Immigration takes center stage… But passage won’t be easy… Obama thanks Hillary Clinton… Rreading the 2016 tea leaves from the interview… Hagel and the outside groups trying to defeat his nomination… Breaking down the Chambliss and Harkin retirements… And McDonnell and Cuccinelli oppose Virginia’s electoral-vote change.
*** Immigration takes center stage: Exactly seven days since President Obama’s inauguration, a series of events this week suggests that immigration has the best shot at being the first big legislative action -- and potential battle -- of 2013 (outside of the budget, of course). Today, a bipartisan group of eight senators (Democrats Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Bob Menendez, and Republicans John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake) are laying out four agreed-on principles to achieve comprehensive immigration reform. Also today, at 11:00 am ET, several organizations pushing immigration reform are holding a press conference at the National Press Club to issue a “call to action” on the subject. And tomorrow, Obama heads to Las Vegas to deliver his own remarks on immigration. The bipartisan group of senators, in particular, is a big deal. Indeed, this appears to be the first time that McCain has signed on to a top Obama legislative priority since the presidential first took office. And here are their four principles: 1) create a “tough but fair path to citizenship” for illegal immigrants that’s contingent on border security; 2) reform the system in a way that helps build the economy; 3) establish an effective employment verification program; and 4) reform the system of admitting future workers. Five of the eight senators (Rubio, McCain, Schumer, Durbin, and Menendez) will appear together today in DC at 2:30 pm to officially unveil their agreement; the other three have scheduling conflicts in their home states.

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Senator Marco Rubio, R-Fla., questions Senator John Kerry (Not Pictured) during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee confirmation hearing on Kerry's nomination to be secretary of state, on Capitol Hill in Washington, Jan. 24, 2013.
*** But its passage won’t be easy: On paper, passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill should be more than doable. After all, it’s now in both parties’ interest to do so -- for Democrats, it’s delivering on a campaign promise; for Republicans, it’s to avoid again losing the Latino vote by a 71%-27% margin. But remember this: Nothing is ever easy in Washington. For one thing, the devil is in the details, even with these bipartisan principles. How do you create this “tough but fair path” to citizenship? What’s the punishment for undocumented immigrants? How long do these immigrants have to wait to become citizens (and potential voters)? The other obstacle to passage is the House of Representatives. Does Speaker John Boehner -- once again -- allow legislation that might not have the backing of a majority of his GOP caucus to reach the floor? That said, it was notable that House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan on “Meet the Press” yesterday embraced Rubio’s work on immigration reform. “I support and agree with the principles that he laid out about earned legalization. Making sure that you're not rewarding people for having cut in line, but making sure that we can fix this problem.” Ryan added, “Look, immigration's a good thing.”
*** And selling it Republicans won’t be easy, either: The big challenge, in the short term, is going to be for McCain, Rubio, and Graham to sell this compromise as “not amnesty.” (And that’s exactly what Rubio has been doing in conservative-media circles in the past few weeks.) When you read the bipartisan agreement, there is a lot of detail and promise on this issue, including: making sure these folks pay back taxes and fines, making sure they are in the back of the line behind those folks playing by the rules now, and an agreement that these 11 million undocumented immigrants DON’T get a shot at citizenship until certain border security “metrics” are met. Of course, define “metrics” -- that’s among the detail devils.
*** Obama thanks Hillary: For those of you, like us, who followed every twist and turn during the 2008 presidential race, last night's joint Obama-Hillary Clinton interview on “60 Minutes” was extraordinary. And we understand that the interview was all Obama’s idea -- and it was more about thanking Clinton for being his secretary of state these past four years (and keeping the party united) than about 2016. Here’s a thought exercise: Imagine what Obama’s presidency would have been like had Clinton stayed in the U.S. Senate. During the tough times (health care, the debt-ceiling debate), everyone would have looked for any kind of daylight between the two politicians, and Hillary potentially launching a primary challenge would have been a constant story, even if she had no plans on such a move. But what’s been extraordinary is how loyal Obama and Clinton have been to each other. And this line from Clinton explaining why she accepted Obama’s offer to be secretary of state struck us: “I thought, ‘You know, if the roles had been reversed. And I had ended up winning. I would have desperately wanted him to be in my cabinet. So if I'm saying I would have wanted him to say yes to me, how am I going to justify saying no to my president?’ And it was a great decision, despite my hesitancy about it.”
*** Reading the 2016 tea leaves: Still, the interview did provide some tea leaves to read about 2016. After all, here was the president conducting his first joint media interview with someone other than his wife. It was an affirmation of Clinton’s work, especially after her contentious testimony last week on Capitol Hill. “Well, the main thing is I just wanted to have a chance to publicly say thank you, because I think Hillary will go down as one of the finest secretary of states we've had,” Obama said. It was a reminder that Vice President Joe Biden isn’t the heir apparent, if Clinton decides she wants to run for president four years from now. And lastly, it was evidence that the Democratic Party -- at least right now -- is more united than ever. We were disappointed that so little time was devoted to some of the key foreign policy decisions this tandem made together, including the decision to oust Hosni Mubarak, among other issues.
*** Hagel and the outside groups trying to defeat his nomination: On Thursday at the Senate Armed Services Committee, Chuck Hagel has his confirmation hearing to be Obama’s next defense secretary. And yesterday, the New York Times noted that Hagel’s confirmation battle is the first to be fought in the Super PAC/post-Citizens United era. “The media campaign to scuttle Mr. Hagel’s appointment, unmatched in the annals of modern presidential cabinet appointments, reflects the continuing effects of the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision, which loosened campaign finance restrictions and was a major reason for the record spending by outside groups in the 2012 election... While the campaign against Mr. Hagel, a Republican, is not expected to cost more than a few million dollars, it suggests that the operatives running the independent groups and the donors that finance them — many of whom are millionaires and billionaires with ideological drive and business agendas that did not go away after the election — are ready to fight again.”
*** Breaking down the Chambliss and Harkin retirements: In the past 72 hours, two U.S. senators -- Republican Saxby Chambliss of Georgia and Democrat Tom Harkin of Iowa -- announced they wouldn’t be seeking re-election in 2014. That means we now have four retirements (John Kerry, Jay Rockefeller, Chambliss, and Harkin), and other ones potentially in the works (Frank Lautenberg, Tim Johnson, maybe Thad Cochran or Mike Enzi). Politically, perhaps the most significant story we’ll be following after these retirements is to see how the GOP primaries in Georgia and Iowa play out (West Virginia, too, for that matter). Do Republicans coalesce around the more electable candidate, or does the most conservative candidate win? One other thing to watch: Chambliss has the ability to be a wild card on legislation -- his retirement statement criticized both Obama and Congress -- and Harkin might be a little more free to vote on contentious legislation (like gun control) than he would have if running for re-election next year.
*** Obama’s day: Besides all of today’s immigration news, President Obama and Vice President Biden are holding a meeting this morning with police chiefs from around the country -- including from Aurora, CO, Oak Creek, WI, and Newtown, CT -- to discuss reducing gun violence. Also today, at 1:40 pm ET, Obama will welcome the Miami Heat to the White House to celebrate their NBA championship from last season.
*** McDonnell, Cuccinelli oppose electoral-vote change: Lastly, both Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) and GOP gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli have come out in opposition of the Republican effort in the state to change how Virginia’s electoral votes are awarded. Folks, the effort in Virginia is dead. The question is whether Republicans in other states -- like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin -- are still thinking about pursuing the change. As Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker told Newsmax, per NBC's Sarah Blackwill: “It's an interesting idea. I haven't committed one way or the other to it. For me, and I think any other state considering this, you should really look at not just the short-term but the long-term implications. Is it better or worse for the electorate?”
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I say we adopt Mexico's Immigration Laws.- You don't immigrate Illegally to Mexico period !
All I see is closed door hearings and once again, our Government officials, led by a Mexican at heart, circumventing all of the rules of law and the will of the people, that say hell no !
These criminal illegals not only break or border laws, but they also forge documents, a Felony, and steal millions of the identities of American citizens. It is a criminal enterprise, that has to stop here and now !
How many other Mexican laws would you like to adopt? Hell, if you like their system of laws so much, why don't you move to Mexico?
upset..very intelligent response.
Hell, just wait a couple of years and with all the handout Obamaclause is giving the immigrants this will be "Little Mexico "
I would only be for a guest worker program and only after the border is secured. I am not for giving illegals a path to citizenship. Only any one who gets a guest worker permit must be finger printed in order to make sure they have not committed a crime beyond crossing the border illegally. They should also be able to get a valid driver's license that indicates they are not a citizen. They must provide auto insurance. If they violate any of these rules they are deported.
Connecticut, have you heard of La Raza. They teach young Hispanics to believe that the U. S. stole California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas from Mexico.
La Raza also teaches these youths to have loyalty, not to the U. S., but to Mexico.
The leading politicians in this country need to re-examine the history of immigration in the US. Yes we are a country of immigrants, yet prior to the decision to allow our borders to be left open the majority of immigrants came here legally. They then enrolled their children in scholl and learned the language, they got jobs however menial and worked their way up. They never looked to this country for handouts and in fact in most cases were to proud to take assistance when available.
Now we have a group of people who want a free pass even though their first act upon entering this country was to break the law. I am not prejudiced against any race or religion particularly those who are will to work hard and earn their way. But go through the legal process, do not break our laws and then expect a pass because you are already in the country. How about I go to a bank, break into the vault and when I am caught ask for all the money, because I am already in the vault. As an American I do not have the option of only obeying the laws I like.
Well said - sadly most of the politicians only care for the potential these new voters open up. Forget about us existing citizens who have to foot the bill.
Smoking mirrors; distraction reflecting their inability to solve one problem without hiding it with another; the HMIC administration! So many stupid voters; so little time!
Pigotry, are you sure your not Chuck Todd ? you'll always the first post, and your so far up Obamas as*
there can't be 2 alike and still have room for Feisty. Give the Pres. time to crap so he can think of his next way to fu** the taxpayer
LMAO!
Between her and Feisty, they pounce on every post, which makes you believe they are either paid by the DNC to do this and spread their propaganda, or they are leeches of society.
JERSY GIRL 1 , thanks for agreeing always love your post, by their post I acturally think their mothers had a DNC and they made it thru
Anyone who thinks that opening an easy path to citizenship for the illegal ALIENS who entered this country ILLEGALLY is an intelligent and / or responsible action for our Government to take has obviously imbibed in way too much swilling of the DemoCRAP Partys' diahrrea punch. Swallow it down.....after it's a done deal you will have lots more to enjoy. Personally, I CANNOT WAIT until the ignorant Caucasians in the U.S. are in the MINORITY and become second class EVERYTHING...........Gonna laugh my AZZ off at their most asked question........"What Happened?????"..... Followed by "Oh My GAWD"!!!!!!!!.....Roflmfao at the vision. Ask the Europeans how THEY Like being pushed to the back of the busses THEY BUILT AND PAID FOR... It is coming to your neighborhood. ROFLMFAO at you idiots. And you want to kill the Republicans / Conservatives OFF!!! You idiots don't even realize that The REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES IN THIS country are the only thing standing between you and the CESSPOOL YOU ARE CREATING in our country. Liberals are without a doubt the dumbest and BLINDEST phuucking people on the face of the planet. Don't evn know that a freight train is about to slam them HEAD ON!!! Can't wait to pick your bones clean, idiots!!!
LMAO. Thanks for your moderate position.
there's a light @ the end of the tunnel and it is a FU***** train
And for the African - Americans who are citizens, the above applies to you AS WELL. The Hispanics , Asians and Arab Factions will push your azzes away from the table just as quickly. So, go ahead, continue to support the Party that has been screwing you for decades, dangling those carrots just beyond your reach, and offering you the crumbs from their tables in return for your BLIND Loyalty. THEY WILL TURN AWAY from you so quickly that you won't even realize it. Face it, The Democrat Party has ALREADY refused to acknowledge your honorable and moral positions on Abortion and Homosexuality, and YOU STOOD BY AND TOOK IT!!! They KNEW you would....and you did. So just what has your LOYALTY to the Dims gotten you???? Helll...not lot more than what you got as Chained Enslavement. Namely Poverty and FALSE PROMISES!!!
BigBadWhaterver.....Being Moderate hardly means the same as being a liberal like yourself....Which is blind, ignorant, pompous and stupid. Back on your knees BOB......your natural position. STFU idiot.
Mod - your one nasty teabagger. Just what does the tea party have to offer black americans?
Mark......I normally don't respond to your uninformed, juvenile questions, and "labels" such as "Teabagger". However, just as an observation, with the exception of African-American Pro Athlete in the USA, the most Intelligent, Wealthy, and SUCCESSFUL African Americans are Conservatives or Republicans. Now.....stop asking ignorant kindergartenish questions....let the ADULTS on this site Post....read and Learn, but STFU. Idiots are supposed to be quiet, in which case your mouth should be sewn SHUT!!
Teabagger is not an insult it is a name members of the Tea Party call themselves. Like a Libertarian or a republican.
Does anyone know how Obamacare will affect the illegal immigrants?
I'm talking about the one's that fill out an I-9 form at time of employment and present their fake visa, I.D. and SS cards. The vast majority of these illegals (and there are millions employed this way) will need to prove they have health insurance like the rest of us, correct?
If they can't show proof of insurance then they pay the IRS penalty or go on medicaid? But then this group wants more than anything to stay off the grid so they won't file the paperwork. If everyone is supposed to have some form of health insurance (medicaid or an employers policy) then can they be turned away when they have no proof?
Just wondering how they are going to get around the no insurance thing. Anybody know?
grababrewski......if illegals can get free medical care NOW by simply visiting an ER or Inpatient Hospital Clinic they will receive the same treatment AFTER ObamaCare becomes fully effective. Why do you think so many Hospitals went belly-up in New Mexico and Arizona along the Border.
All of this of course will become a mute point over time. One has to only look at birth rates and median ages from our country and that from developing countries. The white European civilization is in decline. In the not too distant future, when some Asian, Spanish or Muslim speaking archaeologist is examining some relic from our extinct culture, he will be the only one that realizes that we ever even existed....
when it comes to reproduction, the Muslims win...why they can have 4 wives and as many sex slaves as they can handle and they breed like rabbits...
.......and then of course, there also the Chinese....
The one-child policy in China began under the communist party in the 1970s. This policy prohibits most couples from having more than one child throughout their marriage. Couples can be fined thousands of dollars for an unplanned second childbirth. According to CNN World, China intends on keeping the policy through 2018 at least. The policy was implemented because the government feared that they would not be able to support the population. It has been effective -- the population growth dropped by half between 1970 and 1976. China's population is expected to peak around 2050.
Second Birth Regulations
There are some exceptions to the one child policy. If both parents are only children themselves, they can have two children. If the first child is disabled or ill and will not be able to perform normal labor, the couple may have another child. If a couple is divorced and remarried and one partner has a child from a previous marriage but the other does not, they can have a child. If a couple is unable to bear children and adopts, then later is able to bear children they can have a child. Rural families who have only one male who is the husband, families who have an injured soldier and families who are currently living with parents-in-law can have more than one child. In all of these circumstances the couples must wait four years between births. If a couple adopts, they must wait four years after the adoption before giving birth.
Just imagine the consequences if the Chinese followed the Muslim reproduction guidelines...
I am trying not to LOL
I never realized that senators representing Illinois, New Jersey, Colorado, and S. Carolina were such experts on illegal aliens, nor that congress, actually lacking intelligence itself, is so obviously threatened; therefore their urgent need for millions of more dumb voters.
Budweiser's dropping market share and their blatant overstocked store cooler space proves that whatever is deprogramming brainwashed Americans must be stopped; to sell more 30 packs of Bud Lite in Texas, import more simple minded Mexican Catholics.
FIRST, solve UNEMPLOYMENT and overpopulation before opening the flood gates! Why should displaced Americans tolerate or compete for homeland jobs by foreign nationals that will work for pennies on the dollar even after being trained by skilled white / blue collar American workers? The USA is already over burdened with the greatest prison population in the world, and Obama's socialized medicine won't improve Doctor's paychecks. So, the answer is not cheap labor or cheaper foreign doctors.
The genuine US Treasury Dollar has been replaced for 100 years by the worthless Bank of England's – "fiscal cliff" – Federal Reserve - counterfeit currency note that has done nothing historically but continually and intentionally collapse the world's economy; so now the elite political enemies within government, all members of the Council of Foreign Relations, must fragment the borders even more with run-of-the-muck-immigration simply because the red necks of Waller, Texas stopped Gov. Perry from giving Spain a free NAFTA highway.
War,
Obama's socialized medicine? You mean Obama's plan that states that everyone must have PRIVATE HEALTHCARE INSURANCE!!! Jesus Christ you people are stupid.
@Vipp: Wait until all of the ACA kicks in 2014 and then when you can't find a doctor to treat you, we'll see if you still like Obamacare. National run healthcare in the UK, New Zealand, Canada and others do NOT work very well. Yes, everybody is eligible to get treatment but the wait to see a doctor or get surgery is sometimes 1 year or more. Most of these people see Physician Assistants or Nurse Practioners and go to clinics instead of seeing doctors because they have a doctor shortage which is guaranteed to happen in the US. There are, of course, the WEALTHY in those countries who buy a seperate private insurance so a doctor will see them and treat them.
Believe,
Not true....they do work and they work well. France is considered to have the best healthcare system in the world according to the world health organization. They have universal healthcare and those who wish and can afford additional healthcare coverage buy it in the private market. But everyone has healthcare coverage and they pay two times less than us per capita. We are stupid.
We Don't Need Immigration Reform......We Need Immigration Enforcement
"Gun Control Is Hitting Your Target"
after obamas idiot move on appointments..i wouldnt really worry about his immigration issues...
hes gonna have to read up on how to do his job,,,,after all if there is any way obama can learn just 1 thing,,we must try it..
but fear not libs..im sure he will just open the border for all,,untill he gets caught again....
what a tool
Texsas? Did you mean Texass?
big sad bob...there you go,,,showing your hate...i live in oregon,,,now put your kkk hat back on and go burn you little cross....
instead of arresting illegal aliens crossing the border, the Obama administration strives to arrest the border patrol agents who are doing their jobs...
At least he didn't send guns across the border like Bush did. Wait for it, wait for it...
idiot
Bob...you are obviously an intelligent azzhole. Smart diarrhea responses to everything.
you forgot to mention Eric Holder and "fast and furious" campaign.....
Kettle black?? LOL
when did immigration become job 1? what legislation is needed to right nowto better secure the border, proceed against those that have over stayed their visa, improve the quest worker program and the e-verify program? pass new legislation and why are we then going to do something? you advocate a path to citizenship great but first show you are serious about fixing existing issues. raise taxes and we'll cut spending, really? pass legislation providing for a path to citizenship and we'll do all these other things we could be doing now but are not, really?
It became job 1 when some republicans figured out that if they keep bashing and slandering Mexicans that they were going to lose election after election. Something that seems to have escaped the great intellects posting for the RWNJ position today.
That Rubio is such a pinko commie leftist!
Anyone in the GOP who thinks latinos are going to vote for them because they helped push through another amnesty needs to have their head examined.
Go ahead and increase the legal voters from a group that consistently votes democratic?!?
Talk about being stupid.
BigNotSoBadButUnbelievablyStupidBob.....Idiocy must be the First Item listed on your Resume'. If not, it should be, because it GLOWS in every post you have.
it became job 1 when you decided that you could use it to distract americans from the lack robust job growth, annual deficits and growing debt, and the out year insolvency of entitlements. there is nothing stopping the administration from doing everything but a path to citizenship now.
Pres. Obama sure likes going to Las Vegas.
President Obama likes vacations, golf courses and being subserviant to Muslim leaders...
We've already tried immigration reform in 1986.
It failed.
Now we need to put fear into anyone here illegally and to send dogs and troops after them. Since these folks have no right to be here, they have no right to have any way to make amends. The fact that they've contributed to society means nothing. A criminal on the lamb can disappear for 20 years and can contribute, but that doesn't change the facts of his situation. And hence, the Mexican illegals need to get the hell out of this country - be gone - go back home! You law breaking miscreants! Take your loot and your children and get the hell out of here!
Any Senator or Congressman who votes for immigration reform needs to be brought up on charges as co-conspirators and thrown out of the country with their perps.
Say no to immigration reform. Say yes to ending jobs and prosecute all employers to the fullest - let's start making living here as uncomfortable as possible for the mexican illegals.
Why did it fail?? Hmmmmmm
President Reagan, in 1986, signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act, which legalized close to 3 million undocumented immigrants. The law was supposed to be a comprehensive solution with provisions intended to clamp down on border security. These provisions were never enforced.
President Ronald Reagan said he was going to sign the bill because we had to regain control of our borders. The Simpson-Mazzoli bill contained three promises:
1. The government would make a concerted effort to control the borders.
2. An effective employer verification program would ensure that only legal workers were hired.
3. One-time amnesty would be granted for people illegally in the United States.
All three promises were broken. The government has made no serious effort to control our borders.
This is attributed to Sen. Ted Kennedy’s eventual gutting of the enforcement mechanism for Reagan's employer sanctions, and successive administrations refusing to give our Border Patrol the resources it needs to achieve its mission. Employers continue knowingly to hire illegal immigrants without any real fear of punishment.
Hence the only logical 'immigration reform' is mandatory E-Verify - 30 days to check and then a $1,000 per day fine for employers coupled with increased border security, a tracking system for visa overstays and a reduction in legal immigration from the obscenely high 1M/year - which ends up being about 2M when they add in all the family reunifications to 100,000 per year or less.
Implement all of that and we can discuss what to do with those who remain in the US after a few years.
@PIGGY: Hill-Billary in 2016 LOL, where should I start??
Last week "What does it matter" "I didn't see any requests for added security!! LOL
White-Water, "I cannot remember , I cannot remeber" LOL
Water-Gate:
She’s lied before, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
HILLARY'S WATERGATE SCANDAL By Jerry Zeifman In December 1974, as general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, I made a personal evaluation of Hillary Rodham (now Mrs. Clinton), a member of the staff we had gathered for our impeachment inquiry on President Richard Nixon. I decided that I could not recommend her for any future position of public or private trust. Why? Hillary's main duty on our staff has been described by as "establishing the legal procedures to be followed in the course of the inquiry and impeachment." A number of the procedures she recommended were ethically flawed. And I also concluded that she had violated House and committee rules by disclosing confidential information to unauthorized persons. Hillary had conferred personally with me regarding procedural rules. I advised her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader Tip O'Neill and I had previously agreed not to advocate anything contrary to the rules already adopted and published for that Congress. I quoted Mr. O'Neill's statement that: "To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series." Hillary assured me that she had not drafted and would not advocate any such rules changes. I soon learned that she had lied: She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them. In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon representation by counsel. This, though in our then-most-recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas. I also informed Hillary that the Douglas impeachment files were available for public inspection in our offices. I later learned that the Douglas files were then removed from our general files without my permission, transferred to the offices of the impeachment inquiry staff, and were no longer accessible to the public. The young Ms. Rodham had other bad advice about procedures, arguing that the Judiciary Committee should neither 1) hold any hearings with or take the depositions of any live witnesses, nor 2) conduct any original investigation of Watergate, bribery, tax evasion, or any other possible impeachable offense of President Nixon - but to rely instead on prior investigations conducted by other committees and agencies. The committee rejected Ms. Rodham's recommendations: It agreed to allow President Nixon to be represented by counsel and to hold hearings with live witnesses. Hillary then advocated that the official rules of the House be amended to deny members of the committee the right to question witnesses. This unfair recommendation was rejected by the full House. (The committee also vetoed her suggestion that it leave the drafting of the articles of impeachment to her and her fellow special staffers.)
Freaky- keep it coming. That's only one straw in the stack.
Looks like the RWNJs are doing their Hillary research. Always the case when they have no program of their own except to say "NO".
George Carlin
(May 12, 1937 - June 22, 2008)
"The American Dream"
Theres a reason why education sucks and its the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. Its never gonna get any better, dont look for it, be happy with what you got. Because the OWNERS of this country dont want that. Im talking about the real owners now. the REAL owners. The big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You dont. You have no choice. You have owners. They OWN you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations theyve long since bought and paid for the Senate the Congress the State Houses the City Halls they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear. THEY GOT YOU BY THE BALLS! They spend BILLIONS of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying to get what they want. Well we KNOW what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they DONT want. They dont want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They dont want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. Theyre not interested in that. That doesnt help them. Thats against their interests. They dont want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly theyre getting f***ed by a system that threw them overboard thirty f***ing years ago, they dont want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly sh***ier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And NOW theyre comin' for your social security money. They want your f***ing retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They'll get it! Theyll get it all from you sooner or later because they OWN this f***ing place. Its a big club... and YOU AINT IN IT. You and I are not in the big club. By the way, its the same big club they use to beat you over the head all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted, folks. The game is rigged. And nobody seems to notice.. nobody seems to care... Good honest hard-working people. White-collar, blue-collar, it doesnt matter what color shirt you have on, good honest hard-working people continue - these people of modest means - continue to elect these rich c**k suckers who dont give a F*** about them. They dont give a F*** about you, they dont GIVE a F*** about you. They dont CARE about you. At ALL, at ALL, at ALL! Man...You know? And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care... Thats what the owners count on - the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red white and blue d**k thats being jammed up their a**holes everyday because the owners of this country know the truth... Its called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.
Anyone who believes these sociopaths we have in DC care one lick for working Americans should have their head examined.
Anyone know why Obama is going to Nevada to present this issue? Seems to me Arizona has a much larger problems and more hispanics to address. Hostile territory perhaps?
I don't know. Ask your hand.
Not for long. Arizona will be a battleground state next in 2016.
Keep up on the good immigration policies. Start chanting "deport, deport, deport". See how far that gets you.
because Las Vegas and Reno are in Nevada....
I really wish I did not have to live anywhere near liberals or illegals. I think they should all live together and tolerate and melt with each other since they think alike. Illegals steal from our citizens and Democrats believe in "redistributing the wealth". Please explain to me how you are entitled to something you have not earned??????????????????????????????? What a country we live in....it makes me want to puke. Illegals DO NOT deserve a path to citizenship PERIOD!!!!! GO HOME and get in line. Liberals do not deserve money they did not earn. How about if you go earn a bunch of money for yourselves instead of expecting someone else to give their hard earned money to you......MOOCHERS!!! Immigrants used to come here for a better life, now they come here illegally and expect freebies and they get it and MOST stupid Liberals are such bleeding-hearts, they still think these illegals come here to better themselves and they do, with free healthcare in emergency rooms and now they will be getting licenses so they can get more freebies....at the expense of hard-working citizens. Please tell me why this is ok with you idiots???????????
Move to Antarctica, real soon please.
Move to Lahore....
Where your momma is the mayor. I love the 6th grade.
BigDumbBob.....yeah, we KNOW you love 6th Grade.........you've been held in 6th for 8 years...time to move your Life FORWARD and HOPE some CHANGE falls out of the Dear Leaders' Welfare coffers for you??? LEAN Forward and SMILE......the only thing coming your way is being flushed right now. Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.....AHA, 3rd Flush did the trick did it????
Your post is too long, too boring and too Kooky.
How about refuting the arguments instead of insulting the person who made them, too much trouble for ya?
Better yet...how about just STFU!!
No no no no. The illegals will get amnesty quick cutting in front of people who did things the right way and the borders will NOT be make secure. I'm sick of this politically correct crap, enforce the laws on the books now.
This is just such a slap in the face to all the hard working immigrants who entered this country, legally.
Our government is an embarrassment.
I don't think too many Native Americans think there are a lot of immigrants in the country legally.
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Great post....I wish all of us noticed. I can admit that I get caught in the machine from time to time. This site is a perfect example. I'll sit hear and argue for "my side" and that's what they want. A divided country arguing often about petty topics while the real problems go unnoticed.