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Well, it's Friday afternoon again, but I'm having a hard time getting into the party spirit today - gee, could it be that this was a really ugly week up on Capitol Hill? Could it be that it was even uglier around here with the sick, vile comments people were making about Gabby Giffords? Could it be that I just entrusted some data entry for a very picky client to a supervisor because most of her staff can't spell "to", "too" or "two" the right way, and the SUPERVISOR just came over and asked me if she needed to capitalize the pronoun "I" when it appears in the middle of a sentence, too - or just at the beginning? (head smack.....head smack.....) Is it because it's February already and that means summer is almost here? (I hate summer). Or should we just blame it all on Dan Marino?
Whatever.....I'm gonna go get the Dew Drop Inn tune machine cranked up and start drowning my sorrows. Lots of requests and dedications already coming in, so let's get started:
For our new Secretary of State, John Kerry - let's start with Ricky Nelson's "Traveling Man", followed by Willie Nelson's "On The Road Again", slide in some Johnny Cash and "I've Been Everywhere", and finish up with Nat King Cole's lovely take on the classic "Around The World".
For the aforementioned Dan Marino - what else but old Hank's "Your Cheatin' Heart"?
For me, who spent some of the best Sunday afternoons and Monday nights of my life with Dan and who's now left wondering "Where have all the good men gone and where are all the gods?", I gotta have some Bonnie Tyler and "Holding Out For A Hero". What the hell, let's throw in "Total Eclipse of the Heart" while we're at it. Ah, Danny boy, apparently we hardly knew ye.....
For all of us on Newsvine as next Thursday fast approaches, call me a pessimist, but I feel the need for some Creedence and "Bad Moon Rising". This just can't be good.....
And finally.....for John McCain, who's spent the last couple weeks stomping his feet and sulking and throwing attention-getting temper tantrums that would do any three-year-old proud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDQHjYIojTs
And no, you can't have 'em with tequila, so don't even ask!
Hey JoAnne how's about a little of "Cry like a Baby" from the Boxtops for ol' Maverick McCain.
Perhaps a little Bob Dylan, The Times They are a Changin'.
Odd how once the gun hearing FR threads were done for the week, all the paid NRA & Friends crowd disappeared. Much more pleasant today.
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Ah, the dangers of setting a placeholder.
How about "Born to be Wild" for Scott (Thanks Tea Party Republicans, now see ya) Brown?
Cheers!
JoAnn- don't forget the fools that confuse then/than and effect/affect.
Tunes: Count 5 "Psychotic Reaction" for those on the right who holler about embassy attacks and demand to konw 'who knew what and when did they know it?" and then, when 20 small children are ripped apart by lead, say "now wait....don't jump to conclusions here"
JoAnne,
What a way to get this party started!! Love the music.
And I want to make the first toast to Hillary Clinton. Cheers!
Take a long rest, go someplace warm and pamper yourself. We will all be waiting when you decide on any new venture.
Okay, I am wayyyy confused right now! I guess I totally missed the heads up launch story(thanks whoever provided the link). I guess I am gonna have to really check this out. I don't get the 15 something or other. Does that mean we are to choose the groups we are in? I'm getting a headache!
Bar keep!! This has turned into a Straight up Whisky day for this girl! And here I thought Friday on the Vine was going so well! I don't think choosing a story with the g-word in it is the best place for Friday cocktails! Any way we can keep shoving out all the right wing nuts so they don't get a word in?!!! Arrgh!
Bali Bob - Thanks for the clarification, I having a hard time with your shorthand there - thought you were asking for "Polka Dots and Moonbeams" or maybe "Itsy-Bitsy-Teeny-Weeny-Yellow-Polka-Dot-Bikini".....then I guessed maybe it was Billy Preston and "Nothing From Nothing Leaves Nothing". We've got 'em all, no problem.
drive-by - Yeah, thanks - "then" vs. "than" is another favorite. And of course they're's always there bad habit of using the wrong word here their and everywhere.....
GUN/AMMUNITION/MAGAZINE RESTRICTIONS.............................................
I want any of you who are in favor of restrictions to PROVE to me and anyone else how ANY restrictions will absolutely prevent the loss of life to any man, woman or child in the country today, tomorrow or the next day.
We have laws in this country which state that it is illegal to possess/use cocaine and heroine. How is that working out for everybody? Because of those laws NOBODY in this country, not one man, woman or child uses cocaine or heroine; right? Not one person has become addicted to and/or died because of the use of those drugs right?
Wrong?
Then explain how any of the changes in the laws anybody is proposing will end all deaths related to gun violence. The essence is one in the same. The only exception is that tens of thousands of people in this country already legally own guns and ammunition will still possess them regardless of any new law and a later tragedy could result from the improper use of those weapons.
If I thought for one minute that any legislation would be effective in preventing the loss of life to another person I would be here with others pleading for a quick resolution to get it done. I am sick of reading about and hearing about people killing one another in this country with guns. But the current legislation being offered simply isn't going to get it done.
How about Harry Nilsson's You're Breaking My Heart for Dan Marino. Hell, some of the sentiments expressed in that song sum up my feeling for the tea potty too!
Oh, and how about 'Top of the World" (Lynn Anderson or Karen Carpenter, your pick) for that dismal ol' Dow Jones guy, JoAnn?
AG-whisky's too rough, champaign costs too much....and vodka puts my mouth in gear. this little refrain should help me explain- as a matter of fact, I Like Beer. (with Special thanks to Tom T Hall.)
"...bad habit of using the wrong word here their and everywhere....."
Now, there...they're...their, JoAnn- settle down.
nomoresameo: when you start with a goal of 100%, you are always wrong. You can't ever get there. But just like cracking down on DUI has helped in the goal of reducing deaths due to alcohol and cars, so can nationalizing some laws help reduce death by guns.
The current problem is that each state has different laws, so if it is hard for someone to buy in one state, they may just be able to get a gun through a gun show or in a different state.
What if we had the same laws across the board? Would it save everyone? No. Would it reduce the amount of deaths by guns, where many people are massacred, and children are among them?
I would sure like to find out.
No one is talking about outlawing guns. But just like common sense legislation can save lives by discouraging drinking and driving, I expect the same with common sense legislation about guns, waiting periods and background checks.
Isn't it worth a try to save a life? I think so.
nomoresameo you want to lighten up there a little bit. The only shots we are taking this weekend involve a Bar not the Shooting Range. Hell you probably couldn't hit what your aiming at anyway either way but from where I'm setting your mouth is the bigger target so I'd try that first
drive-by:
Nothing wrong with a little rough now and again! HA! Sorry, I really could not resist that one!
@Independent: THANK YOU!
Sorry Brian, I am just plum wore out on gun talk right now...
Kick back & relax, I'll buy you a drink!
Pick your poison! lol
" a little rough now and again! HA! Sorry, I really could not resist that one!"
Some guys LIKE that sort of thing......"ooohhh- quit it some more".
Wait- now I sound like Priebus and the whole RNC...
The current problem is that each state has different laws, so if it is hard for someone to buy in one state, they may just be able to get a gun through a gun show or in a different state.
I fully understand why it may help to reduce certain purchases Newday. But will that solve the problem? Just because fewer people die are we a more civilized society? If only one moron a year massacres more children at a school do we sleep better at night? I know I wouldn't.
All I'm saying is that they need to stop pussyfooting around in D.C. Either go for the throat and try to eliminate the 2nd Amendment completely, or end this nonsense.
Independent Redneck.............. I really don't care what YOU or anyone is talking about at this very minute. I'm hardly the first person to come here and go off thread. Please don't try to tell me or anyone else that a person shouldn't be saying something just because you don't like it. As far as my marksmanship with a weapon, you are far from the truth. I was rated as a sharpshooter because of the training I received in the military. I don't own a weapon and haven't fired one since my days in the military, but I believe I could still prove you wrong if it came to it.
Feisty - sent you an email.
Hey guys - what a busy week - politically, on FR and at work. I can use one at the DDI tonight and the music listed sounds perfect! See you all there!
AlaskaGirl - whew - glad it's not just me. I missed the whole change in newsvine too. I try to post while working and often don't get to really read anything else going on with the group. I'll have to do homework (darn I thought I was past that!) this weekend to catch up! :-(
Kick back & relax, I'll buy you a drink!
Pick your poison! lol
Thank you my dear friend! Make mine a gin and tonic!
Have a great wekend and enoy the superbowl! I'll be pulling for the 49ers here.
Feisty ...
AMEN to that and all of the negative comments this week about some wonderful strong women who have served this country.
I'll take whatever you're pouring as long as it's not sweet . . .
Coming right up darling! ☺
I'd be happy to debate you next week on guns, just that The Week Ahead is a place we all come to, to kick back relax and toss back a few after a long week on the vine!
......just that The Week Ahead is a place we all come to, to kick back relax and toss back a few after a long week on the vine!
My bad! Sorry for the rant and treading where I shouldn't.
I Apologize to Independent Redneck as well.
I had no idea that this part of First Read was basically reserved as a unwinding forum. I'm not normally here on a Friday afternoon/evening.
Sorry again folks.................................
Line 'em up, and set 'em down! Make mine the usual double.
Ain't that the truth (sighs). And to think I used to actually respect this man because of his service to the country and all. Now, he's just another pitiful old man, bitter because his best years are behind him and there's nothing he can do about it. He has absolutely no vision for this nation other than to block anything remotely connected to Barack Obama, simply out of spite. Talk about a sore loser. If awards were handed out, he would take home the most.
Hey nomo didn't recognize you there at first. No problem. Let me buy you a drink and set a spell. Like Betty said we're all kinda tired of dealing with Old Yosemite Sam Types this week. Still got plenty of time You can get in some serious licks first thing Monday. We've kinda gone into Super Sunday mode and you might catch us in a weak moment come then
nomoresameo: You are one of my favorite people that post. Please don't apologize and accept our nonsense for what it is.
Yes. I think if we save one life, we have saved the world. I would like to try.
There is no need to eliminate the Second Amendment, I think it is an important Amendment. People should be able to own their guns.
But do they really need to have enough power to kill 20 first graders? I just don't think so.
I don't know why you gun nut guys are getting your panties in such a tight knot! Not once, ever since this whole discussion begin have I heard anyone, anywhere saying anything about changing or eliminating the 2nd Amendment. No one. Not the president, vice president or any member of congress. By you saying what you did shows how badly you get sucked into the vortex spread by the likes of FOX, Limbaugh and the morons at the NRA. Wayne LaPierre is nothing but a stooge for the gun manufactures who are making billions off of these fear mongering tactics. All of this has been just discussion, in which all were invited to participate in, including the NRA. They've done not one constructive thing other than offer the solution of more guns. That's not going to work. People want real solutions. Now, you can rest easy because most of us are resigned to the fact that nothing is going to change either. You may as well try banning cell phones before you do guns because there are more of them in this country. The only thing that may go through is universal background checks closing the gun show loophole. Most folks seem to agree on that one. So relax and have a drink on the house and enjoy the weekend. The Stupid Bowl is on Sunday and I, for one, can't wait for the new commercials. Hope they're better than last year's crop.
Brian,
Absolutely no apologies necessary!
Just glad to see you found your way to the Dew Drop Inn! ☺
newdayDAWNING...RETURNED
nomoresameo: You are one of my favorite people that post. Please don't apologize and accept our nonsense for what it is.
Thank you so much. I also enjoy your posts and those of so many others here of which I seem to be on the opposite side of an issue with here. But in respect of the forum and the wishes of other's, I'll refrain from making any additional comments about the matter until a later date.
Have a great weekend and stay healthy and happy!
nomo, you are gracious! Everyone is welcome for Friday cocktails as long as the talk is light(no controversy) and the drinks are many!!! There are a number of Republicans who come here and join in on the silliness! I guess I better buy sfcret a drink! We seem to be sparring in a corner of the bar somewhere!!
You have a great weekend as well!
The week ends with a bit of sad news upon hearing of the death of former NYC mayor, Ed Koch.
You too, nomoreso! And really, no harm no foul. Happy to talk to you about this today if you would like to.
tonybeeerm . . .
Agreed. Just got home from work and I listen to NPR while driving ... they did a really good job commemorating his life and work ....
"How'm I doin'?"
Very well, sir, very well . . .
RIP Mayor Koch
We're in a period where money printing has supported debt markets and boosted stock prices, but none of the massively negative consequences from the flood of money has been seen (leading many people to conclude that there won't be any, which is wrong).
No currencies have been drastically weak, because all G-7 currencies are bad, and inflation hasn't really started screaming, while people are willing to overlook what inflation exists -- for now.
We are at a moment in time - where the act of money printing no longer causes gold to move higher, since it is boosting stock markets and lulling people to sleep.
However, all the drastic consequences are staring us in the face - and will soon start to matter.
But just as it is difficult to tell in advance when the madness of crowds will exhaust itself (as we saw during the equity and housing bubbles), it's difficult to say when the "crowd" is going to realize - that just because stocks are higher doesn't mean that we aren't headed for a train wreck in America.
Eventually the Fed will no longer able to print its way past trouble, not to mention the fact that inflation - is certainly headed higher.
And for Mayor Ed Koch, a personal favorite of mine.
"I'm going up the country where the water taste like wine, I going up the country where the water taste like wine, I'm going to jump in the water and stay drunk all the time." * 1
As witnessed at the Bull Island music festival, in 1972. One of the few things I remember about the '70's. was the music, yep that was a great time. Sex, drugs and rock and roll. Grand Funk Rail Road, The James gang, Iron butterfly, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heep, and the ageless Rolling Stones.
*1 "Going up the country" Canned Heat 1972
"*1 "Going up the country" Canned Heat 1972"
O M G !!! "C'mon if y'wanna go...."
And- Jimmy what'iz'name- Star Spangled dude? Jim Morrison and the ...WHO were those guys, agian?
And if you're that old, you recognized the hidden genius of Frank Zappa and Eric Burdon??
Uh, Jontho- I may have gone around the bend with some of those las ones. Let's try....Allman Bros Band, Santana, and....say.....Moody Blues?
It's Saturday morning, Groundhog Day, and the little guy didn't see his shadow (it's sunny enough here!) so we'll supposedly have a short winter. With global warming, maybe winter will become a thing of the past.
Well, it looks like my attempt to cheer you up has failed utterly! ;)
Have a nice Groundhog Day everyone!
Its Saturday and today its Sunny on Feb 2 in Seattle. A rare thing...... Ill take it!
Yeah, drive by, I am that old, and I do recognize those bands, while not personal favorites, Remember protest music. Country Joe McDonald, Bob Dylan. Those were the days, much like these days as today is only yesterdays tomorrow. Jimmy Hendricks, No one can go to bed without remembering Janice Joplin. Purple haze acid, window pane, sugar cube, mini whites were popular with truck drivers and students, and the ever present pot. 100 years later and we are still putting people in jail for a harmless plant. Somethings change and others are always the same.
A heads up for those that still care, Leonard Pitts offers a unique prospective this week in his column this week.
2-Lane: Lived in Seattle years ago and miss it to this day! Enjoy your sunny day. There is nothing happier than when the sun comes out in Seattle in the winter.
With sameo,sameo theories we should stop everything that doesn't work 100%. As he said if gun safety laws can't get rid of 100% of the gun deaths, then why bother.
With that thinking we should close all prisons as they don't keep 100% of crime from happening. We should end the drunk driving laws as they don't stop 100% of the drunk driving. Why any laws at all, as the laws certainly don't stop 100% of the crime?
Man Alive what a week not only for We the People but for the World.
YEEEEEE HAAAW Super Bowl Weekend
Unless I misread the Good Book the Man Upstairs created Tavern’s so we could gather together and watch the Super Bowl and the NCAA Final Four in a convivial setting with rounds of shots and beers won and lost all around and great talking of trash back and forth amongst friends and rivals.
So as soon as you’ll get yourselves together you’ll need to head on down to the Dew Drop Inn for the Mother of all Super Bowl Weekends. Brought in 10 new Big Screens and put on half a dozen Bartenders’. Just our way of stimulating the economy. Most of the time we try to keep it bi-partisan but I noticed a bunch of purple face paint and the rumor that ‘Ol Edgar Allan has scheduled an apperance slipped in with the wait staff this morning. Sorry but you’ll San Fran fans will just have to deal with it. Couple of shots of that Freedom Lightin’ kind of has a tendency to make best friends out of the bitterest rivals any way. Old Drive – by says he’s going to keep the volume down on the music this weekend so’s we can hear the play-by and just fill in the gaps in events.
Now it’s been brought to our attention that since our hosts have very graciously kept F.R open for us some weekends when events warranted and some of you have been slipping out the back door of the Inn when you really aren’t safe to travel that we need to encourage the use of our ancillary facility.
The Come Back Inn is going to stay open for business 24/7 this weekend. Got plenty of room and just like the Dew Drop Inn we hope that just as many of our friends and neighbors stop in, take a load off and take just as long as you need to smooth out your peace of mind. Enjoy the view. Enjoy the company. Make a memory or two if you’re so inclined. Just don’t tear up the furniture thank you. Just like our participation here at First Read it is what you want to make of it.
Plus that it’s got a big old common room where we can take you if you overindulge yourself down at the Dew Drop. We’ll take you down there and prop you up in a chair in front of the fireplace and keep all your Buddies with the Sharpies off of you so you don’t have to explain a bunch of writing on your forehead if you messed up and didn’t bring your S.O. to the Party.
As always my thanks and appreciation to our hosts for their time, giving me a little place to stand, a subject to comment on, a forum to put it in, and their indulgence when I don’t quite get it right or get a little off subject. I purely do appreciate it. Hope you’ll have a fine weekend and good fun among folks that you know and love. To my fellow participants keep well, keep safe, and keep the faith. We’ll make it. See you’ll next week
Come on Newday let’s get the sleigh hooked up and we’ll go after our friends that are still snowbound and then ferry some folks back and forth between to two Inns. Been a long time since I drove a sleigh and I generally need a little supervision to keep me out of trouble anyway. What you say there dear I’ve even got a little flask that I’ll share to ward off frostbite.
I need that sleigh today IR, you should see the snow. But thinking I am going to have to borrow the Clydesdales from up the road, that is if Budweiser isn't using them all for the Super Bowl commercials this week. Gotta bust through those drifts somehow! I'll give you the reins as soon as I see you IR, some of those curvy hills going down into Dew Drop Inn Valley are a bit scary, and I would rather close my eyes and take a good sip of what you have in that flask in your pocket. You did bring it, didn't you?
What oh what have we learned this week? There are some folks that make such an impression during their time on this earth that they just can't be forgotten. Ed Koch was one of those people. I imagine Ed is up in heaven right now, saying "You know God, we can make heaven more profitable by just making these tiny changes", and totally reorganizing the place before the Almighty quite knows what happened. Whatever you thought about Ed Koch during his time in New York, he cleaned it up, and made it into a place that tourists really want to visit. He did that with style and panache, the kind that you just don't see anymore. He was a man that loved politics, showmanship and people, and he left New York a better place than he found it. God bless you, Ed, and thanks for the entertainment!
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton retires from her office, and I hope she enjoys her time off. She has worked hard, done a wonderful job and deserves a good rest! Could you all in the press just let her be, and NOT hector her about running for President? We all need a breather from elections!
To Mark and Domenico and First Read staff, thanks for letting us come here and speak our piece. Been an interesting week, going to be more interesting as we get into trying to do something about guns.
IR! Where's that flask! I'm ready for the party. Will be staying at the Come Back Inn tonight! Have a good weekend all.
Happy Super Bowl Weekend!
It has been a week; I'm hoping those republican senators figure out where they left their manners and civility. It's been missing the past two weeks especially.
Oh Jody - don't hold your breath. I believe those senators lost all semblance of manners, civility and integrity as well as pride L O N G ago!
hey IR and NDD,
I have some hand warmers left over from the inauguration I can contribute for the sleigh ride participants.
And some wool authentic Canadian blankets with the red and green stripe on the edge to keep warm. it is right now a high of 1 degree and it is starting to snow.
Hey, Northstar, don't tell anyone, but I didn't need the hand-warmers and toe-warmers a friend gave me for the Inauguration - for me, it was perfectly balmy that day! - so I've been using them to warm up the bed I made out in the garage for the stray cat that I've NOT been adopting for the last two years now. I even bought some more of them last week. Not that I'm the local crazy cat lady or anything, of course.....
Perfect, Northstar, the blanket adds just the right touch. JoAnne, that kitty sure found the right person! My barn cats are doing great, hiding in the straw, and it has been -20 below here. They have a water warmer and get extra food in this weather. But, both are fat and sassy!
Not that I'm the local crazy cat lady or anything, of course...
No judgment here!
Joanne,
Those hand warmers last 10 hours... your cat that is no longer a stray...LOL,LOL, you have a pet for life.
Happy Friday all!!! For anyone wondering...yes, I'm the one running around with the purple face paint. GO RAVENS!!!! :-)
Maybe if the Ravens win a little of it wil rub off on the Caps Grimey. So far it don't look like they can get the Puck intoduced to the Net on a regular schedule.
Hi ya Frank! Enjoy the Super Bowl
IR: I hope the Caps do not pick it up tonight. Go Flyers!
IR...you are not kidding...can't afford this slow start w a shortened season.
Thamks Newday!!:-)
Ah, Super Bowl weekend, GO LIONS, er, well maybe next year.
D*mn Caps.
Sorry, Johntho... next year it'll be the STEELERS!!
Kaybeetoys, The sad thing is, you are probably right. I remember the last championship for the Lions, 1957. ) - : Don't you think the law of averages ought to come into play here? ( - :
49ers, nobody's got it better than the Bay Area. First World Series Champs and now the Super Bowl.
Go 9ers.
Next year the Iggles.☺
Ah ha - I'm torn on this, a little. Jim Harbaugh played for the Bears so he's kinda a home towner. But, the 49ers have won sooooo much I think I'm sticking with the Ravens!
Exit0 :"Next year the Iggles.☺"
Spoken like a true believer - which, sad to say, I have never been. Don't hate me - honestly, I've lived and died with every other Philly team at one point or another, but Sunday for me means:
Go, Iggles! No, seriously......just go. Take Michael Vick with you. And Merrill Reese. And those ugly uniforms. And that stupid "Fly, Eagles, Fly" fight song. And those fans from the old 700 level. Don't they need an NFL franchise in, like, Albuquerque or somewhere?
Ah, well.....at least we don't have Andy Reid to kick around anymore..... :)
What’s it all about Alfie? It is all about February 7 … Newsvine’s very own Mayan calendar.
Bartender, I’ll have a to hell with it all martini … just pass that bottle over here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlVpVIeY74U
A list of a few things you may need on February 7- paper towels, extra computer screens, painkillers, a bottle of MacBitch & MacNasty single malt, every filthy word you know, barf bags, your therapist on standby, a dead cat to kick … some extra Depends would not hurt.
http://blog.newsvine.com/_news/2013/01/31/16774337-new-newsvine-has-a-launch-date-february-7th
I hope we are all still here on the 8th.
Ah Hell BCWC don't you fret none. If things don't go the way they think they will we'll just get 'Ol Pepe LaPew on the horn and have him send over a couple of AR-16's with them fancy drum magazines and we'll just overthrow Newsvine.
Yikes BCWC! I guess I don't pay attention much to Vine news. Thanks for the link. I will answer one question that I saw posed there regarding why on a Thursday.
I work with programmers and the like and when we do upgrades or patches, we always do them on a Thursday afternoon. Useage of systems is usually lower on Fridays as people are prepping for the weekend and it gives you time to make changes prior to Monday which is typically the heaviest day in case your "upgrade" crashes the entire system.
That being said, if not, it was sure good to meet you all!
BCWC,
I am sooo impressed with the dance of a thousand veils Tyler & Sally are doing over there!
Is there a reason they can't answer simple questions? It's one excuse after another...
From what I read, they're hot to implement that @!$%# show onto FR!
You heard it here first folks, if it ever comes to fruition, it will be my LAST day on First Read!
@Newsvine vets,
Looked up the links. Excuse my ignorance, but what's going on? Please explain in layman's terms. Sounds scary.
Gawd! Isn't there a way for some of us to hook up with y'all so we don't get left twisting on the Vine, as it were? Can we pass some virtual hazing to get into the "not so secret anymore club"?
Read the link. I am confused as I only pop in now & then so have no clue what that Nations stuff is about. Will folks like me be shut out? Can we even still just hop in to read? Going to ruin my day if I can't see what others are thinking. I feel myself going into deep depression!!! (kidding sort of)
BCWC,
Thursday and First Thought should be a a real test. But I have it on good word from a guy named Mark(not Murray) that First Read will be the same for now.... the rest of NewsVine will be full of nations...sounds like a Mayan thing to me....
I'll give it a shot Bob!
If I'm understanding all the double talk by the warden Tyler & his deputy, nothing is going to change here on First Read on the 7th. It will only affect those who utilize Newsvine.
The issues we have with this is, many of us are members of private groups which unless we delete them, will become public. There will be NO PRIVACY moving forward...
These changes feel to me like they are forcing people to either leave the vine or having to pick and chose their nation limit. It all feels very cliquey if you ask me.
I also see where they are excited to pitch this flawed mess to First Read. Who, I believe will listen to input from long time users like myself and many others here instead of cramming this down the throats of viners without listening to their input.
That's my 0.02 now I need a rather LARGE drink! ☺
>>>Northstar - Mark is the founder of Newsvine.
@Feisty,
Thanks for the response. Will stay tuned and hope for the best.
Meanwhile:
CHUG-A-LUG
Peace
Feisty, I don't understand the changes on newsvine. Will we still be able to post here on FR. Everyone have a great super-Bowl weekend.
lisa s and Deb: you will still be able to post on First Read, this mostly affects Newsvine and groups. Don't worry too much about it.
Have a good weekend.
Lisa,
From what I understand, yes (for now)!
But don't hold me to that! lol
It's difficult to decode the cryptic answers being given by the moderators...
You too!
Am I the only one who thinks this is the most boring Super Bowl in recent history?
Who am I kidding, I watch it for the commercials! ☺
Feisty,
Thanks for the update .
Nice that the founder of NewsVine answered my question on the other blog. I am impressed
Feisty, I just don't really care which team wins. Your (for now) doesn't sound good. I really have come to enjoy the conversation here. I may not agree with all of you and many times you don't agree with me but I enjoy exchanging ideas here.
Feisty, the dance of veils has been going on since beta testing started. A lot of the original testers threw up their hands in disgust. The overall feeling is that we are being herded into realms of zero creativity.
Feisty - the commercial will be great and I'm really hoping the Ravens win - SF has just won tooooooo many!
Northstar,
You should be! ;o)
Same here Lisa - one thing I have always admired about you is, you're the real deal! Nothing I appreciate more then honesty even if I don't always agree with your views!
BCWC,
Couldn't agree more!
They did NOTHING to address the major complaints from users like allowing gangs of collapse cowards to rove freely and wreak havoc.
Re-reg's run rampant and they do NOTHING about it. You send them an e-mail and if they respond (you're lucky) but it may take days... and so on... Good luck to them, they are going to need it!
Seeking,
Got my Feisty Five Alarm Chili and wings ready to go! ;o)
Sorry, I don't even watch it for the commercials! Just not a football kinda girl, but set me in front of a baseball game with a hot dog and a drink, and I am one happy girl!
This year however, I will be watching the Super Bowl pregame as apparently some kids from Sandy Hook Elementary are going to sing one of our patriotic songs.......don't remember which one! Should be neat to see, though.
Alaska ... baseball ... swing with my
batdog and you might get the optional hot drink.Wow! I have no idea what you are talking about. If I never get to read your post again, you will be missed. It is always fun.
Straight Scotch
Feisty ....
Calling BS on that one! It's because Da Bears aren't there! Neither are my Saints but good laws NO knows how to party! Can't wait for our teams to play next year! And as a former Bay Area resident ... go Niners!
I'll have a Scotch straight up with Exit0. We'll recover tomorrow with our tea!
(Oh, and the re-regs get nailed whenever they leave FR - Bill O Rites 13 got banned yet again this week!)
Alaska Girl - I love all sports but the Super Bowl is really about everything - the game, the commercials, the half-time - all of it. And, yes, 26 students from Sandy Hook will be singing America the Beautiful (I believe) prior to the national anthem. The NFL flew them there but, of course, the far right sees it as using the children to drag out the shooting coverage.
Never mind that the NFL has supported the school since the shooting. They held a moment of silence before each game the week after the shootings. The wore the names of the victims on their uniforms and some of the players did things in their personal time to support the school. It's a nice way to remember those who died and to bring some fun to the 26 who will get to sing.
As for baseball, still waiting for my Cubbies to come alive - while I still am! (Even though I'm not from Chicago I do love the Cubs!)
Thanks for clarifying the changes. Only ever posted on Newsvine once or twice & then suddenly said I had to sign up for it. Not a big deal, just pop over there to check out the articles.
Have come to enjoy the Fri. afternoon/evening drink recipes! Read them to the spouse & he just shakes his head! Guess he wonders who I'm hanging out with.
Agree with Johntho-go Lions. Hard to root for the Ravens when we live in Browns country. Shall watch for the commercials.
The Empty Chair Returns …
The famous, or is it infamous Clint Eastwood chair from the RNC convention now sits in the office of RNC Chairman Rince Priebus.
How fitting to put that chair in his office. With enormous odds on the side of Republican, Priebus failed to win the Whitehouse, failed to win the Senate, lost seats in the House and if it weren’t for gerrymandering in states that elected Republicans to Governorships and state legislatures it is likely he would have turned the House over to Democrats.
And his punishment for his total failure at winning anything, he gets reelected for another two year term heading the RNC. If his leadership in the next two years is anything like the last two, Democrats, with huge odds against them in 2014, will once again hold the Senate with Dems having to defend 21 of 35 seats and have an even better chance of recapturing the House … Dems only need 18 seats.
It's strange isn't it Dennis, Michael Steele delivered big gains for them and was pushed out supposedly because he spent to much cash, Priebus blew through a mountain of cash and lost at every level.
Dennis instead of enshrining that empty chair maybe they ought to Mount the Empty Head that commissioned it
Hard to imagine there wasn't a republican who was willing to run for the job; the person gets national recognition, TV time, etc. Maybe the tea-crazy has them all spooked and Priebus won by forfeit.
IR- they need a (T)potty-chair to enshrine in their honor and image.
(and what's with all the fancy drink orders at the DDI? Seems plain old Bud's bout as good it gets)
You left wingers just keep saying that the Democrats will retain the Senate and retake the House in 2014. That is a long way off and the Party that has the White House usually looses seats during a mid term election. I will admit the Republicans blew the Senate in 2012 but they did retain the House. Further it was apparent Obama didn't have any coat tails nor will Obama be a factor in 2014.
Hey Forrest saw this morning where your in Puerto Rico without any supervision.Don't you start any scandals or nothing to make the Headlines now you hear. Always glad to see you doing well I'm sure that Mrs Grump is missing you
sfcret- 'nor will Obama be a factor in 2014." Keep dreaming. Remember - you were SURE Romney would win in 2012!
Hey Buzz you better check in over at the Tree House this weekend. As 'Ol Sherlock said there's a game afoot
They retained the House because they CHEATED! You do realize, sfcret, that House Dems received over a million more votes than their Republican counterparts? Yes, it is true, but because of the severe gerrymandering(cheating)that the Repubs did, they retained most of their positions. Gosh, you and others like you must be so proud to be the Cheater Party! Bunch of under handed bastards!
Double Whisky!
please.
made some stew for my dog Jack and put into separate bowls ... one marked 49 and the other Raven ... he woofed down both.
AlaskaGirl - Get the cold weather in Alaska must be getting to you. Gerrymandering has been used by both parties. You just can't accept the fact the people like a divided Government, they saw what happened when Obama and both Houses for two years. You left wingers are to quick to yell CHEATERS when you loose. Go back and check when the party in the White House won anything during the mid-term election.
Oh, BTW, are we going to hear the left crying about voter ID again? You have just under to years to get that state ID in order to vote.
Okay, took me a few minutes to decipher your comments; you should really consider a remedial English 101 class. Yes, gerrymandering has been used by both parties, but not to this degree and not with such blatant abuse of the system.
No, no need for crying about the other problem your party seems to have and that would be trying to rig the voting process. Nope, we will do what we did this last election and that is to make sure we keep the Cheater Party in check. Somebody's gotta keep the lunatic fringe at bay. It's just always gotta be the Democrats looking out for everyone else while the RWNJ's go off half cocked......as usual.
Hey, you have an awesome weekend, though, k?
Hey IR, yeah I'm down here alone, but I am here to work, so
hopefully you won't see any headlines, Ha unless I drive back into San Juan
tomorrow night and bust a Casino. I should only be here about two weeks, but I
will have to come back later in the year for about two months. I also have
about a month long project coming up in the Dominican Republic, I really need
to learn some Spanish, and these folks really need to learn how to drive. It's
interesting seeing a lot of the US and other countries as well, but at the same
time it’s tough being away so much. It's manageable because I never have to be
gone more than two weeks at a time without at least flying home for a long
weekend, and whenever I am in between trips my home is my office, so that is
nice. It's basically supposed to be two weeks out and two weeks home but not
all projects fit into that time frame, but at the end of year it will just
about balance out, 50% travel on site work, and 50% home office work.
Hey Forrest,
Sound like a good deal, got any openings? Is sounds perfect for my husband, especially the two months away from home. ;)
What a difference a year makes, you take care.
HI Forrest! Have a good trip and stay safe.
thetotas, Have a good weekend and hug the critters for me!
Just heard that Barney the dog died, he a long time resident of the White House. Now, I was NO fan of George Bush, but he did love his dog, and you can't dislike him for that. I am sure that this is a difficult night for the Bush family, my sympathy to them. It is never easy to lose a beloved friend like Barney
Thank you all for the well wishes, I wish the best for all of you as well. Yes a little over a year and so much has happened, I beat cancer, I went to Washington DC to do some contract work for my Unions International office, I was offered my ultimate dream job to be on the staff there but declined because I would have had to move to the DC area, and neither Mrs. Grump or myself was interested in moving away from our family. I closed up my small consulting business because of Mrs. Grumps mothers terminal cancer so I would not have to travel and leave her and my kids alone to deal with that. I took a local job that I hated because it is hard to be an Indian when you are used to being the Chief (no offense to native Americans it is just a manner of expression) and after My mother in law passed I quite that job and took this job and now travel even more. It seems for every hill you must climb there is a downhill slide just on the other side, I never thought I would see such change at this age. I will tell you one thing people are not used to a supervisor with such a favorable attitude toward the unionized workforce when there is one (which is a shame), and my acknowledgement of their skill and worth does not go unrewarded. The same guys that constantly bitch about the unions and their work rules or their pay scale, don't seem to understand how my projects come in on time and under budget. I just manage and supervise the work, I depend on people to do the work, you get better results when you do not begrudge or belittle your workforce, all working people deserve respect, if you treat people like you value them, you will get value back from them.
newday - out pets are always part of the family - they just dress a little funny. And, it's always difficult to say goodbye to them.
NDDR . . .
A friend gave me this inscripted on a rock for my last pup that passed along ...
"Dogs leave paw prints on our hearts."
Doesn't matter our beliefs .... right or left or innies or outties ... our dogs love us for who we are.
When I said there is a downhill slide after you climb a hill I meant that in a good way, it's the reward for climbing your hill. Barney the dog will be OK because as I understand it all dogs go to heaven.
Forrest,
Good to know you are doing fine in 2013.
And you are a dream manager. You are so right.Treat people with respect, acknowledge their talents and the work get done.
When you go to the Dominican Republic, take your wife for a little R& R. Where will you be? I love that country.
Lovely resorts around Punta Cana. Sit under a palapa with a drink in your hand and your feet in the sand listening to the waves break on the beach.
Forest - yes, all dogs go to heaven and whatever was ailing them disappears as they are transformed into puppies that can run, jump and chase rabbits!
Northstar - I stayed at Melia Carib Tropical in Punta Cana. Absolutely gorgeous!
Seeking Sanity,
We stayed at Dreams. it got us hooked on Dreams and Secrets resorts.
What I like about Dominican is that no building can be taller that the palm trees at the resort areas. Not like Cancun etc. And the whole island is made up of coral, and I Went to Santo Domingo and toured the house of Christopher Columbus son's house and the old Spanish part of town. took a day tour by boat from Samana to where the Atlantic meets the Caribbean Sea. We had a lobster lunch and had a champagne toast in waist high blue water on an sand bar with starfish in the clear bright blue water.
Sorry to go on about my trip, but we just had 2 inches of snow and it will be below zero tonight... wish I was in the DR.
Northstar - you did a LOT more than me. I just went for R&R and really just relaxed the whole time. When I go back I'll make sure I do the tour, etc. Sounds fantastic! I absolutely loved the airport - so totally tropical!
I think the high tonight is around 15 - it was lower last night and with the wind is just brutal!!!!
Mark, Domenico, Chuck and the rest of the First Read Team:
Thanks for the many years of providing a zone to voice opinions and thoughts on the various political subjects reported by you. The DDI was always a fun Friday wrap up to the end of a virtual week and it couldn’t have happened without you as hosts.
We understand from the Newsvine handlers, Sheriff Tyler and Deputy Sally, changes are underway for both Newsvine and First Read comments. Alas, the time has come to follow the tactics of Fox News Nation and stamp out the voice of the threads, or as we libs like to call it, the virtual bar. While we may never understand why, the decision has been made and must be honored. Being one that tends to lean towards privacy between friends, but openness between acquaintances, the transparency option being offered is simply one that leaves this poster feeling a bit too naked.
While many posters may jump ship and leave Newsvine and First Read, I suspect many of us will continue to leaf through the comments for a period of time, and on occasion leave a post or two. One simply cannot know the consequence of shutting down the local hangout.
To my fellow posters, good luck, cheers, and the best to you and yours. As accounts and groups are deleted to maintain privacy, I hope our paths will continue to cross. In honor of the imminent demise of the DDI, I offer the following toasts.
I drink Martinis.
Two at the very most.
Three I'm under the table.
Four I'm under the host
---Dorothy Parker
Everybody has to believe in something, I believe I'll have another drink.
---W.C. Fields
Redev I hear what your putting down. Good friends are hard to find and your one of the best. Me If this turns out to be my last rodeo I prefer to go out like 'Ol Crash. "When you speak of me. Speak Well"
Mark, Domenico, Chuck: I plan to keep on posting here at FR....provided that on Feb 7th, the new NV rules don't leave me on the outside wondering how to get in.
Like my father would always tell me, If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Super Bowl Prediction...
Ravens 24 - 49ers 21
I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that Harbaugh's team is gonna win.....
...and, by the way, feel free to laugh at anyone who gives you the crazy talk about "The Day After The Super Bowl Should Be A National Holiday".
Puh-leeze!!!
Either move it to a Saturday or learn some self-control when it comes to the pizza, wings and beer. If you overdo it and call in "sick" on Monday that's a "You" problem and not a "Me" problem.
Cheater! You got Marty McFly's sports almanac, didn't you?
Final score 49ERS 27, RAVENS 17.
JoAnne . . .
I think your limb's a pretty safe one!
sfrect,
I like your score a lot better!
JoAnne--you are not alone! I see similar - and hear - from national reporters, politicians, "stars", newspapers, on a daily basis. Granted no money in it for me, but I had to let go a bit as it was makin' me crazeee. My wife, not a native English speaker, does better than many who are.
"My wife, not a native English speaker, does better than many who are."
I wouldn't doubt that for a minute, opajack!
This is the new normal and as President Clinton (who ran a GREAT economy) said: No one could have fixed this mess.
We did not vote for the President to be able to get along with the Republicans. This recovery is slowed only due to the Republicans defeating every measure the President tries to pass. If only one of his intitiatives gets implemented, we will see some real growth.
Unemployment running at 10% is also something we must learn to accept. After the Wall Street-caused crisis of 2008, I for one am happy to see the 2% punished for their part in this. And yes, EVEN IF lower taxes for the rich actually helped the economy, that course of action is neither just nor fair. It is far better to have economic equality than general prosperity bought at the price of continued cla
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Once again we have a month of slight increase in employment and the stock market is up AGAIN. Housing is up. Companies are hiring again, albeit slowly. It took a few years to get into this mess and it won't end over night. As long as we continue to make progress we are eventually going to get it done. We have to pay for what Congress already spent and we need to make sure they don't spend more on things like bridges to nowhere and so forth until we can afford it again (if we ever could). People realize that cuts alone aren't going to solve the problem nor are revenue increases alone going to solve the problem but a combination will be required.
Adler - I think it's going to take at least another 10 years to get through this mess. It was horrible - throughout the world and the damage won't be repaired in short time.
"unemployment running at 10% is something we must learn to accept"
ha ha the brilliance of low expectations!
All together now, Happy days are here again..........
justaplumber ...
I'm pretty sure you have something stopped up that is coagulating in your brain ... you should have that checked.
Whoops! wait ... plumbers never fix their own pipes. You're going to be "stopped" up for awhile.
Can't get on up above but in honor of Hillary Clinton I'd like to request Helen Reddy's "I Am Woman".
I understand Newsvine wanting to make changes and figure there is a profit motive involved but just hope that we are still able to share our views here.
Thanks to Mark, Domenico and FR crew for giving us this forum and for your hard work. I thought things would be boring after the election but our friends in Congress are like the gift that keeps on giving.
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights. I, myself believe in the Second Amendment. But I also believe in all of the Constitution of the United States of America for what stands for. We the People, they are not words but away of life and of a family of America. One person looking out for the next person and so on. We the America family.
When the Second Amendment was first writing into law the United States was young. America's total population was around 1.5 million at the time. The state of the art firearms at that time were single-shot flintlock muskets with bayonet that had to be manually loaded through the muzzle of the barrel. While the procedure for loading a muzzle-loading weapon was virtually the same whether it was a musket gun or a musket rifle.
16 Easy Steps on How to Load and Fire Flintlock Musket Rifle.
1-Hold the musket with the muzzle pointing up.
2- pour the black powder from the gunpowder hone into a measure that held a the pre-determined amount of powder. A black powder hone was generally created from cow or buffalo horn.
3- then pour the pre-determined amount of powder down the barrel of the musket.
4- place a round cartridge paper on top of the barrel opening. (called the "wadding")
5- place musket lead ball on top the wadding.
6- tap both wadding and musket lead ball in the very front of the barrel.
7- look to make shore that the musket lead ball is fully wrapped by the wadding and not touching the inside of the barrel. This can cause the musket to misfire in your face.
8-Remove the ramrod from its storage pipe beneath the barrel then use the ramrod to pack the wadding and musket lead ball down the barrel until it rested on the top of the black powder charge.
9- make sure you take out the ramrod and put the ramrod back in the storage pipe there it belongs.
10- Raise the musket to a firing position.
11- then pulled the hammer back to half-cock, and poured a small amount of black powder from the black powder hone into the priming pan.
12- then closed the frizzen so that the priming black powder was trapped. The musket was now ready to be fired its single shot.
13- bracing the butt against the shoulder.
14-Pull back the hammer.
15- Aim and fire.
16- repeat the process.
Its been 221 years ago when the second amendment was writing into law. rifles and guns have came along ways from the flintlock musket that can kill up to three people a minute. Now rifles and guns can kill up to three hundred a minute. Yes things have changed in America today, along with the population over 300 million and growing everyday.
No one should have Military weapons with large capacity magazines. They are not big boy toys! They were made for killing people only! Now they are used to kill America's children.
OK I will be nuts! we can look at it this way. the second amendment was writing in 1791 right? The right of the people to bear arms, so it should be the state of the art rifle and gun of 1791.
Odd that you would post that? Awhile back YOU posted "The Constitution of the United States is the Supreme law of the United States"
Change your mind?
Get real.
GetReal: As a fellow supporter of The Constitution, keep the faith. Also note the state of the US Army at the time. A well regulated militia was required until an army could be raised. Those days are long pasted.
you have the right of a handgun and a hunting rifle, but no one should have the rights of a miliary weapons. miliary weapons are for war. war is for killing people. miliary weapons are not toys!
Yes.
You left wing anti-gun nuts just don't get it. The 2d Amendment has nothing to do with one's right to hunt. FYI, it is illegal to own military weapons without a special permit from the Federal Government. Only semi-automatic weapons can be purchased by the public, these include pistols, & shotguns. An semi-automatic rifle that looks like a military rifle is no more deadly than a semi-automatic rifle than does not look like a military rifle.
sfcret I'm just curious but if Military style weapons are no more dangerous than any other(a point that I agree with in principal if not actuality BTW) then why do so many Yahoo's choose them to use for nefarious purposes. I mean your basic Militia Yahoo will pass up a 600.00 dollar semi-auto Remington for a 2000.00 dollar Bushmaster any day of the week and twice on Sunday. And Don't feed me none of these its sexy lines either. That style of rifle is designed to be what it is. A more versatile platform for putting out more Firepower more rapidly. And you know that.
sfcret - next time children are mowed down with an assault rifle YOU can tell the parents, friends and family that they JUST DON'T GET IT!
The 2nd amendment was for a time we didn't have the military we have today. If someone needs more than a handgun or a hunting rifle, we need that person to have extraordinary reasons and be able to prove it. Assault weapons are to kill as many people as possible and no one should have those at home.
IR Va - You would have to ask someone that buys the military look alike weapons. However, the military style look alike is not actually the weapon of choice for most murders. I believe if you check handguns kill more people than the semi-automatic weapons you mention. It's not the weapon that is dangerous but the person using it.
SeekingSanity - It is apparent that you do not know the difference between a military assault rifle (can fire semi or automatic) and a rifle with some features of a military assault rifle which can only fire semi-automatic. Just because you and your ilk don't like the weapons and you follow the liberals talking points about gun control doesn't make you right. The Bushmaster used in Conn. IS NOT a military assault rifle, it was legally purchased by the shooters mother who also taught him how to shoot it. If anyone is at fault is was the MOTHER, not the weapon, not the manufacturer and not the person that sold the Mother the weapon. There is nothing in the Constitution or anywhere else that says you HAVE to buy a weapon, it is your choice, but quit trying to take away other peoples rights.
sfcret - it is apparent you know nothing about anything - especially about what I KNOW. The Bushmaster is an assault weapon - I never said it was a MILITARY assault weapon. It has nothing to do with whether is was bought by the mother or not. It should NOT have been sold and there is nothing to say anyone should buy it.
Former Supreme Court Justice Stevens said in an article I've posted several times, there is nothing in the 2nd amendment that allows for assault weapons and there is no reason they should be allowed, nor should high capacity magazines.
I am NOT trying to take other people's rights. I have no problem with anyone owning a handgun or hunting rifle - provided they have a background check done; get training; have the gun registered.
YOU have no right to take away anyone's rights by allowing assault weapons and high capacity magazines to be sold. They are NO ONE'S right to own. But, you're so damned eager to kill someone you just can't stand the thought you might not ever be able to. You and people like you who need these weapons are SICK!
Ah yes sfcret being a little bit disingenuous. Of course handguns are the choice for more murders. They are also the weapon of choice for more suicides and several other crimes of convenience. Assault style weapons (and Bushmaster is one of them as you well know) are the overwhelmingly weapon of choice for Mass Shooters in a some what attempt in their fevered mind duplicate a military assault. They are also the weapon of choice for your basic half crazed The Government is doing me wrong crowd. Apples and oranges. You would have us do nothing because you can't do it all at once. I say lets do something about the obvious things that we can and work on the rest of it as we go along.
IR Va - Maybe you should look up the definition of "assault rifle" and where that term originated and then get back to me, since you appear to be stuck with the liberal interpretation. There are some things state governments can do without banning certain weapons. Just like in the Federal 1994 ban, people just modified the rifle (removed bayonet attachment, shortened pistol grip, removed flash suppressors, etc) they will just do the same thing again. Now you say lets do something about the obvious things and work on the rest, just what is it you would do? BTW, google the following "is the bushmaster rifle an assault weapon". Also when you refer to "Bushmaster" you do know that is the name of the company and not the weapon itself. You have not given me anything of substance except YOUR OPINION, which you are entitled to.
I will ask you one final question: Why not let each individual state decide their own policies on gun control, why should people in some states like Wyoming, Idaho, the Dakotas be held to the same rules as those in CA, NY, Ill, & Conn for example? I biggest problem with any Federal gun control, above what is already the law, is the governments "One size fits all".
SeekingSanity - When you post sentences like this one: But, you're so damned eager to kill someone you just can't stand the thought you might not ever be able to. You and people like you who need these weapons are SICK! You are only showing your stupidity. You don't know the first thing about me or what I have done or want to do. Quit spouting the left wing talking points and think for yourself. BTW, I hope you and IR, Va., enjoy the SUPER BOWL.
49ers 27, Ravens 17.
The reason we are looking at "one size fits all" is that each state having its own rules is creating the problem Can't buy a gun in one state, head to another, or go to a gun show, or buy it on line.
sfcret: why don't you quit treating everyone who does not believe as you do as though they are an enemy to be tromped on. Is there any real reason to be so angry all the time?
Sargent Retired Why don't we just quit sugar coating things. You received the same training that I did so you are well aware of what constitutes a Assault Type of Rifle and what the capabilities of it are. And no I'm not stuck on the "liberal" definition. I'm stuck on trying to come up with a definition that we all can live with. Instead of using your superior knowledge to help our Inexperienced Friends to clarify the situation you are bound and determined to use it to deflect and obscure. SGT. at the end of the day something is going to be done. 85% are demanding it so contrary to your belief something is going to happen. Now me personally I would rather use My knowledge to ensure that something that I can live with happens. You on the other hand seem to be determined that only something to bitch about happens. You Know folks that continually find fault are rarely disappointed and seldom happy. Seems a piss poor way to go thru life to me
Newday - The only reason you and the other liberals want a "one size fits all" is because you think the Federal Government is the answer to everything, you and your ilk won't be happen until the Federal Government controls ALL ASPECTS of our lives. The 1994 gun control act did not work and neither will a new weapons ban work, even VP Biden says so.
BTW, I am not against background checks, I believe no one should sell any type of weapon to a non-resident of the state in which one is trying to purchase a firearm, and I am for proof of a certified weapons training class prior to purchase and a waiting period of at least 15 days. FYI, it is ILLEGAL to sell a firearm on the internet or through the mail. In CA you need a background check to purchase a weapon at a gun show from a licensed dealer.
IR Va - Most of the weapons I used and trained with in the military were capable from firing automatic. (except for the M1 rifle that was still the basic weapon when I enlisted). I asked you to check the definition of Assault Weapon, but it is apparent that you only want to use the definition bantered about by the left.
FYI, I have taught firearm safety classes and self defense classes to those interested in the proper use of firearms for self protection, hunting and target shooting. As mentioned above in 11.11, there are several things I think should be done, but banning semi-automatic rifles isn't one of them.
Now instead of the President flying around the country (today in Minnesota) to push his gun control agenda, which isn't going t pass, I would rather see him use his time to work on the economy, jobs, and reducing the deficit.
Oh, BTW, I don't own any of the so called weapons that are being talked about. I have a Winchester 30-30 purchased in 1954, a 12 gauge shotgun and a 9mm pistol.
IR Va - One of the better articles on weapons that you might be interested in when talking about defining assault weapons: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/347871/a-gun-glossary-whats-an-assault-weapon-anyway
How about a topic: "Hypocracy In The News"
Here is some info about gun-banner Dianne:
Diane Feinstein should read this actual story from someone who knew the act of arming oneself was crucial to their sense of safety and protection...
"Less than twenty years ago I was the target of a terrorist group. It was the New World Liberation Front. They blew up power stations and put a bomb at my home when my husband was dying of cancer. And the bomb didn't detonate. [...] I was very lucky. But, I thought of what might have happened. Later the same group shot out all the windows of my home. [...] And,[b]I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me."[b]
That someone was none other than Dianne Feinstein herself (circa 1995). Fact!!!!!
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No one is going to take her or your pistol away or prevent you from buying one. You should have to submit to a background check when you buy it.
Exito - the old "the government is going to take all your guns" is beyond old and tiring. It shows a total lack of intelligence of the poster.
Here we go again the campaigner goes campaigning again this time to sell his stupid gun law. Why does he not stay in Washington and start acting like a president? The answer is: he does not know!!!! Spending our money on his big yet and other expenses that go along withy this stupid trip. He is the worst president and he will slowly destroy this country. He is after something big, look at the parties he belonged to in his past. You all will find out.