It ought to be worthy of consideration since it was originally partly the GOP's idea, wasn't it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act

Heck, even Texas has a version of it.

Mitchie, perfectly said.

These are the same folks who voted against the DREAM Act previously, now they find it "worthy of consideration". Apparently elections do have consequences, too bad the GOP couldn't embrace what was the right thing to do before the election rather than as an afterthought. While I am pleased that immigration reform is finally on the table, there's a hollow ring to the GOPers sudden discovery of compassion and common sense.

"Boehner did not wholly embrace the DREAM Act, however, which is understandable considering the speaker has to weigh politics within his conference."

^^This is the entire problem with everyone in Congress. You should either stand for or against something based on your beliefs of what is right or wrong for the country, NOT how it will be perceived by colleagues, or for that matter voters. You have been voted in to make things happen based on the beliefs you say you abide by. So stop the BS and just state whether you agree with something or not.

Short-sighted. Sure, it seems like the reasonable thing to do in the short term, but in the long run, it well merely encourage more of the same behavior, condemning future generations in the countries of origin to DREAM of escaping their situation and going to America instead of fixing the problem in their homeland.

‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.” - Senator Ted Kennedy, 1986

Sorry Ted, but "never again" is here. Proof that granting amnesty, using whatever code words you like, will merely encourage the activity to continue.

The only 'Dream Act' worthy of consideration by Boehner is a Double Margarita in front of him, with a shot of Jose Cuervo on the left, a shot of Sauza on the right, followed by chasers of Tang-eria, ole.

Why won't they end the Anchor Baby clause?

Why are our public servants not protecting our borders and our jobs? I didn't serve in the military to protect the rights of criminal illegal immigrants.

Off topic, but I'd like to hear from anyone how a universal background check or an assault weapons ban or a limit on the number of round in a magazine would have prevented this tragic shooting --

http://newsone.com/2187040/temorej-smith-greenville-south-carolina-pink-gun/

Temorej Smith, a 3-year-old boy from Greenville, S.C., fatally shot himself with a pink handgun he thought was a toy, WYFF-4 reports. Police ruled the Friday night shooting an accident.

Or doesn't this kind of child killing count as part of the problem?

What this goes to show is that we need to do more. A LOT more.

A pink handgun? Seriously?

My mother immigrated to this country before I was born. My father is American and I was born here. I am strongly for legal immigration, but I had to ask myself this question: What if my mother had given birth to me in her native country and brought me here when I was 6 months old? I live my entire life here and come to find out, through no fault of my own, that I'm in the country illegally. Do I go back to the country of my mother? I have no ties or family there that I'm aware of. I don't speak the language. For practical purposes, I am as American as every one of you, I just don't have the documentation saying so. What do I do? The people who come here illegally should not be rewarded for it, but you have to understand that there are a lot of people who are here illegally through no fault of their own and for all intents and purposes are American. How should that problem be addressed?

Why won't they end the Anchor Baby clause?

Hey, why not jw101?.....Get rid of that whole 14th Amendment thingy!....

Maybe Gov Jindal of Louisiana can start that ball rolling!

Pleeeease AlaskaGirl

Picking fruit? Is that what Obama's illegal uncle is doing? NO!

He is the manager of a liquor store. Not all illegals pick fruit. They work construction where they undercut American worker's wages. They are the fire chief in NJ, the writer for the Washington Post. They are taking OUR jobs,

AND THE BORDER IS not SECURE...OBAMA CHANGED THE ACCOUNTING METHODS SO NOW WHEN AN ILLEGAL IS TURNED AWAY AT THE BORDER, IT IS NOW BEING COUNTED AS A DEPORTATION.

Don't just regurgitate your liberal garbage... spend some time seeing how this will impact our nation and your children.

Not sure Cappy but I believe part of the Dream Act addressed this very scenario. Once the Act is in place, a place marker is set for any under 18 to get fast tracked. The problem was that opponents said it didn't go far enough and wanted all ages included, not just children 18 and under. That was one of the killers of the Act. The progressives were not going to exclude anyone of any age.

Anchor babies, are just that, they Anchor the family to the community and to vilify those innocents is beyond comprehension. To punish and vilify children brought here, through no fault of their own is despicable, give them a chance instead of screeching for deportation.

I don't see a mad rush by "Americans" to hit the farm fields or fruit groves applying for work, hotel jobs abound but not for Americans and their applications for employment.

Cure for illegal immigration--stop hiring them, Texas would collapse without undocumented workers, who is the GOP kidding--watch the states that engage in the covert hiring resist any real immigration reform. Simply put, don't trust Boehner or the GOP to do the right thing, ever!

"It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children and who know no other home," Cantor said.

So I can agree that there have been uncounted children who were brought to this country illegally and that this is the only country that they know and this is not a crime that should be punishable to the victim. So let's start calling this what it truly is.....Human Trafficking of children. This is a very nasty business. The sad thing is that our nation would like to sanitize this horrific crime or view it through shades of gray.

So many victims of Human Trafficking in minors are caught between a rock and a hard place because it is their own family members who have suffered them to the will of the drug cartels and equally unscrupulous Coyote's. Because their parents want them here but are not willing to take the risk of bringing them across the border themselves.

It seems easy for the public to ignore articles and information about human trafficking of children going wrong. Children die in this activity. Children are abused in this activity. Children become pawns of the lowest form of scum all because their family has a gross disregard for our laws.

We cannot be a fair nation in one respect if we continue to cover-up the crime of human trafficking in order to offer the victim the best possible outcome. If we do countless, anonymous, children will continue to die simply because some will actually get through our borders.

It would be a tenuous task, but with rights come responsibilities, there needs to be a full disclosure from each applicant of how they came to the United States and who brought them. In the cases where a family member paid anyone a dime to transport a child the individual paying as well as the individual or organization who was paid should be prosecuted under human trafficking statutes, under child abuse and neglect statutes and any foreign national who paid or was paid in the commission of this crime should be deported, their assets seized and used to protect children to come.

The most awful scenario plays out over and over where stash houses are raided, minors are found and no one comes to claim the children.

So I would caution our legislators to tread lightly and to protect the boundaries of basic human dignity and safety of children who have been and will be brought into this country by criminal means.

We are America and we have a responsibility to protect any and all child in this country. Even if we are protecting them from their own families, misplaced, judgement for child safety.

JW101...

Why won't they end the Anchor Baby clause?

Because it isn't just a clause it is part of our constitutional rights and changing the Constitution is not a matter that should be taken lightly.

CHILLED.......

The anchor baby clause costs the American taxpayers billions of dollars.

Once the illegal mom has a baby here, she gets food stamps, rent assistance, free education, free health care, job training, for ALLLLLL of her children. Every one of them. And Americans pay for it all.

POOR LITTLE CRIMINALS. Were the illegals starving before they came here....NO!! They are just greedy law-breakers and take and take and take. Your reward? ....crime and more taxes

Calm down jw101.......

Way too much nasty stuff in your post!

The child, regardless of the parents status, born in the US is a citizen.

Again, why don't you contact Gov Jindal.

All of our leaders need rebranding-- to represent the best interests of AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS rather than tripping over each other to sell out the American worker(whose opportunities and rights are being devastated) in favor of the ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, their offspring, and their insufferable advocates!

Pledging rewards and special treatment incident to immigration lawbreaking is the WORST WAY to demonstrate any future commitment to enforce our immigration laws. Reagan's 1986 Amnesty is Exhibit A evidencing the fact that rewarding ILLEGALITY only serves to further incentivize MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS MORE INSTANCES OF LAWBREAKING IN THE FUTURE? WHERE DOES IT END?

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!

jw101: I imagine you would want to get rid of the 14th Amendment and require that any person claiming citizenship by birth prove that their parents, grand-parents, great-grand parents and so on for 5 generations (back to before the end of the civil war) were all legal residents or citizens.

Your racist attitude is showing. Go back into your momma's basement and take your Klan hood there too.

The entire concept of limiting immigration has always been waged by persons with N. European ancestry attempting to limit the ability of others to enter this country. As usual, it is the angry old white men trying to hold onto power.

The funny part is, because the GOP has now come out and said they will do immigration reform, they will have to do something.

If the country is fortunate, the bill will not have the smoke and mirrors concepts the GOP would like to put in place which would allow them to pass a law that does not improve the ability of immigrants to become citizens or allow additional people to become immigrants.

You talk about pandering to a demographic, suddenly the GOP wants Mexicans more than a landscaping Company.

Pretty soon it will become fashionable to come out of the closet. Do you hear me Lindsey Graham, Dick Morris, and others.

dirp,

i am not racist. i didn't mention one particular group. don't use that garbage to defend criminals that aren't supposed to be here.

keep the illegal mother out and there will be no innocent child victims. any child that is born in the u.s . by legal american parents, is an american. try having a child in france and see if they call your american baby french.

anyone that defends illegal immigrants is an illegal themselves, are related to an illegal or are making money off the illegals.

no true american would defend criminal illegals over their own countrymen.

jw101: " Not all illegals pick fruit".

True enough - around here, they pick mushrooms, too. I don't know anyone who wants that job.

Then there are the ones in southwest Florida who I got to know pretty well over the last couple years. They didn't pick fruit, either. They worked in the hospitals and assisted living home where my late mother spent the last two years of her life. They bathed her and fed her and helped her in and out of bed. They brushed her hair and told her how pretty it was. They kept her room spotless even when she spilled the food she could barely see. They cleaned her cats' litter box and when the time came, they gently cleaned Mom herself up and changed her clothes and bed linens when she had IBS and couldn't make it to the bathroom in time and soiled everything in sight. Eventually they changed her adult diapers when she could no longer make it to the bathroom at all, and tried their best to help her overcome her shame. They sang to her and told her jokes and hugged her and held her hand when she was afraid. They comforted her when she cried, and patiently endured the abuse she heaped on them when dementia started taking over her mind, and whenever I'd apologize for her behavior toward them, they'd shrug it off and tell me not to worry - they knew she didn't mean it. In short, they made her last months far more comfortable than I could ever have asked for and eased my mind immensely from a thousand miles away.

Some were from Haiti, some from the Dominican Republic, some from unknown African countries, and at least one was from the Ukraine. Some were legal, most probably were not.

Either way, I don't give a damn. I'm just grateful that they were there. I'd take them to care for my Mom over someone like you any day.

I'm glad to see this shift by the GOP - it's long overdue. I understand the desire to not reward illegal behavior, but the reality is we cannot deport 10+ million people - and the economic disruption would be severe for years.

Hopefully they will also address the immigration system as a whole. My understanding is, to do it legally it can take 10+ years and many thousands of dollars - which pretty much drives people to come here illegally.

What if my mother had given birth to me in her native country and brought me here when I was 6 months old? I live my entire life here and come to find out, through no fault of my own, that I'm in the country illegally.

*Sigh* If your father was American, you would still have citizenship regardless of where you are born.

drip: Please don't give the RWNJ's any more ideas. I am not 100% sure my grand parent had all the proper papers. Or should I learn how to speak Italian.

Jo Anne: I do not care if they are legal or not, they are citizens in my eyes.

Ron, "the reality is we cannot deport 10+ million people".

Not the case. During the recession when jobs in the housing market were falling by the thousands, many illegals went back home (self-deported). Why? No jobs. No incentive to stay here.

That is the solution. Start rounding up all the employers who hire illegals. Soon no one will hire them. There will no jobs and consequently no incentive for them to stay here, or come here in the first place.

"...the economic disruption would be severe for years."

Not if we reformed the legal immigration process so legal immigrants could get in faster.

DC wants tax payers to help curtail the building mountain of debt. None of this will happen. So much easier to wave the magic pen and grant amnesty to ~12 million new taxpayers.

JW if you are the shining example of a "true" american(are you a native american?), then yes i would rather defend illegals over you!

And the day you are for every single "american" having to take the citizenship test when they turn 18 (failure means they must leave the country until they are eligible for a visa/green card in 10 to 20 years), is the day i would be for the ending of the so called "anchor baby clause"

@Joanne in PA - that's the problem, Ma'am - taking jobs away from United States citizens. How do you justify that as being lawful. Thank you for telling us that there are nursing homes that are hiring undocumented workers so that ICE can investigate. Keep talking.

Exito: that's the problem with RWNJ's (a/k/a Republicans) they don't realize that if you are born in this country, you are a citizen. As a new born citizen, you have not done any crime. Many of the "anchor babies" are born in the U.S. of people who come to the country legally, either as immigrants, children of persons here on student visas or people just visiting.

The problem they seem to have has been that since about 1980, the immigration to the US has shifted from being of European origin to being of Latin American (mainly Mexico) origin and Asian. In fact, the total immigration from Asia is greater than that of Europeans and from Latin America is about three times that from Europe.

Republicans do not like progressive ideas. Unfortunately, this country was founded on progressive ideas and immigrants come to the country because they like progress.

jw101: you may not be a racist, but you certainly espouse many of the ideals that racists have been putting forth for too long. I'll tell you what I tell anyone spouting off about "anchor babies" and "criminals" (btw, did you know that the federal courts have conclusively ruled that being in the country while being technically deportable is NOT A CRIME. Look it up, it was part of the ruling against Arizona) and that is that you should hang up your sheets and hoods and join the civilized world.

JoAnne....it reminds me of the illegal that stole someone else's job and was hired by my late aunt in southeast FL.

She cared for my aunt, and also stole personal items and a lot money from her.

Living in FL gives me a better picture of the benefits and difficulties dealing with illegals. And, in the end, you always lose with illegals. The costs, the crime, etc far outweigh some cheap lettuce.

Don't worry, you'll learn soon enough.

"Boehner did not wholly embrace the DREAM Act, however, which is understandable considering the speaker has to weigh politics within his conference."

How much more phoney can they be?

They're only PRETENDING to be supportive, which is obvious by Boehner's inability to come out in support of the Dream Act, because Boehner knows Cantor will be waiting in Boehner's office to kick Boehner's a$$ for supporting the Dream Act AND for making President Obama look good by getting Republican support for the President's Immigration Plan.

That is all we can expect from the GOP, "cloak and dagger" and even bigger lies than they told before.

What an embarassment to the United States, that other nations watching the GOP see how corrupt they are from the inside out.

jw101: "Don't worry, you'll learn soon enough."

Thanks, but I suspect I'm older than you and have seen a lot more than you ever will. Been there, done that, tired of the same old "cheap lettuce" arguments. I'm sorry about your aunt. Of course, that would NEVER have happened if her caretaker had been a fifth generation legal American, would it? Because "legal" Americans never lie to or cheat on or steal from their relatives or their employers, do they?

I imagine the modern Republican Dream Act is more like a nightmare for those caught in it:

1. They will reduce funding for the immigration service, increasing the time and difficulty to become citizens.

2. They will allow those who are here to stay, but will make it more difficult to obtain legal work permits.

3. They will require that the borders be secured before any changes to #1 and #2.

4. They will cut funding for the border patrol service.

5. They will claim to be in favor of immigration and immigration reform, when in reality, they have made matters worse on all fronts.

TO: jw101 who wrote:

"... The anchor baby clause costs the American taxpayers billions of dollars.

Once the illegal mom has a baby here, she gets food stamps, rent assistance, free education, free health care, job training, for ALLLLLL of her children. Every one of them. And Americans pay for it all.

POOR LITTLE CRIMINALS. Were the illegals starving before they came here....NO!! They are just greedy law-breakers and take and take and take. Your reward?...crime and more taxes."

This is the attitude of those who claim to be "pro life".

Obviously, they're NOT "pro life" they just want to "rule the womb".

JoAnne in PA.....

As you are older, but not apparently wiser, let me ask......why are you defending illegal immigrants over American citizens? How do criminal illegals benefit you and your country?

Agreed that all types of people commit crimes....but why allow people that started off here with a crime continue to stay here?

My tax dollars have been paying for these invaders....are YOU going to pay me back since you are defending them ?

jw101: "How do criminal illegals benefit you and your country?"

Jesus, if you still have to ask that after reading my initial post, then there's no answer I can give that you'll ever understand.

But hey, I'll give it a whirl anyway for anyone else who may still be reading. Forget my sainted mother, who apparently means nothing to you. Fine. These people are working - many of them two or more jobs - and many are going to school at night to get even better jobs so they can support their families instead of having to rely on those government handouts that people like you are always bitching about. They pay rent and they pay taxes.They shop and use services and support local businesses, which in turn provides "nicer" jobs to "legal" Americans who wouldn't change my mother's soiled underwear no matter how much it paid. And they're raising their own kids to have the same work ethic that they do, and making sure they get an even better education, which means maybe one day your kids or grandchildren will be working for theirs.

Which is what you're really worried about, aren't you?

I'm outta here. Enjoy your "cheap lettuce".

txmom - again you post nothing but stupidity. Did you even bother to read your rambling, no fact, no sense post? Again, you're a blithering idiot! (Now come back at me for calling you a birther - again.)

Someone bringing their own small child to this country is no more Human Trafficing than you are intelligent - and NO ONE would call you that!

I've got another idea Mr. Boehner worthy of consideration - how about we vote your butt out of office and elect someone that represents conservative values.

Yes, I think THAT is a great idea "worthy of consideration"

The anchor baby clause is b.s. At best it should be worth a few extra points on the applicant's immigration form when they are aged eighteen. The only way to stop this continuing b.s. is with a legislative shovel.

My Dad was awarded the Medal of Freedom with silver palm . . . d'jer know how many extra points that was worth on my application form? Right!

"jw101"...Perhaps you should take your bellyaching rhetoric to the Republicans. Why are you crying to us when it's the Republicans that are crapping in your face?

Be warned - they only pandered to you and your teabagging buddies to get votes. That did not work out for them and now, given Cantor yesterday and Boehner today, not even the bottom feeders of the Republican Party want to go near you.

I'm sorry for the United States that you and the teabaggers were so horribly duped but, given the your nasty personalities and worship of any lie that comes over Fox about President Obama, you will not get any pity from me.

You deserve what you get - just add it to the pile of snake oil and hair growing kits you have in your closet.

Ahh.."probusiness"...Did that make you feel like a man? Let's just see how much power a little teabagger hissy fit has when confronted by the Republican establishment.

Poor powerless teabaggers. I guess you may finally have to start your own party instead of leaching off of those who were actually leaching off your ignorance until they got your vote.

Just call it the nasty, stupid people party. You may be able to fill a position as dog catcher somewhere in rural Alabama.

This has become such a great idea now because of all those lost voters that the GOP lost with the running off at the mouth they did before the election..the real problem would be just how much do they actualy mean anything they say now.

Meanwhile, while our leaders argue, wax and wane over the nuances involved with immigration reform, failing to agree on anything, illegals continue waltzing in on a daily basis.

Even if some reform took place they haven't addressed what they would do with future illegals who will continue coming the traditional ways. Any 'reform' will be perceived as an open invitation to 'come on in' and we'll be flooded more than ever.

They need to find ways to throw back the illegal infiltrators so that the current ridiculous number of 11 million doesn't grow to 20 million, or more. If they don't, start looking for deals on Rosetta Stone to learn Spanish- we're going to need it!

Wow, "profreedom"...And I guess it is going to be you that pays for the box cars.

Hitler would be so proud of you.

No word on Boehner crapping in your face? You must be so ashamed to have been duped so easily. Sorry to say, "profreedom"...but you are the only one that is surprised.

Joanne

Sorry about your mom, but too many other Americans have been hurt by illegals to dissuade me from my argument

Also, someone WOULD have changed your late mothers undergarments if the pay was enough. But it is NOT enough.....why? Because the illegals cause wages to be lowered. Businesses love 'em, American taxpayers pay for 'em. Pay $20 an hour and see if Americans won't work those jobs.

An estimated 50,000 Americans that have been killed by illegals (that we know of) in the last ten years. Anyone remember a little boy named Jimmy Ryce? Look him up.

(Come walk around downtown Dallas some weekend night around 2 A.M., Joanne, and then we'll discuss this topic again)

shockedanddisgusted- so glad to see so many fellow "patriots" bury their heads in the sand. If you were truly 'shocked' by this nightmare your 'disgust' would compel you to take a real stance on the immigration issue. Instead you follow the rest of your liberal lemmings over the nearest cliff and point fingers of blame in the wrong direction once the truth is revealed, simply because you can't handle it. Shove that in your boxcar!

AmericanGirl..."They're only PRETENDING to be supportive,..."

Hispanics pretended to vote for Obama, when in fact they voted for amnesty.

Obama pretends to support illegals and Hispanics when in fact he only wants ~12 million new taxpayers to help pay the ever increasing mountain of debt this country faces.

Republicans pretending...Democrats pretending...Reason why I'm an Independent.

Cappy-1911 asked "What if my mother had given birth to me in her native country and brought me here when I was 6 months old?"

You have a valid argument and in a free country we should sympathize with those forced into a crime against tehir will and this is exactly what has happened. First of all we should open the door to these children under the condition that their parents, the ones who violated the law are held accountable though a steep fine, any taxes owed and being placed at the back of the immigration line. Obama likes to say that these children want to come out of the shadows but no one wants to mention the fact that it was their parents who put them in the shadows to begin with.

At the same time we do this we also need to streamline immigration, be a little more open to our shared borders but also more willing to deport those who overstay their welcome and also we should hold Mexico more accountable for their side. And while we make it easier to immigrate here, we need to be honest about the fact that it is already easier to immigrate to American than anywhere else and stop complaining about America being anti-immigrant which is an absurd liberal tactic and reinforce this by actually jailing those who in the future come here illegally. Put them to work through the prison system doing manual labor. This would serve to discourage more invaders, and this is exactly what many illegal aliens are.

And lastly we need to stop being so pc about this and call it what it is. Illegal immigration and the immigrants who break the laws are by definition aliens. This is not an insulting term, it is an actual legal term and to bow to pc and stop calling them this only serves to legitimize the crime (and in fact multiple crimes when you consider forged papers, taxes, etc).

Joanne - You are simply wrong.

"But hey, I'll give it a whirl anyway for anyone else who may still be reading. Forget my sainted mother, who apparently means nothing to you. Fine. "

And your sainted mother is one woman. Did she bring you here illegal? If so then she is a criminal. Illegal is illegal. We can debate the justice of the law but we cant deny that the law exists and she broke it if she is here illegally.

"These people are working - many of them two or more jobs - and many are going to school at night to get even better jobs so they can support their families instead of having to rely on those government handouts that people like you are always bitching about."

Actually a very large (not all) percentage of Hispanic illegal aliens work multiple jobs, because they stand in parking lots waiting for under the table employers. They do not pay taxes on their wages because their wages are in cash. And yeah, these are the ones who do rely on government handouts. In fact part of the reason welfare has risen so much over the last few years is because the population of illegal aliens has also risen. Look at it, the numbers match.

"They pay rent and they pay taxes.They shop and use services and support local businesses, which in turn provides "nicer" jobs to "legal" Americans who wouldn't change my mother's soiled underwear no matter how much it paid."

They pay rent while violating housing codes by having multiple families in a single family dwelling and in many areas like it or not, property values are in fact lowered. Not because they are Hispanic, but because they do not take care of their property, they paint houses in multiple colors with mismatched paint because it is cheaper, they have multiple cars in the property, etc. Again, not a bigoted statement but a statement of fact. In fact people you might call white trash do this too, but they are not spreading out across the country.

"And they're raising their own kids to have the same work ethic that they do, and making sure they get an even better education, which means maybe one day your kids or grandchildren will be working for theirs."

And yet as the numbers of illegal aliens rise our test scores drop, as we teach Spanish alongside English our children become less knowledgeable in both. They may be able to speak a little of a second language but they cant do math or read or write. Why? Because the standards have been lowered to make it easier to elevate the weakest link. Now the weakest link should be helped this is what makes for a compassionate people, but not by making everyone else diminish.

Which is what you're really worried about, aren't you?

As for me, I am worried about a country that was built on immigration that is being destroy because too many people come here and break the laws, refuse to assimilate and force others to accept them without showing any respect for the country they wish to adopt. In other words, I want a country where all people thrive, from the citizen whose ancestors came here on the first boats to the newest immigrant. Not a country where everyone is held back to create false equality. But in your mind, no doubt this makes me a bigot.

More senseless babbling and deflection from"profreedom". What a surprise that profreedom has no actual plan and can only spew hate. Poor crybaby teabaggers. I have a new flag for them. Instead of a snake with the caption "Don't tread on me", we'll put "profreedom's" picture on the flag with the caption, "Don't poop on me".

Still no word from "profreedom" regarding Boehner which begs the question; Is "profreedom" not smart enough to realize he/she was just blindsided, used, and tossed away by the Republican leadership, or is "profreedom" too hateful and arrogant to admit he/she was completely duped?

Which one is it, "profreedom"? Not even the slimiest of Republicans are willing to accept your garbage. Can you sink any lower than that?

They'll probably fashion something with the intent of creating a controlled, traceable, permanent underclass for their yard care, etc. with the ability to make their one vote count provided they cast it correctly (or get one at all). Maybe treat them like our Puerto Rican subjects.

The problem with republican dream acts is that they always think its about THEIR dreams...

Caught only the tail end of something on MSNBC yesterday afternoon but I gathered that some GOPers in the House are looking at the DREAM Act but their version will be a path to nowhere; much like Marco Rubio's first attempt last year. Also, their version of what to do with the 11 million undocumented workers is to allow them to stay but also a path to nowhere by creating a permanent 2nd class group of people.

vik#'s, huh? On one hand you say that the GOP has/is destroying itself, then you claim President Obama is responsible for the demise of the GOP (which has/is destroying itself) and that somehow, all that means the death of liberalism in the USA.

BTW, vik#, it's up to conservatives to determine what their party will become; whether it will be "kinder or gentler" or radical and extreme. Liberals have nothing to do with it because we don't pick your candidates, you do.

Gee, Mr. Speaker---why wasn't it worthy of consideration before? What's changed except Latinos voting 71% for President Obama?

LOL Steeler Fan!!!

Latinos didn't vote for Obama. They voted for AMNESTY!!!

Begging the question,...HOW did those needing ..."amnesty" obtain voting rights?

Tighty Righty 'logic' simply ISN'T logical.

Now where were we,...

Oh yes, the illegals are taking our jobs, our services, our VERY WAY OF EXISTING away from us,...WHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

hs321 - considering that the only ones who could vote are citizens, your stupid amnesty post is ludicrous - at best!

I can tell you how the illegals vote in WA state -- when you get a driver license (no need to prove citizenship, just show WA proof of residence such as apt lease, utility bill, etc) you can also sign up to vote. So STFU, you don't know what you're talking about. What about stolen identities to sign up to vote? You lapdogs are so gullible that's why you believe everything your O and cronies tell you -- too lazy to do your own research not to mention NO common sense.

@Dotties Girl Please show some proof that there has been wide spread voting fraud perpetrated by illegal aliens.

And you are full of crap. When you sign up for your drivers license in the state of Washington you have to provide proof of who you are.

http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/idproof.html#identity

Damn, that's funny. Cantor and Boehner just crapped in "dotties girl's" face and SHE is calling OTHERS lapdogs. You have to be pretty nasty to not notice someone using you for your vote and then crapping in your face when it doesn't work. I guess if you have grown accustomed to having crap in your face, you lose the ability to smell the fresh stuff.

You were nasty and dumb enough to be duped by the Republicans, "dotties girl" - Do you think anything you write has ANY merit? Show us some proof of your little claims, oh gullible one.

(and we will still be laughing at you...)

Teabaggers fits galore!!! It's getting stinky in here!!!

TamL - Dottiesgirl can't show ANYTHING to prove her lies. She just posts whatever nonsense comes into her thick skull!

Seeking...are you serious? I'm hoping not.

Have you ever seen an Hispanic American, who can vote legally, demonstrating in support for amnesty (or whatever code words you want to use for it), wanting all their relatives and fellow Hispanics to get amnesty?

Ever heard of LULAC, La Raza, MECHA, etc. Hispanic organizations full of Hispanic Americans who can vote? Visit some of their web sites and read their support for amnesty and then come back here and tell me they voted for Obama and not amnesty. PLEASE!!!

I see the Teapublicans trying to change thier brand. Talking doesn't cfut it. I will believe they are changing when I see legislation of the state and national level. Until then, Teapublicans are anathema to me. They can keep their Christian Sharia and Luddite socio/political agenda out of my life forever.

You're not supposed to notice that they're necrophilic serial killers returning repeatedly to the victims they left rotting. How very un-republican of you. You probably owe them an apology now.

Shhh, Da Noid, don't remind them. As McCain said, it's all about "elections, elections, elections".

... terminology ...Illegal Immigrant? Yuck, can't call a slave a slave these days … I am sort of sweet on the term Indentured Apprentice Citizen.

Sir,

How can you be so linguistically crass, when the loyal opposition is simply in the process of

"message adjustment"?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/06/jon_stewart_mocks_republicans_for_rebranding_attempt.html"?

All funny people are Canadians ... or frequent visitors.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/jon-stewart-mocks-canada-s-indecision-oh-eh-1.349918

...no video, just a sleep aid commercial?

I guess it was the "Canadian Content"?

We have a different view (and perhaps a different dream), here on Broadway... (Offensive material alert!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6VKf6bXCCo

Note:David Hyde Pierce...Episcopalian..

sorry about that, I guess free trade does not include some content ... you can try the Dec. 8, 2008 show.

Niles was brilliant at slapstick.

"real white of you"

Nice. for ever dem or for ever racist ?

Wonder how many white people on this vine have been called a racist while being a victim of racism ? Wonder how many that have voted for Obama who have still been called a racist. I want to thank Barry and Michelle. Many folks I know now realize just how racist people of color can be.

Wonder how many white people on this vine have been called a racist while being a victim of racism ?

... don't forget to count yourself, you wouldn't want to screw with your mythedology.

vik2112..."people of color"?

Are you implying white is not a color? Not sure what the ACLU will have to say about that type of discrimination.

technically white and black are not colors

Technically no one is purely white either.

Seriously forever -- SS was secure until the dems raided it and took the money to fund other programs. Take a hard look at those dems you mindlessly drool over -- your mind might implode!

OMG, do you really believe the crap you are spewing?

http://peoplespension.infoshop.org/blogs-mu/2010/09/20/has-social-security-ever-been-%E2%80%9Craided%E2%80%9D/

The Reagan administration famously used the hike in payroll tax receipts in the 1980s – which was already scheduled in the 1977 Amendments, Reagan and Congress just moved the dates up – to compensate for the tax cuts he’d pushed through in 1981,

Technically SS wasn't really raided the trust has a bunch of IOUs that are redeemed from the general fun when it is running at a deficit.

I guess we'll have to bear with "dottie" and "vik". They just became completely irrelevant to the Republican party and they're just not clever enough to realize it yet. Shall we give them a couple weeks?

Why do you keep lying, "dottie"? I'm assuming you are not a chiristian...people like you do not fair well in their afterlife, you know.

HypnoticFreedom....you are half right.

Color is the sensation that results from the stimulation of the retina by light of different wave lengths. White is a combination of all wave lengths and in fact stimulates the retina.

You are correct that technically black is not a color. There is no light wavelength black. Black is technically defined as the absence of light of any wavelength.

kr-2875346

"what are the boys up to now?"

1,324,579... You were talking about the flip-flop, lie, misdirection, filibuster, and boy-toy count, right?

@dogs80 - LOL LOL very good!

We the legal immigrants, why is our case not included in the debate? Legal immigrants are here legally yet they can't be citizens, there is no law for that.

Yes there is, and I know it depends on what type of visa you have. But yes legal residents can take the citizenship test aftr they have lived here a certain number of years.

tresorier - of course you can become citizen. There is absolutely a law for that. My sister-in-law became a citizen last November.

Try again!

Our borders are more secure now than ever before. Efforts by both Presidents George W Bush and Barack Obama have increased border security. It isn't an easy thing to do for a free country to close borders as was done in Eastern Europe, for example. Even in Eastern Europe there were escapees into freedom.

The plan being discussed in Congress is one proposed by Republicans and endorsed with some additions, by Democrats. It seems fair to all concerned. It is NOT a free pass, is humane and ensures that there will be a minimum interruption in commerce for the US and it's Latin American trading partners.

I've called for putting our national guard on the Mexican/US border for years. That is the original intent of the scope of duty for that military division which is purely constitutional, and adheres to requisites of the law when a border nation threatens the security of the United States.

The Department of Homeland Security is not constitutional and never was by the definition of the agencies and their use under the Executive Branch. I have written extensively on this topic that I have researched implicitly to find some sort of legal language within the Bill of Rights to justify the department. There are none that exist.

DHS was simply contrived by political powerhouses that currently occupy elected offices in Washington, DC.

"I am, therefore I may do as I please," is the tone set by the Executive Branch toward this agenda that instructs our younger Americans that it is ok that president may destroy you with a drone at will, force you to pay for your college education, but provide immunity to those that attack American citizens at its borders and demand equal protection of the laws of the United States for free!

We are handing our sovereignty away as I listen right now to a smiling Barack Obama discuss with Ken Salazar, the new Interior Secretary how each is planning to move further toward this goal of substantially limiting the civil rights of American citizens and providing unlimited access to all services to anyone that happens to drop into the United States on a plane or taking a day trip over the borders of the 48 contiguous states.

My children have lost copious amounts of their privacy and freedoms because of the Patriot Act and the DHS Act.

We've got to repeal these laws and re-establish directives which will ensure that my grandchildren will be accepted and respected as a citizen, which is more than an illegal immigrant within the United States.

If this does not occur, what can Capitol Hill expect from those that are injured by these acts by politicians that are severely constraining the freedoms of citizens and favoring - legally favoring persons that arrive here unlawfully and intend to continue to commit crimes but will be relieved of all charges?

What would these politicians do if their families' security were threatened in this manner?

Why has this group of persons forgotten why this nation was created in the first place?

And when that first US citizen family reacts - what will happen?

They will be "drawn and quartered" before the press and the entire nation - called "enemy combatants" as if they did something wrong but merely defended their family from domestic terror.

The "writing is on the wall" that these are the things forthcoming.

Let's erase it before things get out of hand.

Fools make hasty decisions and fail to think through the consequences of those decisions.

Wisdom delays and reconsiders what the best outcome will be for the majority of persons.

Members of Congress in this current 113th Congress have hastily written more laws than ever in the history of Congress.

What fools they are.

(Evidently, baldeagle22 hasn't seen the excessively and carelessly littered walking paths that stretch along the Arizona border into Mexico showing that his assertions are not the reality - if our alleged border patrol was doing its job - let them pick up this trash then and start prosecuting illegal immigrants. I haven't seen them do this whatsoever.)

"temporary worker visas" - aka - time period where an immigrant can reside legally long enough to find out exactly how to live in the country illegally.

Work visas are dismal failures in Europe. Immigrants come over, work and when the visa is up and it's time to go home they disappear into the underground economy.

Great idea!

Got their butt's kicked? What? Obama won by only a few percentage points. And that was running against competition so bad, many Independents and Republicans who would have voted for a good Republican candidate didn't even show up to vote.

And you think Fox news is spouting off propaganda...

They got their AZZes kicked and I am an Independent that would have voted for a Jon Huntsman, or Mitch Daniels, or Christie or a Scoop Jackson Democrat. Unfortunately, the Republican Party has become the party of hate with their Tea Party/ White Trailer Trash/ Klan and their Christian Taliaban/ White trailer trash. I am a middle aged white guy that is in the top 10% of Federal Tax Payers and I can't vote for the racist trash that the GOP has become. For my job I have traveled and lived all over the world, including Latin American and Mexico so I do have a different perspective on it. Immigration is what has and will make this country strong, if they want to assimilate if not we will Balkanize the country which we are to some extent. We can give all 11 to 20 million illegals amnesty today and BUSINESS will import 11 million more illegals shortly thereafter. Because the american consumer wants cheap stuff. I went to grad school in AZ and they complain about illegals as they buy their cheap house made by illegals and have their lawns done by illegals. The immigrants we need are the educated ones from Eastern Europe, India, China etc. the ones that start businesses and create jobs rather than take them. We have to fix the current problem but border security is and will always be a joke, because the fat lazy American Consumre wants their cheap TVs. In the 70s Nixon as part of an "Operation Condor" searced every car and person coming accross the legal entries and businesses SCREAMED, you tighten up security to much and your cheap TVs are going to get more expensive.

DM57...First, you watch too much liberal TV. If you think every conservative/Republican is like the "Tea Party/ White Trailer Trash/ Klan and their Christian Taliaban", then you have been brainwashed. I can post a page full of some very reprehensible comments by liberals and Democrats, but I'm not stupid enough to believe that it represents all liberals and Democrats.

As far as immigration is concerned, I agree with some of your concepts, but you are off on some points.

Australia has a problem with illegals coming from Malaysia, southeast Asia, India, the ME, etc., but not nearly to the extent the U.S. does. Do you know why? Because they enforce their immigration laws against employers. And that is all that has to be done to almost completely stop illegal immigration. If they can't find a job here, the ones here will leave. And others will not come in the first place.

Like many Americans, I could care less if I have to pay $2-4 dollars more for a meal at a restaurant if I know the persons busing tables and washing dishes are American or legal immigrants. I live in an area in Texas where my auto insurance is more expensive because of, impart, the illegals driving without insurance. So if I buy a tomato in store that you might say is cheaper because an illegal picked it doesn't mean in the long run it didn't cost me more. In fact, I've already paid for part of the increased cost whether I buy the tomato or not.

Regarding border security, sadly you're right. And here is the proof:

'This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this." - Senator Kennedy, 1986

"never again"? Yeah, right. And as we know the borders were never sealed.

You said, "...if they want to assimilate,..." And that is of profound importance. Hispanics, and primarily Mexicans, are moving into the U.S. at such a rate that they need not assimilate. In many areas in the U.S., a person can wake up to a radio alarm clock, listen to a traffic report on TV, drop the kids off at school and talk to the teacher and principal, go to the post office, the doctor, the grocery store and work, drive home listening to music, watch TV all night before going to bed and never need to speak or hear a single word of English the entire day.

We no longer have a melting pot, where different ores are melted together to make steel stronger than the original ores. Now we have a salad bowl. It's mixed together, but the lettuce and tomatoes are always separate and distinct. And if you are a student of history, you know diversity often end in conflict and sometimes division.

Now you hush up, "robert", or the commies will come and cut off the 'lectricity to yer bunker.

Glactus... Impossible. Even Congress understands that.

So was it okay when Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to illegals? He didn't offer anything in the way of punishment but pure amnesty. That signaled the desire for America to accept the cheap labor those illegals provide and that they were welcome. Eventually they would likely get amnesty again.

Galactus 999 is absolutley correct. All illegals need to be picked up and deported, all of them and this includes their anchor babies as well. Why hasn't Obamas illegal Aunt and illegal Uncle been deported?

So, "galactus" and "gtr"...What is your plan? Now that the Republicans are turning their backs on the scum that is the "tea" party, who are you going to get to implement your non-existent plan? The Great Kreskin? I don't want ANY of my tax dollars to be spent on your little magic wands...

The nazis were at least subtle in the beginning - you two sound more like nazis than the nazis!

By the way, "gtr"...the proper grammar is "Why haven't Obama's...blahblahblah" Were you home schooled on a compound of some sort?

Because the fat lazy American consumer wants their cheap stuff. "Don't use illegals in construction" "except for my house", etc, etc etc. We will give this 11 million amnesty and then import 11 million more to be the illegals.

My ancestors came to North America in the 1500s and we've been here ever since. I also have ancestors who came in the late 1800s all came looking for something better than they had back home. Some came legally while others were stowaways on ships headed for the new world. When they arrived they did menial labor. They worked in mines, broke their backs creating the railroad system that made transportation of people and goods possible during the industrial age and since. They toiled on farms eking out a living on rocky soil of the Blue Ridge Mountains because others had all the good land but they didn't mind because they were here in the land of opportunity. Since the we've seen 16 generations of one branch of our family in North America. We are in all sorts of careers. Some of us are successful and others not so much.

The people in question now want the same things our ancestors wanted. They want to provide a better life for their children and themselves.

By the way I notice you mention federal republic. Is there no democracy to be mentioned by you. Or do you oppose democracy?

We have a democratic representative republic for a reason.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. Works out perfect, if you're a wolf.

My ancestors came to North America around 12,000 years ago, the were not lazy like your ancestors were either, they walked here with dreams of a better future, as their descendants now do the same.

the other side of my ancestry came around 1492, long before our country was founded, if anything it is your ancestors that were the first illegal immigrants Justis.

I am an American Mexican, and my people were here long before yours ever thought to come and take what they liked because it was their god given destiny. Deport yourselves Justis before you talk of deporting others!!

bald what law makes US taxpayers responsible for providing a better life for everyone in the world?

So you believe anyone that puts one foot on US soil is automatically a citizen?

Does that include radical Muslims, Drug Czars, or even the masked men from Acapulco?

"viknat", You will, of course, being the person of integrity that you are, provide us with verifiable documentation that every ancestor of yours that came to this country did so legally. If you can not, being a person of integrity, then get the hell out. The sooner the better for all who find inbreeding deplorable.

Live by your own rules or run the risk of being called a complete hypocrite...something I am sure you are very accustomed to.

HypnoticFreedom,

Why did you stop at 12,000 years? Why not trace your ancestors back to the point where the ones that came here 12,000 years ago and the ones that came in 1492 were common ancestors. You do know that both of them in fact have common ancestors, right?

So what happened is one group of them came here from the West and a few thousand years later their cousins came here from the East.