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Kevin Lamarque / Reuters
Former Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee to be defense secretary, on Capitol Hill, Jan. 31, 2013.
Senate Republicans on Thursday stalled further work on confirming former Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., as the next secretary of defense, likely prolonging the fight over the Pentagon nominee for at least another week and a half.
The Senate voted 58 to 40 to end debate on Hagel's nomination, falling short of the 60-vote threshold they needed to move toward a final confirmation vote, and subjecting the former Republican senator to an unprecedented, de-facto filibuster. Four Republicans supported Hagel and one GOP senator voted present, though Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., switched his vote to "no" in a procedural move to be able to bring up Hagel's nomination at a later date.
Related: Five lessons we've learned from the Hagel fight
The vote is only a temporary setback for the White House, which still views Hagel’s eventual confirmation as a likely proposition. President Barack Obama said in a Google+ hangout shortly after the vote that his "expectation and hope" is that Hagel would eventually be confirmed.
“Senator Hagel is going to be confirmed, if not tomorrow then when the Senate returns from recess,” a White House official said Thursday. (The Senate is away from Washington next week and is scheduled to return for work as soon as Feb. 25.)
The Obama administration’s confidence is rooted in statements Thursday by a number of Republicans who have said they intend to switch their vote after the recess and support moving toward a final vote for Hagel.
NBC's Kelly O'Donnell shares the latest news about Chuck Hagel's confirmation vote.
The delay still incensed Democrats, though, who argued that the delay was without precedent and risked leaving the military essentially leaderless during a time of war and as major cuts to the defense budget loom. (Outgoing Secretary Leon Panetta continues to serve in his role until Hagel is confirmed, though he had intended to finish his service this week.)
"I'm going to go call Chuck Hagel when I finish here and say, 'I'm sorry,'" Reid said after the cloture vote. He set another cloture vote for Tuesday Feb. 26.
Indeed, the White House scrambled for much of the afternoon to find the handful of Republican votes that would have allowed for Hagel’s confirmation this week. They released a letter in response to GOP senators’ questions about the administration’s response to the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on a diplomatic posting in Benghazi, Libya, and Vice President Joe Biden worked the phones in hopes of finding the necessary votes to overcome the de-facto filibuster.
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The 60-vote threshold means that Hagel’s nomination is, in effect, being subjected to a filibuster. Because Republicans are objecting to ending debate – often a formality in the Senate, where lawmakers give their “unanimous consent” to moving forward with a vote – Democrats must deliver the same 60 votes that they would need under the circumstances of a filibuster to end debate on the Hagel nomination.
Republicans argued that they were not orchestrating a formal filibuster against Hagel – a maneuver which would be unprecedented in the instance of a nominee for the secretary of defense position.
Some GOP senators – led by Sens. John McCain, Ariz., and Lindsey Graham, S.C. – said that they just needed a little more time to thoroughly vet Hagel’s background, despite having served with the former Nebraska senator during the bulk of his two terms in the Senate. Graham and McCain argued that they needed more time than the two days that have elapsed since the armed services panel approved Hagel’s nomination for consideration by the whole Senate.
This story was originally published on Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:56 PM EST
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The GNOP has taken their hostage, now we have to wait another week for the ransom note...
Simply PRICELESS!
It would be funny if it wasn't so damn pathetic...
Hang tough Chuck!
The Obama administration’s confidence is rooted in statements today by a number of Republicans who have said they intend to switch their vote after the recess, and support moving toward a final vote for Hagel.
This really makes no sense to me. Why, if they are going to switch their vote after they take a little vacay, couldn't they just finish this off today? Why leave our country's welfare flapping in the wind this way?
Republicans SUCK!
Anything to stall. The only thing worse than a divided congress is one that gets nothing done at all. I think we've seen enough and in 2014, these clowns are going to pay for it at the polls, gerrymandered districts or not.
These @!$%#s are praying they will uncover a "smoking gun" to use against Hagel over the next week!
Why are they taking another week off???
My guess is that someone still needs a tummy rub or some butt plug remover. Remember, they are all off next week to host tea parties with a bunch of stale crumpets.
This just doesn't make any sense.
Hagel will make USA a paper tiger, even Panetta is much better than him. We are going to have an enemy in the DOD.
From here, where I sit, it looks like the Republicans will do, say and try every dirty trick in the book to stop our elected president from doing any thing at all. Like Gomer Pile said, SHAME SHAME SHAME.
It is no wonder the Republican party is dying . When will the politicians represent the people rather then special interests and themselves . . Minimum wage . . some politicians deserve less or no pay at all. . . . . As always . . Nuff Said !
Well, Harry, how did that deal on speaking filibusters work out for you? Didn't take the Pukes long to go back to their usual behavior, did it. Color me "Not Surprised" when they pull the same stunt again and again, just like they've been doing for years. Nice going, Harry.
I don't even give a crap about Hagel. He was a Puke just like the rest of them when he was in the senate. The only thing that would be a Win here is if the War Department gets its budget cut about 50%.
Hey, GOP: Got obstruction?
Yep. Seems that's ALL you got.
You are behaving like petulant children.
The world is laughing at you... And wondering at us.
"statements today by a number of Republicans who have said they intend to switch their vote after the recess, and support moving toward a final vote for Hagel."
I think the operative word here is "recess". Hope they can find time for their juice boxes and cookies and get in some quality time on the monkeybars and swings in between all their other childish games......
Republicans again prove they are lowlife gutter trash and aren't competent to lead even slow turtles across a two-lane country road. The GOP is the most disgusting group of old perverts I've ever seen and are a total embarrassment to the United States.
This WILL NOT be forgotten!
So now they want the ‘name’ of who changed the talking points that were presented by Susan Rice.
Just another witch hunt that leads nowhere important, that does nothing to prevent future attacks. What is important about who it is other than to have them terminated?
Reid could have stopped this FAKE filibuster business three years ago and again just a month ago, but he doesn't want the "Senate to be like the House." A false premise in the first place. If you just make these idiots get on their feet and really filibuster, you will see far fewer filibusters and the Senate will still be different from the house which has no filibusters, fake or otherwise!
Everyone said after the last election the GOP would learn it's lesson. We obviously see they have no intention on letting up on ANY Democrat proposed idea. Hope they enjoy this while they can. Come 2014, they are going to suffer mightily at the polls to the point they won't have the votes in the Senate to filibuster, and they'll once again see Nancy Pelosi sitting behind the President at the State of the Union.. Evidence "rising star" Marco Rubio's pathetic speech the other night, and Rand Paul's ludicrous statements. If they are the best the GOP has to offer, that is a party in deep. The GOP is so far out of touch with reality I'm sure Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave. The only thing they care about is themselves and party - they could give a flip less about their constituents or this country. Enough is enough.
Roger wasn't Gomer Pyle 'gay' also ?
In my opinion Hagal, Brennan or anyone else that is dirty with the blood stains of Benghazi should not be even considered for Secretary of Defense and or CIA Director. Both these guys are hip deep in the Benghazi Cover up. Nixon was tried for a far lesser crime. Brennan caused an "Asset" to die and the Politicians want to wave this through. Both Republicans and Democrats are delaying the process until "We the People" stop our vigilance.
Because he does not want to blow up the World!
Hagel lobby for Muslims
Hagel appeared before the Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) on June 13, 2008, serving as keynote speaker at the group’s convention that year. The specific session the former two-term Nebraska senator addressed was a fundraising reception for ADC’s political action committee.Researchers at the Investigative Project on Terrorism have also compiled evidence that Hagel spoke frequently to pro-Arab audiences in 2007, a time that predates the period which the nominee was required to flesh out on his confirmation forms.
Awww, the Left are so persecuted..
Please provide evidence that Hagel had anything to do with Benghazi?
You seem to know something the rest of us don't...
While you're at it, give us some credible sources for the supposed "cover up"?
Thanks!
Same phony unhonorable theatrics.
Can't touch the president so malign the innocent that are close to him. That list is one loooooong list.
What does the future hold for our unhonorable republican party? They MUST save face. How?
Hagel didn’t hold any office when Benghazi went down.
You mean the one certain Republicans and FOX are still trying to keep alive? That horse ran away awhile ago and it ain't coming back.
The filibuster is not in the constitution. When it used to be used, they had to stand and talk to delay the vote. Now it is the most abused procedure in government.
Hey skywalker, pull your head out of Oscar's ass. What did Chuck Hagel have to do with Benghazi? Pay attention!
How many of you right-wing crazies on here could withstand the intense scrutiny that these people are subjected to? How many of you can say there isn't a skeleton in your closet which would survive this kind of crap? Most people don't come out of the womb knowing they will someday run for public office. Hypocrites, all of you!
Good on you Senate GOP!
Dennis,
Doesn't stop the right wing nuts from spreading their rumors...
AG,
Makes you wonder who the 3 morons are that agree with him! LOL
Skywalker - another blithering idiot heard from. Hagel had NOTHING to do with Benghazi! MORON!
oskar-1391552 - Do you have a source for this - OTHER than the Fox News website, because when I Google it, that's the only place I can find it, and even that story says it cannot find "contents of his speeches". Give us a secondary source please.
What's your point oskar other than you're an outright bigot? We have many allies in the Middle East that are Arabic and Muslim too. We are not at war with them. SO, what's your point?
That is certainly a laughable statement . . . and even if they were involved in anyway, that issue should have died a week after it happened....
Feisty Redhead is correct in asking the question . . .
Republicans think this diverts attention away from real issues that they have no intention of solving. The days of the " Good Ole Boys party " are about over. . . . . . .Nuff said !
If the Republicans had presented for confirmation anyone with Hagel's background, the Democrats would have blown him out of the chair the FIRST DAY.
It is amazing the height of hypocrisy the liberal mind can attain.
When a Republican stumbles, both sides of the aisle pile on.... if it's a Democrat, they are protected from and scorn from the right & are praised by the left fro their "human side"
the ransom note reads: Liberals pull your heads out of your collective azzes and we'll talk.
like the economy..oh wait, the liberal Communist DNC are diverting attention away from that real issue
Election 2014 promises to be the highest voter turnout in midterm election history. The American electorate was far too generous and trusting in 2010. They will correct that mistake (in huge numbers) very shortly.
Perfect.
The Democrats now have their chickens home to roost.
Consider this your 'thank you' for blocking SCOTUS nominees in committee without allowing a proper vote.
Steven B - consider this the opening salvo for the demise of the Republicans in Congress in 2014! Oh, and they'll all get the proper vote!
New name of the Depatment of Defense........Department of Drones.
From here on out, all Republican cabinet positions get filibustered.
McCain, Graham, Ayotte:
Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!
What does this have to do with Hagel? He wasn't even part of the administration during that event.
Steve-44,
Chuck Hagel is a 2 term Republican Senator – not a Democrat
Republicans are eating their own, again
Excellent job GOP! LMAO! Go team!
I would want to know about his part in the Presidents Intelligence Advisory Board. This is where any Benghazi problems would arise. Granted my beef with him is lesser than with Brennan. Given the choice I would let him squeak through over Brennan any day. I am an independent so I am loyal to neither party and question and mistrust both. I am no lover of politicians. They usually sell you out no matter which side of the isle they are on.
Get over it Feisty and the other clueless.
We can't all be mindless sheep giving anything Obama wants a rubber stamp without questioning it.
Like watching a snake eat its tail... ☺
Skywalker - again, Hagel had NOTHING to do with Benghazi. And, funny thing is he's a Republican. Again, Republicans cut their own throats and eat their own!
What I have noticed over the last several presidential elections is that, very early on in the running, the Republican candidates make a BIG show of their support of the military. They go to military bases. They go to the Raytheon, Martin Marietta and McDonald Douglas plants. There is always talk about VietNam and other conflicts, etc.
They do all this to show that they support the military industrial complex and, in fact, rely on it as a primary source of their money and power.
The RepubliCons are @!$%#ting bricks right now over Hagel's view of the non-necessity of our hyper inflated military budgets. They will do everything in their power to keep him from being confirmed.
But, hey - let's keep the party going.
Hi, Jack!
These GOP senators hijack a plane - called US government.
Someone remind me again why we didn't reform the filibuster? Wasn't it some lie about a gentleman's agreement not to abuse it in the future? Harry Reid is to senile for his job anymore. Fire him, and get reform passed.
They released a letter in response for GOP senators’ questions about the administration’s response to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on a diplomatic posting in Benghazi, Libya,
ATTN: Michael O'Brien, Reporter of this article
Proof read much?
GregDH
thats why Fisty and Seeking Approval post daily. to convince the other ovis aries to follow along..just like squealer in animal farm.. no real fact, no real dialog. just vitriol and mindless chatter and the Obama thralls all moan along in unison.
I am Independent. That means I am Neither Democrat or Republican. If you all end up being correct than I would have no problem. But it does not hurt to ask about his term in the President Intelligence Advisory Board.
Did you see Ted Cruz during Hagel's confirmation hearing? What a whack job...
I don't worry about the childish things Republicans do anymore . . . The voters showed in the last election that they are tired of their obstruction. The same people are still paying attention and will show their distaste once again in the mid-terms. Sit back Feisty and watch the carnage, I will do it from the cheap seats and save a few bucks for popcorn!
So now the GOP is playing politics with America's national defense at a time when we still have a war going on. Is this priceless or not.
These fools should be held under sedition. They are definitely interfering, and actually rebelling against governing, for no apparent reason except to flex their little muscles, while America needs a Sec Def.
Hagel is not a war-hawk, and the core of the republicans on capitol hill can't stand that, along with their war company lobbyists.
oskar-1391552
Hagel will make USA a paper tiger, even Panetta is much better than him. We are going to have an enemy in the DOD.
You sir are the biggest idiot in the room.
Chuck Hagel served us in Nebraska very well over the years and will continue to serve his country as Secretary of Defense. He received two Purple Hearts in Vietnam and founded a business.
Just wondered if this guy Ted Cruz ever served in the military? Another rude, ignorant and useless waste of time from the Tea Party clown car.
Behngzi, is the "new" birther movement, same biggots, nothing new.
This is nothing other than politicking at its best and the Democrats are milking it to the fullest. If they wanted to have Hagel confirmed, he would have been confirmed. But why rush, why not focus on the Republicans and paint them as evil and dysfunctional, when and while they can. The tactics of the last 4 years, applied so successfully then, are in play again.
The style of government that served us well in the past is no longer suitable for the “progressive democrat” policies of today! This was obvious immediately, from the time President Obama was elected. The only thing standing in the way of him totally destroying our system of government is that he hasn’t found a way to do it, yet.
When are we as Americans going to wake up to the fact Republicans don't care about the working class or the security of our troops or country. They want to keep us uneducated so the top paying jobs will continue going to millionaires%2
Oscar, tell me, how many of our servicemen/women would you rather had died to accomplish the amount of damage done by drones?
Did any of you watch and listen to his confirmation hearing? Yet you are still in favor of his nomination! I suggest you look at his responses again, and wish you could see him as he responds to questions. Then some of you blame Republicans for playing games, but fail to see that Demcrat Reid voted no, so that he can play in the very same game!
"thats why Fisty and Seeking Approval post daily. to convince the other ovis aries to follow along..just like squealer in animal farm.. no real fact, no real dialog. just vitriol and mindless chatter"
Uhhhh........WHAT, again?? Good one CA. As usual, of course.
Hello folks, what do you expect from a broken system? Last time I checked Hagel is a Republican. Republicans are now eating their own. Both parties are corrupt. DC has turned into the Beltway Reality Show. I wonder when Kim Kardashian and Snooki will provide a guest appearance?
Other than a few social issues what's the difference between the Democrats and Republicans?
We have a one headed two-party system that pursues the mechanizations of globalism in tandem, not in contest. When both parties have the same desires and goals, when both parties collude to remove civil liberties rather than protect them, and when both parties are funded by the same corporate backers, there is no such thing as change through the process of elections. Anyone who claims that government corruption can be punished through the ballot box hasn't the slightest clue how our system really functions. They think we are still living in the original "America," one that values the voice of the people.
When the government decides to push through banker bailouts, the Patriot Act, FISA, the National Defense Authorization Act, National Defense Resources Preparedness, assassinate American Citizens, lay siege to our 2nd and 4th amendments etc., all while ignoring opposition by a vast majority of citizens, it is clear that the paradigm has shifted and the American value of representation by and for the people is lost.
So really, don't you feel silly choosing sides in the corrupt religion called politics?
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Feisty, actually what these @!$%#s are doing is making their demise much easier day by day.
Now, what was it again, exactly that Hagel did to mess up the Benghazi thing?
Of course it's maddinging now, fellow American Citizens, but just think how much this is helping defeat the enemies of the people come 2014. Let's sit tight, and enjoy, even though we know it's total and complete bovine-turdiosis (agian) from the right.
Wouldn't happen to be a Republican chickenhawk would you?
SGT Chuck Hagel
2nd Battalion, 47th Infantry Regiment
9th Infantry Division
Republic of Vietnam
Purple Heart (2)
Army Commendation Medal
Vietnamese Gallantry Cross
Combat Infantryman Badge
On another note: I hear Rice had a introspective moment, and declared that all along, she knew the truth: Space Aliens were responsible for Benghazi.
Now, don't we all feel better? Now, doesn't that make the 4 dead Americans alive again??
Geez- I could be a guest contributor to Fox, couldn't I?? God knows, I have the logical thought process down.
When are we as Americans going to wake up to the fact Republicans don't care about the working class or the security of our troops or country. They want to keep us uneducated so the top paying jobs will continue going to millionaires kids and friends. Just imagine if working class Americans could afford to have the same education as the wealthy among us, we would be able to compete for their jobs. Yes, there has been a few from the working class have made but only a few. The Republicans don't even want to raise the minimum wage which tells me they think earning $7.25 an hour is good enough for the 47% of Americans. Americans need to take a long hard look at what the Republicans want for us working class Americans. They have and are still proving that they are the party of the corporations and will do what ever they need to do to keep Americans uneducated so they can have cheap labor and hundreds of thousands who will join the military so they can make a living. Americans need to use their voice and tell their elected officials to start working for the betterment of all Americans.
Steve, uh, well I guess it says something about you but I might point out that Hagel is a . So let's see if it was a republican idea dems would be all against it. But if it is a republican idea then republicans are all over it. Wow, I'm confused. Is your party off that cruise boat yet, it sure smells like they got back in the country doesn't it.
Chorus:
Glen Beck: "I'M afraid of EVERYTHING"
LaPierre: "no, I AM"
Glen Beck: "no, ME"
LaPierre: "no, ME"
repeat from top.
Dear Useful Idiots, Don't get you pantie's in a knot. Your little puppet Hagel will get in. You Nazi's have full control of our one party Government. Geez take a break from your hysteria just for one day. Can you?
As a military brat whose father retired as an enlisted man after twenty years and having experienced the seperation of the ranks I can tell you this man becoming the head of the pentagon has me cracking up.
Winker, yes, a person who has worked for corporations might just wonder why rich people's kids keep getting hired into the company without previous executive experience and at extreme salaries?? I have seen enough as they cover up for themselves but none know the first thing about the company's products or it's customers. I think more people should quit taking what's handed to them and ask what is going on. It is time to push some buttons. 1% raises seem to be a universal thing in the corporate world these days except for the disconnected execs?? If a company no longer values people that bring a lot of money into a company these then I am pretty sure the competition would love to have them. Take that 1% and shove it.
I hope Hagel eventually gets confirmed as Defense Sec. He's certainly a better pick than torture/kill posterboy John Brennan for CIA. Brennan? Seriously? He has been and always will be a neo-con stooge.
*****WARNING - IRONY ALERT*****
Keep crying libies , this is so sweet. Get your own medicine, filibuster is a Democrat baby.
Lord, we sure see a lot of Benghazi nuts here all from the party that landed us in a War based on lies and falsehoods then not fund it and kill 10,000, yes 10,000 (which for the math challenged is way more than 4). So the country ends up in a horrible situation (funny the Russians went to Afghanistan before we did and it broke them as it has done to us). Ok have fun i'm off this thread.
don't we have enough of obama butt kissers in power yet?Dems or Rep
it was plain English or should I have use a form of slavic? Da Comrade
Where is Glen Beck anyways and yet you guys still fear that moron....You libtards are funny when you chase your tails
Winker…1.62
“ They want to keep us uneducated so the top paying jobs will continue going to millionaires%2”
They?? Have you heard of motivation, self drive? There are many ways you can educate yourself and climb the ladder so one day you too can become a millionaire. You don’t have to wait for the government to deliver education to you on a silver platter because that will never happen. Responsibility for one’s destiny rests with you, not the government
This is how you negotiate Mr. President. If you want something, you have to give something. Stand fast Republicans. You are going to need the Benghazi dirt on Mrs. Clinton for 2016. I even recommend you "leak" the classified report.
Read carefully what some dumba$$ posted yesterday.
So basically what they're saying is the United States will be left without a secretary of defence, even though several senators plan to change their vote to yes when his confirmation comes up after the recess. Absolutely ridiculous. Apparently the GOP are so tough on defence they feel it's okay to leave the top defence position in the country empty for literally no reason.
Seriously, if the Republicans ever manage to take the Senate, I am going to just sit here rubbing my fingers with glee at the sight of their entire base taking to the internet with outrage because "WAAAAAAHHHHHHH, THEY'RE FILIBUSTERING US!!!!" That's assuming they aren't hypocritical enough to just get rid of the filibuster using the nuclear option in the exact way they called Harry Reid a dictator for thinking about doing last month.
True, you can always choose to rack up a nice little 6 figure debt.
Hey ben, wait till Field spouts 'but he had enough votes until...stop obsession over the countries demise....'
Fox isnt the news for dumfux, NBC and FR is...
Hail to Caesar LOL!!!! I said last September, they needed to pin Benghazi where it belonged -- on Mrs. Clinton. They missed the chance then but I hope they stand fast now.
Republicans will not allow a vote until they get information on the Benghazi coverup. There was no Benghazi coverup, and therefore there is no information to give them on it. Catch 22, Washington gridlock style.
you are in the wrong country if you think Gov should provide you an education. You Libs want craddle to the grave care and handouts. This country was built on blood, sweat, tears and innovation.. you want each according to you need and skill GO TO FVCKING RUSSIA
@Nathan -- If Benghazi wasn't a cover-up, it was a horrible clusterf%$K by the State Department and handled incompetently.
"Americans died and Hillary lied."
Republicans look at Hagel as a trader to their party, from love to hate overnight !!!
The GOP-TP are killing our Nation, how much more can we take - its getting crazy !!!
Come on folks...sing along:
"Oh...poor...pitiful me, oh poor pitiful me. These ol' Democrats won't let me be...lord have mercy on me...oh...woe is me!"
No thanks, I got it covered. Save it for the red state welfare folks.
Chucky…1.86
No you don’t!!
Have you heard of or considered being a tradesperson like plumber, tiler, bricklayer, renovator, welder, carpenter, landscaper, roofer etc. There are many other trades that one can do, to build oneself up. Did you also know that many well off, including millionaires had nothing but a basic education to start off with, and they worked their guts off to be where they are?
Good for the Republicans, finally showing some huevos! Meanwhile Barack O. Bama is still out on the campaign trail! Can anyone tell me when was the last time Barry actually worked at the position he was elected to...? What has he done?
Hipocltal??????
Miguel Angel
Estrada Castañeda (born
September 25, 1961) is an attorney who became embroiled in controversy
following his 2001 nomination by President George W.
Bush to the United States
Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Senate Democrats, claiming
Estrada was a conservative ideologue with no experience as a judge, and unable
to block his nomination in the Senate Judiciary Committee after the Republican Party took
control of the Senate in 2002, used a filibuster
to prevent his nomination from being given a final confirmation vote by the
full Senate.
Priscilla
Owens was nominated on
May 9, 2001 by President George W. Bush to fill a vacancy on the Fifth
Circuit created by Judge William Lockhart Garwood, who had taken Senior status
on January 23, 1997. Senate Democrats immediately decided to block her
nomination for two reasons. First, the Democrats were angry that two previous
nominees that President Clinton had nominated to Garwood's empty seat, Jorge Rangel
and Enrique
Moreno, were never given hearings by the U.S. Senate
during Clinton's second term because the Senate was at the time controlled by
Republicans. Second, they considered her to be too conservative.
As a result, the Senate Democrats, who controlled the Senate Judiciary Committee during the 107th
Congress did not let Owen's nomination come up for a vote. In 2003,
after Republicans had taken the Senate back, Democrats filibustered
her.
Charles W. Pickering , on May 25,
2001, during the 107th Congress, U.S. President George W.
Bush nominated Pickering for a seat on the United States
Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit vacated by Henry Anthony Politz who had taken senior status
in 1999, but Pickering's nomination was not acted upon favorably by the Senate Judiciary Committee then under the
control of Democratic senator, Patrick Leahy,
a Vermont
Democrat. Nevertheless, on January 7, 2003, President Bush renominated
Pickering to the same position. With the Republicans now in charge of the
committee during the 108th Congress, Pickering's nomination was
voted out to the full Senate. With no way to stop his confirmation, the Senate
Democrats chose to filibuster
Pickering in order to prevent him from receiving a straight up-or-down
confirmation vote.
Judge Kuhl, on
June 22, 2001, was nominated by President George W.
Bush to a seat on the United States
Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit vacated by the Judge James R.
Browning who had taken senior status
in 2000. Despite being rated "Well Qualified" by the American Bar Association,[2]
her nomination was not processed during the Democratic-controlled 107th
Congress due to pressure from several women's groups. Rather, it
became stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee under the
leadership of then chairman, Senator Patrick Leahy,
D-VT.
The Democrats
decided to filibuster Kuhl in order to prevent her from having a
confirmation vote. Her nomination was filibustered on November 14, 2003 when
the Senate failed to end debate with a 53-43 cloture vote,
which fell 7 votes shy of the 60 needed to overcome the filibuster.
Susan Neilson was nominated to a Michigan seat on the United States
Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit by President George W.
Bush on November 8, 2001, to replace Judge Cornelia Groefsema Kennedy, who had taken senior status
in 1999. On the same day, Bush also nominated Henry Saad
and David W. McKeague to Michigan seats on the
Sixth Circuit. On June 26, 2002, Bush nominated Richard Allen Griffin to a fourth
Michigan seat on the Sixth Circuit. During the Democrat-controlled 107th
Congress, all four nominations were stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee by then
chairman, Senator Patrick Leahy, D-VT……………………………..
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@Seaskip -- What was Hagel a "trader" of -- beaver pelts?
WTF??? HUH????
Com-on folks.....
Mr. Obama announced this morning to a group of college kids on the Internet that HIS ADMINISTRATION is the most TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY.
Mr. Hagel is just carrying that torch for him.
Gotta hand it to the Progressives......Deny, Deflect, and Blame someone else. Yeah, that will work well.
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HUH ????? // Hipocltal // ......just testing the Wisconsin school system.
Why yes I have. In fact I run a program teaching troubled youth historic preservation carpentry, thanks to a government grant.
Gee, it's not surprising that you are not getting the full story here on the Obama network. Imagine that they totally omitted that more questions needed to be answered. But, from the people who support the concept that you have to pass a bill to know what is in it, it's not surprising. It's really such a shame that our education system has done such a poor job of educating the students. But, then again, these are the same people who think that a video is responsible for the death of an American Ambassador and 3 others. At least the Obama media admit that they no longer have any pretense of being impartial. After all, about all they can handle is asking Obama what to say and repeating it. Then it's time for a good night's sleep.
Funny thing is, I do wonder if any of them seriously thought that being a reporter meant repeating the party line. As opposed to being more like Woodward and Bernstein and asking real questions and doing actual investigative work.
thats not true..you insinuate your love of craddle to gravew with this little gem
in regards to getting education.
Render Unto Caesar
Caesar - Fear Glenn Beck? Hardly. We love him and hope he makes a come back - maybe team up with Ted Nugent.
Hey Ben, thanks, hope I can sleep that off - "Traitor" !!!
LET THEM FILIBUSTER THEN. If they threaten it, make them stand up and read the phone book or the bible, or whatever!
They threaten the filibuster, and then the other side caves.
MAKE THEM FILIBUSTER!
C'mon Caesar, are you denying the fact that anyone can choose to go into massive debt if they wish an education? It's easy, and it sure makes the banksters happy, especially those loans that are guaranteed by the gubmint. We can make'em start right out of college in debt slavery. Admit it, that thought makes you all tingly doesn't it?
funny how the left tards bring this guy up...is he even on the air? at least the right doesnt bring up Olberman, he became insignificant..but the left...scared of Nugent and Beck, guns, success, responsibility, intelligence, Fox News, republicans, morals, God, etc. Need i go on...
here is a novel idea, how bout you pay it back? SHOCK*.... nope, you occutards want your flat screens, iPhones, Escalades, 2500 sq ft home, bling in the grill etc. all on the back of someone else
caesar,
Your ignorance is shining brightly today.
and Chucky, feel free to grab you pitchfork, torch and manifesto and hit the streets...
Occutards? Heh heh, how very 2011 of you. Nope, I prefer Idle No More. C'mon dude, at least try to be current.
Given that conservatives swore up and down to never filibuster a cabinet position, we now know the value of a conservative's word.
Winker
What? Huh?
So according to you, the only people who go to college are the descendants of Millionaires? There is no doubt you are not one of those descendants.
I guess I must have been an exception.
Chucky
You do understand that you can WORK YOUR WAY through college? People have been doing it for years without accruing 6 figures of debt. It may take a little longer, yet 9 times out of 10 it will pay off in the Long Run...
Unless, of course, your one of those lefties who think you entitled to be CEO as soon as you graduate.
lol... again? and who said Somolian Pirates are dying?
They (Rapid-licans) should be Recalled and charged with Treason. WE are at war! North Korea has its goal to reach the U.S.with its nuclear rockets! Iran is not far behind! And these MORONS play games with our National Defense. We NEED a Sec. of Defense....Now Not Next week but NOW. I have Emailed my 2 COWARDLY Senator's. BTW neither of them Served in the Military.
Please REMEMBER this in 2014. Throw the BUMS OUT!
Your optimism reminds me or the same optimism shared by the liberals of 1913.
And now, as then, the comfy liberals assumed that the rest of the world would surely seek the same goals as the 'progressive' crowd.
Oops.
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"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?" (hillary clinton,2013.
The saddest part about this is that there are people who honestly don't see this for what it is: The Republicans disrupting government again. They are completely blind to anything bad their party may do, and always blame everything on the other party by default. Record levels of filibuster have been used by the Republican party since Obama came to office, when the entire filibuster rule is foolish to begin with and shouldn't exist. Our esteemed government has clearly shown they can't handle it, and will abuse it when convenient.
Why can't they quit obsessing over their party "morals" and actually help run the government instead of bring it down. They were elected by the people to help run it, not to turn our nation into a dysfunctional laughing stock.
It's interesting how NBC's article about Obama not being able to pay for his programs (which hits at the heart of the biggest issue in our country - the economy) was posted on the website for all of 28 seconds... while an article about Hagel the clown is not only spun as Republicans being obstructionists (as opposed to presenting the viable argument that this guy is simply unqualified) - and is posted on the website for a full day.
Yet another reason why NBC is tied for last with the Comedy Channel when it comes to being trusted to deliver the news (both trusted by a whopping 5%). You can't make this up, folks. So NBC, if you wonder why how to improve your ratings from the sh*tter, try becoming a real, credible news network. Otherwise, enjoy being as trusted as the Comedy Channel... because that's what people do now - laugh at you.
I love people who think NBC is more biased and untrustworthy than say Fox News. They are both biased, just for different parties. Heck, Fox is probably as much propaganda as any other form of media. But it's funny how all those people who come here to rail and wail about NBC never mention that.
The only way we are going to stop this obstructionism is to come out in 2014 like we did in 2012 and vote. Senators have to run state races, get out and vote against them that is the only way we get rid of them. They feel safe from dems, because we tend to only vote in presidential elections. Lets show them, go out in the same numbers in 2014 and we can change the way Washington DC works.
Obama needs to use the NDAA to get rid of the GOP terrorists their actions have shown republicans are neither partiots or christians they have violated their oaths and have sold this country to the highest bidder.
I used to be Republican and switched to independednt because both parties act like fools. In this case I have no doubt the GOP is acting stupid. Bottom line is they are trying to punish Hagel for supporting Kerry instead of Deb Ficsher during the last election. Fischer voted against Hagel because of that even though Nebraskas two other republican senators voted for Hagel. This certainly would not bring me back to the GOP. Hagel has always voted inedpendently of party. That is the thing I like about him. He actually uses his mind instead of being a hand puppet for either party.
Yesterday the story on the guy with the artifical legs who they say shot his girlfriend first said it was an accident. After a while it came out he was arreseted for murder. Goofball Republicans could say that was a coverup also using their twisted logic. This was to be the final nail in the coffin for obama as they moved to dicredit all the good he has done in spite of them and it turned out to be a dry hole and yet they still want more "evidence". If you go back and review the time line on the reporting and keep in mind this is a third world country that is evolving you will find that we did probably the best we could under the circumstances. Other countries turned away our requests to land more Matines where our place were under light to moderate siege because none of them even want our troops on their soil. McCain and the other goofballs do not count in the big picture any more so all they can muster is these feeble attemps to divert their ineptitude and send out their trolls to make it look like they have many more people on their side than they really do. Look at the comments on a non political subject you may find 50-100. On things like this 4-5 thousand. Bad part about it is they think we do not see this. In 2014 we will remember and send a lot of their nut cases back to their home state with their tales between their legs.
Five years ago, I said that Obama would abandon Israel. He is well on his way to do just that, most recently by supplying arms to an enemy of Israel.
Now being the smarmy politician he is, he is trying to set-up a new underling to do his bidding so he can remain free of blame. Hagel is admittedly anti-Israel and is, therfore, not suited to the job. Liberals will never see the true Obama, blinded by his rhetoric. Hitler is rising from the ashes...
@GodOfFate. The success of news networks like Fox are the direct result from the liberal spin machines of the mainstream media. There are examples upon examples of misinformation, spun stories, and even worse yet failure to cover stories. I also find it interesting how the liberals brand Fox a biased network that spreads lies, but never point out a single lie that is aired. Could it be that the truth just hurts?
Besides, Fox News is 47% trusted as a news network, while NBC is 5% trusted. I'm not making it up - thems are just the facts. If the mainstream media wants to be taken seriously as a news network, they ought get back to reporting news. Not creating it.
I guess the LIBERALS do NOT care about our ally, ISREAL. As this pinhead (Hagel) says he will not back Isreal if Iran was to attack them. The pinhead also said he would NOT attack Iran if they got NUCLEAR WEAPONS What a TRAITOR I thought they were supposed to be looking out for AMERICA.
Why don't you address the rest of his post instead of trying to deflect and play Spelling/Grammar Nazi?
Seems like a valid point to bring up past filibusters by the opposite party, which is what he did.
Not surprisingly, those of you feigning outrage refuse to acknowledge what that poster presented.
Typical back and forth by You Left and Right Wing nuts.
BTW: Hagel will get in.
I'd be interested to see what stance the Posters above take when it comes to Brennan's confirmation.
At least some seem to be genuine, like Chucky Stuart, and outraged by Brennan's actions.
@ Realist17,
Wow. You don't honestly believe that, do you? It's actually pretty simple. Practically ALL the media today spins stories, lies, spreads misinformation, etc. according to their agenda. And Republican media is no exception to this. MSNBC and other are well known to be liberally biased. And FOX news and others are well known to be Republican Propaganda. It isn't just Liberals who call out FOX. I'm an Independent. I call out both for what they are: Biased to their respective parties. Anyone who does not realize this is either ignorant, or in denial due to a blind, one-way party bias. An unfortunate double standard, which is what I had been pointing out in the first place.
I get a kick out of people like you who honestly believe there is a conspiracy against FOX news and the like in the "mainstream media." Is there any better way to make your party sound like a cult than to rail and wail against the "mainstream" people putting you down? What's next, you gonna cry out against "the man?" Oh wait, they already do that with Obama. And you do realize that FOX has higher ratings than MSNBC and CNN combined? Doesn't that make FOX the mainstream media? And not just FOX. Republican media in general gets higher ratings. Not because they are any less biased and deceitful, mind you. But the fact that they have those rating means they are not by any means excluded from "mainstream news." And partisan people on the right buy it hook line and sinker, because it's their side of the media. Hypocrites. They are no better than the very liberals they come here to call out.
obama and hagel = bringing a knife to a gun fight
republicans are spineless wonders who are finally standing up.
POSGOP
steve1962
If Hagel were Defense Secretary it would not matter what his stance was if Iraq attacked Israel.
Middleman
You crazy right wingers expect us to believe that you have the answers and are somehow educated enough to comprehend and retain facts. Sometimes it takes those of us who can spell or at least proof read and use spell check a moment to comprehend what you are trying to say when your grammar and spelling and lack of punctuation are so horrible . In addition, it's fun to point these things out - you guys are just so silly. Most of you spend a insane amounts of time dwelling on who posts first, you obsessive dislike for Feisty and cutting and pasting crazy conspiracy theories. Caesar calls everyone who doesn't agree with him a Communist. It's like watching Mad Men. Time to pull back the curtain and peer into the 21st century.
Republican speak: A noun, a verb, and Benghazi.
Replacing A noun, a verb, and 9/11.
This is simply too funny ... liberals are wetting all over themselves in anger while Obama's nominee still is stuck on "stupid". Maybe, the next time he is asked specific questions, Mr. Hagel will do more than brush them off !
Anakin, (#1.17) where do you get your so called facts about Benghazi? Viral emails?
News flash, it wasn’t a cover-up. We all knew that people died. We all knew that there was an attack on the compound. The witch hunt hoping to find something to club the administration with is silly and ridiculous.
All the Republican party cares about is wars, this Country is going bankrupt !
What GWB did to this Nation is despicable !
Clearly your father was an officer...or a very bad NCO.
michigan voter-546572
Anakin, (#1.17) where do you get your so called facts about Benghazi? Viral emails?
News flash, it wasn’t a cover-up. We all knew that people died. We all knew that there was an attack on the compound. The witch hunt hoping to find something to club the administration with is silly and ridiculous.
Not too bright there little buddy, you fell for the lies and then assume anyone calling them lies is lying?? Clearly political bias blinding you to reality. That is the problem with modern America, every POS so sure of what their masters tell them to believe and is true must be. For Goodness sake people THINK!!! That is all, If Bengaizi was a cover up and Obama willing allowed Americans to be killed he should be impeached, but, it does not mean you are a bad person for voting for him..
Try actually thinking critically rather then being willfully blinded by your bias, agenda, or what others tell you. My Party is Right no matter what is an archaic concept. If a politician is speaking it is probably lying and that crosses party lines.....
So the GOP is going to filibuster after several of their members said they wouldn't. This is typical of the GOP, always taking care of big business instead of the people's business. They are scared to death that Hagel would go after some of those fat military contractors and shut down their special projects.
It particularly points up how John McCain's word cannot be trusted.
Hagel will reduce our nuclear stockpile following Obama policies already revealed to Mendeleev in open microphone. "ill will have more flexibility in my second term"
I suppose Obama's word can be trusted?
I see that Leon Panetta last day was supposed to be today. But that is now on hold. I would love to see Panetta go ahead and tell the Nation and the Senate that he will be leaving his current office at once, as the United States Secretary of Defense.
The reason being they the Senate have had more than ample time to confirm a new Secretary of Defense.
There is no reason what so ever for these GNOP do nothings to continue to hold the process up. Period!!!
How big a nuclear stockpile would you say we need - to bomb all Russian cities 10 times each, or only 5?
Hey Feisty! Remember this from yesterday?
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Let the games begin...
Block - obstruct - walk out - *stomp feet* if we don't get our waaaay!
Don't think for one second Harry doesn't have the 60 votes needed, he wouldn't of scheduled a vote if he didn't!
#1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:37 PM EST
Oskar? Fear mongering much? Jeez! You people are so paranoid! Number one, do you or any of your right wing nuts have any idea what our nuclear arsenal quantity is? Even if we were to "retire" a few of our nuclear bombs, we would be more than able to still blow up every country that could do us harm. Get over your paranoia. It's really annoying to me that you let the likes of Fox and Rush and the NRA have you pissing your pants in fear! Grow a set, would ya!
Republicans SUCK!
The vote didn't need to be forced to the floor today. The goal by the Harry Reid Senate is only to make Republicans look bad in the liberal media after there was a request by Republicans for time to shore up the votes for a confirmation. Harry's anomosity towards the opposition may have thrown Hagle under the bus now, especially when Hagle had a yes vote from many Republicans. Great job in working with the opposition Harry! And this is the "Progressive" Obama politics being played in Washington today. Four more years of this crap and we can all slit our throats. I guess, "stupid is as stupid does".
What else would you expect from a political party made up of birthers, truthers, teabaggers, bigots, racists, bible thumpers, doomsday preppers, gun nuts.....and the 1%......see dr821 above.
HELLO..... this is WASHINGTON, DC you are talking about..... you lie to them & you get time behind bars.... they LIE to 200 MILLION Americans and they get re-elected..........
That certainly sums them up doesn't it, Kevin D?! Spot on!
Republicans SUCK!
how about this,the american people need better represtation down in washington so i"am proposing this,
us sentors only get to serve for two terms and in the house you only get to serve four two year terms.
they way things can get done and we dont end up with knuckle heads like Mccain and graham. they both have been in the senate to long . and throw the damm lobbyists off the hill.
This might have just put the last nail in the Republican party's coffin. People are getting sick and tired of their games. And, this time they did it to one of their own who is an honorable veteran. Pay back is gonna be a b*tch!
From here on out, all Republican cabinet positions get filibustered.
Why not just replace Harry? Maybe we could even get a budget approved if Harry went away, since Harry has refused to bring a budget vote to the floor (for four years now). Never in the history of the Senate has there been so much incompetence displayed.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte
Senator Reid doesn't need to make Republicans look bad. They do a pretty damn good job of that on their own...and now it's by filibustering one of their own.
"In two terms in the Senate, Chuck has earned the respect of his colleagues and risen to national prominence as a clear voice on foreign policy and national security." - Senator Mitch McConnell, 10/2/2008
"No!" - Senator Mitch McConnell, 2/14/2013
Tetrapoda
Double your fun with an octapoda. :-)
OH DAYUM! FISTY JUST GOT OWNED!!!
HAHAHAHA
Are you sure about that last statement? I'll gladly direct you to the Congressional Records online that clearly show that budgets submitted by Senator Pat Toomey, Senator Rand Paul and Congressman Paul Ryan were all defeated in the Senate.
Salad man is losing it.
"The goal by the Harry Reid Senate is only to make Republicans look bad"
Now that's funny!!! Get a clue --- Harry Reid doesn't have to lift a finger to make republicans look bad. Republicans are doing an excellent job of that all by themselves.
The current Secretary of Defense is retiring. Not confirming a successor means the United States will be without a head of the Defense Department
Hagel had a yes vote from TWO Republicans.
Caesar, don't jump on Feisty.
Reid DID have the votes, until McCain, Ayotte, Graham, Blount et al decided to renege on their verbal statements at the last minute.
Read the article. And get over your obsession with seeing the country fail.
dr821 (#2.14)
You're wrong! The Democrats don't have to do ANYTHING to make the Repulsicans look bad! They are doing an excellent job of it themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!! They obviously don't need help!!! (Not in that regard, anyway.)
Here's a question for you; if the United States has enough nuclear weapons to wipe out the world population 40 times over...and we reduce it to 20 times over, does that make us less safe?
Hagel did not have a clear understanding of the middle east, just like Obama's understanding of the Middle East.
Dr821, please, for the sake of anything you hold holy, learn about politics before you post another message. A budget is brought to the floor by the House, currently controlled by the Republican Party.So, bite me.
Ol doc
Clearly that is an exaggeration that you have fallen for!
What makes you think there will ever be another Republican cabinet? It seems to me they have alienated female voters, black voters and Hispanic voters. Their pathetic attempt to attract Hispanic voters with Marco Rubio was transparent and lacking. Demographics are not their friend. A prominent Republican Congresswoman responded to questions about Republican difficulties with "our values are strong, but we have had problems with messaging and the choice of the messenger...Really? ...what's left?
The Republican party is like a speeding train flying headlong toward that "Whig Party" place. Everyone stand back, we don't need to push them but we don't have to get in their way either.
Is little sleazure at it again?
Dude has been on my ignore list for months, makes the FR experience all the more pleasurable by not having to deal with the ankle humper!
It is only a legend in its own mind! ;o)
*WAVES to my GF - Jean321*
And you think Romney had some special insight into the middle east or Bush for that matter? A president enacts foreign policy and war policy based on the advice and council of our best and brightest military leaders. A SOD doesn't enact his own policies so comments he's made in the past are irrelevant, he enacts and enforces the policies of the president. Denying a president the right to choose the person enacting those policies is unprecedented.
No poor Fisty, just GOT OWNED....So dont hate Fisty, it was your own words...maybe Monkey Ny can come by and suck on your swollen balls for awhile and make ya feel better...HAHAHAHA
then he DID NOT have the votes...
says the azzhole that supports a man that thinks drones are ok on US citizens, that success should be punished, illegals granted amnesty regardless, that war powers act can be ignored, that guns are the cause of evil (as well as republicans). Yeah my obsession...Douche Bag
[Salad man is losing it.]
Holy crap...you got that right, seems the little Granite Coward has really jumped the shark...I guess all the "infrastructure" went to his pin head.
The exaggeration was intentional...but it's not that great an exaggeration. One Ohio Class Nuclear Attack Submarine is capable of delivering 96 Nuclear warheads simultaneously...we have 18. Not to mention our ground launched and air launched arsenals. I don't think limiting a couple hundred warheads will endanger us too much...do you?
The GOP-TP hate Hagel because Hagel called out GWB as a Warmonger and Hagel was right !!!
Job1......
You may want to consider a job interview with FOX NEWS. They MIGHT hire you just to be fair and balanced.
Rush was right.... today's liberal is primarily a 'low information' voter, who doesn't have a clue. Evidence of this is the libretard postings here today!
How do you speak to a moron (libbie)? Politely ignore them and move on to more productive endeavors, and maybe laugh a little at their nonsense!
Here is how Progressives (Liberals~Democrats) argue:
Really?
You follow a Oxycontin morbidly obese misogynist and YOU want to tell us he's right? LMAO
Good LUCK with THAT!
Then you bitch about being called
low information votersthe insane clown posse! lolOl_Doc..... "One Ohio Class Nuclear Attack Submarine is capable of delivering 96 Nuclear warheads simultaneously"
HUH ?????
It is apparent you have not served ONE DAY in any branch of the military.
I see Monkey Ny posted but the bitch is on ignore...My Pavlov like dog is trained at least..i whistle and she comes... HAHAHAHA
I do like Violent J
To those of you clamoring for info about the Benghazi asttack let me direct you to the Weather CHannel. THey're doing a feature called "Tempest in a TEapot"
Now here's a brain teaser for ight WIng crybabies Q.) When is 47 per cent more than hlaf?
A.) In the 2012 Preidential Elecion.
Hey John Bryant,
Do you even understand how the budget process works. It starts with the President submitting a budget to Congress. He hasn't submitted one for this year yet and he missed the constitutional deadline again. It's not the requirement of Congress or a party to initiate the budget process as many of you left wing "progressive" hacks profess. It's the responsibility of the President to initiate the process. Then both houses of Congress come to terms and approve a final budget that goes back to the President for his signature. The problem is Harry for 4 years now won't even allow a discussion on the budget in the Senate.
The House has submitted a budget for Senate review every year. Harry has refused to do the work that the Senate officials are elected to do. Why should we continue to have him hold the entire government hostage for his political purposes. In many peoples opinion it is an impeachable disregard for his elected position and one of the reasons we have had the fiscal difficulties and wasteful government spending. Without a budget you have no guideline for controlling the business of governing. But you being the liberal political hack that you are don't understand simple business principals anymore than Harry Reid does.
caesar angry...caesar SMASH!!!!
Sorry dr, the budget is submitted by the House. Even one of you Repuke posters was bragging earlier today about the house controlling the purse strings. The problem is that government was never supposed to be run like a business.
@Ido
The Ohio Class submarine carries 24 Trident missiles. Trident missiles are mirvs. Each missile carries up to 8 warheads. So yes, Doc is correct... if they only launched half of them.
As an Independent, it infuriates me that I once again will likely be made to vote Democrat across the board. Something I did for the first time in my entire life last year due to the Republicans screwing around like this and not being able to find a viable candidate. (I mean Mitt Romney? Really? I may not be satisfied with how things are, but I won't just vote any tool to office who claims to be a Republican.) Normally I like to vote for a healthy balance, but apparently the two parties can no longer coexist.
The GOP has learned absolutely nothing from last election. They don't have a plan of any kind that is even mathematically feasible. They don't contribute to anything. Record levels of filibuster, the debt ceiling crisis (which still isn't over), and witch hunts designed to change the subject and work as a distraction. (Filibuster shouldn't even exist anyway) All they do is continually disrupt the very government the people of this country voted them to help run in the first place. Oh, and then blame it on everyone else and try to slander their reputation. We can't get anything done in this government, and I'm not voting for dysfunction.
Am I happy with the Democrats? Not exactly. Yes the Republicans, particularly in the House, have been disruptive on record levels. And they have crapped all over many things that could have happened. I still think that despite this, there was more they could have done, better things they could have done, and better ways to do certain things they have done. But at least the Democrats are trying to run a government, even if I don't always agree with how they decide to do that. All the Republicans do is disrupt it and blame someone else. And since we apparently can only have one party in our government, all vote for the one that is the least disruptive.
All I can say is..........so what else is new?
if you think the democrats are there to help the people. you are severely delusional!!!
both parties are the same .. they are stubborn, both want their way and only their way, neither side will give in to the other and again, neither party cares about the public, only their own pocket book.
ldo,
Ohio class subs carry 24 missiles each armed with 4 warheads = 96 nuclear warheads.
All 24 missiles can be launched from underwater in less than 6 minutes at targets in excess of 4500 miles
We have 18 such subs and at least 12 are at sea and on station at all times providing over 1100 warheads within striking distance on a moment’s notice.
Funny, I didn't hear Harry apologizing to the American people for holding up all those bills sent over from Congress to deal with the budget and jobs. I guess in Harry's mind it is just fine for one man, Harry, to hold up votes on legislation designed to deal with our nations problems, but it is bad if a group of Senators get together and hold up a vote on one man whose qualifications are questionable, preparedness is sorely lacking and has failed to provide all the information requested to determine his fitness for the position. Harry the hack needs to go before the country can grow.
Dennis,
The Trident II missile was designed to carry up to 12 warheads, but due to treaties it very well could be 4 per missile. At one point it was 8 per missile. Like you say 12 are at sea, and I know that's because of a treaty that limits the number of nuke subs deployed.
Re@son,
12 is probably correct but I believe the actual number to be classified. I also believe the Polaris (oldest technology) carried 11 warheads each. Also not every sub at sea carries a full complement of 24 missiles.
The origional Boomers only carried 16 missles but there were more subs at the time
Hagel will be confirmed.
This is just Politicians playing Politics.
This is not something exclusive to the Right, the Left does the same exact thing.
To think otherwise makes you look like a wing nut.
John Bryant,
Just trying to give you some info on government and fiscal responsibilities between branches. Take a look.
website- nrdc.org/legislation
Then you can get back to me with a more informed rant.
Steve-446003 It amazing that you RE-elected this POTUS POS. Why are LIBERALS so stupid? Like you said he LIED to over 200 million americans.
The most troubling aspect of the Hagel nomination, besides his lack of knowledge and preparedness, is the fact that Obama agrees with him on his views on Iran and disarmament. Having a Neville Chamberlain like figure in the WH is bad enough, having another as Sec Of Defense is downright dangerous.The following is one of the reasons Obama chose Hagel, so he could be in a better position to go the disarmament route while having the backing of the Sec Of Defense.
kinda like talking about "not one dime"...
As a Republican I don't like seeing Hagel cross party lines but I must say he would be the best choice for the job !
You're right. I served 20 years, 7 months and 13 days. And you are correct so long as the boosters don't leave the atmosphere to allow a syncronized strike. There is a slight delay between launches; but in the end...it really doesn't matter.
He didn't say simultaneously launched. He said simultaneously DELIVERED. First you argue badly a point on which you lose, and then you say it doesn't matter. Rather childish behavior. Are you off your meds, or slipping into dementia naturally? Stop yelling at the clouds.
Paul. you dumb piece of sh3T.You now are arguing with somebody that served in the miltary...and you are telling them they are wrong ? WTF is wrong with you...Where do people like you come from? Do you know you are laughed at on both sides ...seriously..What the hell is wrong with you? Anger Management I am sure is part of Obama Care you f#cking Loser!
Are you capable of coming up with one fact you can back up with out calling somebody an insult?
Wait I will make it easy for you little boy..come up with one fact you can back up?
He admitted, reluctantly, that he was wrong, mike. You both need to start trying to read with comprehension skills.
Are you simply not well versed in ballistic trajectories vs launch time to achieve simultaneous impact, or do you have a more basic problem? Perhaps you should watch the military channel from time to time. Here's a hint...Multiple Round Simultaneous Impact (MRSI). It can be done with artillery as well as warheads.
Try to keep up.
You are bolstering my point, not yours. Impact is the delivery of ordinance, not the launch of it.
Paul-977599
Do you have a comprehension problem? MRSI - Multiple Round Simultaneous IMPACT! That IS delivery of ordinance! I NEVER stated they would launch simultaneously!...this time read the comments in #2.33 and #2.59. Strike and Delivery...NOT LAUNCH!...good God man.
Ido had it wrong, not you.
Sorry, thought you were talking to me. Perhaps the comprehension problem is mine.
GodOfFate
As an fellow Independent, I can understand your thoughts but, if you are truly independent minded you know that the party out of power always tries to stem the flow of the damage (as they see it) that the other party can do. It is their Duty to resist, not to rubber stamp that is who if works. I know as well as any that all politicians are Pieces of trash and if they speak it is only to lie but, as an Independent we know that BOTH parties are like that and the wings of either are particularly trashy. Our system is not parliamentary like England or Israel where there are multiple parties and they need form a coalition, we have 2 and they supposed to oppose each other. When they do not, god save us all, that is how we got Iraq an d Afghanistan. As much as liberal douches may wish to spin and lie like the politicians Iraq would not have happened if all politicians were not out to 'Do something' after 9/11. Kind of like the silly gun control debates. When both political parties agree 'something must be done' it is best if nothing is done or it will only screw the decent people of the country.
How typical of the Teapublicans. Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. What a bunch of sore losers!
Just loser lifeforms in general. Sad.
Democrats are the ones that stop nominations from Bush, now cry alaud for Hage."Hipocrats"
With no other way to block confirmation, the Senate Democrats started to filibuster judicial nominees. On February 12 2003, Miguel Estrada, a nominee for the D.C. Circuit, became the first court of appeals nominee ever to be filibustered. Later, nine other conservative court of appeals nominees were also filibustered. These nine were Priscilla Owen, Charles W. Pickering, Carolyn Kuhl, David W. McKeague, Henry Saad, Richard Allen Griffin, William H. Pryor, William Gerry Myers III and Janice Rogers Brown.Three of the nominees (Estrada, Pickering and Kuhl) withdrew their nominations before the end of the 108th Congress.
Yeah, well Oskar, now all Republican cabinet positions get filibustered. What's good for the goose......
If it looks like a turd, smells like a turd.......it's a lying republicon.
Man, talk about irony, Hagel being a Republican and Republicans vote against him. I suspect the only reason is that he was nominated by a Democrat President. I bet if Robme had won the election and had nominated Hagel, his confirmation would have been smooth sailing through Congress.
Oskar,
There actually were about a half dozen fillibusters over judges and cabinet posts. The democrats did the first one in about 60 years when they went after Migel Estrada.
Democrats take to heart that continuous ranting makes something that is not a fact a fact in reality.
oskar-1391552
You seem to like lists...how's this one.
Did you know that a total of 375 bills that passed the Democratic-majority House have been blocked by Republicans in the Senate?
That’s THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY-FIVE BILLS! Here are a few:
HR 12 -- Paycheck Fairness Act
H.R. 20 -- Melanie Blocker Stokes Mom’s Opportunity to Access Health, Education, Research, and Support for Postpartum Depression Act
H.R. 320 -- CJ’s Home Protection Act
H.R. 448 -- Elder Abuse Victims Act
H.R. 466 –- Wounded Veteran Job Security Act
H.R. 515 –- Radioactive Import Deterrence Act
H.R. 549 -- National Bombing Prevention Act
H.R. 577 –- Vision Care for Kids Act
H.R. 626 –- Federal Employees Paid Parental Leave Act
H.R. 780 –- Student Internet Safety Act
H.R. 911 -- Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens Act
H.R. 985 -- Free Flow of Information Act
H.R. 1029 -– Alien Smuggling and Terrorism Prevention Act
H.R. 1110 –- PHONE Act and H.R. 1258 – The Truth in Caller ID Act
H.R. 1168 -- Veterans Retraining Act
H.R. 1171 –- Homeless Veterans Reintegration Program Reauthorization
H.R. 1262 -- Water Quality Investment Act
H.R. 1293 -- Disabled Veterans Home Improvement and Structural Alteration Grant Increase Act of 2009
H.R. 1319 –- Informed P2P User Act
H.R. 1380 -- Josh Miller HEARTS Act
H.R. 1429 -- Stop AIDS in Prison Act
H.R. 1469 –- Child Protection Improvements Act
H.R. 1511 –- Torture Victims Relief Reauthorization Act
H.R. 1514 –- Juvenile Accountability Block Grants Program Reauthorization Act
H.R. 1580 –- Electronic Waste Research and Development Act
H.R. 1585 -- FIT Kids Act
H.R. 1617 –- Department of Homeland Security Component Privacy Officer Act
H.R. 1622 -– Research and Development Programs for Natural Gas Vehicles
H.R. 1675 –- Frank Melville Supportive Housing Investment Act of 2009
H.R. 1709 –- STEM Education Coordination Act
H.R. 1722 -- Telework Improvements Act
H.R. 1727 -- Managing Arson Through Criminal History (MATCH) Act
H.R. 1741 -- Witness Security and Protection Grant Program Act
H.R. 1796 –- Carbon Monoxide Poisoning Prevention Act
H.R. 1803 -- Veterans Business Center Act
H.R. 1807 –- Educating Entrepreneurs through Today’s Technology Act
H.R. 1834 –- Native American Business Development Enhancement Act
H.R. 1838 –- Amending Small Business Act
H.R. 1824 -- Best Buddies Empowerment for People with Intellectual Disabilities Act
H.R. 1875 -- End the Trade Deficit Act
H.R. 1879 -- National Guard Employment Protection Act
H.R. 1933 –- A Child Is Missing Alert and Recovery Center Act
H.R. 2020 -- Networking and Information Technology Research and Development Act of 2009
H.R. 2093 –- Clean Coastal Environment and Public Health Act
H.R. 2134 -- Western Hemisphere Drug Policy Commission Act
H.R. 2142 – Government Efficiency, Effectiveness, and Performance Improvement Act
H.R. 2187 – 21st Century Green High-Performing Public School Facilities Act
H.R. 2200 – Transportation Security Administration Authorization Act
H.R. 2221 – Data Accountability and Trust Act
H.R. 2352 – Job Creation Through Entrepreneurship Act
H.R. 2454 – American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009
H.R. 2510 – Absentee Ballot Track, Receive and Confirm Act
H.R. 2529 – Neighborhood Preservation Act
H.R. 2554 – National Association of Registered Agents and Brokers Reform Act
H.R. 2611 – Authorizing the Securing the Cities Initiative of the Department of Homeland Security
H.R. 2664 – Promoting Transparency in Financial Reporting Act
H.R. 2693 – Oil Pollution Research and Development Program Reauthorization Act
H.R. 2749 -- Food Safety Enhancement Act
H.R. 2868 – Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Act of 2009, Drinking Water System Security Act of 2009 and Wastewater Treatment Works Security Act of 2009
Ol Doc -- What the hell are you rambling about Democrat-majority House?
Ol Doc is apparently living in a VORTEX somewhere in Mom and Dad's basement.
Or, he has his head in the sand along with many other Progressives.
Or, he is getting instructions from FLYeisty.
Guess Ol Doc future comments will be filed in the Trash Bin.
The delay still incensed Democrats, though, who argued that the delay was without precedent and risked leaving the military essentially leaderless during a time of war and as major cuts to the defense budget loom
Go figure...obama is cutting the military and it's budget and the democrats are crying because the mean old republicans are risking leaving the military essentially leaderless during a time of war?????
All the while, people on these threads or whatever you call them, can only bash republicans & democrats and squabble and call each other names like spoiled little children!! I realize that our so called leaders are doing the same thing so maybe it's time that the CITIZENS (ALL CITIZEN...dems, repubs, and all others) begin to seriously let the leaders of our country know that we are TIRED OF THE CHILDISH BEHAVIOR THEY ARE DISPLAYING TO THE OUR CHILDREN AND THE REST OF THE WORLD...THAT IF THEY DON'T START BEHAVING AS RESPONSIBLE ADULTS, WE WILL DEMAND A SPECIAL ELECTION AND REMOVE THEM ALL!! People on these sites need to start thinking for themselves rather then falling for the baloney our president and congress are feeding us. If you have constructive complaints, ideas, or even questions; BRING THEM TO THE ATTENTION OF THE SITES AND THE LAWMAKERS THEMSELVES!!
Yep, that's how you respond to facts. All you veterans who are bashing the administration, the ones who claim to be your friends are no friends.
What the repukes are doing to this country is criminal they keep calling for Obama to be impeached they should all they have done for years is keep us in a depression obstruct everything and know nothing. Whoever voted for these swine are either criminals or half wits im sure is mostly the latter ive never talked to a republican yet that can get past everybody else getting welfare im getting my share but im against it. Its true most republicans are first in line to get any government handout they can while being again it lmao.
more ignorant libtards playing the blame game.. nothing will ever change
here we go again, more blind libtards on the rampage. will you fools ever open your eyes?
remember all this obstructiion come election day in 2014 and vote the losers out! your vote counts go Dems!!!!!
babs
That means Harry Reid and the Dems will be voted out in the Senate for holding up all the budgets and jobs bills passed by the House
Interesting … they have failed to pass a budget since the election yet even without having passed a budget in 3 years the Democrats GAINED seats in the Senate. And the obstruction by Republicans continues after losing seats … fools!
It appears that the public isn't too upset about passing a budget but they are about obstructing.
See how stupid they are they re-elected OBLAMER. Yet he has NOT passed a budget since he was eleceted the first time. How IGNORANT can these people be. They must believe everything MSNDC puts out there and the LIES that OBLAMER told all through his term and on the campaign trail. I know both sides LIE, just seems like OBLAMER can tell you the sky is green and they suck it up hook line & sinker. Just shows HOW IGNORANT the LIBERALS really are.
steve
Just to remind you that the President does NOT pass a budget. The House initiates a budget and does the appropriations bills. It is the appropriations bills that the President signs, not a budget. You can google the federal budget process and check it out before you call people ignorant.
After 4 years of this kind of stuff, I'm sure they're quite used to it. I guess those who live inside the bubble don't understand how badly these obstructionist Republicans are hurting them in the long run.
Keep crying all you liberal hypocrites. Your memories are oh so short. Dems fought and tried to block everything Bush did. You people are pathetic losers. Liberals suffer from a brain disorder that makes you irrational, childish and very delusional. Feisty, Pigotry, Jody, Amy, Beverly and the rest of the liberal clowns are the worst. Last four mass shooters were delusional liberals.
joe - you're a damned liar. Democrats DID NOT try to block everything Bush did! Try again when you actually KNOW something!
And the last 4 mass shooters were republicans - tea partiers - just like you - demented, delusional and eager to show it!
Uh, joe. Hate to break the news to you, but you're the ones who lost. And this is one of the prime examples as to why. Spew all of the hate vitriol you want. It's still not going to change. Well, it will in 2014, but I don't think you're going to like it (lol).
Seeking, wrong libtard, you idiots are so delusional you don't know reality from fantasy. And the last four shooters were or from liberals. Fact. Just like the dems fighting with Bush.
Tony, you are so ignorant to your own hate that you spew. This is why libtards are hypocrites. Maybe someday they will find a cure for your brain disorder.
Joe, the liberals arent the sore-loser cry-babies. The liberals arent the ones who sacrifice the good of their country for personal vendettas.
joe - make up all the lies you want - they're still lies. The shooters were NOT liberals. But keep lying - it's all Republicans have - lies and idiotcy!
joe, time's up. The men in the white coats are coming to take you back to your padded cell. Enjoy!
tony - actually the men in white coats can't stand joe. They're gonna let him play in traffic!
Joe,
Put Seeking Sanity on ignore. The biggest piece of s--hit their is. I already have. All SS does is try to impress the leader of the idiots and then tell you how stupid you are. Pathetic!
None of the mass shooters were Republicans or NRA members. They were all kids from liberal families. Liberals have a mean intolerant hate streak. Just read their posts. None of them find any reason for gun control, or reasons to support Obama's nominees other than it is "dear leaders" desire. No reasoning, no arguments, no logic, just invective. Intolerance and tendency toward censorship and anti-freedom gun control are characteristics of liberals. Typically all socialists and socialist/communist states tend toward totalitarianism.
UncleSam,
You may be the single most stupid and ignorant person I have seen write a post on this site. HOW DO YOU KOW THAT NONE OF THE MASS SHOOTERS WERE REPUBLICANS OR NRA MEMBERS. YOU DON'T!!! You have just made a conjecture based on no information and no knowledge. Maybe you have problems reading but this is about the filibustering of the Secretary of Defense nomination. What is most ridiculous about it is that there is no valid or intelligent reasoning for blocking this nomination other than their hatred of President Obama. You continue to support these idiots. They will NEVER EVER WIN NATIONAL ELECTION. THEY WILL NEVER EVER WIN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH THESE STUPID IGNORANT VIEWS THAT HAVE NO REAL BASIS IN INTELLIGENCE OR FACT!!
Let me help you out here Sammy!
Sorry if facts tend to have a liberal bias;
Thanks Feisty for setting the record straight on Sammy's fiction!!
Anytime Velma!
When you shine the spotlight of facts on them, they usually scurry back under the fridge! ;o)
So, if the Republicans are so wonderful, maybe you can explain how you got a 19% approval rating from the American people.
Feisty, very good. no wonder they hate you so much. The truth is like kryptonite to them. I only hope to one day be as hated by the trolls as you are.
Thanks John! lol
I'll take a bulls eye on my back over their boot on my neck, any day!
I enjoy dragging them out of their basements into the sunlight where they spontaneously *explode* ;o)
Velma Adams
Thanks Feisty for setting the record straight on Sammy's fiction!!
Velma, Republicans ♥ FICTION. I'm still tripping over how they think they can link Hagel to their
Benghazi-gateSvengal-gate.Feisty - Heads are exploding! The truth is a bitter pill for the crazy right wing bat s@#t crazies here. Are the Newsvine moderators no longer paying attention? There is some vile, hateful, foul crap spewing from the right lately.
Kim,
Warden Tyler & Deputy Sally are too consumed telling NV members to either LOVE the new vine or leave it!
Skim over and ignore the attention whores... ;o)
Responding to them only makes them feel empowered!
Your nothing but a paid troll. One of Oblunders appointees no doubt. " Boot on my neck?" You have a teeny tiny little atrophied little brain rolling around in that big empty skull. Paid union troll. Pathetic but like a Kardashian enjoy your " fame" no matter how desperate or pathetic it is. Your like a bad accident you just can't help but look but you are nothing more than a legend in your own little mind.
Granny, sit the @!$%# down and take your medications for Christs sake!
The adults are having a conversation here, and you darling are unfortunately out of ammo.
How long can YOU clowns thrive off of impotent rage? lmfao!
Having to get out of bed every morning knowing "Oblunders" is YOUR President has to set your hemorrhoids on fire makes my DAY, sweetheart!
I wonder if Nana is drawing Social Security and Medicare?
I'd be willing to wager that Nana is one of those teabaggers with her sign in the closet that says "keep yer grubby socialist gubermint hands off my medicare"... ready for a parade
LOL you people crack me up. go ahead, believe in your democratic fantasies and continue to blame the GOP while you dig your own grave.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL:
Thanks for proving SeekingSanity wrong, since 4.2 comes before 4.10
Velma Adams, John Bryant, Beverly in Chicago, kimH-1330542 you might want to make note of post 4.2 because you're all cheering that Feisty put SeekingSanity in his/her place.
Fiesty's post proves that none of those shooters were registered for either party.
Hey SeekingSanity...
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL just shot you down with Facts, care to address her post?
.
SeekingSanity will probably just avoid this thread from here on out.
Republicans eating their own and now Democrats eating their own.
Lovely.
Great, involved in a war, unrest around the world and the Senate filibusters. A Defense Sec. is not necessary. What a bunch of losers we have in the GOP Senate seats. Thanks guys for putting yourselves and party before the good of the country. I sure know how I am voting and campaigning in 2014 and it will not be for the GNOP.
John McCain of Arizona cannot be trusted.
Lindsey Graham of South Carolina cannot be trusted.
John Boehner of Ohio cannot be trusted.
Greed, Obstruction, Paranoia, today's GOP.
SIESTASIS, Panetta stays until Hagel is confirmed and he will be.
Didn't you read this part of the article:
Ah, the repubs are as helpful to the process as always. And they wonder why they are becoming irrelavant?
BG,
You're irrelavant. You don't understand the process. You would prefer the media to do your voting and run the country. Good luck with that.
The republicons are indeed becoming a regional party instead of a national party. Performance talks and BU**SH** walks.
Look at California. We were saddled with republicons and their $40 Billion a year deficits for nearly a decade. Now after only 2 years under Democrat Governor Moonbeam we are looking at a balanced budget!
Hmmmm... I wonder how California did that?
"After years of cutting education and social services to close deficits, California's budget is finally in balance as long as state lawmakers follow Gov. Jerry Brown's guidance to hold the line on spending, the Legislature's nonpartisan budget analyst said Monday."
"He said that while California is on a much better financial footing, uncertainty remains about the federal deficit debate, the state's heavy reliance on wealthy earners, and huge unfunded pension and retiree health care liabilities."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/california-budget-balanced_n_2474978.html
Hey dr 821,
God, I hope dr doesn't stand for doctor. What would you be a doctor of...Hmm.... anyway, you cut me to the quick with your incredibly clever repartee, "BG, your irrelavant". Wow, do you write your own material?
Still clinging to the belief that the media is liberal? Well, I think its completely conversatively biased. I think the press doesn't care to maximize its profit by trying to appeal to the greatest cross section of people, no, they are in business to lose business by appealing only to a small liberal fringe, that way they are guaranteed to sell less papers, advertising space, etc. That makes sense to you? Thanks for feeding the stereotype on repubs being knuckle draggin' mouth breathers.
miklkit, Jerry Brown got California into your mess the first time around.
Yeah, Arnold couldn't fix it but he didn't get any help either.
Doesn't California NOW have the highest taxes in the country?
Quit with the games and grow up! Confirm Hagel before Iran burns the bagel or Un the loon colors the peninsula maroon. Now is exactly the wrong time to filibuster a member of your own party in case you hadn't noticed!
If Hagel is the only one standing between us and World destruction, we are in deeper @!$%# than even I thought.
And what, pray tell, would Hagel do? He wants to appease them, not stop them!
I'd rather have Panetta in as long as possible, which is the current situation.
(Note that in the article above)
Hagel will be confirmed eventually.
Why did Reid's own democrats vote against Hagel??
Harry couldn't get some of his own democrats to vote for Hagel?? why?
Please read the article. All 55 Democrats voted to close debate and move to a nomination vote. Are you that anti-Obama, anti-Democrat that you can't face reality and have to make things up?
DownTown - you're clearly illiterate. Get someone to read then explain the article to you. ALL of the Democrats and 3 Republicans voted for Hagel. You proudly show us why Republicans should never be in a responsible role. You're all too damned dumb!
DownTown :: I didn't see where it said the democrats voted down Hagel !! The vote was 58-40 so that was for Hagel and apparently along the party lines. It wasn't against Hagel but for Hagel but not enough to prevent a filibuster.
Ahhh... YUP! lol
Damn bubblegum gremlins!
I would like to point out that the Senator that I voted for voted against Hagel and I'm OK with that. Too bad the Left gets their skivvies in a wad about the process. Just because you won the Presidency doesn't mean you have an automatic on everything else. Poor crybabys.
I see Tealibanis don't need no steenking facts...
Obviously you didn't watch Hagel's complete & utterly incompetent performance during his confirmation hearing.
Never have, never will. You see, they live inside a bubble where it never rains and FOX is always on the tube.
TJ:
Liberals don't care how Hagel looked at the hearings. He has been blessed by their king so it must be well! If Bush would have nomimnated him these same sheep would be screamy bloody murder. If Obama told these sheep that his turds were of good taste they would eat them and then tell the country (with their media) that those damn republicans should be eating the too!
tj, I'd like for you to have to fend of an attack from former colleagues the way Chuck was forced to. I'm sure it wouldn't faze you a bit, because you wouldn't know a friend if you had one.
Democrats do something few Republicans have done in the last 15 years. Vote their conscience, not the political line, regardless of how it affects their constituents.
@ DEMS
This is funny a question was ask to you DEMS and you do not answer it but knock down the REP why is that may I ask?
If a question is ask instead of calling REP names or knocking down their party why don't you answer the question?
See this is why America is doomed.
Dems think they know it all but when ask the run around the bush and name call. Oh yes I have seen it from the Rep. too but more name calling and bashing from the Dems and never an answer from one of you..
You know this is why you dems need the government if you had to do something on your own you would be lost.
I remember when no-one even Dems wanted the government in their face but now you all are asking for bigger government why is that?
See I have no party I like some things Dems say and I like some thing Rep say. But neither one of you Rep or Dems have moved me to your side.
I just wish you all could see how childish you all are.
The main thing we all should be thinking is what is best for our kids and our family as well as the main goal of America.
If we can't be civil in a blog how to you think they feel in congress.
I loved America like no other when I was a kid everything red, white, and blue.
Now that I am at my dads age I have lost hope for America.. and no longer see a dream for my kids.
One more thing why do DEMS like liars? Bill lied you all love him, Hilary lied you all love her, Obama lied you all worship him like a God.
Tell me why you all like liars because I don't understand I hate liars and don't want them running this country. Why do you?
mike -
Voting for cloture is not voting for Hagen, it is merely voting to close debate to allow a vote. Please educate yourself about Senate procedures.
Before you jump all over DownTownJulieBrown...
I think that "Down" misspoke and was actually thinking of Brennan and not Hagel.
Several Dems have stated that they were unhappy with that Appointment due to his role in Water Boarding and now Drone Strikes.
Though I could be wrong...
Same old sh--it by the GOP. They have to play their silly little games. It is a do nothing party that has no answers and after 2014 we won't have to put up with their crap anymore.
Same old whining from the Left when they don't get their way.
This is why so many independents can no longer support the Republican Party.
And since this is no different then what Democrats have done in the past, knowledgeable independents see the hypocrisy in this False Outrage by the Left.
Neither deserve support.
You fit that "knowledgeable" category, right Roadkill?
I am sorry to say I am from Arizona and McCain is our represenative.
So are we. Maybe next time you will elect a conservative not a rino!
Chuck, you should move to D.C., see how that fits your profile.
McCain is NOT our representative. He is not even our Senator. McCain is the world’s greatest loser.
He escaped prosecution in the Charles Keating fraud with the help of his lap dog... Lindsey Graham. He lied about how his arms were broken after crashing a multimillion dollar plane into a Viet Nam rice paddy. He first said the civilians who saved his azz from drowning did it, then he said the soldiers did it. The truth is he did it. According to eject procedure his arms were to be held closely to his chest.
He never learned or his panic was in charge and his arms were broken on ejection.
He cheated on his wife who stood by him while he was in a Viet Nam camp with a blond beer baroness in Hawaii.
Sid was in Hawaii 'recuperating' from the disaster and death of fellow seamen when he nearly destroyed the USS Forestall due to not following protocol.
And he still stands between the release of MIA info from Viet Nam because it may describe his true role in the camp?
Again, Sid is the world's greatest loser and Arizonans are not at all happy with his antics.
But his war chest is so huge thanks to the folks he has 'befriended' that it is almost (I said almost) impossible to unseat him
He is a great poster child for TERM LIMITS.
This loser has never held a job in commerce, industry or service fields always eating from the public trough. And when he retires or gets fired he will still receive a full senators pay for the rest of his life.
That alone sickens the populace!
Chuck, you have my condolences.
I can commiserate with you. I am so sorry anymore to say I am from South Dakota- a hateful, ignorant state since it went so red. South Dakota kicked out Tom Daschle and put Thune in. Thune voted against the Violence Against Women Act. Disgraceful. We have one clinic left in the state that performs abortions. It is like being flushed down the toilet, but luckily, most of us forward-thinkers who are stuck in red states just refuse to be flushed. :>) Maybe someday we will see the sunshine again.
I had respect for John McCain at one time. I supported him for president in 2000, sent him money and even knocked on doors for him. But today he's nothing more than a nasty, bitter, vile and vengeful old man who cannot got over his loss in the 2008 election. The sooner he leaves the Senate, the better off this nation will be.
This loser has never held a job in commerce, industry or service fields always eating from the public trough.
You've just described Obama!!
Rex-1306908
This loser has never held a job in commerce, industry or service fields always eating from the public trough.
You've just described Obama!!
Rex-, Nope, that would be the Koch bros and others in the 1% who pay little or NO taxes.
@Cracker, free phones started under Reagan.
Ring Wing Goes Crazy Over 'Obama Phones' Which Are Actually 'Reagan Phones'
http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/ring-wing-goes-crazy-over-obama-phones-which-are-actually-reagan-phones
Little do you know; of course that's 99% of right wing nut jobs who post hear; Ditto FOX News!!
Josh -
At least McCain is more of a man than you will ever be. He has served this country in the military. What have you ever done other than bellyache when you don't get your way?
Thank you for reminding us, McNasty sung like a canary while in the Hanoi Hilton! lmao!
And the little birdy goes *tweet tweet tweet*...
And what did Chuck Hagel do, Tammy? The same thing. Oh snap!! Maybe you better stay at home in the kitchen and "Stand By Your Man" even when he comes home drunk and beats the sh!t out of you.
So you think you can handle the Torture he had to go through?
Pretty despicable comment and typical of an Extremist Wing Nut from Either party.
Tammy - You should research Mr. McCain's history while a guest of the Hanoi Hilton before you offer him up as any kind of example. As a VN vet, just sayin...
McCain chose his "torture", and sung like a canary to get medical attention for his self-inflicted wounds. He should take personal responsibility for his own stupidity, and you should stop calling him a war "hero" when he was nothing but a war failure.
The Hon. John Roberts, Chief Justice has scheduled to hear case regarding Obama’s forged IDs in conference before the
Full Supreme Court
Feb. 14, 2013
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, the Hon. John Roberts has scheduled to hear a case by attorney Orly Taitz dealing with Barack Hussein Obama’s use of forged IDs to be heard in conference before the United States Full Supreme Court.
A Congressional Petition has been posted to replace the Taitz petition that was also removed this new Congressional Petition has taken on a life of its own!
The birther case became less a source of entertainment when New York Times best-selling author Jerome Corsi suggested that the president's nominee to head the Central Intelligence Agency, John Brennan, may have played a role in removing birther evidence from Barack Obama's passport records. It appears that in 2008, a State Department insider was simultaneously employed by Analysis Corporation of McLean, Va. (then headed by Mr. Brennan) and was reprimanded for accessing (and possibly altering) Obama's passport records.
It is likely that the overwhelming information coming from credible parties cannot be ignored any longer and it might be the reason behind the decision by the Hon. Chief Justice John Roberts to grant Taitz a full Supreme Court Conference on February 15, 2013. This story will be updated as the events evolve.
The case titled Noonan, Judd, MacLeran, Taitz v Bowen provides a mountain of evidence of Barack Obama using a last name not legally his, forged Selective Service application, forged long form and short form birth certificate and a Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425 which was never assigned to him according to E-Verify and SSNVS.
Additionally, this case provides evidence of around one and a half million invalid voter registrations in the state of California alone.Please, keep in mind, Richard Nixon was reelected and sworn in, but later was forced to resign as a result of Watergate.
We cannot forget that over 30 high ranking officials of Nixon administration including Attorney General of the United States and White House Counsel were indicted, convicted and subsequently wound up in prison. According to Orly Taitz, Obama Forgery gate is a hundred times bigger then Watergate.
More corrupt high ranking officials, US Attorneys, AGs and judges were complicit, committed high treason by allowing a citizen of Indonesia and possibly still a citizen of Kenya Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barack (Barry) Soebarkah, aka Barack (Barry) Soetoro to usurp the U.S. Presidency by use of forged IDs and a stolen Social security number SCOTUS printout is below.
No. 12A606Title:Edward Noonan, et al., Applicants v.Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State Docketed:December 13, 2012
Lower Ct:Supreme Court of California Case Nos.:(S207078) Proceedings and Orders Dec 11 2012
Application (12A606) for a stay, submitted to Justice Kennedy.
Dec 13 2012Application (12A606) denied by Justice Kennedy.
Dec 26 2012Application (12A606) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice.
Jan 9 2013DISTRIBUTED for Conference of February 15, 2013.
Jan 9 2013 Application (12A606) referred to the Attorneys for Petitioner:Orly Taitz29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy (949) 683-5411
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688Party name: Edward Noonan, et al.
Attorneys for Respondent:Kamala HarrisAttorney General(916) 445-9555P. O. Box 944255Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
Party name: Deborah Bowen, California Secretary of State
Crawl back under your rock.
The lady whacko, Orly Taitz, strikes again, but this time it looks like the Courts are after her for lying.
Do you want to link this garbage? I checked the Supreme Court web site and found nothing resembling the right wing propoganda you posted. Your own post shows that the Supreme Court never accepted the application for review. All you have is the same old lies and look who jumps on the bandwagon, ol' Cracker and his Obamaphobia.
Carlene Brown - you are lying filth - a perfect Republican! My God you guys sink lower and lower with each passing day. Surely soon the mud will cover your sorry heads and we'll never hear from you again!
Oh and Carlene, we'd like to see your long form birth certificate; something showing you're actually a human being; something showing your IQ is above 40 (okay, that's never gonna happen).
The only problem is that there is a real conflict of interest on this case. The 2 women that Obama appointed to the Supreme Court would also be invalid as would all of his appointees. I don't even like saying these two women's name that he put on our Supreme Court! Where there is smoke there is fire and Obama is definitely unqualified as a President of our wonderful country. The Senate has to start Impeachment and I do believe that will happen when hell freezes over. None the less I still have hope. It's something new everyday.
Do some research dumbo. This is happening.
Carlene - LIAR - try looking somewhere other than rightwing websites. You just look more stupid with each post! It ISN'T happening kook!
****WARNING.... BIRTHER ALERT....*****
The asylum must allow these nuts some computer time after they eat all their mashed peas as a reward...
Carlene you are unqualified to be a human being but you try acting like you are anyhow. LIES LIES is all the Obama haters know how to do. Florida (Republican State)Supreme Court is trying to impeach (snopes.com)both Obama and Biden just so Bonehead a republican can take over and over throw the elected government The Republicans hates a democracy for us but pushes democracy for other countries.
Clayton, are your little panties in a bunch, cry baby.
joe - careful, you're fixation with panties may get rumors started about you. Clearly you and Carlene are unbalanced and are the reason stringent mental health checks should be done before anyone is allowed to own a gun.
None of this is true. First Roberts is NOT 'honorable'. Second Roberts is chemically dependent for life and thus becomes both a suspect and a prime candidate for blackmail.
Third, no one, repeat NO ONE will even attempt to show the truth about Obama (if that is his name) because they fear death, they fear race riots, they fear for their lives and the lives of their families.
Oh yes death to the bearers of truth is the new motto.
Everyone knows that the sperm donor that brought this wretched person onto earth was likely Frank Marshall Davis not anyone named obama. We know that this fraud was born in a Vancouver socialist hospital because at the time (alleged) of his birth his supposed mom was enjoying friends on Mercer Island the sordid place of her teens. She was living in Seattle and enrolled in the University... there are so many records that prove this yet not one of the complicit commie news outlets or the non-complicit fools in cable or TV have ever presented the facts.
They are easy to find. A few dozen investigators others have seen the documents and read the hospital record. No question about the person described being this fraud.
What a bunch of freaks, fools, ignorant and imbecilic people we have, now thanks to the US gubernmunt interfering in the school system through the so called Department of Education
In ten years when this fraud is finally exposed who among you will join e is shouting I TOLD YOU SO!
Oh, now come on, guys - I was able to find Carlene's story quite easily - it's right there in black and white - on Orly Taitz's own web site. Word for word, just the way Carlene plagiarized it and pretended they were her own words. It's right below the part where Orly asks for money to continue her "quest":
"If you love your country, please help me fight this creeping tyranny and corruption. Donations no matter how small will help pay for airline and travel expenses."
.....and right above the picture and link that suggests Orly is now running for the U.S. Senate......in 2012:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=375765
Hope Carlene's sent in lots of money for Orly's, ummm, "travel expenses".....
P.S. - The Supreme Court's website apparently hasn't caught up with this "breaking news":
http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?Search=orly+taitz&type=Supreme-Court=Dockets
Hey, be sure and check out Docket for 12A25 - man, when even Clarence Thomas rules against you, you KNOW you're in trouble!
Mike Snyder did the research. It appears that you have not.
Carlene -
Per the Constitution, Impeachment starts in the House of Representatives - they act as a Grand Jury. Impeachment then goes to the Senate and they can attend to no other matter in advance of the issue - they MUST act as judge and jury immediately.
It is a very interesting bit of information. Personally, I feel that we, as a nation, need to remove the traitor currently posing as President. Liberals will not agree, of course, but we know how brainwashed they are.
Are you tripping, you think Oily Taint can impeach the POTUS? keep dreaming
This thread is a perfect example of Right Wing Nuts and Left Wing Nuts coming together in Harmony.
Name calling
Character Assassination
Distortion of Fact
Outright Lies
Love the Extremists.
Hey, don't complain about the Republicans. Urge them on. The longer they keep this up the more unpopular they become. What they're doing of course is stupid, but when you look at how they conducted the campaign and who they put up as nominees shows pretty much that stupid is about par tor them. I just hope they keep the obstruction and negativism and hatred of Obama going and going and going because come election time it will all come down on their heads just like it did last November.
Eventually, the public will realize that you extremist from both parties are actually the ones ruining the country, Republican and Democratic alike.
I agree with the general theme of the comments. I also believe what comes around, goes around. In other words, at some point there will be a Republican in the White House. When that happens, I am sure the Democrats won't be in the mood to forgive and forget. Politics has become nothing more than a zero sum game.
Lord Tuckernut - I think the more they pull this nonsense the less likely it is we will see a Republican inhabit the White House for a lOOOOOONG time!
The democrats started it during Bush's presidency!
Where have you been?
Lord Tuckernut
The Democrats have already done the same thing in the past.
Tammy-311614 is actually correct about something.
This is just politics as usual.
SeekingSanity, you might want to check out thread "4" again.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL just crushed you and proved how much of a liar you are, too bad she didn't realize it.
I'd love to see you try to take her on.
You'll probably just hide from her, lol.
That's your own party eating it own and having your back.
Truth wins out in the end, no matter what the source.
Well dimwitted redhead, obama has taken the American taxpayers hostage still and I guess he wants to throw another little tantrum. I feel so bad for him, obama continues to deceive those so easily deceived, what is your messiah to do? Oh, maybe he can blame Bush once again, that always appeals to those such as you and the other lemmings.
The military certainly is leaderless. After all President Obama is the Comander in Chief!!!!!
Where is Commander Cheney and Commander in Chief Geo. W. when our nation truly needs them? It's been years since we invaded some sovereign country which just shows how much a slacker Obama is.
The war criminal bush/cheney is in hiding. It can not travel to Europe or Canada because of the threat of being arrested for war crimes.
And that is the best the republicons have.
Actually, there are over 140 countries that they can't travel to because they will be arrested. Do the math, that is like 1/2 the countries in the world!
Sorry Bruce, miklkit, cloverhills and BG.
I prefer Roovesvelt to any of those idiots (Bush, Chenney, Obama) when it comes to being Commander in Chief.
McCain has long since worn out his "American combat hero" lapel pin. He is now using the 'get off my lawn' pin. And that other stalwart of American heroism, Sen. Lindsey Graham, who's military service has been limited to being an assistant adjutant general (Army lawyer), wants more time to examine Hagel's two Purple Hearts.
BRUCE, sadly I must agree with you. I've made lot's of excuses for McCain based on both his wartime experience as well as the fact that at times he was a "maverick" and veered from the party line. His day has come and gone.
And Lindsey is so damn scared about being primaried in 2014 he's always has to prove his conservative credientials, lest he be painted as a liberal.
Typical liberal wing-nuts, hate the veterans, sometimes obama can't help himself and that hatred towards all military exudes from him despite his best lying face.
McCain is NOT our representative. He is not even our Senator. McCain is the world’s greatest loser.
He escaped prosecution in the Charles Keating fraud with the help of his lap dog... Lindsey Graham. He lied about how his arms were broken after crashing a multimillion dollar plane into a Viet Nam rice paddy. He first said the civilians who saved his azz from drowning did it, then he said the soldiers did it. The truth is he did it. According to eject procedure his arms were to be held closely to his chest.
He never learned or his panic was in charge and his arms were broken on ejection.
He cheated on his wife who stood by him while he was in a Viet Nam camp with a blond beer baroness in Hawaii.
Sid was in Hawaii 'recuperating' from the disaster and death of fellow seamen when he nearly destroyed the USS Forestall due to not following protocol.
And he still stands between the release of MIA info from Viet Nam because it may describe his true role in the camp?
Again, Sid is the world's greatest loser and Arizonans are not at all happy with his antics.
But his war chest is so huge thanks to the folks he has 'befriended' that it is almost (I said almost) impossible to unseat him
He is a great poster child for TERM LIMITS.
This loser has never held a job in commerce, industry or service fields always eating from the public trough. And when he retires or gets fired he will still receive a full senators pay for the rest of his life.
That alone sickens the populace!
Roc, Must be just like liberal wingnuts. Hating themselves, since liberals fought at least the last four wars we have been involved in
Whether you like it or not McCain and Hagel are and always will be War Heroes.
Regardless of their politics that's something None of You; Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal can take away.
You are all disgraces to imply otherwise.
Get over it and yourselves.
More obstructionism! And for what? Maybe we should march on Washington insisting that these bozos don't get paid until they seriously, SERIOUSLY, take up the people's work.
Cracker must have been out of town last November when Americans re-elected their President.
Cracker - polly is coming after you!
Filth like you is not even human. Clearly the deodorizing needs to be done at the hovel you call home! What rock did you crawl out from under?
I am ready, all fired up!! It is time the American people do something about these nutty Republicans.
Cracker: What planet were you on last November? Not only did the American electorate re-elect President Obama for a 2nd term, they did it with a significant margin over Romney, your party's idea of a winning candidate. Looks like the American voters had another idea who was the one most capable of running the country. So keep on with your venomous assaults on Democrats, "libtards", and other nasty little comments so that more and more of the voters in America see the true nature of the GOP/Tea Party. You're the best selling point for Democrat candidates we can ask for!
John -
A 'significant' margin? What fantasy world are you living in? <2% is a statistical tie, for God's sake! And the republicans kept substantial control of the House - just to STOP the liberal idiots like Obama and his minions.
You really are mathematically challenged, aren't you?
Credible source, cupcake?
2012 Presidential election results:
Barack Obama - 62,611,250 - 50.6%
Mitt Romney - 59,134,475 - 47.8
Others - 1,968,682 - 1.6%
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/election-map-2012/president/
@Jongone, Total BS
You better get a more up to date election results.
Obama 65,899,625 (51.02%)
Romney 60,928,981 (47.18%)
www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php
FRR why are you even on here you are a paid troll of the DNC. Whenever we see your post we know its slanted so far left it can NOT see straight in out in front of your face.
Quit with your WHINING. and your LIES.
Yeah, put them and all you nutty Democrats on a boat and ship you to Antarctica.
Or maybe Iran would love to have you?
Obama .42% difference
Romney .62% difference
Jason, I was not trying to mislead anybody and was off by 1.04% and you call that total BS? Bit touchy? Thanks for the updated numbers.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results
Lying sacks of sh*t !! . . . those two old, disgusting relics don't have more time! . . . they look like they're dead already.
Get a clue.
Politicians lie.
Doesn't matter what party they're from.
They are no different than Rangel or Franks or Dodd or Bush or Obama or Chenney or Gore or Clinton...
ETC.
Get rid of the GOP and Tea Party....they are worse than Useless. As far as I can tell they only make things worse, so why have them at all??
"Get rid of the GOP and Tea Party."
What a worthless POS you are tim & charlie. I think you should be in Isreal when this TURDSUCKER get appointed then. As this PINHEAD has said he would NOT defend Isreal if Iran attacked them. He also said he would NOT do anything if Iran got NUCLEAR weapons. What a PUSSY that has NO respect for America & its ALLIES.
The idiots in the party of no will be gone in 2014
Harry and Nancy will be gone? Thank God!
Jim are you saying the LIBERALS are finally going to be GONE. As they are the ones that are refusing to compromise on there sequestor deal. This Hagel guy is a pinhead, if they put him in charge look for Iran to become nuclear in a very short while. As he has said he will NOT go to war with them even if they got nuclear capabilities, he also stated he would NOT back up Isreal if they were attacked by Iran. A worthless POS is all Hagel is.
Repugnicans are at it again, doing what they do best. Congressional gridlock has become the main avenue by which Repugnicans attempt to have any influence on the democratic process.
the problem with you lib s that we have a president the lies his a$$ off and you all suck it up like milk from the tit. just like the media would not vet the background of the president because of their love fest for him. most likely Hegel will get confirmed but the senators have a right to dig deeper in to what he has said. you scream and moan how bad the repubs are but look at you own part for one how about all of the bills that the house has passed and they wont even see a vote or debated on the senate floor. Carter was the worst president in history but he will be replaced by this one.
"W" was by far a worse President than Carter. Carter didn't get 2979 American civilians killed on American soil and then stonewall the whitewashing investigative body that he underfunded and limited in its scope and powers. Carter didn't get 4.000 US servicemen killed and another 25.000 injured in an unwarranted invasion of another foreign country. Carter didn't ignore all the warnings of a coming derivatives IMPLOSION and need to provide the same FRAUDSTERS who had funded his appointment and stolen re-election campaigns with publicly funded BAILOUTS. Carter didn't saddle us with huge debts and sink us into a recession so large that had it not been for TARP and a $1 TTTrillion Stimulus, it would have been a depression which sank not only our own economy but the world's as well.
all the "peoples" representatives who didnt bother to show up at the classified DOD meeting should not be allowed to vote on anything in regards to Bengahzi, guess who they bee?
Paul, GW Bush got 4.400 US servicemen killed in that unwarranted invasion of Iraq.
and "W" was our worst president. even the people who voted for him know it.
111Dave111
Actually Dave, I think William Henry Harrison was our worst President.
Paul-977599 and 111Dave111
By your rational...
Wouldn't either Kennedy or LBJ be the worst President?
After all, you can blame either of them for our involvement in Vietnam.
Kennedy started us down that path and Johnson escalated our involvement.
Far more American lives were lost there than in Iraq.
On top of that the Country(South Vietnam) fell because we failed.
Midle that does NOT count. that was just a conflict not a war. The LIBTARDS will find some way to make it not so. Carter was there savior till Oblamer came along now they got a new savior. One of these days they will actually do some research on there own(I doubt it) then they will find it was the DEMS that took out the housing & financial markets, sure it imploded on Bush's watch, yet it was the DEMS policies that caused the whole mess.
Viet Nam started under Eisenhower. Nixon was supposed to escalate it. Kennedy was trying to stop it. The CIA killed him for that at the Federal Reserve bank's behest. LBJ wanted to live, so he went along with the MIC's scam.
None of these Presidents allowed 2979 innocent American civilians to be slaughtered on American soil and then blocked the investigation into their mass murder. Neither "W" or Cheney ever testified while under oath as to what they knew and when they knew it.
These current Republicans continue to show why they are going down in history as the biggest losers and worst to ever serve office.
rosloe, led by the worst President in history. Nothing but a smug, arrogant, lying, manipulating, POS
And Joe he must also be a some kind of peace nik; he's served one full term and hasn't ordered the invasion of a single sovereign nation yet!!
joe - no the worst President in history left the White House when President Obama took office. But, Bush is and always will be the worst!
Amen ,Joe
Seeking, more of your libtard delusional outlook. Seek mental help.
joe - there isn't enough mental help in the world for idiots like you! You truly are the bottom of the barrel. Crawl back under your rock!
Hey Joe you could always leave the USA if you hate the President and America so much! You should leave now hater.
Emwardoooo, I love my country, unfortunately the President is a worthless, lying, smug,arrogant and socialist POS.
SeekingSanity don't be clueless.
William Henry Harrison was the worst President.
Fiesty owned you, BTW.
Go take a crack at her or run and hide.
I thought this was about the WORTHLESS POS HAGEL. Why are the LIBTARDS talking about Bush. I guess they are still trying to blame him for something on Hagel. Hagel should of NEVER said he would DO NOTHING if Iran got NUCLEAR weapons.
Did Cornyn serve in the military? Did Lemar Alexander serve in the miltary? Did the sassy pants boy friend of McCain, Lindsey Graham ever serve? All these draft dodging, corrupt ass wipes cannot hold of candle to Hagel but they are going to hold up his approval to get at Obama. They may as well go home and not return to the Senate because they are nothing but useless wastes of time.
Jen : Sen. Graham did serve and if I am not mistaken he still is in the "Air Force Reserve" as a JAG and holds the rank of Full Col. Am not sure of Sen. Cornyn or Alexander however.
Jennifer,
Did you serve in the military? Senator Lemar Alexander served 2 terms as Governor of Tennessee (and controlled the state's National Guard military), was President of the University of Tennessee, and visited war zones as a U.S. senator. Senator Cornyn knows the military well. Before he became an associate justice in the Texas state Supreme Court, he moved around the world as a U.S. military family member; his father was a USAF colonel.
Jennifer, stay home until you leave your biased and liberal leanings and give knee-jerk opinions.
Stop Waste
Alexander was not in the military but the point I was making is that the Republicans are pissed because Hagel criticized Cheney and the Bush Administration for Iraq and the surge and that will never be forgiven. That does not make his criticism less accurate or his opinion of the lying crook Cheney not true. Cheney lying to the US and Congress so he could profit off the Iraq war should put him in prison for treason. Hagel is also cautious about sending our troops into Iran because the Chicken Hawks in Congress want war.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/07/chuck-hagel-iraq_n_2427986.html
Hagel is a true war hero from the Viet Nam era and if he was honest about Iraq and cares about our troops, he outshines many who were dead wrong about Iraq and are now pushing for war with Iran. The truth hurts and if you can't handle it, it is you who should stay home.
Who is pushing for War against Iran?
Post a link.
Actually, post a credible link.
You need to stop believing what Huff or whatever outlet is spoon feeding you.
This hold up has nothing to do with Hagel criticizing the Bush Administration.
There are completely different politics at work here.
And yes as I said above Hagel is a Hero.
The military certainly is leaderless. After all, President Obama is the Commander in Chief!!!!!
Harry, make them stand up!!!!