Report of immigration draft plan brings White House statement

Republican Senator Marco Rubio and others in the GOP criticizing the president for crafting immigration plan with no bipartisan input, NBC's Kristen Welker reports.

The White House is not directly commenting on a newspaper report that the administration is considering a path for illegal immigrants to become legal permanent U.S. residents within eight years.

USA Today said it obtained a draft of a White House immigration plan that contained the proposal.

The White House wouldn’t comment Saturday night directly on the USA Today report but released this statement:

“The President has made clear the principles upon which he believes any commonsense immigration reform effort should be based. We continue to work in support of a bipartisan effort, and while the President has made clear he will move forward if Congress fails to act, progress continues to be made and the administration has not prepared a final bill to submit.”


Since his re-election – which got a boost from Hispanic voters -- President Barack Obama has renewed his push for an overhaul of the nation’s immigration policy, including the topic in his inaugural address and State of the Union speech and making a trip to Nevada last month to highlight the issue.

And there’s been some progress in the Senate: A bipartisan group of senators announced in late January that they had agreed on goals for a major rewrite of immigration laws. Those include creating a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who are here already and creating a system to ensure that employers don’t hire illegal immigrants.

But reaction to the USA Today report by Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., points to the difficulty in passing any package. Rubio issued a statement Saturday saying that if the president's eventual proposal follows the draft described by USA Today, it "would be dead on arrival in Congress."    

NBC News' Ali Weinberg contributed to this report.

Hidden cameras reveal Mexican drug and immigrant smugglers crossing the U.S. border and traveling miles north into the country, NBC's Mark Potter reports.


 

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The borders of the US need to be secured. We need to bring our troops home and secure our own borders! We need to stop being the "world police" and refortify our own country. The US is FULL! NO VACANCY! We have enough problems already, illness, health care, jobs, crime, why do we insist on letting more people come here? So some non-english speaking person takes another job from an American? and the people that do come here need to learn OUR language, we should NOT have to learn their language. You go to any other country and they won't change their language to English! The US being a melting pot is not valid in these times. It's time to hang the "we're closed" sign on the USA !!!

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Reply#55 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:34 AM EST

From what I've seen, the older generation of illegal immigrants are very hard workers and live within the law (except still being illegal, which does make them criminals). The anchor babies, which are US citizens, are the drain to society.

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Reply#56 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:34 AM EST

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Kick 'em all out!

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#56.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:37 AM EST

ok joe, fork over the next 1 trillion to pay for that project. It costs more to kick them out over an inevitably 10 year minimum ong process than it does to leave them all here for 50 years.

    #56.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:55 AM EST

    The problem JOE is they are here working and not paying taxes. If we make them legal they will be here paying taxes. Trying to Kick 'em Out as you so eloquently put it is easier said than done. We are finding that people who have been deported come back time and time again. Jail with provide them with food, shelter and medical at a cost to taxpayers. The answer is get the illegals to become legal so they can pay their fair share. Will with work, maybe, maybe not, but we must try something.

      #56.3 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:13 AM EST

      Congress needs to pass a law mandating that all employers use E-Verify. Once the jobs start to become unavailable to them, a sizable percent of the illegal immigrants will self-deport.

      We now have the tools to enforce employment laws better than we ever have before. We should implement E-Verify nationwide for at least five years and measure the results before we consider any form of amnesty.

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      #56.4 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:36 AM EST
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      Here's the only acceptable plan on a path toward comprehensive immigration:

      Go straight back across the border where you came from, and if you don't think that's safe, we'll put you and a 100 of your compatriots on a boat, with fishing rods and nets and 30 days of beans, rice, and other staples, and you can float out to sea and either find a friendly nation to take you, find a deserted island, or live out at sea the rest of your life. Good luck - and don't come back because if you do we shoot first & talk second.

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      Reply#57 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:35 AM EST

      So many racists, so little time.

        #57.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:55 AM EST
        Reply

        For all you conservatives:

        Sending them all back is not feasible.

        Rounding them all up and prosecuting them like the pogroms of Europe is not feasible.

        So what is your FEASIBLE plan to handle the illeagal immigrants in America?

        • 1 vote
        #58 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:36 AM EST

        Give them sh*t to eat and see how fast they go home.

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        #58.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:37 AM EST

        why isn't it feasible? the irs does it all the time seeking out millions and millions of people that don't pay taxes each year. So it's not like it's impossible it may take years and years to do but it isn't impossible.

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        #58.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:40 AM EST

        Go after the Drug Lords in Mexico instead of fighting across the world would be the first step. Letting the citizens of Mexico handle themselves and let them prosper in their own land. You would be surprised at how many Illegal Immigrants are just trying to get to a safe and secure land.

          #58.3 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:41 AM EST

          steelcity, it would involve turning the U.S. into a police state, and you'd have to give the government A LOT of man power and social power conservatives should be fundamentally against.

            #58.4 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:41 AM EST

            the gov could work with local officals and data bases across the country it wouldn't be a massive manhunt search. i mean no one said you can round 11 million up in a day it would take years to do, but thats where self deportation comes in for the remainder if they saw the the gov was serious about removing illegal immergrants, many of them would just go back to their home country instead of having the gov seek them out and risk chargers.

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            #58.5 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:44 AM EST

            Steel you have obviously never worked with a local police department and worked with intermingling hierarchies. It would be a complete drain on police resources to do this and would open a floodgate of violent crime everywhere. And no, the illegals would not simply leave. There are parts of mexico untouched by corruption and drug lords, but you don't get into them without serious money and connections. There's a reason people leave their countries for ours, and it's not the welfare.

            I sympathize with both sides of this issue, but mass deportation is not the answer. Securing our border, educating the current illegals, and moving on is the best course of action, though perhaps a forced draft for the illegals could put them to good use if they come with no discernable skills.

              #58.6 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:46 AM EST

              who said the police force would do this alone. why do you think we have diff divisions of law enfocerment to tackle diff problems. i know how the system works i worked for the coast guard for 5 years. So it isn't like i know nothing about this issues considering i was one of those people that worked for a division of law enforcement.

              so allowing illegal immgrants to stay in the us is the answer then?

                #58.7 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:49 AM EST

                We could have a hunting season like for deer or elk or whatever. That would thin them out quickly because once word got out they would run like hell back to where they came from. To hell with due process just like barack did away with it where it comes to killing the American citizens he wants to do away with.

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                #58.8 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:50 AM EST

                drkangel, strawman. The ability to kill U.S. citizens with drones legally without due process has existed since the 3rd year of the bush admin. The memo on a single judge's analysis of what is exactly the same policy, was simply leaked now. Honestly do you even think about the implications of facts when they arise, or do you take their 1-dimensional face value and move on?

                  #58.9 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:52 AM EST

                  Steel, again, you're a fool coastguard or not. You could mobilize the entire armed forces of the U.S. and not get this done in 10 years! You would have to make EVERY level of law enforcement act together as a cohesive unit. It's a pipe dream. I'm a logistician with 4 masters degrees, one being in Military history and strategy. You are one piece of one sword of one pawn in this massive 8,000 piece chess game. Get a clue.

                    #58.11 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:55 AM EST

                    patrick, you are a liberal idiot.

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                    #58.12 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:58 AM EST

                    drk, I voted for a true conservative, gary johnson. You're the neoconservative moron who doesn't realize his own party is in bed with the enemy.

                    And you can easily look this up. The drone policy has not changed 1 iota since bush and cheney and rumsfeld put it together.

                      #58.13 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:59 AM EST

                      hey fool where did i say this would take 10 years? news flash all levels of law enforcement work together anyhow. i can see you have never worked for law enforcement one day in your life. you are a logisticain with 4 masters degrees? if you have it all figured out then why haven't you answered the last question you stated you couldn't round up all of them and deport them i said ok then whats the answer then make them all legal automaticly?

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                      #58.14 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:01 AM EST

                      steelcity, I did give one possible solution you witless hack. Mandatory draft and service for those with no discernable skills (let's say 4 years for a hypothetical) after which they will certainly have skills, some will have died, and the ones coming back can contribute to society and gain citizenship. Those with skill will have those skills applied through employement, but yes, amnesty trumps trying to toss out 15+ million illegals. And I threw out the 10 year figure as a hypothetical base. Don't accuse me of putting words in your mouth. I'm above that level of childishness.

                        #58.15 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:09 AM EST

                        mandatory draft? what if they decide not to go what are you going to do send the to prision and overcrowd the prison system? This is how idiotic your solution is, either way you are still allowing illegal immgrants to stay in this country because, because according to you, you can't deport them because there is soo many of them so you miles well just let them stay in this country regardless of what they do.

                          #58.16 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:35 AM EST
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                          and what would this path consist of giving illegals automatic citizenship? how is it fair for those going through the legal way to become a citizen to get pushed back in line to make way for undocmented ones to become a citizen just because they decided to come her illegally.

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                          Reply#59 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:36 AM EST

                          Who said they have to be pushed to the back of the line?

                            #59.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:38 AM EST

                            giving someone automatic citizenship while someone else has been waiting for 4 years to become one isnt jumping the line?

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                            #59.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:41 AM EST

                            The only line I want to see these bastards on is the Greyhound Line back to Mexico.

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                            #59.3 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:43 AM EST

                            Too bad boo hoo you kooky kkk'rs make me lmao.

                              #59.4 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:59 AM EST
                              Reply

                              Why do we get these premature reports. It makes no sense. Let the POTUS divulge his ideas when he is ready.

                                Reply#60 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:36 AM EST

                                His ideas are like farts, they take time to percolate.

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                                #60.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:47 AM EST
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                                First thing first. I have a coworker who would love to move back to Mexico to be with his family. He is a legal immigrant and speaks English fluently. The reason he moved to the United States in the first place was due to the drug lords who control the area. If we weren't so focused on our issues across the world maybe we could focus on the issues down south where the hispanic population are literally running to us for aid.

                                Second. To give these measures to those who are ILLEGALLY coming here would be down right wrong. Those who actually paid and went through the process of coming here LEGALLY should be angry beyond belief to these comments from both parties.

                                Third. The only reason that both parties are really pushing for this to pass is due to election numbers. They believe that by tapping the resource of the illegal's they will earn their vote, not ours as AMERICAN CITIZENS.

                                Fourth. The jobs aren't even going to be there for the illegal's if Obama passes the increase in minimum wage to 9.00 dollars an hour because most businesses won't be able to afford those rates. Most will actually just fall under the red line and close up shop. With the exception of the major companies like Walmart and McDonalds. In which case, American's will have to take those jobs unless of course the illegal immigrants take them first.

                                Fifth and final statement. Do I believe that their should be a wall at our border? No, absolutely not. That will not solve our problem currently. Do I believe in deporting people? No and Yes. The reason I say no is because they do play an essential role at times of necessity, but at the same time they wouldn't come here and work out in the Strawberry fields picking berry's if they could get their homes back in their own country. I say yes, because it is illegal to be in this country without going through the process of becoming a citizen by getting a green card or some other identification. I defend the right that people should live the way we do, as long as it follows the accordance of the people who live here in America.

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                                Reply#61 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:37 AM EST

                                any company paying minimum wage who manages to fall below the red line on just a 1.50 difference had horrible business models and were doomed anyway.

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                                #61.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:42 AM EST

                                I have to say that it would be a bad business model, but at the same time what if the business had a large demand for their product before the 1.50 raise, and now they have to raise the price for the product to accommodate lets say the 6 employees they have. The business also could keep the price the same amount to make the product more affordable for the consumers, but now they have to choose between reducing the hours of the employees, or they could just reduce the amount of workers they have and supplement the loss by demanding more of their employees.

                                They then can't provide for the high demand that their product had, because not only does this company have to think of choosing either option but so does so many other companies reducing the head count or reducing hours of their employees. Therefore, making it harder for consumers to buy the original companies products.

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                                #61.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:53 AM EST

                                that price rise would be a few cents. Businesses used to be great because they didn't pad their bottom line. They treated employee and consumer like family and the whole system ran fine. It's when greed became too large a force that it all went to hell.

                                Val, that's the economic idea which has ruined this country. It's not a choice of price increase=less demand, lower wages = less demand, or less hours=less money=less demand (notice the equalizing downside). It's simply a have faith moment. Have faith and do whats right by employee and customer.

                                  #61.3 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:01 AM EST

                                  I take it you have never been laid off before? Horrible experience trust me.

                                  Regardless, yes business's pad their bottom line. Of course they do, why else would anyone dedicate themselves to developing a business and risking not only their lives but the lives of those they love. They see a way to make money. That's part of the American Dream, to make a living with the utilities you have.

                                  And also I would be willing to bet that those companies that were treating employees like family are closed now. Must be a bad business model or something.

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                                  #61.4 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:09 AM EST

                                  Valcron, no, but I've made myself indispensable and took my employers by the balls. I can run circles around half of wall street, but I don't have the patience to deal with that many idiots.

                                  And you describe a trend which has come about only as a result of reagan. Businesses did not used to pad themselves to the hilt. They cared, now they don't. Our economy was once the envy of the world, now only our consumer market is left and that is dying due to businessmen's incompetence and foolishness.

                                  And no, you go far enough west or south you still find very successful businesses which treated the customer and employee like family. It's called small business you worthless excuse for a patriot.

                                    #61.5 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:12 AM EST

                                    K so, your definately not worth listening to if you have to succumb down to using situational name calling.

                                    First off, never called myself a patriot, but thank you for saying that I am.

                                    Second, I live in the South and got laid off by a business that I considered family.

                                    Third, I'm happy you consider yourself indispensable, unfortanutely you can still be laid off or fired if the corporation deems it necessary. Don't make the mistake like I did and get cocky about how important you are as an individual, because I thought the same thing since I could run circles around my employers as well.

                                    Fourth, our economy is going down hill due to tax inflation which may have been a result from the Reagan administration, unfortanutely your arguement is flawed because in the Clinton years we had a surplus and thats really when we were the envy of the world economically. As I recall Clinton was after Reagan when it came to the Presidency. If on the other hand you mentioned Bush Jr. as the reason for the economic downfall I would not argue against that.

                                    Fifth, I believe in small business and plan on running one of my own. Already have a business plan drafted and planning on implementing it when I gain funds and see about getting a lawyer to start drafting situational circumstances and understanding the problems that may come from taxation and employment. The problem is that Walmart is a business that undercuts the competition which in turn drives small business out of the market. While, this is just an example of one super large business you have many others that have the same problem.

                                    Sixth and final statement, if you want to get a point across don't insult people when you can't argue against them logically. Agree or disagree with the statements and refute them if you can, but if you can't don't go off and start insulting people. It won't earn you any points from the community or the individual you are talking to.

                                      #61.6 - Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:45 PM EST
                                      Reply

                                      Valcron Your quote seems to be undocumented. "if Obama passes the increase in minimum wage to 9.00 dollars an hour because most businesses won't be able to afford those rates."

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                                      Reply#62 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:40 AM EST

                                      Good point, our economy isn't even stabilized as of yet, our unemployment numbers have only increased as minimum wages have raised, our ability to buy the basics of life is hard for those who only have minimum wage jobs and can only find one source of income.

                                      But my comments aren't documented, I suppose I could use common knowledge as a utility though.

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                                      #62.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:43 AM EST

                                      minimum wages have not increased in 30 years. Increasing minimum wages will make a few very cheap goods go slightly higher in price. But lower class families will be able to subsist and perhaps gain social mobility, and this will in turn increase demand for more moderate goods, thus being a positive to the entire economy. If big businesses like mcdonalds and walmart take a hit, good, the economy needs competition, not consolidation.

                                        #62.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:50 AM EST

                                        Check your facts Patrick. The minimum wage was 5.25 ten years ago. The Government has since then been increasing the minimum wage over and over again incrementally. They used the excuse that is being stated now back then, "This is to help the middle income families."

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                                        #62.3 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:56 AM EST

                                        Private sector business. Cost per piece is $1. After any increase (labor/overhead), cost is still $1. Cuts take place to maintain this cost. In some cases, cost cannot be maintained, than the selling cost goes up.

                                          #62.5 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:03 AM EST

                                          And looking over my statement Master Q I wasn't quoting anyone. Thanks though.

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                                          #62.6 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:15 AM EST
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                                          There is a demand for cheap labor in this country, and if the immigration system doesn't get fixed the "illegal" workers will keep coming, and there is no way to stop them, they do not come here to steal anything, just to fill in those spaces and get those jobs that most Americans are not willing to do. America needs those people just as much as they need the American jobs. And please don't forget one simple but very important thing...those 11 million "undocumented" people represent 11 million consumers, so either you guys like it or not...they are "customers" and one thing is for sure...A country just like a business cannot survive without customers. Every time you guys go to the grocery store look at your receipt and notice the line where it says "taxes", well those 11 million people are paying those same taxes on a daily basis, now go to a restaurant, a hotel, or any kind of business where you suspect they hire illegal immigrants, ask the owners for the payroll records and you will find that most immigrants pay their taxes even when they can't get high refunds. Those 11 million people represent millions of houses being rented or purchased, those 11 million people represent millions of cars being sold, those 11 million people represent millions of computers, phones and tablets being sold, if you kick them out...you will be kicking your own butt down the hill. What othe American (because they are Americans too) will work for $7.25 dollars per hour? But I guess you people think low prices happen just magically right? RIGHT?

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                                          Reply#63 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:42 AM EST

                                          Illegal immigration is a national security and economic security problem with the unemployment high as it is the unemployed and welfare recipients should be in the Fields and at the farms. They can be bringing over chemical, biological, and or regular weapons over along with the drugs. The money is sent home making the US $ worth less and less. Illegal immigration is not just Mexican or Canadian it is of all regions I know from personal experience I have had 1 African 1 Britain, Russian, Canadian, Salvadorian, German, Arab. It is and should be treated as a Terrorist threat to the nation and not treated any less.

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                                          Reply#64 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:43 AM EST

                                          "The truth is, the undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than regular Americans. Most come here to work, and in their desire to stay, they are generally afraid to do anything that might draw the attention of armed people wearing badges." Pigotry

                                          So after reform we can expect an increase in crime because they will no longer be afraid to do anything wrong?

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                                          Reply#65 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:47 AM EST

                                          The problem is no longer illegal immigration (which is bad enough). It's immigration period. We have 20 million unemployed Americans and 5 to 10 million homeless Americans. We have no time to worry about foreigners when we can't take care of our own citizens. What started out as an illegal immigration problem has become an immigration problem period. It's like scratching yourself on a dirty nail - it starts out with a little cut and then you end up with lockjaw.

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                                          Reply#66 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:47 AM EST

                                          You are exactly right. Let's also not forget that once these illegal aliens are amnestied and made legal then their hourly wage will increase 500%. Why you ask ? Because now they are legal and will demand more money, at least minimum wage and will no longer be afraid of drawing attention. You can also expect a lot of them to quit their under the tables positions and go and seek other higher paid jobs such as McDonalds, Walmart, K-Mart ect..and then it will all collapse and food and retail prices will sky-rocket. This entire proposed reform will pretty much destroy the United States and put millions of American Citizens into un-employment, welfare and let's just say another "Depression" just like way back when. Then what will they do ?

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                                          #66.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:00 AM EST
                                          Reply

                                          If you are un-skilled labor, this proposal should be lighting your fire. If the Government wanted to control immigration, it would, just like the IRS and taxes.

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                                          Reply#67 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:47 AM EST

                                          I am a Republican; and, my CO WORKERS, are Democrats.
                                          I have a lot of Business/Social Friends, in the USA, who are "Republicans, and, Democrats", who can not wait, now, to see, or, who would urgently be waiting,
                                          "To See the USA-White-House, would enforce, the USA, now, with a Nothing but a most-Common-Sense-USA-Economical-Humane-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements(for the millions of the innocent, hard-working, Long-Term USA-Resident-Workers, in the USA, who does not have USA-Legal-Status, even after they would have workied & lived, in the USA, with a Tough & Abused, discriminated & suffered, non-criminal-life, with less wages, with less-benifits, with no USA-Civil-Rights, for a long-period of time, in the USA, for 8 to 10-years, while serving silently, with pains & discriminations, in the different USA-Businesses, for over a long-period of time, 8 to 10-years, for the covered-benifits of the USA-Businesses/Economics, against/infront of the tough Economical/Business-competitions, from the economically rival-countries of China/India/Mexico/Russia/Brazil/Pakistan/Nigeria/Argentina/Venezuela/Germany/
                                          Korea/etc.)".

                                          We, "The Republicans & Democrats(the 100s of Millions of the USA-Citizens), in 2012-Presidential-Elections / 2013", have been clearly expressed & established,
                                          "Our USA-Humane-Justified-Smart-Economical-Views, to legalize, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, the LONG-TERM, OVER-USED/ EXPLOITED-Population-Portion,
                                          of the 11-millions of the Non-Criminal-portiion of the Long-TermUSA-Resident-Workers,
                                          (who are already have been Over-Used /Exploited, in the USA-Busineses,
                                          for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in a Covered/Exploited System, under the tough Deportation-Based-Enforcement-System, on them, in the last 15-years, in the USA)", [by Selecting & Electing, Mr. Obama, as the USA-President, for the Second-Term, (2013-2016)],
                                          (who wanted to Legalize the millions of the Hard-Working/Suffered/Distressed/Poor/Homeless Cheap & Productive-already-explited-Workers, in the USA, to be processed,
                                          in to an USA-Justified-Patriotic-Economical-Humane-Legalization-Program-Enforcement-Process, during his second-term, 2013-2016).
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                                          They have been Over-Used/Exploited, already, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA, with less wages, without Any USA-Civil-Rights, with tremendous Abuses & Discriminations, in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, (under a Deportation-Only-Enforcement, in the USA, for the last 15+ years, in the USA).
                                          A Good Portion of "these 11+millions of these workers, in the USA, for the USA-Economical-Revenuing-Building-System", are, "already working & living, (and, hence, already, have been abused/exploited/over-used/punished, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)", or, and, "hence, have been over-used/exploited/ punished/discriminated, as an illegal-immigrant-workers, for over 8 to 10+ years, in the USA".

                                          They are "Already Punished, enough, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA";
                                          [and, Honestly Speaking, THEY, ARE, now, probably, ready, to Beg A Pardon(to the USA-Lawmakers/USA-President, to get an USA-Humane-Economical-Patriotic-Justices-(to cancel/waive/exempt, permanently, their proposed Deportation-Orders, on them, if they are to prove as Non-Criminal, for their time & life in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)].
                                          That is "The, long over-due, USA-National-Patriotic-Economical-Humane-Justices-(An USA-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements, on these above 11-millions of
                                          the Long-Term Working/Living/Exploited/Distressed/Poor/Over-Used/Discriminated/already-punished/already-suffered/homeless/helpless, hard-working / cheap/economical/desperate/productive/serving Workers, for the good of the USA, already, for the 8 to 10+ years)".
                                          They are already Punished(for more than the 8 to 10+ years).
                                          Now, "they would honestly & judiciously, must, need an USA-Pardon-(Humane Legalization-Enforcements, on them, towards, an USA-Earned-Credit-Based, USA-Citizenship-Enforcements, on them)".
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                                          Moreover, we, (The Modern & Growing Union of the USA-Patriotic-Responssible, Republicans & DemocratIc USA-Citizen-Groups, with a Majority, on this above USA-National-Patriotic-Responssible-Humane-Smart-Immigration-Economical-Reform-2013), would also must need,
                                          "the Prompt & Quick, Humane & Enhanced Deportation-Only-Enforcements, on the remaining-all-other new & future, Illegal-Immigrants/Peoples, in the USA, (specially, who would be entering/coming, in to the USA, with an Illegal-Immigration-Status, on & after the 31st. December, 2012, the proposed Cut-Off-Date / Deadline-Date, on it), within the first year of it, before they would be over-used/discriminated/exploited, in the USA-Businesses/Factories/Consructions/etc.,areas, for years".[This would include the three types of the Illegal-Immigrant-Peoples,(in the USA):-
                                          (i) Over-Stayed, (but, entered, PREVIOUSLY, Legally with an ARANGED-USA-Visa);
                                          (ii) Entered without "An Arranged-USA-Visa/Permit";
                                          (iii) Committed A Serious Crime, in the USA/Abroad, (though, he/she, has been managed, earlier, to enter, in to the USA, Legally with An ARRANGED-USA-Visa).
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                                          We, (the majority of the USA-National-Patriotic-Responssible-Humane-Economical-Positive-minded, USA-Citizens, in the USA), are, here, to support, HONESTLY & STRONGLY, for "An Common-Sense USA-type Humane/Justices, along with the USA-Economical-Growth, for the USA-Citizens", are finding, that,
                                          "The USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements-(for, the already, worked/lived/exploited/over-used/discriminated/abused/distressed/suffered/punished, desperate/hard-working/productive homeless/poor/suffered workers, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA), on the Qualified-Portion of the such of the 11-millions of the foreign-born-workers", would be:-
                                          (i) A Real & Due Humane Economical-Justices, (The USA-Justices, here, in the USA, would be the USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements, on the Qualified-Portion, of them, as soon as possible,
                                          for the Good of the USA-Economical-Strength, for the Good of the USA-Citizens here).
                                          (ii) An USA-Economical-Growth, [to Start up, in 2013, along with "An USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements,
                                          (though & strictly, only, on the qualified-portion of the already worked/lived/suffered/over-used/exploited/discriminated/punished,workers, for more than 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)"]..
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                                          "Some of the USA-Businesses, (in the USA)", HAVE,
                                          already, OVER-USED/Exploited,
                                          "those 11-millions of "The Hard-Working, Cheap, Desperate, Homeless, Productive, Non-Criminal Workers, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in an covered-exploited-system, (under the extreeme Deportation-based-enforcement, so far, in the USA)
                                          I find, that, "all we are urgently supporting the Legalization-Plan, (just to restore the USA-Economical-Strength, as well as the USA-Humanity-Values, and, to bring back more investments, investors, Jobs, USA-Domestic-Production-Business/Individual-Revenue-Building-IRS-Strength-Boost-Up, permanently & gradually.

                                          Made-In-China(and to import it in the USA), is killing the Millions of Jobs, in the USA.

                                          (Legalizations pf 11-millions of Workers, in the USA, in 2013), would bring back, "Thousands of Investors/Investments/Productions/Factory, to produce the 70% of the USA-Consumed Items, within the USA, to ceate a new & future 14 to 16 millions of USA-Domestic-Jobs, for the USA-Citizens.
                                          The Thousands of the Investors(to invest in the USA), "needs the Legal, Cheap Desperate, Hard-Working Economical Productive, USA-Permanent-Resident-Hard-Working-Desperate-Workers, within the USA-Domestic-Production-Factories/Constructions/Agricultural-Industries/etc. (who would be able to compete against the cheap & desperate Workers/Labors, in China/Mexico/India/Russia/Pakistan/Brazil/Argentina/Nigeria/etc., where there is a millions of Cheap, Productive, Hard-Working, Desperate-Workers, working against the USA-Domestic-Productions)".

                                          This would Increase the USA-IRS-Revenues, would increase/add millions of the New & Future better/superior Jobs(for the USA-Citizens), would reduce the USA-Insurance-Costs, would increase Jobs(for the USA-Citizens), in the Housing/Road-Constructions, Car-Manufacturing-Companies, Air-Line-Industry, etc.

                                          The Proposed USA-immigration-Legalization-Enforcement, would increase Millions-More Houses/Cars/Airlines-Sales/Cell-Phone-Plans/Medical-InCare-Plans/etc., (where New & Future Permanent Jobs, for the USA-Citizens, along with the USA-Borders-Constructions-Maintain-Control-Monitoring-Management, to reduce the futurre Illegal-Immigratins in to the USA).

                                          Kindly, Support "Mr. Obama(the First Black-African-American-Civil-Right-Humane-USA-President)", on,

                                          "The USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardons-Enforcements-[though, available, only, for the already, existing & working, in the USA-Businesses, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA, for the economical-betterments of the USA, inirectly, who are, otherwise, the Non-Criminal & Qualified-Portion of the Long-Term USA-Resident/Exploited/Over-Used/already-punished-Workers, in the USA, and, all those, who are to have records, as already serving for the USA-Economical-Revenue-Building-Businesses, in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, as over-used/distressed/exploited/suffered/distressed/abused/discriminated/punished, enough to get an earned-credit based USA-Economical-Humane-Pardons-(Legalization-Enforcements, on them)], WHICH WOULD, FURTHER, finally, BOOST-UP, the USA-Economical-Growth, along with the USA-Job-Growths, in the USA, (for the betterments of the millions of the USA-Citizens, gradually & permanently)" !!!

                                            Reply#68 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:47 AM EST

                                            I have just one question for you concerning these "over-worked", "under-payed", "exploited", "All ready punished" immigrants. Who is holding a gun to their head forcing them to stay here and put up with all of these social problems ? Well make that actually 2 questions. The second question is who held a gun to their head forcing them to come to the United States illegally ? We all make our own choices whether they are legal or not and they made their choice quite clearly.

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                                            #68.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:23 AM EST

                                            their home governments you one-dimensional moron!

                                              #68.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:14 AM EST
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                                              I find it truly amazing that our current leaders like Obama, Bob "like 'em young" Menendez, Luis "Gutless" Guiterrez, Bob "flip-flop" McCain and Rubio keep stating 11 million illegal Aliens when according to other reliable sources there are as many as 20 million illegal aliens currently in the country. Between 11 and 20 million ? That is quite a large discrepency when they are off by 11 million illegal aliens. That is also very scary when a country that is supposed to be as secure like the United States has millions of people that we know nothing about besides the fact that they broke the law when they came here ILLEGALLY inside our country. Let's not forget the thousands if not millions more that are now going to make the journey to be here when this new reform takes place, If it does take place. How many will die at the border ? How many bodies are going to be found ? How many will be murdered ? That's right, These politicians will have blood on their hands because in a way they are enticing these illegal immigrants here with a false promise of a better life and the drug cartels thank you because their new toll rate ( extortion ) has just risen 500% and if they don't pay ? Well just watch a few video-taped murders that are swarming the internet. The USA is making these drug cartels very rich with their proposed amnesty promise. Way to go government, Way to go. More murders to come that's for sure.

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                                              Reply#69 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:49 AM EST

                                              Anyone ever been to Miami? If you don't speak or read Spanish, good luck! Almost every large billboard on the side of the road is in Spanish. I live in central Florida, and when I was renewing my drivers license, the examiner next to me was asking this man to look into the scope and read off the letters. He couldn't! She asked him if he knew English, and he said No. So the examiner pushed him through it. I asked this same examiner if she was going to give this man a Drivers License, even though he couldn't speak or read English, and her reply? Welcome to Florida! I have SO MANY other examples of how our $#$#$#$ our system is today in this country.

                                              IF YOU CANNOT READ OR SPEAK ENGLISH IN THE UNITED STATES, YES THAT INCLUDES MIAMI FLORIDA, THEN LEAVE!!

                                              When I used to work in Colombia South America, I did my very best to respect their culture, which includes language. So ALL immigrants from the Latin world, and other countries as well, learn the Mother tongue of this country, or be deported!!

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                                              Reply#71 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:50 AM EST

                                              OK---he wants to grant amnesty to the illegals? Then so be it---BUT---they have to denounce their birth country, follow OUR laws, pay taxes, pay back taxes and any illegal gotten food stamps, medical, etc. benefits, and THEY MUST LEARN AND SPEAK ENGLISH! They MUST obtain green cards and pay for whatever it costs to stay here legally, PER PERSON--ADULT OR CHILD! Anchor babies will be treated the same way, if either or both parents are illegally here. SECURE THE BORDERS! We DO need immigrants but COME LEGALLY or BECOME LEGAL here and pay the price for YOU breaking the laws. ALL male immigrants MUST sign up for military duty! MINIMUM 4 years! Any immigrant that hides or harbors or aids ANY future illegal immigrants to come to the US or hides, harbors or aids them in ANY WAY, will be deported IMMEDIATELY! The entire family if they know about the illegal activity! They will accept ALL American ways, laws, etc. AND LEARN AND SPEAK ENGLISH! They will not be able to vote or get ANY government/state assistance OF ANY KIND, until they become US citizens either!

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                                              Reply#72 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:51 AM EST

                                              Anyone ever been to Miami? If you don't speak or read Spanish, good luck! Almost every large billboard on the side of the road is in Spanish. I live in central Florida, and when I was renewing my drivers license, the examiner next to me was asking this man to look into the scope and read off the letters. He couldn't! She asked him if he knew English, and he said No. So the examiner pushed him through it. I asked this same examiner if she was going to give this man a Drivers License, even though he couldn't speak or read English, and her reply? Welcome to Florida! I have SO MANY other examples of how our $#$#$#$ our system is today in this country.

                                              IF YOU CANNOT READ OR SPEAK ENGLISH IN THE UNITED STATES, YES THAT INCLUDES MIAMI FLORIDA, THEN LEAVE!!

                                              When I used to work in Colombia South America, I did my very best to respect their culture, which includes language. So ALL immigrants from the Latin world, and other countries as well, learn the Mother tongue of this country, or be deported!!

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                                              Reply#73 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:51 AM EST

                                              I'm always amazed by statements from the White House like this one (from the article above):

                                              "the President has made clear he will move forward if Congress fails to act," ......... because it is clearly intended to plant a seed in the minds of all Liberals and all Hispanics (and others) who automatically take the side of illegals under ANY conditions....... that:

                                              The President will "fight for the Little Guys" no matter what. WHEN IN FACT, his intention is far more obvious and far more insidious than anything of the sort.

                                              The President's intentions are to create a massively huge CIRCLE of CORRUPTION or you might say Total Interdependence of Democrats (remaining in power) and the New American Slave Society (currently Hispanics and other illegal aliens), as well as all those on Welfare, the poor, the uneducated, those living in inner cities, etc. and NOW......for the first time EVER: This President is RAPIDLY creating two related conditions which may make this happen (in far less than eight years).........

                                              1. He is pushing the entire middle class down into the Lower Middle Class and even into poverty, while.....

                                              2. He is spending so much so fast (on Democrats power base) that he WILL crash this economy and the dollar WILL be nearly worthless, in the coming future.

                                              And so, if/when the American people suddenly finds itself with nationwide poverty and soup lines and marshall law and so forth ........... Obama will have achieved his goals of "Fairness" where everyone (except him and a small group of Democrats) are Equal: Equally poor. Equally fully dependent on the government, and equally screwed. The Hispanic community and the Blacks will worship Obama far more than they do NOW; the media will not want to hear a split second of statements like THIS ONE pointing out that this was entirely intentional, and Obama and the Democrats can remain in power for generations to come. Fast forward to a year around 2150 and there MIGHT be a History book stating, "Some speculated at the time that Obama was fully aware of the end results of his efforts to Transform America into a completely different Nation, and he did so in spite of the devastating hardship that hundreds of millions of people suffered as a direct result of his "Fairness" crusade."

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                                              Reply#74 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:52 AM EST

                                              Excellent idea; while we're at it. let's pardon all criminals!

                                              ...Change is coming to Washington!

                                              LOL!

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                                              Reply#75 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:52 AM EST

                                              If we are "An US-Citizens; if we are an USA-Educated, Responssible US-Civilized-Persons", then they are "Not Criminals, but Over-Used/Exploited Discriminated/Punished-Workers of the USA, for the USA".

                                              Crime is that, "We are Criminals, to use the Stuffs, which are not Made-in-USA"!

                                              We are Criminals, "when we allow, today, during the Economical-Deficit-Time, of the USA, to go/pay, related, all the Production-Taxes/Businesses-Taxes/Employee-Taxes, (to produce the our USA-Consumed-Items, in the outside of the USA), to the USA-Rival-Economical-Systems(outside of the USA),

                                              through, "a Suecidal & Stupid, harmful, Deportation-Based-Enforcements on the Cheap/Desperate/Productive/USA-Economical-revenue-Building-Workers, in the USA-Domestic-Industry/s, (TO HELP OUT all of our USA-Rival-Economically-Growing-Countries, against the USA)".

                                              We Import; We Deport the Cheaper/(Hard-Working+Productive)-Workers, from the USA; / We Destroy "the thousands of the Investments & Investors / Factories/Industries/Constructions/Developments/Revenue-Accumulations, in the USA, (by Deporrting the Cheaper, Self-Willing, Hard-Working, Productive, Economical-Workers, from the USA-Job-Places), which are Growing more & more in the USA-Rival-Countries) / We Import, further, more & more;/ We Create more & more USA-Economical-Deficits, (by producing, 80% of the USA-consumed-Stuffs, in all those USA-Rival-Countries / We Suffer, in the USA, "Job-Losses, Revenue-Losses, Investment-Losses", by/with "the jealous-based, stupid,

                                              Deportation-based-Enforcements, on the Cheaper/Economical-Productive/Hard-working/(Self-Willing)/USA-Economical-Revenue-Building-Workers, in the USA".

                                              And, now, (in 2013), "We need to Stop the Corruptions, in the USA-Immigration-System, (which is so far, a corrupted USA-Destroying-Policy, to give the USA-Productions/Dollars/Revenues/Activities, to the USA-Rival-Countries, by/with, the Deportation-Based-Immigration-Enforcemnts on the Cheaper & Economical-Productive-Workers, in the USA)".

                                              We would need a "Change, Turn-Over, on the USA-Immigration-Policies, (which would be to Enforce/Protect, permanently, the few millions of the long time USA-Resident, already, USA-Experienced, Cheaper/Economical, Hard-Working & Productive, Self-Willing, Desperate, USA-Economical-Revenue-Building, Workers, in the USA-Nation-Wide-Domestic-Production-Areas), as soon as possible,

                                              "with the USA-Humane-Economical-immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements(on the cheaper & economical, long-time USA-Resident Productive & Hard-Working, Non-Criminal-Workers, (who are already in the USA, working, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, for the betterments of the USA)" !!!

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                                              Kindly Support the USA-President, (Mr. Obama-2013), on this propose, long-overdue,

                                              "USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements-2013",

                                              (to boost up the USA-National-Economical-Stability-Growth; along with the USA-Domestic-Job-Growths, for the millions of the USA-Citizen-Workers, in the USA) !!!

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                                              I am a Republican; and, my CO WORKERS, are Democrats.
                                              I have a lot of Business/Social Friends, in the USA, who are "Republicans, and, Democrats", who can not wait, now, to see, or, who would urgently be waiting,
                                              "To See the USA-White-House, would enforce, the USA, now, with a Nothing but a most-Common-Sense-USA-Economical-Humane-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements(for the millions of the innocent, hard-working, Long-Term USA-Resident-Workers, in the USA, who does not have USA-Legal-Status, even after they would have workied & lived, in the USA, with a Tough & Abused, discriminated & suffered, non-criminal-life, with less wages, with less-benifits, with no USA-Civil-Rights, for a long-period of time, in the USA, for 8 to 10-years, while serving silently, with pains & discriminations, in the different USA-Businesses, for over a long-period of time, 8 to 10-years, for the covered-benifits of the USA-Businesses/Economics, against/infront of the tough Economical/Business-competitions, from the economically rival-countries of China/India/Mexico/Russia/Brazil/Pakistan/Nigeria/Argentina/Venezuela/Germany/
                                              Korea/etc.)".

                                              We, "The Republicans & Democrats(the 100s of Millions of the USA-Citizens), in 2012-Presidential-Elections / 2013", have been clearly expressed & established,
                                              "Our USA-Humane-Justified-Smart-Economical-Views, to legalize, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, the LONG-TERM, OVER-USED/ EXPLOITED-Population-Portion,
                                              of the 11-millions of the Non-Criminal-portiion of the Long-TermUSA-Resident-Workers,
                                              (who are already have been Over-Used /Exploited, in the USA-Busineses,
                                              for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in a Covered/Exploited System, under the tough Deportation-Based-Enforcement-System, on them, in the last 15-years, in the USA)", [by Selecting & Electing, Mr. Obama, as the USA-President, for the Second-Term, (2013-2016)],
                                              (who wanted to Legalize the millions of the Hard-Working/Suffered/Distressed/Poor/Homeless Cheap & Productive-already-explited-Workers, in the USA, to be processed,
                                              in to an USA-Justified-Patriotic-Economical-Humane-Legalization-Program-Enforcement-Process, during his second-term, 2013-2016).
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                                              They have been Over-Used/Exploited, already, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA, with less wages, without Any USA-Civil-Rights, with tremendous Abuses & Discriminations, in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, (under a Deportation-Only-Enforcement, in the USA, for the last 15+ years, in the USA).
                                              A Good Portion of "these 11+millions of these workers, in the USA, for the USA-Economical-Revenuing-Building-System", are, "already working & living, (and, hence, already, have been abused/exploited/over-used/punished, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)", or, and, "hence, have been over-used/exploited/ punished/discriminated, as an illegal-immigrant-workers, for over 8 to 10+ years, in the USA".

                                              They are "Already Punished, enough, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA";
                                              [and, Honestly Speaking, THEY, ARE, now, probably, ready, to Beg A Pardon(to the USA-Lawmakers/USA-President, to get an USA-Humane-Economical-Patriotic-Justices-(to cancel/waive/exempt, permanently, their proposed Deportation-Orders, on them, if they are to prove as Non-Criminal, for their time & life in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)].
                                              That is "The, long over-due, USA-National-Patriotic-Economical-Humane-Justices-(An USA-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements, on these above 11-millions of
                                              the Long-Term Working/Living/Exploited/Distressed/Poor/Over-Used/Discriminated/already-punished/already-suffered/homeless/helpless, hard-working / cheap/economical/desperate/productive/serving Workers, for the good of the USA, already, for the 8 to 10+ years)".
                                              They are already Punished(for more than the 8 to 10+ years).
                                              Now, "they would honestly & judiciously, must, need an USA-Pardon-(Humane Legalization-Enforcements, on them, towards, an USA-Earned-Credit-Based, USA-Citizenship-Enforcements, on them)".
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                                              Moreover, we, (The Modern & Growing Union of the USA-Patriotic-Responssible, Republicans & DemocratIc USA-Citizen-Groups, with a Majority, on this above USA-National-Patriotic-Responssible-Humane-Smart-Immigration-Economical-Reform-2013), would also must need,
                                              "the Prompt & Quick, Humane & Enhanced Deportation-Only-Enforcements, on the remaining-all-other new & future, Illegal-Immigrants/Peoples, in the USA, (specially, who would be entering/coming, in to the USA, with an Illegal-Immigration-Status, on & after the 31st. December, 2012, the proposed Cut-Off-Date / Deadline-Date, on it), within the first year of it, before they would be over-used/discriminated/exploited, in the USA-Businesses/Factories/Consructions/etc.,areas, for years".[This would include the three types of the Illegal-Immigrant-Peoples,(in the USA):-
                                              (i) Over-Stayed, (but, entered, PREVIOUSLY, Legally with an ARANGED-USA-Visa);
                                              (ii) Entered without "An Arranged-USA-Visa/Permit";
                                              (iii) Committed A Serious Crime, in the USA/Abroad, (though, he/she, has been managed, earlier, to enter, in to the USA, Legally with An ARRANGED-USA-Visa).
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                                              We, (the majority of the USA-National-Patriotic-Responssible-Humane-Economical-Positive-minded, USA-Citizens, in the USA), are, here, to support, HONESTLY & STRONGLY, for "An Common-Sense USA-type Humane/Justices, along with the USA-Economical-Growth, for the USA-Citizens", are finding, that,
                                              "The USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements-(for, the already, worked/lived/exploited/over-used/discriminated/abused/distressed/suffered/punished, desperate/hard-working/productive homeless/poor/suffered workers, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA), on the Qualified-Portion of the such of the 11-millions of the foreign-born-workers", would be:-
                                              (i) A Real & Due Humane Economical-Justices, (The USA-Justices, here, in the USA, would be the USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements, on the Qualified-Portion, of them, as soon as possible,
                                              for the Good of the USA-Economical-Strength, for the Good of the USA-Citizens here).
                                              (ii) An USA-Economical-Growth, [to Start up, in 2013, along with "An USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements,
                                              (though & strictly, only, on the qualified-portion of the already worked/lived/suffered/over-used/exploited/discriminated/punished,workers, for more than 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)"]..
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                                              "Some of the USA-Businesses, (in the USA)", HAVE,
                                              already, OVER-USED/Exploited,
                                              "those 11-millions of "The Hard-Working, Cheap, Desperate, Homeless, Productive, Non-Criminal Workers, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in an covered-exploited-system, (under the extreeme Deportation-based-enforcement, so far, in the USA)
                                              I find, that, "all we are urgently supporting the Legalization-Plan, (just to restore the USA-Economical-Strength, as well as the USA-Humanity-Values, and, to bring back more investments, investors, Jobs, USA-Domestic-Production-Business/Individual-Revenue-Building-IRS-Strength-Boost-Up, permanently & gradually.

                                              Made-In-China(and to import it in the USA), is killing the Millions of Jobs, in the USA.

                                              (Legalizations pf 11-millions of Workers, in the USA, in 2013), would bring back, "Thousands of Investors/Investments/Productions/Factory, to produce the 70% of the USA-Consumed Items, within the USA, to ceate a new & future 14 to 16 millions of USA-Domestic-Jobs, for the USA-Citizens.
                                              The Thousands of the Investors(to invest in the USA), "needs the Legal, Cheap Desperate, Hard-Working Economical Productive, USA-Permanent-Resident-Hard-Working-Desperate-Workers, within the USA-Domestic-Production-Factories/Constructions/Agricultural-Industries/etc. (who would be able to compete against the cheap & desperate Workers/Labors, in China/Mexico/India/Russia/Pakistan/Brazil/Argentina/Nigeria/etc., where there is a millions of Cheap, Productive, Hard-Working, Desperate-Workers, working against the USA-Domestic-Productions)".

                                              This would Increase the USA-IRS-Revenues, would increase/add millions of the New & Future better/superior Jobs(for the USA-Citizens), would reduce the USA-Insurance-Costs, would increase Jobs(for the USA-Citizens), in the Housing/Road-Constructions, Car-Manufacturing-Companies, Air-Line-Industry, etc.

                                              The Proposed USA-immigration-Legalization-Enforcement, would increase Millions-More Houses/Cars/Airlines-Sales/Cell-Phone-Plans/Medical-InCare-Plans/etc., (where New & Future Permanent Jobs, for the USA-Citizens, along with the USA-Borders-Constructions-Maintain-Control-Monitoring-Management, to reduce the futurre Illegal-Immigratins in to the USA)

                                                #75.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:42 AM EST
                                                Reply

                                                Do you really think illegal immigrants want to be American?

                                                  Reply#76 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:55 AM EST

                                                  Legalizing illegals

                                                  Legalizing pot

                                                  Making legal firearms illegal

                                                  Legalizing gay marriage

                                                  Drones in the US skies

                                                  Civilian monitoring

                                                  16 trillion dollar debt

                                                  Record number of welfare recipients

                                                  Record unemployment

                                                  High gas prices while consuming less

                                                  Outrageous food prices

                                                  Never ending Middle East conflict

                                                  Jihad against the West

                                                  Housing crisis still on going

                                                  Out of control government spending

                                                  Rising taxes

                                                  Rising health care costs

                                                  And our government says things are getting better...What show are they watching?

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                                                  Reply#77 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:56 AM EST

                                                  There is a demand for cheap labor in this country, and if the immigration system doesn't get fixed the "illegal" workers will keep coming, and there is no way to stop them, they do not come here to steal anything, just to fill in those spaces and get those jobs that most Americans are not willing to do. America needs those people just as much as they need the American jobs. And please don't forget one simple but very important thing...those 11 million "undocumented" people represent 11 million consumers, so either you guys like it or not...they are "customers" and one thing is for sure...A country just like a business cannot survive without customers. Every time you guys go to the grocery store look at your receipt and notice the line where it says "taxes", well those 11 million people are paying those same taxes on a daily basis, now go to a restaurant, a hotel, or any kind of business where you suspect they hire illegal immigrants, ask the owners for the payroll records and you will find that most immigrants pay their taxes even when they can't get high refunds. Those 11 million people represent millions of houses being rented or purchased, those 11 million people represent millions of cars being sold, those 11 million people represent millions of computers, phones and tablets being sold, if you kick them out...you will be kicking your own butt down the hill. What othe American (because they are Americans too) will work for $7.25 dollars per hour? But I guess you people think low prices happen just magically right? RIGHT?

                                                    Reply#78 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:57 AM EST

                                                    I am a Republican; and, my CO WORKERS, are Democrats.
                                                    I have a lot of Business/Social Friends, in the USA, who are "Republicans, and, Democrats", who can not wait, now, to see, or, who would urgently be waiting,
                                                    "To See the USA-White-House, would enforce, the USA, now, with a Nothing but a most-Common-Sense-USA-Economical-Humane-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements(for the millions of the innocent, hard-working, Long-Term USA-Resident-Workers, in the USA, who does not have USA-Legal-Status, even after they would have workied & lived, in the USA, with a Tough & Abused, discriminated & suffered, non-criminal-life, with less wages, with less-benifits, with no USA-Civil-Rights, for a long-period of time, in the USA, for 8 to 10-years, while serving silently, with pains & discriminations, in the different USA-Businesses, for over a long-period of time, 8 to 10-years, for the covered-benifits of the USA-Businesses/Economics, against/infront of the tough Economical/Business-competitions, from the economically rival-countries of China/India/Mexico/Russia/Brazil/Pakistan/Nigeria/Argentina/Venezuela/Germany/
                                                    Korea/etc.)".

                                                    We, "The Republicans & Democrats(the 100s of Millions of the USA-Citizens), in 2012-Presidential-Elections / 2013", have been clearly expressed & established,
                                                    "Our USA-Humane-Justified-Smart-Economical-Views, to legalize, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, the LONG-TERM, OVER-USED/ EXPLOITED-Population-Portion,
                                                    of the 11-millions of the Non-Criminal-portiion of the Long-TermUSA-Resident-Workers,
                                                    (who are already have been Over-Used /Exploited, in the USA-Busineses,
                                                    for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in a Covered/Exploited System, under the tough Deportation-Based-Enforcement-System, on them, in the last 15-years, in the USA)", [by Selecting & Electing, Mr. Obama, as the USA-President, for the Second-Term, (2013-2016)],
                                                    (who wanted to Legalize the millions of the Hard-Working/Suffered/Distressed/Poor/Homeless Cheap & Productive-already-explited-Workers, in the USA, to be processed,
                                                    in to an USA-Justified-Patriotic-Economical-Humane-Legalization-Program-Enforcement-Process, during his second-term, 2013-2016).
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                                                    They have been Over-Used/Exploited, already, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA, with less wages, without Any USA-Civil-Rights, with tremendous Abuses & Discriminations, in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, (under a Deportation-Only-Enforcement, in the USA, for the last 15+ years, in the USA).
                                                    A Good Portion of "these 11+millions of these workers, in the USA, for the USA-Economical-Revenuing-Building-System", are, "already working & living, (and, hence, already, have been abused/exploited/over-used/punished, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)", or, and, "hence, have been over-used/exploited/ punished/discriminated, as an illegal-immigrant-workers, for over 8 to 10+ years, in the USA".

                                                    They are "Already Punished, enough, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA";
                                                    [and, Honestly Speaking, THEY, ARE, now, probably, ready, to Beg A Pardon(to the USA-Lawmakers/USA-President, to get an USA-Humane-Economical-Patriotic-Justices-(to cancel/waive/exempt, permanently, their proposed Deportation-Orders, on them, if they are to prove as Non-Criminal, for their time & life in the USA, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)].
                                                    That is "The, long over-due, USA-National-Patriotic-Economical-Humane-Justices-(An USA-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements, on these above 11-millions of
                                                    the Long-Term Working/Living/Exploited/Distressed/Poor/Over-Used/Discriminated/already-punished/already-suffered/homeless/helpless, hard-working / cheap/economical/desperate/productive/serving Workers, for the good of the USA, already, for the 8 to 10+ years)".
                                                    They are already Punished(for more than the 8 to 10+ years).
                                                    Now, "they would honestly & judiciously, must, need an USA-Pardon-(Humane Legalization-Enforcements, on them, towards, an USA-Earned-Credit-Based, USA-Citizenship-Enforcements, on them)".
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                                                    Moreover, we, (The Modern & Growing Union of the USA-Patriotic-Responssible, Republicans & DemocratIc USA-Citizen-Groups, with a Majority, on this above USA-National-Patriotic-Responssible-Humane-Smart-Immigration-Economical-Reform-2013), would also must need,
                                                    "the Prompt & Quick, Humane & Enhanced Deportation-Only-Enforcements, on the remaining-all-other new & future, Illegal-Immigrants/Peoples, in the USA, (specially, who would be entering/coming, in to the USA, with an Illegal-Immigration-Status, on & after the 31st. December, 2012, the proposed Cut-Off-Date / Deadline-Date, on it), within the first year of it, before they would be over-used/discriminated/exploited, in the USA-Businesses/Factories/Consructions/etc.,areas, for years".[This would include the three types of the Illegal-Immigrant-Peoples,(in the USA):-
                                                    (i) Over-Stayed, (but, entered, PREVIOUSLY, Legally with an ARANGED-USA-Visa);
                                                    (ii) Entered without "An Arranged-USA-Visa/Permit";
                                                    (iii) Committed A Serious Crime, in the USA/Abroad, (though, he/she, has been managed, earlier, to enter, in to the USA, Legally with An ARRANGED-USA-Visa).
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                                                    We, (the majority of the USA-National-Patriotic-Responssible-Humane-Economical-Positive-minded, USA-Citizens, in the USA), are, here, to support, HONESTLY & STRONGLY, for "An Common-Sense USA-type Humane/Justices, along with the USA-Economical-Growth, for the USA-Citizens", are finding, that,
                                                    "The USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Enforcements-(for, the already, worked/lived/exploited/over-used/discriminated/abused/distressed/suffered/punished, desperate/hard-working/productive homeless/poor/suffered workers, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in the USA), on the Qualified-Portion of the such of the 11-millions of the foreign-born-workers", would be:-
                                                    (i) A Real & Due Humane Economical-Justices, (The USA-Justices, here, in the USA, would be the USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements, on the Qualified-Portion, of them, as soon as possible,
                                                    for the Good of the USA-Economical-Strength, for the Good of the USA-Citizens here).
                                                    (ii) An USA-Economical-Growth, [to Start up, in 2013, along with "An USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements,
                                                    (though & strictly, only, on the qualified-portion of the already worked/lived/suffered/over-used/exploited/discriminated/punished,workers, for more than 8 to 10+ years, in the USA)"]..
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                                                    "Some of the USA-Businesses, (in the USA)", HAVE,
                                                    already, OVER-USED/Exploited,
                                                    "those 11-millions of "The Hard-Working, Cheap, Desperate, Homeless, Productive, Non-Criminal Workers, for more than the 8 to 10+ years, in an covered-exploited-system, (under the extreeme Deportation-based-enforcement, so far, in the USA)
                                                    I find, that, "all we are urgently supporting the Legalization-Plan, (just to restore the USA-Economical-Strength, as well as the USA-Humanity-Values, and, to bring back more investments, investors, Jobs, USA-Domestic-Production-Business/Individual-Revenue-Building-IRS-Strength-Boost-Up, permanently & gradually.

                                                    Made-In-China(and to import it in the USA), is killing the Millions of Jobs, in the USA.

                                                    (Legalizations pf 11-millions of Workers, in the USA, in 2013), would bring back, "Thousands of Investors/Investments/Productions/Factory, to produce the 70% of the USA-Consumed Items, within the USA, to ceate a new & future 14 to 16 millions of USA-Domestic-Jobs, for the USA-Citizens.
                                                    The Thousands of the Investors(to invest in the USA), "needs the Legal, Cheap Desperate, Hard-Working Economical Productive, USA-Permanent-Resident-Hard-Working-Desperate-Workers, within the USA-Domestic-Production-Factories/Constructions/Agricultural-Industries/etc. (who would be able to compete against the cheap & desperate Workers/Labors, in China/Mexico/India/Russia/Pakistan/Brazil/Argentina/Nigeria/etc., where there is a millions of Cheap, Productive, Hard-Working, Desperate-Workers, working against the USA-Domestic-Productions)".

                                                    This would Increase the USA-IRS-Revenues, would increase/add millions of the New & Future better/superior Jobs(for the USA-Citizens), would reduce the USA-Insurance-Costs, would increase Jobs(for the USA-Citizens), in the Housing/Road-Constructions, Car-Manufacturing-Companies, Air-Line-Industry, etc.

                                                    The Proposed USA-immigration-Legalization-Enforcement, would increase Millions-More Houses/Cars/Airlines-Sales/Cell-Phone-Plans/Medical-InCare-Plans/etc., (where New & Future Permanent Jobs, for the USA-Citizens, along with the USA-Borders-Constructions-Maintain-Control-Monitoring-Management, to reduce the futurre Illegal-Immigratins in to the USA)

                                                      Reply#80 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:00 AM EST

                                                      I will say this once about your post ........................... BULL SH!T.

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                                                      #80.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:04 AM EST

                                                      One more time:

                                                      This is for:

                                                      USA-Pariot-Citizens-4-Economical-Immigration-Legalizations!

                                                      Clever of you to give yourself such an officious title in the hopes no one would figure out you are a party of one.

                                                      If you want to write a dissertation you should take a Ph.D program and spare the ordinary commentor/reader of this kind of column. No one is going to read it due to the length and rhetoric!

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                                                      #80.2 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:21 AM EST

                                                      Hitler/Sadam/Hermain Cain/Mitt Romeny was failure, "with the Proposals of Electrified Fence, on the Humane Beings, (which includes you, also, if you are civilized/educated, to know our Human-Civilizatiom-System, properly, as how it works, from the ancient time, to the present, to the future with/without you)".

                                                      You are "Not a Frog of an Well".

                                                      The Civilized-USA is not "An Well, (for a Stupid Frog, who talks against the USA-National-Patriotic-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements-2013)", to make you right, here, with your nonsense Homicide & Destructive Ideas, (which is, probably, only good & better, for the few USA-Rival-Countries)!!!

                                                      It is better that, "You would talk lees, and, 'would follow others, more, to get a better-deal, on you & your family, (while, you are unable to understand, that, what is good or, bad, for you" !!!

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                                                      The USA has got the Immigration-Winning-Presidential-Heroes(Reagan/Senior Bush/Clinton/Bush-Junior/Obama), the "Winning-Presidents of the USA, (who has been always advocated, strongly, on behalf of the USA-Humane-Economical-Immigration-Legalization-Pardon-Enforcements, on the Hard-Working, Cheaper, Economical, Productive, Desperate, Self-Willing Workers, who have been worked for the betterments of the USA-Economical-Health, for more than the 8 to 10+ years), to make the betterments of the USA-Economical-Revenue-Building-Scheme".

                                                      The all recent winning USA-Presidents are "The Most USA-Patriotic-Responssible, Wise & Smart Persons, of the USA", to lead the USA, (for the betterments of the 340-millions+ USA-Citizens).

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                                                      If "Anyone, would sound, against all these USA-National-Patruiotic-Responssible-Presidential-Personalities, in the USA", then, he/she, would be:-

                                                      (i) Homicide & Traitor;

                                                      (ii) Not-Educated & Not USA-Educated, Not USA-Civilized;

                                                      (iii) Not USA-Patriotic & USA-Rival;

                                                      (iv) Against "The USA-Presidents";

                                                      (v) Not Acceptable;

                                                      (vi) Danger for the USA-Economical-Growth.

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                                                        #80.3 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:14 AM EST
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                                                        Immigration rule and regulation is extremely unfair.

                                                        If you are from a "favored" country, let say Great Britain, it is easier for you to get a visa to get here. But if you are from a poorer country it is far more difficult.

                                                        The requirements for visa are very hard for those who work in 3rd world countries or latin america.

                                                        They have to show work history, bank account with so much money into it, own property.

                                                        Then they have to pay fees, for us in the US these fees may seem small, but for those in latin america, they are extravagantly high, without guarantee that they will get a visa, fees has to be paid prior to interview.

                                                        That is why so many chose to cross illegally, they do not stand a chance to get a visa granted, NOT because they ares criminals, only because they are poor working stiff.

                                                        Our immigration system is unfair and need to be return to the original plan, anyone that want liberty, pursuit of happiness can get here as long as they are not criminals, terrorist and so on.

                                                        Our government is wrong on only wanting the best of the best to come here, we were to be the light of freedom of the world, what happened???

                                                        I speak from experience, tried to get my fiancee here from Peru, paid fees after fees and nothing, contacted our state department for assistance and nothing. after 3 years we gave up.

                                                        We need to make rules for everyone, fees based on that country average income levels not ours.

                                                        Everyone deserve a chance to come here and live free.

                                                          Reply#81 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:01 AM EST

                                                          SAPPER69: Everyone deserve a chance to come here and live free.

                                                          Why? Only those who live in the United States deserve to "live free"?

                                                            #81.1 - Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:08 AM EST
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