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Charlie Neibergall / AP file
U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., speaks at a rally by home-school advocates in March 2011 at the Statehouse in Des Moines, Iowa.
Eight months after Michele Bachmann's 2012 presidential bid ground to a halt in Iowa, her campaign manager there signed a sworn affidavit, pointing his finger at another top staffer in a still-simmering dispute over the misuse of a contact list of home-school family names.
The Sept. 4 affidavit – first reported by the Iowa Republican and obtained Friday by NBC News – was written by Bachmann's Iowa adviser Eric Woolson, and accuses former State Sen. Kent Sorenson of stealing the list from another Bachmann staffer. Sorenson was the campaign’s state chairman at the time.
"We took it," Woolson says Sorenson told him.
The list was the at the center of a flap late in Bachmann's presidential run, when a powerful Iowa home-school network called “NICHE” complained that its collection of contacts for thousands of home-school families had been mined by the campaign and used to expand its fundraising.
At the time, the campaign called the emails a "mistake." The campaign agreed to pay NICHE, a 501c3 nonprofit, several thousand dollars in order to keep the group compliant with federal elections law.
But in his affidavit, Woolson says he approached Sorenson on the same day the fundraising emails were sent, and was told the list had been stolen.
"Kent smiled at me and said, 'Do you want to know how it happened?'" Woolson writes, adding:
I said, "No," and tried to back out of his office.
Kent said, "We took it." Kent said they weren't getting anything from Barb (Heki), so when she stepped out of the office they took it.
Kent said, "We stood watch."
Woolson appears to corroborate the account of the alleged victim, Barb Heki, who last summer filed a lawsuit against Bachmann and other high-ranking staff, including Sorenson and Woolson.
Heki, who was the campaign's Homeschool Coalitions Director and a NICHE member, says she was unjustly blamed for leaking the list and that she and her husband later lost their seats on the group's board. Heki alleged senior staff was aware of what Sorenson had done but allowed her reputation to suffer.
Sorenson has long denied taking the list, saying he helped negotiate the solution with NICHE.
"Nothing new here," he said over text message Friday. "Same story being recycled."
Sorenson later bolted Bachmann's campaign for the Ron Paul team – a high-profile defection that helped cripple her campaign days before the caucuses.
Lawyers for the Bachmann campaign have also disputed Heki's claims.
A court filing this summer called the case a “broad brush, shotgun approach” that “fails to inform Michele Bachmann… and the other named defendants (other than perhaps Kent Sorenson) what they did wrong.”
A Polk County Judge on Jan. 30 denied the defendants' motion to dismiss the suit.
In his affidavit, Woolson says Heki ultimately learned details of the alleged theft from Bachmann herself, during a staff party the day after Bachmann quit the presidential race.
"Barb approached me and said Michele Bachmann told her Kent Sorenson had taken the NICHE list and asked me if it was true," Woolson says. "I nodded yes."
Bachmann's campaign lawyer and congressional office did not immediately respond to a request for a comment.
Woolson's name was dropped from Heki's lawsuit sometime after he signed the affidavit. He declined to comment for this story.
Bachmann dropped out of the presidential race one day after finishing last among the candidates competing in the Jan. 3, 2012, caucuses.
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In a civilized society, Michelle Bachmann would be in treatment for psychosis and delusional thinking.
Thank God for her she lives in the US of A. ;)
Just think of the tax dollars that could be saved if all children were home-schooled.
/Sarcasm
Oh well, let the GOP cannibalism begin.
And this is news now from a failed campaign? I would think that MSNBC would want to cover the debt, unemployment, Obama's complete failure to lead in the face of the Benghazi attack and any of the thousands of other more critical issues facing this country.
Oh wait, all of that would make their God - the Big 0 look bad - never mind, go back to non-starters.
My bad! I said, " let the GOP cannibalism begin."
I should have said, " let the GOP cannibalism continue."
Hey REB, Bachmann is a standing US Representative in the House, and allegedly she was informed by her staffers that they illegally obtained private information and she still used it. You don't think government corruption is a real story? Or just that *Republican* government corruption isn't a real story...
Any old story to achieve a diversion eh first read?
Bachmann is a Hog, I don't have much more to say about her !!!
So how is this any different from the 'lists' that Obama's campaign assembled?
Oh yes, I almost forgot - She's a Republican, and Obama's a Democrat. That explains everything.
my favorite corn dog eatin' pol under fire? I'm shocked!!! Can you say bat sh!t????
Trynka-1213219
You don't think that Obama's dereliction of his duty as the sitting president is just a tad more significant??
And what about the Con-man and Chief?
Does Bachmann still believe the shot heard around the world was fired in New Hampshire ???
The bright beacon of Stupidity is shining in the white house and the Dems can't see it.
More deflection to other areas.
Nope, just the normal way of doing business there. In their own words "if ya' ain't cheatin', ya' ain't winnin'!"
Oh, knock it off Seaskip. Don't you know she is on the House Intelligence Committee? Talk about an oxymoron choice!
Anyone familiar with Kent Sorensons criminal background would not be surprised by the allegations, there's really no logical reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Since I be votin' for Obama, my taxes have gone up, my employer stopped offering health insurance my guns were taken away. And da gas be above 3 dollars for 4 years.
Damn you George Bush
( normal first read article mentality)
Bless your hearts. Its so cool to watch you defend old bat $hit crazy bachmann. You all deserve each other. Wait that just says your just bat $hit crazy as she is.
Underemployed- in a civilized society Obama administration will be behind bars for a looong time, but as the saying goes today, American society is the only one in history that went from barbarism to decadence without going thru civilization.
I'm not sure who is flippin crazier, bat $hit bachmann or pimptress palin. But honestly, I can't wait to see what kind of clown car stuffed with circus freaks the gop will roll out in 2016.
Keep Bachman in office...this crazy stuff is fun to watch!
Bow to me THAT is the only post that should be on ALL articles. Think i shall join you. i hope others will as well.
From reading these post,One would be led to believe that the Democrats are the most Honest,Saintly and enlightened party ever to be formed in recorded history.I've heard that the Democrats believe in equality and that everyone has the right to speak.Would someone please tell me where this party is?I have not seen much indication that this party is located on this postin site.what i see here is Party bashing and beating down those who disagee.
How about that Senator Menendez? No news coverage on MSN about him. One little story about Jessie Jackson, Jr., oh and lets not forget that pervert Weiner.
Democatic in congress are as dirty as the Republicans. CROOKS, LIARS, THIEVES AND PERVERTS.
Just MSNBC trying to divert attention from J J Jr. Bring up old stories so all the liberals can cry "See Republicans are corrupt too!". Sure, sending some e-mails for fund raising as compared to going to jail for illegally spending a years income worth of money on a personal accessory.
wolfhound27-dems are bullies and cowards at the same time. Also they are followers of the doctrine "repeat a lie often enough and the stupid will believe it as God`s gospel". You should also know that the right to speak is theirs only, for others is just a privilege.
Once again the party of NO.....the party of Rove, Cheney, Norquist, Gingrich, and Bachman try to defend their stance on rejecting facts over their acceptance of deliberate mis information and outright lies.....
As lying Fox news like to say...rt wingers are their base people. Their own rats leaping off the ship as it sinks...and these people tell the orchestra to keep playing...nevermind the life boats!
Gawd, what could more entertaining than reading about corrupt teabaggers?? Won't see hide nor hair of this news on faux though, will we????
Hey G-Man, how about that Weiner guy, didn't consider him entertaining? And, how about Menendez, no entertainment there(oops, MSN and other liberal media have not been covering the story on Menendez, gee wonder why), maybe for corrupt you might want to read a few articles on Jessie Jackson, Jr., maybe that will be entertaining to you.
Why do all of you bark at Bachman?
Find a tree and bark at the right tree...the right-leaning tree. Or wait, she is right-leaning. OK, keep barking at Bachman.
sharrianne, they are covering Menendez, Jackson and other dems. Anthony Weiner dropped out of politics for his shenanigans and so is Jackson. Meantime, Bachmann and her idiocy goes on. Her place on the intelligence committee is an embarrassment for the country.
Reb too badtyou can only see out of your Right eye an affliction callled ideology. THe President is parlaying his electoral succcesss into things like Gun and immigration control - gettting the rich up to speed on making their contribtuion to the country. As far as Bengasi is concerned - check it out on the Weather CHannnel under "Tempest in a Teapot." ANd as for the Liberal media - it's a myth which owes its longevity to two factors:
1.) THe parnoia thtat affflicts many on the RIght
2,) AMiong the more mentallly agile it's a form of gamesmanship - similar to how Phil Jackson used to work the refs before a big series. He figured it might, just might, get him a calll down the line and , Hey!@ It doesn't cost a thing and actuallly helps msake you feeel bettter to think the cards are stacked against you. FInallly, Q.) WHen is 47oper cent more than half? A.) in the 2012 Presidential Elecion.
Why is the mainstream media covering this ancient non-news story, while totally ignoring the ugly Senator Menendez scandal? Oh, that's right....Menendez is a Democrat!
Bachman is too pitiful to make fun of...she just really needs to go join her idiot twin sister in Alaska, and stay there. They can practice putting lipstick on eachother...hah!
Can you all imagine how life would be if there was NO public schools, most families would need Food stamps and Welfare because one person can't provide, open your eyes and look around how many couples have to work just to keep a roof over their heads ... Can't fix stupid people, no sense to even try, that's why We the people won't ever elect the GOP to the White House. NO COMMON SENSE! Always talk before they get the facts.
Guess I should tune my violin. Lots of crybaby baggers that sound like they need some musical accompaniment, lol.
I am from MN, am socially liberal but for fiscal responsibility. This woman scares the crap out of me. There are two sides to my concern. The first is that she is on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, giving her a new role as overseer of the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency and the rest of the U.S. intelligence community. The second is that it contains the word intelligence, which by definition is the opposite of how the religious right thinks.
LOL.... "isn't the Big O's dereliction of duty a tad more important".
The DOW hits a record January, aside from doubling from where it was when "The Big O" took office.
Unemployment continues dropping.
Domestic oil production over the past 3 years is the highest its been in 20 years.
Benghazi is a non story. Always has been. Continuing to harp on it isn't gonna change it. @!$%# like that happens all the time, sadly. The difference here was it was something shortly before the presidential election that Romney strategists, Rove chiefly, knew could be used as a wedge issue for the numb of mind. The fact that it keeps echoing from places like Fox has done little to change that fact that it has gotten 0 traction outside of that small alternative reality experiencing portion of the populace who still think Romney won the popular election, was anything other than a corporate raider and thief... You already know all the rest I have to say. Fill in the blanks there. You don't agree with it and I don't care.
The sum of it all is, what you believe isn't what is happening. Continuing to post like little bitches all over the internet as though you've somehow been robbed and are being hurt , that that country is near collapse, that the economy is still in the @!$%#ter despite being on par/higher than it was during Reagan years hasn't changed reality. So, continue to post your silliness. The majority of America will continue to either scratch their head in confusion as to how you've reached your conclusions, OR, just continue to laugh out you outright.
Both parties are corrupt, liars, theives and perverted. There is no defending perverts like Menendez, that looser Weiner (who was forced out, by his own pervert actions), Jessie Jackson who is a thief by his own admission. Oh, and lets not forget Clinton's oval office activities with Monica.
chipsalom
I won't argue much of what you state but i do have a couple issues.
1 I voted for the Pres in 2008 but cannot get past his signing NDAA, the Patriot Act and HR 347. I think it violated his oath of office. And to be fair, the Congress never had the right to give away ours in the first place. He should have refused to sign them.
2 While our economy has improved, there is a cliff ahead of us. We have over 140 trillion in obligations outstanding coming due in the near future. That much money does not exist. Since much of our debt is being sold to foreigners who are now refusing to finance our overspending any longer, something must be done and the liberals think we can just keep spending. What many fail to understand is that ALL social programs will be gone if nobody is willing to finance it.
My gawd, this from from the Party that screams every time a Conservative farts wrong. A "non-story". wow. I guarantee that it wouldn't be a "non-story" if Bush had been in office. You'd be screaming for impeachment and/or his death. And the rest of the posting was so much brain dead fairytale delusion it's not even funny and not worth even disputing, since the poster has his head up so far it would be a waste of time trying.
Man, all those hating on Bachman are just sexist... lol, well that is what the liberals say, every time a reporter get's a conscience and decides to publish the truth about one of the Democrats.
Man, it really has to suck so bad, to have to make an excuse and blame others... makes sense for the state of our education, no wonder we are slipping in the ranks to the double digits.
No surprises here the GOP all over America will do anything to gain power ..Dishonesty among the family value candidates is with a doubt the most prevelant .. there are some dems that rely on a dishonest campaign ..but there numbers are far fewer than the GOP .. if it wasnt for the gerrymandering that went on in 2011 the gop would control none of the branches of Gov .... Dishonesty is the only thing that keeps the GOP in the race
Batchit crazy or just a wingnut? Why can't the GOP see what she represents- hypocrisy in her marriage, hypocrisy in her acceptance of government subsidies, and hypocrisy in her cashing foster child checks hand over fist? Maybe because they are all under this strange cloud of denial- and as a Democrat, I couldn't be happier.
Crazy to worry about such an inconsequential issue yet remain silent and ignore the nation’s debt. Next thing we will be praising and celebrating the president’s grand vision for accumulating it.
The same reason they have a story of Romney blasting Obama for an apology tour on their more from MSNBC section at the bottom of this article even though that's from 6 months ago. They simply recycle old news stories. I have no idea their logic of recycling stories from pre election stories but they do it all the time.
John 737278, I agree with you, She is scary.
will90604
Q. Why are most Democrat AND Republican politicians lawyers?
A. Because there was no morality clause.
When one side actually starts to represent me rather than special interest or their own, let me know, I will gladly pick a side. Until then ......... I'm 49 and still waiting.
lisa s-1749992
I do see one benefit to her being placed in that position though. Because it is national security, she has to keep her mouth shut. :-)
Circle the wagons and hide the farm animals, any Bachman story will get the liberal cowards sexually aroused.
It would be if it were true but since it isn't there is nothing for the media to report.
Too funny reading all the posts from the righties, blaming the messenger (MSNBC) for a story they don't like. Hey deek-haids- do you also call the local newspapers and yell at them when they report the story about the house burning down in town, implying the newspaper caused the story, or was maybe biased against, say, warehouses because they didn't report a warehouse fire instead??
Criminny. Buncha Deeks.
drive-by 1.56 its because they are not playing devils advocate, or messenger, instead they are the devil themselves, they are the bully, the fire starter, the hate pushers....you want dirt on the GOP, come to msn, everyone knows it....no they did not make her and her people do this, but they advert significant truth news for junk news...how does this compare to what happened in Chicago this week other than to divert our short term memories...this is small while "their" guy goes on a rampage destroying everything in his path...its as one sided as I hear people saying fox news is, so instead of setting the bar they become limbo beam, how low can you go
damn MSNBC, you are a dirty referee, you cannot be trusted and clearly dont like that a lefter was caught and outted in Chicago this week...
see if you would serve the people instead of your dumb one-sided master (obviously left, FAR FAR LEFT with an unsatible need for chaos) this country might be a tenth of a percent smarter/more free, but no no no cash is all that matters...you are a corportation...and im not really sure why we would let a corporation tell us the "news"...one must question what type of sheeple they want to be, big, small, fat, skinny, whinny, etc...its just disappointing that you find this junk news D vs. R and advert stuff that would actually make mine and your families better.,,,pipe dreams away
"They simply recycle old news stories. I have no idea their logic of recycling stories from pre election stories but they do it all the time."
There's an obvious fix for your dissatisfaction with how MSNBC goes about their business, Larry. Any idea of what it might be?
Nawwwww....
chipsalom - many was thte time I complained about those on the Right not responding to reality but to phtasms of their own construction. I ask for one thing that the President had actually done that has harmed them and they talk about Hitler and revolution and eroding freeedoms - you've seen the laundry list. The ravings of lunatics!!!! And now that it's come out that President Obama has beeen training Honduran SPider MOnkeys so next CHristmas Eve they can climb down the chimney's of the people who have been foolish enough to register their automatic weapons with the Federal GOvernment. O M M is what it's callled. I've even seeen the uniforms - red and with a cap like a belllhop uniform except for a litttle cutout in the seat of the pants for the tail.Beware! Beware!!!!! Obama's Monkey army is on the March!
If anyone wants to know the real story on why Sen. Menendez is in trouble there is a great article on the Opinion page of The New York times today.
@sharrieannie...Clinton and Monica? Really? How far back do you want to go? OK, I'l play...how about Tricky Dick and his criminal activities? Do they count in this stupid game you want to play? Or should I go back to Teapot Dome? Maybe I should, given the teabag crackpots around these days.
Neither party has a monopoly on integrity, but let's stick to current events, not ancient history.
Why in the h**l do people leave the Faux news site, come over here, read an article and then complain that it isn't news? Because they don't see it on Faux.
They call this old news, (conveniently skipping the part that says the judge refused to dismiss the case last week) then wonder why everyone isn't talking about Benghazi.
G-man: I would say all the clowns that run in 2012 wants to run in 2016 because they where so funny. Where else can you go to not get a laugh. Same clowns but different names.
Bachmann is a Republican and as we have all come to learn it's OK for Republicans to twist, break or mutilate the law.................. Just ask Bush and Cheney, those two took breaking the law to new heights during the Bush dictatorship.
Hell, man- all you have to do is look at that picture of her, or consider some of the crap she's said, and you know instantly she's off her damned rocker.
And I suppose this is MSNBC's fault? C'mon, right wing losers. Get a clue.
You really want to go there pretending it's big city liberals abusing farm animals and not the rural hillbilly rednecks of your party?
realisticpessimist53---Simple it is funny what you lefties call news, right now I see implications of hear say, finger pointing and outright lies to get out of a lawsuit. But for the real facts tune into MSNBC who have failed to chase or even call, Jesse JR on his supposed mental illness. Yup lots of reporting there. I come over here to see what propaganda the left is reciting today. By the way does the President give press conferences or does he give a speech and walk away. True reporting there huh. Maybe I am on the vine to read all the opinions and then make up my own mind. By the way a judge not dismissing the case is not a judgement of guilt.
Roadless....
Do consider; Fox holds themselves out to be not only a 'news' outlet, but a 'fair and balanced' one at that. MSNBC proclaims they are 'the place for politics'
See a difference?
McCain/Palin
Herman Cain
Donald Trump
Newt Gingrich
Michele Bachmann
Romney/Paul
Man, you guys sure pick some losers!!!
Hmmm...we have a gay neighbor, very nice guy. But, I'm wondering if I should call Marcus Bachmann to get him some gay-to-straight "therapy".
Michele Bachmann...Marcus Bachmann...two peas in a pod of insanity...
Ms bachman and McCain are to of a kind...completely bat@!$%# crazy...........
Starman-2398642
And what about the Con-man and Chief?
Are you talking about Karl Rove, or Donald Trump?
the difference is, democrats acknowledge the fact that there are a few morally ambiguous people within their party and they condemn their behavior. republicans are so bereft of character that they either deny that there is any wrongdoing among their party members, or worse, they defend their actions as being okay
Was impeached by the House of Representatives on two charges, one of perjury and one of obstruction of justice, on December 19, 1998. He was acquitted by the Senate on February 12, 1999.
So much for that, President Clinton REMAINED President!!
You have proof of that, or is it those talking heads at FOX telling you that.
Your list is not nearly as funny as mine. We could go on, there are tons of your republicans I could name, but not really worth my while, those I've listed made me laugh hard enough!!! LOL
I think we should be paying much more attention to all politicans and how they raise money and from whom. The idea of politicans writing their own rules needs to end along with all the committees for funds they create for their own good.
....for lying about a BJ. and leading the charge were 9 republicans all of whom had extramarital affairs of their own--- and lied about them!--doh! I'd be happy to list them for you, just say the word
she has plenty of power in her own right. besides, I thought all you "family values" republicans were in favor of marriages staying together?
yes, he's a scumbag. are you you expecting somebody to defend him?
as for the others, if you have a point to make about them, please make it, with sources
LOOK!
Something shiny for the braindead!
Let's not talk about the complete failure of a govt we have.
Bulldozer62
Just out of curiosity, does that mean that you will admit that Harry Reid is keeping bills, both good and bad, sitting on his desk rather than letting them see the floor of the senate. It appears to me that his intentions are morally flawed and violate the constitution due to political cockblocking.
Ever since Nixon was impeached for being a crook, Republicans have been better at not getting caught, never changing their ways. Like their new "reboot 4.0", they have every intention of changing their crazy rhetoric, but never the outdated policies. Anyone who votes Republican is either insane, ignorant, or a Tea Bagger.
Hate to burst your bubble tracontech, but Nixon was not impeached...he resigned. He also wasn't a crook...he was never accused of stealing anything, he was accused of covering up a break at at the DNC headquarters. I hated the guy, but you getting basic facts wrong makes the rest of your post a waste of time. Try getting some facts before you rant...
um yeah.....your assertion might have some credibility if baby Bush hadn't had eleven embassy attacks under his watch, and yet, somehow, there were no impeachment proceedings resulting from them. okay, I lied---your assertions wouldn't have credibility under any circumstances
This explains why Robert Menendez, Charlie ("Taxes, what taxes?") Wrangel, and Nancy (Fly Me Privately on the Government Dime) Pelosi are still around.
Mark 865096.... Nixon resigned before congress could impeach him... I remember it well. He even admitted in an interview with David Frost that he was responsible for what his people did... "But...when a president does it...it is not breaking the law".... He never admitted to wrongdoing because, as far as his little paranoid mind was concerned, being president gave him carte blanche to do whatever he wanted to do...
After he resigned office, there were many people calling for him to be charged with conspiracy... but Gerald Ford issued a presidential pardon... You don't pardon someone if you are sure he is innocent...
the difference is if a liberal screws around with underage girls and break the financial laws their group supports and promotes them. If a Conservative does it his party will kick them out.
Lisa...I know the history as well as you apparently do. My post wasn't about whether Nixon was a scumb*g at all...he was, in just about every sense of the word. But when someone starts a post with that blatantly wrong a statement, like the OP did, the rest of the post is worthless. That was my point. Don't bring in historical references that are historically inaccurate. You look like a fool.
I've seen plenty of accusations from right-wing media sources. Interestingly enough, of the 15 (not 800, or even 300) bills I found that passed the house but were stalled in the senate, all of them had either pork or some grievous environmental deregulation attached to them. the bills are great, if you think it's worth it to create 10 or 15 jobs by destroying a region's air and water
No discussion of cockblocking is complete, however, without Mitch McConnell's "the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." Not jobs, not the economy, not education, not the citizens of America. Just naked partisan self-interest...oh, and the record-setting number of filibusters as a result
Bulldozer62
The thing is, is that I don't like any of them. My problem is that they are not doing their jobs. ANY of them.
How many times has the President vetoed a bill? ........0. Why? Because no bills are brought before him other than the ones that are allowed by the cronies. That is not checks and balances. The administration can't look bad vetoing bills if they never see his desk. That is not how our system is supposed to work.
While there are many issues I have with Boehner, at least he finally let the house decide for themselves on the tax debate. That is what the senates mandate is. Not for Harry Reid to decide for all of them.
The problem is that they are all cockblocking and it does no good when we allow it as a society. And it does more harm when some of us justify one behavior because it suits our interest while condemning another that is doing the same thing. It is sad to say, but they are a reflection of the society that their divisiveness has created.
Look at what you did. You sidestepped any responsibility that Harry Reid has in his post. It IS his job to bring bills to the floor and let "them" either accept, modify or kill them based on 100 votes, not just his.
Oh? you mean like they did to Gov. Mark Sanforth? and Sen John Ensign? How about Newt? Oh, but wait! I saved a few juicier ones for last:
Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.), a six-term congressman, and co-chair of the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus, who had sent sexually explicit e-mails and text messages to a 16 year-old male Congressional page. Foley resigned in September 2006, two months before the general election, long after the Republican leadership had failed to discipline him, and only after a blog (stopsexpredators.blogspot.com) and ABC-TV news exposed his hoped-for affairs may have included other staff dating back at least a decade.
and then there's:
Rep. Donald Lukens (R-Ohio), who was convicted in 1989 of a misdemeanor for having sex with a 16-year-old girl. He didn't resign until 1990
and let's not forget Sen Larry Craig and his "wide stance"
......shall I go one?
John, I am in agreement with you. there's nothing I'd like more than to get rid of the whole lot of them and replace them with people who remember that they work for us----and then have a national referendum limiting all of them thereafter to 2 terms
So let's stop taking sides against each other as citizens and let it become US against them as it should be. They, the parties, have divided this nation long enough. And while we may not agree on many, or any issue, we should all agree that they work FOR US, and not the other way around. And expect them to do their jobs.
john, I could most definitely live with that! I really believe that their M.O. is to keep us fighting among ourselves--that way we don't notice them laughing all the way to the bank
scottyconner: what's apparent by these posts, integrity has fallen out of fashion ....
Too bad Bachmann didn't get the republican nomination and beat Obama. This scandal surely would have brought an end to the dumbsh!t tea party and their dumbsh!t poster child. As it is, she will melt into obscurity denying us any further batsh!t crazy Bachmann antics and the Teabaggers will find a new puppet-on-a-stick to shove in our faces next election cycle. I can't wait.
That is why I've been an Independent since I first registered at 18. I don't want anybody thinking they automatically have me. I vote the issues, not the party.
Anyone who expects anything but total moral bankruptcy from this pig is delusional.
You people do realize Jesse Jackson Jr has resigned and is currently on trial for misuse of campaign funds facing jail time? As for Anthony Weiner, he has resigned in shame for his stupidity. Menendez, well I am uncertain as to how that will work out but the sooner he is gone the better. Now how bout that Bachman? Her campaign gets away with theft and nothing happens, come on people corruption is corruption. Give her the boot now!
This is why I believe that "No Labels" is actually trying to force representation. I have no affiliation with the organization other than getting e-mails concerning their work. This is the group that was able to get "No budget, no Pay" as part of the tax bill.
I only hope that those that are supposed to represent us were paying attention. Liberty is a participation event. Always has been, always will be.
"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?" (hillary clinton, 2013.)
Here is what we have recently learned about the Benghazi debacle and subsequent cover up:
The people in charge did not lift a finger to help and left those 36 people there to die.
Hillary Clinton was the worst and most incompetent Secretary of State in modern American history.
Barack Obama is so incompetent as to the point of being criminal and is no leader.
Leon Panetta is incompetent and should have never been our Secretary of Defense.
It is almost as if these fools are purposely attempting to hurt our nation.
Since I be votin' for Obama, my taxes have gone up,
Tell us --- which of your federal tax has gone up? My guess --- NONE. In fact, they have probably gone DOWN since 2009.
Ferndoc, what difference does it make? The facts are in, Benghazi happened. W.T.F.? What I find despicable is you scumbags and the talking head scumbags hate purveyors, making political hay out of this barnyard bovine excrement. You suck. This is an American tragedy, not a run for office nor even a vilification of those in office on either side. Which by the way republicans share some of the blame for cutting funds for State Department security. Non-issue.
And simply, name fits you to a tee. Especially for bringing fox facts here and expecting anyone but the mentally challenged to believe you.
Lib50, "That is why I've been an Independent since I first registered at 18. I don't want anybody thinking they automatically have me. I vote the issues, not the party."
So you don't think that political parties stand for something and republicans didn't vote lock step in both the house, its ok to vote for the person, but when they reach Washington they are either republican or democrat. Not very many vote independent of party. So issues, become the parties. In my opinion democrats believe in fair, and republicans believe in exclusion from fair. Democrats believe in strong social safety nets and republicans want to roll the clock back to before Franklin Roosevelt.
Charlie-1915998
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleaebeling/2012/06/28/obamacares-7-tax-hikes-on-under-250000-a-year-earners/
5 of the 7 have already gone into effect. Maybe you should spend less time "guessing" and more time looking for actual facts.
So what Bachmann talks she doesn't walk. Typical.
Backcountry, waaaaa, waaaaa, sniff sniff, waaaa, waaaa, waaaa. I got to start paying for my own health care instead of leaving it up to others to pay for me. Waaaaaa. We pay more for our health care because of people like you who stink up the country with your so called conservatism which is a by word for I don't want to be responsible for paying for the services I get. 7 taxes my big ol' butt. These so called taxes are TINO's.
What is your answer to having the most expensive health care on earth and yet one of the poorest and still leave 50 million people without access to life simply because of the affordability of basic health care?
These are not tax increases on all Americans, unless every American is visiting a tanning salon. Most are closing loophole deductions, and a couple are increased taxes on services, much like that $2 surcharge on your $20.00 tanning booth session.
"5 of the 7 have already gone into effect. Maybe you should spend less time "guessing" and more time looking for actual facts.
I asked which one of YOUR federal tax has gone up? You have investment income of over $250,000?
Who and how are these homeschoolers regulated? Teachers have to be certified they have to have college degrees that are not only pertinent to what they teach but in the art of teaching itself. The states regulate the curriculum so that their is a balanced course of study for a well rounded education. I am sure a very small percentage of these homeschoolers are qualified to teach in a certain subject area, but that virtually none are qualified to provide the range of learning the states expect of public and private schools, not to mention the social interaction these kids are deprived of. Are these people regulated in any way? Personally I think home schooling probably borders on child abuse in most instances.
As the head of the Tea Bagger Caucus in Clowngress - affectionately known as "Her Looniness", she has a great health plan that should help with that. But unfortunately, she appears to be off her meds again.
And for a number of you who have commented that she is scary - have you ever met her rabid supporters? They even frighten her - seriously.
Moshuluu
Barack Hussein Obama Jr. ,,,,,,,,, Indonesian citizen.
Moshuluu, you forgot American citizenship.
Please point out an incident where the Obama campaign was accused of stealing information about voters, ROY WILSON.
Complete failure? Where do you live, Simple? Are the planes no longer flying? The Post Office no longer delivering your mail? Schools shut down? Roads closed? No food? No electricity? No water? Widespread looting? Fires everywhere?
Keep on supporting Bachmann and the rest of the Tea Party weirdos and crazies. You are their base.
Considering you offer up no evidence of any and for the fact the topic is about someone other than Obama I think you're nothing more than an ignorant bigot. :) And that there is plenty of proof to support.
Well, let's see...
The list in question was stolen by Republican staffers working for a Republican candidate for president. By their own admission:
Kent said, "We took it." Kent said they weren't getting anything from Barb (Heki), so when she stepped out of the office they took it.
Kent said, "We stood watch."
Now, how about one example where Obama staffers stole a list of contacts? Hmmm, just one?
I guess you are right! That does explain the difference between Republicans and Democrats!
kb
You keep supporting the worst administration in history and those things will happen. It's the uninformed drones such as yourself who have no clue as to what is happening in our nation. You only know that Obama is not white.
In the south they would say "Bless her heart".
In the south this is a nice way of saying "dumber than a box of rocks".
She epitomizes the tea party.
It's not how you play the game, it's whether you win or lose. If you can't win....cheat.
If the majority of the population doesn't agree with you, find a way to restrict their vote.
If you want to press your social agenda, say it's GODS will.
What a loser!
Do you drink drano by any chance?
To wash down the paint chips?
Why, bless your pea picking heart.......
Drano honey, why bless your little Yankee heart! Obviously you need a plumber. Go fix yourself a 16 oz. bowl of mashed turnips and potatoes and hot "pork" gravy ... calm down, and try not to be so hateful, hon. You may never be quite "regular" but you'll feel better.
Obviously there are people here who know nothing about Kent Sorenson and what a cowardly, sniveling little troll he is.
If she''s a loser what the hell could you be except a bigger LOSER!
Hey, Drano! LOLOL... That's my girl, "bless her heart"... Best I've read, so far, today! Keep 'em coming, pard. At my age, a belly-laugh is "worth it's weight in gold!"
In reading your post I couldn't help but think.....just like Iran and other repressive Islamic regimes.
Bachmann is a nut for sure, and hard to believe she got to keep her seat.
Good defense. Yep we stole the list. Please tell us what we did wrong and we will respond to the suit.
Typical Lawyer double talk. Bachman can not do anything for heself without screwing it up.
When are the citizens of Minnesota going to get rid of this NUT?
they had a plan, but they canceled all moose hunts
Bachmann is more of a has been than Palin. She almost lost in the last election. She's accomplished nothing as a Representative. Her claim to fame this secession was introducing a bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act (for the 37th time) and she didn't get even one co-sponsor. I'll give her 1 more term at most. Sometimes even the stupidest voters see the light.
Thankl you "Underemployment" Just think these are the People we put in Office of the Public Trust, or at least some of us.
I remember when she won the "Straw Pole Contest" at the Fair in Iowa at the outset... Rumor has it that the resultant heavy chafing of her inner thighs and nethers are the real reason that the brakes were applied to her candidacy from that point on...
The dishonesty of the religious right never ceases to amaze. As usual, those pushing an agenda of alleged morality the hardest are usually those with the least moral convictions themselves, just as those screaming "freedom and liberty" tend to be liberty's biggest threat. Bachmann is a prime example of both.
Nathan-1680585
Exactly. They should have taken a cue from Obama's campaign and gotten "permission" to use peoples contact information for things they had no clue it would be used for.
it's god's will, Nathan. Bachmann is merely a soldier in the fight against the evil tyrant that threatens all of us (rolls eyes). If she gets accused of wrong doing, it most certainly must be a plot hatched up by the also evil "lamestream media" Ten to one this story never sees light on FOX.
twas gerrymandering that gave us this beast...
The robber barons have gained the reins of this country..good riddance to we the people ,let the Govt run our lives..they know best
Umm, "useyourmind"... the robber barons were the equivalent of our modern day corporate CEOs... not politicians. They still exist today. The point of calling them barons contradicts anything in public office. What i mean is, your government is determined by YOU, or better said, WE the people. If you have a problem with it, you are partly to blame, because you have a voice in its makeup.
That is the polar opposite of corporate CEOs. You don't get a voice.. unless ofc you have a board seat and own a @!$%# ton of stock in the company. In which case you are one of them.
I think you need to go back to junior high to restudy US history.
chipsalom
Really?? What brand of compter are you using and exactly who forced you to buy that brand???
We have far more control over CEO's than we do politicians. Politicians have the ability to force things upon us, no corporate CEO will ever be able to do that. If we don't like what a CEO does with his company we can simply choose to not do business with that company. Remember when BoA tried to charge people a $5 ATM fee?? How'd that work out? You really don't the the people had a voice there?? When a politician does something we don't like we don't have the ability to say "screw you".
And btw- "the robber barons were the equivalent of our modern day corporate CEOs" ...I think he understands that. The coprporate CEO's have gained the reigns of this country is the point he was trying to make.
Still waiting an answer, Backcountry.
Im all for abortions, it means far less Dems to support.
LOL......The "Browning of America" is scaring you to death, isn't it?
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
On a Saturday afternoon no less. Nah, that's not pathetic at all.
Ah, yes! "thou shalt not steal"... unless it helps you win!
Republicans have no morals. Steal a list here, tell a lie there. Nothing new just move on.
Be aware their new game just like the old game is bait and switch. You know like in 2010 they ran on jobs, jobs, jobs and then voted against every jobs bill even one for veterans.
If as a woman you wish to remain a 1st class citizen, vote for any republican at your own peril.
Americans First-3238795
"Jobs" bills, LOL! Silly sheep. Politicians stick silly little names in front of their bills to con the simple minded. Sort of like the "Affordable" Care Act.. Affordable!! ROTFLMAO!!
And yet, Republicans have abandoned jobs bills that THEY CO-SPONSORED just to make sure the unemployment rate stayed high before the election (that one for veterans was practically co-written by McCain, and he bailed out on it too). Note that most Republicans bailed on a bill to support the UN to help the disabled even with BOB DOLE, that noted leftist radical, coming in to speak for it.
Both sides use names on bills to imply some noble intent even though the name has little to do with the actual contents of the bill. Like Ryan continuously referring to a republican bill as bipartisan because 1 democrat out of 200+ in the house supported it. How many Americans actually read any bill? They're politicians.
American First you have a US Senator Menendez getting thousands of dollars of free flight and screwing around with underage girls in different country. What kind of morals does he have? You know he is a Dem
excessivelyperky
Wrong. The republicans so-called "jobs" bills are sitting on Harry Reid's desk gathering dust. You do understand that there are TWO houses of Congress right?? And that after a bill goes through one it still has to go through the other right?? Try to pay attention.
Backcountry - not true. The jobs bills proposed by the President were tabled by the House - didn't even put them up for a vote. The Republicans will not do ANYTHING to move jobs bills forward.
SeekingSanity
Allow me to repeat myself- "Jobs" bills, LOL! Silly sheep.
Don't suppose you care to share those bills with the rest of us and explain exactly why they should be called "jobs" bills?? (Any repubs should feel free to answer the same question about their "jobs" bills)
and btw, you do understand that writing bills is NOT the Presidents job right???
First Read headlines a minor kerfluffle about a GOP Congresswoman's 'use of a contact list'..
First Read ignores allegations of a Democratic US Senator having sex with underage 16 year old prostitutes...
Your state run media, hard at work...
Comeback? NOT
Source please!
This web site published stories on that issue on Feb 2, 4, and 5, as a simple search would reveal. Your remarks about state run media are nonsense.
Agreed GOP.Guess they couldn't edit the tape to fit their agenda.
Dear Michelle, you delusional moron:
Please, DO run for the Senate seat against Al Franken. Please. The rest of MN is not as stupid as your district and we can't WAIT to show you what we think of you as we cast our ballots for Senator Franken.
Thanks, and hugs!
Not stupid but you elected Al Franken?LMAO
State run media? Bet you got that at the faux wing of the republican party propaganda station.
I never met so many republicans that fear the truth and runs towards and grasp at any dubious conspiracy theory.
Women vote for a republican and become a second class citizen with the state making your medical decisions. That is not freedom to me.
To a republican it is quite okay to take your assault weapon and gun down 20 children after they are born in the name of gun freedom they want to protect.
Yet at the same time the republicans want to force a rape victim to carry the child as every life is precious, that is until it is born.
Funny the republicans believe in right to life except for the living.
The allegations against the US Senator havent been proven! Besides, that's nowhere NEAR as improtant than the deliberate attempt to destabilize US solvency! The latter is TREASON!
After hearing about killing Americans with drones, Bob Menendez with underage prostitutes and Jesse Jackson Jr.'s escapades this story is like going to the ice cream parlor with the kids on Sunday afternoon.
Post 5.5:
You mean the Harvard educated Senator Franken? He is very popular here and has done an outstanding job representing MN.
Let's see, where oh where did Michelle matriculate?
Oral Roberts University. A national joke.
Too True Newday !!
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
Al Franken is the liberal version of Michelle Bachmann. Bragging about choosing one crazy @!$%#er over another doesn't exactly make you or your state seem all that intelligent. I mean really, are these two the best you guys can come up with??
And what did Michelle Bachman major in while attending Oral Roberts "university"? Oh thats right, "Biblical law"!!! ROTFLMFAO!!!
If I remember right from reading the bible, "biblical law" requires that you stone your daughter to death in the town square when she gets raped by someone she is not married to.
You know I am beginning to see the NRA's point about owning Assault Rifles to protect myself from an out of control federal government. But unlike the NRA, I would use it to protect myself from the likes of Michelle Bachman and her religious fanatic followers who want to force their twisted belief system down my throat, not from the "liberals" who want to give me cleaner air and water, free education, universal health care and a social safety net for when times get tough.
deprogrammer
...not from the "liberals" who want to put me in the poor house so that I can have slightly cleaner air and water, free worthless education, long waits and shortages of universal health care and a social safety net for when times will get and stay tough.
There, fixed it for you.
btw, congrats on avoiding a second ban after your re-reg.
Which means you know nothing about the good Senator, do you Backcountry?
Accurate name, by the way.
Wouldn't want to upset you there, newday, but are you aware that Ted Kaczynski holds a Ph.D from Harvard?
deprogrammer
That's Obama's Quoran not the Bible !
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
I know crazy when I see crazy. Even Al Franken admitted that anyone voting for him would be a travesty. Gee, I guess I've got to give him credit for being honest even if it was well before he became a politician.
Yawn. How can you call yourself a fan of Al Franken if that's the best insult you can come up with??
Al Franken is Einstein compared to Bachmann.
deprogrammer is living in his mommies basement...I have proof
Bachman is Einstein compared to you..what's your point?
Backcountry: "even Franken admited anyone voting for him would be a travesty..."
TEST: When did Franken say that and why? Let's see how much fact you actually know versus the rwnj bullcrap that is spewed night and day.
Actually, I find your choice of name to be illustrative.
tedcrawford: You aware that Scalia is Harvard trained too? Would you be suggesting that he is disturbed like Kaczynsky?
lib50
And Elmer Fudd is Einstein compared to Franken
"Justsayin..fool"
Isn't "just saying" a Glenn Beck phrase? You know, the guy who was so insane that Fox Noise had to fire him? I mean how frigging crazy do you have to be for Fox, which makes it's money pandering to nutjobs and wingnuts, not to even want you around?
I have found over the years that whenever the wingnuts (conservatives) accuse you of something it usually means they are guilty of it themselves.
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
He said it in an interview regarding his satirical book about running for President. The best satire always has an element of truth.
I don't pay any more attention to right wing bull crap than I do left wing bull crap. I think you're all sheep and the color of your wool, be it red or blue, makes little difference.
Wrong, Backcountry,no points. Give the article and the exact quote.
And quit believing crap like this.
I await your correction.
Apparently, Backcountry has chickened out, not surprisingly, so for the anyone else who likes to believe this stuff, here is what Franken was talking about. From The Joke Stops Here, Paul Duchene, The Oregonian:
Here is what Franken actually said in an interview about his book Why Not Me:
There are two ways to market. One is to do the Pat Paulson thing and announce you are running .... I take campaigns seriously, and I wouldn't want to inject myself into something that I think is sacred. If I put myself on the ballot and even 50 people voted for me, it'd be a travesty, so I wrote a book about it instead."
Yep. Sounds totally different when you have the whole quote, right Backcountry? But you wouldn't know that would you? You prefer to believe the Limbaugh's of the world.
Yet what about on the 3rd? If that's not a liberal cover up I don't know what is.
P.S. This country doesn't have a state run media. They're referred to as mainstream media.
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
Ummm, actually I have a life. Do you, or do you spend your entire weekend sitting in front of a computer?
I knew what the quote was referencing even if I don't have Al Frankens bio committed to memory such as you apparently do. Think about it for a second genius, did you actually think I'd be unable to find the exact quote on-line if I had bothered? So what did you expect your little "test" to prove other than whether or not I have the ability to use a search engine??????
"Ummm, actually I have a life. Do you, or do you spend your entire weekend sitting in front of a computer..."
And yet here you are trying to find a way to make yourself less humiliated.
If we take you at your word, and you knew what the quote was referencing, we must then assume that you did not mind lying and leaving out the most salient part.
Or were you just hoping I wouldn't notice that you were back?
In any event. The answer is yes. I agree with you. You do look as absurd as you think you do.
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
LOL! Humiliated??? I'm just some anonymous person on the net how on Earth could I be humiliated? Is that what you are feeling by chance? Humiliated by the fact that you asked a dumb-assed question that even a simpleton would have been able to fake his way through? Or maybe it's that's you've been called out for having no life?? Dude, don't sweat it! Nobody know who you are, there is no reason to be embarrassed.
Lying?? WTF are you talking about?? I said it was a satirical book about running for President. Do you not understand what satire is??? The book was a joke so obviously if he had ran for President to promote his book that would also be a joke. Did I really need to give a dissertation explaining that? (do you even know what a dissertation is? Having a little trouble gauging your level of intelligence, let me know if you need me to break out the crayon font) You were just so sure I was some FoxNews watching zombie that had no clue what the quote was about that you just couldn't accept that you were wrong.
I have no doubt that you think so (and could not care less) as it is painfully obvious that you see exactly the things you want to see. For Chirst's sake, you apparently thing Al @!$%#ing Franken is some sort of genius or something...What more proof of your ability to self-delude would someone need!
American families lost a total of $19.4 trillion (in 2010 dollars) in household wealth from June 2007 to March 2009... First it was the housing market, and then it was the housing and the stock market together that tanked. American families lost $6.4 trillion in home value during this period. Source: here
That wasn't a liberal!
If you wish to find out what a person character is like, find who their associates are and who they keep company with. Bachmann comes out as a sleaze.
That would be Obama and Rev. Wright correct? That would be Obama and Ayers correct? While I'm not a fan of Bachman,she has used her life to raise foster children,so casting stones at someone who has made a difference is rather childlike.
AND collect ALL THE MONEY that comes with foster children.
broker1.. She gets ample government financial assistance for foster children. If they were adopted she would only get a tax exemption which is minimal for her income bracket.
So, if she were so concerned about these children, why doesn't she adopt them.
Come on Louie
If there is so much money in raising foster children,how come there are so many not being placed in homes.Jesus Christ, you don't have to look far to see our failing education system at work.
There is a difference between raising children, and giving them lodging for a night or two. She did nothing more than run a hostel, , get paid by the government, then claim she 'raised' all those 37 kids. What a crock. Given that wormans loose sense of morals, she should never have been allowed anywhere near any kid.
RedDevPS.......great call on Michelle's foster children! Imagine all those nice young girls being brainwashed by the bat brained foster mama! Also, an interesting fact, ALL OF THEM WERE GIRLS! Could it have some significance that Marcus was in the house as well? Why not any BOYS??
Luckily, Michelle has been quite quiet since her trumping at the polls in November! Maybe she has gotten the message that her idiotic messages have finally caught up with her. I am in her district and an Independent, have never voted for her and really hope she runs again Franken, then the smart people of MInnesota will finally dump her for good.
Minnesotan - good luck with that. In my state, we finally got rid of resident crazy rep, the wife of Sonny Bono. The sweetest part of it, Florida also got rid of the other half of the Bono-Mack undynamic duo.
and that's without even getting into the subsidies she gets for her "farm". Teabagging pays well for a job where you hate your boss...
But all you libs want government monies for yourselves..you are the epitome of hypocritical...pathetic.Thomas Blue it sounds like you speak from experience..teabag much ?
Cheating? Stealing? Lying? In Bachmann's camp? I'm SHOCKED.
You should be ,as should we all..that mostly comes from the Dems camps.
Any politician is likely corrupt of whatever party. Even those that don't directly steal or cheat sell their support for campaign money. When Sheldon spent 100 million on Romneys campaign Romney pledged if elected to create a one year tax holiday allowing Americans with foreign earnings to repatriate that money tax free. Allowing Sheldon to repatriate his 8 billion or so tax free would have saved him one billion in one year. Think that's a coincidence?
Nothing is off limits to the GOP ! No rules sacred , no boundrys they won't cross. So some of you want these people in office?
No, how about Jesse Jr., Barney Frank and his boyfriend who ran a male prostitute ring out of Barney"s apartment; Corzine, who lost 1and a half billion of client's money; Dodd's bailout of Countrywide where he got a 2% loan over the phone; Rangel's forgetting to pay his income tax; ditto for Geither; and on and on from the dems. Remember, "Its a tangled web we weave when once we practice to deceive."
Your avatar fits you perfectly.
Bachmann is nothing more than a crazy tea bagging nut case!
Run that Jesse Jackson Jr story again, since story amounts to beans.
Just another example of how the right wing Republicans will stop at nothing to attain their goals! Dont ever EVER believe anything a Republican say--------- WATCH what they DO!! If the last 4 years havent proven that this version of the GOP is DANGEROUS to the country, then I say you are willfully ignorant (probly not) -- OR that your party means more to you than your country ( far more likely)
that Bachmann such an attention whore.. could YOU BELIEVE
She ACUALLY Ran for a president..what type of idiot will vote for
that shallow douchbag..oy vay
can NOT Believe she was running for a higher office.
she is a total shallow douchbag.
RK101: Where does all of your hatred come from...?
a maryland booth Where does all of your hatred come from...?
Who are you asking? Are you asking that of the republicans who hate the President? Lots of hate posted on here by the republican/tea party & the rest of the right wing.
Smitty ..read her post..I know it may be beyond your hate monger..just breathe and read the puke of the left wing..don't tell me you don't see it...REALLY ???
LOSEYOURMIND,The left wing is right and the right wing is wrong. American's have seen the last four years nothing but hatred by the GOP,and their refusal to govern, and that is why your party has become insignificant, and will soon be a footnote in history. What is really funny is the Rethuglican party did it to themselves with no outside help.
LOSTYOURMIND is more be fitting
if you start counting right now and manage to say one number per second it will take over 507,000 years to reach 16,000,000,000,000 ... and this is the best MSNBC can come up with ...
If you start back with Reagan and build up significant steam when you get to Bush you'll find its really easy to get to 16 trillion in a little over 30 years.
At Obama's pace it would take only 11 years, So what is your point?
The point is Bush started with a 5.7 trillion deficit and ended at 12.1 with a final deficit of 1.2 trillion. The 2009 budget was passed under Bush in October 2008 before Obama was even elected. Didn't know that did you? You probably didn't know the economy the last six months of 2008 during the great meltdown lost 11 trillion in net worth and 500 billion less tax revenue per year. As stated by the CBO who ever was elected in 2008 would have deficits over 1 trillion a year just paying the same bills Bush paid with no new spending. Luckily according to polls before the election the majority of Americans at around 80% including the majority of republicans blame Bush for our deficit and debt and not Obama. 80% of republicans are intelligent enough to do simple math. Sorry that you apparently fall in the 20% that can't.
Change 5.7 deficit to debt on above post.
I really don't think it is a party matter.
This woman should be making babies and posing for playboy not running for President ?
I bet her husband had tons of fun making babies.
I would say what was Minnesota thinking ?
Many states elect people that have no business being in politics.
Illinois comes to mind.
Name a good one that came from that state.
Please, don't blame all of MN for that one district. They are an embarrassment and an anomaly.
Lincoln, Adlai Stevenson, Ronald Reagan.
Something funny in the water? Toxic waste dump? What is going on in Michele's district?
rukidding Name a good one that came from that state.
Abraham Lincoln Or is he not good enough for you.
It is a weird district, JimS....takes in some wealthy 'burbs, but also a swath of a more rural "guns and God" area that I generally read about because of some racist activity or out of control party.
The folks I know in that district claim they don't vote for Michelle, but clearly SOMEONE is. She had to work against her last opponent, and can do so largely because of out of state contribution from the evangelicals who think she is the second coming. Without that money? I wonder how she would do?
Lincoln. And before you say he was a republican I'd remind you that prior to Johnson republicans were the left liberal party supporting minority rights and democrats were right wing.
All this from the religious, moral right!!! I am mortified. Please say this ain't so! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I don't see the point of this article...so what? This is just more smear of a conservative by the left. Let's replace the name Bachmann with Obama--it's the same story...
many are now saying its the Tea Baggers and morons like Bachmann who DESTROYED
America and took the GOP Down with them.. thats a good GREAT NEWS.
many morons say obama isn't adding over $1,000,000,000,000 to the debt every year
I guess those morons know that congress has the check book.
Of course, if a president lied his way into a war, you could say he added the cost of that war to the national debt.
And that obam did..not just one war,but going for more
No one I know has said that. They're saying he's spending that amount paying bills Bush created. Bush's last budget for 2009 passed in October 2008 had a 1.2 trillion deficit. Why was it ok for Bush to spend 1.2 trillion a year more than we took in but not Obama? Obama hasn't created a single new permanent program that adds to the deficit he's simply paying the same bills Bush did but with 500 billion a year less tax revenue because of Bush's great meltdown. For someone who doesn't use capitalization or punctuation you're not one to accuse others of being morons.
Hey watch that don't use my name in vain, especially when associating it with the Executive Liar in Chief.....................:)
The only problem I have with Michelle is she is getting money from the government to farm or not farm. Plus she's on the government payroll and will recieve a retirement check also.
She is dumb as a fox.
Who is Bachmann? Where is the story about present day Senator Menediaz hooking up with little girls in The Dominican?
Yes... and WHERE WAS OBAMA DURING THE BENGHAZI ATTACK?
And what does the Dominican Republic or Benghazi have to do with Bachmann stealing email lists? Speaking of attention deficit disorders.
While we're at it, where was Bush during the 9/11 attacks HE WAS WARNED ABOUT IN ADVANCE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WztB6HzXxI
"Pres. Bush, we are going to be attack by terrorist..somewhere in the US, sometime after today. We don't know how they are going to do it or who is involved but, this is your warning."
Seems like a lame warning don't you think?
"Mr.Pres. we have embassies in the middle east that hate us and the aniversary of the 9/11 attacts is quickly approaching.Do you think we should up the defenses of those embassies ?"
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?
Where was Bush on 9-11?
Tea baggers to change their names to DOUCHBAGERS.
does this mean your wife doesn't wash ?
RK101: Your spelling isn't very good (do you teach in the government schools?) --but you certainly are good at immature name calling. You sound like a 7th grader.
i can't figure out what's worse about the democrats ... bawling about "we want more free rubbers" or "we can't live without our free cheese"
anthony weiner sends pictures of his weiner to babies bob menendez flys to Dominican Republic and has sex with babies and this is what MSNBC uses to cover up the real news
The two democrat stories have been well covered by MSN and others. So, your response about Bachman is to deflect. Very mature.
not so jody...very very little coverage
actually, the story is about Bachmann's staffers.
Is this really worth looking into? Must be the Obummer police at work!
No doubt Jesse Jackson Jr. is now a poster boy for Chicago style politics mentored by the Thug in Chief.
Obama and Rahm Bomb supported him in his re-election campaign. But then again, they supported Blago as well. They may be neighbors again soon.
Bachmann will simply have to be satisfied with her current role as a representative for the American Taliban.
You got that right. All Hispanics back to Mexico, Blacks to the cotton fields, Seniors to concentration camps (so you don't have to pay Social Security or Medicare), and while your at it repeal all womens rights. That is the single digit IQed Tea Party.
Hmmm... the neo-nuts defending Bachmann the Hypnotized should have this idiot of a woman as their Senator-For-Life!
How this insane woman of the "Stupid Party" became a member of the US Intelligence Committee is still one of life's mysteries-- that defies all known logic.
Naw..that tittle goes to your worship obam..second only to "squirrel-nutty" pelosi and harry (can't) reid