news-insider-stuff-is-just-made-up/176184

  • 11 votes
#1.77 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:23 AM EST

Republicans are the party of Stupid, looks like they are still choking on the Election !!!

  • 7 votes
#1.78 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:25 AM EST

Repojam

Mickey, NY

Jim, sequester falls SQUARELY on the shoulders of the GOP. And WCA 'cause see he has broad shoulders and all...he got them from playing the "victim" so often.

Really? Did this magical bill leapfrog the Senate and the President's signing pen? The Republicans just got together and gave birth to this during a House meeting?

well the Monkey in Ny supports Obozo regardless. again, she falls into the Moron status. i have sympathy, its hard hanging with phd's all day knowing you're way smarter than them...right Will Hunting...sure d-bag...

  • 7 votes
#1.79 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:26 AM EST

Sure Sarah, I get the drift.

You proved my point.

You don't really hold the President responsible for anything.

Low information, indeed.

Thank you.

  • 13 votes
#1.80 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:30 AM EST

That same sentence could be used against obama before he was elected to his first term dotcha think? What's good for the goose.... etc.

No Alex, you can't compare President Obama and Senator Rubio.

President Obama won because he didn't behave like Rubio and the rest of the GOP does. President Obama above all else understands responsible governing, he understands the two parties need to work together in order for our nation to function; he gets it.

That isn't anywhere close to what Sen. Rubio is doing.

Night and Day.

  • 10 votes
#1.81 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:30 AM EST

FAIL! caesar...there you are, my little coward. Oh but you're gonna straighten that all out, right, by heading over to Burning Man this year.

Hey, now that you're here WCA has his pivot man. :)

Less "HAHAHA!" and more "ifrastructure", little boy. By the way, did you thank a liberal for your day of yesterday?

Sure you did...

  • 10 votes
#1.82 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:33 AM EST

WCA -- Whose responsibility is it to WRITE an alternative bill if the sequester is unacceptable? Where are they? Have they come up with a solution?

  • 13 votes
#1.83 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:34 AM EST

Mickey, NY

Careful Mickey, Culus Granitus will ward off your sarcasm with his stupidity.

  • 12 votes
#1.84 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:37 AM EST

Let the sequester happen... It will sooner or later anyway.

  • 7 votes
#1.85 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:38 AM EST

"Obama fully believes in the democratic process just so long as they give him what he wants."

No – he doing exactly what such great presidents as TR, Truman, and Reagan did when they had to deal with a do nothing congress ---- he’s going around them and taking his case to the public.

  • 9 votes
#1.86 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:38 AM EST

no no no WCA, lets just call them what they are...Fvcking morons...enough sugar coating.

  • 6 votes
#1.87 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:39 AM EST

DCIA, if they hadn't passed the sequester, you folks would be screaming "The Party of No".

It was Obama's idea. Period.

Congress gave the President what he wanted.

Isn't that what you all have been clamoring for?

The fact that you all think this tiny bit of cuts is going to have any effect on anything is beyond humorous.

You are all hypocrites.

  • 9 votes
#1.88 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:42 AM EST

Gee Alex, are you just sore because Israel didn't consult you before bestowing an honor on our nations President, or are you just a plain party hack that has no culture? This is an honor, it seems other countries know this president is doing a lot of good things for the world. Too bad you do not know anything but hate for the black guy in the white house.

Ah, the token racist charge from a liberal, the thread wouldn't be complete without it! But what can be expected from a single digit IQ skin bag like johntho. Obama hasn't done anything to 'earn' these medals he's been given. How long was he in office before he received the nobel peace prize? Hint: it was 2009. How exactly could he have done more in less than a year of presidency than 1000s of other people in the world that actually do deserve that?

No Alex, you can't compare President Obama and Senator Rubio.

Actually I can compare those two. Rubio is a senator right now, just like obama was five years ago. In other words, five years ago obama was in the same place that rubio is now. Obama hadn't done much in his career either, simply because, like rubio, he hadn't been a senator very long.

President Obama won because he didn't behave like Rubio and the rest of the GOP does. President Obama above all else understands responsible governing, he understands the two parties need to work together in order for our nation to function; he gets it.

In all honesty, he hasn't done very good at all trying to work with the right. If he doesn't like what he hears, he takes his ball and goes home. If you want a president that DID work down the aisle, there are some good ones before him like Clinton. Even though I didn't like Clinton (his defense cut backs got my dad laid off a 26 year job and me a separation from the USAF), he did a ton better than obama has done.

The problem with you lefties is you honestly just can not admit any wrong in this president. That in itself just cause you step back and re-think, and take a closer look at things. Everyone, regardless of race, religion, political affiliation, screws up. But you lefties have the rose colored glasses on and think obama is perfect. Just sick.

  • 4 votes
#1.89 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:43 AM EST

WCA,

As cute as your attempt to twist words is, your response made no sense. Let me give you some tips on being a smart ass, as I set the bar for it. If you want to twist a post to fit your agenda by assuming its opposite meaning, you have to make sure its opposite meaning fits your agenda. So unless you're concluding that my dead plant is honestly Obama's fault, you've failed miserably at your endeavor. Of course you probably DO think it's his fault, which just adds a whole new layer of crazy.

Honestly you give the man way to much credit. He's the POTUS, not Yoda. He can't wave his hand in front of the press and force them to disrespect him and/or the office.

  • 13 votes
#1.90 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:44 AM EST

Pat Boston MA.

TomasGrande, we as a nation can only hope that Senator McCain has fought his last battle.

Pat ,

It was so hilarious watching McCain ramble on and on; on useless, angry, tirade.

Daily Kos: Dear Senator McCain: STFU

Pressed by Gregory on what he meant by “a massive cover-up”, McCain could only sputter, “I'm asking you, do you care whether four Americans died? And shouldn't people be held accountable for the fact that four Americans died?"

"Well, what you said was the cover-up -- a cover-up of what?" Gregory pressed on.

"Of the information concerning the deaths of four brave Americans," McCain replied. "The information has not been forthcoming.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/18/1187897/-Dear-Senator-McCain-STFU

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For once, I actually applauded David Gregory.

Hat Tip: McCain, Hagel has nothing to do with Benghazi-gate Svengali-gate. He wasn't even in the Senate then; therefore you'll never know what the President did. Would you be surprised if the President was in the John?

Oh, and do you, McNasty, care about over 4 thousand armed forces killed and the millions maimed in the Iraqi War which was predicated on LIE????

  • 10 votes
#1.91 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:45 AM EST

Frist indeed... What a moron.

Perhaps the "bully' should just accept the consequences of his proposal of the sequester in order to get the GOP to cave previously, and stop blaming Congress.

  • 6 votes
#1.92 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:46 AM EST

Sarah-3043284

Honestly you give the man way to much credit. He's the POTUS, not Yoda.

Disappointing, that is. It's much funnier to imagine him as 2 1/2 feet tall, green and able to pass sweeping legislation and kill plants with the wave of a hand. He might even be able to extract the Tahoe I saw flipped over and in a ditch this morning on the way to work.

It also makes the people screaming that he's acting like an Emperor/Dictator/Communist/Despot/Chief Prophet/Messiah/Chief Unicorn Rider/etc sound much more credible.

  • 6 votes
#1.93 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:50 AM EST

WCA --

"When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the White House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy," Boehner said in an interview with CBS News on Monday evening.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/174925-boehner-i-got-98-percent-of-what-i-wanted-in-debt-deal#ixzz2LMPWvHop

Follow us: @thehill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

Here's more:

Republicans are starting to squirm and look for ways out of the upcoming sequester. And no wonder: If it goes into effect, it would deal another blow to the economy. It would be wildly unpopular. And, for all the GOP's efforts to pin it on President Obama, Republicans would be in for blame from the public—as they should be. After all, at the time the sequester was signed into law, John Boehner said he'd gotten 98 percent of what he wanted. So how do you solve a problem like the sequester? For Republicans, the answer is a foregone conclusion. You demand massive cuts to the programs that people rely on, and ultimately give in grudgingly on cosmetic compromises on a few teeny tiny revenue increases that Democrats and voters want and that would help the economy.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/07/1185294/-Republicans-start-to-squirm-over-the-sequester

Apparently Republicans are very worried this will have an impact on the economy.

  • 7 votes
#1.94 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:50 AM EST

[Careful Mickey, Cūlus Granitus will ward off your sarcasm with his stupidity.]

Too many scratches in that granite, he's more like a paper tiger. Wierd how he's taken to using the word "douchebag" in a vain attempt to get his point across lately. I'd say he's just frustrated that nobody takes the little coward seriously.?

It's funny how he "claims" to have me on "ignore"....I'm thinking that he truly doesn't mean what he thinks it means.

Right Burning Man?

  • 8 votes
#1.95 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:50 AM EST

tempusfugit1

"This POTUS would surround himself with Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs if it would distract the public ."

OK, Dopey. Now, grab you tools and head for the mine!

  • 8 votes
#1.96 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:51 AM EST

jim-1455434

@Allen-Omaha #1.54, So if Republicans vote against it, you liberals would be BITCHING aloud about obstruction ! So they went along with Obama's "leadership" on this issue .... and now you want to put the pressure on the Republicans ? Are you saying Obama should not be held responsible for HIS idea ??

===================

Well...Republican's didn't vote against it...at least not enough to not make it past their respective Chambers, so perhaps you should focus on what did happen vs what you think would have happened had something else happened.

You can continue to call it Obama's all you want to. The Sequester was a direct consequence of no deal emerging from the task of the Debt Commission. If as you claim Republican's were following the President's leadership, they would have reached consensus in the Commission and we wouldn't be here.

I'm saying I respect they way Law is made in the Country and this Law was made by the House of Representatives, the Senate and the White House...so who's 'idea' it was means 2 sh*ts after 535 members of Congress place a vote and the President signs it into Law.

  • 6 votes
#1.97 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:51 AM EST

All this finger pointing seems to be a cry for help. The people pointing fingers have obviously done all they can and now they are asking someone else to fix the situation.

Now is the time to prove your leadership abilities or STFU.

Since no one in DC has the ability to lead we will see the sequester come in to effect. They may kick the can but it will happen. Crappy leadership is crappy.

  • 3 votes
#1.98 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:52 AM EST

He can't wave his hand in front of the press and force them to disrespect him and/or the office.

Honestly, I don't believe you folks think before you post.

Sarah, Personal respect is earned, not forced or demanded.

The office of the President is respected by the media and most Americans.

Now, see if you can figure out the difference.

as I set the bar for it.

You give yourself way to much credit.

  • 5 votes
#1.99 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:54 AM EST

WCA & Caesar-

Do you think if you repeat the "Democrats are Low Information voters" talking point often enough people will actually believe you?

Which candidate won the majority of those voters with advanced degrees like Masters, MBAs, an PhDs? President Obama.

Which candidate's team said they wouldn't be ruled by fact checkers? Mitt Romney

Which candidate failed basic math with comments about the "47%"? Mitt Romney

Which VP candidate had an "excellent" budget plan that ignored basic math? Paul Ryan

Which party refused to accept and even ridiculed the statistical analysis of the polls done by Nate Silver? Romney, Ryan and the Republicans

Which cable news channel has the least-informed or most ill-informed viewers? Fox News

I think the FACTS are clear - the Republican party is undeniably the home of the Low-Information voter.

  • 13 votes
#1.100 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:54 AM EST

Hey moron who surrounds yourself with more people in uniform for scare tactics -- YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!!! Reducing the rate of spending increases are not to be confused with spending reductions. You disgust me and you disgrace this country. God help us. He is the leader of the zombie apocalypse.

  • 6 votes
#1.101 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:55 AM EST

Sarah, Personal respect is earned, not forced or demanded.

And WCA would know a lot about this topic - look how often he demands respect, but rarely, if ever, gets it.

  • 10 votes
#1.102 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:56 AM EST

Well DCIA, I clearly have won this debate with you. You keep coming back without a single actual response to the fact that it was the Presidents idea.

And now you are citing the opinion of the DailyKos!

Thanks for playing.

  • 5 votes
#1.103 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:57 AM EST

I'm just SO confused:

Didn't Boehner walk out of the vote in 2011 and state CLEARLY and DISTINCTLY for the cameras that he got 98% of what he wanted?

All of that AND a downgrade with S&P was 98% of what he wanted and now it's President Obama's sequester?

Priceless. You seriously can't make this stuff up!

but if you don't believe me, just watch your own lying eyes:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-20086598/boehner-i-got-98-percent-of-what-i-wanted/

  • 14 votes
#1.104 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:59 AM EST

Nice try WCA, but no soup for you. It is up to CONGRESS to come up with an alternate bill. However they are on Vacation. The president cannot do this one by executive order. I not only think you are wrong on whose idea it is, but you are definitely off the mark on who is responsible for fixing it. As far as I am concerned let the sequester happen. It will be the republicans in 2014 and 2016 that take the heat for it. Your worse then a hypocrite as you double down on dumb, as well as being a hypocrite.

  • 9 votes
#1.106 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:04 AM EST

And WCA would know a lot about this topic - look how often he demands respect, but rarely, if ever, gets it

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

Careful Red, this is around the time poor little WCA's lower lip starts to quiver while he wipes his nose on his starched white sleeve! LMAO!

  • 10 votes
#1.107 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:07 AM EST

[Fvcking morons]

Good GOD! Burning Man has resorted to writing in olde tyme Roman letters!

[Well DCIA, I clearly have won this debate with you. Thanks for playing.]

Clearly you haven't, but it's Captain Cupholder's way of turning tail and running. When in doubt, RUN! Some "super hero" you turned out to be.

Maybe FAIL! caesar will hold that bag you're carrying your ass in...he's used to it by now.

  • 8 votes
#1.108 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:08 AM EST

WCA,

The office of the President doesn't need to earn respect. It gets it. As that is OUR President, who WE as a nation elected. When they call him Mr. Obama, they aren't just disrespecting him, they're disrespecting the office. As you do, everyday. You can disagree with his policies, but get over it. As for the press, if they're such amatuers that they can't address him properly, they don't deserve to get called on or have their questions answered.

Nice try at deflecting from your delusions, however the truth remains. Do you understand how crazy you sound when you accuse Obama of being the reason people disrespect the office? What does he do, pull them aside and tell them, "You better NOT respect me or I'm sending you to Guantanamo". I mean, I thought you guys were all about personal responsibility. Are they not responsible for their actions? It doesn't matter if Obama goes in their drinking a 40oz and tap dancing while wearing nothing but a pair of Santa boxer shorts, it's still the reporters choice to address him properly or not.

You give yourself way to much credit.

Always. The only thing that exceeds my skills at being a smart ass, is my ego.

Repo,

How cool would that be. "These are not the drones you are looking for."

  • 10 votes
#1.109 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:10 AM EST

No WCA you have not won anything. It's not a game. What part of Congress signed onto it do you not understand? An agreement was made with the idea they would have time to come up with alternatives to that sequester. Thus far they've failed to do that.

Republicans are on record saying the sequester would be bad for the economy. Why are they not doing something about that?

  • 8 votes
#1.110 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:12 AM EST

Dont_carry_it_all

Republicans are on record saying the sequester would be bad for the economy. Why are they not doing something about that?

So you rather have Repubs fix this? If not I suggest you try motivating your party vs. slamming the other.

  • 4 votes
#1.111 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:18 AM EST

Do you think if you repeat the "Democrats are Low Information voters"

i said nothing about democrats TNS. i say liberals...and there is a difference..

Hey TNS, what were the numbers Obama won by again...and out of only a third of the voting populace...seems your Emperor aint as great as scream about.

Which cable news channel has the least-informed or most ill-informed viewers? Fox News

that would NBC and you know it..in fact FR itself is full of low info idiots..like Bev and Fisty, Monkey etc

  • 4 votes
#1.112 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:19 AM EST

Morgs- Democrats have presented an alternative. Republicans have not.

  • 8 votes
#1.113 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:21 AM EST

Republicans have already moved away from Reagan on policy. They are far to the right of him. But they cannot distance themselves from him rhetorically, because really, who else do they have?

Are they the party of Bush? No, the last thing they want is to be tied to the most disastrous administration in recent (and possibly distant) American history.

Are they the party of Nixon who left office in disgrace or his successor Ford? No, I cannot ever remember anyone proudly claiming the legacy of Gerald Ford.

Are they the party of Eisenhower? No, they cannot stomach his stern admonitions against embracing the military-industrial complex.

Are they the party of Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover who presided over the roaring 20's and helped to usher in The Great Depression, leaving a country in ruin for a Democrat (FDR) to clean up? No, that story is far too close to our recent history.

Are they the party of William Howard Taft? I know what you're thinking. Who the heck is William Howard Taft?

Are they the party of Teddy Roosevelt? The fierce anti-monopolist and government interventionist? A conservationist and flaming liberal by today's standards?

Are they party of Abraham Lincoln? They would surely like to be, but nobody can maintain a straight face through that joke, and none of the other 19th century Republican presidents carry much gravitas, even if you ignore how opposite the bookends of Lincoln and Roosevelt were from today's GOP.

So Reagan it must be. He is the only Republican president of any notoriety and minimal infamy whose most central policies and beliefs they do not today disown. Any differences (and there are many), they can easily patch over with their mythologized version.

  • 5 votes
#1.114 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:22 AM EST

Jesus H. Christ WCA, Congress - specifically the House of Representatives - is required by the Constitution to originate revenue bills. Period. The President proposes, Congress disposes.

Sequestration is the law of the land as written and approved by the House, approved by the Senate, and signed into law by the President. That's how it works, and no amount of twisting by a flyweight like yourself is going to alter the facts one whit.

You still can't explain what happened in your world, where the union thugs beat the hell out of your vaunted white collar and wingtip boys in the executive suites and boardrooms.

Now, run away like you always do when you've dug yourself into a hole.

  • 12 votes
#1.115 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:25 AM EST

[i said nothing about democrats TNS. i say liberals...and there is a difference..]

And the sad part is, you simply don't know the difference.

  • 5 votes
#1.116 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:26 AM EST

Holy crap.

It takes at least a half dozen of you folks to keep spewing the talking points in the hopes that maybe you will believe it.

Bottom line is that you folks hold this President responsible for NOTHING. It's always someone else's fault and you have been playing that game since 2007.

It's gotten old and stale, just like most of you.

What's funny about this is, that I kept reading last Friday about the horror of FR changing the format here and you all will be stuck in chat rooms only talking with people that agree with you.

In reality that's all you really want, so why so upset over the change?

  • 3 votes
#1.117 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:37 AM EST

DCIA -

Democrats have presented an alternative. Republicans have not.

Nearly 100% everything submitted for the past 4 years regardless of party has been met with obstruction from the other side. I am guessing this is because the writers will not budge or compromise so the opposing has no option but to block one way or another. SSDD

  • 1 vote
#1.118 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:39 AM EST

It takes at least a half dozen of you folks to keep spewing the talking points in the hopes that maybe you will believe it.

*SNAP*

And there goes the quivering lower lip...

No one can put the "V" in victim like you can WCA!

Still LMFAO@U little buddy!

  • 11 votes
#1.119 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:45 AM EST

WCA comes here PARROTING RUBIO when he writes:

Sequester was Obama's idea.

I'd say you're spewing talking points.

In addition to that, good Republican that you are, you're playing the victim card. You won't admit YOUR party AGREED to the sequester and will be held responsible for not coming up with an alternative solution. As David and I have already pointed out, CONGRESS writes bills, not the President.

  • 9 votes
#1.121 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:52 AM EST

[And there goes the quivering lower lip...]

WCA and FAIL! caesar, you have become nothing more than cry babies...

On a lighter note, I hear FoxNation is reopening their comments section. I'm sure someone will save them a seat.

  • 9 votes
#1.122 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:55 AM EST

OK, let me just make sure I've got this straight: If President Obama doesn't get something done -- even if it's because his congressional opponents are blocking him from doing it, and even if they're doing it for no good reason -- it's due to his bad leadership, but if he tries to do anything at all, regardless of how he does it and if there's precedent, he's somehow always overreaching, abusing his office, and trying to make himself emperor? Yeah, right.

As for the sequester, both sides agreed to it -- that much can be proved -- but when it comes to solving it, the attempts always come up against the same problems, the same obstructionism, and it's always from the same side (the right). And they have the gall to try to lay it all on the president? Come on, at least stay in the realm of realism and try blaming your congressional counterparts!

Hypocrite, thy name is Republican.

  • 10 votes
#1.124 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:09 PM EST

Johntho

Frist. Tee hee

Way to make good use of it....

(what a joke)

  • 2 votes
#1.125 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:22 PM EST

Pat Boston MA.

From the article, "The GOP needs to move away from Ronald Reagan, especially as it relates to dealing with policy issues 25 years after he left office."

To bad we didn't do that 30 years ago, this country would be in a lot better shape had we not been introduced to supply side economics which has always failed.

_________________

Johntho: Perfectly stated.

Well, not PERFECTLY....

If it were 'perfectly' stated he would have used TOO rather than TO... (what can you expect from the 'First,Tee Hee' poster...)

But hey Pat... you knew that, right?

LOL!

(way TOO easy!)

  • 2 votes
#1.126 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:33 PM EST

No one can put the "V" in victim like you can WCA!

funny coming from FISTY... Clown nose anyone?

  • 2 votes
#1.127 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:43 PM EST

Sicko, I did it for your reading pleasure, with your dimished IQ it is something you can understand.

  • 5 votes
#1.128 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:49 PM EST

Mickey, NY-

On a lighter note, I hear FoxNation is reopening their comments section.

Perhaps Megyn Kelly will be there!!!

You here that RWNJ's? Megyn Kelly!!!

I'll hold the door open for our RW freinds.

Salud

  • 9 votes
#1.129 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:52 PM EST

Say sicko, I guess because I used to, instead of too, you didn't understand what I wrote. Here let me make it simple for you. Saint Ronny is an example of what is wrong with the republican party today, only it has gone far past the damage that he did, to the total devastation that you propose by being stupid. Just naked ignorance and total disregard for your fellow citizens in lieu of big corporation and yes the evil rich.

  • 7 votes
#1.130 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:02 PM EST

O.K. RedDev: You're officially in the same class as Feisty and Beverly and David Walker. I asked you for a credible source and you post an article by by a far left creep who plays all the leftist media circuits and has no credibility. How do I know this? He quotes a "former" Fox News employee (we'll never get that name) and refers repeatedly to them as "the source". You can't trust any reporter or blogger who does this, and you are in that classification. Don't bother me again until you catch a FNC reporter redhanded. BTW, Obama told a whopper when he was campaigning about transparency, or did Fox make that up.

  • 2 votes
#1.131 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:10 PM EST

Tony_Baloney . . .

Excellent post at 1.124 and spot on. The GOP gripes when the President takes vacation and states he should be in Washington leading, then when he does make proposals, they snipe about how it is Congress' place to make them.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

  • 5 votes
#1.132 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:16 PM EST

You know the Republican Party is getting very very worried about the mid-term elections if they have decided to start to sell Saint Ronald Reagan down the river.

Who knows, maybe by the time the 2016 primaries come around, they'll get rid of the Tea Party and conservative pacs and decide that being in government actually means governing, instead of just obstructing and destroying.

  • 2 votes
#1.133 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:11 PM EST

I asked you for a credible source and you post an article by by a far left creep who plays all the leftist media circuits and has no credibility

Well, I guess it is a trip to the woodshed for me for a severe lashing from imnotlost. Well LOST, hate to tell you but several credible sources and former Fox employees have been interviewed and they all make the same claim. Documentaries exist supporting the same claim. Canada will not allow Fox News to be aired in their country because they do not follow journalistic principles. The latest PPP poll clearly shows Fox leads the pack as the least trusted news site. Yet, despite all that, NONE of it is credible in your distorted view. The point here is Roger Ailes could tell you he publishes propaganda, and you still wouldn't believe it. So what is the point of asking me for proof?

  • 4 votes
#1.134 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:40 PM EST

Oh, and LOST, thanks for playing this week on "You're a DumbFux Loser".

  • 3 votes
#1.135 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:45 PM EST

I have mixed feelings about the President appearing to be campaigning for passage of his agenda, rather than trying to work with Congress to achieve the possible.

But when it becomes impossible for the divided Congress to pass any meaningful legislation, it is easy to understand his strategy of using the bully pulpit to influence public opinion and put pressure on Congress to do something.

Unfortunately, Republican members of the House, particularly those from increasingly conservative, gerrymandered districts, are looking over their shoulders at potential Tea Party primary election challengers if they stray from ideological purity. And that is why I believe President Obama's progressive agenda is in for a rough slog.

  • 2 votes
#1.136 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:56 PM EST

Joe from Albany quote mines the Washington Post Fact Checker to suggest that they indicated that they assigned all blame to Obama for the sequester. However, that is false, as another, more pertinent, Fact Checker (involving responsibility rather than just who came up with the idea) entry indicated:

No matter who first came up with the idea, it took bipartisan votes to make it a reality. In other words, the sequester was part of a negotiation in which the two sides were haggling over an enforcement trigger that would cause pain on both sides. We examined this question when we awarded Two Pinocchios to the Mitt Romney campaign for trying to blame the defense cuts contained in the sequester only on President Obama.

As noted above, the Obama administration originally wanted the trigger to hinge on repeal of Bush tax cuts on the wealthy. Republicans responded by saying the trigger should be balanced by repeal of the individual mandate in Obama’s health-care law.

Ultimately, that was too much for both sides, so they settled on security spending (pain for Republicans) balanced by nonsecurity spending (pain for Democrats). But the fact remains that both sides agreed to take this step together.

In other words, Republicans cannot hide from the consequences of their own actions, especially because at the time they crowed that they had won a great victory.

Here, for instance, is a statement by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), chairman of the Budget Committee, about the law that contained the sequester: “The Budget Control Act represents a victory for those committed to controlling government spending and growing our economy.”

More to the point, I see no Democrats nor the Administration saying "let the sequester happen". But I do see fiscally illiterate, self declared conservative Republicans, including some posters here, cheering the prospect on. Thus, the reality is, if the sequester happens, one side, the Teapublicans, own it. Why? Because they are the only fools actually cheering it on.

Cut spending, raise revenues, all else is bull feces.

  • 2 votes
#1.137 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:59 PM EST

And now there is this:

And honestly, it's a little misleading, because like I said, I only see members of one party (not all Republicans by any means, but several of the truly silly Tea Party types) cheering the upcoming sequester on.

    #1.138 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:05 PM EST

    Stupid talkback doesn't let me keep links in a post. I linked to the inaugural Factcheck "Party Line" post regarding the "Obamaquester".

      #1.139 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:12 PM EST

      Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL......"Perhaps, the folks who cover him should try calling him President Obama rather than Mr. Obama! Showing respect to the man and the office he won tends to go a long way..."

      I have the deepest respect for the Office of the President of the United States of America, however, I have NO RESPECT for the PERSON sitting in the Oval Office.

      MR. Obama is nothing more than NARCISSISTIC and is NOT LOOKING OUT for the people of the United States of America. He is only looking out for his special interest groups and campaign contributors. His 2nd term goal and primary agenda is to destroy any opposition to lay the ground work for a FAILED Ex-SofS run in 2016.

      GET IT ?

      • 1 vote
      #1.140 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:13 PM EST

      Obama II - off to a grand start!

      Leaks - corruption continues to rise to the top - like a turd in the toilet

      Gas prices - astronomical for a February

      Food prices - rising (tried buying beef or poultry recently)

      Taxes - increased - and more to come

      Unemployment - oh no - up again?

      "We got a little more work to do" "Can't go back now"

      Barack and Michelle - on separate vacations - no money issues when you're on the tax payers dime

      What economy problems?

      Nice!

      • 1 vote
      #1.141 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:54 PM EST

      The start of 2013 has been tough for consumers. Many saw a chunk missing from their take-home pay when payroll taxes increased. Now they're getting hit at the gas pump, with fuel prices climbing by nearly 14% since Jan. 1

      There's one trend analysts are agreeing on: Prices aren't likely to reverse direction anytime soon.

      • 1 vote
      #1.142 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:00 PM EST

      No, the President will actually receive Israel's highest decoration. It's kind of like that decoration he gave to that brave Marine last week.

        #1.143 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:47 AM EST
        Reply

        "There's a lot of ill will towards Senator Hagel because when he was a Republican, he attacked President Bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since Herbert Hoover, said the surge was the worst blunder since the Vietnam War, which is nonsense, and was anti his own party and people. You can disagree, but if you're disagreeable, people don't forget that." - Senator John McCain, FOX News, 2/14/2013

        "99 percent of it has to do with the positions Senator Hagel has taken." - Senator John McCain, Meet The Press, 2/17/2013

        What's the matter, Senator McCain, are you too chicken @!$%# to stand by your own words? Thursday it was personal when you spoke to FOX News but Sunday on Meet The Press it was about his positions? Well, which is it?

        • 21 votes
        Reply#2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:17 AM EST

        Hagel should never have been nominated. His nomination hearing was a pathetic display of incompetence. Never has a nominee spent more time saying he didn't remember, he couldn't recall, and I don't think I said that. If this is the best Obama can come up with for Secretary of Defense might I suggest Elmer Fudd? Liberals are in support only because Obama nominated him, and not because he is infinitely qualified. I wish we could have a Hagel nomination from a Republican president so the country could see the truth behind liberal support and the fact Democrats will be holding their nose when they vote.

        • 13 votes
        #2.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:49 AM EST

        It's a known fact Da Noid, when tea people republicans go on Fox they show their real hate, when they're on any other outlet they just pander.

        • 7 votes
        #2.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:57 AM EST

        Mosephus, "Tea people Republicans" HATE our country NOT having a budget at any time during Obama's first term and a $16.5++ trillion national debt with no logical plan from Obama to bring it under control.

        "Tea people Republicans" HATE that our children and grandchildren will be saddled with all this debt they inherited ... with a large part of it coming under Obama's watch.

        • 6 votes
        #2.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:29 AM EST

        Americans HATE that our children and grandchildren will be saddled with all this debt they inherited ... with a large part of it coming under Obama's watch...

        • 6 votes
        #2.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:36 AM EST

        Obama returns to the bully pulpit, eh? I suppose there's still some vestige of America he hasn't set upon the path to destruction.

        For all you extremely gullible dullards that voted for this arrogant and incompetent fool, consider this:

        "President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don't they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents."
        -- Xavier Lerma
        Russian columnist for Pravda
        Source: Obama's Soviet Mistake, Pravda, 19.11.2012

        This is the view shared by much of the rest of the world but don't look for anything but slobbering praise from the socialistic American media.

          #2.5 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:02 PM EST
          Reply

          "Hubris". Watching Rachel Maddow's special, "Hubris", last night made me angry all over again; just as reading the book did; just as in 2002, listening to the steady Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz drum beats of war did. I remember listening to their dead-pan delivery of fear and wondering why those phrases made little sense in connection with reports, discussion, everything previously known. It made no sense but from the very first words spoken, it was obvious that starting a war in Iraq had been decided; only the date remained a question.

          For me, the dots never connected despite the Bush/Cheney efforts. Why the rush? Why did Bush/Cheney demand a vote in Congress just before the election? What was the hurry? Why was the Bush Administration so resistant to allowing the International Inspectors time? Those inspectors had not found anything yet. Had 9/11 so frozen us in fear that war, maybe many wars, were now acceptable?

          We knew a few years after "Shock & Awe" that we had been lied to, that the entire war in Iraq was based on nothing but lies and trumped up, cherry-picked intelligence. Most republicans fully supported the idea of war in Iraq; democrats were divided but the false urgency to authorize war powers, fear, and the politics of the 9/11 aftermath pushed Congress to act quickly and put us on the neocons pre-planned path to war. Congress had been led down this fake path before, in Vietnam; too bad so many forgot.

          What if, in 2002, Senators McCain, Graham, and the others who demand answers regarding Benghazi--while ignoring the intelligence reports, the facts known to date--had been as demanding before we went to war in Iraq? What if every senator and representative had read the NIE report that determined there was insubstantial evidence to support the claims that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction? What if Senator McCain had not been so willing to accept the often repeated "smoking gun" that could be a "mushroom cloud"? What if Senator McCain and others had simply slowed the march to war down by demanding what they demand now--more information?

          Senator McCain in his steady Benghazi political game often says he cares about the four Americans who died in Benghazi and wants answers. I do not doubt that he cares but I doubt that he is interested in answers. What if Senator McCain had demanded as much information in 2002 and early 2003 as he demands now? He never once asked the tough questions of Bush/Cheney; he never once demanded to see ALL the proof, not just some, he never once questioned a new war?

          In short, how can McCain claim to care about the four Americans who died in Libya yet have put so little thought to a pre-emptive war in Iraq and the likely death of many Americans? 4,486 dead Americans; over 32,000 wounded Americans; over 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians--men, women, children; over a million Iraqi refugees displaced by war; $3 trillion cost to our Treasury, borrowed money. All because Senator McCain could not be bothered with the details, could not be bothered to challenge, to question, to demand. McCain was not alone in this failure but his high profile position on Benghazi makes him the focus of his prior failure. Where were you, Senator McCain? Did "Hubris" get in your way then just as it does now?

          • 33 votes
          #3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:18 AM EST

          Jody, there are times when I fully agree but wish there was a way to poke holes in the argument, to find some grey area that could open the door to forgiveness. Sadly, I find that narrative to be a closed door. Too many people have died and too many bodies have been shattered to pick up the pieces. In time another memorial will be built and hands will slide across the names of what should not have been.

          • 19 votes
          #3.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:36 AM EST

          Jody, as your gang as said here many times lately.....Why are you living in the past?

          • 13 votes
          #3.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:38 AM EST

          Spot on Jody!

          ...and the media is concerned about lack of transparency from President Obama, i.e. golf game!

          They were scared to death of the Dubya/Cheney machine......afraid to challenge or question them on anything......

          Outing a CIA agent......destroying her hussband, destroying anyone who asked anything.....

          I too was angered all over again last evening, watching Hubris. Kodus to Isikoff, Corn, and Maddow!

          • 17 votes
          #3.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:40 AM EST

          I stand and salute you Jody!

          So many questions, so few answers...

          • 15 votes
          #3.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:45 AM EST

          White Collar Auto

          Jody, as your gang as said here many times lately.....Why are you living in the past?

          Tell me WCA, are the families of the dead living in the past. Are the horrendously wounded living in the past? Too little shock and awe for you? Wars are over when the last soldier joins his comrades and the reasons for that conflict can and should be argued until that grey day.

          • 14 votes
          #3.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:47 AM EST

          WCA shows such disrespect for the people who died because of a lie. Typical right wing nutter, all for war, no matter what the excuse is, and they care not a whit for the people who serve, who are wounded, who die.

          BCWC! LOVE the pup! Landseer?

          • 17 votes
          #3.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:51 AM EST

          BCWC! LOVE the pup! Landseer?

          bingo!

          • 6 votes
          #3.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:52 AM EST

          WCA why don't you tell the thousands of military widows/widowers and children of over 4000 of our soldiers who died in Iraq to just get over it then? How about the tens of thousands who came back with debilitating injuries, whose lives and futures will never be the same, that it's not worth talking about. And how about those deficits you claim to hate - billions of dollars every month - off the books - no big deal, right? I didn't even mention the 100K+ Iraqis killed, because I doubt that you even cared that much about them ever.

          • 16 votes
          #3.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:52 AM EST

          Great post, Jody.

          The Iraq War was a glaring example of the conservative's favored approach of making decisions then trying to find "facts" to support their position.

          I also wish that the "intelligence" that led to the Iraq War was given half the scrutiny given to Benghazi.

          The Iraq War was ill-conceived, mismanaged, and unnecessary. It led to a great sacrifice of blood and treasure, all based on lies and deception.

          "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana

          • 13 votes
          #3.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:53 AM EST

          BCWC: BEAUTIFUL! I adore Newfies.

          • 7 votes
          #3.10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:53 AM EST

          BCWC, NDD et. al.

          It sucks when your own words come back to bite you, don't they?

          • 7 votes
          #3.11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:57 AM EST

          Jody,

          According to presidential historians, George W. Bush ranks with Johnson, Pierce and Buchannan, among the worst who performed in that office.

          And yet, McCain wants to block Hegal from being Secretary of Defense, because he was a critic of George W. Wouldn't you think it would be point in Hegal's favor: he showed good judgement to disagree, in his time, with a leader history is judging so harshly?

          • 14 votes
          #3.12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:01 AM EST

          WCA.....just don't get it do you? On your own point...isn't Benghazi in the past? Super stupid you. Go Jody!!

          • 17 votes
          #3.13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:07 AM EST

          Ok WCA, you've proved it...you're an idiot. Now get back to work. I'm tired of my taxpayer dollars paying for you to freeload.

          p.s. Write that love note to Presidemnt Obama Yet?

          • 12 votes
          #3.14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:07 AM EST

          Jody, you say it so well.

          Including "the false urgency to authorize war powers, fear, and the politics of the 9/11 aftermath pushed Congress to act quickly."

          That is how the Right Wing pushes their anti-democratic agenda on us. As I now know, Naomi Klein documented their strategy of false urgency and panic in her book "Shock Doctrine".

          Yes, Ms. Maddow is doing us a great service via "Hubris".

          • 11 votes
          #3.15 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:19 AM EST

          WCA, simple answer: because 4,486 Americans are dead; 4,486 fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, sons and daughters are dead--and no one, not McCain, not Graham, not the other Benghazi witch hunters who are focused on 4 dead Americans bothered to ask if the Iraq war was really necessary? If we do not learn from our mistakes, we are doomed to repeat them.

          • 13 votes
          #3.16 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:35 AM EST

          I didn't watch too much of this because I tend to vomit when listening to Maddow for more than a few minutes, so I am just going off promos, what I saw briefly and what has been posted on here. It seems to me that since a certain general has supported Obama and Hagel, you are giving him a pass or going to make excuses on his involvement. Another hypocrisy moment brought to you by the left wing, progressive socialist division of the Barack "Jim Jones" Obama Cult Society zombie squad whose mindless goal is to devour everything sacred to this country and poop it out their butts.

          http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/colin-powell-continues-defend-wmd-lies-ira

          GREGORY: The renewed debate about Iraq is also occurring, the New York Times write about-- writes about that today. And his-- in his memoir, he writes something very pointed about the Iraq war. He writes, "it all comes down to the fact we were asked to vote on a resolution based on half-truths, untruths and wishful thinking. I voted for this resolution that gave the president the authority to go to war in Iraq if all diplomatic efforts were exhausted and failed. Unfortunately, it was not his intention to exhaust all diplomatic efforts.” He is talking about the diplomatic efforts you were engaged in as Secretary of State in the run-up to the war in Iraq.

          GEN. POWELL: I would disagree with this characterization. We were basing all of our actions on a national intelligence estimate that the Congress asked for and was provided to the Congress by the CIA. And all of us in the Bush administration at that time accepted the judgment of our 16 intelligence communities. I presented it to the U.N. Three months before I presented it to the U.N., Congress passed a resolution, also supported by Senator Hagel and many other senators that would give the president the authority to go to war. They weren’t half-truths is what we were being told by the intelligence community. We subsequently found out that a lot of that information was not accurate and that is very unfortunate but that’s the way it unfolded.

          GREGORY: Was he wrong on Iraq?

          GEN. POWELL: With respect to what?

          GREGORY: With respect to what he ultimately called a huge foreign policy blunder?

          GEN. POWELL: He-- that’s his characterization and if people want to challenge his characterization, they will have that opportunity during the confirmation.

          GREGORY: In your judgment, was he wrong on Iraq?

          GEN. POWELL: I would not have called it that. I would have said that what I think was wrong was the president had more than sufficient basis to believe that there were weapons of mass destruction that were a danger to the world and the possibility of those weapons going to terrorists. And so, he undertook military action. I think that was the correct thing to do and it was well supported by the intelligence. I think we did not execute the operation well. Once Baghdad fell, there was a feeling that well that was the end of it. It was not the end of it. That was just the beginning of it.

          • 3 votes
          #3.17 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:35 AM EST

          "According to presidential historians, George W. Bush ranks with Johnson, Pierce and Buchannan, among the worst who performed in that office."

          It's a little soon to rank him with all presidents before him but he is easily the worst president in my lifetime and I'm 66 years old. I have no doubt he will wind up in the bottom 10 of all time.

          • 11 votes
          #3.18 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:39 AM EST

          Watching Hubris served as a potent reminder of what a masterful liar Dick Cheney was. The guy could sit down in a conversational voice like someone sitting at your coffee table and tell lie after lie and be totally believable while telling it. No choked up emotional shilling that is easy to dismiss. Just direct conversational lies all dressed up as "straight talk." The only give away is that he doesn't look the camera directly in the eye but since he is being interviewed, it is hard to tell if he is diverting his eyes or looking at his interviewer as he speaks.

          • 9 votes
          #3.19 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:57 AM EST

          Hey Al -- What about Powell???

          • 4 votes
          #3.20 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:02 AM EST

          Thank You Jody!!!

          • 5 votes
          #3.21 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:09 AM EST

          Al-Dud and Jody, thank you. You called out WCA far more deftly than I could have.

          • 5 votes
          #3.22 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:14 PM EST
          Reply

          Democrats and Republicans have differing philosophies of government.

          How do we citizens view government?

          The way we interpret the duties of citizens, government, associations and businesses is the foundation of how we co-exist.

          As individual citizens, does one do only what they want to do without taking others into account?

          What is the core function of government?

          Government is the mechanism that allows our society and culture to prosper, thrive and grow. We need to have some structure or what will become of our society?

          There are over 350 million people living in the US now. How are we to deal with the needs of all of us without an institution like "government"? Who or what will provide the police, firefighters, air traffic controllers, teachers and protect us with the military?

          What do you not want the "government" to do for you? Who will do it instead?

          Who will ensure the roads and bridges are safe? Who will establish safety standards for all the things we use and eat ensuring that our society and culture operates with efficiency?

          What services are you willing to do without?

          Are you willing to relinquish these duties our government performs for us to those whose primary function is profit?

          Our government works only when, as President Lincoln said at Gettysburg, a "government of the people, by the people, for the people".

          • 17 votes
          Reply#4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:19 AM EST

          Steve, you would enjoy a book written by my former Representative, Tom Allen, in which he diagnoses the source of partisan rancor between Democrats and Republicans as stemming from a disagreement over the role of government in our lives. I heard him give a book talk on it at the library the other night. I would give you the title, but I don't want to be flagged for "advertising." I have no connection with the author, BTW, besides voting for him.

          • 5 votes
          #4.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:09 AM EST
          DamyouDeleted
          Reply

          I'm still in the ICU after watching last week's SOTU.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:22 AM EST

          Living in the past. The rest of us are moving forward. In fact, the entire Congress is on vaca until next monday. Too bad you tripped over the republican lies and are injured.

          • 15 votes
          #5.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:28 AM EST

          mark...and I suppose all those "dedicated" Dims stayed behind in DC "looking out for us". You are one huge delusional misguided and uninformed lemming. ROFLMFAO.

          • 6 votes
          #5.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:59 AM EST

          What's a matter alan_static can't handle the truth. Don't feel bad tea people republicans never could handle the truth. Nothing feels better to a tea people republican than a good lie.

          • 9 votes
          #5.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 AM EST
          DamyouDeleted
          Reply

          President Obama:

          Democrats must regain the HOR. We must also elect governors and majorities in State Houses. If not in 2014, then in 2016.

          Republicans must be disabled from wrecking our democracy and impeding our progress.

          • 15 votes
          Reply#6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:24 AM EST

          A one party system is what the Soviet Union had for 70 years and we all saw how that worked. While you may not like the Republican party, a two party system of government has it's virtues. Like your right to complain about it. A one party system can and has limited the very freedoms you enjoy. Think about your wish before you hit the "Post Comment" button.

          • 12 votes
          #6.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:49 AM EST

          Think about it: Lemming idiots like Ian never see the full picture in front of them, because they are usually staring at their own colons looking for reassurance that the world truly is better viewed in shades of "pink".

          • 6 votes
          #6.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:57 AM EST

          Sir I know moderates, I've worked along side moderates. Sir you are not a moderate. Just because you're ashamed to admit you're a tea people republican, don't try and pretend to be a moderate, you'll give true moderates a bad name.

          • 8 votes
          #6.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:36 AM EST

          MOcarthyism... Sees a tea people republican where ever he looks...

          • 5 votes
          #6.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:41 AM EST

          "While you may not like the Republican party, a two party system of government has it's virtues. Like your right to complain about it."

          No doubt we need two strong political parties in this nation. But the Republican party of the 21st century seems to be on a suicide mission. It’s almost like how many people can we anger and how much harm can we do. If they stay on this course they will be as forgotten as the Whig Party in another 2 or 3 election cycles.

          • 4 votes
          #6.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:46 AM EST

          Asking for President Obama's help is a little weak-minded thinking, isn't it? After all, he has led Democrats to their two wrost defeats in the House since 1948!

          • 3 votes
          #6.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:39 AM EST
          Reply

          Yesterday, we learned that Sarah Palin -- remember her? -- will be addressing the Conservative Political Action Conference in the DC area next month.

          Old Sarah Pee is certainly a busy body these days. Apparently, Harvard has lowered their academic standards to those of the University of Ubeckibeckibecki-stan, and hired Ms. Palin as an esteemed visiting scholar. According to the folks at Harvard,

          "As a former governor and a major-party nominee for vice president, Mrs. Palin is certainly a high-level figure. And the Kennedy School will benefit greatly from her knowledge and experience."

          She is apparently still in contract negotiations, finding a large enough home to accommodate both her ego and a moose head is proving difficult.

          Palin has reportedly already been spotted house hunting in the Beacon Hill neighborhood of Boston. Local real estate agent Phillip Dunphy says she toured a $3 million townhouse on Chestnut Street just last week.

          "We showed Mrs. Palin a great place," Dunphy says, "but it didn't have a big enough mantle for a moose head, so she declined to make an offer."

          Good luck Professor Palin - we need more of your intellect at top rated universities.

          http://dailycurrant.com/2013/02/18/sarah-palin-teach-class-harvard/

          • 12 votes
          Reply#7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:29 AM EST
          DamyouDeleted

          Can't wait til the mental midget Palin faces Harvard students. God, I would love to be a mouse in the corner!

          • 12 votes
          #7.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:52 AM EST

          Hate tp bust everyone's bubble, but the Daily Currant is a satirical website:

          The Daily Currant is an English language online satirical newspaper that covers global politics, business, technology, entertainment, science, health and media. It is accessible from over 190 countries worldwide - now including South Sudan.

          Our mission is to ridicule the timid ignorance which obstructs our progress, and promote intelligence - which presses forward.

          Q. Are your news stories real?

          A. No. Our stories are purely fictional. However they are meant to address real-world issues through satire and often refer and link to real events happening in the world

          http://dailycurrant.com/about/

          • 6 votes
          #7.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:00 AM EST

          One of the courses she will offer is 'how to' class on editing Wikipedia and re-writing history books to match your campaign trail claims.

          “I didn't mess up,” Palin said. “I answered candidly and I know my American history ... Part of his ride was to warn the British that we’re already there.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/sarah-palin-fans-fight-over-paul-revere-wikipedia-page/2011/06/06/AGxtzHKH_blog.html

          • 5 votes
          #7.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:03 AM EST

          Hate tp bust everyone's bubble, but the Daily Currant is a satirical website:

          Tnsevol - it has the credibility of Fox News. I'm sure the conservatives are thrilled their 'darling' has been invited to such an esteemed institution to share her vast intellect.

          • 5 votes
          #7.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:11 AM EST

          Daily Currant is a satirical liberal "non-news" site, liked by fewer than 5000 AZZBOOK followers. Funded by the biggest Clown of all, George Soros, and read (AND BELIEVED) by ALL of its' totally liberal readership. No surprise there..the same stupid libs also believe the Tripe served up by MSDNC , NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN as "news" as well. Well Read Liberal Intellectuals...what an oxymoron and misnomer. They think "Mein Kampf" is a childs' fairy tale.

          • 3 votes
          #7.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:15 AM EST

          Oh Yes Palin, a test study subject on the thinking of white trash in America!!!

          • 5 votes
          #7.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 AM EST

          RedDevPS...Palins' wacky statements are kinda' like Obama noting that he had visited all "57 States" isn't it???

          • 5 votes
          #7.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 AM EST

          Job1...your knowledge of "white trash" must be based on your own lifes' experiences living in that 15 foot Trailer and surviving on Taxpayer Handouts????? Maybe your avatar is an indication that you are still looking for Job1...after all these years. ???? Trailer getting a little cramped is it??? Palin has more Class than that drugged out thing you sleep with. What's his name???

          • 4 votes
          #7.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:23 AM EST

          Palins' wacky statements are kinda' like Obama noting that he had visited all "57 States" isn't it???

          I don't recall Obama hitting the news outlets doubling down on his misquoted claim, and attempting to change wikipedia to reflect there are 57 states in the US. But hey, go ahead and show us your ability to use shallow reasoning skills that make these two incomparable events comparable.

          • 9 votes
          #7.10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:35 AM EST

          Palin has more Class than

          Palin mentioned in the same sentence with the word 'class'.......that's an oxymoron!

          Classless better describes the Wasilla Village Idiot!....She's nothing but a grifter, but you can keep sending her your money and she'll gladly take it and give you nothing in return but inflammatory rhetoric!

          • 5 votes
          #7.11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:45 AM EST

          Moderate you just showed your true colors by trying to defend Palin. You're a tea people republican mascaraing as a moderate.

          • 5 votes
          #7.12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:47 AM EST

          Well Moderate in madison, it's your right to support that no nothing hillbilly, Sarah Palin. Also, I'm a Progressive, and it's in our nature to be be educated and work in a Job, in which I do pretty well in being happy with my job choice .

          However, many people are less educated and less fortunate and have a tendency to vote against their own self interest. So, in that being said, I have to say that many of the 47% that voted for Willard Romney fall into the tax payer handout circle.

          Remember, the Sarah Palin's of the Nation are the reason that the Republicans will continue to lose the office of the President. It's that darn stupidity factor!

          • 4 votes
          #7.13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:47 AM EST

          Oh here we go with the self-laudatory "I'm a Progressive" followed by the usual "people voting against their own self interest" crapola ! Liberals profess their self-appointed intellectual superiority once again !!

          The ARYAN race is alive and well ! Bow down before the "Progressives", they think loans to Solyndra, rapidly rising National Debt and NO BUDGETS are actually GOOD things !! All bow !!! Sing the praises ..........

          • 3 votes
          #7.14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:02 PM EST
          Reply

          Screw it, Im going golfing.

          • 6 votes
          Reply#8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:38 AM EST

          Maybe you could get to play a round with Obama .... see if he counts ALL of his strokes !

          • 7 votes
          #8.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:00 AM EST
          Reply

          a native american once reflected on his own inner self. He said " inside me are two dogs, one of them good and the other one evil. The evil dog is constantly fighting with the good dog. When asked which one wins? He paused, reflected and said "the one I feed the most"

          • 9 votes
          Reply#9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:38 AM EST

          Anyone else find it funny, this:

          the president hasn’t given an interview with a White House reporter (the folks who are covering him) in over a year.

          was followed by this:

          With the special GOP primary to fill South Carolina’s vacated House taking place next month, former Gov. Mark Sanford (R) went on “TODAY” to talk about his candidacy in the race.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:42 AM EST

          Amy, while I'm not one of the habitual bashers of the MSM, they've seemed to fall comfortably into their role of shill for any politician who wants a platform for their BS, while never asking any hard questions or challenging most of the nonsense that spews. Afraid of losing access I guess.

          BTW, I love the Chamberlain avatar. He's one of my favorites from history - a decent, intelligent and honorable man.

          • 3 votes
          #10.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:02 AM EST

          Thanks RTF!

          • 1 vote
          #10.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:19 AM EST

          "I love the Chamberlain avatar. He's one of my favorites from history - a decent, intelligent and honorable man."

          Chamberlain was a Republican. The Republican Party had countless decent, intelligent and honorable members from the mid 1850s all the way up to the early part of the 21st century. We can think of people such as TR, Hoover, Ike, Senator Everett Dirksen, Senator Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, Bob Dole – all honorable, intelligent, decent men. But something has happened in the last 13 years. The party that supported the space race is now the party denying science. The party that passed the voting rights act now is trying to make it harder to vote. The party that ended the Korean War and the Vietnam War now wants to start another war in the Mideast. The party of limited government now wants government dictating medical procedures for women.

          Today’s Republican Party is ruled by junkie talk show person, fanatical fundamentals Christians, survivalist gun crazy and a doomsday con man (Glen Beck) who spewed out so much insanity that even Fox Fired him.

          • 5 votes
          #10.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:04 AM EST

          I would say they've been co-opted by ignorance and fear.

          Stand for something or you'll fall for anything. Todays TeaPublican seems to represent the very WORST in society of absolutism without education. It's quite sad. Lincoln would renounce his party, were he brought back to life today.

          I was a Republican once. I'm in my 20th year of sobriety. I couldn't be happier with President Obama. The hate-or-aid has got to stop flowing so prolificly in the NuevoRepublican party.

          PS. Just have to comment on Newt Gingrich's recently 'found' religion. He is the epitomy of a two faced politician. When he thought he would get the nomination last year he was ALL IN on the crazy,...and now he's trying to present a 'moderate' front. Sheesh, like my Senator Claire McCaskill, I think I'm getting whiplash from this rapid fire 'change' of position!

          • 5 votes
          #10.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:55 AM EST
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          DamyouDeleted

          pressure Republicans on looming sequester cuts

          Mr. Obama proposed this nonsense and now wants to stop it. WOW!!! Instead of focusing on gun rights, gay rights, and illegal immigration how about the economy, energy, and jobs? If we get the unemployment rate down and the economy going there might be a little more money in the coffer to help this situation and many others our country face. Although he promised no tax increases for the middle-class he let the Bush tax cuts expire and Social Security went back up 2%. Now without an energy policy gas prices are rising and it doesn't stop there because everything we buy has to be transported so yet another increase for the middle-class. Then wait until Obamacare kicks in and WE (the middle-class) get the tax bill on that one, oh yes...there WILL be a tax increase to pay for that nonsense sooner or later I assure you.

          • 12 votes
          Reply#12 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:48 AM EST

          Why not label Obamas' "photo op" charades campaign what it really is: "Bullsh-ite Pull-my-pud-pit".

          • 8 votes
          Reply#13 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:51 AM EST

          Obama proposed the sequester in 2011. Now he's against it.....More BS for the BSer in Chief.....

          • 12 votes
          Reply#14 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:55 AM EST

          Shhhh !! Don't tell the truth !!!! It will cause a diarhhea attack of all Libtards posting on this site !!!!!!!!!!!

          • 9 votes
          #14.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 AM EST

          President Obama proposed the sequester in order to get the republicans to get off of their a$$es to do the jobs they were sent to do, by not shutting down the Government.

          Whoops that right, the bigoted tea party-republicans sent then to Washington to make darkie a one term President, no matter the consequences to the Nation.

          Oh yea, how did that one tern thingie work out for you?

          • 5 votes
          #14.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:12 AM EST

          And the Republicans voted for it to cover their sorry butts. That makes them either spineless or stupid I guess - but probably both. Poor, poor babies, they take no responsibility for anything and always blame someone else. That's what happens when you're morally and intellectually bankrupt. A five year old has more sense than they do.

          • 8 votes
          #14.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:24 AM EST
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          What are the Republicans out to prove? That they can be bigger idiots than they were in President Obama's first term? They wasted four years trying to sabotage everything President Obama tried to accomplish and he still did more in any two years (that would be years 1 and 2, or years 2 and 3, or years 3 and 4 for moron redneck bigots) than President Bush did in 8 years.

          He has already won reelection so your plan failed miserably. So now you will spend the next 4 doing the same thing? One of the signs of insanity is to keep trying the same thing but expecting a different result. Get a clue guys! More than half of the country recognizes you for what you are, and the other half is not all going to stay stuck on stupid.

          You will lose again in 2016.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#15 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:57 AM EST

          So you agree that another round of Obama's failed "Stimulus" would be insanity ?

          • 8 votes
          #15.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:08 AM EST

          Yes he did more than the previous 2 presidents did in their 16 years in office. He ran the national debit up 6 trillion $$$ in a so short time!

          • 7 votes
          #15.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:20 AM EST

          By the time Obama is done, he will have doubled the National Debt of ALL his predecessors COMBINED !!!

          • 7 votes
          #15.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:34 AM EST

          It's amazing you tea people republicans really don't have anything to say. Looking at you Jim and Dave.

          • 2 votes
          #15.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:54 AM EST

          Once again, President Obama proved to the nation that he is playing 3D Chess while the GOP is playing pocket pool.

          • 1 vote
          #15.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:05 PM EST

          Our economy is only a "game" to liberals .... it is all about "winning" with lefties, not about doing what is right in the long run ! Winning ? Charlie Sheen would be sooooo proud of you libbies !! LOL !!!!

          • 2 votes
          #15.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:45 PM EST

          Yes that is exactly right after President Obama added the hidden war charges that President Bush kept off the books our debt more than doubled. But I suppose he should have just kept lying to the American people, Oh I forgot its the republicans that are lying sacks of sh.....................!

            #15.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:29 PM EST
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            Sanford said he never admitted guilt, despite agreeing to pay $74,000 to settle those ethics charges.

            Even to another MORON, like himself, this IS admitting guilt.

            Can Sanford get any more idiotic?

            • 5 votes
            Reply#16 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:01 AM EST

            When will Republicans stop blocking Republican Sen Hagel from becoming Secretary of Defense?

            Do Republicans not realize the Chinese military is attacking our computer systems?
            Every minute the Republicans prevent Republican Senator Hagel from becoming Secretary of Defense costs American taxpayers and American businesses billions.

            If Republicans in Congress hate government so much, why don't they resign and save taxpayers billions?
            Today's Congressional Republicans are like criminals who hate law enforcement being named Deputies.

            • 10 votes
            Reply#17 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 AM EST

            Please explain how NOT having Hagel confirmed is costing us "billions" every second !

            This should be interesting.

            • 10 votes
            #17.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:07 AM EST

            OH Debbie......we are waiting.........................

            • 7 votes
            #17.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 AM EST

            O Debbie, we currently have a Secretary of Defense. It's Leon Panetta! He has the job to Hagel is confirmed.

            • 7 votes
            #17.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:19 AM EST

            Yes, Debbie .... we are waiting !

            • 6 votes
            #17.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:34 AM EST

            Good job Debbie, at least while these tea people are waiting we won't have to read their nonsense.

            • 3 votes
            #17.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:56 AM EST

            Yeah ! Rigghhhtttt !! Now we get to read YOUR nonsense !!! Debbie overloaded #17making an asinine statement, she cannot support it ..... and, of course, YOU endorse it !!!!

            • 4 votes
            #17.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:33 AM EST
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            Both sides agreed to sequestration as a means to get to responsible cuts. The House Republicans now see what economic damage sequester cuts will bring and are dancing with glee to embrace them because they are the quickest way to ruin the economy and inflict damage on the President.

            That's what they did during the first term--they don't care about their fellow citizens or the lost jobs as a result of the sequester.

            • 6 votes
            Reply#18 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:05 AM EST

            Do you actually believe the crap contained within your post ? Obama proposed sequestration ... now you want to pin that "donkey tail" on the Republicans ??

            Where are those "shovel-ready jobs" that Obama and his "laser like vision" campaigned upon and promised to achieve ???

            • 8 votes
            #18.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:10 AM EST

            The Republicans in Congress have blocked the Presidents jobs bill of which you are talking about.

            get it?

            • 3 votes
            #18.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:14 AM EST

            hmm, The Republicians in Congress. Don't seem to remember to many jobs bills coming out of the DEMOCRATIC controlled Senate, but I can name around 30+ jobs bills that passed the Republician House that Harry Reid refuses to even bring to the Senate floor for debate.

            • 8 votes
            #18.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 AM EST

            Ok Dave, name them. I'll give you a break and say give us 15. And not the ones that include a trickle down basis, which history has already proven is ineffective on any level.

            • 1 vote
            #18.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:28 AM EST

            Here's 18: HR 872, HR 910, H J Res 37, HR 1229, HR 1230, HR 1231, HR 2021, HR 2018, HR 1315, HR 1938, HR 2587, HR 2401, HR 2681, HR 2250, HR 2273, HR 2433, HR 674.

            Now I don't want to bore you with all the JOBS CREATION wording in these bills. I'm sure with your 1st grade reading skills, you can google any of them & learn what they say.

            • 7 votes
            #18.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:39 AM EST

            The score after one the first quarter ......

            Dave-659903 17 !

            RTFS 0!!

            Would someone PLEASE give RTFS an egg scraper to get it off his face !

            • 7 votes
            #18.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:42 AM EST

            The wording in these bills is simple Dave (just like you) tax cuts for the rich. every one of the bills you listed is the same, just different wording.

            • 2 votes
            #18.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:00 AM EST

            hmm, HR 2433 is a Veterans Opportunity to work Act. It would create or modify programs that provide employment & training services to veterans and service members separating from active service. Don't see anywhere there is a tax cut in there. I guess you just hate veterans & military service members all together & don't want to help them when they get out of the military. How democrap of you!

            HR 2587: Protecting jobs from government interference act: Would prohibit the NRLB from ordering any employer to close, relocate or transfer employment under any circumstance. Again don't see a tax cut there. Hmm, must be a democrap thing!

            You have a inability to read I guess.

            • 7 votes
            #18.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:15 AM EST

            That's it Dave - can't make an intellectual argument so attack and lie about something that you know nothing about. You obviously possess the maturity of a pre-schooler, calling those who question or disagree with you names you think are witty. You have an inability to think beyond what your right-wing news outlets feed you.

            Your list is BS - tax cuts don't create jobs, no matter much you and your delusional friends beat that drum.

            • 3 votes
            #18.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:20 AM EST

            RTFS & what is it I lied about. Do you have a problem with google, I don't I was quite able to find info on the many Republician job bills I listed.

            • 3 votes
            #18.10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:25 AM EST

            RTFS is simply digging himself/herself/ it a bigger hole ! You kicked proverbial "liberal butt" in your reply at #18.5 and he/she/it simply cannot handle it !!

            • 5 votes
            #18.11 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:38 AM EST
            Reply

            This sequester is like a spit in the ocean. It will not affect any entitlements. It is funny they should use the "Bully Pulpit" phrase here because Obama is a bully and refuses even an attempt at compromise. I say lets pull down our pants and slide on the ice, right over the sequester cliff! To quote Hillary Clinton, "At this point what does it matter?"

            • 9 votes
            Reply#19 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:11 AM EST

            Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

            Respect is earned..................not freely handed out..................

            • 9 votes
            Reply#20 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:12 AM EST

            Maureen, She clearly missed that memo that you don't demand respect you earn it. I think you can see what little respect anyone has for Obama is going away little by little everyday. To many backdoor deals and midnight secessions. He seems to think he has to go to the senate or congress he can just make his own laws and policy's. I think the Red Head was hired by the Whitehouse foe some reason Obama can do nothing wrong.

            • 2 votes
            #20.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:30 PM EST

            Maureen, She clearly missed that memo that you don't demand respect you earn it. I think you can see what little respect anyone has for Obama is going away little by little everyday. To many backdoor deals and midnight secessions. He seems to think he has to go to the senate or congress he can just make his own laws and policy's. I think the Red Head was hired by the Whitehouse foe some reason Obama can do nothing wrong.

            • 1 vote
            #20.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:30 PM EST

            Allen - yes, she is in charge of communications for the POTUS - in 2010, she received the largest pay increase of all his stooges in the White House - her name is Jen Psaki.

            • 1 vote
            #20.3 - Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 AM EST
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            About the Sequester "cliff." I suppose we can look forward to another downgrade from Standard & Poors and perhaps others....I SO hope the voters clean house in Congress in 2014.

            • 6 votes
            Reply#21 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 AM EST

            Republicans with thier obstruct at all means agenda have given the President no other option than to go public with his thoughts and plans and get the public opinion onboard so that it puts pressure on an already unpopular Republican Party and Congress to act in a way that benefits people not corporations.

            Is it dirty pool? Perhaps but in this case its fight fire with fire. Too bad

            • 5 votes
            Reply#22 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 AM EST

            give me a president who will deal with Congress in an intelligent manner & then maybe we can talk about compromise!

            • 6 votes
            #22.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:16 AM EST

            @Johnny, #22 There certainly IS another option for Obama ! It is called "leadership" !!

            But let's be honest, the "Narcissist-in-Chief" would rather campaign before his adoring minions, unchallenged by the lamestreammedia .... than actually roll up his sleeves and do the hard work of FOCUSED work .

            • 7 votes
            #22.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:39 AM EST

            the trouble is Dave, we have an intelligent President who is willing to deal with congress. The problem is we have an unintelligent tea people republican majority in the house that is not willing to deal with an intelligent President.

            Jim all your posts consist of is name calling.

            • 3 votes
            #22.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:09 AM EST

            we have a intelligent president:

            Let's see here: He gave 500 million of our money to a company that closed 6 months later

            He sign legislation that approved 878 billion for shovel ready jobs "his words" but then couldn't remember or prove of any shovel ready jobs it helped!

            He ramed a health care bill thru Congress that he PROMISED would: lower cost, allow you to keep your plan/doctor. Cost have sky rocketed, companies have dropped plans & doctors have dropped patients.

            He violates the US COnstitution by employing drones to KILL American citzens without due process denying them their Constitutional rights!

            He activley kills citzens of other countries & use military force to do it all without the consent of Congress!

            I could go on, but a intelligent president we "DO NOT" have!

            • 4 votes
            #22.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:20 AM EST
            Reply

            It is time to wrap the sequester around the teabagger's collective necks and throw them off the capital rotunda.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#23 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:14 AM EST

            mark....yeh, you do that . yadayadayada

            • 4 votes
            #23.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:27 AM EST

            WOW great come back fake moderate.

            • 2 votes
            #23.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:11 AM EST

            Seems to me the sequester is the total fault of both Republician/Democrats & the President

            House Republicans voted & passed the bill

            Senate Democrats voted & passed the bill

            The President SIGNED tbill into law.

            Why is it now democraps have a trouble FOLLOWING THE LAW!

            • 2 votes
            #23.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:28 AM EST
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            Feisty, reference one of your above post: you seem to confuse respect for the office of President & respect for the man in the office. Many People can have respect FOR the office buts show no respect for the man IN the office.

            I'm in the boat. I RESPECT THE OFFICE of President, but I have NO respect for the idiot in the office currently! Don't confuse the two!

            • 10 votes
            Reply#24 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:14 AM EST

            They are one in the same dingbat. What a moron!

            • 4 votes
            #24.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:15 AM EST

            So Johnny, did you show RESPECT to President Bush when he was in office, or are you a democrap leaning moron who only kisses democrap presidents asses! They are not the same. The office & person are two separate entities all together. You can respect the one, but not the other very easy. I'll make it easy for you & give you a simple example:

            Why is it that people stand when the President enters a room: It's because they respect the office of President not the person!

            • 6 votes
            #24.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:24 AM EST

            Dave...Ignore Johnny....he suffers from the LOD..(Liberal Optic Disorder)....spends so much time examining Obamas' colon that his Optic Nerve has become entangled with Obozos' lower intestinal tract creating the omnipresent liberal condition of "Shiitey Chronic Hussein Outlook On Life", or SCHOOL.

            • 7 votes
            #24.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:31 AM EST

            Dave you and fake moderate don't have a clue what the Presidency means do you. If you can't respect the man who holds the office, then you can't respect the office. And to answer your question about President Bush, yes I respected President Bush and I still do. I just didn't agree with his policies and the way he took us into Iraq. I don't expect you and fake moderate to understand, seeing as all you survive on his hate and anger.

            • 3 votes
            #24.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:17 AM EST

            Well, MO-681343 opinions are like asses, everyone is entitled to theirs & some are just bigger than others. You say you respected President Bush, but I doubt it. If you cannot understand that a person can have respect for the Office of president but no the person holding the job, then you are a idiot.

            But hey that's my opinion!

            • 4 votes
            #24.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:30 AM EST
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            I see they brought up the Politico article about the President "shaping" media coverage. That article quickly dismissed the notion that the press is willingly on the President's side. What a crock of crap!

            "Mr. President. Did you beat Tiger?"

            "Mr. President. How can I kiss your azz in a way that's never been done before?"

            "Mr. President. Where can I find the best kneepads to give you more journalistic lewinskis?"

            • 9 votes
            Reply#25 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:19 AM EST

            "Liberal media bias" means that a conservative didn't see what (s)he wanted to see. Whether it actually exists or not. Now, it's time for you to surf Orly Taitz's website!!

            • 5 votes
            #25.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:42 AM EST

            Best post of the day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            I hope you do not mind if I borrow your phrase "journalistic lewinski's" ... it is simply SPOT-ON ! LOL !!

            • 8 votes
            #25.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:44 AM EST

            Jim: Use it all you want... It's in the public domain

            Auntie: Bad case of tunnelvision...

            • 5 votes
            #25.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:10 AM EST

            Quovadisusa, seems like you might be practicing optometry without a license.

            • 1 vote
            #25.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:52 AM EST

            Auntie Fascist: Not at all. Just commenting that some have their heads so tight in the President's backside as they perform their lipservice that the President basically has a 24/7 colonoscopy and those performing it have de facto tunnelvision. I thought you might be astute enough to pick up on that point. As it is, I was more than happy to explain it to you. Have a great day.

            • 2 votes
            #25.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:41 PM EST

            Mr. Quovadisusa where could we find some meds for you

            Mr. Quovadisusa would you agree to go willing into a clinic for "ignorant aggression"

            Mr. Quovadisusa would you agree to having your head surgically removed from your arse

            Mr. Wuovadisusa would you agree to refrain from posting until you are educated

              #25.7 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:16 PM EST

              Forever: I have the equivelant of two masters degrees (languages and history) and am a tenured professor of both. I am fluent in three languages and can "get by" with three others.

              What was that you were saying about educated? As is so typical of the left, you equate political disagreement with ignorance. As I don't know what level of education you have received, I won't comment on your intelligence or level of learning. Do try to have a nice life anyway. I hold no personal animosity towards you as you apparently do towards me.

              • 3 votes
              #25.8 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:54 PM EST

              Again, failure of a journalist's view of the world to correspond with yours does not indicate "liberal media bias". Nearly 51% of American voters had "liberal bias" in November. 2016 looks like there'll be even more.

                #25.9 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:01 PM EST

                Auntie: You are still missing the point. I had no problem with an aggressive press against GWB. I'm libertarian and as such was no fan of his anyways. I simply expect an equally aggressive press no matter who is in the White House. The press got all bunched up over the President's golf outing with Tiger Woods, when there have been bigger issues to cover that they have whitewashed, buried, or dismissed--at the very least lacking the same tenacity they had when covering the previous administration... To help you understand this, picture your opinion if 95% of the news coverage followed the Fox News model.

                As to 2016: Hubris usually comes before the downfall. The left certainly has the hubris.

                • 2 votes
                #25.10 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:19 PM EST
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                ” So if you’re a Republican supporting immigration reform, you eagerly want to highlight any differences with the White House (no matter how small they might be). "

                So it would be a very sad day if John Boner were to catch fire and a democrat was the first to say "get a fire extinguisher". What ever you do don't do what a democrat suggested.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#26 - Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:20 AM EST
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