Legislating with religion again. With atheism growing the right also needs to start pandering to them and quit doing crap like this. Target this segment once and keep religion out of your policies. People from all walks of life will gush about that.

Is this how they treat ladies in the South? I don't think so. Karl Rove has lost his touch.

Yeah, but I would be more scared to be in front of God knowing that I used His teachings to incite fear and hatred just to advance a political agenda than simply not believing in Him.

My, my. McConnell won't like be unthroned by a woman. HA!

Go Ashley!

CA - Might be true because I am guessing this is a terrifying experience. But it is indeed the fastest growing sector in religious circles, for good or for bad.

But you have to agree that without religion the world would be a more peaceful place.

CA

You've lost your edge. You just asked for proof that a belief doesn't exist. lol

CA - Well if you take out the Spanish Inquisition alone you would be saving thousands of lives. Arguing that it would be replaced with some other violence to cause the same amount of deaths would be absurd.

I believe the Roman's had human sacrifice, pre-christian yes, but still in the name of a higher power.

So that pretty much guarantees a win for Judd if she decides to run, doesn't it?

Nobody likes it when they try to use your Grandma against you...

(He's gonna get "primaried" from the right and "country fried" from the left)

"With news breaking Tuesday that long-time Fox News analyst Dick Morris has not had his contract renewed by the cable network, all eyes are turning to Morris' upcoming appearance on CNN Wednesday night."

Newsmax...

Say hello to Dick (Zelig!) Morris, LIBERAL pundit!...

McConnel, meet your replacement. You may live in the gutter, but others do not.

I believe the Roman's had human sacrifice, pre-christian yes, but still in the name of a higher power.

yeah like 400 bc. it was viewed as barbaric. People kill for land and power and other silly tangible things. Using God was/is an excuse. Jarrod Laughner was an aethist. funny he killed. Trying to believe your own BS morgs. Muslims, jews and Christians lived peacefully in the Holy land.

Caesar Augustus, the people most terrified of death are those who believe in hell.

We atheists neither believe in heaven nor in hell, so don't start talking about "our last moments." Deathbed converstions are BS. Keep your comments to yourself about what you obviously do not understand. Perpetuating ignorance is nothing to be proud of.

Thugs are loose on the streets again. Radical reactionaries are ruining the Republicans. Grow up or we'll throw the rest of you out.

Independent Voter

Yeah, there was never any fighting whatsoever over Jerusalem. What kind of BS are you trying to sell? More people have been murdered in the name of religion than any other single cause in human history.

CA - I am not pushing views, just listing facts. Do you think religion makes people peaceful? Religion makes people think they are right whether or not science proves otherwise. When you think you are right with no science or proof you are going to think everyone else is wrong. Then you get conflict. Religion creates this sort of conflict. Without it, that portion of conflict would not exist hence less violence. Just logic. Nothing more, nothing less.

Muslims, jews and Christians lived peacefully in the Holy land.

True, some people are tolerant and do not take a book as a text to live by but as a text to learn from.

What gets me about this, is how Domenico & Luke, Brown-nosers of the Ultimate Brown-Noser Chucky T, put this thread up with thier names attached. I have'nt seen either of the 3 ofem putting thier names on the Story of the Republican Lt. Gov (Neb.) & possible next Govenor, Resigning because of 1200+ phone calls from a State issued Phone to 4 different Women, none being his Wife!

Now maybe, the Carnival Barkers(formerly known as the MSM) are trying real hard to bring Karl Rove back into the National Spotlight, but as seen from the last Election, Real Americans are'nt Buying what thier selling. The same is True with Haley Barbor, now Famous for letting Convicted MURDERORS go FREE.

I have My doubts about Ashley Judd running against the Turtle, but one things for Sure, He's Running Scared about 2014!

You Betcha!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

Unfortunately, even if atheism became the new norm people will still find reasons to kill, torture, conquer, and destroy. Look at the beginning of Communism in Russia and China. Instead of a spiritual power, death and destruction was done for the State.

Actually, the ad makes me want to vote for even more!

Shaking my head............just shaking my head.

What happened to you GOP? You used to be about promoting America, now you just try to make people afraid of your competition while you try to suppress anyone who isn't part of your FAR RIGHT base.

......Shaking my head..........

Obama-following hollywood liberal. Sounds like my kind of gal!

Pot calling the kettle black Scooter Tramp? You're hear as much as anyone else, so what's your point?

This is why the GOP is failing. They think they can win elections by name-calling. Forget dealing with the issues, apparently they don't matter. Just fire up the swift boats. Bottom line is that Rove and his ilk love attacking their fellow Americans. That IS the definition of being anti-American. We are tired of it.

Caesar Augustus-

With atheism growing

"Yeah, atheists dont believe until they are on their death throes. Too funny. Its a growing movement just like the Occutards"

And then in their death bed, they're confronted with the fact that there are at least 1000 religions on the planet and have to decide which to pick because of the perils of picking the wrong one. Maybe they narrow it down to Christianity, but then are confronted with all the denominations, each of which is sure their interpretation of the Bible is the correct one because God spoke clearly to them (even though he also spoke clearly to the other denominations and told them something completely different). Ultimately, with all this confusion and nonsense, as happened with Christopher Hutchins, the answer winds being . . . NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Caesar Augustus -

Yeah, take your deathbed conversions and shove it. That's just about as idiotic as the proven-false trope people keep repeating about "no atheists in foxholes," or the "god-shaped hole in your heart." It's another smarmy little saying that the religious use to convince themselves that we don't exist.

I'm not saying that atheists have been more or less moral in the past about lots of things (but if you mention Hitler, I will verbally slap you up one side of your head and down the other). Atheists are people, too, and they come with all the foibles including ambition, lust, greed, etc. We also come with compassion, empathy, understanding, and knowledge.

I'm not into atheism because it's "hip," or because it makes me a "rebel," or because I "hate god." I'm an atheist because it's true. There's nobody looking out for us, and that means that we need to look out for each other.

Keep your comments to yourself about what you obviously do not understand. Perpetuating ignorance is nothing to be proud of.

another tolerant Religious hating lib. Yet you are convinced without proof God(s) dont exist. Ignorance indeed.

Hey Mickey since i know you're reading care to weigh on this? Im sure you'll shill for the lefty hypocrite holier than thou attitude like UnAMused

What part of the description is inaccurate? Radical Hollywood liberal---any dispute there? Lives in Tennessee but wants to carpetbag in Kentucky--seems point on.

If you put your finger in the air to test for a run----you get a response.

Like Rick,KY, I have my doubts about Ashley running. I think Mitch has more to fear from a Tea Party primary candidate--if turtle gets past that hurdle, the Dems need a more centrist candidate if they hope to win this seat. If the Tea Party candidate wins the primary, the state will go for him or her--that's how we got Rand Paul--Trey Grayson was seen as too establishment, too moderate of a Republican, so he lost big-time although he would have made a good senator. Too many people here (yes, I'm in Kentucky) don't like Ashley's politics-she might do well in Lexington and Louisville, but the rural areas and most of northern KY will go for the Republican, whoever it is. Dems need to get serious and look for someone besides Ashley to run--if you know anything about this state, you know it's a pipe dream. Allison Lundergan Grimes, the current secretary of state, might be a good choice. Daniel Mongiardo almost beat Beanball Bunning a few years back--if Dan is willing to run, he might stand a chance.

Caesar Augustus, you don't even realize it, but you've stated several things here in this one brief forum as if they were facts and common knowledge, but you couldn't be more wrong.

"Wrong", as in demonstrably incorrect. Your accounts of history sound as if it had been spoon-fed to you by Karl Rove himself.

Your claims that atheists recount on their deathbeds and embrace "god" is equally false.

Just the sheep number of people who have responded to your drivel here should tell you something... (Hint:, no it isn't that you're awesome or that most rational people agree with you).

Also, you typed:

another tolerant Religious hating lib. Yet you are convinced without proof God(s) dont exist. Ignorance indeed.

Hey Mickey since i know you're reading care to weigh on this? Im sure you'll shill for the lefty hypocrite holier than thou attitude like UnAMused

First of all, the hate is coming from YOU. You and those like you make it so easy to fire back, and then you whine that you're being hated on. Get a clue.

Second, the burden of proof is on the claimant, NOT the skeptic. The claims of gods and demons at work in our lives IS the claim that requires skeptical analysis and carries THE burden of proof.

We atheists, agnostocs and doubters do NOT have to "disprove" anything.

I agree with Bullwhip. What is all the killing in Detroit and Chicago in the name of. Humans will always find a reason to kill.

I don't think it really matters, as far right wing as Kentucky is. What I would like to see is a REAL Libertarian run for KY. One who DOESN'T want to bring the bacon home. One who realizes KY brings in far more federal $$$ than it pays out...you know, WELFARE! Get someone in there who will END ALL FARM AND OIL SUBSIDIES and let the free market work its magic. Get the f-ing hypocrites out of there and practice what you preach!

What part about what they said is incorrect? She is a bleeding heart liberal with no governing experience who doesn't even live in the state she is thinking of running in. The election is 2 years away, that is correct. And, she has not declared. However, she is serious and is exploring the possibility. This will include looking for potential donors. She is even more ill equipped than Obama was when he ran for President. At least Obama had served in elected office before - even if he mostly voted present. As a Senator she would be part of the approval process on Presidential appointments and more importantly, treaties. SHE is not someone I want having that responsibility. The only thing that will qualify her is her ultra liberal stance of virtually EVERYTHING.

Feisty Windbag 1st- shocker

*sheer number of people, not sheep.

Some typos are worse than others. LOL

Yes run ashley you and your I am sure you would love to be put through the same $HIT they put the Republicans through.

Your claims that atheists recount on their deathbeds and embrace "god" is equally false.

you're right, i was mocking the belief that atheist have it right while judeo/islamo christians have it wrong. I truly dont dismiss atheism, like i said i really dont care, playing devils advocate

Your accounts of history sound as if it had been spoon-fed to you by Karl Rove himself.

which history? you have to elaborate. Romans did human sacrafice, the exact date it ending im unsure but it was 4/5 century BC. Muslims/Jews/Christians did live peacefully in the holyland.

youre right the number of liberal sheep on a liberal sheep propaganda site is hardly hardcore proof of my 'ignorance'.

Yes Ashley, run. Help run the country into the ground like the rest of the liberal party has been doing the past 4 years. Now we got fo' mo' years! Yay! Let's finish the job!

National Debt currently at: $16.507 trillion... and rising fast! Go team!

hypocrisy That would be a great start get all those LIBERALS that want to keep giving away the farm out of there. Sure get rid of the Conservatives that want to give away the farm also. I say get rid of all the LIFERS in Washington DC. They are only in it for the MONEY. Time to send them all packing.

@ Brenda

When did she come out? Heck she just divorced Dario. Apparently he isn't the hunk all the ladies thought he was. lol

Is this Karl Rove trying to prove he is relevant after helping to lead the party along with the help of Rush to a defeat the thought could never happen? The GOP needs to stop listening to these peopel and listen to true grass roots Americans.

One last word:

Caesar Augustus- Its been shown that on your death bed your beleifs become stronger, in that if you believe in god your faith grows stronger, if you do not belief in god that also strengthens.

Glass houses.

This story right here is a classic example, along with so many of the comments, why every one of you should have gotten involved in the Popular Amendment Movement at www.faircampaignreform.us in August 2010. We could have banned these outside political (PAC's/SuperPAC's) from having ANY influence on our elections, along with corporations, unions, non-profits (including churches), etc Campaigns could only be financed by individual donations ($250 individual/$500 family in same household) and there would be no third-party advertising allowed at any time. PLUS, the campaign season would have been reduced to basically four months (candidacy filing 60 days before the NATIONAL primary date to be held just eight weeks before the General Election.)

I know what Judd is not. She is not one of those right wing crazy lunatic bitches. Now which one of those you like - take your pick - Alaska one .... Arizona one ... Minnesota one .... or the one that engages in witchcraft?

Send another "shop lifter" to DC? Ha Ha Ha! The Democrats already have too many there.

Some people have brains and good sense, and would be great doing anything. I don't know Ashley Judd personally, and I suspect none of you on this thread do either. So how on earth can you judge whether she would be good at the job?

True - some of you are professional Obama-haters and are frozen with fear of new ideas or solving problems when you can have more myopic, stubborn, close-minded, paranoid, xenophobes from the GOP instead. No amount of conversation will dent your cement-headed thought processes.

See - I just used all the name-calling techniques used by posters here who refuse to think before spewing.... Very constructive, and of course - fact-based???? NOT.

Instead of just venting angry rants a-la-Limbaugh, perhaps working the brain might serve you better. Read up on her positions regarding your state and see what she supports, what she would not, consider the alternatives, then select a candidate. Oops - that would mean rational thought, analysis and sound conclusions might be required..... and many who claim Conservative "purism" would find that mental exercise too strenuous.

Comments like those made in the article make the source really look ignorant, frightened, easily led, and only able to speak in talking points. Some education and calm might serve you better. The far right really has pushed some of you off the edge. Leading with fear is no way to run a nation. Forcing religious perspectives on others is no one's right in this country either - Our system is better than that - unless you want us to have a king and religious law like the Saudis.

Might be refreshing to have a woman elected in Kentucky. Oh - and talking about carpetbagging between Tennessee and Kentucky is like someone from Mississippi calling another from Georgia a "cracker".

oh no!........look out, it's a Peck and he's got an acorn!

Who gives a rip what these people say.........empty pitiful words from empty pitiful minds...the money is another thing........

the Supreme Court members who voted to allow all this money and all this money UNchecked into politics should be impeached and sent packing...........once again it will take liberals to clean up this mess and get the country back on the straight and narrow..back on the road to honesty and integrity...and any heads of churches who preach politics from the pulpit should result in instant revocation of their churches exempt tax status...........unlimited money used to be illegal and churches tax exempt status used to be a condition of only church business at the church...

so much corruption........and the flood gates were opened all the way by the Supreme Court...thanks to the Republican majority...thanks Scalia, really looking out for America..........do you have a swiss bank account?

How intelligent is this "conservative" point of view?

Front loading with barbs, innuendo, supposition, and slander.... not intelligent at all.

Stunningly, mind boggling, gob-smacking .... ridiculous!

Ashley Juggs is showing her age. Her mother looks younger. Even though I think she is very intelligent and a very good actress, all she is looking for is a new hobby. Hollywood is finished with her, so she chose politics. In the U.S. the best looking candidate wins. We are vain, she will win.

The first thing that this article points out is a loust job of reporting, Karl Rove is not a conservative, he is a big government, out of touch elitist who is a borderline Democrat. Why on earth would he mudsling Ashley Judd? She is what he accusses her of but so what, she is as out of touch with the people of Kentucky as he is.

I read her book "All that is Bitter and Sweet". I was very impressed. She has a masters degree in Public Administration from Harvard. Ms. Judd is an intelligent, articulate, honest woman who is also a compassionate humanitarian. OF COURSE the conservatives hate her-she is everything they are not..........

Ed, I agree with most of what you say about Rove, except the part about being close to a democrat. He's a corporatist, exactly what is wrong with the nation, to many of these guys on both sides of the isle. Teddy Roosevelt recognised the danger these guys present to a democratic government and moved to bust up their trusts. When you have banks and corporations to big to fail, then you have central planning and a de-facto socialist corporate culture in control of the government. Time to break up the to big to fail crowd.

[Keep your comments to yourself about what you obviously do not understand.]

[...you don't even realize it, but you've stated several things here in this one brief forum as if they were facts and common knowledge, but you couldn't be more wrong.]

[Yeah, take your deathbed conversions and shove it. That's just about as idiotic as the proven-false trope people keep repeating about "no atheists in foxholes," or the "god-shaped hole in your heart." It's another smarmy little saying that the religious use to convince themselves that we don't exist.]

Oh my, time for caesar to "disappear"... but don't hate on caesar, after all he's not responsible for repeating what he heard on the internets...they cant put something on the internets if it weren't true, right caesar?

Besides, if you agree with him then you'd both be wrong.

Already got his ass handed to him, and it's only 9:42 Cali time. It's gonna be a loooong day, right caesar?

Yeah, you know I'm right. Keep sticking those fingers in the fan blades junior. ;)

I still think she's a beaut ! I 'll vote for all her movies. Twice - jus cause Karl doen't like her. Dim Karl doesn't realize that he just gave her 10 percentage points.

CA,

Religion is the weaponization of faith.

Wow, I always knew Ashley Judd was beautiful and talented, but I now know she is also intelligent. Go Ashley!

WE don't need any more Ultra Libs in politics!! The liberal way is taking our Freedom of Speech away, the way we raise our children, being afraid to show our patriotism cause we can't offend anyone from another country who lives here and being allowed to display ANYTHING that has to do with God or whatever religion we have faith in cause we just can't offend ANYONE!! The country is going downhill way too fast with what we have! And it's not good to be ultra Rightwing ,either!! We need a middle of the road candidate!!! **and do we REALLY want someone from Hollyweird in any political position anyway? Look what happened with Arnold! LOL!

SteveC,

Banks are also too big to pay (more than 4 weeks profit) for the crime of money laundering for drug cartels.

This is a page right from the Obama and leftwing playbook: define and destroy the opposition early and often. How's it feel to be on the receiving end?

Any enemy of Karl Rove and Yertle the Turtle is a friend of mine. As for experience with elective office - what experience did Herman Cain, who was hugely popular with the Tea Party, have while running for POTUS? How about Dwight D Eisenhower? Or Donald Trump? Or Ronald Reagan in 1966 (Calif gov'ner)? The neocons and libertarians are always crying for "outsiders" who AREN'T career politicians or lawyers to shake up Washington. Oh, but if it's a Dem or "leftie" then it's wrong! Hypocrites.

Jeepgal,

Did you vote for Obama, his policies are to the right of Nixon-R. That's as center as you can get these days.

Jeepgal66

its sad that you really believe this, in a world of equality it means just that you can be religious if you like but you can't force others to adhere to it. Its about extending rights not preventing them.

I am often shocked at the number of laws that people that will curtail rights, as a patriotic American (and I applaud you for that) should you not be horrified at that, should you not be horrified if a couple who happen to be gay are not treated equally? Should you not be horrified if a woman is forced to under go un-necessary medical procedures becasue someone deemed it so?

Really? A conservatard somewhere said something about someone or some topic? Good thing I wasn't listening.. that stuff'll kill your brain cells like crack cocaine.

Aww, the truth, something that Liberal soicalist democrats can't stand. By the way, hows those tax increases treating all you who said obama was for the people, he is, cause the people have money that he wants. And don't worry, more taxes to come, then the obamacare, gosh,you gotta love taxes, and tyranny. Oh well I didn't vote for the King. She would fit right in with all the socialist liberal democrats in congress. Increased taxes, unconstitutional attacks on the constitution and its amendments, that god complex that he can send a drone to kill even americans, no matter where they are, if he feels they are a threat to him. Selecting his military leaders on the basis of whether or not they will kill americans if ordered to. You really picked a winner, so lets pick a representative of the people based on what she looks like. Just like the president that the socialist liberal democrat re-elected, not based on what he has done, but what he has told you he will do, so thats fitting. I just love that when he fails on issues, and he has, how all the socialist liberal democrats rally and say how proud we are of him. Anyway, he will fail more, like he has, he will lie more, like he has, and he will continue to take things from the american people like he has, and you will continue to protect him, like you already do, I didn't vote for him, so as far as I am concerned, any laws he makes, I will only follow the constitutional ones, and vote for the american public, not the obama military regime. and above all, I will fight for god and my country, as I have, you socialist liberal democrats, are on your own.

Morgs, the only way you can say the things you say about religion causing wars is by jumping on that particular bandwagon without doing any research.

Leaving Islam out of this next statement because Islam does mandate the beheadings and killing of non-muslims. (It is the only religion that does this bye the way.) Most religions are based in peace. They are spiritual walks of life centered in self improvement and helping others. Religion and spirituality and spiritual beliefs are different things though. When I hear you speak, you seem to lump all things spiritual together as religion. That is a mistake and you would do well to learn the difference. Religion is basically a capitalistic spirituality. It is not actually spiritual because it is a system where if you follow certain rules, you get some kind of payment. Religion is not truth, but God is. Following God is not religion. Trusting God is not religion.

When violence has happened in the name of Christianity it has ALWAYS been that certain men led others to do things that the Bible clearly speaks against. In the crusades, certain men, led astray by the temptations of power and wealth began sacking and capturing cities in the middle east for themselves. They would rule over those cities and become rich. They abandoned the teachings of the Bible in lust and greed. It wasn't religion that caused the violence that you attempt to cite, it was people not following God. Not listening to the good, just and true teachings handed down to us from heaven. Things like "Love your neighbor as yourself." Basically it was people acting on thier base and carnal natures. Men who dont follow any religion, men who spurn God, yet claim to be men of God, or are identified by others as people associated somehow with some church. To what extent these men are or were actually associated seems to vary instance to instance. Back in those days, almost everyone was associated or would today be considered associated because the church ran through all facets of society and government.

Bottom line: It is the non-believers who have caused all of the violence you speak of. When men and women act on their base and carnal natures and ignore God and his ways, bad things happen and are done.

another tolerant Religious hating lib. Yet you are convinced without proof God(s) dont exist. Ignorance indeed

Caesar, the burden of proof lies of the ones that make the claim. Atheists don't need to prove anything.

Caesar Agustus,

I have been an atheist my whole life, and most of my family are atheists. Many have died and not one fell to their knees at the end to beg forgiveness to your imaginary friend. I have faced death a number of times and never had the slightest thought of praying to your imaginary friend. Only weak minded people need the cruch that is religion. I do not fear death, or the eternal nothingness that comes with it because the conservatives have turned this once beatiful planet into a toxic waste dump, frac'ed our water, genetically modified our food, propagandized our history and destroyed all cultural diversity in their mad rush to Walmart the world. Returning to star dust from whence I came is my only hope of escape from this hell they have created on earth, why would I desire to beg their god for forgiveness as I neared death only to be forced to spend eternity with the same Christian Conservatives despised while living? I have been fighting the evil that is the conservative movement for nearly 30 years now, the nothingness that is death will be a very peaceful, welcome change.

Already got his ass handed to him, and it's only 9:42 Cali time. It's gonna be a loooong day, right caesar?

Yep serveral people told me to shut up and that now equates to getting my has handed..im glad in a round about way (although you are a coward) took up my challenge and came to my becking call. Unfortunately like the limp wrist you are, just couldnt weigh in on the issue, directly. You do support the 'tolerant liberal left. Say it, I Mickey Ny am a hypocrite Communist. Now back to overseeing this fictitious project around the 'lack of common sense' Phd's you school all day...

BTW Micks when you come to my backyard for Burning Man let me know. If your going to chicken out, please own it yourself and dont blame the fact that im a 'pussy gun owner'. I wont bring guns Mickey ;)

Touche' sport

Only weak minded people need the cruch that is religion.

This is exactly why i think you atheists are joke. Like that douche Mickey you believe youre right only through your fvcked circular logic.

Hey I riled up all the High and Mighty knowit all atheists LOL...and yet you cant find your ass with your own hands and map.

Keep Fearing my 'imaginary' Friend LMFAO @ YOU

ibsleepy,

I see what sleep depravation has wraught on your psyche, take an ambien, or see a doctor.

Mike,

Again "Religion is the weaponization of faith"

People of faith have been convinced to commit unspeakable acts in the name of religion. It has always been a tool for control, and it makes it easy to dehumanize those of other religions.

McConnell must feel really threatened to have to try to character assassinate people before they even announce their candidacy.

"Her own grandmother says she's a Hollywood liberal," an announcer says. "Isn't that exactly what we need? Ashley Judd, an Obama-following, radical, Hollywood liberal, who's right at home here in Tennessee. I mean, Kentucky."

What a tickle.

We all want Mitch McConnell put out of office, but come on Ashley, you do actually have to live in a State to represent it, even in Washington.

I seriously doubt she's gonna do this. I don't think she can even qualify to put herself on the ballot in Kentucky just because she was born there, but doesn't actually live there.

I'd love to see Ashley run here in California (she does live here) and run one of those Orange County Republicans out of office, rather than for her to spin her wheels in Kentucky.

Caesar Augustus-

Not sure how that was an argument against Atheist. More a collection of disjointed statements.

You failed to address the challenge to your claims that Atheists suddenly become religious at the time of their impending deaths, which is an erroneous statement not supported by current research.

Calling Ashley a radical ?? Who is the more radical than McConnell one of the most radical in congress. Being so radical helped the democrats win an sure bet election for the repulican Party and blew it for being radical. Even the republicans know they have the most "Stupid Party" and are trying to educate the party as not to be so radical and stupid as they are now.

Isn't she one of BJ Clinton's playthings from yesteryear?

I like Ashley Judd as an actress, but we sure do NOT need another liberal in politics! This country is too morally bankrupt already. :(

deprogrammer

Lolz....Great comment.......You are right....Why would anybody want to spend an eternity with all the people I despised in life........

Caesar Augustus-

I always find your comments so ridiculous ......First.....JC wasn't a republican he was a socialist not a capitalist......So whatever nonsense you are feeding yourself....read your bible again. Second and despite your name.....The Romans were real good at staying out of religions...Hence the large empire (like the Mongols). They put down revolts harshly, like the Jews, but that is how the vast majority of Caesars viewed religious persecution with disdain. I know you always seem to have a hard time with the written facts. Reread your bible JC was all about helping the less fortunate..........Remember "it is easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get to heaven" Don't think you can be much clearer than that. Me I just believe he was a great philosopher...the greatest in fact......I agree with star dust and that we are the current effect of a mathematical equation started billions and billions of years ago.....

"Karl Rove's American Crossroads posted a video taking aim at at Judd, who some Democrats have pointed to as a potential Senate candidate against Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY)."

Karl Rove!

He's just what Republicans need to remind everybody what dirty politics looks like.

At this point Republicans fully realize they're not going to get the vote, so they'd better get the man who best knows how cheat.

Krestov,

You failed to address the challenge to your claims that Atheists suddenly become religious at the time of their impending deaths, which is an erroneous statement not supported by current research.

Really? There's actually been research done on Atheists on their deathbed? LOL!

I love getting my morals and opinions from a book written in the Bronze Age. -Not.

I'm fine with the concept of particles and energy and not much else. There is too much in the universe (or multiverse, if that is what's out there) to wonder about instead of dropping acid.

Science, unlike religion is self correcting. If mankind was wiped out and another species took our place, they'd recreate our science books, but their religions (if they fall into that trap) will look nothing like what is currently being passed around.

You failed to address the challenge to your claims that Atheists suddenly become religious at the time of their impending deaths, which is an erroneous statement not supported by current research.

i did address it several posts up.. I said i was mocking it. I have no problem with atheists krevstov. I think its equally wrong to say that god doesnt exist. Tell you what. I dont know, someone is right and someone is wrong and in the end will it really make a difference?

I have problems with Deprogammer and Morgs who blame Republicans and Christians for the worlds problems. Interesting that the Dem non believers have dont nothing to stem the tide either. But I'll let the far left continue to blame the republicans.

I do miss Spanky and Mixed Bag. they had a tendancy to put my little Mickey Troll in his place.

JC wasn't a republican he was a socialist not a capitalist

JC had no political affiliation. He helped the poor, he didnt provide for them. So that blows your douche theory out of the water. So while you find my posts rediculous, I find your RECOCKULOUS

Pretty early to start throwing stones isn't it?

Caesar Augustus-

All of his policies and teachings are socialist......and Your bible was rewritten by a gay man....King James (look it up)....LOLZ.....People like you are always so head in the sandish.....It could be historical fact and you will still deny it....I know, JC would act just like you do on these blogs......You are the picture perfect example of why I don't like religion.

@Morgs74

CA - Well if you take out the Spanish Inquisition alone you would be saving thousands of lives. Arguing that it would be replaced with some other violence to cause the same amount of deaths would be absurd.

No religion advocates the kind of slaughter that has been done in their name. The only thing that is absurd is your contention that human beings wouldn't find some other excuses to kill each other in the absence of religion. Religion is little more than a convenient excuse to do all sorts of things that we'd be better off not doing.

Well, so far the insults, name calling, and intolerance is running about 80% "dem, lib, atheist, pro-Ashley", 20% "GOP, Theist, cons, anti-Ashley"...

Thankfully, there are still a handful willing to actually discuss, not just bicker like spoiled teenagers...

If Ms. Judd wishes to run for office, as long as she meets the requirements, good for her. Let her debate the issues with her opponent, and let the people decide who has the best plan. Unfortunately, her Hollywood comrades will just spend millions bashing any GOP candidate she runs against.

Tim wrote:

Dems need to get serious and look for someone besides Ashley to run--if you know anything about this state, you know it's a pipe dream. Allison Lundergan Grimes, the current secretary of state, might be a good choice. Daniel Mongiardo almost beat Beanball Bunning a few years back--if Dan is willing to run, he might stand a chance.

I don't know if Ashley could win or not. True, Kentucky is pretty conservative outside Lexington and Louisville, and she has been a vocal opponent of mountain-top removal coal mining, which will not endear her to the south east counties, but the fact that Karl Rove feels it necessary to spend money denigrating her (rather than Grimes or Mongiardo) when she has not yet decided to run tells me who Mitch is afraid of (I do not believe Rove is operating independently of Mitch). Regarding her not being a Kentucky resident, I do not see this as a problem. She could easily establish legal residency in time to run. Her family has historical roots in Kentucky and she is a University of Kentucky graduate. She is a frequent and highly visible attendee at University of Kentucky basketball games, which essentially everyone in the state watches. She is probably regarded by most Kentucky voters as being more of a Kentuckian than Mitch. I can not recall the last time I saw him attend a public event in Kentucky. The fact that she is considering a run against Mitch rather than in Tennessee tells you where her heart is. I suspect many Kentucky voters pull the lever for Mitch simply out of name recognition rather than out of agreement with his political philosophy or recent political activity. The business about his top priority being to ensure Obama being a one-term President, rather than fixing the economy, creating jobs, promoting global peace and security, etc did not win him much love at home either. The fact is that Congress in general is held in very low regard by the public, who want action to solve the nation's problems rather than partisan obstructionism, Mitch's specialty. There is recent talk in Kentucky of a primary challange from the Tea Party, which is likely to push him farther to the right. There may well be an opportunity for a well known personality such as Ashley to seriously challenge him from the left. He is part of the political establishment, proponent of a losing strategy, vulnerable, and running scared, as evidenced by his recent bragging about the size of his war chest, an obvious ploy to discourage challengers. We will know just how worried he is when we start seeing his mug on TV coutside at UK basketball games.

@jeepgal

and do we REALLY want someone from Hollyweird in any political position anyway? Look what happened with Arnold!

And don't forget the Right's idol Ronald Reagan!

FEISTY RED HEAD

is a PLANT

she works for MSNBC

that is why she is first on these boards everyday

NEED A NEW MONIKER

In Other news........GOP study claims Mother Theresa was a Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Nazi, radical, terrorist, Muslam, anti gun lobbyist, unpatriotic, nosepicker, outer space alien, non believer of Bigfootstories and a lousy cook. When GOP was asked why they released this statement, they replied, "Just being proactive, in case she rises from the dead."

Meanwhile the media says thankyou to GOP for the quote and for spending your money on the political advertisments stating their delusionary ideas. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

All of his policies and teachings are socialist......and Your bible was rewritten by a gay man....King James (look it up)....LOLZ.....People like you are always so head in the sandish.....It could be historical fact and you will still deny it....I know, JC would act just like you do on these blogs......You are the picture perfect example of why I don't like religion.

I have no religion..Remember Render Unto Caesar Petr. I dont understand why Liberals fear Christians so much. I have never been forced to join a religion, if they come to my door and i say im not interested they move on. NonHeaven forbid that people look at their religion as a moral compass. Sure some dont follow it and yet preach but hardly is an accurate representation of most religious people. In liberal land the 10% of bad apples apparently represent the majority. Explains why liberals are retarded when it comes to math.

So tell me non believers what is so Scary about God.

Caesar,

Mathew 19:21 Jesus told him, "If you want to be
perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and
you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

This shows Jesus wanted people to provide for the poor.

Blows your retort out of the water.

Caesar, I do not fear your imaginary friend, fearing something that only exists in the minds of my enemies would be pointless, and if I would be simply minded enough to believe in this man-made deity that you "worship" then I surely would not fear him, if I did then I would not worhsip him, and if I worshiped him I would not fear him, for something that forces me to fear it deserves not my worship but rather my disdain.

I have found that most of your comments make little, if any, sense, you simply ramble on to hear yourself talk. You seem to be the stereotypical personification of a troll, you delight in stirring @!$%#. The thought that you may have "riled the high and mighty, know it all atheists" seems to please you to the point that your panties moistened, which I find extremely childish. We are on here to debate the issues that we find ourselves faced with not to "rile" or anger each other.

That's right Karly boy.... be afraid... very afraid.

The woman has not even said she is running and he is already wasting money campaigning against her. Must be a new strategy, start before they even decide... Since he FAILED to get candidates re-elected during the last election, he figures he'd start early, very early.

Karl Rove: English for 'Moron'

PeterDean

always find your comments so ridiculous ......First.....JC wasn't a republican he was a socialist not a capitalist.....

So a guy who died over 2,000 years ago subscribed to a philosophy of government that wouldn't come around for over a millennium and a half?

C'mon man. Please quit trying to play the "Jesus was a (insert party affiliation/government style affiliation) here. Caesar and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but in this case, even I could tell what he was suggesting was some very bad tongue in cheek humor with the same comments you hear repeated over and over.

I'm also not going to be someone on the side of "man, religion has only done good things" or "religion has only done bad things". What a myopic world view that some present. I think we should be prepared to admit there is some good and some bad to everything. I won't fault Caesar for a little bit of trolling with his statement, but I can fault people for wanting to play debate rules with an obvious trolling statement.

Backcountry164

No religion advocates the kind of slaughter that has been done in their name. The only thing that is absurd is your contention that human beings wouldn't find some other excuses to kill each other in the absence of religion. Religion is little more than a convenient excuse to do all sorts of things that we'd be better off not doing.

It's amazing that you have to say it. It's even more amazing that I'm sure someone is going to read your statement and go "Jeez, this guy is an idiot. Of course religion is the source of the world's problems."

Nice Democrats - they never talk badly about their opponents - (see evidence here) - hypocrisy rules

President Obama failed to deliver his budget on Monday as required by law

Consistency in his ultra incompetence - is truly evident

Well if Karl Rove says she's bad we know she would actually be a very good representative!

Jeepgal- stick to the sticks where you belong. No one is taking away your right to free speech or the way you raise your children or show your patriotish. No one has anyproblem with your faith - many of us are Christians - we just actually believe in treating people well - unlike the far right who believe it's okay to treat people who are not just like you - like dirt.

And, I'll match liberals' Patriotism against the far right's any day and liberals will usually win.

Go back to hating everybody - it's all you're comfortable with. And, YOU would never support a middle of the road candidate - not wacked out enough for you!

Zathrose - as usual - you just post your stupidity and nonsense!

DickCranium

Yes they have:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22700240

Caesar, nothing is "scary" about this fictional deity you call God, what is scary is those who are insane enough to believe in "it" are willing to exterminate those of use who are sane enough not to believe in "it". You and your ilk have used your imaginary friend as justification for you evil deeds since religion was first invented (when the first con man met the first sucker). Daily "men" like Bryan Fischer and other evangelical loud mouths call for the extermination of all who choose to believe otherwise and history proves that religious fantics are more then eager to do just that.

Nah, Ashleys just pi$$ed because her basketball team sucks this year.

Go Green! Sparty on!

and if I would be simply minded enough to believe in this man-made deity that you "worship" then I surely would not fear him, if I did then I would not worhsip him, and if I worshiped him I would not fear him, for something that forces me to fear it deserves not my worship but rather my disdain.

i bet you sniff your own farts...be off with you, you arrogant POS...you come here to debate my azz, you come to be condescending.

"If you want to be
perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and
you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

LOL..yeah i dont see where it says People need to provide for poor. I think you missed that entire message..typical amoral Lib.

Jesus had no time for the worldly affairs or possessions. Who helped lame walk and blind men see.

Liberals are under the thought process of give men fish for life why work for it.

i can careless if one believes in god or gods or what have you.

So you DO care then. I think what you meant is "I couldn't care less.."

By the way, the Romans continued to invade and kill people after becoming Christians. Also, if you don't believe anybody has ever killed in the name of Christianity (or any other religion, for that matter), please tell me what the Crusades were all about and why was it the Pope who called people to arms?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

ASHLEY JUDD?!?!?!?!?!?

Of course the limp-wristed Libbies will parade some know nothing Hollywood miscreant. I'm sure she has all kinds of experience to be a public servant. This is typical for the Liberal/Progressive cabal as they deal with issues emotionally rather than with policy.

She pretends for a living and now the unwashed masses want her to pretend to be a Senator. We all know the Hollywood useful idiots only get involved when they realize how much they have taken from the people for watching their make-believe movies or listen to their dysfunctional songs.

Of course she will claim to feel everyone’s pain as she jet-sets around with the Hollywood elitists, and the Liberal lemmings will just goose-step in order as they have no self confidence to disagree. we already have one buffoon like that, Al "I'm Al Franken" Franken that stole an election to spew his social and economic justice nonsense around.

Why is it that Liberals/Progressives are OK to be talked down to by our alleged president, telling them the best they can achieve is to be middle class? Why do Liberals accept mediocrity instead of exceptionalism? Barrack Hussein loves manipulating so many of the illiterate masses to think he really cares, as long as they don't achieve any success or wealth.

Barrack Hussein is a thoroughgoing statist. He believes the masses should simply be middle-class or lower and he, and his elitist comrades, can only be the achievers and wealthy. The Bourgeoisie are Barrack Husseins mob and the rest are the Proletariat.

The Hollywood moguls of course fit the elitist description but the rest of the Liberals are simply here to buy their overpriced movie tickets to watch fairy-tales on the big-screen. And from there they are entitled to become a Liberal politician. Once they have the bobble heads indoctrinated the dominance begins.

Keeping the masses in poverty, squalor and illiterate is the easiest way the Liberals/Progressives control the unaware masses that are told to simply vote for more "stuff".

Conservatives and real Americans work for a living, Liberals/Progressives vote for a living. It's sad to see so many Americans needing to pretend to be significant.

I guess Ashley Judd will fit into the Liberal/Progressive delusion well.

@Marcus

Everyone talks about everyone. I don't think that was even a topic for discussion.

Personally, it is more about the fear that runs through Rove's veins. To campaign way way way before the person even decides if she is going to run....??? Really??!?!

He WASTED billions of dollars in the past election, and here he is still... wasting money.. again.

How could anyone take this media hound serious. I agree, she's not even from Kentucky. This will be a litmus test for women voters. Lets see if there are enough weak minded women out there that live their lives though the TV and cant separate life from fiction.

@JimSpence

Now, do this... Replace the name Ashley Judd with Ronald Reagan from your diatribe.

Does a lot of the crap you wrote apply to him too??!?!

Thought so.

Here's a point to ponder... sorry for not being about the article, but there are so many pro athiest and pro christian comments I just have one thing to say. I am a christian. At the end of my life my soul will go to God, that is MY belief, so IF it turns out I am wrong, no harm no foul, but if the atheist is wrong, uh oh.

Caesar Augustus-

With atheism growing

Yeah, atheists dont believe until they are on their death throes. Too funny. Its a growing movement just like the Occutards

Really Caesar? Do you personally know any atheists who suddenly found Jesus...or Buddha...or Vishnu....or Allah...or Yahweh...or some other mythical deity on their death bed? By the way, speaking of Occutards, your Namesake was a Pagan. His patron god was Apollo. Have a fine Pagan Day!

oliverb - and don't forget his frantic running in circles the night of the election when Ohio was called. What great comic relief.

JimSpence - as usual, nothing you post is true or worthwhile. I'm sure you need to post lies to make your little life bearable. As we all know, most liberals work - the same as most Republicans - we just work at jobs that require intelligence, unlike whatever you do.

By the way, the Romans continued to invade and kill people after becoming Christians.

sigh...yes i love you history scholars. By the time of Constantine (he made Christianity the State Religion), there wasnt much in the way of invading new lands and conquest. It was maintaining borders and hardly in the name of God. You libs believe the whole of Christianity began only in the dark ages.

please tell me what the Crusades were all about and why was it the Pope who called people to arms?

The Byzantine Emperor Alexios I wanted to reclaim lands in the East that were lost to Islamic conquest, he appealed to the Pope (the Byzantines did not recognized the authority of the pope mind you). The Byzantines did not have the strenght to reconquer what was lost. The pope used this as a religious plight to gain the holy land for the 'west' and the church. In the end it was powerful corrupted people killing for realestate under the guise of God. However it was the Muslims spreading the word of Allah by the sword.

In the end it was only for land and pride

How bout you pick up a history book and look for yourself.

So Rob do you have a point? Maybe you can tell me why Troy was Sacked or why Xerxes invaded Greece or why Napolean attempted to invade Russia. So for every war in the name of God I can find equally the same in the name of Power

By the way, speaking of Occutards, your Namesake was a Pagan. His patron god was Apollo. Have a fine Pagan Day!

My name sake found his way into the Pantheon how bout you? But Doc you dont comprehend real well do you...read through all my posts instead of cherry picky dumAZZ

Republicans just trying to be proactive on their pledges to vote against anyone any bill or program that would be good for America...

Just like the announcement today about the Post Office. Republicans slip in a bill years back making the Post Office fund retirement out 80 years. Why? Just to defund the Post office to privatize the business, giving more money to their campaign supporters...making the rich richer and the middle class poorer. No business has to fund 80 years out for retirement and pensions...but this plan causes the Post Office to sock away money that could be used to run the Post Office.

Congrats to republicons for accomplishing one of their goals, killing off Post office and taking the money and jobs away from union American workers.

WHAT!!!!! You liberals are supporting one of the 1%'ers...my god what have we come too....I'm totally flabbergasted......

Oh well, I did have one more thing to say! I don't walk around telling people or posting in every single comment that I am a christian. I have noticed that an athiest will make it known what they are in the first two sentences no matter what the subject is about. If the entire article consisted of one word, for example:

"Snowflake"

Here is an athiest commenting: I'm an athiest, but those snowflakes are white.

Yeap... and after she takes McConnell's Senate seat they'll have to start calling her "Senator Ashley Judd... Obama-following, radical, Hollywood liberal".

Let's hear it for all the "Obama-following, radical, Hollywood liberals" !!!

Wish I lived in Kentucky, I'd vote for Ashley Judd in a New York minute over old Touche Turtle.

Well, no, I wouldn't live in Kentucky- too many inbreds.

For those whining about Ms Judd's current state of residence ask where did Rand Paul live before running for office in Kentucky.

As for one's religious beliefs, they are personal and none of anyone else's business. We have freedom of religion for one to believe or not as they see fit. I have never once voted for a Pope or any leader that is required to have a political affiliation. In fact it is Unconstitutional to insist on one religon or another or any at all to run for office in the US.

If "turtle" is afraid of the "Hollywood Liberal" than put a "T-party" uberconservative against her and see who wins. The ultimate decision will be made by the good citizens of Kentucky.

Hollywood produced Clint (empty chair) Eastwood and Ronald Reagan, hardly bastions of liberal politics so to use the term Hollywood Liberals is kind of silly.

I see mention of Hollywood Moguls but how different are they than the Moguls of GE or RCA or Tyco or any other company? They are in business to make money. They do it through providing entertainment (just like Fox) where others produce products and services that may not include entertainment.

Jeepgal66...do we really want anyone from hollyweird in political office? lol, guess you didn't know ronald reagan was a film actor in hollyweird long before he became president...too fricken funny

Caesar,

Troll through and through.

"sniff your own farts"? what are you 12, maybe 13 years old? "debating" you is like arguing with a spoiled child, you know absolutely nothing about the issues so you resort to class clown and play ground bully tactics. I am done here, I will leave you to play with yourself, which is what you are best suited for.

Ashley Judd is exactly what we need in politics, someone who has spent their career working in the land of make believe. Maybe Judd has played a senator or the wife of one in a movie, so infinitely qualified to say the least. One thing for sure, Judd should be able to look into a camera and lie through her teeth, now that is some training that can come in handy. Of course making millions for just a few months worth of work will be a change. But the work load in the senate is probably not as demanding as a movie shoot, and there are millions to be had if you keep your pockets open, and some pretty lavish perks and benefits. All in all a great fit for a senator, after all most politicians are actors, as they have to be able to pretend to be working for us everyday.

Caesar Augustus-

ROTFLMAO!!!!

I see you’re valiantly debating the atheists, agnostics and various other pagans.

You’re wasting your time. Most of them live in fear of everything, that’s why they refuse to accept a

Supreme Beings existence.

Most Liberals/Progressives are constantly hounded by different bogeymen. The biggest one is the Faith believing real Americans. I guarantee you all of the teachers and students at Sandy Hook were gathered in groups, as an insane Adam Lanza was murdering people, were praying. And they weren’t praying to Barrack Hussein, Joe Biden or Hairy Reed.

They are just bitter against God because he is so much more significant than they are and no one has ever seen him. Our Constitution is based on the Bible and the Liberals can’t accept that. They would prefer it was based on Marx, Lenin, Mao or some other real mass murderer that promises them everything they want without working for it.

Neither theists, nor atheists can offer proof positive there either is or is not a God, or any God. That’s the real bottom line.

• The difference however is that theists point out that lack of such definitive proof of the existence of a God requires one to then put faith into an improbable construct.

Conversely atheists simply say without positive evidence of the existence of a God, we choose not to believe, which requires no faith to do so.

Their weakness is, they will not have any Faith and will go through life that way.

Remember the Atheist Creed: “There is no God, and I hate him”.

BTW, the alleged atheists, agnostics and pagans never seem to attack Islam do they? The most violent and destructive religion in our time. Their cowardice proves how insignificant their argument really is.

agnostics and various other pagans.

Well Jim I fall into that category myself. Personally i have no problems with atheists..its the 'debaters' like Reprogrammed lap dog that thinks his opinion is the only opinion. Im a spoiled child LOL....I stick up for the christians as well though just because i dont understand why these so called tolerant assfvcks think its ok to still feed christians to lions. No matter how many christians were fed, they ended up triumphing LOL...

Remember the Atheist Creed: “There is no God, and I hate him”.

Im ok with that, and im also ok with IN GOD WE TRUST. Liberal lefty hypocrites, not so much.

BTW, the alleged atheists, agnostics and pagans never seem to attack Islam do they

well the 'christian Dems and atheists and agnos' dont seem to no.

They would prefer it was based on Marx, Lenin, Mao or some other real mass murderer that promises them everything they want without working for it.

and one of the base principals of those elite figures was their strong belief that Religion needs to be removed, exactly why they find their champions in Communism

Krestov,

Yes they have:

No they haven't. "Death Reminders" are not the same thing as dying, on your deathbed, knowing you only have moments to live. Pretty hard to simulate that.

@JimSpence

Off the ledge now... it is not worth it.

Typical religious crazy person... not much substance. It is all about who screams the loudest.

Would love to pick apart your own beliefs and line them up with your political views... Like a lot of republicans, you will fall short from the standards you so, oh so, vehemently profess to have.

But.... I do not have the time, nor the inclination to argue with a crazy person. The thing is, much like idiots, your stupidity will lower me to a standard that I am not used to. And, since you live there, I would be sucked into it and become dumber, stupider... FAUX News Republican, if you will...

Chill... Take your happy pills and go back to your TV. It misses you.

starsailing

Republicans slip in a bill years back making the Post Office fund retirement out 80 years

You mean that bi-partisan bill that was co-sponsored by two dems, passed the Senate with a voice only vote and only got 20 no votes in the house?? Was that the bill republicans "slipped" in?? LOL! I'm not sure whether to laugh at your blind partisan ignorance or just feel sorry for you.

oliverb

Now, do this... Replace the name Ashley Judd with Ronald Reagan from your diatribe.

Does a lot of the crap you wrote apply to him too??!?!

No it doesn’t. ‘

Ronald Reagan believed in our great Republic. He believed in American exceptionalism and that the world looks up to us. As it should.

Your boy toy Barrack Hussein is a statist who hates America. His wife Moochelle even admitted it when she said, “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country”. We all know Barrack Hussein is an anti-colonialist with deeply indoctrinated hate for our nation because of his Marxist father, Socialist mother and his primary mentor Communist Frank Marshall Davis.

Ronald Reagan is the greatest president of the 20^th century and one of the greatest of all time because he united a nation on the verge of a much bigger collapse than what Barrack Hussein has unsuccessfully tried to do.

Liberals/Progressives don’t care about our Republic. They only care about getting everything given to them regardless of whether they deserve it or not.

Two of the greatest presidents in the past 200 years are Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln.

Try to keep up Spanky.

TO: MarkusBWolf who wrote:

"... her Hollywood comrades will just spend millions bashing any GOP candidate she runs against."

Well, the GOP has made more than their fair share of mistakes and they don't show any sign of improvement. Putting that much talked about "lipstick on a pig" is NOT "improvement" it's the same as lying because the GOP is planning to say one thing to get votes with no intention of keeping the promises they make.

Pointing out areas where the the GOP is just plain wrong is a whole lot different that Republicans who stand up and recite outright lies, hate speech, and talking points.

Caesar Augustus-

My name sake found his way into the Pantheon how bout you? But Doc you dont comprehend real well do you...read through all my posts instead of cherry picky dumAZZ

Know much about European Paganism Caesar? Much of it was based on Ancestor worship somewhat similar to Shinto (actually closer to emulation than worship). He might have made the cut on his own as a significant ancestral figure, but of course the Caesar's declaring themselves gods didn't hurt...

As to researching your previous posts, I doubt your historic pronouncements would rival your namesakes.

wasnt much in the way of invading new lands and conquest. It was maintaining borders and hardly in the name of God.

Constantine fought to 'take back' Rome (in a civil war) DIRECTLY under a symbol of god. He claimed he had seen a sign from god and that he would win if he fought under it, so he had his army paint that sign on their shields. I'd say that counts as "in the name of God" wouldn't you? Did you forget about this fact?

Why was Troy sacked? I don't know, but the people that did it were religious. Pagans, but that's still being religious. Xerxes? Ditto. Napolean? Born a Catholic, but did not like organized religion. Nevertheless, he emancipated Jews, Protestants AND Catholics.

P.S. I'm well aware that people will kill without religion being involved. I just find the idea that people have never killed because of it to be totally, factually, wrong. That was my only point. Tying people together by religion can (I said can, not always, and it's not the only way) be a good way to get them to hate other people who are 'different'.

JimSpence

You’re wasting your time. Most of them live in fear of everything, that’s why they refuse to accept a Supreme Beings existence.

What a strange interpretation of a skewed observation. Atheists and Agnostics live in fear because we don't cower before a mythical deity begging him/her/it for mercy.

Most Liberals/Progressives are constantly hounded by different bogeymen. The biggest one is the Faith believing real Americans.

If you believe Liberals/Progressives hold fanatical Christians in fear...good luck with that one.

I guarantee you all of the teachers and students at Sandy Hook were gathered in groups, as an insane Adam Lanza was murdering people, were praying. And they weren’t praying to Barrack Hussein, Joe Biden or Hairy Reed.

They might has well have...whoever they prayed to didn't do 20 some of them much good, although I truly hope it gave them some comfort before they died.

They are just bitter against God because he is so much more significant than they are and no one has ever seen him.

What a strange comment. We're bitter because your mythical deity is more significant than human lives. And you wonder why we consider you fanatical? And I'm bitter because I don't see him? I'd commit myself if I did...

Our Constitution is based on the Bible and the Liberals can’t accept that. They would prefer it was based on Marx, Lenin, Mao or some other real mass murderer that promises them everything they want without working for it.

Perhaps you should learn something about the founders instead simply listening to propaganda. Google "Treaty of Tripoli".

I see you have a bright future as either a commentator for FOX News or perhaps a professional antipsychotic medication test subject.

Ol_Doc you are completely lost....Like i said you dont comprehend to well.

Rob80 I never said people didnt kill in the name of God but to say there would be less violence and war if there was no religion is absurd. Constatine didnt fight to take back Rome, he fought to take it illegally. He had no right through the Tetraarchy set up by Diocletian. he didnt do it in the name of God. He had a vision of the Chi and Rho and felt it was a sign from God and figured it would be favorable to paint it on the shieldsl I dont think the army under Constatine was very open to that idea. Christianity was there to stay and Constantine knew it.

so again do you have a point?

Caesar Augustus-

Since by your own post I don't seem to be the only one with a comprehension problem...perhaps it's not my comprehension so much as your inability to express yourself in a straightforward manner.

[...perhaps it's not my comprehension so much as your inability to express yourself in a straightforward manner.]

Ahhh yes, but ask him to recite what happened during the 1st. century B.C., and he's all over it. That's where he got his "infrastructure" expertise...sewer systems and aqueducts and all.

BTW caesar, I sent you a friend request, and you haven't accepted...what gives? C'mon dude...it'll be fun. I'll pretend to be your "friend", and you can tell everybody you finally have one. You must be hard up, you're spending all day (and your employer's time) with the "eeeeevil libruls".

;)

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE, IGNORE CEASAR AUGUSTUS...

And, as for the rest of you, if the first sentence is calling people names, even if we are on the same side, I skip you. Thank you for saving me time.

Ashley Judd would not be the first to ever run for office in a state she hadn't lived in for awhile. I live in North Carolina. The same party that is running this add wasted no time in bringing Elizabeth Dole back to NC to slid into good ole Jessie Helms seat. She was born in NC, but hadn't lived here in years.

I personally hope she has ole Mitch worried. If we want this country to change, people like him should worry. He has sat in his comfy chair in DC and spent money for years before Obama came on the scene, along with many more just like him. The haters can pretend that the world only began in 2009, but folks that live in reality know better.

She ought to run as a Republican in the primary, that'd scare the heck out of the GOP.

JimSpence

oliverb

Now, do this... Replace the name Ashley Judd with Ronald Reagan from your diatribe.

Does a lot of the crap you wrote apply to him too??!?!

No it doesn’t. ‘

Ronald Reagan believed in our great Republic. He believed in American exceptionalism and that the world looks up to us. As it should.

Please define American Exceptionalism for me. The right-wing keeps throwing it out but never explains what they mean by the term. Actually I believe most of the world still looks up to us...now. Six years ago I believe most of the world distrusted and feared us. By the way, if Ronald Reagan was alive today he could only run as a Democrat. He would never be nominated by the Republican Party now.

Your boy toy Barrack Hussein is a statist who hates America. His wife Moochelle even admitted it when she said, “for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country”. We all know Barrack Hussein is an anti-colonialist with deeply indoctrinated hate for our nation because of his Marxist father, Socialist mother and his primary mentor Communist Frank Marshall Davis.

Funny, a paragraph ago you heaped praise on Ronald Reagan, yet accuse the current President of being a statist. Wasn't one of Ronald Reagan's first acts to break the Air Traffic Controller's union? Seems to me a statist want's to control the economy. Isn't the government taking an active roll in suppressing organized labor an attempt to control the economy? You speak of anti-colonialism as though it is a bad thing. Are you pro-colonial? Do you believe we should control other countries, exploit their people for the benefit of our industrialists? You were born about 100 years too late. You'd have loved the "Banana Republics" we established then.

Ronald Reagan is the greatest president of the 20^th century and one of the greatest of all time because he united a nation on the verge of a much bigger collapse than what Barrack Hussein has unsuccessfully tried to do.

No, Ronald Reagan was an effective communicator and a class B movie actor (the chimp was better). During his second term he was struck by Alzheimer's disease. Did anyone even notice?

Liberals/Progressives don’t care about our Republic. They only care about getting everything given to them regardless of whether they deserve it or not.

Did you know that FOX News viewers are the least informed of any group of Television News Viewers? See, you prove my point.

Two of the greatest presidents in the past 200 years are Ronald Reagan and Abraham Lincoln.

I love that statement. You do realize that the two Republicans you identified could not run for national office as Republicans today, right? They would have to run as Democrats. Abraham Lincoln sent the United States to war to enforce Federal power over states rights and Ronald Reagan raised taxes 6 times.

Try to keep up Spanky.

I think you have some catching up to do Slick!

I love it Doc! Thanks!

Dwight Eisenhower, a decorated Army General, warned Americans to "beware the military-industrial complex." Ronald Reagan was a Hollywood celebrity, as well. He helped end the Cold War, supported the Brady gun control law, raised taxes and the debt ceiling. And Richard Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency and engaged in diplomacy with Communist China.

I suppose that all three of these Republicans have become much too, 'liberal,' for today's Far-Right G.O.P. Imagine the propagandizing that Rove's American Crossroads would create to prevent them from getting elected or re-elected, if those three men were alive and active in politics, today.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a moderate conservative party again?......Definitely time.......Caesar now you have become the obsolete farm machinery.....Good luck with the future.....

lets see, american crossoads, karl rove, the FBI, ....here:http://www.citizensforethics.org/page/-/PDFs/Legal/Letters/FEC/11_15_12_Crossroads_GPS_FBI_Complaint.pdf?nocdn=1

rradiko

Here's a hint; Republicans nearly always denounce their former leaders. The one exception is Ronald Reagan (they just reinvented him). What did you think of George W Bush's Republican Convention speech? Oh, that's right...he wasn't invited.

It's really ironic to note how they have denounced GW Bush yet support "Bush's Brain"; the man who was responsible for making Dubya...Dubya.

Caesar I have no desire to argue the existence of a god with you to each their own. However I would suggest that you do some more reading on Constantine your history of this man is very skewed.

rradiko

I suppose that all three of these Republicans have become much too, 'liberal,' for today's Far-Right G.O.P. Imagine the propagandizing that Rove's American Crossroads would create to prevent them from getting elected or re-elected, if those three men were alive and active in politics, today.

He would have done to Dwight D. Eisenhower (in the court of public opinion) what Joseph McCarthy attempted to do in the Senate to numerous US Generals post-WWII...accuse him of being a socialists, a communists...a fifth columnists...a Keynesian economist (federal highway system). He would probably have demanded to see his birth certificate.

Communists...they're all a bunch of Communists!

Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, what have they EVER done towards a progressive United States?

Ummm...they're not progressives and don't claim to be.

Ummm, it's the 21st Century.

Ummm but sectarian run countries don't work so well. We have values and those values are timeless. Whether you like it or not. Divide the country into this group, that group, the takers, the makers, the blacks, the whites, the Asians, the Latinos, the gay, the straight, and on and on. You set yourself up for a dictatorship as none of the groups can agree on anything as their particular agendas aren't being met. What is wrong with a country with what we used to have and those from other lands used to strive for? Anymore the groups want what they want when they want it. There is no coming here to be an American any more. Just to bring your ideas and ideals to a different plot of soil.

Mpotter,

There are only 3 ways to go: Progress, stagnation or regression. Which is better for America?

Radical progress without thinking about the consequences and learning from history and others who have tried is not good as well as the other two. And that is just what is happening. We want it all and right now. Trying to move and grow too fast has killed many a society as well as businesses throughout history.

We are losing our identity as a nation. That can help no one in the big picture. Someone has to lead and stay strong to convictions to maintain that identity. It is deteriorating way too fast.

Where was Ronald Reagan from again?

surprise, surprise, surprise, from Hollywood. And he wasn't a good actor at all, that is until he became President.

There are only 3 ways to go: Progress, stagnation or regression. Which is better for America?

You're confusing the definition of the word progress with progressivism, which is an ideology that is left of center in the political arena.

Ed missed one. Obama's plan. Destruction.

Progessivism is a good thing! Look at what you radical right wing nut jobs have done to our country. You are doing you best to turn it into a feudal society. Right now 1% owns 38% of the wealth and 50% is getting by on 2.5% of the wealth. That is banana republic territory.

Here is a good quote about what we liberals have done.

Lawrence O'Donnell On Liberals Versus Conservatives

There isn't ANYTHING wrong with Hollywood. They give their time and money to all sorts of great things to make America a more progressive nation. They have been doing it for years and years.

Yes, Sean Penn is great for the US! Building hospitals/schools in other countries and adopting children from other countries than our own is great for the US! Extreme left liberals like Alex Baldwin, JayZ, Beyonce, etc are great for the US! Racists like Freeman, Foxx, Samuel L Jackson are great for the US!

What you liberals don't get is for everything you yell at the republicans about, your party does the same exact friggin thing. You bitch about Koch, you have Soros, you bitch about Rove, you have Bill Maher, the list goes on and on.

None of you have any reason to bitch until you clean your own house. This is exactly why I don't belong to either of your damn parties.

Besides, the whole definition of progressive is to keep changing. Maybe I don't feel I need or want to change my morals, maybe I don't feel I need or want to change my beliefs. So what the @!$%# is it up to you to try and force ME to be someone I don't feel is right? You are trying to do the same exact thing to the right that you blame them for doing to you (holding you back). Being liberal is supposed to be letting people be who they are without placing blame or judging them, yet you are trying to force people to be the way YOU want them to be. Which is exactly what you blame the republicans for doing.....

OK Miklkit - if the top 1% own 38% of the wealth should they be then asked to pay more than 38% of the total taxes collected ?

You are doing you best to turn it into a feudal society. Right now 1% owns 38% of the wealth and 50% is getting by on 2.5% of the wealth.

And your goal is better? You want equality of income, which means take from the rich what they've earned, and give to the poor who didn't earn it. Guess what? There isn't enough money with the rich to accomplish that, so the middle class gets pulled into it. What's next? We're all equally poor. I'm not rich by any means, but my wife and I have EARNED what we have, and always strive to improve ourselves through our own hard work, not someone else's.

Read a @!$%#ing history book.

Progessivism is a good thing! Look at what you radical right wing nut jobs have done to our country.

What have the so-called far-wing nut jobs" do this country?

PS, Lawrence O'Donnell is wrong. It was Republicans that past the majority of his liberal claims. Look it up.

@ Pat Boston

You're not sick & tired of Hollywood artists getting Federal monies to take to another country? I feel that no matter what special project George Clooney has going on, if he's taking money out of the country to help those in another country, he can use his own money. We send waaaaay too much money out of country. All of this going on while we have people here who need help. Get a freaking clue George

The latest Pew Research shows that liberals are less tolerant of opposing points of view. The study finds liberals are far more sensitive about criticism. Liberal columnist Kirsten Powers noted that “Liberals, because they are used to controlling all the media, pretty much academia, that for them, when they hear things that don’t jibe with what they want to hear, it’s very disconcerting and unsettling to them.” Powers explained that after getting out of her own “Democratic bubble,” she noticed that conservatives tend to be more open to hearing opposing viewpoints than liberals."

I guess this outlines the "progressives" ability to listen to opposing views.

AlexM and Jay,

Yeah, it's terrible that Sean Penn, George Clooney, and their ilk are engaging in humanitarian work in other countries. They should be more like Republicans, who instead argue us into wars instead. There was no need to invade Iraq; my Senator Paul Wellstone knew that and fought it. He was gaining support for his position when, strangely, his small plane crashed one day before his name would have stayed on the ballot. Yes, the majority of Democrats voted for the invasion, but their votes were based on half-truths from the right.

Liberals the cancer thats killing America

Yeah, it's terrible that Sean Penn, George Clooney, and their ilk are engaging in humanitarian work in other countries. They should be more like Republicans, who instead argue us into wars instead. There was no need to invade Iraq;

Sean Penn is a friggin communist (seriously) and Clooney, like most liberal 'stars' is more worried about other countries than our own. Also, I agree with no need to go to Iraq, it's why I didn't vote for bush his second term. Republicans are definitely not innocent as far as where our country is now. I don't defend the republican politicians at all. But they are obviously paying for their mistakes as more and more leave the republican party, so I don't feel the need to hammer them. I just wish the citizens in the democrat party would wake and realize their politicians are no better.

This country will not get on the path to healing until the voters of both parties realize that we've been bamboozaled (cool word) and taken advantage of by our politicians catering for votes, catering to corporations, caters for money, catering for everything that benefits them, and hurts us, the citizens.

Just what we need another awful actress with Daddy issues,wanting to get her shot At her States issues when she can't even deal with her own.
And Progressive is code word for communist.....

@ NMPat

1st. I wouldn't belong to a political party if they paid me 100's of thousands of dollars. 2nd. I don't begrudge them doing humanitarian work at all. 3rd. We have plenty of humanitarian work to be done in this country. There is still alot that could be done in New Orleans. Also, Chicago could stand a huge amount of humanitarian work done. Keep our tax dollars here

NMPAT they should be MORE like Republicans that help OUT AMERICANS first. Yes you are correct in that statement. These POS's want to say they are helping, but they are not helping AMERICANS. they are more worried about other countries. That does NOT make them good Americans. Like the Republicans that you talk so bad about.

Liberals want to help out people as long as they do NOT have to spend there money. Easy to spend other peoples money.

Oh geeez..another liberal hollywood POS shooting her mouth off..like anyone cares WHAT she thinks

@ Ed-2874315, I'm all for regression...Post World War II, sounds great to me.

Kentucky will never vote her in. We love our guns and religion to much to have a *itch like this invade our state.

stopfreeloaders

Is the freeloader that is killing America.

The right wing wack jobs posting here today sure do have their panties in a bind. Just like Carl Rove.

Please explain why America needs to be changed? So everyone will have the same thought process with no debate? Because I see the liberal agenda hard at work in places like Baltimore,Detroit,Chicagoetc. and you can keep it. It is an agenda that kills off once proud neighborhoods, causes poverty and despair where there was once prosperity and joy, causes more to embrace the Government philosophy of the nanny state.Taxes are incredibly high and is unemployment, there is no thoughtful dialogue on how to solve problems, and after decades and billions of dollars spent ripped from the backs of the hard working these cities and municipalities only get worse. What is the end game? other than hating someone because they chose to worship a higher power, have a gun,have a heterosexual family,live outside the cities,are successful and love America. Please enlighten me,because as an Independent I see nothing but hate and negativity coming from the liberals.

Jay, Check out who's working quietly to help ordinary folks rebuild New Orleans. that d... liberal Brad Pitt and a bunch of African American musicians. I'm all for keeping our tax dollars here - so what politician is pushing to cut funding for the war in Afghanistan to increase funding to our schools? FYI - Sean Penn, George Clooney, and others aren't spending our tax dollars in other countries. It's their money. Unlike Romney, they're using their money to help fellow human beings, rather than stashing their millions in offshore accounts.

I need to move to Tennessee so I can vote for her.

... I mean Kentucky.

.

Ben, post-WWII does not sound great to me. It probably would not sound too great to any woman or person who is anything but white.

This is so predictable as to be boring. Anyone that is not the extreme right wing is going to be attacked by the right wing.

I use to be a big fan of her Husband, Dario Franchitti, until I found out how wacky his nutty wife is.

Many think that conservatism is dying, and I have to agree. The Nation as a whole is leading more toward progressivism. Thank God for that!

Well, Ashley has two big things in her favor: First of all, Anyone .... ANYONE is an improvement over Mitch, the Senate weasel, McConnell, and, 2 - she's an intelligent, well-educated, savvy young woman with a good head on her shoulders.

McConnell is such a dead horse, they only keep him on the Senate floor via regular injections of embalming fluid. If the worst thing Rove and his entourage can say about Judd is that she's a Democrat, he's better off to keep him mouth shut. (And,well, she'd be running against McConnell so that's almost a given, isn't it?) Kentucky would be lucky to get her. Oh, hel! Kentucky would be lucky to get anyone besides the weasel.

Many think that conservatism is dying, and I have to agree.

There was just a gallup poll that proved the conservatives still out number liberals by a good margin. Progressives will ruin this country, as they have ruined every country they've gotten control of. Look at europe, south america, etc.

RE: Ed B @ #2.29

Ed, despite the still reeling economy and the struggles to get the country back on track, in more ways than one, the nation is economically better off now than it was in 2009. Yes. There are still a lot of problems and, yes, we still have a federal budget to straighten up. But that cannot be laid solely at the feet of the current administration. As with every president, each one inherits, for better or worse, the offal, the leftovers if you will, of his predecessor. Whereas GeorgeII found a surplus in the government's larder when he went into office, in Obama's case, he inherited, not only a shaky government economy and outrageous budget deficit, he also inherited an unstable business economy being propped up by federal tax cuts and loopholes which, in turn, served only to do more damage to the government's bottom line.

Now, this is not intended as a kick-sand-in-the-face of the Republican party. The nation has, in my opinion, had some excellent presidents from both sides of the aisle. And some real dreadful crooks as well. But in G-2s case? The nation may have been better off without a president at all!

RE: Alex M @ #2.38

If Conservatives outnumber Liberals ... how did Obama get elected? TWICE!?

There is none so blind as he who will not see.

You Go girl! Don't fear those ba***rds! we need alot of new blood in this country and get the old stuffy ignorant people out! It's time to repair the country with aware people who care!

Pat Boston MA. Comment collapsed by the community

There isn't ANYTHING wrong with Hollywood. They give their time and money to all sorts of great things to make America a more progressive nation. They have been doing it for years and years.

Some of them maybe but let's not forget, they are also the 1%er's you guys are always bitching about. Middle class families can barely afford to go to the movies anymore while some of these actors pull in 10 million for a couple weeks work. Why is it you guys aways exclude the Hollywood types from your "fair share" rants??

Their movies since the beginning of movies tell stories about real, sometimes tragic America in, order to change America. In order to have a real conversation.

ROTFLMAO!! Their movies are mostly full of @!$%# and are all (loosely) "based on" real events and people. Such movies are little more than propaganda in most cases going all the way back to WW2. Seriously dude, if you think Hollywood movies are "real stories" you've got some major issues!

TheWordSmith, I can appreiciate your dialogue but as a small business owner you are wrong about the economy, all signs are pointing toward another recession. This administration continued the Bush plan of bailouts to banks and other industries. The stimulus is now built in the baseline budget and no one ever seems to question where that money goes. My question remains why does America need to be changed and what is the end game of the liberal agenda? I do not see it as being beter for anyone, my experience has been living in Liberal run States that are in the toilet and inventing new taxes through the exploitation of tragedy, hardship and misinformation. I did ask a question and again thank you for your rational response it is very refreshing.

Backcountry - again with the lie that liberals have problems with people who are rich. But of course, you have to lie to have anything to say. No one hates the rich - many liberals ARE rich. Get over the stupidity!

And, let's not forget Brad Pitt - helped build homes in Louisiana, Sandra Bullock - helped rebuild and support a school in Louisiana, George Clooney - has supported programs in third world countries as well as programs here; Matt Damon - huge suppoter of not-for-profits in the US; the list goes on and on!

As usual, the little right wingers are afraid of a strong, intelligent, successful woman!

stopfreeloaders

Liberals the cancer thats killing America

Enjoy that rant while you can...your party is committing suicide and there will be few mourners.

" The only thing that remains the same is that everything changes"

Anonymous

The conservatives said that Social Security would ruin the nation.

The conservatives said that Medicare would ruin the nation.

Every good and kind thing the Government has ever done has been a liberal, progressive idea.

The National Parks ( Progressive idea)

Child Labor Laws ( Progressive idea)

40-hour work week ( Progressive idea)

Civil Rights ( Liberal idea)

Voting Rights Act ( Liberal idea)

Need I say more ??

I just love the warm fuzzy feel I get from the radical left and right on this blog. As a conservative small business owner and Christian I just have to ask since when has polarization and division benefited individuals or the country? The answer is obvious. Until we re-learn how to have a disagreement on policy and yet make better decisions for the majority we are adrift and lost. Atheist here have their own "god" and it is their selfishness and "better, smarter than you attitude". Some of the "christians" here need to understand we are all flawed and in need of a saviour. In each case the truth is we need each other to form a healthy community as a nation. Until we stop allowing the poor leadership in this country to divides us we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of every other nation in world history and collapse. Just saying we all have a choice no matter who we elevate to god status. I personally find comfort in the fact that the God I worship loves everyone regardless of their personal beliefs or hang ups. That is pretty inclusive in my world view. The most powerful example should be how we live, speak, and treat those around us. I think both sides should ponder the power of individuals like Gandhi, King, Mother Teresa, and a host of others that learned somehow to live other centered lives.

The single most important thing that has made America great is Liberty. The more we infringe on each others liberty the darker our country becomes. I am tired of the ugliness of one group demanding precedence over another. This is the beginning of tyranny and we need to choose to stop it before it is too late.

To my fellow Americans we can do better.

SeekingSanity

Backcountry - again with the lie that liberals have problems with people who are rich. But of course, you have to lie to have anything to say. No one hates the rich - many liberals ARE rich. Get over the stupidity!

I'd love to get over the stupidity but people like you are constantly spewing it all over the place. This quote being a perfect example. You want to talk about lying...where the @!$%# did I say anything about anyone hating anyone else?? "you have to lie to have anything to say." Just because that's your MO don't assume everyone else does it also.

And, let's not forget Brad Pitt...blah, blah, blah

And GWB is building homes somewhere in Africa or something. Is he now a saint also??

As usual, the little right wingers are afraid of a strong, intelligent, successful woman!

LOL! Certainly no more so than liberals. Both parties love their women but think women on the other side are idiots. Try not to make such a hypocrite out of yourself by bitching about the "other guys" doing the same thing "your guys" do.

Notsosure10

Atheist here have their own "god" and it is their selfishness and "better, smarter than you attitude".

Go thump your bible somewhere else. Selfishness? Oh, like Manifest Destiny? Smarter then you attitude...like the forced conversions in Europe or Latin America? Christian...heal thyself!

backcountry - GWB is in Texas. He can't leave the country because the World Court has a warrant out for him, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield - for war crimes. None of them have ever done anything - with the small exception of Dubya working with Clinton on Haiti relief - and the Hague turned their backs since it was a humanitarian effort.

Sorry, liberals love strong women and don't fear them like you little, tiny boys on the right. Sad little boys you are!

Backcountry164

And GWB is building homes somewhere in Africa or something. Is he now a saint also??

Really? building homes somewhere or something? Could you be more vague?

Ol_Doc

Really? building homes somewhere or something? Could you be more vague?

Yeah sorry, I don't give a rat's ass about GWB or what he does anymore so I don't pay a whole lot of attention and didn't want to waste my time looking it up.

"He worked alongside other volunteers in Kabwe - Zambia's second-largest city - to renovate a health clinic which specializes in the early detection and treatment of cervical cancer." http://www.voanews.com/content/george-bush-africa-cervical-cancer/1363615.html

Satisfied??

SeekingSanity

Sorry, liberals love strong women and don't fear them like you little, tiny boys on the right. Sad little boys you are!

ROTFLMAO!! Liberals love strong LIBERAL women but waste no time demeaning any woman who dares to have a conservative viewpoint. As we see in comments all over the Vine, here's a recent example-http://brite.newsvine.com/_news/2013/01/31/16792874-gayle-trotter-fought-vawa-before-senate-guns-hearing-tpmdc

If you really want to prove me wrong please do include your list of conservative women you admire.

abd btw, I'll point out once again that I'm not "right wing". Hell, I actually would have voted for Hillary Clinton had you dems not decided to go with style over substance.

Backcountry164

Why yes...thank you.

Backcountry - let's see, conservative women I admire - Sarah Palin - nah; Michelle Bachmann - nope; Christine O'Donnell - not a chance in hell - well if conservatives HAD any strong, smart women, I'd admire them. Unfortunately for conservatives, they all left the party since conservatives don't like Strong, Smart, Successful women! Get it now!

SeekingSanity

Backcountry - let's see, conservative women I admire - Sarah Palin - nah; Michelle Bachmann - nope; Christine O'Donnell - not a chance in hell - well if conservatives HAD any strong, smart women, I'd admire them. Unfortunately for conservatives, they all left the party since conservatives don't like Strong, Smart, Successful women! Get it now!

Susan Collins, Olympia Snow; oh that's right, the Tea Party people ran them out of the Senate.

Ol_Doc

Why yes...thank you.

You're welcome

SeekingSanity

well if conservatives HAD any strong, smart women, I'd admire them

Thank you also for admitting that I was correct. You don't think there is a single strong woman in the republican party?? Why don't you just knock of the lying?? Weren't you bitching about that earlier? Why don't you just admit that you despise these women because you don't agree with their viewpoints because you'd have to be an idiot to say there are no "Strong, Smart, Successful" conservative women. After all, I'll bet these women you mention specifically have accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have. If they're not "successful" what exactly would that say about you??

@ Pat Boston, MA: I thought you were being sarcastic at first. You're going to be very disappointed in life.

If Conservatives outnumber Liberals ... how did Obama get elected? TWICE!?

A lot of conservatives didn't vote this last election because they didn't like either option. There have been plenty of articles about the votes (or lack of) during the election, I'm pretty sure you can figure out how to find them.

AlexM-3929653

A lot of conservatives didn't vote this last election because they didn't like either option. There have been plenty of articles about the votes (or lack of) during the election, I'm pretty sure you can figure out how to find them.

Put the crack pipe down...step away from the crack pipe...no one needs to get hurt.

The truth is finally out: George is really Karl "BRAIN"!