Elkhart four years later … State of Union stronger, but not as strong as it could be … It’s still the economy … Obama under 50% in latest polls … Dems plan to ‘win’ the sequester … Bipartisan gun deal? … Breannan pressed, but could teach Hagel a thing or two … Dempsey ‘surprised’ Clinton didn’t know about Benghazi cable.
Published 9:45 a.m. ET -- *** Elkhart (and America) four years later: Exactly four years ago tomorrow, President Barack Obama -- who had just been sworn in for his first term -- traveled to Elkhart, Ind., to sell his economic stimulus. At the time, Elkhart had a sky-high unemployment rate(19.4% as of Feb. 2009) due in large part to the city’s reliance on the manufacturing industry (especially the making of recreation vehicles). “I promised you back then [in 2008] that if elected, I'd do everything I could to help this community recover, and that's why I came back today, because I intend to keep my promise,” Obama said. Because of that promise, NBCNews.com began a series called “The Elkhart Project” chronicling the city’s recovery. Four years later, with Obama set to deliver his latest State of the Union address on Tuesday, Elkhart is pretty much the story of America: Things are better, but not back to where they were before the economy crashed in 2008. Elkhart’s unemployment rate is now 9.3%, down significantly from its peak in ’09, but below the state (8.2%) and national average (7.9%). “We’re definitely not where we want to be, but we have certainly rebounded from where we were,” said Barkley Garrett, the city’s economic development director. “All in all, considering where we were, we are doing well. But we have a long way to go.”
Aug. 5, 2009 (archival video): NBC's Chuck Todd poses questions to President Obama about the economic realities that most Americans, particularly those in economically hard-hit Elkhart, are facing during the recession. President Obama spoke at Wakarusa, Indiana announcing federal grants to support hybrid RV and pick-up manufacturers.
*** The State of the Union is stronger -- but not as strong as it could be: Speaking in Elkhart four years ago, the president acknowledged that full economic recovery would take time. “Even with this plan, the road ahead won’t be easy. This crisis has been a long time in the making; we’re not going to turn it around overnight,” he said. “Recovery will likely be measured in years, not weeks or months.” We now begin Year Five of America’s road to recovery. The state of the union -- at least economically -- is stronger than it was four years ago. But it also would be a stretch to say it’s as strong as it could be.
*** It’s still the economy: Despite the focus on guns and immigration, the economy remains the biggest story. And with analysts believing unemployment will remain in the mid-7% range into next year, the philosophical fiscal divide in Washington, mirrored across the world, will continue. There’s been no bridging the conservative view that austerity measures/spending cuts, especially in the public sector, to reduce the debt will lead to growth and the liberal view that more temporary deficit spending is necessary to provide support to a fragile economy -- and that those public-sector cuts are a big part of what's holding the economy back.
*** Not great news for Obama in latest polls: The president’s approval rating in a round of polls after his reelection showed Obama over 50%. Well, this morning the president’s approval is under 50% in both a new FOX poll (49%) and Quinnipiac poll (46%). The FOX poll also shows pessimism continues to reign.
*** Democrats plan to “win” sequester: Part of Obama’s State of the Union is going to be the sequester, Politico notes, and pushing for ending loopholes for the wealthiest, something Democrats believe they have broad support for: “Senate Democrats are digging in against Republican calls for deeper spending cuts by bringing out some of their favorite punching bags: corporate jets, Wall Street and Big Oil. With the automatic budget cuts in the sequester coming up next month, Democrats hope to vote on an alternative plan to raise taxes on some of their favorite boogeymen in hopes of shifting the blame when the GOP inevitably rejects it. … The Democratic public pressure campaign is expected to begin in earnest next week, starting with President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address on Tuesday and a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing expected Thursday at which senior administration officials will most likely sound the alarm that so-called sequestration cuts would devastate the economy. … According to sources familiar with the matter, Democrats are leaning toward a plan that would be split 50-50 between spending cuts and tax hikes, financed in large part by new taxes on corporate and wealthy taxpayers.”
*** Bipartisan gun deal emerging? Guns is also likely to be a topic, and AP reports that there’s a bipartisan private group that is aiming at forging a deal expanding background checks and working on mental health issues. AP: “A bipartisan quartet of senators, including two National Rifle Association members and two with ‘F’ ratings from the potent firearms lobby, are quietly trying to find a compromise on expanding the requirement for gun-sale background checks. … The senators' talks have included discussions about ways to encourage states to make more mental health records available to the national system and the types of transactions that might be exempted from background checks, such as sales among relatives or to those who have permits to carry concealed weapons, said people who spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to describe the negotiations publicly.” The senators involved in the private group include Democrats’ No. 3 Chuck Schumer, Joe Manchin (D-WV), and Republicans Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and Rep. Mark Kirk of Illinois. It’s significant that, once again, Schumer’s in the middle of this, positioning himself as a dealmaker. Makes us wonder if Harry Reid’s thinking about retiring before his re-elect in 2016…
*** Brennan pressed, but could show Chuck Hagel a thing or two: The confirmation hearing for John Brennan to become CIA director began with fireworks with Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Sen. Dianne Feinstein needing to shut it down and clear the room after five protests. Eight people were arrested outside. Brennan sparred with senators over drones, torture, leaks, and Benghazi. Some senators disagreed with him and pushed him, especially on interrogation. Some might not be happy with his "I don’t know what the truth is" answer, but he was ready, confident and unapologetic. He acquitted himself much better than Chuck Hagel, the president’s nominee to be Defense Secretary. It was a stark contrast. Jill Lawrence, writing under the headline “John Brennan Shows Hagel How It's Done,” called it “a startling 180-degree contrast.”
*** The debate over kill or capture: The Washington Post notes that Brennan was challenged on why “the number of drone strikes has soared while captures of terrorism suspects have dwindled to single digits” under President Obama. “I never believed it's better to kill a terrorist than to detain him,” Brennan said in an exchange with ranking member Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA). Still, the number of detainees has declined significantly, according to the Post. Is it because of better intelligence? Does it have to do with Obama wanting to avoid detainees? It’s an important question, but one no one with any knowledge is going to answer in public. (Brennan will go at it again in a closed classified hearing with the committee Tuesday.)
*** Dempsey ‘surprised’ Clinton didn’t know about Benghazi cable: Two pieces of news came out of the other hearing on the Hill yesterday before Armed Services with outgoing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey: (1) Panetta and Dempsey said they agreed with a Hillary Clinton (State)-Gen. David Petraeus (CIA) plan to arm rebels in Syria, and (2) Dempsey said he was informed of the Benghazi cable requesting more security by the U.S. African Command, that he offered more help, but it was turned down. And then when asked how what he thought about Secretary of State Clinton testifying that she had no knowledge of the cable, he said, “I would call myself surprised that she didn’t.”
*** Obama acknowledges tension with Capitol Hill Democrats: At the House retreat yesterday, the president rallied Democrats about budget cuts and that he’s willing to fight for Democratic values in the court of public opinion with Republicans. “I have to tell you, if that's an argument that they want to have before the court of public opinion, that is an argument I'm more than willing to engage in,” he said to. But he also acknowledged tensions with Capitol Hill Democrats with this: "There will be times where you guys are mad at me, and I'll occasionally read about it." Today, Bill Clinton (10:00 am ET) and comedian Stephen Colbert (!!!) address the group.
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Elkhart four years later … State of Union stronger, and that's comparing it to who Greece, France, ????
roflmaoooooooooooooooooooooo
The answer is simple. Bring jobs back to the US.
If you do not then the system will fall further in dissaray. Imagine selling food to other countries and receiving goods in return. That would be a great way to disenfranchise half the population take their homes and other property.
Its funny to drop a little food into a fishbowl and watch the little fish dance. A little less food and they dance even faster.
At a gainful wage an American worker can easily produce a large surplus. And a large profit for our dependents rich and poor.
Who cares about the corn fed hillbillies,,no one cool even lives there.
Po dung state full of simple minded farmers
You won't eat without farmers and they could outwork you anyday of course your a lazy liberal who thinks someone is ripping him off!
Jobs will not be coming back,they are now dependent on gun point labor in other countries,and low labor in the welfare red states
JimS...North of $2 Trillion. Please...Stay on point. If/when interest rates go up coupled with an increasing debt load, inflation will occurr. That will hurt the middle class the most. Do you REALLY think that the increasing debt will not soon be a major problem?
When we have republicans in congress making stupid statements about how much we borrow from China, we can't expect the right wing crazies here to have a clue.
Why do you defend a loser who has no clue on the economic problems maybe you need lessons on the debt, look at greece england italy spain all have the same problems we do. Get in the real world buddy. You must be from a state that is broke.
JimS-459172----Your boy Obama hasn't had a workable or real budget in 4 years. The Democrats?, they don't want a budget because it would scare the hell out of everyone in this country. Ask Harry Reid.
If interest go up,,lmao
They will go up,and it's good for me I will make more money bye way of interest,,
Bulletman357=----What ever goes up will come down. Hold on tight, we have budget and have not had one in a while. Keep your guns and your illegal immigrants handy. Obama thinks that it more important. More Illegals getting all of the those tax dollars you are paying on increased income taxes.
Yes! Barack Obama's approval rating is back down in the 40's according to the latest Quinnipiac and Fox News polls
Quinnipiac 46% approve
Fox News 49% approve
Talk it down, talk it down! Get him down into the low 40's then the 30's. Rip him, bash him, start the onslaught!
Any legitimate incident, seize on anything!
If Obama would come out in favor of a father having sex with his daughter and for brothers and sisters to get married, his approval rating in the deep south would be over 90%.
if Obama announced that he was shredding the Constitution and making himself dictator for life....his approval rating among the far-left would shoot up to damn near 100%!!
Mr obama is more worthless than tits on a boar! Four years of no budget cuts no guts to get it done blames the other party and kicks the can down the road. Everything is someone fault and the press never presses him to be a leader were More concerned about what the first lady wears how she cuts her hair and what a fine couple they are. Just like the clinton's they are phony people, that's right get the picture. Defend him all you want he is more concerned about his resume than the people if he cared about our kids he would be on the economy and the debt!
But he still has a better rating than the dumb fak bush had ,,,,,and will ever have
Lay off the bush lets talk about odumbo, just ignore the issue blame someone else. His ratings come from the liberal press who just kiss his ass.
@Billof: Sure lay off Bush, just as soon as every Pukebag GOP member lays off Clinton. Heck, half of you have CDS soooooo bad, there is no cure for you.
And then like the hypocritical rear ends, you complain about the poor wibs who blame Bush. Me, I think it's funny you do realize what you look like. Yes, the low informed people you are, otherwise you wouldn't make comments like that. ROTFLMPO
Republicans will never forgive Clinton for 8 years of peace, prosperity, low unemployment and a budget surplus.
Jim, ...or letting in Muhammed Atta and all the 9/11 hijackers on his watch, to take up training for the attack on on our own planes
The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail.
A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites the Governor.
The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi"
and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is
natural.
He calls Animal Control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the
State $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.
He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State
$200 testing it for diseases.
The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for
diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.
The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a
$100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.
The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote
awareness program" for residents of the area.
The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies
and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the world.
The Governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the attack. The
State spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special
training regarding the nature of coyotes.
PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million suit against
the State.
TEXAS :
The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A
coyote jumps out and attacks his dog.
The Governor shoots the coyote with his State-issued pistol and keeps
jogging. The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.
Buzzards eat the dead coyote.
And that, my friends, is why California is broke and Texas is not.
JimS...Typical left wing response. Answer the question...Is the growing debt a coming crisis? Not difficult...Just answer!
I didn't expect you to understand the question.
Mitt lost and really bad,,,now you sore,losers on the right should get a valid body to run in 2016, not a guy that was out of touch with 99 percent of the people,,,maybe you can elect two guys in one. Chris Christy,,,or mane the Sp1ck Rubio. Na,Clinton will win anyway
RIH turds
Uhoh, Demoncat Racism ^^^^^^^^^^ above
"Sp1ck Rubio"???? Dems, I am shocked at your racism, how could you?
Bill
Bush as a rearded loser like you ,,worst Potus we ever had,even worse then Tricky Dick,Hoover,
amen...
don't mess with texas... they get the job done right the first time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ILL
Land of Lincoln,the best thing about that pos state
Want to piss of a repub,tell the truth,,
TX
Full of right wing low level labor that has caused the recent boom.They have a few things going for them,but too many right wingers,Mexican scum and just plain dumb people
The debt is already a crisis simpleton.
Next stupid question,,,'
Bill
Go back to your trailer Welare rightie,the republitards want the corp farms to out produce the mom and pop farms.
You repukes will lose again in 2016
"Dempsey said he was informed of the Benghazi cable requesting more security by the U.S. African Command, that he offered more help, but it was turned down. And then when asked how what he thought about Secretary of State Clinton testifying that she had no knowledge of the cable, he said, “I would call myself surprised that she didn’t.” "
.....Hillary is a liar and an evil hag!!
@HopeisGone, and Joe in Albany, it's already been proven you two, and others from the low informed right wing side are LIARS.
FACT is, DIDN'T the GOP promise America Obama was going to be a one term President? YOU LIED THEN, YOU LIE NOW. At least the D party didn't put lipstick on her like the GOP did to Sarah Pailin. Neither one would win a beauty contest, that's for sure.
I may be a liberal but Sarah Palin is hot as hell! Sorry Sally...
You only think that Sarah Palin is hot because you haven't seen her naked.
I have in my dreams Jim!
Did she show you "Russia" in your fantasies, Leroy?
SallyAnn.....from the way you sound in your post, it is highly doubtful anyone would ever pay to see you naked, Republican or Democrat..........the word that keeps coming to mind is "crotchety"........
Sally............in 2006, Senator Obama said that "raising the debt limit was a sign of failed leadership". Today as President he says it is absolutely essential that the debt limit be raised.
Tell me-------------which one is true and which one is a lie..........take your time...take your pick.
Last time Obama was playing politics. Every side always does this GC but until the last time none of them on either side would ever have voted against it if their vote would actually mean that America would reneg on the money she owes. The parties just used the vote against as a protest vote when it was already assured that the limit would be raised. The Tea Party are freakin' crazy and responsible for the first ever credit downgrade of the nation. Now that these lunatic members of the republican party are running around, we have to make sure the limit gets raised, no more pissin' around.
Leroy...........last time he was playing politics but not this time? What a load. Of course he is playing politics then and now. The question was directed toward Sally with her lie statement. For your information, playing politics that is not the truth is being a liar. Pure and simple.
By the way do you have any idea why the Tea Party was formed. Its roots go back to 1984 when then President Reagan charged the Grace Commission with the task of uncovering government waste. The commission came with over 1000 recommendations how to cut waste. In his letter to the President, Peter Grace a democrat and now deceased said the following:
Resistance to additional income taxes would be even more widespread if people were aware that:
One-third of all their taxes is consumed by waste and inefficiency in the Federal Government as we identified in our survey. Another one-third of all their taxes escapes collection from others as the
underground economy blossoms in direct proportion to tax increases and places even more pressure on law abiding taxpayers, promoting still more underground economy-a vicious cycle that must be broken.
With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government.
Not one congress then or since passed even one of the recommendations resulting in the problems getting worse and worse until we have the debt to revenue problem of today.
This is probably the root of the Tea Party movement. Do you enjoy your taxes going to those things the Grace Commission discovered?
So if the Republicans are the root cause for all the spending and debt why are the Democrat / Obama lovers so upset that they want to cut spending, reduce debt, and get a balanced budget??? Seems that you should be happy that the Republicans have changed their ways of rubber stamping all the spending. HAH!
If the democrats don't fix the economic disasters the republicans create, who will?
? what are they fixing with their hands out wanting more money to spend? Gun Control not going to be free, let illegals in is not free, heck they could not get the number right on Obamacare and that is a bottomless pit they expect us pay tax payers to cover. -- So what you meant to say was only Democrats can waste our money and Congress should open the flood gates of cash.
A sixteen-year-old boy, an American citizen born in Denver, Colorado, was vaporized by an Obama drone in September without any proof that he had any connection to al-Qaeda...........please tell me how you libs see this as OK??????????????
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Someone should be charged with murder!!!!
No $#it dick tracy. Its the economy stupid. Not the illegal immigration or gays right . What did you expect from an amature. With this amature the road to prosperity is taxing people to death to support his 47% base.
You got that right. Just think people that voted for this guy got taken twice. LMAO