Hey Robert from St Lou, keep ranting if it makes you feel better. Just curious, when exactly were the good old days before the sky started falling, in your opinion?

chucky... Proof that venting (or ranting) is mentally healthy.

delray, federal law prohibits tuition aid from taxpayer dollars.

Anything you're experiencing/seeing is either privately funded or is state policy. State policy varies from state to state.

So, as a "caucasion" student loans, local scholarships and other federal/state financial aid is available if you qualify. However, your beef is not with the federal government.

I am not so focused on race, but your government is DEFINITELY selling out people like you-- hard working middle class Americans (of whatever race) in favor of the despicable ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS and by pledging allegiance to a corrupt system by which lawbreaking prevails over law-abiding behavior! THIS IS WRONG!

Angelica, that post was borderline despicable.

Give us examples of wherelaw-breaking prevails over law abiding behavior.

Thanks...

What is despicable is granting special treatment for lawbreakers (most of whom who have violated our immigration laws, have committed identity theft, have driven sans license and insurance, have commited perjury on an I-9, have failed to pay the requisite taxes (not all, but most), game the system, obtain taxpayer funded benefits to support their anchor babies, deplete our other social welfare programs like WIC, etc. The demand to be above the very rules to which 1 Million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS adhere each year is despicable. Promoting rewards for lawbreaking is despicable.

We permit appx. 1 million LEGAL immigrants to come into the U.S. every single year (more than all other countries combined). LEGAL immigrants play by the rules, wait an extended wait, pay significant fees and incur other costs, and go through a background check. Granting rewards and special treatment for immigration lawbreaking is permitting the lawbreakers to prevail over the lawabiding LEGAL immigrants --- not to mention that being in favor of rewarding ILLEGAL immigration ONLY SERVES to devastate the job opportunities and wages of AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants. Granting rewards and special treatment for immigration lawbreaking is a FORM OF CORRUPTION and will only further engender more of it! Lending support for such corruption is despicable!

Angelica, "most of whom..."? Assumes facts not in evidence...

No one is "permitting" illegal immigration. This administration has deported more illegals than any other previous administration. They've added to border security and continue to budget for more patrols and technology. Illegal crossings are down for a number of reasons... And your initimation of "job killing" illegals is unfounded.

No federal taxpayer funded benefits go to illegals. It's against the law.

And finally, what's your solution to the 11 million people here right now? You can't deport them, that's an impossibility.

@Chip Angelica is completely unreasonable when it comes to immigration. She will tell you she is all for legal immigration, but she consistently posts this type of crap with no facts to support her position. Her anti-immigration stance is like so many of those that use it to hide their bigotry.

TamL-- The only thing that's patently unreasonable is your support for subversion of our laws. You have no facts to support your position-- I always defend the LEGAL immigrants. Identify one instance in which I have made an "anti-immigration" statement! YOU CAN'T BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED! Identify one instance in which I have made a "bigoted" statement! YOU CANNOT BECAUSE IT NEVER HAS HAPPENED!

Your post is replete with intellectual dishonesty! There is nothing lower than leveling a baseless charge of "bigotry" or similar slur. YOU HAVE NO BASIS. YOUR POST RELIES ENTIRELY UPON DISHONESTY and THE FACTS ARE NOT ON YOUR SIDE SO YOU RESORT TO LOW-BROW CHARACTER ASSASINATION! LIAR!

Wrong Chip--- ILLEGALS UTILIZE AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF OUR TAXPAYER RESOURCES:

See, e.g., MSNBC posted Article by the Associated Press etitled: Health Reform Threatens Clinic Care for Illegals, an excerpt in relevant part is as follows:

But in states with large illegal immigrant populations, the math may not work, especially if lawmakers don't expand Medicaid, the joint state-federal health program for the poor and disabled.

When the reform has been fully implemented, illegal immigrants will make up the nation's second-largest population of uninsured, or about 25 percent. The only larger group will be people who qualify for insurance but fail to enroll, according to a 2012 study by the Washington-based Urban Institute.

And since about two-thirds of illegal immigrants live in just eight states, those areas will have a disproportionate share of the uninsured to care for.

In communities "where the number of undocumented immigrants is greatest, the strain has reached the breaking point," Rich Umbdenstock, president of the American Hospital Association, wrote last year in a letter to Obama, asking him to keep in mind the uncompensated care hospitals gave to that group. "In response, many hospitals have had to curtail services, delay implementing services, or close beds."

The federal government has offered to expand Medicaid, but states must decide whether to take the deal. And in some of those eight states — including Texas, Florida and New Jersey — hospitals are scrambling to determine whether they will still have enough money to treat the remaining uninsured.

Without a Medicaid expansion, the influx of new patients and the looming cuts in federal funding could inflict "a double whammy" in Texas, said David Lopez, CEO of the Harris Health System in Houston, which spends 10 to 15 percent of its $1.2 billion annual budget to care for illegal immigrants.

Realistically, taxpayers are already paying for some of the treatment provided to illegal immigrants because hospitals are required by law to stabilize and treat any patients that arrive in an emergency room, regardless of their ability to pay. The money to cover the costs typically comes from federal, state and local taxes.

A solid accounting of money spent treating illegal immigrants is elusive because most hospitals do not ask for immigration status. But some states have tried.

California, which is home to the nation's largest population of illegal immigrants, spent an estimated $1.2 billion last year through Medicaid to care for 822,500 illegal immigrants.

The New Jersey Hospital Association in 2010 estimated that it cost between $600 million and
$650 million annually to treat 550,000 illegal immigrants.

And in Texas, a 2010 analysis by the Health and Human Services Commission found that the agency
had provided $96 million in benefits to illegal immigrants, up from $81 million two years earlier. The state's public hospital districts spent an additional $717 million in uncompensated care to treat that population.

1. The MiamiHerald Editorial Board reported on February 14, 2010, and I quote:

Caring for undocumented residents cost Jackson $150 million last year, about as much
as it received from the voter approved half-penny sales tax.

This means that virtually the ENTIRETY of the additional tax paid by South Floridians goes to pay for the healthcare of those who aren't even supposed to be in in the United States. Meanwhile Jackson is on the verge of collapse. This means that American citizens and LEGAL immgrants are in jeopardy of losing
their fail-safe healthare safety-net!!

2. Also, as posted on the LA County Mayor's website:

January 19, 2011 -- Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich released figures from the Department of Public Social Services showing that in November 2010, $53 million in welfare benefits ($22 million CalWORKs + $31 million in Food Stamps) were issued to parents who reside in the United States illegally and collect benefits for their native-born children in Los Angeles
County -- representing an increase of nearly 3 million from November 2009. This
amounts to approximately 22% of all CalWORKs and Food Stamp issuances in the
County.

In 2009, CalWORKs and Food Stamp issuances to illegals totaled nearly $570 million. Based on the monthly figures in 2010, the total cost for the year will exceed $600 million.

"When you add this to $550 million for public safetyand nearly $500 million for healthcare, the total cost for illegal immigrants to County taxpayers exceeds $1.6 billion dollars a year – not including the hundreds of millions of dollars for education," said Antonovich.

3. On April 3, 2011, the Seattle Times reported as follows:

As the state Legislature looks for ways to close a $5 billion budget shortfall, lawmakers are eyeing millions in cuts that could reduce or eliminate services used by illegal immigrants. Washington is projected to spend more than $300 million over the next two years on services illegal immigrants can tap,
primarily welfare and health care for children, the seriously ill and pregnant women.

Washington state estimates it will spend more than $300 million over the next two years on services illegal immigrants can tap, not counting K-12 education. A breakdown:

$125 million on health care for 7,400 pregnant women ineligible for Medicaid because of federal restrictions.

$73 million on welfare for children. The federal government requires proof that the children are here legally, but not their parents. This program also can't be changed.

$59 million for medical and dental coverage for 25,000 children from low-income families ineligible for Medicaid because they can't prove they are here legally.

$24 million for kidney dialysis and cancer treatment for 1,300 low-income people ineligible for Medicaid because they can't prove they are here legally.

$15 million for in-state tuition subsidies for students who have lived in Washington for at least three years. The state does not check legal status.

$5.6 million in nursing-home care for low-income undocumented residents.

Chip-- Not enforcing our immigration laws (and granting immunity from the law to ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS is equivalent to permitting the immigration lawbreaking.

The solution is to enforce the law. When you have an ILLEGAL in custody, they should be deported. If the law would be enforced as against employers hiring ILLEGALS, that would dissuade most of it. Yes-- the ILLEGAL immigration would stop if we enforced our laws becuase the messsage would resonate that you cannot profit from your illegality-- now the opposite is true. Also, if it was not rewarded, most would leave!

THE SUREST WAY TO ENSURE THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION WILL CONTINUE IN PERPETUITY IS TO REWARD IT AND TO EXCUSE ILLEGALS FROM PLAYING BY THE RULES BY WHICH 1 MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS PLAY EACH YEAR!

One only has to go back through your posting history to know where you stand. I have seen enough of your posts, I really dont' care too. I have not and do not support illegal immigration. I am however very much against filthy minded bigots.

TamL-- If all one has to do is go through my posting history--- THEN DO IT and cite to something-- anything-- to substantiate your FALSE claims of "bigotry". Surely, if you believe you've made a valid claim, you've already gone through my posts, so it should be easy if you are correct-- BUT, OF COURSE YOU ARE NOT CORRECT! THE ONLY THING THAT'S FILTHY ARE THE DISHONEST LIES YOU ARE WILLING TO INVOKE FOR LACK OF ANYTHING MERITORIOUS TO SAY HERE! You cannot cite to anything "bigoted" on my part. You cannot refute my facts. Indeed, the facts are not on your side, as you are WILLING TO tell lies in support of your improper agenda.

Contrary to your asinine and erroneous statements, the enforcement of our immigration laws (the most generous laws in the world) is not bigoted. There is simply nothing worse than a low-level, exposed FILTHY LIAR!

Chip,you obviously have not been following legislation in California.Illegal immigrants can get scholarships and now they can even get a drivers license ala Jerry Brown,our clown governor.Illegals receive housing assistance and food stamps for their children.their children are being educated in our public schools.They also use the emergency room like their personal doctor.Illegals are receiving tax paid for benefits because the bleeding hearts in this country.When the economic collapse of this country comes you will be singing a different tune.

Delray - This is not a Caucasian vs non-Caucasian issue. There are plenty of Irish illegals working in Boston this very minute. The color of your skin has little to nothing to do with this discussion. The only major difference I am aware of is that the Irish are not over-filling the jails in MA.

chucky b,Your comments are racist.Your comments are also juvenile.

I think it prudent that we consider they may choose not to comply with any new ones. What then?

Simple. give'em a deadline to meet the requirements set forth by congress. After that, deport their asses!

Just Me,.If people,including yourself, would take every issue in this country with a bi partisan outlook maybe then things would change for the betterment of all American citizens.The only people besides the illegals who would benefit from the Dream Act are the businesses who hire slave labor.

Joefromthecape12,It is not the will of 60% of our United States citizen population.Note the word that I used is citizen.

I'm sure I can find some native americans to help you pack!

Rick is the same moron who guaranteed a Romney victory in Colorado last November based entirely on the NEVER PROVEN WRONG ANALYSIS of some university polling group in his hometown.

Here's some news for you, Rick. THEY WERE WRONG.

do you know that pulling tooth with a pencil is a far less painful and less stressful and less frustrating affair than going thru the so-called butchered discarded and left to die "LEGAL" process???

Even the lawyers, who got paid to go thru the process, are pulling their hairs out.

I know, novel concept which doesn't seem to make sense when you're inside the glass window looking out.

Tell that to your grand parents. If you look back far enough, I'm sure you will find many "illegals" in your family.