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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio will deliver Republicans' response to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address on Tuesday, GOP leaders announced Wednesday.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., selected Rubio -- an influential Latino conservative who was first elected in 2010 -- to speak for Republicans in their official response to the president's speech.
The State of the Union response slot is often seen as a potential launching platform for politicians who harbor national ambitions; fittingly, Rubio is one of the most-hyped figures in the GOP, and is thought to have designs on the party's presidential nomination in 2016. The honor carries a degree of risk, however: many past figures to deliver their party's response have been panned for their performance.
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Republican Sen. from Florida Marco Rubio speaks at the BuzzFeed Brews newsmaker event in Washington on February 5, 2013.
“I’m honored to have this opportunity to discuss how limited government and free enterprise have helped make my family’s dreams come true in America,” the Florida senator said in a statement. “Limited government and free enterprise are the very foundation of what makes America special and separates us from the world, particularly through our strong middle class. I look forward to laying out the Republican case of how our ideas can help people close the gap between their dreams and the opportunities to realize them.”
Rubio has also helped take the lead recently in working with a bipartisan group of senators to craft a comprehensive immigration reform bill that allows a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. Rubio has worked to sell that legislation to conservatives, just as immigration is sure to figure prominently in Obama's yearly address on Tuesday.
"His speech will focus on the Republican Party's agenda to grow the middle class," a Rubio aide said. "Immigration will likely be mentioned as one way to grow the economy, but the speech really is about the Republican Party's commitment to limited government as the best way to help the middle class, and how it differs from the President's plans for bigger government."
"Marco Rubio is one of our party’s most dynamic and inspiring leaders. He carries our party’s banner of freedom, opportunity and prosperity in a way few others can. His family’s story is a testament to the promise and greatness of America,” Boehner said in a statement.
Added McConnell: "Marco Rubio embodies the optimism that lies at the heart of the Republican vision for America. On Tuesday, he will contrast the Republican approach to the challenges we face with President Obama’s vision of an ever-bigger government and the higher taxes that would be needed to pay for it."
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Oh Goody!
That worked out SO well for the last "rising ethnic star" on the right, Bobby Bo Jingles! lol
This is their bright idea of re-branding?
Who will ever forget his infamous "deer in the headlights" delivery..?
Gonna make sure I got plenty of *popcorn* to go around!
Perhaps Rubio will employ the Bachmann strategy of gazing into space as he delivers his speech. And never fear Rubio, if you completely flop, you can run for President and double as the water boy during the Presidential debates. We will also give you your own special title; Rat-CrazyAss Rubio!
Let's see, so far, it's been Jindal, McDonnell, Mitch Daniels, and last year's dynamic duo of Paul Ryan reprising the role of Eddie Munster, black backdrop, low lights, gloomy dark clothes....and the rebuttal to Ryan by Michele Bachmann looking at some unknown spot high up on the wall!
I'm sure Rubio will do a good job for the Republicans, he's very slick. I'm just interested in hearing how lower taxes for the rich are going to lead to deficit reduction and job-creation, since it never has.
Think he'll have charts?
It will be entirely in Spanish
Whats the big deal? Uncle Joe from Greenacres has been trying to rebrand himself for a long time. He already branded his son, Beau "No Regard for Human Safety" Biden
Well, that pretty much settles it, Marco Rubio will NOT be the Republican nominee for President in 2016.
Aside from not being an evangelical christian white male, agreeing to do this is pretty much like agreeing to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated right before the championship game. Its not a guarantee of a loss, but why tempt fate?
Actually, I might have Daniels and Ryan/Bachmann out of order--I think the tag-team duo was 2011.
Just ignore Jay, he has lemons for lunch.
Apparently, the GOPeaParty believes trotting out a (mostly Caucasian Cuban) Hispanic, will so mesmerize those 70+% of Hispanics who voted Democrat in 2012 that they will develop Romnesia about the outright hatred expressed towards them by the remaining 99.9% of the GOPeaParty.
GOPeaParty: Condescension isn't your path to political revival.
Nope Jelly Belly. I save the lemon ones just before I eat the licorice ones
Rubio should beware;
"The Curse of Bobby Jindal" is real...
From hero to zero in one speech...
(Does anyone really watch the "response" as it is simply a canned speech and not a real response to anything.)
Jody/Feisty:
Am loving this AnchorBabyBobby story. Let's let old Bobby Bo speak to those anti-immigrants that want those anchor babies tossed into the ocean as chum for a shark feeding frenzy.
Terrific. Another GOP ethnic token presented to the world.
Will he try the smiling "Mr. Rogers"-like entrance like Bobby Jindal did?
I can hear Chris Matthews already: "Oh, God, not again..."
Why don't I see any of you people spouting off on the articles which deal with the economy? Is people bashing where it is at? Articles about real issues like drones, spending cuts and so forth are always very quiet. Someone going to make a speech? Well, that gets panties in a bunch apparently.
Another thing that is missing is people calling you out as racist. I guess that only applies to one side.
A man with his own plan, instead of a President without one. A very nice change, change we can finally believe in! Just wondering, do you think his budget would get more then 0 votes from his own party.
They would have used Boehner if word hadn't got around that his skin color wasn't gen-yew-whine...
So they'll have to choke back the bile and try not to let any real pigment get on them in the process.
I heard they're pressuring him to finish with the version of "Mammy" they love from comedy night at the Grove...
"Gotta put our best foot forward with a brand new shoe on it, so let's roll out the lightest-skinned sort of lateeny soundin' lady-boy we got and bring this thing home!!"
For anyone who missed the classic Michelle Bachmann response (Kristen Wiig style):
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/snls-michele-bachmann-gets-a-state-of-the-union-response-do-over/
Where have you been? We have been through these issues and we continue to discuss them daily.
If the Republicans run the same type of hard right candidate such as Marco Rubio, in 2016 for President, they will lose again.
Not going to bother watching it - the TeaPublicans have nothing new to say - sometimes you have to read between the lines a little, now that they're "working on their messaging" - but it's still the same old story:
if you're poor it's totally your own fault, and we're rich just because we worked hard, so we deserve to be richer, please let us cut our own taxes. Government doesn't create jobs (police officers, postal workers, road builders, government employees, & school teachers don't have REAL jobs)
Ugghhh.
Can't wait to vote out more ReThuglicans in 2014.
Forward! :-)
Job1 - The crew is being called out on today's threads...better get on that then.
I am not sure where Rubio stands on the political slide in regards to Ryan but you are correct. If the candidate isn't closer to the middle it will be another Repub loss. Religion is their draw and bane.
Notice how MSNBC wont report on the latest Obamacare cost: This is from the Washington Times,
Could the GOP be any more obvious! I wonder if the "token Cuban" has any idea how they really feel about him? To be so obviously falling all over themselves to prove to the Hispanic community that they really, really like them is really nothing more than a slam to the community and you can bet your ass that most if not all see this little game for what it really is.....A Sham!
As far as I've seen posted on these boards, most of the Righties want the Mexicans thrown out, legal or otherwise.
As an American I will not vote for one of Castro's brothers for President of the United States of American !!!
Go ahead make jokes, laugh about it all you want... but...
Marco Rubio will be the next president of the United States...
Take that... Mitches!!
Bobby Jingles and Marco Pubio. What a couple of duds! He can chit chat all he wants at the Latinos but it won't work. They had him figured out a long time ago and besides that he's a cornball Republican. Won't work buddy. Go away.
After rubio gives his little speech, will Donald Trump ask him for his birth certificate.
This is actually pretty funny with you libs. You're making fun of his race, you're making fun that a minority belongs to the republican party, you're making false accusations about how republicans feel about latinos, you're laughing because he will fail.
The hypocrisy from you libs is pretty much astounding. It's like reading a thread that you accuse the right of writing!
“Limited government and free enterprise are the very foundation of what makes America special and separates us from the world, particularly through our strong middle class. I look forward to laying out the Republican case of how our ideas can help people close the gap between their dreams and the opportunities to realize them.”
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This is what Senator Rubio said...though what has been the GOP practice reads something closer to the effect of:
"...I look forward to laying out the Republican case of how our ideas are first and foremost the 'real' American ideas and second, while you're busy chasing the fantasy of how to close the gap between your dreams and the opportunity to realize them, the GOP will utilize our version of "limited government" and "free enterprise" to make sure YOU help us realize ours.
Maxx - not a chance in hell! Rubio has already shown he can't take a firm stand on anything but will, instead go wherever the nutcases of the Tea Party tell him to go. He's useless and won't EVER be President!
AlexM- no one is making fun of Rubio's race - we're making fun of Rubio for being Rubio - dumb as a box of rocks and not afraid to show it!
seaskip - that WAS sarcasm, right????
Well, I read all of the crap from Feisty and her merry band of liberal lemmings, and while I am impressed by their ability to create such a large cesspool of hateful vitriol, I can't seem to find one fact....or even allegation of one....to demonstrate that Rubio is not exactly as he appears... intelligent, eloquent, and obviously much more widely knowledgeable than the inept fool currently occupying the whitehouse.
Jayfos
Notice how MSNBC wont report on the latest Obamacare cost: This is from the Washington Times,
Maxx the moocher: "laugh all you want". OMG! I am literally laughing so hysterically right now that I have tears of laughter! Somebody ought to break it to you gently, dear Maxx. Rubio will never be president of the U.S., and neither will Paul Lyin Ryan, so make your peace with it cuz it ain't gonna happen.
Oh, man that was some great laughter!
Oh, hey there Spider, keep looking. How about the fact that for over a year, Rubio was using the tax payer credit card for his own personal expenditures? When he got caught, of course he used the moronic excuse. I'll let you do the rest of the research on that little mishap. As I said to the Moocher, Rubio will never be president. Ever.
Obviously being a libtard I would never vote for the likes of the Rube, but I could not stand to hear or watch him talk. There is something very unpalatable about that man's mouth and voice. He lacks the charisma. He doesn't have that "sit up and take notice" way about him. Sorry, the guy is a loser, and a thief.
Sorry about that, it was just a joke, SS #1.28, loosen up !!!
Birth certificate please!
Oh, The Washington Times. A right wing rag!
For those right wonders who think small government is the answer. Answer this, Can you name one small government country that is successful in any way?
No doubt his canned response has already been written for him...why not just have Rush Limbaugh read it and cut out the middle man?
"On Tuesday, he will contrast the Republican approach to the challenges we face with President Obama’s vision of an ever-bigger government and the higher taxes that would be needed to pay for it."
That's the key difference between Republicans and Democrats - a bigger government means bigger taxes, and the current REAL cost of government spending is being hidden with Deficit financing, which cannot go on indefinitely.
Look, this is really simple.
If we want to have all of these 'free' services from the government, then PAY FOR IT.
We are currently spending about $3.8 Trillion per year, and we are taking in about $2.7 Trillion per year, which leaves a Deficit of about $1.1 Trillion per year. If we want to keep spending at that level - THEN PAY FOR IT, and then the real cost of government will not be hidden with borrowed money - sending the bill to our children and grandchildren. It's GROSSLY UNFAIR to hide the real cost of current spending with 'Borrowed Money'. It doesn't work with our personal finances, and it doesn't work with the government (just ask Greece).
It will cost the average family of 4 about $14,000 per year in new taxes ($1,165 per month) to finance the current extra deficit spending of $1.1 Trillion, but hey - if that's what you want, THEN PAY FOR IT.
So Seeking Sanity, people as smart as you will never be Senator? If you can believe the President that your taxes will not increase, then your employers have been withholding taxes from your recent paychecks illegally. If you don't like Obamacare, you can keep your own Insurance. That's why 7 million workers will lose their coverage to start. Wait until Obamacare kicks in to see some real tax increases. Obama says that he will raise taxes more because he needs more revenue, do all you worshippers believe that it will only be the Rich that will pay more? Why are you liberals so naive? Or are you all in a self induced coma?
seaskip - I thought it was a joke and was kinda funny. But, with the right wingers on here I had to check - one of them might have seriously MEANT it! LOL
spider - if YOU were intelligent, knowledgeable or eloquent you would know our current President is all of those things. But, when you are fundamentally lacking all of those characteristics, of course you don't comprehend that.
h engbers - your entire post is nonsense. Try again and this time have someone who is lucid write the post!
AND HERE IS WHAT IS IN THE STARS FOR US WITH OBAMACARE... A LESSON FROM THE UK
Five hospital trusts are to be investigated over their mortality rates following the publication of the inquiry into mistreatment and neglect of patients at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust.
An immediate probe is to be launched into Colchester Hospital University NHS Foundation Trust, Tameside Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, Blackpool Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust, Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust and East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust.
The news follows Robert Francis QC's scathing report which laid bare the events at Stafford Hospital between 2005 and 2009, and which called for a "zero tolerance" approach to poor standards in the health system.
The Department of Health put cash over patient care, the report into the unnecessary deaths of up to 1,200 patients concluded.
Johntho...good point...answer is factually no. Last years fourth quarter GDP numbers show just how bad "small government," really is for us. The GDP contracted unexpectedly because of cuts to the DOD and that doesn't include the so called "Sequester," cuts. The term get ready for deeper pain was articulated multiple times if the Sequester kicks in.
Right Wingers take note of the third paragraph "Rubio is one of the most hyped figures in the GOP." If he really was genuine then why the need for all the "hype?" Add the statement...."His speech will focus on the Republican Party's agenda to grow the middle class," a Rubio aide said. " Note "Republican Party's agenda," not the "People's," or being the "voice of the people," but "Party Ideology." The GOP party's number one problem is "it's all about them," not about what the people want. Statisticians already are projecting a continued "shellacking," come 2014 with Dems slated to become the majority in both houses. The GOP is entirely clueless for the lack of a better term as to why Americans now turn them out/off.
Wow Feisty, speaking of popcorn, I've been munching away and reading all the racist commentary from the "progressive" and "inclusive" party. Thanks for the show!
Obamacare starts hitting the pocket book this year. Wait til next years tax returns get nailed by the IRS, people will finally get what "free stuff" means! Landslide in 2014 for Republicans.
yeah Geo,I cant wait for the people who think Obamacare is free to find out otherwise.Then again,A person has to be working and paying taxes to feel it in the pocketbook.
AlexM- no one is making fun of Rubio's race - we're making fun of Rubio for being Rubio - dumb as a box of rocks and not afraid to show it!
Ah, thanks for putting the lib spin on it so I can understand you!
Go back to chewing your cud.
WRONG... Here are the key differences between Republicans and Democrats:
Repubs believe that a woman's vagina has a self-defense function that prevents conception in the case of rape. Democrats believe in science, and that a vagina has no secret, special, magical self-defense function.
Repubs HATE homosexuals and want them completely eradicated from the planet. Democrats believe that they should have the same rights as everyone else.
Repubs believe that cutting government jobs, thus putting MORE people on unemployment and INCREASING the unemployment rate, will help the economy. Democrats believe that NOT increasing unemployment, and making sure that people still spend money in businesses, will help the economy.
Repubs want to spend MORE in wars and the military. Democrats want to spend less in wars and the military, because we can not afford it.
Repubs HATE poor people and chant for them to "DIE" at their primary debates. Democrats believe that helping poor people will benefit society as a whole, because mass death is generally not a good thing.
Repubs want MORE government in our personal lives, telling women what to do with their bodies and telling everyone else what religion to follow. Democrats want people to have the freedom to make those decisions on their own.
Repubs only respect straight soldiers, while they mock and "boo" gay soldiers. Democrats respect all soldiers.
Repubs believe that a tax plan where the top 1% pay LESS than 1% in taxes is "fair". Democrats believe that the top 1% should pay their fair share, and contribute to the system that allowed them to gain their money.
Repubs believe in trickle-down, supple side economics... where the rich will use the extra money you give them to hire people, instead of keeping it themselves (contrary to human behavior). Democrats believe that people are greedy, and the rich will just keep the money themselves (30 years of historic proof). Thus, Democrats believe in demand side economics, where higher demand from consumers will produce more jobs to fill that demand.
Hope that helps
Obama has done more to destroy the middle class then any previous President. Median income down over $3,000 in his Presidency, so far. What happened to Unions under his watch, lowest enrollment in generations. So keep your head buried, theres less then 4 years left til things will finally start to get better. 1 bad year under Bush and 4 bad years under Barrack. Keep making excuses.
[Median income down over $3,000 in his Presidency...]
Fox "news" talking point, and everyone (except you, apparently) knows:
FOX "news" LIES
Mary post 141, WoW. I read your post twice and still couldn't tell, and had to go back to my post to see what you were talking about. Was that a senior moment or what. Well said, even tougher times coming and they will blame it on the president. However, it is congress that has to pass a budget. The president can't do it. We need to retract, I agree with that, and really so do most democrats. Just the defense cuts alone will devastate the Military/industrial complex. Lots of people looking for work.
I think if we take a serious look at how we got here we could see it was both fiscal irresponsibility, but also the tax cuts that have happened in the last 30 years. The government is instrumental in keeping America working. If you don't fund the government, you cut corners on things like infrastructure, teachers, cops, firemen, and any one that WORKS for the city, state or federal government, and society as a whole suffers. Since wages of CEO's have dramatically rose and workers wages have stayed essentially the same since 1980, there is a problem with demand. Republicans talk all the time about income redistribution it has happened, it started in 1980
@ Alaska Girl
Menendez is so honest. rotflmao
Geo's next post, here I will do it for you Geo, Blah, blah blah, blah-blah, blah.
There Geo, you can give it a rest now, nobody buys it.
mguy-478, Point, no counter point, no matter how they could spin it. Spot on.
Johntho
You hit the nail on the head.
It's quite simple, really. When CEOs continue to hold more of the money, that is money that will NOT be spent by consumers, on their products.
The top 1% has seen their share of income grow by over 800% over the last 30 years. The rest (middle and poor class) have seen their share decline, given inflation. So continue that trend... plot it out, forecast it. Keep drawing that trend line out, over the next couple of decades. Eventually, the top 1% will have all the money. When that happens, what money will be left for everyone else to buy their products/services? How long will a "job creators" business last with no customers?
THAT is what Republicans want... to reward the rich by giving them more and more money. The problem with that strategy is eventually they have all the money, and there is nothing left for anyone else to spend in their businesses.
Simple statistics... just plot out the current trend.
@mguy
That is hilarious. I seem to remember those caring, empathetic, wanting to help, Liberals pelting our soldiers with rocks, bottles, and you name it, when they returned home from Viet Nam.
Mickey, NY "[Median income down over $3,000 in his Presidency...] - LIES"
Data compiled by Sentier Research found that since the economic recovery technically began in June 2009, median household income has dropped 5.7 percent. As of August, that median income was $50,678 -- also down 1.1 percent from the month prior.
And since Obama took office in January 2009, the median income has fallen 8.2 percent, from $55,198 to its present figure.
Let's see in 2009 = $55,198
Now it is $50,678
That's a drop of about $4,500 under Obama's 'stewardship'.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Jay are you sure you remember. That would put you right up there with me in age.
Jay
Sorry gramps, I wasn't old enough to remember that. But I do remember how YOU republicans treated a soldier LAST YEAR.
What this really means is "We got our a$$es handed to us in the last election because Hispanics see we're a joke. So maybe this guy, Rubio, can convince some of his julio friends to take another look at us!"
What strong middle class? You mean the one the banks wiped out a couple of years ago? You mean the middle class that is stuck on food stamps and public housing, while the Federal Government did not change standards to meet all these new people? You must mean those people that Republicans hate because they are bottom feeders who abuse the system?
Where on earth did you get that from? One of the biggest myths of the Vietnam War. No one threw anything at returning soldiers, nor did they spit on them. That's a lie cultivated in the minds of the far right and has been so distorted over the years. I was one of those "liberal protesters" you seem to know so much about. We never did anything against or protested the soldiers fighting the war. They were our friends, relatives and neighbors. It was the oppressive, lying government fattening the defense contractors wallets that was the focus of the anger. Hell, many of the guys who came back joined us as they knew what a farce it all was. If you want to point a finger, start with the WW II and Korean War vets who lobbied Congress to deny VA benefits, calling the Vietnam vets sissies because they were losing the war, and to deny methadone to those who came back as heroin addicts.
Mguy, a guy I worked for one time said it best and something I will always remember. He said "you get a little, I get a little, those at the top get a little more, everybody's happy. But let one of us get greedy and nobody is happy." This is what has happened. It really is class warfare and it was declared by Ronald Reagan in 1979 when he leaned out over the podium and said "liberal was a four letter word" shortly after that he was elected he cut taxes and set this whole thing in motion. We are 16 trillion in debt because of the start he give us. There was one bright spot in the last 30 years and that was Bill Clinton. He got a balanced budget out of a borrow and spend republican congress. It didn't take Bush very long to end the prosperity achieved during Clinton's second term. He had it turned around in less then four years.
So you get all your 'truth' from the WH Bulletin Board aka NBC NEWS and FR? Im sure you really believe it to be honest & truthful. I have some lake front property in the BlackRock desert right next to your Freakfest, cut you a good deal.
Mickey, NY
I live in the south and all they have is Rush radio.......I get to listen to it everyday.....Fox and Rush.....They are so filled with hatred. The other day I was thinking, as I mocked the "fair and balanced" statement they make about every 15 minutes, and started wondering what would happen if someone sued Fox News for misrepresentation......It would be funny to see a court of law determine them as misrepresenting themselves like the free credit report guys.....LOLZ....
Caesar Augustus-
I use treasury department and labor department for my facts....I use c-span...you know real government at work.....Maybe you should try it instead of acting like a moron on these blogs. You lack factual or unbiased opinions and maybe you should actually look at something real instead of what some biased news caster is saying.
“Limited government and free enterprise are the very foundation of what makes America special and separates us from the world
Republicans don't believe in small government. They may talk about it but they don't believe in it. George W. Bush and his Republican Congress expanded the power of the federal government more than any LBJ. Republicans what to tell people what kind of birth control they can use, want to dictate medical procedures for women, want to control what science can report -- they just LOVE BIG GOVERNMENT.
Peter, back in 2003 Fox "news" fought for their right to lie to its viewers in a Florida court, and won. Fox was sued by two of its local affiliates employees for breaking a story on growth hormones and steroids in milk being served to school children, and were told to rewrite the story without the references to the growth hormones and steroids being in the milk. The employees refused citing journalistic integrity, and were promptly fired. They sued to get their jobs back, and Fox' defense was that they are not bound by any "law" that prevents them from misleading the public in their so called "newscasts".
So, what's apparent to me, is that FOX "news" LIES.
What's also apparent is that our boy Caesar here has no integrity, and he hates himself for it.
I live in Florida, and after reading this article I was trying to think of what good Rubio has done for my state. Couldn't think of anything, so I googled "Marco Rubio political accomplishments". Some links came up that had the words "Rubio", "political", and "accomplishments" in them, but after checking the first 30 or so links, I saw nothing about any "Marco Rubio political accomplishments".
So next I googled "Marco Rubio scandals". Wow. There's a lot of reading there. Check it out.
Hey COinFL: I followed your lead and loooked in on Rubio. The only thing on the web is stupid idiots like you who stretch rubber bands trying to link somebody to something they had no part in, but because they were within 500 miles of something they must be involved. You poor misled, warped, far left crazies will believe anything written about the republican party yet ignore REAL scandelous creeps like your MESSAIH. Marc Rubio never rubbed elbows with ANYONE like Bill Ayers, the bomber. You people are disgusting.
Peter Dean I look at my paycheck and take home pay!!!! Obama is killing me!!! Less take home pay, higher gas prices and higher food prices. I don't know what planet you live on but it's not here!!!
imnotlost and scottyconner - related are you? Both are total idiots. Yes Scotty, blame the gas and food prices on the President. You are a blithering idiot but hey, you've got a friend in the lost one!
Marco Rubio is being pushed to the forefront and is being used as a mouthpiece for the Republican Party. However, if you listen to him discuss his ideas...IF YOU LISTEN TO HIM...you will hear what amounts to some very confused and irresolute thinking. When asked incisive questions, he reveals that he really doesn't know much...but he keeps talking anyway, further revealing that he's a very confused young man.
So, Speaker Boehner, if, as you indicate, Marco Rubio is one of the brightest stars in the Republican Party, then the Republicans are in more trouble that you think.
Sorry insanity but the truth hurts, Obama took a big chunk out of my pay!!!
What I said was true, you poor illiterates just can't comprehend the truth. So what, one of the women involved in the Petraeus scandal last fall (2012) happened by a 2010 fund raiser and got her picture taken with Rubio and therefore he must be involved in a scandal that didn't happen until two years later. You people must have sawdust for brains. It's a known fact that Obama was friends with Ayers AFTER the creep planted his bombs, but you just don't care. You believe lies on the republicans and ignore the truth on your rotting democrats. The stench is naseating. Someday you'll eat that rotten meat.
scott - nope, President Obama has nothing to do with your pay being cut. Try again insane!
lost - the illiterate one here is you and you show it every time you post. Obama served on a board with Ayers - and he wasn't even born when Ayers was part of the SDS you stupid idiot. They were never friends - just acquaintances. You have no idea of the background of everyone you meet. You are a total fool!
You don't have a brain in your thick skull but you try to make believe. You stupid idiot - the stench is all yours.
imnot lost -- "The only thing on the web is stupid idiots like you who stretch rubber bands trying to link somebody to something they had no part in"
Hey, I was just suggesting some good reads. It's not stretching to point out that Rubio misused campaign funds for personal gain, has relatives involved with drug traffickers, hugged up to that military skank socialite, was Mormon then turned Catholic, lied about his family's immigration situation, etc, etc, etc. A lot of little things can illustrate a bigger character flaw.
But the real point I was trying to make is that I cannot think of anything good he has done for the state of Florida. Can you point out anything good?
Wow...change the word Rubio to Obama and, except for a few other words, sounds like our current president.
QXZsmith - only if you're completely dumb do you see our President as interchangeable with Rubio!
mr. Rubio, leave the demons of the republican party and save your soul.
Geo, say hello to glen beck for me. it obvious you've been listening to him. one bad year under bush". Really? just for shts and giggles, go watch the 2004 debate between Cheney and Edwards. and listen carefully to what Cheney says when Edwards says the economy is in trouble. And then take Cheney's words and choke on them. "metaphorically speaking".
COinFL: OK I blew my stack twice tonight and won't do it again, but I will respond to your latest post. You said:
The FEC looked into it as you know and did not recommend prosecution. Improprieties are not necessarily crimes, if they were most of Congress would be in jail. It's also unfair to link him to his relatives' behavior, and his switching religion should have nothing to do with his credibility. Don't know why he would think lying about his parents would help him, he knew the truthers would find him out.
Rookies in Congress have no clout and are always used as pawns for major bills. It takes time to work into the system and become effective. I wish Rubio were my Senator, one of ours is retiring after 30 some years and I could count on one hand the bills he sponsored for us. I think Rubio will be a better Senator down the road.
I don't count disaster relief, every state gets that. Kind of automatic. Roads, bridges, business loans etc. are what counts.
george pauljohn - Bush only had 1 year with unemployment over 6%, his last. Remind us again how long Unemployment has been over 7.8%! And congratulations on the last quarter of neg. growth. I mostly watch MSNBC, for laughs of course.
The moment after I first heard a Marco Rubio speech, which was back in the 2008 elections, I knew I was listening to a future Presidential candidate. Very charismatic and well spoken individual.
"I am honored to be the token minority in the Republican party that will deliver a speech to try to stem the GOP hatred in this country with over 70% of the hispanic vote going democrat last year."
BTW, I think Rubes would do very well in a general election. However, he has that small problem that the day the republican party nominates anything other than a rich, white male will probably be the same day we find the lost city of Atlantis.
tonybeeerm,
YOU LIE! I was one of the Nam guys, and I remember how I was treated all to well, the Greyhound station in San Francisco, and the airport there. If we were not under orders not to touch you protesters unless you made physical contact, I would have ripped your head off and pissed down your neck, and you knew it. I couldn't believe I was in the good ol USA, maybe still in some foreign land. Same thing when I got back from my European tour in Philadelphia. Then I was shunned in college any time I wore my old Army field jacket, but it was what I had to wear, some of us weren't fortunate like you were. The only camaraderie I could find was in the military science department, Advanced Army ROTC, those Officers and NCO's treated me like a real person. So, don't spew your excuses, I was there, I'll call you on it! And no, don't try to be nice, and say you have a change of heart just because parameters have changed.
RoyWilson- excellent posts, I notice none of the haters on this site have the ability to reach down and grab a pair to challenge your info. As one of the people taxed to death in a liberal run State,I am tired of it and I think if taxes are raised again others will be too. Spending has been irresponsible on both sides so the blame is equal, what is happening now with shrinking revenues, less take home for median income earners and higher taxes is bad policy under the current administration. Example-Baltimore is broke they have th highest taxes in the state, they tax soda and juice higher, ciggarettes and alchohol higher, red light cameras,highest property taxes for individuals and businesses in the state, yet they are still broke. This is a city run by liberals, and this is the result, raising taxes is and growing government is not the answer.
Andy Blackwood - you're full of it!
Get used to Sen. Rubio (FL). He'll be around awhile.
Obama's pre election 2nd Amendment stance, versus his, almost viral, post election stance.
Will probably toast past Governor Crists chance to challenge him for the FL Senate seat in two years.
Reverses of advertised electoral policy, have their price. FL. is a pro 2nd state.
I think it was a good call on the part of the Republicans to put forward Sen. Rubio for this speech.
But does the White Sheet Wing of the Republican party consider him to be human?
I guess they've got the responce written for him already.
geo-1957883
Don't let facts stand in your way........GWB left office hemorrhaging 750K jobs a month.....How moronic do you have to be to not understand what that means? Try labor and treasury department for your "facts" and then you might have something real to say.
Marco Rubio is one of our party’s
most dynamic and inspiring leaders. guys with an Hispanic last name. Let the re-branding of the Republican Party begin!Rubio is slick and their chosen boy. Kinda like Justin Beeber who sucks at singing but was just marketed well, same concept. But until the GOP changes mentality of all in for the 1% and corporate amercia they will get smoked at the polls over and over by the people who work every day.
Hasta La Vista Senior Rubio.........
That is how Obama got elected? I get it now. No wonder I had a problem voting for him. I've avoided pop music where ever I could since the mid-sixties. I want to be challenged musically. Therefore Zappa was there for those who could actually form a thought back then and now
Jay: " I've avoided pop music where ever I could since the mid-sixties.'
Finally - something we can agree on! "Pop music" nowadays is almost as much an oxymoron as "soft rock" was in the 80's.
And hey, get off my damn lawn, you little whippersnappers! :)
Amy - Funniest post of the day - and love the new avatar!
And millions of our Mexican-American citizens will ask in unison... "They know we're not from Cuba,...right?
It's sort of like cheezily and transparently targeting a group of people for something you want from them in a way that makes it clear you think they're all stupid, and your big planned move is to flip them off...
The only way these republicans could be more stupid was if they stayed that way...
I wonder what year Rubio will say his parents came to this country.
lol at Steeler Fan. I hear his team has been very busy web-scrubbing. Maybe he'll figure out when and why the folks exactly hopped the pond by the time Uncle Jeb tells him he can run.
It's sort of like cheezily and transparently targeting a group of people for something you want from them in a way that makes it clear you think they're all stupid, and your big planned move is to flip them off...
Are we talking about Rubio or Obama?
Yeah, and let's not any of us forget that little Rubio likes to play with the tax payers' credit card.......oh, but wait, that's not my personal credit card? Oh, silly me! My bad.
Oh, toto, you are humorous, I'll give you that. Obviously we are talking about Rubio the Rube. I guess you don't keep up so much with how your party is on a big pandering campaign to try and reshape their image..........LOL Good luck with all that. So transparently obvious to all who choose to see it. Others such as you......not so much.
Really starting to think it's getting kind've wierd, to group together all Mexicans/Cubans/Puerto Rican's/Columbians/etc into Hispanics.
Anyone else feel it's kind've a broad group that is being squished together into one?
chowchig - to the GOP they all look alike!
This is just getting crazy, Marco Rubio comes to the U.S.A., On a banana boat from Cuba and now hes running for President of the United States of America, God help or Nation because we are sliding into the sea towards the Cuban Islands !!!
I want to see his birth certificate!!!
Oh, I forgot. Let's insist on seeing Rubio's birth certificate..........
AlaskaLady, I think Rubio is a Birth-er !!!
GOP is trying to get the Hispanic vote with a Clown !!!
AlaskaGirl, maybe rubio and obama could trade Birth certificates as well as school transcripts.
Yup Maynard said it best in one of his songs
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
Bull$hit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless fricking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fricking time. Any fricking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.
Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.
It's a
Bull$hit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks
Here in this hopeless fricking hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fricking time. Any fricking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.
Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dip$hits.
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this
Silly $hit, stupid $hit...
One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.
Learn to swim.
Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.
Learn to swim.
Frick L Ron Hubbard and
Frick all his clones.
Frick all those gun-toting
Hip gangster wannabes.
Learn to swim.
Frick retro anything.
Frick your tattoos.
Frick all you junkies and
Frick your short memory.
Learn to swim.
Frick smiley glad-hands
With hidden agendas.
Frick these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.
Learn to swim.
Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.
Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.
I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend.
I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.
West of the Cascades would be fine by me
Seaskip you have a brain skip
Alaskagirl,ALL politicians use the tax payers money.ALL of them.
[Marco Rubio is one of our party’s
most dynamic and inspiring leaders. guys with an Hispanic last name]Hispanic?!? I thought he was Italian! With the way he embellished his family's emigration history, you thought he'd come over with Cristoforo Columbo.
Yep its blatant pandering, but lets be honest, it worked so well with Obama, so why not.
You know what they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Or what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
As far as transparency, its was obvious when Obama did it, as it is now. No shocker, its been going on forever. Or are you just noticing it now because the Republicans are doing it?
You got that one right thetotas.Rubio can't hide his past like Obama did.Funny how it doesn't work both ways.
I thought all the crazy birthers had crawled back under their rock? Wow, wolfhound, you sure are one of a can't die fast enough breed. Oh, BTW, I guess you were busy jacking off, but the president released his long form birth certificate to appease the crazy people in this country. Newsflash: He was born in the 50th state(look it up to see the state), and school records are sealed by the institutions themselves and are not part of running for president of the U.S. What is normal is to provide at least 3 years or more of income tax returns, but the Cons just don't like doing that. Oh, gee, a name comes to mind! Mitt Romney! How'd that all work out for y'all? LOL Oh, and another BTW: the credit card issued is for official expenditures not personal expenditures such as suits and ties, groceries, etc. He got called out on it and finally fessed up.
Let's see the birth certificate, Rubio!!!
almost like Obama too? You stuck your head in the fan blade...
Just curious Micks, as you type this stuff are you wearing your white satin sheets or is that for the weekend jamborees?
Thats ok you'll but, but, but...How do you put it, how the mighty has Fallen.
@ Joanne
I've always embraced progressive rock & jazz. If your into that stuff, there is an incredible band called Porcupine Tree. Also their originator, Steven Wilson has a new album coming out on 2/25/13. This guy has taken Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Yes, King Crimson and others to another level right here in 2013. There is quite a bit of his stuff on utube
[almost like Obama too?]
Caesar...putz...you're off the rails again, my little coward. So, tell me...did Rubio embellish his emigration history or not. Be careful how you answer...the cameras are rolling.
AlaskaGirl,Your last comment showed how ignorant and childish you really are.Jacking off.Really? is that a mature comment?You claim to be a member of a progressive party,yet you can stay on here all day and bash anyone who disagrees with you.(so much for being progessive)You are more intolerant than the people you bash on.(so much for liberal)The word is hippocrite in case you haven't heard it.Obviously you don't practice what you preach.
alessergirl: you get your info from BSNBC don't you. You are so clueless and uneducated and it shows. You and all these liberal dumb-asses on here need to take the tinfoil caps off and then the satin pillowcase head gear and research more than just this site....and whatever you do don't listen to rachel madcow!! And for the usual village idiots on this site, Thanks for the entertainment , especially the constant stroking of each others ignorant posts! Pathetic trolls you are, hope you're not breeding!
Marco Rubio is the GOP token Hispanic just as Michael Steele was their token black.
wolfhound - you are really stuck on stupid aren't you? The birth certificate, school transcript nonsense, REALLY????
Your ignorance is overwhelming. Aren't you even a little bit embarrassed to show it off for all to see?
Marco Rubio will be well practiced in his cliches and platitudes, but if he runs in 2016 Democrats will only have to ask him for the specifics of his plans to prove that he has nothing to offer.
Just love all the name calling back and forth like grade school class room when the teacher steps out. By the way you are all part of the problem and have provided no solutions to the current political and fiscal problems. Another fine example of leadership from behind by this blog. By the way when is the moderator going to clean up the filthy comments from Feisty and Alaska Girl here? Not to mention the personal attacks in every other post. What happened to the rules of engagement on this blog? I guess the rules are only meant for one side of the discussion. Nice to see how both extremes elevate the conversation to such high minded levels. I will check back later to see if the teacher returned.
Next.
unoitall- what utter nonsense. Do you even have a clue what you're mumbling about because after reading your post none of the rest of us do! Please, stay a Republican. The GOP is the PERFECT place for someone like you - clueless and vague!
Notsosure10 - and I see YOUR criticism is only for one side of the discussion. Can you say Hypocrite???? Do you even partially understand what it means? Didn't think so!
I understand that the republicans who post here are very unhappy people, which explains their posts. What I don't understand is why my fellow liberals give any of these trolls and credence at all.
This is America, people are allowed to live in any fantasy land they choose. When you give them silly facts, they feel very threatened. they react with insults and name calling. they make stuff up just too try to get under your skin and to relieve their own migraine. it's sad in one way, but then funny at the same time.
"silly facts" George, really????? You won't get ANY facts here on NBC, it's a visit to fantasy land for those of us that actually do our own research and not regurgitate the swill fed to them by the left program. Lapdogs, although I shouldn't insult my own lapdog at least he works for his keep.
Yup, none of that stuff going on anywhere else ... what pandering to navel gazing idiots.
You mean the middle-class the GOP is desperately trying to destroy. How much of the middle class will soon be unemployed as the USPS cuts back on jobs and services? I dare say, it isn't going to be pretty.
Yes, thank ranks right up there with the 57 states line, or the Corpse discussion. Or how about the Nancy speech on how the bill needs to be passed before we can see what's in the bill.
Both sides have their moments. Why review those, instead, what is on the horizon that will cost the taxpayers more? Lord knows we have inconsistant government presently.
Hold on there bucko! You mean to tell me you all actually have free markets over there? I was wondering how you all came up with Land Rovers, Guiness, Glaxo-Smith-Klein, Rolls-Royce, BP, etc.
The government as a whole is destroying the middle class.Neither party could do it alone so it takes a combined effort.The American people have voted and that is pretty much the end of voter participation.It's back to politics as usual and agendas for both parties as usual.
Blackcatwhitecat. actually our founders set up a TARIFF system which is why there was no federal income tax until we got well into the 20th century. Free markets where invented by the same fools that took us off the "gold standard". That would be Nixon who was controlled by Kissinger, who was the spokesman for the foundation families. A real republican named teddy Roosevelt worked very hard to set regulations on corporations which led to prosperity the world had never seen before. the Nixon, reagan, Bush sr. Clinton and Bush jr. team, screwed that all up.
So it was not "small" government that caused prosperity. it was wise government under Teddy Roosevelt and carried on by Theodore Roosevelt and then Eisenhower that gave us the best economy we ever had. A succession of republican and democrat leaders who actually knew how to lead. Not your corporate mumble jumble.
Rubio voted yes on PATRIOT Act extension = not qualified to be president...or a senator for that matter.
He is more Qualified than Obama.
Obama lowered the bar
Maybe so, but is that our new standard? I think we should aim a little higher.
Late for the train.
The Government has been monitering communications since the 40's.The Patriot act only made it public knowledge.
Dingle B, If voting for Obama's Patriot Act, that's right if OBAMA"S PATRIOT ACT disqualifies a person then Obama should quit. You see Bush's Patriot Act expired!!! You Dumb A$$ pres renewed it. What do you say about that!! Kinda makes you look foolish!!
Guess he's just as data challenged as the rest of the Republican party. "Strong middle class"? Rubio and the rest of the Republican Party have decimated the middle class over the past 30 years.
I guess stagnant wages and higher costs for health care, energy, and housing haven't affected any of Rubio's middle class constituents <snark off>.
Really, and just how did the republicans "decimated" the middle-class?
Get a klew numbskull, we are worse than ever, and there has not been a Republican President in five years.
What's a klew?
It's not just political parties that are causing issues with the middle class, it's the various groups who implement policies that make it harder for the middle class to grow. The middle class is filtering more into the lower class and a lot of it is due to mistakes on both sides of the spectrum.
Repubs ran up the debt in the first years of this century. Dems continuing it still.
All rotten to the core...
Same as being frist to post
Publius *......you said:
Apparently, Mr. Multiple Personality, you think (more like HOPE) many of us have forgotten the economic disaster we lived through (becoming symptomatic) in fall of 2008.
The internet has foiled your party's tactic of reinventing history. (Anti-democratic) disenfranchisement is your ticket these days.
@ Jodi
Like me, at our age, we have to search all over the place for these new pronunciations. Damn evolving kids. lol
@ Ian
Its really easy if you just look. Carter implemented the economic collapses problem and Clinton blew it wide open. He was warned of the outcome in 1996. Glad he listened for all of us
Jody, Iowa
"What's a klew?"
You may have just broken the case Jody!!! The real answer as two why the repugnican party has accomplished well less than nothing to benefit actual Americans for the past several years... They were inadvertently grasping at a "klew" due to their rudimentary understanding of the english language!!
They're not lazy, sold-out, racist dirt-bags of a bygone era... They're not self-involved pr!cks too stupid to understand their own oaths... They're not boot-licking, graft-grubbing opportunists sucking the life out of the American way and extracting all the juice from their own misbegotten constitchencies!!!
It's all just been a misunderstanding... A typo!... Now that you've drawn it to their collective attention, the cumulative I.Q. of 114 ought to lead them right over to "clue"... Where they will undoubtedly get one, not like it, ask for another, say it's beneath them, claim that clues in and of themselves mean nothing, claim to have had one before and it not working out, claim to have liked one before but had to go against it because it wasn't controversial enough, and finally claim the slogan that "Clues are for Democrats... We deal in facts!"
At which point they will return to their slumber as if nothing at all had transpired...
I'm sorry Jody... You nearly had them there.
Jay-1891719.......
That "blotter" rewired your reality. You may know what you intend to say. No so for others. Perhaps a spiritual medium would be helpful.
I never touched that cheap "blotter" you brain deads were taking. And i do have faith, that the sun will come up tommorrow. I know exactly what I was saying. The part I did leave out, was that GWB didn't fix it either. Both of them are to blame, but one introduced us to that point of history. I don't belong to a party, so I don't have to use the internet to change the history. Its all right there
As long as we have political leaders who are more interested in party agendas and special interest groups and NOT the American people we will always have problems.
"Rubio and the rest of the Republican Party have decimated the middle class over the past 30 years." I didn't know that Rubio was in politics when he was 11. That's how old he would have been when he started to decimate the middle class.
Why do we keep saying the government is destroying the middle class? I always thought that the middle class was the working class and most were proud of that. You have to have a group willing to work to make a working/middle class.
They decimated that middle class by taking us off the gold standard and deregulating corporations. Any questions?
So, the REpublicans love Rubio this week. Does anyone remember Herman Cain? Rick Perrry? Sara Palin? It sure doesn't take much for the REpublicans to put you on a pedestal, now, does it? ANd it sure doesn't take long for them to falll offf, either.
Jay-1891719........you said:
Yeah....you left that out. The omission must have been an "oversight".
But, in any case, GWB's culpability went far beyond "didn't fix it". He PRESIDED OVER IT (the housing bubble, that is). It was his stimulant prescription for the U.S. economy that he KNEW FULL WELL would result in a CRASH. The problem (for Republicans) was that the GWB time-bomb went off (about 6 months to a year) prematurely.
President Carter inherited "stagflation" from the Nixon/Ford regimes. He (and Paul Vocker) fixed it, albeit at the risk of the S&L crisis and cost of a 2nd term. President Reagan sat idly by as S&L CEO's turned an American bedrock business (S&L's) into vast "Ponzi schemes" which fabulously enriched his Republican cronies. But, then too, it blew up in their faces.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive!" -- Scott
Americans had pretty much forgotten (or, been duped) about chronic Republican malfeasance by 2000. Hence, GWB was (s)elected. But, that was before the internet matured into our national memory. Now, we (Americans) are not so easily deceived. Enter: the Republican new age of disenfranchisement (aka demolition of democracy).
Nobody will be able to stay awake for all of little Marco's speech.
60,565,840 of us will.
Publius *
Wow, looks like Rush Limbaugh's dealer has cornered the market on pick-me-ups.
Publis - nah, most of the 60 million plus you're thinking of would NEVER listen to a hispanic person speak.
It will be a very small audience and he won't impress anyone!
It's hard to impress an audience when one is not impressive to begin with. Marco Rubio is in no way impressive.
60 million in a nation of way over 300 million is not alot of people. kinda like when fox says they have the largest audience (about one million twenty nine thousand according to hannity web site) in a nation of 300 million would be what percent? I think that would be .33%. wow , they are really on a roll. lol
Are we worried that Rubio will run for President?
Just think back to Mitt Romney's Republican response speech...
...oh yeah, he didn't give it.
Be careful, Mr. Rubio, that you aren't a designated target for a drone attack by the communist. They have their secret ways of legally killing U.S. citizens.
JPJP funny you bring that up yesterday was a no show for the fiesty one. Couldn't handle the heat. I guess Fiesty couldn't defend the drones.
there is no reason to defend the drones. if an american turns terrorist and is hiding in a hostile nation, dam right we should drone him. i guess your getting soft on terror there buddy.
if you actually read the the dam thing it said only when the person was unattainable through other means. like hiding in Somalia or such.
or maybe you want to defend the american soldier who chucked a grenade into his commanders tent during the bush war in Iraq. maybe you want to set him free? when it first happened you guys where calling for the death penalty, now you want to cuddle him? make up your minds, dam it. lol
I've heard that Feisty is a 'paid contributor' on these boards. Is she paid by MSN, the unions or democrats? It would just be interesting to know.
Now I realize that at some point over the years, "fair and balanced" got in the way of common sense. The media feels the need to give the other side air time, too, ignoring the fact that the President of the United States is required by the Constitution to give a report of the state of the union, from time to time, to Congress. There is no mention of this idiotic ritual of giving the side that lost the presidency the opportunity to speak to the cameras afterward; worse, those "afterward" losing side speeches are pre-taped long before the President's speech is released so often it doesn't even "rebut" what our President says.
oh cry me a river....
Lil Michelle
... a tempting suggestion if we knew your swimming ability, or lack of.
It would be lack of BCWC... never learned to swim!
I was mocking Jody's same comment back to her that she gave me on another post...
Hey Jody, a copy of the speech has been published.
I, for one, simply can't wait to hear what little Ricky Ricardo has to say and witness its massive affect on millions of Mexican-American citizens that see less than no connection to his pale Ricardo familia and feel like someone is trying to slap them in the face by mistaking them for stupid.
What will the GOP do next to impress them?... Maybe dress him up like the Frito Bandito and cover him with some Nacho cheese?
You all act like catty cheerleaders in highschool!
Uh-Oh! Lil Michelle's cover has been broken!
Would you deny the poor republicans a chance to whine and blame? your so mean Jody. your making little Michelle cry now. lol waa waa waaa
I enjoy the name calling, pointing fingers, 'making fun of others' routine seen in the majority of these comments. Entertaining, to say the least... I have to agree with Damyou, feels like high school again!
It would seem that the politicians elected into office are representative of what is seen on this site. People take shots at "Right wing nut jobs" or "Libtards" (not very creative insults...), and you expect Congress and the President to change and come together for compromise? Please...
Mr. Rubio is an elected official by the people, I wish him good luck in his speech, this country needs drastic changes.
Taking away the second and first amendments, jurisprudence shredded along with the constitution, companies continuing their mass exodus off shore escaping the highest corporate tax on the planet, the Roman legion EPA, Unions, and above all Obamacare. 23 Million out of work while companies rain in record profits from Chinese slave labor, banking, and big oil. Al Queda eating our lunch the world over (wait did not Obama proclaim these guys all but defeated). Weapons sales to enemies.
Ya, great job.
Publius - don't you EVER get tired of looking like a complete and utter fool????
@ seeking.The supposed progressive and enlightened party is making even bigger fools of themselves by being the most intolerant and devisive party if you even question their ideas.Unitl the Democrats truly become bipartisan as they claim they will continue to be the best joke around.I know the same could be said for the republicans too but,I don't need to say anything that has already been posted millions of times by intolerant Democrats.
wolfhound27 - the divisive party is the conservative group that hates everyone who isn't filled with hate toward people who aren't just like them - dumb, intolerant, and disgusting. Republicans have no clue what the word "bipartisan" means and you've shown that with your posts today. Your intolerance is worse than any other on this site so stop being so hypocritical!
Seeking Sanity you are so wrong. If a black man is Conservative your people call him an Uncle Tom or House Boy. If you don't like what a person says you try to drown him out or boycot them to shut them up. Am I right or am I wrong? You say your tolerant but your kind is racist and intolerant. I remember when the dems sued so our overseas men and women's vote would not be counted. Remember that, I do Dems are some of the lowest forms of life
scotty - you're a blithering idiot. I don't call anyone an Uncle Tom or a House Boy. That is your stupid way of doing things. MY kind is in no way racist you total fool.
The Democrats HAVE NEVER sued to keep our service men and women's votes from being counted. You truly are a moron. YOU are the lowest form of life - try growing some integrity - yeah, like that's gonna happen with a lowlife gutter dweller like you!
Republicans have become the lowest filth on the planet and you represent them well!
publius, move to Beijing, the air quality is 28 times what our epa considers dangerous. Good thing they don't have an EPA, kids would be able to breath then. whew.
Seekinsanity, thank you, i could not have said that better. :)
So whixch of the Al-Awlaki clan do you REpuiblicans think should have been spared?
Well, they have one thing in common, neither is qualified to be President or VP per the US Constittution as our Founding Fathers took the term (source) "Natural Born Citizen" when drafting the US Constitution in 1787 from Law of Nations (1758). Those who know their 18th Century History knows the common interpertation of Natural Born Citizen at the time was a child born to two (both) parents who are already citizens at the time of the child's birth.
Kurt - funny - no one of importance sides with you on YOUR view of what a Natural Born Citizen is and we all know why!
It's ok for Obama to hide his personal information but,Not Rubio!!!Nopt!! Rubios is not a Democrat so therefore he is not exempt as Obama was.What were you thinking?That Democrats would be fair? dream on sir.
wolfhound27 - see, the party of intolerance and stupidity and you've just proved it. WHAT personal information has President Obama hidden? No other President has EVER been asked to produce his birth certificate but President Obama did for the loons of the far right. Are you talking about his college transcripts? Again, NO other President has EVER produced their transcripts AND all college transcripts are sealed - mine, everyone's. You should what a lowlife loon you are when you post such utter stupidity. And, you say Democrats are divisive? LIAR YOU and your ilk are the divisive ones.
Oh, and I'm a woman - not a sir! Keep up your hypocritical lies - it's all you've got!!!
My goodness, Rubio isn't nominated and already the liberals are attempting to vilify him. But then again, it is the divide and win rule; get on him now to keep him from any meaningful position in the future.
Meanwhile, President Obama was for the sequester, before he was against it. Where have I heard that line before?
LOL, true dat!
And yet you go over to the story about Ashley Judd and her possible run and they are jumping all over Conservatives for doing the very same thing they are here.
Can you say hypocrite?
Ahhh, another darling re-regger chimes in! lol
Strange, I was under the impression Rubio is a sitting Senator..?
Tickity tock... little buddy!
Marco Rubio has been a United States Senator for over two years and before that was in the Florida House of Representatives for 10 years. This thread is about him speaking on behalf of the Republican party, which he has formally been asked to do by the leadership of that party. I'd say that makes him fair game on a political blog.
What office does Ashley Judd currently hold?
Oooh Michelle... How Gangsta!!
Feisty & JoAnne... Do my eyes decieve me or are these "pundits" not privy to common knowledge???
Rubio's not running yet???? Good Gawd! How do you even GET that collectively ignorant?
Thanks for spilling the common knowledge beans out in front of these grazers... But, much like the proverbial horse and water... They'll probably wake up tomorrow hoping Rubio runs for public office one day...
I don't believe that they have started on Hillary yet, formally anyway(since nobody is really sure if she will run). She is a force to be reckoned with and I think they understand the climate well enough to know that if they start hammering on her, they can literally kiss any chance they think they might have of taking back the WH in the 2016 campaign. The GOP seems to be floating Rubio and Ryan(just haven't punished Americans enough with this jerk off) as potential "young guns", trying to appeal to Hispanics and the younger crowds, both of whom they lost way big to this last election cycle.
Alaska Girl,
Who are these folks who pick their spokeperson to do a rebuttal, that really is a taped speech?
Boehner and McConnel or RNC ?
Whoever made the decision is out of touch with Latinos and anyone under 35 yrs of age.
Heard Eric Cantor on the radio today. He is a real piece of work, and wasn't he one of the "youngGuns" organizing a superpac with that name, along with Paul Ryan?
I think in this climate ,the labe with the word "gun" in it is not the best choice.
Apparently, Boehner and McConnell picked Rubio as their chosen one. Remember last time they handed the reins to Lyin Ryan. How pathetic was he, and who will ever forget when Bachmann gave her little rebuttal? That was just classic!
Eric Cantor is a douche, and yes, he and Ryan along with a few others were the "Young Guns", they even had an ad running. They just don't get it.......and they never will.
AlaskaGirl - they'd have a better chance of "floating" fluffy Christie - oh, my bad!
Healthiest fat man we'll ever see. lol
Nope, Jay, even Christie knows his luck is running out on his "healthy" ways. His doctors have told him that he is on the losing end of his luck. If ever there was a "Come to Jesus" moment for someone, it would be Governor Christie. Of course, I think your comment was meant as tongue in cheek humor?
AlaskaGirl - apparently Gov. Christie's doctors have told him his blood pressure and cholesterol are normal. Amazing isn't it???
And liberals are all for smaller military...until they see the effects on GDP and the economy that it will have, then it's suddenly not a good idea.
We don't have a strong middle class. Many of us in the middle class are dropping more into the lower class as more policies and handling by various groups hinder the proper growth that allows the middle class to grow.
@ Jodi
Its an issue now? Seems to me I remember even Gerald Ford got a rebuttal by the opposing party. Damn, I'm old.
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Gee you think they picked him because the GOP wants to win over with the hispanic community? The GOP really makes me ill with all of their underhanded tricks. The GOP is the reason the middle class is going down the drain and the sooner people wake up and vote then all out the better we will be.
@SB--- The same ploy could be said for your beloved potus too. To win over the Hispanic vote he got the ball rolling giving illegal immigrants amnesty, so how does that help the middle class taxpayer? You think that's ok though because, what, Your the tolerant, unhateful party? You want to spread drivel about underhanded tricks? Just mention one side of the coin, your side, but dont dare say anything about your side. hypocrit. BTW, The middle class isn't going down the drain because of the gop. It's down the drain because democrats don't know how to stop spending.
I think based on their history the last few years i could write their response for them. If Rubio and Ryan are their dynamic new leaders they are in trouble for decades to come. I have seen democrats go through the same thing. They have gone from a party with William F. Buckley as their philosophical leader to the tea party. Buckley worried about how to make the country better with a conservative agenda. These boys lead the group that is convinced because they work and pay taxes they are doing more than their fair share and that 47% of the public is riding them. Of course, part of those are disabled veterans and the elderly who contributed their share a long time ago. The only job and money Rubio are interested in are the ones we pay them to do.
William F. Buckley would be disgusted at how the right wing of the republican party has become the anti-intellectual party. Education seems to something that the Tea Party kooks fear because it would actually open some people's eyes to how crazy these people are. So lets keep them dumb and fearful of anything that doesn't look or sound like them. Bet the Tea Party would have called someone like Buckley an elitist and intellectual as if that is a bad word.
rubio will do much more damage than fidel castro ever did to politics in the country,good test for nra when he shoots himself in the foot or puts his foot in his mouth.
Yawn
BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!!! THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT LIFE DOWN HERE!!!!
Vote Tea-Publican !!! and you will live to regret YOUR CHOICE!!!!
THE LATE GREAT AMERICAN EMPIRE!!!
Read and see if you can understand !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul Craig Roberts served in Reagan Treasury Dept, and also worked as editor at the Wall Street Journal. He knows about what he speaks. He described the horrendous economic situation for the US Economy. He puts blame on Wall Street and US Corporate executives who use Asian labor in outsourcing, rendering the US nation of workers poor.
I just can’t get over the Greed of the Rich!! They are not investing in America!! They’re going to wait till Tea-Publicans drive America into the ditch again, and pick up the pieces!!!
America’s problems started August 1971!!
These are things Republicans don't want you to remember!!
With inflation unresolved by August 1971, and an election year looming, Nixon convened a summit of his economic advisers at Camp David. Nixon then announced temporary wage and price controls, allowed the dollar to float against other currencies, and ended the convertibility of the dollar into gold. This meant our money was now worthless!!! Inflationary dollars!!
I hear BUY GOLD!! BUY GOLD!! The only person that will get rich from doing so in the " RICH SELLING THE GOLD!!!! PEOPLE!! PEOPLE!!
The first signs of impending trouble are the exploding budget deficits themselves. They began, of course, under the parlous economic stewardship of Ronald Reagan. Reagan cut the marginal tax rate on the wealthiest of Americans from 70% to 38%. He promised it would spur an orgy of investment and rocket the economy to new levels of production and prosperity. Instead, his supply side economics did the exact opposite. It produced the deepest recession since the Great Depression.
During Reagan's administration, the unemployment rate declined from 7.5% to 5.4%, with the rate reaching highs of 10.8% in 1982 and 10.4% in 1983. Reagan also earned the nickname "the Teflon President", in that public perceptions of him were not tarnished by the controversies that arose during his administration.
Output fell 2.2% in 1982 while budget deficits soared. When Reagan took office in 1981, the national debt stood at $995 billion. Twelve years later, by the end of George H.W. Bush’s presidency, it had exploded to $4 trillion. Reagan was a B grade movie actor and a doddering, probably clinically senile president, but he was a sheer genius at rewarding his friends by saddling other people with debts.
Bill Clinton reversed Reagan’s course, raising taxes on the wealthy, and lowering them for the working and middle classes. This produced the longest sustained economic expansion in American history. Importantly, it also produced budgetary surpluses allowing the government to begin paying down the crippling debt begun under Reagan. In 2000, Clinton’s last year, the surplus amounted to $236 billion. The forecast ten year surpluses stood at $5.6 trillion. It was the last black ink America would see for decades, perhaps forever.
Poppy-Cock.
Let's take a trip down memory lane.
1). One of the tax increases Reagan signed (the Highway Revenue Act of 1982) was a temporary increase in the federal gas tax from 4 to 9 cents. (This could be thought of as a sort of "user fee," inasmuch as the revenue generally went to roads and infrastructure.)
2). Another was a cigarette tax (Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985.) These are real tax increases, but should not be confused with the income tax.
3). The rest of those taxes raised are from loop holes for corporations and raised the corporate tax rate. The Tax Reform Act of 1986 was given impetus by a detailed tax-simplification proposal from President Reagan's Treasury Department, and was designed to be tax-revenue neutral because Reagan stated that he would veto any bill that was not. Revenue neutrality was targeted by decreasing individual tax rates, eliminating $30 billion annually in loopholes, and increasing corporate taxes. The bill reduced overall revenues by 8.9 billion dollars. As of 2012, the Tax Reform Act of 1986 was the most recent major simplification of the tax code, drastically reducing the number of deductions and the number of tax brackets.
Did you neglect the following facts that Reagan lowered taxes for the middle class?
The top tax rate was lowered from 50% to 28% while the bottom rate was raised from 11% to 15%. Many lower level tax brackets were consolidated, and the upper income level of the bottom rate (married filing jointly) was increased from $5,720/year to $29,750/year.
This package ultimately consolidated tax brackets from fifteen levels of income to four levels of income. This would be the only time in the history of the U.S. income tax (which dates back to the passage of the Revenue Act of 1862) that the top rate was reduced and the bottom rate increased concomitantly. In addition, capital gains faced the same tax rate as ordinary income. Some sources claim the loopholes and tax expenditures after lobbying, but others argue the rise in corporate taxes offset any benefit.
The rate structure also maintained a novel "bubble rate." The rates were not 15%/28%, as widely reported. Rather, the rates were 15%/28%/33%/28%. The "bubble rate" of 33% simply elevated the 15% rate to 28% for higher-income taxpayers. As a result, for taxpayers after a certain income level, TRA86 provided a flat tax of 28%. This was jettisoned in the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990, otherwise known as the "Bush tax increase", which violated his Taxpayer Protection Pledge.
All this while defeating the Soviets without shot fired. The deficit sored due to defense spending.
Liberals and their revision of history...
Um no, the USSR collapsed under its own inertia. Reagan, being assured of this by the intelligence community delivered a tear down this wall speech. Reagan's military/policy 'victory' was over the superpower Grenada.
Clinton also set up the banks & hedge funds to trade toxic mortgages that he was warned about in 1996. Just think if he would have listened, instead of splattering his dna all over interns dresses. Want a cigar?
Did that ignoramius just say that Ronny Reagan "defeated the Soviets"??????... I kept trying to read my way down to this monumentally moronic claim but kept nodding off and having to start over...
Wow... Just Wow... I don't even know if an excuse exists for that kind of ignorance and inaccuracy...
On a lighter note... Grenada's entire military-industrial complex still quake in their collective boots whenever they hear a POP! Reagan saved them from a certain... Well they felt saved anyway... After bieng scared and what-not... Lucky they didn't get overrun by the better-armed Contras from Nicaragua... Who got their weapons supplied via Iran by the Reagan Administration.
Do they even teach history anymore?
Betty has been outed.
Grenada got some new roads and a pier after we won the war with them.
They are now a cruise port for all those old retirees from Florida....
What is this poppy cock crap being posted by Phlopius Uranius. Yes folks, poppy-cock because he wrote almost none of it except to that last sentence. Remember, Reagan is also famous for his tax increases.
Grooming a future contender are we? How nice.
Yes, it is nice. Maybe, just maybe, we can finally get a leader that will do something instead of blame someone else like we've had for the last 4 years.
Still Bush's fault no matter how many times you try and deny it.
Obama is the worst President we have ever had. He was by ne means delt a "rough hand", as proclaims. Bush signed TARP into law cleaning up Clinton de-regulation of the banks and the criminal neglect of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. Bush also placed the first Bal-Out funds of $13 Billion into a working escrow account.
Oh, we get the Liberal mantra "we were bleeding 750,000 a month". Well no, it was one month, December 2008. And it was 720,000. Now we have 23 Million out of work. Geez, I'll take the 720,000 at this point.
Obama even had control of the congress, and even a $867,000 Billion stimulus filled with his "Tickle up" policies where he promised us a %5.5 unemployment, a green economy with five million jobs, and a cut in the deficit by half. What did we get? A measly $1 trillion added to the GDP in four years. That will barely cover the stimulus, it will not cover the deficit.
Obama Trickle up policies have translated to a huge failure and losses.
• 23 million Americans are out of work, have stopped looking for work, or are underemployed
• $16 trillion national debt (that's $50,000 for every American)
• 43 straight months of 8% or higher unemployment
• 5 straight trillion dollar budget deficits in a row -- more than any other president combined
More trickle up failues:
18.9% unemployment for Blacks
9.1% for woman,
685,000 woman lost their job and health insurance(who cares about FREE birth control when you do not have health insurance)
The poverty rate for woman has gone up to 14.2% from 7.6%
We have 6 million fewer jobs than 3.5 years ago
3.6 million Residential foreclosures
2.6 million Commercial foreclosures
Over 3.8 million business have gone out of business
38,000 US products moved offshore for manufacturing
The lowest number of patents in 35 years
The highest number of people receiving food stamps in 30 years
A 26% decrease in the value of the dollar
The fewest new prescription drugs in 25 years, 308 prescription drugs in short supply (as of 6/1/11)
Housing values drop 33%
AND HERE IS WHAT AWAITS US WITH OBAMACARE. A LOOK AT THE UK HEALTH SYSTEM...
Five hospital trusts are to be investigated over their mortality rates following the publication of the inquiry into mistreatment and neglect of patients at Mid Staffordshire NHS Foundation Trust.
An immediate probe is to be launched into Colchester Hospital University NHS Foundation Trust, Tameside Hospital NHS Foundation Trust, Blackpool Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust, Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust and East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust.
The news follows Robert Francis QC's scathing report which laid bare the events at Stafford Hospital between 2005 and 2009, and which called for a "zero tolerance" approach to poor standards in the health system.
The Department of Health put cash over patient care, the report into the unnecessary deaths of up to 1,200 patients concluded.
Wow you two are jack @!$%# stupid.
Big Trouble - they are mental - you just have to ignore them!
The two above prove that the Fox Entertainment Complex has a following and they have been entertained, not informed. This is a perfect example of why the GOP has to change not only how they talk about their platform, but what their platform stands for. Right now they are changing their words, not their values. It's embarrassing to see this once great party go down the sewer pipe right before your eyes.
Jeb's gonna be pissed.
Read the 2700 pages, it is full of taxes on the middle class. An abbreviated list of taxes on families and businesses introduced by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), known as Obamacare, totalling more than $500 billion over the next ten years:
How will we survive this??
Excise taxes on charitable hospitals ($50,000 per hospital if they do not meet HHS criteria of "community health assessment needs," billing and collection," and "financial assistance" (PPACA, 2010, pp. 1,961-1,971)
Codify "economic substance doctrine" (IRS will not allow any legal deductions or tax-minimizing plans because it lacks "substance" and is intended to reduce taxes owed); this is a tax increase of $4.5 billion (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2010, pp. 108-113)
"Black liquor" tax on a special bio-fuel (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2010, p. 105)
Tax on innovating drug companies (PPACA, 2010, p. 1,971-1,980)
Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Increase (PPACA, 2010, p. 2,004)
Ten percent tax on indoor tanning (PPACA, 2010, pp. 2,397-2,399)
Medicine cabinet tax disallows Americans to use health savings accounts, flexible spending accounts, or health reimbursement pre-tax money to buy over the counter medicines except insulin (PPACA, 2011, pp. 1,957-1,959)
HSA Withdrawal tax hike from 10 to 20 percent (PPACA, 2011, p. 1,959)
Employer reporting of insurance on W-2 forms, taxing health benefits on individual tax returns (PPACA, 2012, p. 1,957)
Surtax on investment income for families that make at least $250,000 or $200,00 single (Bill Reconciliation Act, 2013, pp. 87-93)
Medicare payroll tax increase (PPACA, Reconciliation Act, 2013, pp. 2,000-2,003, pp. 87-93)
A 2.3 percent excise tax on medical device manufacturers (PPACA, 2013, pp. 1,980-1,986)
Medical expenses can be itemized if they exceed 10 percent, no longer the previous 7.5 percent, resulting in fewer people being able to itemize (PPACA, 2013, pp. 1,994-1,995)
Flexible spending account cap of $2,500 which is now unlimited (PPACA, 2013, pp. 2,388-2,389)
Eliminate tax deductions for employer-provided retirement prescription drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (PPACA, 2013, p. 1,994)
Limit of $500,000 annual executive compensation for health insurance executives (PPACA, 2013, pp. 1,995-2,000)
Individual mandate excise tax starting in 2014 if a person does not buy a "qualifying" health insurance, 1 percent in 2014, 2 percent in 2015, 2.5 percent in 2016; exempted are hardship cases as determined by HHS, religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes (PPACA, 2014, pp. 317-337)
Employer mandated tax, non-deductible of $2,000 per employee if the employer does not offer health coverage and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit; if an employee receives coverage through the government exchange, the employer penalty for that employee increases to $3,000 (PPACA, 2014, pp. 345-346)
Tax on health insurers based on premiums collected per year (PPACA, 2014, pp. 1,986-1,993 (this all but forces employers to stop offering insurance, forcing their employees onto the government exchanges)
40 percent excise tax on comprehensive health insurance plans or "Cadillac plans" (PPACA, 2018, pp. 1,941-1,956)
Funny that they slammed that smoker thing in the ACA. Was there a problem with holding FAT people responsible for their sorrowful lifestyle?
Is your full name Publius Tedious?
chick - yes, I believe it is! Tedious and dumb!
Obviously, you need some brains, for you don't appreciate the wisdom of the savvy. Just think about your moniker....
@chick, Yeah, make fun of his name. That'll get it done! You want to critique Publius? Why not answer him this way. As a liberal, I voted in the Democratic leadership in Washington that didn't bother to want to read the legislation prior to passing the law. NOW----That gets it done!!!
And really, all things said and done--- That's all that has to be said to understand how a liberal thinks, wouldn't you agree? Dont read it, ((( pretent )))) it's good till we do, then find out what's in it, to find out it's going to be nothing but a cluster f#%& that will COST EVERYONE, Middle class taxpayer included. Remember the words of your beloved potus don't you? This isn't a tax. Well, lets See how it plays out for you in the months to come. Then you can come back and make fun of his name. good luck.
Just wait and see what each person has to pay to get coverage with Obamcare. The estimated cost for a family plan is $20,000.
MichelPaulson - as I always say, seeking sanity in the Republican party but as so many far righters prove daily, there is absolutely NONE to be found!
ed - OMG - what an idiot! Even the dumbest of Republicans are putting the cost at $2000 to $2500. You truly are an imbecile!
You can lead a Republican to the facts but you can't make them think. And why don't they post a link to back up their
liesclaims????The following linkwill help you calculate exactly what your costs will be under many different scenarios. I recommend perusing all the links on this site:http://healthreform.kff.org/subsidycalculator.aspx
Publius,hate to clue but nobody is reading your worthless rant.
RNC, don't forget bring LOTS of lipstick!!
Time to let the pandering begin?
It's always time.