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Subscribe to RSSThe committee vote for Chuck Hagel to be defense secretary is set for tomorrow.
Top Republicans on the committee are threatening a walk out, but John McCain (R-AZ) isn't one of them.
“I will not participate in any walkout of tomorrow’s Committee vote – an action that would be disrespectful to Chairman [Carl] Levin and at odds with the best traditions of the Senate Armed Services Committee," said McCain, who previously served as ranking member of the committee.
McCain and Hagel, who both served in Vietnam, were Senate allies until Hagel split with McCain over his criticism of the surge in Iraq, which McCain proposed.
McCain gave Hagel a hard time for that stance during his confirmation hearing, demanding a yes or no answer to whether he was right or wrong about the surge. Hagel refused, and instead said Iraq may have been the worst foreign policy decision since Vietnam.
But, despite that tension, in the days since that uneven testimony, McCain, who says he's leaning against Hagel's nomination, has come to Hagel's defense, arguing against the outright blockage of Hagel's nomination.
Days after Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) left open the possibility of filibustering Hagel's nomination, McCain came out against that.
Then, after Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and James Inhofe (R-OK), the current ranking member of Armed Services, said they would try to block Hagel, McCain is saying those efforts go too far.
For Hagel's part, NBC's Michael Isikoff talked to Chuck Hagel’s brother Tom, who says Chuck Hagel will not withdraw. In fact, he’s going to “fight harder.” Tom Hagel says the only way he’d withdraw is if the White House wanted him to, and the White House is sticking by him.
Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said he would hold a full Senate vote on Hagel either Wednesday or Thursday, reports NBC's Mike Viqueira.
EDITOR'S NOTE: A previous version of this post reported that McCain was going to vote against Hagel, but McCain has not made a final decision. He is, instead "leaning against" Hagel.
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You mean to tell me McNasty is finished making a fool out of himself?
Well, by golly, if Hagel was good enough to serve under a McCain presidency, he's good enough to serve under President Obama!
Shame his BFF Graham didn't get the memo...
Good Lawd - the gremlins are positively ravenous today!
Republicans are the party of irresponsible fools, conservative value of "Stupid" !!!
Maybe he isn't done making a fool out of Hagel Fisty?
Right seaskip we are the ones promoting abortion on demand because that is so responsible?
So, walk out if you choose.....don't let the door hit you since you are nothing but obstructionists!
The repugnants are ALL leaning against Hagel right now... He's the only thing holding them up!!!
I'm not completely familiar with the new decorum and manners on the hill.... If they walk out, do they need to be invited back, or can they just pick and choose when it's time to do their jobs?
If they'd claim to have a tummy-ache from eating one of their own we'd understand and allow the use of sick time...
He still has his moments.
Unfortunately, "the maverick" moments have become less and less, and the angry, bitter, and forgetful McCain moments have become the norm.
I think they're called senior moments.
Not to worry. Mr Graham seems more than able and willing to carry on in his fine tradition.
A walk out, man these republicans sure is pissed off. I wonder why, oh yeah that guy name Obama was just Re-Elected. Sore Losers!!!
Shades of the old McCain are showing through - the McCain I respected once. He's fighting someone he disagrees with without bringing down the system to do it.
I wish he'd show up like this more often.
When did Republican lawmakers become such babies? The crying. Holding their breath until they get their way. Stamping their little feet. Now it's screw you guys, I going home.
Oh yeah, November 2008.
Good call Sen McCain.
It's none of your business in what goes on between a woman and her doctor. Period!
That is why the party of stupid will lose another election for President in 2016!
Job1, whatever but if people would be a little more responsible abortion wouldn't be an issue, at least at todays levels, would it?
Geez that McConnell is a dog.
The Rep/T.P. are spending far too much time and their wages on this Hegel distortion. There should be a way to stop this attempt to disable a government nomination. The President may have been trying to show by-partisanship in choosing a Republican nominee,but the party of dis function will continue to attempt to disrupt and to try to stop our elected officials to form and run our government,no matter from which party of Congress from which they are chosen.
The only McNasty I see on here Red is you. You are really good at the nasty name calling.
ozzieyo1.
At any level and in any opinion, abortion doesn't have a damn thing to do with Hagel or the Defense Dept.
If i walk out of my job for a day I don't get paid for that day... can we get the repugnicans to do the same. i am tired of paying these obstructionist, myopic, xenophobic, religious zealots for preventing our government from functioning properly because they act like children who are not getting their way.
GOP = bunch of crying babies
I'll give McCain a pat on the back for his latest and more sensible response to the threatened filibuster, blocking of Hagel's nomination and the "walk out" threat. Maybe McCain watched himself on tape after the Hagel hearing and realized how hateful, nasty and ugly he looked and behaved toward his friend, Chuck Hagel.
Republicans don't need President Obama to "annihilate" their party, they're doing it all by themselves. 5-year olds behave better than these elected Senators.
Hey Snookie,
You gonna give us the source for your accusation against Hagel on the previous thread?
Why is it everytime someone calls you on your bull@!$%# you scurry off like a cockroach on crack?
Here we go, changing the subject. This report says nothing about abortion, it's about the useless McCain, McConnell, and Graham!!! The three, +, cannibals who are about to eat one of their own just to keep the "OEO" going, you know, from 2009-2012 it was "Obstruct Everything Obama," now it's "Oppose Everything Obama."
You guys just can't admit your loss.
I don't think Graham is playing with a full deck, the only thing Lindsey has is his jokers on the hill !!!
The biggest thing they have against Hagel is his opposition to the warmongering defense machine that he wants to clean up. stop some of the waste from things like $400 hammers and toilet seats.
Well, if the Republicans were to walk out it would remove some of the stink in congress and might possible improve their approval ratings. Temporary that is until they came back.
Honestly though I have never seen such a bunch of crybabies in my life. They piss and moan every time Obama proposes something even if it's something they want. Only in this congress has ever a man filibustered his own bill. Really a disgrace of the position.
No moshuluu calling seaskip out for saying the Repbubs are the part of irresponsible fools when in fact the dems are far more irresponsible and don't like consequences that behavior entails.
@Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Why is it everytime someone calls you out on your bull@!$# you turn to name calling and derogatory terms?
Damn, for somebody who is part of the "responsible" and "respect everybody" party you sure don't act like it.
It's you guys disrupting government with your anti-everything-Obama charge. A blind man can see what you guys are worth. My post specifically noted you guys have been against President Obama since day one, since January 20, 2009 when 13 of you didn't attend his inauguration, instead they were in a hotel room planning on obstructing everything this President tried, at the behest of McConnell who said, he would do everything in his power, along with EVERY republican to make sure he is a one term President. That didn't work, so now you guys are on plan B, or, didn't Boenher take that plan off the table....LOL Now you'll are free-lancing, but destroy Obama is still your agenda!!!
Okay guys. Want to see a real hero? Check out ObamaDiary and see today's Medal of Honor winner and his adorable son (who stole the show!).
They are going to walk out? You'd think Sean Penn was nominated. Hagel's a Republican (or was). They don't even bother to offer an explanantion any more...probably because they can't think of a good one. Only that he's Obama's pick and he once complained about the power of the Isreali lobby in Washington.
The evil behind the Tea Party (Kochs, Norquist, Ralph Reed, etc.) is still active obviously...
The EPA is here to protect us from your Georgia Pacific environmental destruction Kochs.
The rich that support your tax pledge should pay more than they are paying Norquist. Even the Capital Gains hike to 20% still isn't as much as the poor working suckers are paying on earned income.
And if there is a hell Reed, you will almost certainly be visiting there some day, for hiding behind the Christian faith as you do underhand deals for votes (Abramoff, Norquist, etc.)
Want to see who is Not My Hero, check out the NY Times article on Democratic Senator from New Jersey Bob Menedez.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/the-menendez-mess-continued/?ref=politics
When they walk out, can't the ones inside just lock the door? Permanently?
LiberalsAre - try to stay on topic - this is a tread about Hagel, not Menendez or that Republcian who had to resign because of his numerous affairs while in office. Now, please, stay on topic!
Can anyone figure out John McCain? As an AZ resident, I am embarrassed by that man's unwavering dishonesty on the issues, and next day turnabout on morals. He WILL NOT be re-elected IF he runs. I'm guessing this is his last gasp, and he's ruining it...
Walking out does a lot of good...
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/28/news/la-pn-democrats-walk-out-to-protest-house-contempt-vote-against-holder-20120628
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-09/politics/wisconsin.budget_1_public-workers-bargaining-democratic-walkout?_s=PM:POLITICS
Hi Charlie, Reading through the posts above and yours also...I have to ask, "what happened to my Republican party?" The current crop, masquerading as "Republicans" are nothing like the Republicans I grew up with. I have to say, there are no "Republican" values from the bunch. The pendulum will swing back again, but I think it's time to "clean House" so to speak and vote all of the Obstructionist out of office. (that includes a few Blue Dog Democrats as well)
The Democrats are trying to tell people how to act. That's rich. Twits and dim wits all.
McCain is a good man period.
Better then any Dem you want to put up.
rukidding47. McCain don't know when to quit and go home. He is a war hero who's time has come and gone. Now all we see is a empty man that looks like a bad looser and can't seem to let it go. He needs to retire, while he still has some dignity. He went after Heagel, said his peace and let it go. I will bet that McCain will vote for Heagel in the end.
LOL Really...
A good while back I remember reading an article on how Dick Cheney managed 5 draft deferrals, never served one day in the Military, and has nothing but an incestuous love of war and sending American boys and girls to war.
In November 1962, at the age of 21, Cheney was convicted of driving while intoxicated (DWI). He was arrested for DWI again the following year.
When Cheney became eligible for the draft, during the Vietnam War, he applied for and received five draft deferments. In 1989, The Washington Post writer George C. Wilson interviewed Cheney as the next Secretary of Defense; when asked about his deferments, Cheney reportedly said, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service"
When he became eligible for the draft, he applied for four deferments in sequence. He applied for his fifth exemption on January 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant. He was granted 3-A status, the "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents.
At 20 I was married with a daughter, and was drafted.
Isn't that something, and I'd bet Cheney is one of your hero's, are you a veteran?
Hagel should not be the guy who sweeps the Secretary of Defense's office bathroom, but to walkout is counter-productive. Stand in their and say why Hagel is such an inept clown and then vote him down. Then filibuster till the cows come home. But don't walk out. Make the case.
McCain merely trying to improve his somewhat tarnished image. His refusal to oppose the Hagel nomination doesn't necessarily mean he approves.
That's why John McCain is staying behind; someone has to unlock the door so they can get back in.
If the Democrats push to have the vote before the committee received all the information it asked for, then Republicans have no choice but to filibuster!
If the Democrats are willing to turn this process into a sham, then Republicans have to fight to defend the constitution and the right of the American people to have elected officials who are still held to account! So filibuster becomes the only real option here.
Those are your options senators: Filibuster or dereliction of duty!
My thoughts exactly.
Take note, republicans; McCain shows you how to disagree and fight without reducing yourself to a five year old.
"McCain is a good man period."
McCain WAS a good man. Today he's a nasty,bitter, vile old man.
Hagel omitted two speeches on the Senate disclosure form. You can be sure the transcripts of those two speeches will be made public, and what they contain could prove to be trouble for Hagel. If nothing else, the omissions demonstrate a lack of honesty by Hagel, but when has that ever proven to be detrimental to a politician. Obama heads one of the least transparent administrations of all time, why should his choice for Secretary of Defense be any different?
my thoughts on a walk out would be this..these are elected people that are suppose to serve this nation as a whole....showing the disreguard they all have , republicans , for the office of president is something I can not understand if they are concerned at all with the abilities of this nation and its moving forward as the best in the world in every respect. So far the republicans have been against everything Obama has tried to put forth , even when it was a republicans idea. All politicans are elected to do a job..if none are capable then they need to get out of the way and allow those who actually care about this country instead of the wealthy few who hand all politicans tons of money to get what they want ...with the cost passed to the middle class. IF any think this is false then you need to check out just how much money comes from special interest groups that are founded by the wealthy....and lets not forget that all politicans are among the wealthy and are surely looking out for their own.
Last time I checked, Mitch McConnell was the Minority Leader. Doesn't anybody hire proofreaders anymore?
McCain is still angry that his warmonger buddy Dubya beat him in a bid for the job...he has grown delusional and more angry and IF he was in power this country would be completely bankrupt with military spending and waist deep in several more 'endless wars'.....
Man oh man I wish the D's could just hold a vote to confirm Hagel in the absence of the Republican cry babies. If the GOP wants to remove itself from the Democratic Process, why should the rest of us be beholden to their childish stampede?
It won't happen, but a man can dream, can't he?
You know, when I walk out and refuse to do my job, it's called insubordination, and I'm promptly fired for it.
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Nice post Feisty, is that what you think of the GOP !!!
They do render me speechless at times... lol
wouldn't that be a wonderful day when red was speechless? no vitriol, childish name calling, insults -- we can hope!!
Anyone else notice that Graham is indeed a Cracker?...
chick binder,
What is a Cracker?
Whip Cracker, pre 1860
TO: thetotas who wrote:
A thin crisp wafer or biscuit, usually made of unsweetened dough.
We send senators to Washington to stand up for what we, or at least they, believe in, but too many insist on acting like children when they don't get their way.
American Girl, nice to see you actually own a dictionary. But I'm betting you don't own a high-shcool diploma, if your posts are any indication.
post #2 best post ever for feisty hope we see more
What does Carl Levin have on John McCain that he gets treated with respect when everyone else the Senator encounters is treated rudely?
All the Republican party cares about is Israel, 1% and the NRA, this is the ticket to fail !!!
maybe levin treats mccain with respect, something not generally observed on this site.
will the lefties here now attack levin for showing mccain some respect??
After McCain picked Sarah Palin in 2008 for the VP slot, he lost all respect.
...and she was picked over Willard!.....That's what's really scary. Palin is better than Willard! We had no idea how perilous the times were!
Palin is a has-been, never was. Fox fired her, her reality shows have flopped and by 2016 she will be more forgotten than Dan Quayle.
McCain had too much faith in his staff, who basically made the Palin pick for him. His error was trusting them.
Had he been left to his own devices, here on Newsvine we'd be discussing President McCain and wondering if VP Colin Powell will be running in 2016.
The staff out of the public eye can make or break a candidate. Consider how strong Palin's staff turned out to be: not only did they get her name on the ticket, but they turned their laughable loser of a candidate into a money machine for awhile.
Yeah, but a very rich forgotten one.
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You might want to put down the bottle Fisty.
...And you might want to stop referring to a woman by that (oh so clever) name, Lee Harvey.
Couldn't tell by her posts chick
BIIGGG FEASTY simply tries to "anchor" her spot by posting a period .... then coming back to fill in the details. Of course, her final result is usually about as meaningful as her "period", NO VALUE at all !!!!!! Of course, all her libtard followers will vote her up ... much as they vote up Obama's lack of performance ! LOL !!
McCain is following his conscience. Liberals have no conscience so they absolutely cannot stand him and simply fall apart at his every statement. Then they bow at the altar of Obama ... who STILL doesn't know what he is doing !
Expect the polar ice caps to melt a little faster after Obama delivers his usual abundance of hot air !
Senator Mccain ,
Didn't You think by picking Sarah Palin as VP,that reflects on your mental health and all these repugs applauses your choice ,when she actually cost YOUR ELECTION OUT.
Answer the American, YES OR NO ---NO OR YES?
NO mumbling..PERIOD.
jim (#4.4) liberals have both conscience and intelligence to go with it. Your post is the usual right wing lack of information or intelligent argument.
No one is bowing at the altar of Obama. Why don't you try and come up with some actual facts and post something worth the time to type?
why is the left so intolerant of opposing views? mccain challenged hagel to answer questions which hagel refused to do. mccain will now respect the history of the senate's advise and consent (something the democrats refused to do for eisenhower and bush senior) and simply vote against hagel's nomination.
yet he is again ravaged by the liv here -- so when he says he will not support a filibuster the angry red keeps going at him.
one can only conclude that there is no satisfying the left until total capitulation of the loyal opposition and our nation becoming an oligarchy.
Wrong billybob...there's no satisfying the right. If graham and McCain were not satisfied with the answers they got, they should have asked more questions. All either wanted was to try to score political points. I don't remember either asking really pertinent questions about any of todays problems that would face a SoD. Especially McCain. Hope they do walk out. That will show not only the US but the entire world just how immature and irrelevant the GOP is getting. The right is always accusing the left of "whinning", but who is doing it now? The GOP are the cry babies. Thier actions speak for themselves.
little -- given there is a time limit on questioning one cannot ask all of the questions in a list. mccain has said he would not walk out -- can you accept that or do you want to keep denigrating him?
It was one of McCain's more lucid moments of late, still, I'm greatly relieved that he never occupied the White House.
TO: billybob-6210632 who wrote:
Because Republicans' "opposing views" led us into the 2nd Great Depression, us getting hit by terrorists on 9/11, being lied into war, and now to the GOP stalling our economic recovery.
The GOP causing all that trouble and never seeming to have learned anything from their failures and instead shouting from their Republican rooftops to continue to do the same things all over again that failed so miserably the first time tends to make people tired and piss people off.
The left is not intolerant of opposing views, it actually contains opposing views within it's own side. What it should not tolerate are views that are not rational and based on lies or knowing misrepresentation of the facts. In other words, the dominant right wing views these days. When the right gets back to fact based argument their views will get a proper hearing.
Did you seriously post "why is the left so intolerant of opposing views?"?
Let me paraphrase a few former Republican posts on NewsVine.
"All Libtards are scum".
"If we got rid of all the liberals we'd be better off".
"All Liberals do is sit around waiting for their government check to come"
And on and on and on.
TO: Jon-1321288 who wrote:
Bravo. Very well said!
@ American Girl
Yes they did. They went along with "Peanut" Carters view of getting mortgages for people who couldn't afford them. On top of that they went along with "Slick" Willie and his money machine, in letting banks and investors sell and trade toxic mortgages that they were encouraged to do by the Democrips. Read how Brooksely Born tried to warn Clinton, to no avail. I guess they were blinded by his talent to soil intern dresses
"The left is not intolerant of opposing view"
Conservatives have a real knack. It seems every time they try to describe the left, they end up describing themselves.
TO: ZappasUtopia who wrote:
We had a thriving economy under Democrat President Bill Clinton.
The 2nd Great Depression happened under the Republican Bush Administration, and there's not a "man" nor a "Leader" among them that will stand up and take responsibility for 8 years worth of bad decisions. Bush crashed the entire United States Economy just as he was walking out the door of the White House.
Things started going "south" when Bush let his oil buddies bankrupt the American People through high gas prices at a time when Bush was pumping millions of gallons of Iraqi oil everyday. As much as that war cost the American People we should have been getting our gas for free.
TO: Charlie-1915998 who wrote:
So so true!
we're not intolerant of opposing views. We're intolerant of childish antics designed to gum up the wheels of Democracy rather than simply voting NO, thereby putting your views on the record and having to explain them to the electorate (you know, like adults would do...).
McCain is a walking turd. Lost all respect for the crusty low-life. Go back to your cage in Hanoi, McCain.
Bitter old man
Like him or not, he served during the Johnson Democratic War in Vietnam. You should show more respect for those who served.
2-Lane Gypsy -
While I strongly disagree with Senator McCain's politics and he may very well be a bitter old man, the rest of your comment was very offensive and completely uncalled for.
And yes, I find roger.rabbit's avatar offensive, too. That doesn't mean we have to sink to his level.
JoAnne in PA, Great post.
joanne in pa,
What is so offensive about addressing the Vietnam conflict as the Johnson Democratic War? Wasn't Johnson the President that escalated the conflict?
As for the avatar, it is appropriate for someone who thinks of himself as a dictator. A few of you libs have avatars that are more offensive than mine. And you comments are rather bitter too. Civility doesn't find favor with libbies, especially when a critism of Obama is called for.
You may disagree with him, as I do, but your comments are nothing short of vile and offensive.
Want to compare your service record (what service record?) to John McCain?
JoAnne, well said. I don't have much respect left for Senator McCain but LaneGypsy's remark was offensive.
roger.rabbit, try looking up the date of when we actually first became involved in Vietnam? BTW, the only ones who think President Obama is a dictator are those like you on the right; just like it was always the right-wing nuts who call him a messiah and the birthers. Enjoy your stay down the rabbit hole, roger.
Speaking of vile and offensive .... Jody quickly jumps in with "right wing nuts" !!! LOL !!!
You liberals are a wealth of hypocrisy .... you simply cannot STAND it when someone throws the crap back at you .... but you sure can pour it out ad nauseam !!!!!!!!!!!!
Jody - well said. As usual, the little righties are always the ones who refer to President Obama as the messiah - they clearly hold him in high regard.
The birthers - nut cases - and they still love to show it!
I respect John McCain for his military service and supported him for president in 2000 -- even sent him money and knocked on doors for his campaign. But since then he has evolved into a nasty, bitter and vile old man who cannot let go of the fact that he lost the 2008 election. I hope this is due to his age. The best thing he could do for himself and the nation is resign from the Senate.
roger rabbit.... thinks that obama.... styles himself a dictator.... THAT has got to be the funniest thing i have ever heard.
nominated more republicans to offices of power than any democrat in history, let congress create the affordable health care act, and added nothing to it. refused to use executive orders to ban assault weapons and said congress must act upon it...
true dictator, roger. but only in your FOX News world.
Roger, Kennedy was going to pull out of Nam and Johnson was not going to be the VP in his 2nd term because he was headed for prison. So they killed Kennedy and made a deal with LBJ to do some sweeping under the rug and escalate Nam. Eisenhower said it first "beware the military-industrial complex". Money talks, politicians walk.
The first Americans sent to Vietnam (then known as French Indo China) were sent by republican Dwight Eisenhower. That is how it began.
As for escalation, there's plenty of blame to go around to each of the four president's that followed, Johnson certainly getting his share.
To selectively pick Johnson out of the list is similar to blaming 911 on one of the hijackers on one of the planes.
The dems knew that hillary could not win so they got a black man in to
gain the votes of all those who HAD NEVER EVER VOTED BEFORE with the help of
acorn and george soros who financed (1.5 billion dolars) to gain the over the
top vote. In 2008 there were over 8 million new voters and most were only
voting because of color.IF OBAMA HAD OF BEEN A YOUNG WHITE SENATOR HE NEVER
WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO START WITH HE HAD NO CREDENTIALS.
billybob,
The ranting about this issue is only the msnbc surrogates wanting to demean the GOP during this process. Chuckie, refusing to answer questions is fine for the left-leaning Obamanites, but have a Republican do similar, and the left-leaning libs would have their panties in a bunch.
All heil Bond, Barry Bond, license to kill.
Roger and Billy Bob, quit your whining. Your pathetic leader, Lindsey Graham, whining on TV is bad enough.
msnbc surrogates wanting to demean the GOP during this process
The GOP doesn't need our help. They demean themselves quite nicely, and for All of America to see.....daily. Guys like you, rabbit, and billy bob know the GOP sucks and it embarrasses and humiliates those that are members of that party to know that the party is on the brink of extinction in its current state. Tick tock.
oh chickie b, bite me!
Lindsey is not whining, only seeking the truth.Can't understand why you don't want the issue to be fully addressed.
Where was Barry during the event? He doesn't appear to be concerned.
Roger Rabbit, no thanks to your offer. Lindsey is seeking the truth??? Oh really??? So if The Prez made a phone call to Libya or not warrants holding up a nomination for someone not involved? If Lindsey Graham's grandstanding isn't insulting your intelligence, then there is little hope for you. Then again, I knoew that already by reading your posts and looking at your avatar. Enjoy O'Reilly tonight.
Chuckie, huh? Kind of interesting. You have a problem with "demeaning the GOP." Does that include Republican ex-Senator Chuck Hagel?
Roger.Rabbit
Time to hop back into your hole! Dear Lindsey is acting like the conservative fool due to the fact that he must appease the conservative and evangelical nuts in South Carolina in the hopes of preserving his seat in the Senate. He is having to be brave in their eyes so they do not find some wing nut Tea bagger to run against him in the primary. His idiotic actions are only for self preservation! Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire is in the same boat.
It's tough to be a Republican today! But then they put themselves in this boat didn't they. Time to end the extreme party platform of appeasing the extreme right with their stands on social issues and not dealing with the problems of the majority of Americans today!
Love Billy Bobs avatar of No Whining, who then proceeds to whine incessantly!
roger.grabbit said...
"oh chickie b, bite me!
Lindsey is not whining, only seeking the truth.Can't understand why you don't want the issue to be fully addressed.
Where was Barry during the event? He doesn't appear to be concerned."
If you're referring to President Obama in your Apalachian slang, he was taking a dump, which was immediately adopted by the republicans as leadership material and promoted as a prospect for future candidacy...
Congratulations on your new boss!!
fla -- no whining, just pointing out some opposing ideas.
have a nice day.
Only the libs know truth - right. Hagel served with the 2/47 9th ID, and served well. It's his past statements that haunt him.
And Alaska Girl, you do an excellent job of demeaning liberals in your incoherent posts attacking the GOP. You should search the truth, not talk up the progressive lies.
And you state that Lindsey should come out of the closet? Can you prove you have knowledge of his sexual practices, or is this just another ignorant liberal lie?
Put up or shut up!
Ah...another cry baby sore loser.
MikeO76, not a sore loser, and neither a cry baby. I want to know how Alaska Girl knows and can make the statement that he needs to come out of the closet.
Aren't Progressives supposed to be sensative to the needs of gays? Wouldn't her statement be offensive to the Gay comunity?
Just crawl back into you liberal world and things will be fine for you.
Who was the President supposed to call in Libya? Entire country in turmoil and the President was supposed to call a fixer--have I missed something here?
I watched the confirmation hearing and all I saw was McCain and Graham badgering Hagel and not letting him answer, Israel lobbyists, you betcha wield the campaign cash cudgel.
McCain pretty vindictive and really holds grudges, Hagel disagrees on the"surge" and McCain attempts to exact some sort of revenge?
Need an up or down vote, and watch, the Graham clique including Missy Kelly will vote no--watch the lock-step elephants, they will do what they always do--obstruct.
It was more the fact Obama purposely tried to down play the organization terrorists had in this obviously planned attack. He wanted to wait long enough so that it wouldn't be an issue in the election, and it worked. But it does provide an example of Obama's lack of Leadership, and his self serving attitude.
I am sick of both parties acting like big babies, get rid of them both and get some independent thinkers in office.
Wyo2 - no, it doesn show a lack of leadership at all. It shows he is smart enough to wait until the investigation is over before announcing the findings.
What's so offensive? Even my gay friends say he's gay, and who would know better than a fellow gay man? Come on, dude. Oh, BTW: Inquiring minds want to know. Who is roger rabbit a re-reg of this week?
"Lindsey is not whining,"
BS. He's the grand champion of whiners. I remember Graham when he was one of the house managers during the impeachment trial. He was a sniveling whiner back then and he's gotten worse since. He's a poster child for what's wrong with the 21st century Republican Party.
I re-reged because I didn't like using my first name. I've got nothing to hide, and told Feisty the same. Arf she said
So, I was asking roger rabbit if he was a re-reg and you, Zappas, answered. So, are you both, and got confused?
Consider the Obama-related coincidences:
Obama just happened to know 60s far-left radical
revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas
Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist
mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the
communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who just
happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie
Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor,
and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which just happened
to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of
dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to
properly maintain the housing—which eventually just happened to require
demolition.
Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of
Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Obama),
who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former
fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where
Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.
Angry? McCAin's the bitter loser who has anger issues. Hes just got his panties in a wad because he failed to beat confessions out of Hillary or Hagel.
Fu%^ John McCAin. He should have stayed in the Hanoi Hilton,
Disagree and disapprove of the man if you wish but that statement is unconscionable.
@Gypsy: I have to agree with Mark. Agree or disagree with his politics YOU are out of line. You lower yourself with comments like that.
Both the Senator and the President deserve respect for their service and position whether you agree with their politics or not!
Berating either of man with childish names or loathsome comments is reprehensible.
Prediction:
John McCain will be in his resident chair Sunday on Meet the Press. And David Gregory will ask McCain if he had a nice Valentine's Day.
Can't believe congress is going on break already.
It does seem he spends more time on talk shows than at work. No doubt he'll have a job at Faux when he leaves office.
Maybe he shoulld hire a spokesman like our president has. You know, someone to come out and feed news. lol
I don't see that as likely.They'd have a tough time keeping McCain on Murdock's script and to stray from their rigid line of talking points is unacceptable.
On the other hand, I could be giving McCain too much credit. Time will tell.
ZappaU
"Maybe he shoulld hire a spokesman like our president has."
Yeah... Maybe he "shoulld".
Lions and tigers and bears, OH MY!!.
Yep. BO is the first and only prez to ever do that. Such evil.
The President has the right to choose his cabinet and unless something is dramatically wrong with the choice there should be no question of conformation. We must remember that the Secretary of Defense reports to the President and he has final say on decision making. Interesting that republicans in the senate question a fellow republican
PS Lindsay Graham seems to care more about re election than doing the right thing. He is afraid of a primary so he is moving to the right on all issues. Sure would be nice to actually stand up for what you believe rather than pander to the extremes of your party.
Sheesh! The guy (Lindsey G.) won't even come out of the closet, so don't expect him to actually stand up for anything. He knows if he were to "out" himself, the southerners would throw his ass out in a New York minute.
And how do you know it ISN'T what he truly believes? Because it isn't what you want him to believe or think he should believe? Typical lib/liv/progressive.
Lindsey Graham is busy serving Israel, which is obvious from his questions, which either focus on Israel or Iran. His Israel/AIPAC constituents want a war with Iran and don't believe Hagel gives them their best chance.
McCain, also an Israeli shill, must have somehow come to his senses or else has an ulterior motive.
No more wars for Israel.
Talk to the hand!
You should NEVER run for congress if you believe that Graham is playing the hard ass because it's what he truly believes! You would never get elected. He's playing to the far right of his party because he's scared of being placed against some extreme right tea bagger in the primary! For him it's survival.
Kind of gives you a picture of the hard times the Republican party is having due to their extreme party platform. They brought this on themselves! It's so funny that with the trouncing they got in the last election that they still have some party nuts that are still playing the "stupid" game!
Talk to the Hand-puppet said...
"And how do you know it ISN'T what he truly believes? Because it isn't what you want him to believe or think he should believe? Typical lib/liv/progressive."
Well, the first major clue that AK girl is right on the money is you coming out against it... Tell Lindsey to come out too willya?
Testa - I completely agree with you about the president having the right to choose his cabinet. Do you apply this same principle when the other party is in power? I sure hope you do.
I'm just curious. Do you recall this type of circus when President Bush was putting his cabinet together?
You just answered your own question.
Only one came close and republicans joined democrats in the circus. That was when the little bush nominated that legal aid level familiy friend woman to the SCOTUS. Both sides of the aisle got a laugh out of that one.
At least McCain and Hagel are both war heroes from the same war. The rest of these boys just talk tough. Of course they are talking tough with someone else's life. It doesn't make Hagel competent to be Secretary of Defense but it does entitle him to some respect and courtesy from the boys that avoided it. I don't care if they walk out. I think we would better off if everyone on both sides of the isle walked out and didn't come back. At least we would save some money until we got some new ones.
What makes Hagel a hero. He got 2 purple hearts because he didn't keep his ass down. Almost everyone got an ARCOM for service in Viet-Nam and the Viet-Namese Cross of Gallantry was awarded to everyone. If he was such a hero where is his Medal of Honor, Silver Star or at least a Bronze Starw/V.
wyominggrandfather - since the Medal of Honor is rarely give out - you can count the number of recipients since the Civil War - 3476 so receiving one is very rare. McCain doesn't have one. Purple hearts are a sign someone has been wounded and those who served with Hagel have stated he was a hero. McCain received the Navy Commendation Medal and the Broze Star - strictly for the mission he flew in VietNam - not for any other reason.
Get a life - your post is idiotic and reeks of jealousy!
wyominggrandfather, I'd love to see you stand in front of any of us that served in the POS war and make that ignorant statement. But you wouldn't, you're just another keyboard coward.
McCain got shot down because be disobeyed an order to abort attack. Always a wanna hero looking for press clippings. Hell he crashed 3 planes before he got his self shot down. I guess Admirals sons didn't grounded like normal pilots after a crash. Three planes destroyed was more than enough to get your wings clipped, not John, daddy came to the rescue.
"At least McCain and Hagel are both war heroes from the same war. The rest of these boys just talk tough"
If Dick Cheney is against Chuck Hagel than i fully support his nomination. Enough said!
Just simply hinting at a walk out is such a childish thing to threaten. It does nothing for the the Republican image. Something needing significant work...
Like little children who aren't getting their way they will just walk out. Well, dammit, call a vote up or down. He is either confirmed or not and get on with it. This showboating, posturing and general silliness has got to stop. They are making a mockery out of our system and in front of the whole world. Shame, shame on them.
Or, they could stay and actually do what we pay them for.
"In two terms in the Senate, Chuck has earned the respect of his colleagues and risen to national prominence as a clear voice on foreign policy and national security." - Senator Mitch McConnell, 10/2/2008
...but now you will try whatever you can to block his nomination?
and I think the same of the right - they are blind, oppositional, entrenched in the past, hypocritical (government too big but every red state has some legislation that is getting into a woman's face) hypocritical (every red state wants government aid when they get into trouble) hypocritical (immigration is fine when they lost votes) etc etc etc. Turnabout turncoats and I wouldn't trust any one of them. They spout the Bible and the Constitution to suit their own means, but if they THOUGHT about it - they would be denying Jesus a mean and a place to lay his head - calling him a welfare bum! Hypocritical!!
Mitch was for Hagel before he was gainst him...
Actually, he was for him well before a black man took the WH.
The GOP is working on a permanent Dem majority.
Just because Hagel doesn't whitewash Iraq to try and cover for W and the idiots that followed him over the cliff? He should get a medal.
But if you had a permanent Democratic majority, why you would have NO ONE LEFT TO BLAME !!!!
Geez, then your total incompetence would be exposed .... AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!
what children. they need to be stripped of all perks including health care and retirement
Another GOP hissy-fit? When will the GOP actually get some adult leadershiP?
Would be rather funny to suddenly have all the Pentagon funding for SC, KY and OK cut as part of the sequester.
Nasty Mccain would like to leave DC with someone that likes him.Right now the best he can do is the Clown from South Carolina. He is referred to by every nasty term that their ever has come up with. His actions are so Idiotic no one can remember his legitimate name. It sounds like some type of Cracker.
What is a Cracker?"
A thin crisp wafer or biscuit, usually made of unsweetened dough.
A "cracker" is a liberal, RACIST term for those who are called Caucasian ! Try to spin it any way you want ... it is racism from the left !
Jim you are a peckerwood.
Geez, jimmy, racist much? He was referring to Graham (Cracker), as in a reference to Lindsey Graham. Try reading the comment before you let your insanity override your stupidity. Oh, and you seem to have such a fondness for the exclamation point these days. I just visualize you all eyes bulging and pounding on the key board with drool dripping down the sides of your mouth. You really need to chill, dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
TO: jim-1455434 who wrote:
But why is it that I hear that definition coming from you, and not from the liberals?
I thought a "Cracker" was someone from Georgia. Similar to calling someone from Nebraska a "Cornhusker". In fact, it's my understanding they come up with those nicknames on their own.
No?
Dang, who slipped McGrumpy a "civility pill" in his morning coffee? And, where were they for the last 5 years?!
But, nuts, a walkout from the committee vote? How characteristically juvenile!
Didn't the Dems walk out in Wisconsin when the vote was not going their way ? Did they set a precedent ??
Jim is just another typical clueless Repub moron. Comparing apples to bombs, eh? Do you even have the slightest clue about what the hell you're trying to say??? Of course not.............
hateful bitter and ignorant. they still do not get it. oh wait, this must be the new republican party finishing the sentence
allens - what you say at the beginning sounds like most every lefty speaking of opposing views on this board. Is that the new lefty way - hateful, bitter and ignorant? Nope, it has always been their way.
TO: Bookem' Danno who wrote:
Why should we be angry, we won.
I sure will be glad when Republicans stop getting everything backazzwards.
Geez people, Republicans know they're the inventors of "hate speech" and talking points, or have they've already forgotten that too.
hateful bitter and ignorant.
You just very aptly described jim-numbers! HA!
Is it just me or is this very "I'm going to take my ball and go home" of them? Walking out just seems so ridiculously childish and extreme. They're not going to win their vote so they're going to leave? Apparently our democracy only works as long as the votes go their way?
It's just so bizarre and third world.
you look at the perks, salary and benefits these people make for doing what is best for our country. they should be thrown out of office, not just voted out. they are sickening to watch