GOP: Is changing the message, but not the policy enough?

AP headline: “Jindal: GOP should change 'just about everything.'”

Still, Jindal’s not advocating changing policy or the party moderating its views. “We do not need to change what we believe as conservatives — our principles are timeless,” he said.

So he’s NOT thinking about running then? "Any Republican that's thinking about talking about running for president is 2016 needs to get his head examined," Jindal said, per NBC’s Carrie Dann. "We've got a lot of work to do. We've got to get the Republican Party back on track."

More from Dann: For RNC members assembling in Charlotte for their post-mortem meeting on the election, the mood feels kind of like the punchiness of a long-pummeled team coming back to training camp after a particularly bruising season. Members are candid about the reasons for the tough loss -- including everything from the party's "tone" in addressing minority voters to being trounced in the technology arms race. But for now, there's not much talk about specific policy prescriptions; the group's election review panel is more focused on candidate recruitment, message strategy and making sure the primary process doesn't clobber their eventual nominee. But it's worth noting that their full recommendations won't be out until March of this year.

Beth Reinhard notes that for all the attention Jindal’s speech got in DC, the audience didn’t seem that into it: “Jindal's delivery resembled that of a nervous student rushing through an oral recitation of a term paper. The audience was as distracted as a room of high school classmates. Which raises the question: Can a fast-talking, brainy policy wonk be elected president?”

Rand Paul is not Ron Paul. Could you ever see Ron saying this: “Well absolutely we stand with Israel, but what I think we should do is announce to the world – and I think it is pretty well known — that any attack on Israel will be treated as an attack on the United States.”

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GOP: dump the pro-theocracy crowd or face extinction.

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Reply#1 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:55 AM EST

Is changing the message, but not the policy enough? Does a duck fart in the water, does a bear sh!t in the woods? There's not enough lipstick for the GOP pig (keeping with the animal metaphors).

I can understand why conservative voters don't read the full GOP platform, because it is boring. But read it and see why the policy must change. The "pro-birth" and militant "domestic terrorist" violence that stems from the theocracy part is the worst part.

But the fiscal extremism is bad too. Paul Ryan will be on MTP tomorrow. PLEASE ask him why the richest 2% like him should not pay into Social Security and Medicare on the first $400,000 earned? After all, they now will enjoy the Bush tax cuts on the first $400,000, so fair is fair.

Then ask him to specify what he will cut in his new budget oligarchy agenda on behalf of his plutocrat masters. Ask how Teapublicans can really balance the budget in only ten years without closing loopholes for the rich and corporations. It's Bullsh!t Mountain folks.

    #1.1 - Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:12 PM EST
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    SteveR is right. The Republican Party cannot continue to cater to the "Know-nothings" in their party and expect to profit. Is there anyone in that party that remembers what happened to the "Know-nothings?"

    They insulted a great portion of America by referring to hardworking Americans as "takers". They insulted women by trying to take control of the most intimate decisions that they make. They insulted Latinos by treating them all though they had no right to be here, they insulted gay Americans by trying to stop them from marrying those they love.

    When you do that Republicans, given the demographics of this nation...who is left to vote for you?

    We can't rejoice in the demise of a once great party. American NEEDS two well functioning political parties, one in power, one to act as the "loyal opposition." But obstructionism for its own sake is not loyal, and trying to stop the business of the country with some misguided party loyalty is just pure insanity.

    In order to improve its message, Republicans are going to have to stay out of people's private lives. I don't think they can do it.

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    Reply#2 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:03 AM EST

    I think that newday's comments are spot on. Thanks for saying it so well.

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    Reply#3 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:38 AM EST

    Thank you, CarlM61. Have a good weekend.

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    #3.1 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:22 AM EST
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    When Jindahl stops pushing creationism and accepts science and reality, I might listen to him.

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    Reply#4 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:01 AM EST

    Jindal is not worth listening to ever--after defunding Medicaid Hospice Care, and WP, you are absolutely right on the creationism bs, his credibility is zero. Jindal clean hands, wrong, some very hard questions remain regarding he and his wife's Non-Profit, funding and distribution of funds, refused to disclose when first elected Governor, I know, we escaped from Covington, La. in 2010, after living in La. for 11 years.

    The continued vilification of the least of ours, social engineering, defending the indefensible, false wars, demonizing the President, condoning and encouraging the demeaning of women and minorities--the GOP is doomed, delight in watching the very slow, painful dance of death the GOP is engaged in. Self-destruction is a wonderful thing.

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    Reply#5 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:19 AM EST

    What I find so funny about all these posts it that the right is trying to support the lies of the Republicans and the left is trying to support the lies of the Democrats. Until everyone on these board and other boards are willing to be just as hard on their own party as they are on the other party nothing will ever change in Washington. Washington knows that if they keep the American population arguing against each other that they will be able to get away with any and everything.

    We the people are allowing ourselves to be lied to by both sides. And we try and support those lies. No one wants to step up and call everyone in Washington a liar. Which they all are.

    Until we all start holding everyone in Washington accountable nothing will change. Until we all start telling the side we support to come clean nothing will change. Until we all start telling the side we support to stop playing politics with our lives nothing will change.

    Call me names, try and defend your position. The sad fact is all of you know you can lie to everyone else but you cannot lie to yourself. Look at what you are supporting. Look at the big picture. Then ask yourself how long will you allow the lies from both sides the ruin the lives of all Americans.

    I too am guilty of what I just wrote. However as of yesterday, before I post anything on any of these boards the first thing I do is send an email to my U.S. Senators and Representative. I don't care if they are Republican or Democrat. I want them to know how I feels about all the B/S coming out of Washington. I also send emails to the President and Vice-President. I don't use some of those sites that send emails for you. I want all of them to know that I as individual can speak for myself. I want all of them to know what I as an individual want them to do. And I plan to send them all emails daily. I want them to know I will find to time in my life to let them know daily what I think.

    I don't need AARP to speak for me which I am a member. I don't need the NRA to speak for me which I am a member. I don't need NCOA to speak for me which I am a member. I don't need Oathkeepers to speak for which I am a member. And I can continue. Each and every one of you on these boards need to do the same. If Washington starts getting emails daily from the American people things will change. Coming voting time if everyone stops believing that their vote don't count and go vote things will change. Let's get rid of the electoral college. Let's let the people votes mean something.

    So to everyone posting unless you are doing the same, then your comments on these boards will result in nothing changing in Washington. Your name calling and rants will not change anything. It might make you feel good but it will not change a thing.

    I want both side to stop showing us how well they can twist the words of the English language to hide the facts. Put the facts out and I mean all the facts not just what supports their agenda.

    I want a standalone amendment to the Constitution that make it the law that Congress and the Presidents pay is voted on by the people. They should not be able to give themselves pay raises when neither side is getting anything done. The proposal that only side not get paid is B/S. Neither the House, Senate and President gets paid if there is not budget.

    Last but not least, everyone needs to understand that according to the Constitution, which a lot of posters want use to support their positions, the House is task with coming up with a budget. They must be willing to compromise with the Senate and the President in order to get one put in place. And so must the Senate and the President be will to compromise. This our way or no way is not helping the American people. Compromise is not a bad thing.

    Semper Fi

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    Reply#6 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:24 AM EST

    Rand Paul is a nut plain and simple. The media is still trying to make Jindal a brainy policy wonk, he's like all the other wonk's the media has tried to make on the GOP side, he makes the media look as dumb as he is.

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    Reply#7 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:25 AM EST

    "We've got a lot of work to do. We've got to get the Republican Party back on track."

    Payush (Bobby) Jindal says the obvious. They won't do that, however, unless they move more toward the center and drop some of their extreme ideas. It is fine to be conservative or liberal but not to extremes. Like all things there should be moderation.

    To save the Republican party from the doom it is heading toward they must dump the tea party, learn to compromise, and move toward the center. No one expects them to be as liberal as Teddy Roosevelt but they could return to the level of Eisenhower. That may seem retro and they love retro but the overall attitude and methods of the once grand old party can be back to the time of Ike but with more foreward thinking. Without going foreward they will meet the same fate as the Federalist and Whig parties before them.

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