The U.S. Postal Service lost $15.9 billion last year....now they are eliminating Saturday deliveries. I have a great idea!!....let's have this same government take over management of our health care system!!

The U.S. Postal Service lost $15.9 billion last year....now they are eliminating Saturday deliveries. I have a great idea!!....let's have this same government take over management of our health care system!!

Yes, because any system that brings new customers to private sector health insurance is socialism.

Remember...Health Care Reform BAD!!!...Resolution forcing people to keep Terri Schiavo alive GOOD!!!

Does this really surprise anyone???? Our President never intended to sign legislation that was co-written by republicans. He has found a way out of it. Now he can propose HIS OWN legislation. What a POS our POTUS is. Look who's now the party of NO. This country will be so much better off when we get rid of progressives in government.

Da Noid -

Remember...Health Care Reform BAD!!!...Resolution forcing people to keep Terri Schiavo alive GOOD!!!

The reform isn't bad, it is how it is being paid for that is bad. As far as Schiavo a decision between her and her husband was made. It was no one else's business.

Morgs - her parents were the ones who were taking care of her and they wanted to continue to keep her alive. Her husband had moved on in his life. That whole situation was very unfortunate for the family and I didn't see anything wrong with elected officials siding with the family of Terry. But some elected officials have no problem siding with killing. Have you heard about Obama being judge, jury, and executioner with his drones against American citizens?

Secure the borders and allow a reasonable path to citizenship for all the "undocumented" already here.

That sounds reasonable to me......therefore, the president and the progressives will not go for it.

Reagan was promised a secure border in exchange for amnesty and never got it. We should learn from these mistakes. NO REFORM OR PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ANYONE UNTIL THE BORDERS ARE SECURE. If you do not secure the borders first (all the borders) you send the message that the doors are wide open and that we are pushovers and this situation will revisit us - again and again. The only reason not to secure the borders is that those against it want the flow of illegals to continue. And yes, I call them illegals because that is what they are. They are entering the country illegally - without permission - without documentation.

JH-479998 - If my memory serves me she was married at the time she went comatose making this her husbands decision. Her parents wishes are secondary. If they were divoriced, which maybe, it has been a while, then it would be her parents decision. Very simple. No need to politics.

Drones, yeah, this is way wrong. If Dems defend it, they also must defend Bush's actions or deal with their own hypocrisy and not put us through it.

Or you could be Beau "No regard for peoples safety" Biden, and abolish sheriffs from arresting anyone!

I have several Illegal Firearms, but prefer to call them Undocumented Firearms.

JFK2012. If you have Illegal or undocumented firearms, we will feed them for you, give them free education, free housing, free bullets and anything else your Illegals desire.

These disgusting advocates for lawbreaking are willing to promote the wholesale sell out and destruction of the American and LEGAL immigrant worker in favor of ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS. They DO NOT have the best interests of the U.S. at heart or in mind. Further, our Leaders who pander to this type of demand are despicable! ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and the blackmarket labor scheme that accompanies it exacts enormous costs-- financial and otherwise-- upon the American citizens and our taxpayer resources!

Our elected leaders are supposed to represent the the best interests of AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS rather than tripping over each other to sell out the American worker(whose opportunities and rights are being devastated) in favor of the ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS, their offspring, and their insufferable advocates!

Pledging rewards and special treatment incident to immigration lawbreaking is the WORST WAY to demonstrate any future commitment to enforce our immigration laws. Reagan's 1986 Amnesty is Exhibit A evidencing the fact that rewarding ILLEGALITY only serves to further incentivize MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS MORE INSTANCES OF LAWBREAKING IN THE FUTURE? WHERE DOES IT END?

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!

Hope: The U.S. Postal Service lost $15.9 billion last year....now they are eliminating Saturday deliveries. I have a great idea!!....let's have this same government take over management of our health care system!!

The US Post Office has for many years functioned as a separate entity. It is not a part of the government.

He can do what he wants... the election is over.

In four years, his party can throw him and his reputation under the bus, swear they will honor all campaign promises if voters will just put the party back in the White House, and loyal Democrats will do it all over again.... as will loyal Republicans.

We will just have to wait and see if the president will do what is best for the country or what is best for the millions of illegal aliens sucking the country dry of resources.

Who in their right mind would expect 12 million people who were too impatient to try to enter America legally, will now agree to record their presents and where abouts, submit to back ground checks, pay fines, back taxes, learn English and go to the back of the line ?

When all the political posturing, hoopla and song and dance are over most of the 12 million illegal immigrants in America will still be in the country illegally.

If we go after employers who employ illegal immigrants and make it a 4th class felony to hire one, the illegal immigration problem will go away , pronto!!!

Secure the borders first is critical before any legal citizenship will be considered. Otherwise not citizenship.

Ellis: But that just makes TOO much sense!!

Penalize employers with HEAVY fines if caught hiring an illegal immigrant (the fine must be significantly higher than the benefits of a lower cost cash paid worker). As you say "problem will go away".

If Illegals can't find work they have only one choice - go home. There would be 12 million illegal immigrants looking for the fastest way to get home.

How can liberals NOT support such a plan? If someone here illegally they should not be able to work, should not get a drivers license, and should not get a place to stay. The ONLY reason they stay is because they can make more money here than back home. Fix that and they go home.

JH - wrong again. Terry Schiavo's husband was STILL the primary person responsible for her care. He had actually taken courses in nursing so he could work with her. He HAD moved on with his life and had a new woman in his life but he still had the primary care and responsibility for Terry. He had never signed her care over to her parents.

When he finally accepted that she would NEVER recover he took the steps he took. He DID NOT kill her - he took her off all life support. Had she been able to function without any support, she would have lived. However, all doctors who attended her had declared that her brain was - effectively - totally not functioning.

He made the choice that he and Terry had discussed at one point after witnessing a devastating accident and he had every right to make that choice.

At least TRY to get your information right!

toxic

Secure the borders and allow a reasonable path to citizenship for all the "undocumented" already here.

That sounds reasonable to me......therefore, the president and the progressives will not go for it.

Your are correct we have laws which our federal government has failed to implement effectively.

We need to do the job we have put in place(LAWS).

Yet our current government wants us to believe that new legislation will fix resolve the immigration issue

NOT. They want all this recognizition for accomplishing and addressing the issue, NOT.

We have addressed the issue and you are not enforcing the LAWS. PITIFUL FAILURE

No immigration law is going to be effective if you aren't or can't enforce the current ones.

Waste of time and $$ DO YOUR JOBS.......

Our government is so inefficient or effective its ridiculous

Joker - yes, you are a joker. Our CURRENT administration has been more effective than any other adminstration in deporting illegals and controlling the borders. At least TRY to get your facts straight!

SS,
The Secure Fence Act of 2006’s goal is to help secure America’s borders to decrease illegal entry, drug trafficking, and security threats by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border.
Have they done that or did DHS de-fund it?

Seeking Sanity - I have told you many times to keep seeking and yuo MIGHT find some.

Everybody has their facts screwed up but you? What's it like being so smart?

Go read the Trri Schiavo book written by Diana Lynne, "Terri's Story: The Court-Ordered Death of an American Woman". Then come back and tell me my facts are wrong. But then again your reading comprehension is very poor so I don't expect you to gain anything from actually reading a book.

Every one of your posts is nothing but telling someone that you are so much smarter than they are. You are really something. I just want to be like you someday.

JH - the point is YOU have NO facts - just your typical posting of nothing shot of lies. The book was written at the behest of Terri's parents and can hardly be called facts - by anyone who possesses common sense.

Her husband did what they had discussed prior to her accident. Even then he waited YEARS before taking her off life support. Her parents WANTED to be the decision makers but they weren't.

Whoever read the book to you didn't explain the big words very well - plus, it's a totally biased book due to the fact that her parents didn't care that there was no hope for her. They worried more about what THEY were going through than her wishes.

The government should have stayed completely OUT of the entire matter.

No little JH - try again with something you might actually know about. Still seeking sanity in the Republican party but you and the other far right idiots prove there is no hope for sanity! NONE!

Penalize employers with HEAVY fines if caught hiring an illegal immigrant (the fine must be significantly higher than the benefits of a lower cost cash paid worker). As you say "problem will go away".

If Illegals can't find work they have only one choice - go home. There would be 12 million illegal immigrants looking for the fastest way to get home.

How can liberals NOT support such a plan?

Actually, I'm fairly liberal ... and I DO support such a plan. I think many liberals do, because the see the fines falling where they need to - on the businesses (and individuals) who hire illegals to save a buck and give away American jobs.

I think the point you're missing with your "liberal" jab is this is really a more centrist point of view. I think the majority of us may lean a little left or lean a little right are really centrist ... but name calling and making "liberal" and "conservative" a pejorative gets us no where.

Seeking's compelling posts, since MONDAY. WOW!!! All of this junk from someone who is "on and off" this board! People - have some fun, and see how many times she called someone an idiot, moron, or stupid. Get your abacus ready.:

• Boehner: DREAM Act 'worthy of consideration'

  Wed Feb 6, 2013

  • txmom - again you post nothing but stupidity.
  • hs321 - considering that the only ones who could vote are citizens, your stupid amnesty post is ludicrous - at best!
  • tresorier - of course you can become citizen. There is absolutely a law for that. My sister-in-law became a citizen last November. Try again!

• Progressives pressure Obama on immigration reform triggers

  Wed Feb 6, 2013

  • JH - wrong again. Terry Schiavo's husband was STILL the primary person responsible for her care. He had actually taken courses in nursing so he could work with her.
  • Joker - yes, you are a joker. Our CURRENT administration has been more effective than any other adminstration in deporting illegals and controlling the borders.
  • JH - the point is YOU have NO facts - just your typical posting of nothing shot of lies.
  • Morgs74 - we do not have millions of illegals in our prison system. We don't even have THOUSANDS of illegals in our prison system. Try again!
  • John Doe - unfotunately no matter how many classes you attend you will never lose your tendency to sound like a total moron!
  • upset - the far right refuses to admit THEY are the source of hatred in this country.
  • rukidding - the idiots are the right wingers and you prove that daily with your idiotic posts!
  • dogs80 - try again.

• Conservative group blasts Ashley Judd as 'Obama-following, radical, Hollywood liberal'

  Wed Feb 6, 2013

  • Well if Karl Rove says she's bad we know she would actually be a very good representative! Jeepgal- stick to the sticks where you belong.
  • oliverb - and don't forget his frantic running in circles the night of the election when Ohio was called.
  • Backcountry - again with the lie that liberals have problems with people who are rich. But of course, you have to lie to have anything to say.
  • backcountry - GWB is in Texas. He can't leave the country because the World Court has a warrant out for him, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield - for war crimes.

• President Obama to visit Israel this spring

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • Let's get real - what can Republicans say? They can't accuse him of going to garner more votes - nope.
  • txmom32 - your poor children being raised by a blithering moron like you! Crawl back under your rock!
  • Govt Slave - you're a disgusting moron - the perfect Republican! You stoop lower than low and you're comfortable with it. Sick!
  • txmom- reading comprehension skills are not your strong suit are they? I NEVER attacked your children. On the contrary - I pity anyone who is reared by an idiot like you.
  • txmom - your children were barely mentioned in my post except that I pity them for being your children. You have nothing to say about anything that isn't denigrating to our Preside …
  • chick - that's my guess. LOL As I said, reading comprehension is clearly NOT txmom's strong suit. However, she's from Texas so we don't expect much!
  • chick - I'm still laughing about "birthering idiot." Tried looking it up but all it had was a photo of txmom!
  • Feisty - someone has to be a total lowlife to blame Gabby Giffords for getting shot but I believe that totally describes txmom.
  • Hightidetim - that's not even a decent effort! Surely you can do better. Get with txmom and you can come up with something - you know - like a "birthering idiot!" LOL
  • oskar - OMG when does your ignorance and total lies end? Stop listening to Rush - you just prove over and over again what a mental midget you truly are. Fesity and Chick - where d …
  • Jody and Allen - their little heads will explode when the Puerto Rico issue comes up! All those spanish speaking people - they'll freak out!
  • Pat G - what an idiot!!!! Going around the world on someone else's dime? He's the PRESIDENT you buffoon! He is SUPPOSED TO meet with foreign leaders.
  • drive-by-observer - Dotties girl is bereft of any intelligent thought but she spews the far right talking points as often as she can.
  • Feisty - all of us know Dotties girl is a total idiot. Maybe she's txmom's daughter????
  • B56Grunt - let's see, you've posted what of relevance? You should probably leave my panties out of this since you couldn't play with the big kids if you tried.
  • Mifo - well now you've gone and done it! We're NEVER supposed to mention the secret decoder ring!!!!
  • AlaskaGirl - Oh right - would NEVER mention that or you're right - hell will break loose. Mifo - no mentioning the other thing - letting it slip about the ring was bad enough.
  • Matt- no we should have done that while Bush was in office. We won't lock a good man like President Obama out. Now Congress - that's another matter!
  • Pat G - I'm guessing you were oxygen deprived for a significant period of time when you were born. No one could possibly be so idiotic otherwise.
  • chick - like I said, they're crawling out of the sewers today as evidenced by stimulating.. and Johnny-147.... They're perfect little rightwingers!
  • republican - another right wing moron heard from. The sewers must be empty today with all of you coming up to post! You do bring a certain stench with you when you visit!
  • stimulatingsolutions - they do smell a lot like rotting fish - I agree. But it's defnintely mixed with that sewer smell - oh wait - that's emanating from you! Ooops!
  • pyrate - your post says everything about you. Voted for Bush, twice, didn't ya? LOL What a total moron!!!!
  • UK-American - you're a sick pervert. Disgusting and a traitor to this country. YOU and your ilk are the terrorists and should be dealt with accordingly!
  • Hightidetim - you clearly wouldn't know a true American no matter what. Which sewer did you crawl out from this morning?

• Obama calls for at least short-term fix with cuts, revenue to avoid sequester

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • JoDepper - the President has proposed a budget each year he's been in office. Please try to keep up!
  • JoDepper - clearly you listen to Rush - religiously. Your dementia is evident for all!
  • viknat - idiot. President Obama has still taken far fewer vacations during the same amount of time than Bush took.

• Top Republican tries to usher GOP past dollars and cents

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • Simple Theory - you need to get something straight. You don't talk for "most" Americans.
  • onermailliw - who is owebama? Sounds like a Cantor word to me and makes about as much sense. We have President Obama but again, who is owebama?
  • Ferrosynthesis - "nycguy are you stupid or crazy?" I believe a safe answer would be BOTH!

• Judge denies George Zimmerman request to delay trial in Trayvon Martin case

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • Chris - the prosecution has two expert witnesses that can blow the case out of the water.
  • OldDog - won't find any sanity with you and your ilk as your post clearly shows.
  • Roadrunnero - but the coroner DID check out Trayvon's hands and has photos, etcl, as does the funeral director.
  • greg - the original withness said she told them Zimmerman was on top of Martin but the police corrected her and told her what she saw.
  • Gary - the thug was clearly Zimmerman not Trayvon. Trayvon was a kid who did nothing to get killed for. WildRedd - not even mildly true.
  • WildRedd - in your dreams. He'll be in jail - hopefully for life - which is where he belongs for committing murder!
  • Justin - your post says more about you than it does about anyone else. And, none of what it says is good!
  • SHar - check out WildRedd's posts and you'll see he's sick!
  • kpm58 - Zimmerman DID NOT follow advice of the dispatcher. Trayvon got no advice since he was talking with his girlfriend when attacked by Zimmerman!
  • jbryd24 - WildRedd's post show a total lack of anything resembling a brain. Do you think he sleeps in his white hood at night?

• Cantor's shift on immigration

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • Okay, who IS pretending to be Cantor these days and what did they do with the REAL Eric Cantor? Scary really!
  • Morgs74 - you are an irrelevant thing. Are you happy now?
  • Jack - just went back and saw it. Great post and thank you for supporting me! You're the BEST! Feisty - at least Christie has a sense of humor. Saw him on Letterman last night.

• VIDEO: First Read Minute: Cantor's day: English lit majors, be forewarned

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • In Chicago there is a school that is teaching math and science through art. The students are excelling in all of their subjects and it is a direct result of the art being taught.
  • Allen - and when you're just behind, with no leadership skills whatsoever - like Cantor - what does that fall under? Sheish! The guy is clueless!

• First Thoughts: Flooding the zone

  Tue Feb 5, 2013

  • Jack in Portsmouth - I believe you covered the subject well. My hat (if I wore one) is off to you!

• Obama on guns: 'We're not going to wait until the next Newtown'

  Mon Feb 4, 2013

  • ibsleepy - and apparently you slept through everything. Connecticut officals have disclosed over and over again that the Bushmaster was the gun used to mow down 26 people.
  • JimSpence - your posts show such low IQ it is almost impossible to take you seriously.
  • JimSpence - I believe this has been explained to you over and over again. President Obama has submitted a budget every year he's been in office.
  • TrollHarder - what a childish, immature, nothing post. Re-read what you posted. You said nothing of value whatsoever.
  • Viewer Ready - your vocabulary shows you have the "shooting" ability of a bb gun.
  • MontereyJim - no YOU and everyone like you killed them. You might just as well have pulled the trigger because you truly don't give a damn that they are dead.
  • geo - idiot. Because those getting the guns go outside the state and get them without background checks then bring them back in.
  • Phil - your ignorance is compounded by your eagerness to post it - and look even more imbecilic every time you do.
  • Phil - when those people infringe on the rights of sane, responsible people I will comment.
  • cantakenomore - and I see there is still no sanity in the far right.
  • Phil - all you do with every post is show how totally ignorant and incapable of rational thought you are. Keep it up - it's humorous!
  • truther - you post NOTHING but lies. There was an AR15 at Sandy Hook as reported by the Troopers but of couse YOU know better! LIAR or are you just spouting stupid Rush lies.
  • fullspirit - stop listening to Rush - according to the Connecticut police the Bushmaster is the gun that was used to kill the 26 while the handgun was used by the shooter to kill h …
  • whiskey eye - you show how totally moronic gun owners can be. You fear your government? You're am imbecile.
  • ed - what a sad, inept little man you are. Since I and most of my friends work my guess is you're talking from your own lazy experience.
  • justredd64 - read your own post. It says everything about you! You're a disgusting moron and you post for all to see exactly what a lowlife you are!
  • skibum - as usual - your reading comprehension skills are non-existent.
  • Oh, and to the ignorant who say banning assault weapons would be unconstitutional: Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens called for Congress to tighten gun laws in the wa …
  • Jontho - you're beating you head against the wall. The rightwingers are irrational and frankly could not care less about the people killed in Newtown.
  • Nikki and DingleB - you know nothing about anything and you show it with your ignorant posts. And idiot Nikki - I work - what the hell do you do but spread lies? I don't believe …
  • Buckhunter - The Bushmaster was used to kill all 26 - the handgun was used by the killer to shoot himself.
  • Buckhunter - What Justice Stevens said - and it was prior to the Newtown shootings - is that the 2nd Amendment isn't unchangeable.
  • OldDog - as I said, the 2nd amendment is not unchangeable - exactly what you then re-iterated then told me to try to understand.
  • sfcret - you know absolutely NOTHING but post it for all to see.
  • Oh and sfcret - I don't need an idiot like you to enlighten me since you know nothing but spew it every chance you get!
  • Bookem' - and don't forget to look under your bed tonight Danno because the boogeyman is hiding there! Sheish! You guys are truly dumb!

• Hagel filibuster would be historic

  Mon Feb 4, 2013

  • Snne - the difference - Hagel's comments were from YEARS ago. Mitt changed his mind daily - sometimes more often. Do you understand NOW????
  • Jack - you have more self-control than I do today and I commend you for it!
  • Jack - thank you sir. I totally lost my temper with the gun lovers today. It's frightening they believe the nonsense they post about the government taking over their guns.

• Tagg Romney not running for Senate

  Mon Feb 4, 2013

  • Darn - that could have really been fun!!!!
  • Bob - yes Romney did something no other candidate since Dukakis has done - he missed the inauguration for the man who beat him. And, no one has seen him for a LONG time.
  • Anthony - what the hell are you talking about? The only idiot here is YOU!
  • Adler - just realized Anthony was on the wrong post - trying to post on Kerry saying he has big heels to fill. I've done that too!
  • Sane - I don't hate Tagg nor do I hate Mitt. I just don't care for them and would NEVER want either of them in a position of "leadership" since neither has that ability.
  • Believe'n - I definitely DID not want Mitt the nitwit to be President. No doubt about it. However, I don't hate the man.
  • Alan - ridiculous post. You should have checked it first. USAID was set up long ago - not by Obama.

• Kerry: 'I have big heels to fill'

  Mon Feb 4, 2013

  • txmom32- I pity any children you raise. You are so hell-bent on hatred you have no rational way to judge the job people do.
  • Jody - just read that! I'm SOOOO glad! I just hope he didn't have to see them kill his abductor. He'll have a hard time getting over that!
  • Joe - I'd rather be a liberal than a lowlife Repulican like the crazies on here who go ballistic when anyone talks about guns.
  • realist - you've earned our respect for serving.
  • Jarhead - VietNam was a huge mistake for our country. However, I have the utmost respect for every soldier who served.
  • Bill - pure and simple, you're an A**. No one I know sits on their butts - except probably you! We have jobs and pay taxes.
  • Believe'nAmerica - McCain is a small, childish, bitter "man" who is responsible for a lot of the BS that goes on in Washington. He is in the thick of it. He perpetuates it.
  • nycguy - Kerry had NO phony medals - he earned every medal he received. Just ask the men who served with and still respect him.
  • Johntho - Sane clearly isn't and it shows with every disgusting post he makes. Just ignore him - he's not worth the effort!
  • Tom2 - LOL!!! FACTS from FOX, the station that makes it up as they go along? Please - they don't care for facts and discard them like most of us discard garbage.
  • Saron - you're a blithering idiot. Kerry did NOT insult Hillary. And, YOU have no idea about his service. Those who served with him would disagree with your slander of Kerry.
  • Bill - "is he gay also?" No dear, that would be you! Exactly how close are you with Lindsey Graham????
  • Robo - you are going to be SOOOOOO upset in 2016!!!!! Get used to Madam President!

• VIDEO: First Read Minute: Democrats set to take quarter of a loaf on guns?

  Mon Feb 4, 2013

  • Roy - again you're posting nonsense. NO ONE is saying people shouldn't have a gun at home.
  • simpletonian - I am in favor of people being able to have handguns and rifles if they pass a background check; register the gun; and are properly trained.
  • simpletonian - any domestic violence conviction or conviction for assault.
  • Jody - well said! Sensible and something rational people should be able to get behind!
  • simpletonian - If someone is convicted of domestic violence they shouldn't own a gun.
  • Layton - I'm pretty sure the database could just easily say "no, cannot purchase a gun." Doesn't have to give the details of why!
  • Steeler - other countries don't permit people to have guns like we do. That would be the issue!
  • Steeler - the NRA is today's mafia - nothing more and certainly nothing less. They have no problem with people being killed - it's good for business.
  • just - I'm registered to vote and registered to own a car. If you have a problem with registering to own a gun - you probably shouldn't be able to!
  • justaplumber - you obviously don't deserve a gun if you can't be registered to have one!

• McCain compares Iranian leader to monkey; draws GOP charge of racism

  Mon Feb 4, 2013

  • John McCain has become a total embarrassment. How does a person go from being a respected memeber of the Senate to a bumbling old fool? Sheish!
  • truthseeker - your posts show that your ignorance is far greater than a monkey! That would definitely be a step up for you. Feisty - it's amazing the right wingers on this site ca …
  • Txmom - no one is defending Iran's President. But, as a persn who is a leader in the Senate, you are expected to have the sense not to poke a stick at the snake.
  • wire10221 - your post shows you're a great Republican - vulgar, crude and totally classless. Yep a perfect fit! Lanikai - as usual you post nothing but nonsense.
  • troy1960 - it's been racist since white people began to call blacks monkeys as a put down. If you don't know that - you don't know much!
  • Jake - one veteran was suffering from PTSD and was being helped by two other veterans - one of whom was an often decorated Seal.
  • stimulatingsolutions - it's very sad that whatever caused the soldier to break happened.
  • truthseeker - you've posted the same disgusting post over and over again. It clearly shows you lack the intelligence to even come up with another post - much less make any sense.
  • skibum609 - probably as many progressives served as conservatives. That is not the point.

Bycrackee - you're a total waste of time - make sure you post that!

looks like ALL of that posted in 1.26 is a waste of time .. the original content AND bothering to repost it.

The saddest waste of time is spending day in, day out on a message board calling people names.

Have fun with that...

Beth - I've read your "original content" and believe me, you're in NO position to judge anyone. But, clearly Bycrackee has no life. So sad, really!

Reagan was promised a secure border in exchange for amnesty and never got it. We should learn from these mistakes. NO REFORM OR PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ANYONE UNTIL THE BORDERS ARE SECURE.

I think that requirement that the borders be secure before proceeding with the rest of the package is vital. But, the article does raise a valid point. How do we OBJECTIVELY measure "secure"?

Posting 1.26 is an example of why there should be length limits. I spent a lot of time scrolling over his posting.

Sanity - let's review "no life":

a) Hours and hours and hours daily posting (calling names) on an Internet message board.

b) A post here and there, and 20 seconds to copy and paste.

I'll go with B.

ToxicChemist - "Secure the borders and allow a reasonable path to citizenship for all the "undocumented" already here. That sounds reasonable to me......."

The balanced approach sounds reasonable. One side of the argument will not get all they want without some accommodation to the other.

Secure the border, define path to citizenship, in that order.

The number of Border Patrol Agents doubled from 2004-2011. From 2008-2011, the number went up 18% alone. You may have missed this fact because Conservatives would rather talk about the death of one agent than the addition of thousands of others (and maybe they're government jobs so they don't count).

Who is going to pay for it Maxx, you don't want to pay your fair share of taxes and the rich don't want to pay more, does that mean I have to step up on my $219.36 pension?

I am lost, and hope I do not get sent to the penalty boxfor being off sides. I need help with this AP post.

DEARBORN, Mich. — Hundreds of people, including some of Michigan's political elite, gathered Monday to celebrate the late Rosa Parks on what would have been her 100th birthday by unveiling a postage stamp in her honor steps from the Alabama bus on which she stared down segregation nearly 60 years ago.

Highlights are mine.

Why?

da noid,

I don't give a rat's rear end about the number border agents and who's going to pay for it!!

CLOSE THE BORDER then let's talk... PERIOD!!

Johntho,

We have 2 trillion dollars in revenue and another trillion on the china credit card... so there is PLENTY of money... Obama is going to look out for you as far as your pension is concerned especially if your a union thug worker... that's why you voted for him right...so the government can take care of you... he bought your vote just like all the other low information voters!!

Johntho

Who is going to pay for it Maxx

Deporting the millions we have in our prison system would free up untold amounts of money. But deporting isn't in the best interests of either party because of lost revenue whether it be for taxes or whether it be to pay for inmate housing or the big one....votes.

Da Noid. Why are even arguing this... must be a liberal talking point.

Johntho,

Do you live in a border state? I do, and the last thing we need is more people crossing the border.

Trust and verify, verify, verify. Nothing should happen until we get proof the borders are secure, and funding in place to continue border protection.

Maxx and the totas ....

The problem is NOT people crossing the border, the problem is with people that are already here . . .

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/23/net-migration-from-mexico-falls-to-zero-and-perhaps-less/

A bigger fence isn't needed. And the totas, the only border state that has seen an increase is Texas. All of the rest have been down for years.

I understand what the Republicans are doing.

1. Put hispanic looking young Republican Senator on panel for "immigration reform."

2. Require border security before path to citizenship.

3. Pass immigration reform bill, giving credit to #1, #2 being mandatory.

4. Pass budget and appropriations bills "fighting to cut the deficit" and cutting funds for border security, making #3 impossible.

5. #1 runs for President, safe and secure with immigration reform law passed and no new immigrants getting citizenship because of #3.

Bait and switch, lie, cheat, steal, Nothing new, just the same old Republican tricks dressed up with new labels. Seems like the entire party went to the same class on semantics.

The number of Border Patrol Agents doubled from 2004-2011. From 2008-2011, the number went up 18% alone. You may have missed this fact because Conservatives would rather talk about the death of one agent than the addition of thousands of others (and maybe they're government jobs so they don't count).

Yea, and obama moved some of our border patrol stations 30+ miles north of the border, disallowed ICE agents from picking up known illegals, etc. Why don't you tell the full truth? According to the GAO, we're only catching an estimated 60% of the illegal crossers, is that good enough for you?

The progressives want open borders, they've always wanted that, that is why they are against border enforcement and triggers. At least their agenda is being made completely public.

There can be no amnesty unless the border is controlled.

Bait and switch, lie, cheat, steal, Nothing new, just the same old Republican tricks dressed up with new labels. Seems like the entire party went to the same class on semantics.

Your politicians went to the same damn class, fess up the truth lib.

Securing the borders will not stop illegal immigration even if it could be done. Almost half of undocumented immigrants come on vacation or visas and do leave. The problem has deeper roots. This country needs better immigration laws. The US has almost 2000 miles of boarder with Mexico. Even if you could put up a fence that long over mountains, deserts and rivers, it would not stop people. If my dog can dig under my fence and get out, I think that any determined person can get over a border fence. The US also shares over 5500 miles of border with Canada and over 12,000 miles of coastline, does anyone think it can all be secured?

Pay for it? We're already paying for enforcement. The real question is, why haven't they done their jobs and prevented the number of illegals from swelling to over 11 million!?

You know the Obama Administration doesn't really care how many people cross the border into the U.S. He gives lip service to his deportation numbers prior to the election but has stopped ICE from enforcing immigration law. That is why 10 ICE agents have filed a Federal Law Suit against the Administration.

Layton,

The problem is NOT people crossing the border, the problem is with people that are already here . . .

I am talking about the people that will try and come, like they did when Reagan gave amnesty. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

the only border state that has seen an increase is Texas. All of the rest have been down for years.

What do you mean down for years?

Place landmines along the border or put motion sensors with firing capability that will discharge paintballs. That too will make the ones crossing very NOTICEABLE. Something needs to be done. If a show like Border Wars can be made, then that is still TOO MUCH CROSSING.

Morgs74 - we do not have millions of illegals in our prison system. We don't even have THOUSANDS of illegals in our prison system. Try again!

we do not have millions of illegals in our prison system. We don't even have THOUSANDS of illegals in our prison system. Try again!

You might want to try again. While we definitely don't have millions, we do have thousands of illegals in our prison system.

"The cost to American taxpayers is on track to top $2 billion for this year, and the companies are expecting their biggest cut of that yet in the next few years with government plans for new facilities to house the 400,000 immigrants detained annually."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57485392/ap-private-prisons-profit-from-illegal-immigrants/

Alex M - cite your source!

@Seeking,

Well, Jongone posted a link to one article, and I'm pretty sure you're a smart enough cookie to figure out Google.

Hey Chucky - your savior is now in his second term. The largest most lasting affect from the presidency of Obama is the exposure of real hatred and racism. The left is unbelievable. I realize that liberals don't believe that racism against whites even exists. Millions of whites now know that it does and is growing. Good luck with your prediction.

Swim back across the river Chucky b.. Take your drugs, diseased relatives, Tax dollars and OBAMA with you!!!

... racism against whites even exists. Millions of whites now know that it does and is growing.

yikes, whites hating whites ... how will we know who to hang from the tree?

Hey Vik - Are Ed and Catwoman the type of Hatriots you are referring to?

Ed wrote: "Swim back across the river Chucky b.. Take your drugs, diseased relatives, Tax dollars and OBAMA with you!!!"

Catwoman wrote: "how will we know who to hang from the tree?"

Do you really believe this type of hate is brought on by Obama - the guy with the 60% approval rating? I think not. This type of hate is limited to the dredges of our society and will never go away, no matter who is President.

upset-1557697

That would be Catman to you ... as to the rest of your inference in regard to my post ... I will give you a one time break.

60%? Upset- what poll is this from?

Chucky - Your ignorance and intolerant post are typical of your liberal world view.

yikes, whites hating whites ... how will we know who to hang from the tree?

Yea, because whites have never been hung in the history of our country you racist @!$%#.

upset - the far right refuses to admit THEY are the source of hatred in this country. And, you're right, President Obama's approval rating is above 60%, unlike the approval rating of Congress which is in the single digits. And, the approval rating for the Republican party is in the low 20's! Pretty much says it all!

Alex M - YOU are the racist idiot and you show it more every day!

Alex M - YOU are the racist idiot and you show it more every day!

Quote one racist comment I've posted.... just one.

I'd suggest getting laid, because even the other libs aren't as insulting and nasty as you. Hell, as rude as Fiesty is, at least she's cheery about it.

Alex,

Everyone knows that seeking is a bitter troll...every comment is a hatred diabtribe about the right...it's the typical response from a pea sized brain liberal like her...

Alex M & JK1963 - clearly the ones who can't get laid are you two. Why else would you make such a fuss over me. But, you'll never get a smart, successful, strong woman - we wouldn't look twice at either of you. You clearly like your women dumb and controllable! Sad little boys you are!

seeking,

Your comments alone are an indication that you are nothing but a whining little girl. You are hardly a strong, independent successful person. And trust me, no man in his right mind would ever want to get to know you let alone have a man that would want to get intimate with you. I can only imagine that the only man that would be into you would have to get paid... Good luck with that...

clearly the ones who can't get laid are you two. Why else would you make such a fuss over me. But, you'll never get a smart, successful, strong woman - we wouldn't look twice at either of you. You clearly like your women dumb and controllable! Sad little boys you are!

It's a good thing you don't know my wife because she would kick the living @!$%# out of you for calling her dumb and especially for calling her controllable :) She also is college educated and works in the medical industry. AND extremely independent.

Oh, and our sex life is very very healthy.

Don't let it brush your ego up that we posted to you, it was only to point out to you that you are an extremely rude, nasty female on these boards.

@ ronpal

Yep..... but you're a hater for thinking that way.

Ronpal, yeah, especially since the Bozobama already got all the illegal voters he could to vote for him in November, now he can toss 'em.

On which issue you dope ?

i guess that would depend on the main goal of the ad ---- if it's to discourage illegals, and it's effective, then it doesn't need to be accurate.

I would tell illegals anything to keep them out of America. I would say, "hey, in America, if you came here illegally, we will feed you to a lion." or "in America, illegal aliens are not arrested, they are shot on sight."

3...2...1...

i guess that would depend on the main goal of the ad ---- if it's to discourage illegals, and it's effective, then it doesn't need to be accurate.

Actually the goal of the ad was to elect Mitt Romney...so maybe it didn't have to be accurate after all.

Because we all know political ads are completely truthful.

just curious, but how would romney gain via an ad that advertises that there is an increase in the number of illegals being sent back across the border ???

Because we all know political ads are completely truthful.

Not Myth Romney's.

Ronpal:

just curious, but how would romney gain via an ad that advertises that there is an increase in the number of illegals being sent back across the border ???

Because the Myth was looking to do better than losing 91% of the Latino vote in places like Nevada - That's how.

that is totally illogical ----- an ad against mexican illegals could not help anyone gain hispanic votes. ------- the only votes a candidate could hope to gain from such an ad would be from potential voters who agreed with the position concerning illegals.

Whoa, we lost 91% of the Latino vote in Nevada? Bummer.

Liberals LOVE splitting people up into groups, you know "latinos" "women" "blacks" "gays" "seniors" "conservatives" "disenfranchised" because it makes it easier for them to scare Americans into voting for them.

Create a "War On _________" and point to some Conservative opponent, then tell your chosen demographic why that conservative is going to "take away your ______" even if it's not true, which let's face it, is pretty much all the time.

Divide and conquer.

DaNoid---I guess I'm too cynical but what I see is the GOP wanting to have their cake and eat it too. They want to say they've voted for immigration reform but put so many restrictions on it that it doesn't actually help anyone achieve citizenship.

oh yes, because securing the borders is such a horrible impediment to achieving citizenship. ------- i think, steelerfan, you need to check out the official immigration website, because apparently you are unaware of the red tape and requirements pertaining to LEGAL immigration.

So many restrictions? Asking to close the border is too much?

steeler,

My girlfriend is just such a person. Someone that is immigrating here LEGALLY. Would you care to wager how much she has paid in immigration and lawyer fees? The ONLY way that it would be fair to those that chose to honor our laws and migrate here legally would be for each and everyone that is illegal wanting citizenship to pony up roughly the same $15k per individual to become a citizen as she has done. How about that reality? Doing anything else would be a slap in the face of those that come here through legal means. Care to argue that point?

This just in...we have been kicking them out in record rates.

Perhaps we should have elected Mitt Romney who expected the intruder to leave on his own?

Or maybe we'll just elect some more bleeding-heart Liberals who see illegal immigration as a "voter drive".

yeah ---- kicking them out in record rates, BUT not keeping them out. ------ a policy like that doesn't help at all.

ED - You need help. I would advise that you stay off Hate radio for a while.

Maybe he should listen to Mike Malloy, right? The leftist progressive wingnut who called John McCain a liar about his time in a POW camp, and said when he was tortured it was "punishment from God".

Ed

That is all this President has ever done and the problem is the idiots who believe him.

PATHETIC

rukidding - the idiots are the right wingers and you prove that daily with your idiotic posts!

Can you back up any of that idiocy Eric? Perhaps a quote from Rush Limbaugh?

Don't get Upset. Rush is as bad as any of your guys, maybe worse. I go by facts, not propaganda.

As for backing it up, read the immigration reports the Justice Department has on file, submitted by INS in the late 90's.

upset,The Mexican government will indeed throw you in one of their prisons if you are found in their country illegally.They will let you out when you can pony up a bribe and they will escort you to the border.If you are driving in Mexico without their auto insurance and are in an accident(even if it's not your fault)you will be hauled down to the local police station.Then you will be asked to pony up the money for the other driver even if that driver is at fault.If you don't have that amount that they are asking for and nobody to wire it to you they will indeed put you in prison.

if you truly have worked with illegals, apparently it wasn't in all types of employment ----- i worked with illegals in the orchards in western colorado, and they are paid piece-rate, not by the hour, and the average take-home pay was at least double minimum wage.

Imagine this...a Liberal defending the rights of people who have violated the law!

Just because a billion Mexicans enter our country illegally does not make it legal, no matter what your representatives in Washington tell you.

I for one am glad they make less than minimum wage and have no insurance or legal recourse. If they came into this country LEGALLY, I would defend them to the ends of the Earth. However, they did not.

As for deportation, it would be a pretty simple affair. When you find one, shoot him until he is dead because he is an invading member of a foreign country who is here to willfully violate the law and sovereignty of the United States.

@ Fox

If anyone has "useful idiots" it would be you kool-aid drinkers on the left. If the President said to you and his other followers that have such great thoughts on their own that he was going to nuke Mexico tomorrow you same sheeple would say great we need to get rid of those illegals. Please before you call someone else a name look in the mirror!

dogs80 - try again. The fair righties like you prove every day they are very sad, pitiful little people with tiny minds that can't comprehend facts - just FOX fiction! You guys are pitiful!

What are you talking about. When 9/11 happened Democrats and Republicans worked together and pretty much gave former President Bush any and everything he asked for (even though we now find out that Bush/Cheney knowingly changed the information to make it seem like Saddam was hiding the people who were the cause of 9/11 which changed to "we were there to liberate the people of Iraq").

If you want to be a hater just be a hater when you use incorrect information to make jokes that are corny you sound like (insert conservative commentators name here). If these morons can't hide their stupidity, hatred & hypocrisies with a whole news network backing them up what makes you think you can go on a message board and do the same.

Free advice it is not President Obama's fault your life is as pitiful as it seems you only notice it now because after 8 years your parents finally kicked you out of the house.

Wow, a Liberal trying to curb my right to freedom of choice. Big surprise.

It's a good thing the conservatives have Fox News backing them up. If they didn't, there would be 18 Leftist Liberal networks without anything to balance them, and give an opposing viewpoint.

But Liberals hate opposing viewpoints... they expect everyone to just jump on board the train and ride it all the way to idiocy.

Democrats love to preach about tolerance, but don't tolerate anyone with a different view from theirs! THAT is hypocrisy, you f#cktard.

When ABC and MSNBC played the Zimmerman 911 call, they doctored the audio to make him sound racist. When they showed the father of one of the Newtown kids speaking before congress, they doctored the audio to make it sound like neo-radical conservative gun nuts are interrupting him. Both of these blatant lies have been proven, yet neither ABC nor MSNBC have retracted their broadcasts or taken responsibility for their actions.

I use correct information to prove valid points. YOU use propaganda to support Liberal ideals.

Eric. You make personal statements, then use them as proof for your next statement. Did not see any proof of what you stated. Do you have credible links to any of your statements? Oh, Rush, Sean and Ted Nugent do not qualify as proof. lol

What freedom of choice was I trying to curb? I read your posts, saw where you were coming from and made an opinion. I guess I struck a nerve, well the truth hurts. And FYI I do not mind conservative media outlets or platforms I just do not believe them. Your complaining about a news source doctoring information Sherry Sherrod ring a bell or how about "you didn't build that" (which became the slogan for the Republican convention). I could go for three pages on Hannity alone. For the Newtown shooting Martin Bashir did doctor the tapes a whole 15 seconds and the producer from NBC who doctored the Zimmerman call was reprimanded. So if you want to equate lazy/sensationalism journalism (MSNBC) with outright lies (FOX) please go right ahead I will not debate that topic. But I will state this fact people who watch FOX for news are less informed than people who watch no news. Now take a deep breath and think about that. Or you can go another rant.

Keith, people who put "lol" after stuff they write are morons who laugh at their own jokes. That means you are a moron, in case you don't understand what I said. As for credible proof, both FoxNews and CNN ran the original, unedited tapes of both the 911 call and the congressional testimony. If that does not qualify as "proof" then you are simply being obstinate.

And the fact still remains...(which is the silliest handle I've read in a while)

"If you want to be a hater just be a hater when you use incorrect information to make jokes that are corny you sound like (insert conservative commentators name here). If these morons can't hide their stupidity, hatred & hypocrisies with a whole news network backing them up what makes you think you can go on a message board and do the same"

I can go on a message board and say whatever I like. I can get my news from wherever I like. You say things like "FoxNews is outright lies" and you claim that "people who watch FoxNews are less informed than people who watch no news" as a FACT. You try and call me out for claiming my opinions are facts, then you go right ahead and do the same. Then, you talk about FoxNews as "morons who can't hide their stupidity, hatred and hypocrisy" yet what you write is chock full of all three.

I have taken a deep breath, and I think I'll rant now:

Liberals just like to spend other peoples' money because it gets them votes from lazy people who like being lazy, and hate the idea that conservatives want to put people back to work.

Typical Liberal Voter: "Why vote for the guy who wants me to go back to work? Obama will just raise taxes on all the suckers who work right now, so I don't have to work. I want my rent paid free and my food paid free and my free Obamaphone! Raise taxes on the rich people! They don't deserve their money...I DO! Now I'm gonna use that taxpayer money to go buy me some lottery tickets, booze and smokes."

That is a fact the poll was conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson University. I never said you can't go on a message board and rant just be prepared to have it countered with facts, as I have just done. So the fact still remains FOX news viewers are less informed than people who watch no news, hence your outlook on life., but hey at least you get to write paragraphs on a MSNBC message board. I know you would do it on FOX message boards but FOX took it down because of all the bigoted comments that were made by guess who wait for it wait for it... REPUBLICANS. Thanks for playing but you are the weakest link goodbye.

All I see is your completely biased opinion based on your misrepresentation of the data of one poll.

You say FoxNews viewers are "less informed". I put it to you that they are just informed in a manner in which you are unaccustomed: Factually.

So many liberal, progressive media outlets make it cool to be a Democrat. Liberals will always side with the person they think is "coolest" because it makes up for the fact that they will never do anything worth a dime in their lives. They can live vicariously through the cool guy who gets to hang out with all the celebrities and say cool stuff and do cool things. Meanwhile, the cool guy is usually the least informed person in the room, having been deemed cool by some completely subjective criteria, such as athletic prowess, or good looks, or public speaking.

So with that in mind, the fact remains liberals are lemmings who will follow anyone they think is cooler than they are. Because Cool is Right, right?

The big problem with that is, the cool guy is usually not the right guy. Your guy is proving this every day he's in office.

Nice try but no one is falling for it transference as a tool for Republicans will not work anymore. You say I am misrepresenting the data because... oh yeah you don't have a reason just that the facts do not coincide with your opinion. I named the people who conducted the poll. Can you name who did the poll that says "Liberals will always side with the person they think is "coolest" because it makes up for the fact that they will never do anything worth a dime in their lives." You can't because you are uninformed just like most FOX viewers as the data states. So the fact still remains but now for an opinion:

You have an obsession with those you see as "cool" probably because you didn't have many friends growing up and probably don't have many now, but you probably see it as "those people think they are so cool whats wrong with me I want to be cool how can I be cool, oh I can't so now I hate anybody cooler than me". This is just an opinion because I do not know you but judging from your posts I would not want to know you because you sound uncool. Now run along and don't wait 10 minutes to respond hoping I won't see it.

To a Democrat, anyone who crosses the border is a potential voter, and thus entitled to protection under the "breaking the law is okay for progressives" amendment of the Constitution.

Wait, there is no such amendment?

Uh-oh.....

In the Libby PC world, they are called "Undocumented". Just like my guns will be when they ban them. Not illegal, just undocumented.

@Onermailliw

Dude that post literally had me laughing my a$$ off. Thumbs up!!!