So you've never heard of GW Bush?

There's a thing called Google, check it out.

Bush took a good situation...Make it the biggest disaster in your lifetime.

Obama took the worst disaster in your lifetime and made it better.

Is the DOW up again today?

7000 points and $trillions of wealth created since Jan 21st 2009.

Common Sense, a couple of points: Bush wasn't a good president. Do you think all conservatives like him? You're wrong! Wwe don't. The Dow is up? Great, but two years ago when it was down Obama said the Dow wasn't a measure of economic success or failure. HAs that changed because it's up today? Bush took a good situation? So to you the terrorist attack on 9/11 was good? That was the catalyst for two wars. Obama hasn't taken the worst disaster in my life and made it better; he's made the country, in the long run, worse.

2 years ago the Dow was up significantly from 2009.

And it is a measure of economic success.

9/11 happened on his watch.

Bush took a budget surplus and left a $1,4 trillion deficit.....Which has steadily been decreased.

Sorry if your life is bad, EVERY single economic indicator has gotten better under Obama.

LOL!!!!! Really. The defecit is HUGE under obamas watch. Clintons surplus came from social security. The dow always goes up when the interest rates are held artificially low. Google that.

Common Sense

Surely you jest!!!!!!!

ARE YOU ON STRONG MEDS?????

What is your understanding of the current deficit (From Obama!!!) TRILLIONS (PLURAL)Forget Bush ( I have) And I didn't vote for him either!! Bush is gone!!! You need to catch up!!

Common Sense, I pointed out what he said about the Dow. I'm thrilled with it; when Obama took office and the Dow plunged I upped my 401k to within a couple hundred dollars of the over 50 'catch-up' limit ($22k/yr) so I'm doing great. And I'm not blaming the Dow plunging on him but let's discuss some of your points. Yes 9/11 occurred during his watch, nine months into it. The planning and training took place under Clinton's watch and that's a known fact. The housing crisis goes back as far as Carter and every president in between. The banks crisis goes back to the 80's and 90's. The deficit hasn't decreased, it has gone up. It depends on who's figures you're using. The economy isn't the only problem I have with Obama's policies, I'm worried about his "fundamentally changing the country". From what I see he's trying to change into a one party quasi-socialist dictatorship.

ricardo

First off people that have to type in CAPS usually have nothing to say.

You know the angry child that has to yell because he's an idiot and can't communicate with his fellow humans without yelling.

Soaz

The deficit has gone down under Obama....Look it up and get educated.

Common:

The government's fiscal 2012 has now come to a close and the score is in. The budget deficit for 2012 was $1.1 trillion, the fourth year of trillion-dollar deficits under President Obama.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Friday that the $1.1 trillion shortfall, based on Treasury statements, was about $200 billion less than in fiscal 2011. But part of this difference is due to a timing shift that put some final payments in 2011 because Oct. 1, 2011 fell on a weekend.

Without the assistance from the calendar, the deficit in 2012 would have been $30 billion larger than reported.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/260537-cbo-deficit-was-11-trillion-in-2012#ixzz2JPFPBE00
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common sense..

You are entitled to interpret "CAPS" in any mode you so desire. I utilize them for emphasis and nothing more. So, no Big Deal to me. And, by the way, I have plenty to say but I am certain it would not have much definition for you. I have reviewed many of your comments and quite frankly, I find no "Real Pearls of Wisdom" (Caps) ....... You are confused in relation to your understanding of the Debt Crisis, we face, as a result of Mr. Obama's Presidency. Accounting principles tell the story! I would love to know your age! I will bet you are in your 30's (or younger)........In any event, I don't believe you have seen enough moons to fully comprehend many of the dangerous ideas in the mind of Mr. Obama.....I am "over the Hill" and it really doesn't concern me much anymore. My concern is for my Adult Children and my Grandaughter. My one wish is that I can be around long enough to find that you and people, like you, are going to be very frustrated, at the end of Mr. Obamas term with the Great Love Affair you have for him. I survived Colon Cancer and a lot of chemotherapy, for the last 14 years. And I am certain I can endure the last few years of Mr. Obama...........Even though his presidency causes Great Pain for me!

read my post moron. Its not about the issues. Never was

Oh we all know what you are missing.

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No ding bat. The point is each and every single decision President Obama makes will be one that you hate and jump all over him for even if you were in favor of it before he says it.

get it?

bad black muslim guy who golfs in our whitehouse.

Shoe fits

Don't forget he shoots skeet all the time as well!

The point is each and every single decision President Obama makes will be one that you hate and jump all over him for even if you were in favor of it before he says it.

Not true. Its just that almost every one of his decisions has been wrong. I have no problem with a Black (or half Black) President. I wouldn't even have a problem with a Muslim President (notice I didn't say he is) because there is separation of church and state, so who cares what religeon/non religeon the pres is. Again, everything he's done, or not done, has been wrong.

Mitt would disagree with you.

Even Flip Flopney said the auto bailout was a success.

Not that I'll assume you agree with Flip.

What specifically? Obamacare? OKing the plan to kill Osama Bin Laden? Withdrawing from Iraq And staging the Afghan withdrawal? The stimulus package? Extending unemployment and food stamp benefits? Extending the Bush tax cuts and then making them permenant on incomes less than $450K? Helping to create a business environment that has the DOW average now approaching an all time high?

What is your complaint...other than a debt for which no one has sent you a bill and unemployment, which ideally would be 3-4% lower?

Would McCain have inherited the same $1.4 trillion deficit?

Yes.

Wonder how he would have magically made it disappear?

Since he voted for every single spending increase while Bush was pres.

Every single economist not on the fox news payroll said the stimulus was a good idea.

Stock market is a leading indicator of economic health.

Osama is dead, maybe you like the dude and wish he were still alive.

Taxes are a part of life, sorry if you think the freedom you enjoy from the most powerful military on east is free.....It's not.

Game over.

You should pay closer attention. Obamacare? Jury's still out. It certainly adds customers to the insurance company rolls by mandating insurance coverage. The overall bet is that the savings provided by the larger mandated "pool," plus fines for non-participation, off-set the subsidies for those unable to purchase insurance on their own.

Bin Laden - the Special Ops General responsible for the mission has said the President was briefed and told there were two choices...a drone or aircraft attack, which would not be as certain as the second choice of a more risky ground attack, by helicopters and that Obama made the latter call.

Liberal Americans love jobs and believe we have a moral obligation to give sustenance support to those searching for jobs. Personally, I'd just hire them and put them to work doing private sector work and paying for them by printing more money. Wouldn't have to do that for too long, because the private sector would jump back into the game screaming for the work themselves.

Total withdrawal from Iraq was not "pre-written." Numerous Republicans (particularly neo-cons) wanted a sizable force to remain, in spite of the fact that the Iraqis insisted that those remaining come under Iraqi law, instead of the UCMJ.

The stimulus program did work. It created some 1 to 3 million jobs depending on who is counting. The stock market is back and people are rushing from bonds to equities, which should fuel expansion once demand returns. Average recovery time from a systemic financial failure is roughly 5 years and we're beating the average.

When? In 2008 or 2012? In 2008, the economy was in recession. In 2012, it was the only deal he could get because of Congressional Republicans. Or, would you have preferred an Executive Order? I suppose you can classify taxes as socialism...but you don't seriously think the country would have grown as powerful as it has since 1913, without them, do you?

All investing is speculation to some degree. It's called capitalism...you should read a book on it. Persistant low interest rates have led to early bond recalls on the higher rates, for refinancing. In that process, investment is flowing to stocks, whose earnings are up, despite falling revenue, reflecting a decrease in demand. As demand slowly recovers with a gradual paydown of past personal indebtedness (or write-offs for losses), revenue will increase as well, although probably not to past levels, due to global economics and domestic demographics. That lack of demand is what is tempering inflation.

Obamacare is GOING TO BE a a huge tax...ylou people keep telling us how things are "going to happen," but never do. Don't you get embarrassed?

Did you actually read the part about the General's testimony? Obama had a choice...no go; go with an air strike; go with the Special Opns people. HE made the decision. Get it?

Liberals like union jobs? True. Why not? Organized labor helped build middle class America. The fall in wages and benefits tracks exactly with the loss of union membership in this country. Union jobs have better wages and benefits. Are you against that?

An important part of the withdrawal process was arriving at a "Status of Forces Agreement" between the U.S. and Iraq. We wanted a larger residual force to remain (approximately 8,000), but withdrew virtually everyone because of the Iraqi law issue. Read the paragraph again slowly.

All union jobs? Doubt it. It included non-unionized public service jobs and automotive supplier jobs, as well as others, which were not unionized. But, if it included union jobs, so what?

The median household wage is something like $50K/yr. $250K per year is 5x that. How's your math?

You would do better to read more and post less.

Thats because those economists believe in the Keynesian economics which is a bad idea.

You are the one setting up the phony comparison of someone making $250K per year as being equal to a someone worth $1.0 billion, not me.

And, if you think of all union jobs as "unskilled labor," you really don't know much about the American workforce.

Further, if you don't think all of those non-union jobs at the Mercedes and BMW plants in the South aren't supporting Union benefits, comparable to the UAW, for German workers in Stuttgart and Munich, then you don't understand how the global economy works.

Name a country with a strong middle class work force that doesn't recognize the right to collective bargaining.

You are neither answering my questions or providing any good conservative arguments countering my points.

Instead you play a game of Limbaugh Logic...juggling the time line. The peak of union membership (roughly 30% of the work force) was a generation ago, at approximately the same time of the historical peak for widespread income distribution and the peak of middle class incomes. They have been declining since then...that's why they are called "a peak."

No one on the left is claiming that the middle class today is as successful as it was at its peak. Quite the opposite.

On the contrary, I am willing to admit to a host of additional economic factors, including a more moderate Republican Party. Which ones do you suggest? And, if there are others, why are you unwilling to accept collective bargaining as one?

Read a history of labor in America. People died fighting for the right to organize. And, that right is now part of the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights.

Are they perfect? No. But, I am of the opinion that were it not for a combination of gains in collective bargaining and the FDR policies of the thirties, not only would there not be a capitalist-democratic society in the U.S. today, we might well be communists as the resulkt of a populist revolution. Most of the West began giving way to 'social democracy" with the Revolution of 1848, and the Paris Commune. WW I was another turning point, followed by "the last straw" of the Great Depression.

It was the partnership of management and labor in the post WW II period that "capitalized" on our national strength and created the middle class, which began its slide with technology and global recovery, coupled with a laissez-faire capitalist approach here, that began with Reagan, but didn't really hit the economy until Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II.

Crushed local economies? What's crushed local economies has been a move toward big box stores composed largely of lowly paid non-union employees and the purchase of low cost consumer products from abroad.

Illegals already pay taxes.

Most employers have to pay taxes for them. They can't collect benefits because they'd get caught.

Representatively they commit less crimes because they don't want to get caught and sent home.

And my landscaping just was completed and I can go to Hawaii with the money I saved.

Or Mexico.

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I know lots of small business owners that have illegals.

There was a 60 minutes piece, Time and Newsweek articles on the subject.

If you think illegals just freeload then you aren't very educated.

Well....You've already made that sad fact obvious.

True, on paying taxes through payroll deductions, IF they are being carried as employees. I would suspect most are in the underground economy of small businesses and are essentially "invisble people."

Postering? Not if it is accompanied by an effective "employee verification program." Gives them the possibility of a higher wage and an eventual vote.

Who? Who are the liberals against verification?

So uncommon sense you believe it is ok to exploit illegal immigrants?

Yeah...well maybe...without an alternative path to citizenship, I can understand that from a liberal viewpoint, its usage would only result in deportation. But this proposal offers the alternative path to citizenship. So, I doubt "liberals" will be the ones opposed to its use.

If the Senate proposal becomes law, it will be the legal path to immigration for many. Anchor baby legislation goes to the U.S. Constitution...the 14th Amendment (1868). Probably could have been avoided if there hadn't been a Civil War.

I suggest you try and get over it.

I meant the Civil War...not the Amendment.

Maybe we can mail them back.

The USPS needs some business.

And for congress to get out of their way.

They would screw that up.

My mail works great.

I love the mail service, drop a letter in the mail for 45 cents and it goes anywhere in the country I want.

Who doesn't like that?

If congress could let them operate without regulations they would operate profitably like they have for 200 years.

But liberals love regulations. They haven't been doing too hot lately.

WOW

That's paranoid and devoid of intelligence on so many levels........

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Not one single point is factually correct.

Why stop there, claim Obama is responsible for hurricane sandy, global warming and the Jersey Shore show while you're making garbage up.

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Obama runs up the national debt?

Man are Republicans still this uninformed.

The "Obama running up the debt" falicy has been debunked long ago.

Way to be on top of things.

Facts please.

lucky

Don't you have to go on an illegal drug run for Rush right about now?

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Common sense.

Good God!!! Talk about "nothing much to say" <lol> Certainly nothing that makes sense!

Its a problem but President Obama didnt invent welfare although youd swear he did from listening to Right Wing Bags.

Probably less. Right now those who employ them at "poverty wage levels" are basically screwing the average tax payer, who is paying for the social services. Pay them more and move them off social services.

Illegal immigrants are breaking the great state of CA. CA had everything going for it, good people, great agriculture, great technology, land, sea, air space, climate, beautiful women(yes had to throw that in there).....

Now look at it. The cities are going bankrupt, wealth is isolated into small pockets of communities, families are leaving like the exodus, taxes are driving people out, inner city gang violence is the worst in the country, gross mismanagement of pension accounts, debt. Why? LIBERALS! That's why. How can a country that was setup for absolute success be doing so poorly in the cities. Anyone have any idea how many NEW laws CA politicians pput on the books last year? IT'S CRAAAAZY!

Liberalism is weak and it allows social injustices to be pertetuated under some kind of guise of compassion. It's so backwards. CA consumes over 33% of all the fed welfare among all states collectively, yet also harbors the largest population of illegal immigrants.

This is what elitist liberal politicians do. IL is the EXACT same way. IL has the lowest credit rating of all the states, and Chicago is a murder capitol.

Don't blame it all on "liberal compassion." Illegal immigrants became the "underclass of California." Where would its agricultural exports be without them? Who cleans the houses of the wealthy? Who washes dishes in a restaurant of cleans the hotel rooms? A lot of that wealth was made on the backs of the illegals. And, who pays for the social services? The taxpayers.

Make them citizens and pay them accordingly. Yes, some jobs will be lost. But, in most cases, the difference will come out of profits. Too bad...only one Mercedes, instead of three. Pool cleaning every other week.

Johnny here is how you spell "you'd".

Truth is more illegals got deported under this Presidents 4 yrs than Bushes 8 yrs so what exactly have Republicans in office done to regulate this problem?

Answer- NADA dam thing

Illegal border crossings are at a 40 year low. Partially due to increased resources on the border; partially due to the poor economy. NOW is the time for a comprehensive Immigration Bill.

lucky

You should leave this country as soon as possible.

Chicken Little AKA lucky says the sky is falling!!!

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Go lucky....Run as fast as you can.

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Johnny this is how you spell "damn".

common sense

Time for you "to have your milk and cookies" and go to bed!

And you know crack whores for sure.

Probably what you know best

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If there is a "Crack Whore" Secretary I'd nominate you

Now leave your mother outa this Lucky.

BINGO.

there is not one single thing that the right will agree with when it comes to President Obama.

Not one!

What does that tell ya?

Santa is a crack whore.

Theey've simply found alternate routes such and private ranch lands and tunnels. Areas where the BP can't count them. If they sneak in and make it through, then they don't get counted. They're just getting more sophisticated with the cyotes. Human trafficking is a lucrative business in Mexico these days. The economy has been in the tank. If/When low wage/low skill jobs pick back up, so will the illegals.

Truth is President Obama is the first president to actually address the border problem then actually do something about it.

It must really kill the Republicans that we have a President whom actually "does" stuff.

Unlike the Republicans who run on a staunch promise to end legal abortions but once in office dont do a darn thing about it.

Obama has not addressed the border problem and legal immigrants will be the first to admit it. Obama was grilled by the latino media over his campaign promise gone by the wayside in lieu of Obamacare for the masses, including illegals.

Resources on the border have increased substantially and illegal crossings are at a forty year low. The Border Patrol has increased in size and drones have been deployed to aid in surveillance.

You are right...he did put health care reform first. But, NOW we are at an Immigration Bill and he's backing the Senate proposal. Are you saying you won't support him now because he didn't move faster earlier?

Isn't that cutting off your nose to spite your face?

why have a NEW bill when the freaking retard obama...sorry to the retards,,,,wont enforce current laws...

Only if Fux Snooze or Rush Limbaugh tells them that it is true will they believe it. Bunch of panty waist lemmings..

perfect picture of the dems....WELL SAID...bravo

Yes...I understand Rush thinks the Republican Party is wrong on Immigration and that he intends to change things.

Hahahaha.

There is one thing we agree on he is a commie.

We only have the lowest border crossings because our economy sucks right now.

Common sense let me try to explain, the reason there are less border crossings is because it is done illegally and the numbers you are reading are a guestamation; illegals don't get counted as they come across the boarder.

Record deportations are happening because there are so many illegals here that their living areas are growing, which is causing conflict with citizens, who in turn are calling the law in to investigate.

I will "get out" only when Fux Snooze and fat Rush Limbaugh stops telling their thunderous lies.

HAHAHAHAHA Hillarious myname.

LMAO MY name...they would lick his but in case thier was moisture...kinda like breaking bread.

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You think about fart smelling?

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And the don't mess guy thinks about butt licking?

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Man..........Right wingers are crazy.

Leroy that is correct, because he is a socialist just like you.

joemama can't understand reality...

But the dude is a stickler for grammar.

If you dangle a preposition he will call you out for sure.

If a GOP president ruins the economy and hands the next guy a massive mountain of crap to deal with.....

He'll let the GOP president slide.

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No. Clinton setup the failure when he forced banks lower their lending standards so more people could buy houses to make him look like a champ.

I understand reality fine and I don't like where we are going. We are turning into a socialist country and people like you laugh because you don't even know the difference.

Clinton didn't force bank to do anything.

My gawd your brain is being raped by fox news.

Good thing the GOP is so concerned with rape bills.

Maybe your brain rape can be saved by your party.

Key decisions about regulating financial derivatives were made under Clinton. The credit bubble built under Bush. The initial response to the financial crisis — which set us on a path that was hard to reverse after-the-fact.

www.openmarket.org/2008/09/16/clinton-pressure-to-promote-affordable-housing-led-to-mortgage-meltdown/

"And, of course, one of the larger obstacles to minority homeownership is financing, is the ability to have their dream financed. Right now, we have a program that all of you are familiar with, maybe our fellow Americans are, and that’s what they call a Section 8 housing program, that provides billions of dollars in vouchers to help low-income Americans with their rent. It encourages leasing. We think it’s important that we use those vouchers, that federal money to help low-income Americans go from being somebody who leases to somebody who owns; that we use the Section 8 program to not only help with down payment, but to help with continuing monthly mortgage payments after they’re into their new home. It is a – it is a way to help us meet this dream of 5.5 million additional families owning their home.

I’m also going to encourage the lending industry to develop a mortgage market so that this script, these vouchers, can regularly be used as a source of payment to provide more capital to lenders, who can then help more families move from rental housing into houses of their own.

Freddie Mae – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – I see the heads who are here; I want to thank you all for coming – (laughter) – have committed to provide more money for lenders. They’ve committed to help meet the shortage of capital available for minority home buyers.

Franklin told me at the meeting where we kicked this office, he said, I promise you we will help, and he has, like many others in this room have done.

Freddie Mac recently began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers and create greater opportunities for homeownership. One of the programs is designed to help deserving families who have bad credit histories to qualify for homeownership loans."

Dubya 2003

If you have bad credit history that doesn't sound very deserving to me.

You right wingers seem fixated on licking butts.

What's up with that?

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Must be a Rush thing.

Or is Beck a butt licker?

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Ah...so where do YOU get your news?

That's really a pretty childish answer. Let me guess. You are a Libertarian?

here is the definition of a Republican- Ignorant racist

obsolete?

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Dude, if you aren't the biggest moron where you live i suggest you never leave that town.

You do know the results of the last election........

No....You obviously don't.

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Useful idiots is what the democratic constituents are.

Conservative definition: marked by moderation or caution.

If you don't like the definitions write to merriam webster and try to get them to change them.

What ignorance are you spewing now?

Ignorant of each and every factual issue.

You most certainly are.

There shouldn't be a space in Oxycontin. You must have misread the label on your bottle.

When you have thin ice arguments resort to spell checking others posts.

it doesnt surprise me that you know all about oxycontin or codone or whatever the hell it is.

What kind of high is that if you dont mind me asking.?

I don't know much about prescription medication but what I do know is the spell check will fix it for you.

Its a message board where people type fast and make mistakes.

Who gives a crap if something is spelt wrong?

Doesnt matter one bit as long as you get the gist of what they are saying.

I thought Spellczyk was a rightwinger for the capitals.

Ouch it hurts!

Laughable

More deflection from the republican crowd?

Who woulda thunk it?

Its spelled johnny not spelt.

Bingo! Useful idiot. Go read some Vladimir Lenin and you will know what that means.

Wow frick and frack givin Johnny the what for huh?

Ouch

By the way its "your mother" not joe mama

Idiot

I know. Useful Idiot.

Joe Mama doesn't mean your mother. Maybe it means your mother but not mine.

no you dont or you would have corrected it busy idiot.

Spell check it next time.

Nope Joe Mama means your mother.

Fact

In the socialists eyes they are. They use them for a vote then they throw them away. Useful idiot.

Ok if it makes you feel better.

But johnny-3621820 still means Useful Idiot.

Thats the nicest thing youve ever said to me. Thanks

Socialist? What is the Right Wing Ding fascination with the word socialist?

It makes anything else you say suspect.

Your welcome. And sorry it's "you've".

No fascination. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and looks like a duck then its a duck.

Yes I mean welfare and all other forms of entitlement havnt been around for years have they?

Point is we have been a socialist nation for a long long time now.

Just a republican scare tactic to call President Obama a "socialist".

Its rediculous.

No he is a socialist.

There is a wide range. Government itself is "socialist," in that it is a departure from the "state of nature," via a "social contract" among individuals.

The Constitution was "socialist" in that it created a stronger federal union, with sovereign states yielding a portion of that sovereignty to a central government, based on the majority, rather than the absolute veto each State held, under the Articles of Confederation.

And, a progressive income tax is "socialist" in that it assumes those who have made more money should pay more in taxes than those who haven't and should bear a greater share of the tax burden.

IOW, there are many "degrees" of socialism. If your usage of the term is questioned, it is seek to place you at a given point on the "spectrum of socialism."

Even Ayn Rand supposedly signed up for social security and Medicare in her final years.

Hahahaha...same person...same views. I do not ALWAYS agree with Obama. I voted for him twice primarily because of the intransigence of the Republican Party, of which I was a member, from McGovern's nomination to the Bush II nomination.

And, I believe that it is this current intransigence that brought Obama to some of his actions, regarding Executive Orders...such as the one upholding Prosecutorial Discretion on the part of Justice and Homeland Security.

A prime reason for my vote in 2012 was his economic plan versus Romney's. Romney turned out to be a huge disappointment and a bit out of his league. The obvious turn to the neo-con foreign policy toward the end of the campaign was very transparent...and the defense spending boost to build more ships for the Navy, in swing states politically as another. Romney was a characteur

Continued: a characteur of some concept he had in his head of what a politician SHOULD BE. And, he flip-flopped even more than Kerry in 2004, suggesting to me that there were no real principles behind him other than wanting to be President and go his father one better (which he'd already accomplished in terms of wealth accumulation).

And, it was really the same opld, same old. Republicans need to start with the challenges of the global economy and work backwards to the American worker. I am afraid there is no longer much to the Party other than a dying collection of Old White Dudes (with an occasional exception) trying to hold on to the status quo they profited from without understanding the changes.

Romney's economic plan was not too different from that of Obama's in terms of the deficit and balanced budgets. Romney just got to the same point by across the board tax cuts, vague revenue increases through undefined caps on deductions, and defense spending. Pretty low-brow stuff from Mr. Wall Street. But then Wall Street has never said "no" to the use of blunt instruments.

But how transparent was Romney's adoption of a neo-con foreign policy shortly after meeting with the Newt and Shelton in Vegas? The defense spending increases to build Navy ships in the ship yards of eastern swing states?

And, did they go their separate ways fast or not? Romney dropped the Republican Party and the Republican Party dropped Romney like a hot potato, within 48 hours of the election. Hmmm? Guess that's not a big surprise when you blow $1.0 billion of "other people's money." Guess he won't be back in Vegas anytime soon.

Democrats used to blame their losses on not being "pure enough" liberals the same way Republicans blame their losses on not being conservative enough. Found that it is difficult to win elections that way. Americans still vote their pocketbooks.

If anyone had watched the polling they would have seen that Americans believed a) that the economic disaster was Bush's fault, more than the Democrats, and that the economy WAS getting better, unlike what Republicans were telling them, just slowly. When Romney came on with basically the same Bush message, the choice was easy.

Why would the American people want to elect a guy who made $250 million in leveraged buy-outs, as an investment banker, right after the largest banking failure in American history? And, on top of that, a guy who acted very, very defensively about showing his tax records.

Hahaha...talk about being delusional?

I am surprised he did as well as he did.

P.S. Obama undestands the need to shift the economy away from financial services and back more toward manufacturing, plus the infrastructure needs to get there. It's a new business plan. Romney offered an old business plan...one that had been unsustainable in the past. The U.S. can probab ly recover either way...as a two class society or a three class society, although it would be difficuklt to maintain a democracy based on a middle class, without one. Romney was offering a two class society; Obama is striving for three. Thjat;s the difference.

Unless you actually think small businesses run America?

Hahahaha.

Adios amigo

Refreshing. Someone that gets it. Thanks Coopster. The exit poll, November 6th, 64 percent of the actual voters that decide everything said that the condition of the current economy is Bush's fault. That is why they elected Obama. The Americans have spoken. They said that the Republicans can blame it on ethnic differences, (Immigration), or the man in the moon, but it is about eight years of supporting a moron and his henchmen. If Republicans want to regain relitivity without waiting for a generation to die off then they are going to have to apologize for following the pied piper from Texas.

Be sure to tune in, Don, Powell is one of the few republicans with a brain.