Lugar: Hagel criticism 'unfortunate and unfair'

PUBLISHED, 11:25 AM ET - Former Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana had tough words for his party, his primary opponent who defeated him last cycle but went on to lose in the fall to a Democrat, and opponents of ex-Sen. Chuck Hagel, President Obama’s nominee for defense secretary.

Lugar, who had been chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and served with Hagel on the committee, said the former Nebraska senator’s positions were “legitimately held” and are now being “selectively pulled out of context,” he told NBC’s Chuck Todd on MSNBC’s The Daily Rundown. That’s something Lugar called “unfortunate and unfair.”


The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd takes a "deep dive" look into former Sen. Dick Lugar's recent parting comments on partisanship and Republicans in Congress. Lugar joins The Daily Rundown to discuss.

More broadly, Lugar was critical of the Tea Party without naming it. Asked if it has been detrimental to the GOP, Lugar said, “I believe that this is generally the consensus.”

He added, “Republicans, who really want to see a majority in the Senate, there really have to be able candidates that appeal not just to core Republicans, but to independents, and even some Democratic crossovers.”

Lugar declined to criticize Richard Mourdock, his primary opponent, by name or say if the right person won in the Indiana Senate race. Mourdock and Democrat Joe Donnelly had been in what appeared to be a 50-50 race until Mourdock said that if a woman was raped it was “something that God intended to happen.”

But, Lugar did say, “My opponent made some very egregious errors,” emphasizing that Mourdock’s performance was a drag on Republicans up and down the ballot, including on newly elected Republican Gov. Mike Pence, whom Lugar said would have likely won by more.

“There were consequences to the Senate situation,” Lugar said.

As for his own campaign, Lugar said, “I have no regrets.” But he added that low turnout in the primary is what doomed him. “That was my problem,” he said. “We needed to get our votes out.”

Lugar praised President Obama, calling his State of the Union address “comprehensive” and describing the president as someone “who really does have a unifying spirit.”

But he knocked down speculation that he had wanted to serve in the Obama administration and said the president needed reach out more to members of Congress on important issues, like the budget.

“The fact is,” Lugar said, “I did not want to serve in the Obama administration. I did not want to be an appointed official.”

And: “I did receive a few invitations [to the White House] and appreciated those opportunities. Nevertheless, there was very little of it.”

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“who really does have a unifying spirit.”

It's a shame the Dick Lugar's of the party are being replaced with scum like Ted Cruz!

  • 51 votes
#1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:25 AM EST

Cruzie will be successful at further marginalizing the TeaPeople!

Akin and Mourdock spoke out loud about the policies that were supposed to remain secret and as a result were defeated and called 'Stupid' by the establishment republicans.

Keep talking Cruzie.....start with the vote against VAWA!

  • 38 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:35 AM EST

Scum, really. Pot calling kettle black!

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:36 AM EST

It really is amazing the tone and content of what so many Republicans (more so in the Senate vs the House) that are no longer serving, say about their Party.

For everyone just to take an off the top of their head recall of Democrats that are no longer serving vs. Republicans that are no longer serving, and the difference between what these folks have to say or not say about their respective Party is really quite striking.

Also didn't seen any comments in the article from the Senator praising the response(s) from the up n comers within his Party...telling as well.

  • 22 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:36 AM EST

I've done my fair share of presentations in front of people, so at many levels, I can feel were Rubio was. But watching him, I could only think of one of those horror flicks where people are looking in a mirror and think they 'see' something kind of moment.

I was like for a nanosecond Rubio swore he saw frothing at the mouth in the reflection of the camera he was looking at and in his minds eye, the only antidote was a swig of water, that at time, had to seem like 20 feet away.

You could see in his eye that he probably thought he said in a nice, calming voice 'excuse me 1 minute' before his body went into absolute survival mode as he instantly went from the mannerisms of a US Senator to a crack addict that just got their appetite back.

It truly was beautiful to see and really better than anything, any one could have scripted.

Forget Art imitating Life....Life imitated Life here and that f'd up moment quite nicely summed up the f'd up condition that today's GOP clearly finds itself in.

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:52 AM EST

It truly was beautiful to see and really better than anything, any one could have scripted.

Absolutely Allen. It may only been second to watching TeaPeople Rep Cathy McMorris-Rogers, try to sink into her chair, out of camera view (unsuccessfully) when President Obama spoke about the Paycheck Fairness Act!

Like lots of other stuff, Paycheck Fairness stalled in the House!

No doubt she would be A-OK with being paid less than her male counterparts in the House!

  • 22 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:00 PM EST

Fisty. Cruse will most likely only be a one term senator. He is a right wing tea party. But the Tea party is all but dead. The big money people that ran the tea party lost so much money and only got 2 people elected. Well we have seen they have pulled up stakes and the tea party tent is no more. There just aren't enough uneducated people to keep it going and people Like The Koch brothers didn't get where they are by wasting money like this. They are most likely working on a way to kill Mitt after Mitts son said Mitt didn't want to be president anyway. Old Mitten might just be the next Jimmy Huffa. I have always thought Dick Lugar was and is a good man. If he could help the President in any way, he should. That is what Real American's do.

  • 17 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:38 PM EST

. I have always thought Dick Lugar was and is a good man.

Me too Chuck!

Lugar was a Republican who I often disagreed with but could always respect!

It's sad there are so few of them left in todays GOP.

  • 25 votes
#1.8 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:43 PM EST

FR: The other side of the political spectrum experiences the same problem. How many democrats are there that conservatives can "respect?" The faces of the Democrats are not Kennedy (JFK)-type democrats--their type is long gone. I used to be one of those--until the party was taken over by the shrill, name-calling types like Waxman, Boxer, Pelosi et. al. Now I'm in the libertarian camp. Tip O'Neill and Reagan fought during the day, but could set that aside and get along well over a drink or three at night. Those days are gone and neither side is doing much to repair the damage.

Hence: Quo Vadis, USA?

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:19 PM EST

"Republicans, who really want to see a majority in the Senate, there really have to be able candidates that appeal not just to core Republicans, but to independents, and even some Democratic crossovers."

This new group of Republicans is nothing more than a bunch of rabble that don't know anything except hate speech. There's absolutely nothing "appealing" about them. Nothing.

  • 13 votes
#1.10 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:54 PM EST

the former Nebraska senator’s positions were “legitimately held” and are now being “selectively pulled out of context,”

Where is the politician that doesn't take events out of context?

    #1.11 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:31 PM EST

    scott-579755

    You left out "Clueless" This guy was a radio talk show host 8 years ago. Where exactly did he get training to be the leader of the most powerful armed forces on earth, head of the Pentagon!? Is that not insane!?

    That would be like me getting asked to be the head of a heart surgery team because I know someone on the board! Same principle.

    Not to mention he was CEO and part owner of the very voting machines that got him elected out of the blue by an 81% vote ratio over a FAVORITE! Google Hagel owns the voting machines that go Obama elected and all the facts are right in front of you!

    Like the guy he beat out said "If you want to win an election, rig the voting machines!"

    • 1 vote
    #1.12 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:59 PM EST

    Hey Shovelface, wasn't your hero Ronald Reagan a "B" movie actor? Wow, what great credentials for POTUS. Hagel was a war hero and a Senator, which is a lot more qualification than Reagan, Bush or Cheney.

    • 11 votes
    #1.13 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:23 PM EST

    The nearest example I can think of in our History as a nation, to today's Teaparty Republicans and Libertarians is the No-Nothing party of the 19th century.These Tea-groups are social fanatics,anti-women,anti-immigrant,anti-worker,anti-poor people,anti-minority,anti-government,anti-education.And to put the icing on the cake,science deniers as well. They have become defined,not by what they are for,but by everything they are against. In many states they "are" the Republican and Libertarian parties. They and their anti-American ideology are a real threat to our functioning as a democracy.

    • 5 votes
    #1.14 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:38 PM EST

    Lugar was Obama's favorite Republican. He was so left moderates couldn't even stand him. That is why he got dumped in the primaries. Republicans don't mind some compromise, but a complete sell-out is not tollerable.

      #1.15 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:27 PM EST

      Lugar = Bad Loser.

      Something one would expect from a Progressive, but NOT a Republican.....well maybe a turn coat.

      • 1 vote
      #1.16 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:18 PM EST

      Cruz is vying for McConnell's legendary legacy.

      Most unhonorable american to walk our soil, let alone capitol hill.

      • 2 votes
      #1.17 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:19 PM EST

      He was so left moderates couldn't even stand him. - DB Akron

      Senator Lugar has always been a conservative. However he is an old school conservative. That means that he treats the opposition with respect, despite his political differences with them. He has always been courteous to President Obama. One of the major problems with the current Republicans like DB is that they view being a gentleman as being a disqualification for conservatives.

      • 2 votes
      #1.20 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:21 AM EST

      quovadisusa

      " How many democrats are there that conservatives can "respect?""

      Speaking as an independent who voted for Reagan twice and GHW Bush in '88 I think you need to look a little closer. Even in the supposedly more moderate Senate you had supposedly moderate Senators like McCain & Graham unleashing personal vendettas against Hagel that were nothing about substance and had everything to do with his coming to realize that the Iraq war was a mistake from the onset. Retiring supposedly "moderate" Senator from Georgia Saxby Chambliss unleashed a smear campaign against war hero Max Cleland in his 2002 Senate race that BOTH McCain and Hagel said was reprehensible. Even my own former Senator from Iowa Chuck Grassley, whom I voted for in every election from 1980 until 2004 has gone so far to the right from where he was you can't even see him from the center. Plus you have the 2 rape candidates- Murdoch and Akin- who failed to make the club. And then of course there's Ted Cruz, who even McCain and Graham said went too far.

      And in the house it's a hundred times worse: Michelle Bachmann. Louie Gohmert. Steve King. Steve Stockman (the "genius" who invited Ted Nugent to the State of the Union speech to counter all the victims of gun violence in attendance). The recently departed Allen "80 Communists" West and Joe "child support" West. Paul Broun, who sits on the Science, Space & Technology committee called the Big Bang theory, EMBRYOLOGY and evolution "Lies from the pit of hell."

      Yeah, the Democrats have a few doozies of their own.

      But to say that there's anything like parity between the two parties when it comes to asshattedness, lunacy and just plain being mean spirited is WAY off base in my book.

      • 2 votes
      #1.21 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:30 AM EST
      • Dick Lugar has something that is totally unwelcomed in the 21st century Republican party --- a functioning brain.
      • 1 vote
      #1.23 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:51 PM EST
      Reply

      This sore loser needs to just go away.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:33 AM EST

      And then what? Replace him and others like him with people covered in sores? Geez WCA, are you sure you are not secretly working for the Dems?

      Hows that bridge coming along ... gotta love those Canadians.

      • 7 votes
      #2.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:45 AM EST

      C'mon, White Collar, Republicans need more vocal moderates. That he is no longer serving certainly has relevance, but we'll take what we can get at this point. Mr. Rubio's weak speech last night did us no good.

      • 16 votes
      #2.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:50 AM EST

      Hagel is pro-Iran and anti-Israel. Otherwise, he's a peach.

      • 4 votes
      #2.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:32 PM EST

      Hey there White Collar...how about your regale us with tales of how President Obama saved your job...you know, the one designing cupholders...

      Hypocrite...

      • 9 votes
      #2.4 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:46 PM EST

      Hagel served his country honorably, almost losing his life in the process. As a fellow Vietnam combat veteran, I share his concern about making sure that we only send our young men and women to war when it is absolutely necessary for the security of the nation. I also resent all the so-called patriots who are ready to fight at the drop of a hat, but only so long as they and their children are not required to participate, and as long as they don't have to be taxed to pay for it. Fight, but with other people's kids and other people's money. Bring back the draft and require any comabt operations to be funded by a surtax and we'll see how much of an apetite you guys have for war.

      o

      • 17 votes
      #2.5 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:54 PM EST

      Scott the vast Moriarty of American's think like Hagel. Israel has gotten the USA into enough wars. They keep doing things to incite war, and then who has to fight the wars for them, YES The USA. No country should have there own Lobby to get things done on congress for there country at the cost to our country. Hagel was right, He was a US Senator, not an Israeli Senator..... America first.....

      • 7 votes
      #2.6 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:45 PM EST

      CAL, that's not a bad idea in some ways. The military doesn't want a universal draft but, over the last ten years or so, have had to lower the bar and accept recruits with criminal records in order to maintain an all-volunteer Army.

      In the next war, let's have no more easy deferments. During Vietnam you could avoid the draft by remaining in college or, having graduated, go on to graduate school.

      But the truth is, that's disruptive and in the long run damaging.

      What would really make people think about Hagel's reluctance to go to war would be that tax surcharge you mentioned. Everybody would have to pay for it and pronto, unlike Afghanistan and Iraq, which our grandkids will pay for. That would hit the more rabid hawks where it hurts.

      • 7 votes
      #2.7 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:48 PM EST

      Robert, FYI, the military is no longer in need of anybody and everybody--since the "depression" (recession) started and continues somewhat today, the military is now picking and choosing---GD's are no longer just acceptable and the testing has become a bit more rigorous. There is more competition for volunteers than before, good job with an education opportunities thrown in--Army reached their quota, the last word was the Navy was still taking apps.

        #2.8 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:11 PM EST

        This sore loser needs to just go away.

        That's hysterical and typically teabagger. Your little band of lying, idiot lunatics defeats Lugar with a woman hating sociopath who goes on to get smeared in the general election after speaking the truth about what you teabaggers really believe.

        I love how you "win", "white collar". Please keep it up and go make some lemonade with your little darling Sharon Angle.

        • 2 votes
        #2.9 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:59 PM EST

        Right on Cal! Lets send Cheney's Lesbo Daughter over for a little fighting now that we are making sure that both women and LBGT folks are getting equal rights to combat. Ol' Liz probably has more 'sack" than her daddy anyway!

        • 3 votes
        #2.10 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:06 PM EST
        Reply

        He's not a member of the T-Party, So he'll probably get run out of office.

        What a shame.

        • 9 votes
        Reply#3 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:33 AM EST

        If you're talking about Lugar, he was already VOTED out of office. Keep up.

        • 5 votes
        #3.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:37 AM EST

        Fuzzy, Mr. Lugar is no longer in office, so he can't be run out.

        Someone made a comment a couple days ago in response to my fellow Reasonable Republican poster here at FR, Frank Grimes, and the gist of the comment was why do moderate Republicans not speak up against the extremists that appear to be taking over the party? Well, here's one that has and much respect to him for doing so.

        I harp on posters here that paint all Republicans as radical right monsters, and will continue to do so. In my observation moderate Republicans, indeed moderates from both sides of center generally are not cut from activist cloth and tend to be quieter than their extreme brethren.

        In the end it is up to the voters to quell extremism.

        • 16 votes
        #3.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:46 AM EST

        he's out of office, and not going to run again, so he can be truthful:

        Lugar praised President Obama, calling his State of the Union address “comprehensive” and describing the president as someone “who really does have a unifying spirit.”

        • 12 votes
        #3.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:47 AM EST

        Yes, unfortunately Mr. Lugar now has a seat on the "Republicans Used To Love Us But Now They Hate Us" bench next to Colin Powell and Chuck Hagel.

        • 17 votes
        #3.4 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:07 PM EST

        Mark in SoCal: so... WHEN are changing that R to I, mate? Anytime soon? As in, before the Tea Party sinks your whole ship, soon? Just curious....

        I have to disagree that is up to voters to quell extremism; while I understand your point, this is a recent change in politics: only the worst of the worst did not make their 'dates' this election cycle. If you're speaking to the fact that enough of your kind staying away from the R Primaries will find the R party with more of the same, then that would be a point. But that isn't actually the 'voters' job: through history it has been the PARTY'S JOB to make certain that their candidates are palitable enough to be elected by the majority of the people in the country.

        DaNoid: you can add Snow and a few more "time to retire out of this shyte" deciders to that list, eh?

        • 1 vote
        #3.5 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:17 PM EST

        TO: AlexTheBlade who wrote:

        "...I have to disagree that is up to voters to quell extremism ... that isn't actually the 'voters' job: through history it has been the PARTY'S JOB to make certain that their candidates are palitable enough to be elected by the majority of the people in the country."

        You're talking straight party politics there, taking control and decision-making away from the voters where it rightfully belongs.

        When are Republicans going to wake up and realize they work for the People, NOT the Party.

        If Republicans work for the "Party" let them pay you!

        • 6 votes
        #3.6 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:05 PM EST

        "...I have to disagree that is up to voters to quell extremism ... that isn't actually the 'voters' job: through history it has been the PARTY'S JOB to make certain that their candidates are palitable enough to be elected by the majority of the people in the country."

        I don't get it. How can you argue that it isn't up to voters to quell extremism since, after all, it is the voters (not the party) that put them in power?

        A lot of extremists were put into office in the 2010 elections, generally described as a "shellacking" for the Democratic party. It was the result of a drive to clean house, get rid of the old, bring in fresh new faces -- and a general disgust with government. They're so intransigent they've almost managed to bring the rest of the government to a halt. The reasons they're there is that their districts were gerrymandered in their favor, and their constituents believe in sequestration and defaulting on US Treasury bonds. Too many voters still believe Obama is a Muslim, and there is talk of secession, an idea some of them find appealing.

        The party made it possible for the zealots and ideologues and Ayn Rand fans to be elected but it didn't put them in office. The voters did that. And they'll stay in office until the emotional pendulum begins to swing back towards common sense instead of lunacy.

        • 4 votes
        #3.7 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:03 PM EST

        If you're talking about Lugar, he was already VOTED out of office. Keep up.

        Isn't that cute? "talk..." is telling others to try to keep up. Lugar was defeated by a complete wack job that accidentally told the truth about what the "tea" party believes - and then was overwhelmingly defeated by the Democrat.

        I like how you "keep up", "talk...". You couldn't do a better job for the Democrats if you were to work for the DNC!!

        Thanks for the warning in the tired old phrase you use to identify yourself, but it is completely unnecessary. Considering where your head is stuck, I think we would all rather talk to the hand...

        • 1 vote
        #3.8 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:31 PM EST

        Yes republicans are plenty stupid. With constant evidence they want to believe that President Obama is a Muslim when he is a Christian. Not born in Hawaii when he was born in Hawaii. Has no birth certificate when his Hawaii birth certificate is available to everyone who wants to see it on the Internet. Too many people in this country are not informed of facts. They are getting misinformed by liars, haters, loathsome people. Many of the republicans in Congress are very jealous that President Obama has made it to that pentacle. Just like how hatefully McCain acts because he lost to President Obama. The better man won and the better man has won again and we are fortunate in America because we have an honest and caring president who will do what is right.

        • 1 vote
        #3.9 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:10 AM EST

        Yes, unfortunately Mr. Lugar now has a seat on the "Republicans Used To Love Us But Now They Hate Us" bench next to Colin Powell and Chuck Hagel.

        If you can't find that bench it is right next to Joe Leiberman's bench

          #3.10 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:51 AM EST
          Reply

          Great to hear the old guard of the republicans have not gone over the far right edge, and hopefully never will. Have seen a lot of them in their 80's start looking more liberal every day compared to their Tea Party and far right sections, maybe because they remember Eisenhower (and even Nixon started the EPA and OSHA) more than they think of the newbies on the GOP block brought on by Citizens United repub supreme court judges' decision backing (i.e., fascism). I give those oldies more credit every day as I see them understanding what took over their successors.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#4 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:50 AM EST

          ....it's morons like Lugar who need to shut up and listen to the taxpayers who don't want business as usual....the Tea Party will take over the Republican Party because they're afraid to reveal the truth and confront the empty suit in the White House.....

          • 1 vote
          Reply#5 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:03 PM EST

          the Tea Party will take over the Republican Party because they're afraid to reveal the truth

          TeaPeople truth tellers? Wow!

          Tell the truth TeaPeople....Yup, more truth tellers like Akin and Mourdock let's folk know all about the ugly policies of the GOP.......Yeah!

          Oh, but wait, Akin and Mourdock LOST!..........Thanks guys, for letting the electorate in on the ugly policies of the GOP that you obviously thought was a winning message.....

          • 12 votes
          #5.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:10 PM EST

          @nycguy

          It's single digit idiots like you that will ensure that the GOP never regains power. Until they purge the party of these tea bagging morons they will continue to be a pain in the ass and an obstruction to improving economic and social conditions in this country.

          • 13 votes
          #5.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:13 PM EST

          chilled & drano....you idiots should try getting jobs.....a little sweat and toil will wise you up real fast to the realities of life....then again, airheads like you may need to stay in Mom's basement so she doesn't have to worry about you hurting yourselves....

            #5.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:31 PM EST

            TO: nycguy who wrote:

            "chilled & drano....you idiots should try getting jobs.....a little sweat and toil will wise you up real fast to the realities of life....then again, airheads like you may need to stay in Mom's basement so she doesn't have to worry about you hurting yourselves..."

            I love it when you talk like that! It pretty much guarantees that Republican Wackos will eventually alienate just about everybody, convince the regulars that Republicans are nothing but a bunch of hatemongers, and nobody in their right mind will ever vote a Republican again. Yipee!

            Don't stop the hate wackos!

            • 7 votes
            #5.4 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:02 PM EST

            It's like a demented version of "It's a Wonderful Life." Every time "nycguy" posts, a Democrat gets a vote.

            Keep it up, "nycguy". As the America hating, Anti-Christian, lying propagandist that you are, it only benefits the Democrats when you stupidly announce who it is you are for or against.

            • 4 votes
            #5.5 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:36 PM EST

            @nycguy

            I would have responded sooner but I was driving home from work, like I have 6 days a week for over 30 years. see the real issue here is that you and your fellow malcontents simply don't have the mental capacity to believe that people who do support themselves could have a differing opinion than you. It must really suck being so close minded, suspicious of your fellow citizens and self centered.

            • 5 votes
            #5.6 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:46 PM EST

            ...uh, yea drano.....just keep working , sucker, the leeches you voted for are calling for more of your taxes.....

              #5.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:35 PM EST
              Reply

              End the Fed

              • 2 votes
              Reply#6 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:14 PM EST

              How rich do you want Venezuela to be?

              • 3 votes
              #6.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:31 PM EST
              Reply

              The republican party has traditionally been a great party in this country. It is very sad. It is even sadder that they can't see it. Men like Dick Luger are a big loss for them. Now they have representatives like Rubio and Ryan and sincerely believe they have gained.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#7 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:27 PM EST

              The "Tea Party" and their supporters constantly act and speak as if they are a different, separate, stand alone political group or party. Yet they espouse nothing but Republican talking points couched in patriotic drivel. They're the amorphous group Republican far right candidates run to for support. Like Fox "news", they love to agitate and pretend but offer nothing of substance with regard to working together to solve the nation's myriad problems. Senator Lugar was a voice of reason and placed the nation above party. The current crowd of Republicans/Tea Party wannabes have more in common with the likes of draft dodger and big mouth, Ted Nugent, than they do for the true patriots like Senators Lugar and Hagel.

              • 14 votes
              Reply#8 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:35 PM EST

              I agree with Luger. Unfortunately his once grand old party has lowered itself into hades because the moderates allowd the extremist right wing nut job Fascist wannabes take control of their party. I have nothing against conservatives, I am conservative on some issues and liberal on others but those tea party folks seem to be just crazy. They support issues that are not in their own best interest and spew all sorts of crazy stuff. The sensible, moderate Republicans like Lugar need to regain control of their party or their party will go the way of the Federalists and the Whigs.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#9 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:58 PM EST

              We here in Indiana need our heads examined for not re-electing Dick Lugar. But that is how backward my home state has become. It really is scary.

              • 10 votes
              Reply#10 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:01 PM EST

              Jeff, I can sympathize. We elected Cruz. At least we have always been accused of being fairly backward. it is a new experience for Indiana

              • 6 votes
              Reply#11 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:06 PM EST

              Sharon said "the Jews control America". If Hagel fails to be confirmed, it will be confirmation that Shaon was correct. This is the test.

              Will our Congress choose Hagel and America or will they choose Netanyahu and Israel?

              • 7 votes
              Reply#12 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:44 PM EST

              If democrats hate the war so bad, why did your Representatives vote for it? Why did you not end it in five years of power? Why have you stepped up drone operations? Why have you not closed Guantanamo? Why did you go into Libya unilaterally and without Congressional support? I can respect that you feel strongly that war is bad. But the truth is you changed nothing because once in power Obama learned the reasons we had to stay on course. If it was wrong when Bush was in charge, it must be more wrong to have opposed it only to renew support and increase some methods of attack. So willing to look the other way when it is yourselves that carry on the actions you opposed. Can only mean you were wrong about it in the first place.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#13 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:35 PM EST

              Sane, had Bush been honest with the Dems they would have voted against it...unanimously! Mushroom clouds? Weapons of mass distruction? Iraq in alliance with Al Quiada? What a pile of sh*t he feed to Congress and the American people and you have the audacity to criticize the Dems for voting for the war? This argument has been settled long ago so stick your head in the sand for another 12 years, pal.

              • 8 votes
              #13.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:49 PM EST

              Forged Niger couments, etc. etc. But, the republicans were in total control of Washington (house, senate and presidency) when they did nothing to stop the 9/11 attacks, doubled military spending and got us into Iraq under false pretenses.

              • 2 votes
              #13.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:34 PM EST

              Sane - 2794278

              Where is it written that democrats are against war? Obama said and many agree "I am not against war, I am against stupid wars."

              Democrats have always fought, supported, funded our war efforts; we are not the peace party I or others would like, but we do live in a dangerous world and we are not as willing to back off from war as you might think.

              There certainly many more pacifist in our party than yours, but, I doubt you are a big war guy yourself. What military did you serve in?

              • 1 vote
              #13.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:30 AM EST

              Sane - The thing that makes Hagel so appealing, is that since he actually served in a war and saw first hand what it is like; he is less llikely to just start with the "you are either with us or against us" rhetoric we heard from Bush/Cheney. We all should be very wary of going into any kind of big money wars right now, and, about 90% of Americans support the drone strikes. Al Queda (sp?) has declared war on the west and all is fair in war.

              I personally am not enamored with the drone strikes; it will probably just end up creating a lot of haters.

              It is just complete crappola that this guy has not yet been confirmed. Are you aware of his voting record? He is a conservative republican; by any real standards.

              • 1 vote
              #13.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:39 AM EST
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              Meanwhile, his Progressive agenda is going to be decimated by HIS budget sequestration cuts but he will still blame the Republicans.

              You need to check your facts!. The POTUS didn't come up with sequestration. Sequestration was the Republican led, Democratic accepted resolution to the debt ceiling debate. The Republicans demanded cuts in return for a raised debt ceiling. Since the bipartisan panel couldn't agree on what those cuts should be, sequestration went into effect. Now the GOP wants to cry foul and whine about how badly sequestration will hurt the people when this was their brainiac idea in the first place.

              The GOP knows that should sequestration happen they are going to get blamed (as they should) and now they are trying to back pedal out of it. These friggin GOPer's are so full of #$^* I could use them to fertilize my garden this year.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#14 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:04 PM EST

              You need to Stop lying....but...that's all you liberals are good at.....your King Obama wanted sequestration...and I hope he gets it....lol..

                #14.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:12 PM EST

                Back that diatribe up with some facts, girl. Hear me? Facts, not Faux Noise innuendos and false accusations! God, you're stupid.

                • 8 votes
                #14.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:51 PM EST

                I guess we will have to cut "dixie girl" a little slack. When generations of inbreeding are the norm, reality is a difficult thing to face. She isn't even smart enough to understand the basic idea of a democratic election.

                Referring to President Obama as a "king" is about as anti-American as you can get.

                So, which is it "dixie girl". Are you too inbred and stupid to understand democratic elections, or do you despise the United States and everything it stands for?

                • 2 votes
                #14.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:26 PM EST
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                Dick Lugar is one of the last remaining Republicans who thought beyond the fences of ideaalogy and reached across the aisle to do somthing the current crop of conservative zealots don't have a clue about: Respect for all colleagues and most importantly, COMPROMISE.

                If the GOPs want to rebrand themselves they've got to do something other than coating their unfortunate brand with syrup and become something other than the Party of No! Most Americans are fed up with them.

                • 6 votes
                Reply#15 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:46 PM EST

                Well Jack you seem hurt to be called on the facts. You forgot though that the WMD evidence was that past to Bush by the Clinton administration only months before. Heck Obama still blames Bush for stuff five years later. And you again gave Obama a pass for his conduct for the past five years. If it was wrong why does he still support and increase the efforts. It's because it keeps America safe. Sooo good call W.

                As far as Lugar being the last GOP free thinker, you mean the last one to vote with Dems. And the last Dem free thinker was Lieberman, and look how he got treated. But in that case he did better without his party. Doubt it will go that way Lugar.

                  Reply#16 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:27 PM EST

                  Losses like Lugar are a shame for the two party system. Moderate Republicans need to get off their duffs and vote in primaries or they will get Mourdock, Akin, Sharon Angle, Cruz etc. This will lead to nothing happening in congress. I am a proud liberal, but see a need for two strong, but reasonable parties who understand the only way to achieve anything in life is through compromise!

                  PS We need a non partisan committee to determine congressional districts to stop gerrymandering, making it impossible for a moderate in either party to get elected.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#17 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:51 PM EST

                  We also need term limits on congress.

                  • 1 vote
                  #17.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:24 PM EST
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                  No such thing as a non partisan committee, because the parties would have to agree on who that is. We have two strong parties now, in fact almost 50/50 as the last election reflected, this has led to a do nothing congress which is wayyy better than if Obama had any more power. Checks and balances wins again.

                    Reply#18 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:13 PM EST

                    I do grudgingly admire the wishy-washy moderate establishment republicans; they are birds of a feather.

                      Reply#19 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:12 PM EST

                      The Tea Party mentality has destroyed the Republican Party. The sad part is they can't see it..

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#20 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:23 PM EST

                      The moderate ranks of GOP members of Congress (made up of people such as Richard Lugar ,Gerald Ford, Howard Baker,Bob Michael,& Bob Dole) is nearing extinction today. Reasonable moderates that are willing to reach across the aisle & who realize that compromise is required for a democratic government to work are rare birds indeed these days. They have been replaced by a howling pack of hyenas who refuse to give an inch on anything & think compromise is a dirty word.This new breed of Republican seems unconcerned about actually running the government.Their only interest seems to be trying to tear down the other side any way that they can & any time that they can.They reflexively oppose anything favored by President Obama simply because he favors it.

                      The recent nastiness in the confirmation hearings for Chuck Hagel is just the latest example of the lengths to which these people are willing to go.If Hagel, a long time GOP Senator, had been nominated to be Defense Secretary or anything else by George W. Bush every GOP member of the Senate would have voted to confirm him & raised holy hell if any democrat had dared vote against him. Such petty partisan bickering should be beneath members of Congress, but nothing seems beneath today's GOP Congressional caucus.Far too many of these people are radical idiots. The amount of harm they could cause this country is vast.Have they no shame at all???

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#21 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:51 PM EST

                      No shame...now and not tomorrow.

                        #21.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:47 PM EST
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                        I didn't watch the speech way too many good college bball games on. But what I did see while watching the reurns was a tired beat up and bored John Boehner. Who neither clapped or smiled at any part of this speech by O'Bama. This guy needs to be fired, thrown out of Washington along with his cohorts and made to go find a job! I'll bet you that McConnell and Boehner would be on the soup line and begging for unemployement checks.

                        There should be a term limit on all congress & senate seats. No benefits after their term is up and definitely no pensions.

                        Did that turkey and clown camo schmuck Ted Nugent show up??? What a bunch of friggen misfits!

                        Its a disgrace to America what has happened to the Grand Old Party! WTF did they come from?????

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#22 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:05 PM EST

                        Obama is an idiot. It appears he has no economic advisors. I once thought he had a few brains but he is brain dead. Get a clue about the economy for cryin out loud

                          Reply#23 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:14 PM EST

                          The TGOP becomes more loony by the day!

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                          Reply#24 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:14 PM EST

                          Texas Teabagger and Mexigrease Ted Cruz just shot his wad in less than two months. Lucky for the Democratic Party he as another 5 years and 10 months to make bigger asses out of the GOP Party before his loses his seat.

                          • 1 vote
                          Reply#25 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:18 PM EST

                          Yes. In a word, Yes!!!

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                          #25.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:48 PM EST
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