Next up: Immigration

The president is taking his second-term agenda on the road next week. 

However, the topic of Tuesday’s trip is immigration and not gun control. While event details are still being sorted out, the White House has confirmed that “the president will be traveling to Nevada on Tuesday to redouble the Administration's efforts to work with Congress to fix the broken immigration system this year.”

This comes after an unannounced meeting at the White House with members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Friday morning. Members of the caucus and the White House expressed a “sense of urgency” when it came to tackling the issue of comprehensive immigration reform. 

Since his re-election, President Obama has said that he would attempt to tackle the issue in his second term and the topic was given prominence by being included in his inaugural address. 

“Our journey is not complete until we find a better way to welcome the striving, hopeful immigrants who still see America as a land of opportunity,” he said Monday.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), who has been an outspoken supporter of the DREAM Act and comprehensive immigration reform said after the meeting, “We all need to work together -- the president and Congress, Republicans and Democrats -- to get something done right away."

In an interview late last year, House Speaker John Boehner said, “I think a comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I’m confident that the president, myself, others, can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all.”

But while there has been acknowledgement and even some optimism on both sides of the aisle that there needs to be some type of reform to the country’s immigration system, it is still unclear how any kind of large-scale reform would move through Congress, what the details would be, and who would spearhead it.

President Obama's push for comprehensive immigration reform comes after his sweeping advantage with Latinos in his re-election. Obama won 71 percent of Latinos, up from 67% in 2008. They made up 10 percent of the electorate, up from 9 percent in 2008, which underperforms their population nationally -- 16 percent, according to the U.S. Census.

In Nevada, those shares are even higher. Obama won 74 percent of Hispanics in Nevada, and made up 19 percent of the electorate (but are 27 percent of the overall population). They were crucial in helping Obama to a 52-46% win in the Silver State, as well as victories in Colorado, New Mexico, and Florida. 

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Immigration reform should include new guidelines for Emergency room shared information, new guidelines for repercussions of Identity theft and new innovated technologies in our health care facilities, (it would create jobs, something that doesn't reflect that high of a priority on the President's agenda) which would promote the use of hand scanners and digital photos of any use of the E.R. by individuals who could not show proper I.D. The border crossings, are a crime against Federal Law and these laws should stand-fast and be enforced to the full capacity of the immigration Patrol. The reforms need to take place within the Bureaucratic nightmare and mountainous mounds of paper work required to be filtered through the system and resembles the nightmarish IRS code many citizens struggle with year to year. The process and length of time it takes to "go through the system" needs streamlined and basic guidelines and backlash penalties need incorporated if a newly authorized immigrant becomes an immediate danger or burden to the U.S. From a national security stance, the backdoor through our southern border has always been a leaky facet and at some point the bucket runs over.

Many Southern States have made in nationally clear their needs to get a grip on the issues involved on illegal crossings and the burdens it was creating on their public assistance programs. Another issue is Anchor babies and the burdens associated with no responsibilities on the illegal parents and their criminal behavior, by not following Federal Law, end up with public assistance, welfare and other programs designed to help legal citizens and not specifically criminals who happen to pop a child out on non-native soil to the illegal.

Many of the issues involve the FAILED War on Drugs. Another hot potato subject: I will leave it that....

  • 3 votes
Reply#104 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:02 AM EST

Give me a F-in break.... I only "immigration" that this bastard president wants is all those illegal votes he would get when he give up the US citizenship to these ILLEGALS. Illegal is illegal is illegal..... PERIOD do your damn jobs and deport these illegals instead of giving them free ...............

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Reply#105 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:02 AM EST

If you deported all the illegals, the economies of most western and southern states would collapse. Are you willing to pick grapes or other produce all day? Cotton? Fruit? Where you gonna get your tacos??? That Mexican restaurant called Taco Bell? Why, Mitt may actually have to try to find a white gardener.

    #105.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:10 AM EST

    Without labors to pick produce, necessity is innovation--we WILL develop machinery to do the job. Tacos aren't Mexican, they were invented in the USA.

    • 4 votes
    #105.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:20 AM EST

    Legal American workers handle over 75% of the farm labor in the US already.

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    #105.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:58 AM EST

    Economies in the South didn't collapse when Eisehower bussed over 600,00 illegals back in the 50's. As a matter of fact it created bus driver jobs and it was estimated hundreds of thousands more illegals left before they got rounded up.

    • 2 votes
    #105.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:29 AM EST

    @woodbutcher So you like the fact that farmers are paying foreigners slave wages to pick crops? You do know that they drive wages down in multiple industries right? I'm not just talking about farm jobs either.

      #105.5 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:41 AM EST

      wood..., No, illegal is arrest, tried, convicted, sent to prison, rented out on chain gang to harvest crops at 22 cents an hour. Other illegals see friend in field in chain gang, Mitt was right !!! self-deportation.

      Funnies aside, if the USA makes being here UNPROFITABLE & too painful, we will reduce a good 3/4-ths. Add the requirement of an SSN & American photo ID to send money out of country. Many come here & send home weekly wire-cash to family. If unable to do so if illegal, the reason to be here disappears..and so do they.

      One item I would REALLY like to add, would be a MANDATORY 20 year Federal prison sentence for illegal US entry for the furtherance of a crime. Getting bust for theft, assault, drugs, guns, rape, anything...BAM, say hello to Uncle Sammy's gray-bar hotel..for twenty years. If you can't prove LEGAL U.S. entry.

      As said, painful.

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      #105.6 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:13 AM EST
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      People sure got a different way of looking at things these days. If the market has a "correction" you know it's going to drop and you'll lose money. Why can't a correction mean the market will start making money? That'd be a better "correction?

      Same with immigration reform, I thought "reform"was to improve? Instead, it means to hand the country over to illegals. If you don't want to give everything away you're labeled as a "hater". Sure is different times.

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      Reply#106 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:07 AM EST

      Amen brother.

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      #106.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:25 AM EST

      People just don't have functioning brains anymore. They forgo critical thinking and common sense and buy into garbage that various media outlets spew out. We need to lose the Barney and Friends mentality and figure out what is actually sustainable.

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      #106.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:48 AM EST
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      I will admit that I am fairly ignorant on most of these laws as I have never studied them. But I have enough common sense to see that many, not all, Mexicans come to this country for handouts. What if a child born in the states from illegal parents had to remain in this country with at least 1 parent for, say, 5 years before citizenship would be accepted? That means never leaving the USA for a visit to their native country for 5 years. Would there be many standing in line for said citizenship? This would be fair as it would prove earnestness on the parent's side. What if all of the illegals committing crimes were exported back to their native country and never allowed in the states again? That would be fair and just. There should be acceptance of the USA's laws from each and every one wanting citizenship. Illinois is probably going to be giving illegals their driving license very soon. Can you go to another country and just be accepted immediately and given all of the perks of their citizens without question? Mexicans should have to learn OUR language, not try to make the USA into Mexico, be willing to accept, without question, that living in the USA means getting a job, paying taxes, and promoting the goodness they came to receive themselves. That would be fair. We truly have enough people on welfare that are Americans. Be a good citizen if you want to live here. Better your life and your new country.

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      Reply#107 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:08 AM EST

      Can we concentrate on a budget and some job creation? Too bad those two things weren't part of Obama's agenda.

      The only thing Hispanics and others looking for citizenship don't understand is once you become a citizen your expected to pay for some benefits.

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      Reply#108 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:10 AM EST

      I guess Charles is one of those people who can't multi-task?

        #108.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:11 AM EST

        Obviously, neither can Obama.

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        #108.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:13 AM EST
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        Immigrants help build this great country, but it seems they aren't quite as responsible and productive as they once were, now we just use them for jobs we're to lazy to do.

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        Reply#109 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:12 AM EST

        Chucky--from a 2006 Texas study

        The absence of the estimated 1.4 million undocumented immigrants in Texas in fiscal 2005 would have been a loss to our gross state product of $17.7 billion. Undocumented immigrants produced $1.58 billion in state revenues, which exceeded the $1.16 billion in state services they received. However, local governments bore the burden of $1.44 billion in uncompensated health care costs and local law enforcement costs not paid for by the state.

        • 1 vote
        #109.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:13 AM EST

        Give me the numbers on the strain they put on our states by the free-bees they receive. I doubt we break even.

        The evidence suggests that the overall costs imposed on the U.S. economy by illegal immigrants are equivalent to or outweighed by the benefits.

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        #109.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:18 AM EST
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        oh yeah, they see opportunity all right. still some welfare left to be had. more babies the better. meanwhile we go broke & all they can do for us is limit our magazine capacity. gee, thanks.

          Reply#110 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:13 AM EST

          5th wheel--2006 Texas study..The absence of the estimated 1.4 million undocumented immigrants in Texas in fiscal 2005 would have been a loss to our gross state product of $17.7 billion. Undocumented immigrants produced $1.58 billion in state revenues, which exceeded the $1.16 billion in state services they received. However, local governments bore the burden of $1.44 billion in uncompensated health care costs and local law enforcement costs not paid for by the state.

            #110.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:15 AM EST

            Arizona state treasurer Dean Martin says his state loses between $1.3 billion and $2.5 billion each year on illegal immigrants. In addition to the fiscal costs of incarcerating and educating illegal immigrants and their families, Arizona also faces a variety of other indirect costs.

            This is just in Arizona.

            Most Illegal immigrants work under the table for cash and pay no taxes.

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            #110.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:26 AM EST


            The 2004 spending power of naturalized citizens was approximately $6.1 billion and of non-citizens was approximately $4.4 billion. The economic activity that can be attributed to this spending power includes 66,500 full-time-equivalent jobs and $10.2billion in output. The state tax revenues attributable to this spending power were approximately $780 million.

            From a study by the Udall Center in Arizona

              #110.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:36 AM EST

              We're broke and "Newsflash" it's 2013.

              • 2 votes
              #110.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:50 AM EST

              @woodbutcher I live in AZ. The illegal immigrants aren't making the state better, trust me.

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              #110.5 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:51 AM EST
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              Gee, isn't that great. Why don't I believe in the Democrats having the noblest of motives???! Just maybe, I'm speculatin' here, just maybe they are hoping for 10 million BRAND NEW, GRATEFUL DEMOCRATS!

              Of course all of those people that immigrated into the United States legally, you know, the ones that followed the rules and regulations, the ones that paid the exorbitant $500 to $1000+ fees that ICE charges, those people will find out that they were just a bunch of chumps. Following the rules, following the regulations, following the letter of the law is just for the dummies. This is one of the lessons that will be learned. Of course, the Democrats don't give a tinker's damn about that; they just want registered Democratic voters...to hell with what's right, to hell with what's just, to hell with the law, if only it benefits them and enlarges their voter base.

              Argue with that if you will.

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              Reply#111 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:15 AM EST

              What a triffeling post! I realize it exceeds your tea billy limitations to begin to grasp the full concept of comprehensive immigration... I know, it does not benefit you... so bash the hell out of it....

              Your reasoning is typical teatard... completely useless... GROW UP!

              and thanks for the house in 2014

                #111.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:25 AM EST

                *oops

                  #111.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:31 AM EST

                  leftward,

                  All of the House seats were up for election in 2012 but the GOP still runs it by a wide margin. What happened to all of the supposed liberal outrage? Hmmmm?

                  • 2 votes
                  #111.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:01 AM EST
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                  ". . . to fix the broken immigration system this year.”

                  What immigration system? They sneak in and we tax payers pay then to stay.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#112 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:22 AM EST

                  grow up

                    #112.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:25 AM EST
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                    What is wrong with our immigration laws? I'd like to see them enforced before we are flooded with illegals.

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                    Reply#113 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:24 AM EST

                    Too late.

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                    #113.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:27 AM EST
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                    Every undocumented worker pays state and local taxes and supports their economies. Every undocumented worker pays into the SS system, with little or no chance of recovering that tax. Federal income tax is withheld from paychecks and, if the SS is invalid, no return filed and no refund. Federal law prevents undocumented workers from receiving most benefits, state law prevents others. Most border states with a high undocumented worker population would see their economies collapse if a wholesale deportation took place. A great portion of those undocumented have children who are US citizens. Some path should be available for citizenship for those undocumented who want to be citizens.

                      Reply#114 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:25 AM EST

                      Now wood, you just presented a bunch of facts... the tea billy right will never be able to grasp those FACTS!

                        #114.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:27 AM EST

                        That's BS. It's unclear just how many work under the table for cash, nobody knows for sure, but it is overwhelmingly agreed on that, it's a large number.

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                        #114.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:31 AM EST

                        oh, charlie... todays GOP the party of fear, smear and MISINFORMATION... spin baby spin!

                          #114.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:35 AM EST

                          May be the case, however, if you're illegal than that goes with being illegal. If illegals CAN contribute, pay taxes, AND boost up Social Security, maybe something can be worked out. Social Security can be around for future generations if they quit screwing around with the funds. Also, I retired at 69--no reason others can't. 62 is too early.

                            #114.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:35 AM EST

                            Wow, you obviously have no idea what is going on around you.

                              #114.5 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:35 AM EST

                              Woodbutcher, just to be clear, you don't have to have a SS number to file an income tax return. The IRS will give you a tax number to file with. $4.2 Billion in child tax credits is returned to illegal parents with Anchor Baby children every year. Average refund is 1800 dollars.

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                              #114.6 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:39 AM EST

                              leftward, Arizona state treasurer Dean Martin says his state loses between $1.3 billion and $2.5 billion each year on illegal immigrants. In addition to the fiscal costs of incarcerating and educating illegal immigrants and their families, Arizona also faces a variety of other indirect costs.

                              Illegals are more of a drain than an asset.

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                              #114.7 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:42 AM EST

                              Undocumented, is this also Illegal? Like the terms many like to side with, even though they know they committed a crime to enter the country by not following the proper proto call and chose to enter illegally. I agree to a point of a path to citizenship but the path must be understood the value system in America is not to throw your chit paper into the waste barrel instead of the toilet. It is not to devalue the American way of life by sucking at the teet of public assistance programs and aiding more dependency on Government creating more burdens on the backs of the working middle class. There is a right way and a wrong way, when,..... is it time to accept responsibility for the wrong doers? Oh I know Let's ban Taco's because they are the root of all the illegal immigrant activities.

                                #114.8 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:44 AM EST

                                undocumented worker pays state and local taxes

                                I'm sure you mean sales taxes which I would agree with.

                                If their "Undocumented", how could they be paying into Social Security and be having federal taxes with held from there paychecks. How does that happen exactly, the employer says hey Feds, I have Illegal Immigrants working for me, they don't have SS numbers, here have some Money?

                                Hospitals can't refuse treatment so they go to the emergency rooms and those costs get passed onto us with higher insurance premiums etc.

                                They get free education for their children, Free school lunches etc. whether there children are here legally or not. The money for the schools comes from property taxes which would be fine if you have a single family with a couple of children living in a single family home but what they have is 3,4, 5 families living in a single family home with 6, 8, 10 kids in a house meant for 2 or 3 kids.

                                We spend billions of dollars trying to control Illegal Immigration, we catch them, they go through the process, they get deported, and before you know it there back.

                                I’m willing to bet if we compared what illegal Immigrants “Contribute” compared to what Illegal Immigration “Costs Us” we would find its costing us magnitudes more that what they “contribute”.

                                  #114.9 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:56 AM EST

                                  Facts?

                                  Here is a fact. Illegals are felons.

                                  Either they come here legally or not at all.

                                  Prospective legal immigrants from other countries should sue for discrimination favoring illegal Hispanics.

                                  We need immigration reform. That does not mean that we have to give a pass to illegal aliens.

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                                  #114.10 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:04 AM EST
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                                  Can they bring their fast and furious free guns with them too?

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                                  Reply#115 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:25 AM EST

                                  grow up

                                    #115.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:27 AM EST

                                    No that's what the Cartel gangster is pointing at them while they are being forced to carry that 50lb Bushel of Pot across the border.

                                    If they refuse there decapitated head gets dumped on a freeway to set an example for the others.

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                                    #115.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:01 AM EST
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                                    From the right wing posts on this topic, the attempt in NM to criminalize the victom of rape if she gets an abortion, and bills introduced on day one of the new Congress, looks like a Dem sweep in 2014.

                                      Reply#116 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:28 AM EST

                                      the tea billy repukes will never change... hate is the name of the game... the house in a shoe-in in 2014... thanks teatards!

                                        #116.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:33 AM EST

                                        You say grow up and then name call like a three year old? Pot calling the kettle black.

                                          #116.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:39 AM EST

                                          If that happens I guess it's just proof that this country hasn't suffered enough for electorate. The Dems better hope the gay and lesbian community, the illegal immigrants, and the black community are all still in the bag. Sooner or later the black community will figure out that 16 to 18 percent unemployment within their group isn't cool anymore.

                                            #116.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:39 AM EST

                                            leftward,

                                            All of the House seats were up for election in 2012 but the GOP still runs it by a wide margin. What happened to all of the supposed liberal outrage? Hmmmm?

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                                            #116.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:05 AM EST
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                                            Illegal. operative word, "ILLEGAL". As in violated the law. Reward, citizenship. Ridiculous. Why should anyone follow laws if that is the case? In California a law breaker illegal gets into a state university at resident rates while a person of ANY race that is a legal US citizen has to pay out of state rates. Someone explain that. New York is trying to make it illegals go to college for FREE. Regardless of party affiliation you should be upset. Whether you support immigration reform or not the laws are being intentionally violated, it's not like they entered the US accidentally. The ones, politicians and policy makers that allow it should be drummed out of office. As far as the hispanic vote, that is as much an example of lobbying as oil companies. Support us and you get our vote, actually that is bribery or extortion depending on how you look at things. It is not only hispanics that cross borders. REgardless of language they should be required to learn English, don't want to hear its not fair, thats the language of our country, not Russian, French, Dutch or Spanish. Go to another country to live and work see how it works for you if you don't learn the language. If you wave a wand and give everyone amnesty, you will only encourage 23 million more. Just like a credit card, never pay it down just keep increasing the limit. Then say everything is fine because you declare bankruptcy, and then you repeat the process again and again.

                                              Reply#117 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:29 AM EST

                                              Why can't a Democrat want our immigration laws enforced? The last thing I will do is vote for a party that does nothing even if I agree with their immigration stance. Voting for Obama does not mean I agree 100% with him, that's the beautiful thing about being American your free to vote any way you want. Now let us vote on these issues and in the mean time enforce the laws we have!

                                              • 2 votes
                                              Reply#118 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:32 AM EST

                                              Item number one to be changed should be the "Anchor Baby" interpretation of the 14th amendment. No citizenship just because of being born in the U.S. I can't believe it hasn't happened earlier.

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                                              Reply#119 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:33 AM EST

                                              Another reason the GOP is becoming more irrelevant. FYI, numerous SCOTUS rulings have established that children born in the US ARE citizens. Why does the GOP always want to amend the constitution?

                                                #119.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:38 AM EST

                                                True democrats and republicans are becoming irrelevant. I don't see anyone doing much more than name calling when they don't agreee with someones opinion. Just like the housse and senate you all whine about.

                                                  #119.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:42 AM EST

                                                  Amending the Constitution is better than manipulating or ignoring it.

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                                                  #119.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:45 AM EST

                                                  And Democrats are trying to rewrite the constitution and bill of rights as well, living document according to all the lawyers and politicians.

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                                                  #119.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:45 AM EST
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                                                  The problem with debating the issue of "Immigration reform" with a liberal is that any mention of securing our border is immediately called "Racist". The reality is that our border must be secured, and immigrants must come here legally. I highly doubt Obama will come close to discussing border security. He will most likely pander to illegals to try to secure votes for the left.

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                                                  #120 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:41 AM EST

                                                  Illegals can't vote, and children of illegals born in the US have to wait 18 years. However, a fact not mentioned is that tens of thousands of those new citizens reach voting age every month. And the anti immigrant hysteria is not making THEM overly accepting of the GOP message.

                                                    #120.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:46 AM EST

                                                    Since an ID card is not required of a voter you can bet illegals vote. It's been proven in some cases people who have been dead for 20 years have voted. Maybe not in significant numbers but I have no doubt it wass done.

                                                      #120.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:50 AM EST

                                                      Can you provide a link to one documented case?

                                                        #120.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:51 AM EST

                                                        Dead people, illegals and the multi-voters have been voting for years, it's been proven time and time again and they all usually vote for the same party.

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                                                        #120.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:54 AM EST

                                                        Can you provide a link to any documented conviction? With this epidemic, there should be many.

                                                          #120.5 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:59 AM EST

                                                          There are plenty of links. Problem is are they true or not. I know in washington they culled illegals out of line at voting booths. I also know in Washington state dead people voted and it counted, both in the vote for governor and national elections. It went to court and the judge ruled they count. So, here's a link, plenty more where that came from,of course.

                                                            #120.6 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:01 AM EST

                                                            If you know about it, there should be links.

                                                              #120.7 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:04 AM EST

                                                              You keep asking for links on everything, the internet is full of trash, hackers, false web sites bilking seniors out of money in scams and more. I hope you are not I read it on the internet type of person. If you want facts out out in a FOIA request at least that will come from whatever government agency you request it from instead of a bunch of BS artists on the internet.

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                                                              #120.8 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:06 AM EST

                                                              We are not anti-immigrant. We are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.

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                                                              #120.9 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:06 AM EST

                                                              So society, you cannot produce one documented case of an illegal alien intentionally casting a vote in an election? Something that is of epidemic proportions? Maybe you should check with the organization of Republican Lawyers...oh, that's right...they couldn't produce any either....in a decade..

                                                                #120.10 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:10 AM EST

                                                                Recently in a federal court district in Florida, where they get their "jury pool" from a list of registered voters, it turned out that 3% of prospective jurors were non-citizens! We are a nation with a population of slightly over 300 million, and they tell us we have 12 million illegal (errr Undocumented) aliens residing in the U.S. - that is around 4% of the population. If 3% of the registered voters in one district in Florida are non-citizens and you extrapolate that number to the entire population, that means a very hgh percentage of illegals ARE voting!

                                                                There are many documented cases in several different states, but if you never check for ID many are never caught.

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                                                                #120.11 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:11 AM EST

                                                                sent you one , maybe you should just do a google search yourself, all your comments are just as baseless. Lawyers are the bane of our society as it is. I sent a link 2x, didn't take, but it was on ballotpedia.org, indexed under voter fraud in Texas.

                                                                ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Vote_fraud_in_Texas

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                                                                #120.12 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:12 AM EST

                                                                There is evidence that noncitizens are being registered and casting votes, but due to the laxity in checking the eligibility of registrants and voters the full extent of the problem is not known. One of the most extensively documented cases of illegal voting was in California in 1996. Loretta Sanchez, a Democrat, defeated Republican incumbent Robert Dornan by 984 votes. Dornan called for an investigation of alleged illegal voting by noncitizens. According to Congressional Quarterly, a Washington, DC newspaper that focuses on developments in Congress, "Task force Chairman [U.S. Representative] Vernon J. Ehlers, R-Mich., said investigators had found concrete evidence of 748 illegal votes by noncitizens.

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                                                                #120.13 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:17 AM EST

                                                                Charles from WV, The Washington state governer that was in office the last two terms was voted in by dead people and prisoners still ioncarcerated but the judge that handled the oponnents lawsuit decided that was irrelevant. Those votes took her over the top.

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                                                                #120.14 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:24 AM EST

                                                                I know there's a lot of illegals voting and you know that as well. Some people are just in denial or just plain naive. Voter ID's would put every-ones mind at ease. I don't want one illegal vote to influence or sway our elections.

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                                                                #120.15 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:30 AM EST

                                                                didn't hear a peep from wood after I sent him the name of the site on cases in Texas that were documentd with references.

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                                                                #120.16 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:52 AM EST

                                                                stalin.."voters do not decide elections, those who counts the votes do."

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                                                                #120.17 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:30 AM EST
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                                                                One wonders how much this immigration debacle Obama is after will cost us decent lawful tax paying citizens. all he's doing is buying votes from illegals and hispanics with our tax dollars. Already, we're wasting money on the illegals he gave legitimacy with his presidential order to sidestep the legal congressional system that our constitution has put in place. Obama is a scoundrel and a profligate waster of our tax dollars and seems bent o putting this once great country into a disastrous tail spin. One has to wonder if he really is a devout Muslim

                                                                  Reply#121 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:48 AM EST

                                                                  How do you buy votes from someone who can't vote? However, the now 18 year old US citizen children of those undocumented CAN vote...and do you suppose they will support a party that wants to deport their parents.

                                                                    #121.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:50 AM EST

                                                                    Their parents are criminals.

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                                                                    #121.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:09 AM EST
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                                                                    What makes conservatives think that an undocumented immigrant, i.e., illegal alien, would risk apprehension, conviction, jail time and/or deportation to vote in an election, whether state or federal, and whose vote would have little effect on the outcome of that election? Charles???

                                                                      Reply#122 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:03 AM EST

                                                                      since no one really deports or jails anyone unless they are captured IVO the border apprehension they are caught and released.

                                                                        #122.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:10 AM EST

                                                                        What would make illegal immigrants commit crimes knowing if they get caught they could deported??????? woodbutcher??

                                                                          #122.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:21 AM EST

                                                                          When you have Unions working for the Democrats picking them up to take them to the polling place, wink, wink, I'm pretty sure they have been told that there immigration status wont be checked especially when all they have to do is show a power bill as proof that they are a Resident.

                                                                          Thats why the Left is so opposed to Voter ID laws because it has to be a State issued ID.

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                                                                          #122.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:23 AM EST
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                                                                          This is not hard to understanf.

                                                                          There is no good reason to allow illegals to stay here. Send them home and let therm try to come back legally. Why should they be allowed to stay and keep others out who are trying to do it legally?

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                                                                          Reply#123 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:08 AM EST

                                                                          How about this? If we allow illegals to stay, then the same number of folks trying to come here legally from the same countries that the illegals are from should not be allowed in until the illegals are all processed. We do have quotas, you know. Let the illegals fill up the legal quotas until they are all taken care of. Then we can let those decent folks who tried to do it the right way have a chance again.

                                                                          How does that sound? Is that fair? Hmmm........

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                                                                          Reply#124 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:12 AM EST

                                                                          A nation of beaners !!!...a new kind of patriotism or something WTF !?!

                                                                            Reply#125 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:12 AM EST

                                                                            He should step up and do what he is suppose to do according to our laws!... Round them all up and deport them!

                                                                            Bring our troops from over there back to the USA and use them to fight the war on immigration here!

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                                                                            Reply#126 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:16 AM EST

                                                                            Obama is looking for more supporters for his 3rd term. Goodbye America it's been a great ride.

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                                                                            Reply#127 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:16 AM EST

                                                                            Its OK the Left believes third trimester abortions are perfectly acceptable and should be legal, abortion without restrictions.

                                                                            Of course Abortion is very off topic but I was shocked when I learned, not that we just had the 40 th annivesary of Row versus Wade, but in those 40 years 55 million abotrins have been performed. Can you beleive that, 55 Million Potential U.S. citizens, aborted and they were never given a choice.

                                                                            But where concerned with the 12 million that broke our laws and came here illegally and we have to make sure their treated fairly and get a chance to live the American dream.

                                                                            Pro-Choice what an Awesome Achievement, 55,000,000 abortions.

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                                                                            #127.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:33 AM EST

                                                                            Better than having 55 million unwanted children that grow up to be a drain on society. We have enough people on Earth, we need to get the groups that are having ridiculously high numbers of children to start aborting.

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                                                                            #127.2 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:29 AM EST

                                                                            David, Look at the bright side of 55 million abortions... It means that there a lot fewer liberals than would be otherwise!

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                                                                            #127.3 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:52 AM EST

                                                                            Its OK the Left believes third trimester abortions are perfectly acceptable and should be legal, abortion without restrictions.

                                                                            It's called smaller government.

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                                                                            #127.4 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:11 AM EST

                                                                            David ....... As a Political Conservative I believe a citizen has the right to live with minimal intrusion intrusion from a small government. Not only is it none of my business what an individual decides about reproduction, nut that it should be mandatory for anyindividual that sucks at the welfare teet. If a person is not adult enough to support themselves then how are they adult enough to reproduce? The only problem is that regions that need to reduce population like the mideast, africe, asia and S.America do not have enough abortions.

                                                                              #127.5 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:05 AM EST

                                                                              Daniel, No where in your rant did you put the responsibilty on the person having the abortion...ever heard of birth control? We are now a uncaring, irresponsible and disposable society. sad but true

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                                                                              #127.7 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:50 AM EST
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                                                                              we should have been enforcing our immigration laws and borders the whole time .dems and repubs are as equally guilty.now dems ,wanting to pander to hispanics ,are wanting to give illegals a free pass.all to get a whole voting block to ensure thier power and positions.they are only doing this to promote thier agenda.they know they really can't get much of thier ideaology passed without a group of voters are basicaly ignorant of america and its constitution.in the end this is all about power and to what end will the the dems go to ensure to subversion of the of the u.s.

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                                                                              Reply#128 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:31 AM EST

                                                                              Exactly right. Blame all the way around but no one ponies up, they all pass the buck.

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                                                                              #128.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:38 AM EST
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