Jindal to warn fellow Republicans of 'obsession' with D.C. battles

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- As Republicans gather in Charlotte to take stock of their party's brand this week, one of their potential standard-bearers is advising them to turn their attention away from an "obsession with government bookkeeping" in Washington D.C.

"Today’s conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget, the burgeoning deficits, the mammoth federal debt, the shortfall in our entitlement programs,"  Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will say at tonight's keynote dinner at the Republican National Committee's Winter Meeting, according to an advance copy of remarks obtained by NBC News.

"We as Republicans have to accept that government number crunching – even conservative number crunching – is not the answer to our nation’s problems,” he will say.

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Jindal, frequently discussed as a possible 2016 presidential nominee for the GOP, will make the argument that Republican concern about constraining a bulging federal government -- signified to their base by President Barack Obama -- misses the point of growing the economy outside the Beltway.

"The Republican Party must become the party of growth, the party of a prosperous future that is based in our economic growth and opportunity that is based in every community in this great country and that is not based in Washington, DC," he will say.

J. Scott Applewhite / AP

Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana addresses activists from America's political right at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in this file photo.

The Louisiana governor's remarks come as Republicans in Congress have been struggling to out-manuever Obama on tactical measures related to spending, taxes and the debt ceiling. While the party has extracted some concessions from the White House as a result of the wrangling, consultants and elected officials alike fret that a focus on fighting the president looks more like stubborn obstruction than conservative valor to a weary public.

Jindal -- who is Indian-American, Catholic and just 41 years old -- has gained national fame in part by defying stereotypes about how a southern Republican governor looks and sounds. The party's efforts to expand its appeal beyond white men and the south top the Charlotte agenda.

Jindal is expected to speak tonight at around 7 p.m. ET. 

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Speaking of Bobby Bo Jingles - why no mention of him instituting those dreaded "death panels" Arctic Spice was raving about?

Tania Dall / Eyewitness News

NEW ORLEANS -- Starting Feb. 1 Louisiana will stop offering hospice care services to most patients on medicaid.

The Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals is eliminating the service to families in the state due to state budget cuts.

Critics are up in arms

The Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals say the elimination of hospice care for medicaid patients will mean nearly $3.3 million in savings this year alone. In 2014, it'll mean $8.3 million in savings

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#1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:37 AM EST

He will be called a RINO in 3....2.....1..

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#1.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:41 AM EST

They should be the one to offer solutions, they are the ones that created the mess in the first place. Bill Clinton had this country turned around from the dark days of Reagan, and Bush turn its back and the borrow and spend politics returned to double the debt. Now with Obama trying to fix the mess he made all republicans can do is play politics and obstruct. 2014 cannot come soon enough to send the rest of the tea bags packing and restore at least some value to our federal government.

  • 27 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:42 AM EST

Alan Greyson was right when he said the GNOP's answer to health care is; "If you get sick... die QUICKLY"!

  • 24 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:47 AM EST

Medic-aid cuts disgust me.....Any cuts to the Gov's health plan? I don't think so.

  • 19 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:48 AM EST

Please republicans ride this Jindal horse all the way to the republican nomination. Just what the republicans need, another right to life murderer. Another republican motto "you have a right to life till you're born, then us republicans will find a way to murder you to save tax dollars to give to the rich". What the republican are actually saying is you have a right to be born, not a right to live, of course unless you are born rich.

  • 25 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:53 AM EST

The rats are jumping off the ship of fools. Unfortunately rats can swim.

  • 19 votes
#1.6 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:54 AM EST

The rats are jumping off the ship of fools. Unfortunately rats can swim.

Sort of like this Presidents Cabinet members huh BCWC?

  • 8 votes
#1.7 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:14 AM EST

Steve Benen has written a thoughtful article (as always) this morning on John Boehner's use of the words: President Obama wants to annihilate the GOP:

Does Obama hope to defeat Republicans? Obviously, yes. Does he intend to "annihilate" the GOP? Well, no, not really. As best as I can tell, the president would be quite pleased, actually, if the radicalized Republican Party was brought back to the American mainstream, and stood ready to work constructively with other policymakers (i.e., Democrats) on finding solutions to public policy challenges.

If the party is unprepared to do serious work on serious issues, maybe it belongs in "the dustbin of history"?

Of course, arguably the most entertaining aspect of Boehner's complaint is the irony. As we discussed the other day, Republicans spent Obama's first term on a scorched-earth campaign, hoping to destroy his presidency and nearly everything he proposed. GOP leaders met privately exactly four years ago this to plot their comeback, focusing on obstructing the president wherever possible, and refusing to compromise with Obama on literally anything, even when he embraced Republican ideas.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/01/24/16678758-boehner-obama-intends-to-annihilate-the-gop?lite

  • 24 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:19 AM EST

ozzieyo1-7277359

The rats are jumping off the ship of fools. Unfortunately rats can swim.

Sort of like this Presidents Cabinet members huh BCWC?

But unlike Reagan's who when they jumped landed in jail?

  • 19 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:26 AM EST

What is so hard to face are the journalists and pundits in our country, who were not brought up in the south, who were not brought up in Jim Crow south, who were not brought up in the north v. south BS, who were not brought up in the wild west hero mentality, continue to dismiss all that President Obama is trying to accomplish.

JFK passed the torch to a new generation, and that new generation changed the nation. That generation gave us a country unrecognizable to the nation we were in the 1950's.

Yet the pundits/journalists dismiss it all. They truly believe nonprogressives are important to our nation in this the 21st Century.

It's really sad. They are such sell outs to our country and continue to kiss up to an old man white party who want nothing for the citizens.

  • 22 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:26 AM EST

The majority of the commenter's here say it isn't right to cut medical benefits to the needy. Agreed.

They also say that the bush administration caused it. Partially at best.

Then we have Johntho saying the president is trying to fix the budget problems Bush caused. Utter failure to say the least.

The general mood from the far left is wanting to shift all of the economic woes to the GOP. Ridiculous. Most of the Bush years were made up of a democratic controlled Congress that was responsible for the budget that went south with them at the helm.

The far left here are saying that the GOP is evil for wanting to cut care for certain medical programs. They also don't want school budgets cut. They don't want services or agencies cut. But they will happily agree to cut the defense budget. Great! However, that would simple be a drop in the financial bucket to get us where we need to go.

So here is a very simple question to all of the finger pointers here who make all of the snarky comments here everyday: What is your answer to the financial mess this country is in.

If you have the balls to provide a legitimate answer, leave out the political rhetoric and simply provide concrete solutions (i.e.-saying that companies should stop outsourcing jobs isn't an answer. There has to be a reason for a company to not outsource to make it a reality or just saying the GOP should agree with everything the democrats want)

Come on libs, here's your chance to prove to everyone just how intelligent you are. You all seem to be able to tell everyone how people always get things wrong, so you should have no problem telling us how the government can get it right..............................

  • 9 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:38 AM EST

Frist and formost we all need to see a birth certificate from this man. What schools did he go to? What kind of grades did this man get? What were his views as a teenaged? Did he drink, smoke or do drugs? All of these questions need to be answered. His parents came here from India. For we know they could in league with the Muslim Brotherhood. Or who knows what terror cell they could be involved.

  • 19 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:40 AM EST

Things would be so much better, if the supporters of the Republican and Democratic parties disassociated from those parties and work together to form new parties that will answer to Americans on the most important issues.

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:43 AM EST

Sticking it to the poor again--how dare you be poor, how dare you begin the dying process, how dare the families need comfort and help? after all this is Louisiana, where 20% of residents have no insurance or access to health care, 60% of all live births are to single moms, La. ranks along Alabama in Women's and Children's Health care--bottom of the national barrel.

I know all about La., escaped from Covington in 2010 after living there for 11 years, husband in oil and gas industry--no body moves to La. unless they have to. Profound culture shock with the corruption, pollution, burn'em at the stake mentality. New Orleans good for one visit, Madi Gras worth a one time event--after that, pfft!

Didn't that troll Jindal refuse $$ from the feds., for medicaid? Death panels alive and well in the "New South," saving $$ on the dead and dying--perfect red state.

  • 18 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:45 AM EST

The latest Pew Research shows that liberals are less tolerant of opposing points of view. The study finds liberals are far more sensitive about criticism. Liberal columnist Kirsten Powers noted that "Liberals, because they are used to controlling all the media, pretty much, academia, that for them, when they hear things that don't jibe with what they want to hear, it's very disconcerting and unsettling to them." Powers explained that after getting out of her own "Democratic bubble," she noticed that conservatives tend to be more open to hearing opposing viewpoints than liberals."

Seems the results of that polling is pretty much right on when you read threads on this blog. Endless name calling and insults are standard liberal responses.

  • 12 votes
#1.15 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:56 AM EST

inthemiddle-

So here is a very simple question to all of the finger pointers here who make all of the snarky comments here everyday: What is your answer to the financial mess this country is in.

Although I rarely make snarky comments (and only point fingers when necessary), I will try and answer your question.

I think the only path to deficit reduction is via a "three-legged stool" of comprehensive tax reform, targeted spending cuts, and economic growth.

Comprehensive tax reform should include a simplification of the corporate tax code that would result in lower "across the board" rates but fewer exceptions and exemptions. It should also include reforming the personal income tax code to remove some gaping looholes (like the "Carried Interest" rule) that allow investment income to be taxed at a much lower rate than earned income.

Targeted spending cuts should include a reduction in military spending that can be achieved by ending the current conflict in Afghanistan, limiting our overall footprint internationally, and implementing "tighter" controls on new weapons system purchases. Healthcare spending has to be controlled, in part by removing some of the restriction on the Medicare Prescription Plan.

Economic growth will solve a lot of problems, both through both increased tax revenue and lower expenditures on government assistance programs like unemployment, food stamps, and welfare.

I think a bipartisan approach that incorporate these three things would go a long way towards reducing our deficit.

  • 20 votes
#1.16 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:02 AM EST

Not bad.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:02 AM EST

Lil Jingles is true to the TeaPeoples stance: "Pro Birth"........NOT Pro-Life.

You're on your own, literally, as soon as you take that first breath and until you take your last!

bye, bye.......

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:08 AM EST

Rick, please explain to me that defunding Hospice Care for the dying, Medicaid patients, is worthy of a different point of view, other than its is flat out wrong--rich folks obviously don't need financial help and again its the poor and their families will shoulder the burden and care for terminal. Your argument is worthless in Human terms. Personally I do not give a rats patoot whatever this Powers person deems as some sort of liberal attitude problem--she can stay in the GOP Bubble of callus disregard for the least of ours.

  • 13 votes
#1.19 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:08 AM EST

tnsevol 1.16 Good post! I would like to add some cuts in the farm bill would help also. What you posted makes sense.

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:12 AM EST

Most of the Bush years were made up of a democratic controlled Congress that was responsible for the budget that went south with them at the helm.

inthemiddle12

You may want to look this up because you are incorrect in the above statement.

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:25 AM EST

You may want to look this up because you are incorrect in the above statement

More fuzzy math from the right wing nuts!

All of a sudden, 2 is larger than 6!

  • 13 votes
#1.22 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:32 AM EST

Priceless - another summit to discuss more four-letter words the GOP/TP dareth not speaketh.

  • 9 votes
#1.23 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:36 AM EST

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Alan Greyson was right when he said the GNOP's answer to health care is; "If you get sick... die QUICKLY"!

who said that we ALL have access to healthcare because we can use the ER when we get sick while not having health insurance?? I cannot remember the name....Ra..Ro... something like that. Anyone remember the name?

  • 9 votes
#1.24 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:50 AM EST

Most of the Bush years were made up of a democratic controlled Congress that was responsible for the budget that went south with them at the helm.

what? Can you show us those "most" Bush years with Dem Congress?

  • 8 votes
#1.25 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:52 AM EST

ITM12 posts that:

Most of the Bush years were made up of a democratic controlled Congress that was responsible for the budget that went south with them at the helm.

Really?

Just what/where is this Bush budget of which you speak?

Dubya never funded anything, just spent the country into record deficits. Wars, tax cuts, Medicare part D, etc.......

Dubya never met a spending bill he didn't like.......8 years without a budget!

  • 10 votes
#1.26 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:55 AM EST

All: Rick has been posting the same msg over and over on every vine here. He is forgetting to mention it was about a social media survey, not a general survey. Nothing like hunt and peck, Rick!

  • 10 votes
#1.27 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:00 PM EST

Gilboagirl . . .

Nothing like hunt and peck, Rick!

He's so like the current GOP - searching for a fan base and really doesn't care what he throws at the wall, he just hopes something will eventually stick. Poor little Rick!

  • 10 votes
#1.28 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:13 PM EST

inthemiddle12

The general mood from the far left is wanting to shift all of the economic woes to the GOP. Ridiculous. Most of the Bush years were made up of a democratic controlled Congress that was responsible for the budget that went south with them at the helm.

inthemiddle12

The main problem with Republicans is the complete detachment from reality. You believe anything that you are told to believe like a mindless sheep.

You must get your information from Fox News, an network that has a history of repeated deliberate lies.

The Republican Party kept control of both the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate until 2007. The Democratic Party wrested control of both houses of the 110th Congress, although by a very slim margin, especially in the Senate.
The composition of the 109th Congress (2005 - 2007) was as follows:
Senate: 44 D, 55 R House: 202 D, 231 R
The composition of the 110th Congress (2007 - ) is as follows:
Senate: 49 D, 49 R House: 233 D, 198 R

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774721.html

  • 5 votes
#1.29 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:21 PM EST

Arctic Spice thats to funny. I also enjoyed " Misty Boehner" because he cries so much ..

  • 5 votes
#1.30 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:24 PM EST

There comes a time when we (i'm not a Republican BUT) get sick of the Dems constantly bashing the Republican leaders.

The Dems are killing America by allowing the illegal immigrants to take jobs, medical, education, welfare, and homes at little or no cost to them and you continually bash the Republicans.

Really? Have you even asked yourself why it is that when a Dem is in office the Military suffers? NO I'm sure you haven't. Have you ever asked yourself when a Dem is in office why the welfare system seems to grow by leaps and bounds? NO I'm sure you haven't.

One day you will see that there are some people who represent the Republican part (like all of them) that are pretty good people.

Fair is not in the language of the Democrat, you are not fair at how you bash the Republicans while the Dem leaders are trying to destroy America.

  • 5 votes
#1.31 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:25 PM EST

The military suffers because it is a total waste of money ..We never would have had 911 had we not gone elsewhere ! I would rather have social security and medicare then the congress enriching it self by owning the concessions that service a war . A 300.00 hammer excuse meeeeeeeeee!.The no bid contracts are raping America ...and the cost of human life means nothing as long as they make a profit!

  • 10 votes
#1.32 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:31 PM EST

DEAD HEAD FROM ILLONOIS: You are actually right that most of the Bush years were controlled by Dimwhitcraps. Just the last 2 which caused a massive landslide in the economy and barrack obamy was part of that failure. Glad you finally did get one thing right in your little wussie world.

  • 1 vote
#1.33 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:41 PM EST

Debora - you are DEFINITELY a Republican. Have to be to post what is either deliberate lies or just total stupidity. Get a clue. Republicans determined it was more important for them to get the White House back than to help the country. Funny thing is - intelligent people saw through them and they lost - yet again!

Let me see if I can explain a couple of things for an idiot like you! First our military is WAY too big and even the Pentagon says we are building things for them they don't need and won't use. Get a clue!

2nd - people on welfare are higher because Bush killed the economy and we bled jobs the last few years he was in office. The United States, unlike other countries, chooses not to let people starve or die on the street (sorry we won't let you have your way) so we have a system that helps people. As we add more jobs those numbers will decrease. Of course, if the Republicans in Congress continue to table every jobs bill the President sends in that will be harder. Still reading, stupid????

The Democrats have been the party trying to save the country while Republicans have signed an oath to Grover Norquist that supercedes their oath to their constituents. Can you say TREASON, stupid?

You really need to stop listening to Hannity and Beck because your are losing brain cells even as I type. Are you really so ignorant you believe a word of the lies you've posted?

And, if you had an intelligence you'd see that Democrats are always the ones having to fix the mess left by Republicans.

You prove that there is NOT AN OUNCE OF SANITY REQUIRED TO BE A REPUBLICAN!

Pat- wrong. Yet another mentally ill Republican rears their head!

  • 10 votes
#1.34 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:43 PM EST

Debora-389330

There comes a time when we (i'm not a Republican BUT

anyone who has to ensure others he/she is NOT something or IS something is full of crap....

"I'm not a crook" - Richard Nixon

  • 8 votes
#1.35 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:43 PM EST

Debora - oh, and you cannot say "Republican" and "leaders" in the same sentence because there is NO SUCH THING!

  • 6 votes
#1.36 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:58 PM EST

Have you even asked yourself why it is that when a Dem is in office the Military suffers?

Can you name the suffering that went on under Obama that didn't go on under Bush?

  • 6 votes
#1.37 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:59 PM EST

"I'm not a crook" - Richard Nixon

Clean up on Feisty's laptop! lmao!

PS: Check your e-mail Bayllie - there should be an invite pending...

  • 4 votes
#1.38 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:11 PM EST

In palm springs haven't you heard 911 Was an inside job, and I promise you that when the army protects your sorry butt from someone attacking you, you will change your tune.

SS you are a joke. you have no clue what I believe or think. I am not affiliate because I think the parties are wrong. They are all out for themselves; however, if I had to belong to a group it would be the Republicans because the Dems are dumb.

Yes jobs - A lot of the military going downrange do not have the proper gear they need. They do not get re-enlistment bonuses under the dems. They didn't get a raise until this year and then at that it will not even be 2%. People give their very lives to live on welfare taking care of America.

When the dems are in office way to many military end up on welfare because they stop the raises and don't hand out the re-enlistment bonuses.

  • 1 vote
#1.39 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:44 PM EST

The childish rants abound!

All I ever see from the loons on this site are personal attacks on ANYONE the does not recite their loony talking points.

This is a virtual 7th grade classroom... with all the 'mean girls' throwing barbs at everyone else.

Will you people EVER grow up? Until you do, intelligent discuss with you will be impossible.

:O(

  • 4 votes
#1.40 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:45 PM EST

SickOfTheBickering

This is a virtual 7th grade classroom...

says the person whose avatar doesn't even make historical sense

  • 4 votes
#1.41 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:40 PM EST

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Clean up on Feisty's laptop! lmao!

sorry 'bout that

PS: Check your e-mail Bayllie - there should be an invite pending...

I got nothing.

  • 2 votes
#1.42 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:42 PM EST

Yes jobs - A lot of the military going downrange do not have the proper gear they need. They do not get re-enlistment bonuses under the dems. They didn't get a raise until this year and then at that it will not even be 2%.

So, are you saying that this never went on under Bush? Do you remember troops begging Rumsfeld for body armor? Do you remember the back door draft in which solders who had been out of the service for years were forced back? What kind of raise did the troops get under Bush, and who bought in all of the private contractors and paid them 5 times the amount more than the troops?

I thinks you should study some more, because clearly you don't know the facts!!!

  • 3 votes
#1.43 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:59 PM EST

The election is over, the inauguration done. The public wanted Obama, so we got Obama.

Many of the House GOTP come from extremely conservative districts, and they hold no future aspirations politically. They know they will not pay a political price for their antics, so they are free to try to burn down our government.

Jindal wants a future in politics, so he still cares how his party is perceived. He knows the public sees them as the problem, not the solution. As he said soon after the election, he does not want his party to be seen as the party of stupid. That was a ballsy statement, considering. Now he is asking the extremists in his party to back off these endless fights over the budget.

He may not believe these things. He may just be saying them because he feels constrained politically to take these positions. But at least he understands the political reality he faces, and has the grace to moderate his positions to reflect the national mood. I, for one, welcome his statements, and hope the House radicals will be swayed by them.

  • 2 votes
#1.44 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:09 PM EST

Hey! If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be DEBORA, a died in the wool Tea Party Republican.

  • 1 vote
#1.45 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:50 AM EST
Reply

Jindal has a point. He thinks government should be about solving problems. He doesn't put his whole faith in free markets to solve everything.

Oh, my God! Is Jindal a Democrat?

  • 16 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:44 AM EST

See comment 1.1

  • 4 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:46 AM EST

RINOS: Republicans In Need of Popular Support

  • 12 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:58 AM EST

He thinks government should be about solving problems.

Amy, I'm pretty sure that is not what he is saying.

  • 2 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:13 AM EST

ozzie . . .

Man it must suck to constantly drink the Fox half-empty glass on a daily basis. At least liberals have hope! You're committed to the bottom of the barrel.

  • 13 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:22 AM EST

ozzieyo1-7277359

Amy, I'm pretty sure that is not what he is saying.

Ozzy, I am yet to be convinced that you know what you are saying let alone the veracity of any of it.

  • 11 votes
#2.5 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:30 AM EST

No Amy, republicans in need of any support.

  • 6 votes
#2.6 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:51 AM EST

Today's Republican Party is too extreme, and they as a party need to start cleaning house in order to restore themselves back to a party that can be respected once again.

  • 7 votes
#2.7 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:57 AM EST

Barack Goldwater...oh yeah, Barry Goldwater threw the crazy john birchers out of the GOP once before, but since then the Ryan family has welcomed them (the john birchers) back again and doubled down on stupid with the Beck and Limpbah crowd.

RIP GOP. Remember, the GOP gave its life for the betterment of America.

    #2.8 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:55 AM EST

    Funny thing is - intelligent people saw through them and they lost - yet again!

    Not funny-We all lost!!

      #2.9 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:22 AM EST
      Reply

      Yep the repub party once they get to Washington DC they only care what goes on there. They don't even think twice about the people that put them there, they are too busy kissing the a@@ of the upper crust of DC and the lobbyist who will keep them there working a few days a year, wining and dining and traveling on other people dimes. Their goals are to make sure nothing gets done while blaming the other side. Soon they will be extinct because of their biased racist ego driven ways will do themselves in.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#3 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:29 AM EST

      Dont you think that's true of politicians in general? Or are the republicans the only ones guilty of your claim??

      • 7 votes
      #3.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:39 AM EST

      Actually the GOP is for a smaller government so it can fit up womens vaginas.

        #3.2 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:57 AM EST
        Reply

        I'm sorry, I haven't been able to take Jindal seriously since he made fun of volcano monitoring followed by Alaska's Mt Redoubt eruption.

        Reminds me of a certain President who made fun of a briefing that mentioned a possible attack by Al Queda.

        • 14 votes
        Reply#4 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:36 AM EST

        Would that be the 4-letter B_word they dare not speak?

        • 9 votes
        #4.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:41 AM EST

        Also reminds me of a president that took us to war on the suspicion of WMD.

          #4.2 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:58 AM EST
          Reply

          BrainiacV - oh, the one we cannot mention by name? The one that never comes out in the sunlight but is relegated to walking in the shadows so he isn't seen. The one that Republicans deny ever existed? Oh, that one!

          • 9 votes
          Reply#5 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:54 AM EST

          The Republicans need to do something besides say no. They're out of touch with Hispanics, Blacks and most of everyone else. The majority of the country wants to see us getting something done about a whole range of issues. Gridlock won't get it. Extreme polarity in either party is a detriment to progress. Negotiation, and compromise are what make this country great, not total dysfunction.

          • 7 votes
          Reply#6 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:57 AM EST

          The RETEAUGS are trying to put up a different look, while still holding onto the "good ole-boy base", trying to put lipstick on the pig.

          • 3 votes
          #6.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:08 PM EST
          Reply

          jindal will be in the GOP circus primary in 2016.....wonder how many GOP clowns they will get in the clown car in 2016?

          • 4 votes
          Reply#7 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:01 AM EST

          42

          • 2 votes
          #7.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:04 AM EST

          The GOP is going to try and take the 2016 Election by changing the Electoral College rules in the swing states. Support a mandate for our country that allows for the poular vote to determine our next President. The party of constitutional rights will soon show there true colors....mark my words!

            #7.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:27 PM EST

            When Christie crawls into the GOP clown car there won't be room for anyone else.

              #7.3 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:59 AM EST
              Reply

              The days of the GOP as a relevant party are numbered...

              • 6 votes
              Reply#8 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:06 AM EST

              They are going to re-brand. They will be the Whig party starting in 2014. We can call them Whiggers.

              • 4 votes
              #8.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:08 AM EST

              Flam: How about Whiggies? Wiggers makes them sound somewhat relevant.

              • 2 votes
              #8.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:05 PM EST

              Whigouts?

                #8.3 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:00 AM EST
                Reply

                Bobby wishes that every state could be like Louisiana.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:12 AM EST

                Polluted????

                • 2 votes
                #9.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:06 PM EST

                Poor? Backward? Corrupt?

                  #9.2 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:01 AM EST
                  Reply

                  TNSEVOL: a very well thought out plan. Congratulations to you for providing a legitimate approach to answering my question. I applaud you. Too bad others didn't accept my invitation.

                  Part of your solution is exactly what this country needs but far too many don't want: bipartisan workmanship.

                  People like Feisty and many others on both sides would rather continue to divide the country through liberal/conservative thought as far left/right as possible. I believe that everyone should be able to see that this approach simply doesn't work. It may work to get people elected to office, but it doesn't have a rational solution to our problems. The only people I can see agreeing that we should elect only people from one party or another are those who actually work for a political party to further push their current platforms.

                  What we need is to eliminate much of the partisan politics from the far left/right and meet closer to the middle so that our government will provide a better life for everyone.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#10 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:20 AM EST

                  People like Feisty and many others on both sides would rather continue to divide the country through liberal/conservative thought as far left/right as possible.

                  Interesting how you single me out on divisive commentary ,when YOU wrote this only last week!

                  Stuff you holier than thou attitude. there is plenty more where this one came from!

                  inthemiddle12

                  There is one reason and one reason only for Obama and his minions of Left Wing Lunatics wanting to abolish assault weapons and the magazines that go with them.
                  The reason should be obvious to everyone and probably is, but the LWNJ's don't want people looking at it.

                  At least I'm not bi-polar!

                  Don't like what I have to say DON'T READ IT!

                  I'm sick & tired of hypocrites like YOU bitching when you have to option to IGNORE my comments!

                  Good Day!

                  • 16 votes
                  #10.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:28 AM EST

                  Oh, snap!

                  • 6 votes
                  #10.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:36 AM EST

                  Double *snap*, Feisty!

                  I wonder if this is the same ITM from a year or more ago......posting nothing but nonsense!

                  • 7 votes
                  #10.3 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:02 PM EST

                  TNSEVOL very good post. inthemiddle12 agree with you
                  both
                  .

                  My concern is
                  all the lobbyists and ungodly amounts of money floating through the Washington beltway.
                  Let's face it, at some point in time, any successful politician has had to
                  compromise his beliefs at on time or another. Compromise is a slippery slope
                  especially when you look at the amount of money it takes to get elected.

                  So when
                  everyone agrees that "What we need
                  is to eliminate much of the partisan politics from the far left/right and meet
                  closer to the middle so that our government will provide a better life for
                  everyone.
                  " I have to ask just who are our leaders in Washington really serving? The people that
                  voted them in or the so many unnamed donors that gave millions to the PACTS of
                  both parties?

                  • 2 votes
                  #10.4 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:15 PM EST

                  Way to go Feisty! Do these idiots not understand that it takes but a click or two to visit their Vine pages and see what they've posted and when they (in some cases) re-registered?

                  Speaks VOLUMES about the intelligence of some of the posters here . . .

                  • 5 votes
                  #10.5 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:15 PM EST
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                  Good luck Bobby you're not a white guy, so the chance repub leaders will listen to you is nil. Go help Huntsman, Johnson and Powell start that new party, that is the only chance for moderate repubs.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#11 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:21 AM EST

                  Get a job with Dominoes.

                    #11.1 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:01 AM EST
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                    Every time Republicans open their mouth about the debt they risk having to explain why they didn't use the Clinton budget surplus to reduce the debt, as well as why they rescinded pay-go legislation that H.W Bush signed into law to help curb the debt. Not to mention paying for 2 wars on the credit card.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#12 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:35 AM EST

                    I would start by "dropping all the extraordinary perks" that Congress, Senators, and Representatives receive.

                    Starting with Health care, Social Security, as well as "unbelievable retirement benefits!!!!!

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#13 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:38 AM EST

                    What I find so funny about all these posts it that the right is trying to support the lies of the Republicans and the left is trying to support the lies of the Democrats. Until everyone on these board and other boards are willing to be just as hard on their own party as they are on the other party nothing will ever change in Washington. Washington knows that if they keep the American population arguing against each other that they will be able to get away with any and everything.

                    We the people are allowing ourselves to be lied to by both sides. And we try and support those lies. No one wants to step up and call everyone in Washington a liar. Which they all are.

                    Until we all start holding everyone in Washington accountable nothing will change. Until we all start telling the side we support to come clean nothing will change. Until we all start telling the side we support to stop playing politics with our lives nothing will change.

                    Call me names, try and defend your position. The sad fact is all of you know you can lie to everyone else but you cannot lie to yourself. Look at what you are supporting. Look at the big picture. Then ask yourself how long will you allow the lies from both sides the ruin the lives of all Americans.

                    I too am guilty of what I just wrote. However as of yesterday, before I post anything on any of these boards the first thing I do is send an email to my U.S. Senators and Representative. I don't care if they are Republican or Democrat. I want them to know how I feels about all the B/S coming out of Washington. I also send emails to the President and Vice-President. I don't use some of those sites that send emails for you. I want all of them to know that I as individual can speak for myself. I want all of them to know what I as an individual want them to do. And I plan to send them all emails daily. I want them to know I will find to time in my life to let them know daily what I think.

                    I don't need AARP to speak for me which I am a member. I don't need the NRA to speak for me which I am a member. I don't need NCOA to speak for me which I am a member. I don't need Oathkeepers to speak for which I am a member. And I can continue. Each and every one of you on these boards need to do the same. If Washington starts getting emails daily from the American people things will change. Coming voting time if everyone stops believing that their vote don't count and go vote things will change. Let's get rid of the electoral college. Let's let the people votes mean something.

                    So to everyone posting unless you are doing the same, then your comments on these boards will result in nothing changing in Washington. Your name calling and rants will not change anything. It might make you feel good but it will not change a thing.

                    I want both side to stop showing us how well they can twist the words of the English language to hide the facts. Put the facts out and I mean all the facts not just what supports their agenda.

                    I want a standalone amendment to the Constitution that make it the law that Congress and the Presidents pay is voted on by the people. They should not be able to give themselves pay raises when neither side is getting anything done. The proposal that only side not get paid is B/S. Neither the House, Senate and President gets paid if there is not budget.

                    Last but not least, everyone needs to understand that according to the Constitution, which a lot of posters want use to support their positions, the House is task with coming up with a budget. They must be willing to compromise with the Senate and the President in order to get one put in place. And so must the Senate and the President be will to compromise. This our way or no way is not helping the American people. Compromise is not a bad thing.

                    Semper Fi

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#14 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:52 AM EST

                    Ret_MSgt

                    I was a drafted US Army Spec 4. No matter the branch of service, it is always best to listen to the NCO's. You said it loud and CLEAR and I could not agree more.

                    People read the Constitution and then read several of the history books out there that describe the compromises that went into this very rare document granting freedom and liberty to a whole nation.

                    • 2 votes
                    #14.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:50 PM EST

                    Couldn't have said it any better.....Great post MSgt.

                      #14.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:18 PM EST

                      Great dream MSgt, if that is what you are. Too bad the Tea Baggers were voted in on an obstructionist platform, and perpetuated the GOP war on women.

                      • 1 vote
                      #14.3 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:04 AM EST
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                      The Republicans should be careful in listening to Jindal. He is an air head.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#15 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:56 AM EST

                      You're too kind!

                      • 4 votes
                      #15.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:00 PM EST

                      But being an airhead puts him politically heads and tails above the average GOP.

                      • 1 vote
                      #15.2 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:05 AM EST
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                      "The Republican Party must become the party of growth, the party of a prosperous future that is based in our economic growth and opportunity that is based in every community in this great country and that is not based in Washington, DC," he will say.

                      The Republican Party has created a recession every time their economic policies have been implemented. They just got through taking a balanced budget, a budget surplus and a thriving economy and turning it into the worst economic disaster in nearly 100 years.

                      Then they did intentional damage to the country in a failed attempt to unseat Obama.

                      Only a moron would trust these hideous, dishonest failures.

                      • 4 votes
                      Reply#16 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:00 PM EST

                      A politician from the most corrupt, polluted, educationally backward state in the country! Sure, that's what the GOP needs. More window dressing, just don't look behind the curtain.

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#17 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:02 PM EST

                      The real problem that Republican have is that they let everyone know that they are bigoted tools of the wealthy, willing to damage the country to get their way and completely detached from reality.

                      Their only hope is to hide their true intentions until they are elected. Then they can act like the have in Virginia, Wisconsin and Michigan.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#18 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:07 PM EST

                      Yeah ! JINKIE JINDLE All you GOP want is power in your parties of SELF and GREED. Please spare the American citizen all this NEW GOP CRAP STUFF and just GET OUT of Governing. That is the problem YOU PARTIES DO NOT GOVERN FOR THE PEOPLE, YOU GOVERN FOR YOURSELVES. You could care less about THE CITIZENS and THEIR WELFARE !!!!!!

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#19 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:21 PM EST

                      The Republican Party needs to step and look at what they are projecting to the voters, assess their goals, and make BIG changes. This is America not just the wealthy 1% but the 99% middle and lower class. They need to stop listening to the Koch's and all the political groups they have created which spawned the Tea Party and split the Republican Party. The Koch's are aiming to destroy America and doing a good job of it. Social Security and Medicare are NOT entitlement programs, we have all paid for the programs, along with our employers ,so stop trying to "privatize", or in other words take OUR money and put it in YOUR pockets.

                      The Republican party has not talked about what they want for the people, their goal is only to defeat the Democrats in the next election. There are a few dedicated Republicans in the party who are looked down upon because they want what is right for the people, not just the wealthy. When life-long Republicans begin voting for a Democrat because he/she wants what is right for the people, then it is time to stand back and evaluate the party's morals and ethics. Until the party can present a candidate 'for the people' they will continue to walk away in defeat.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#20 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:27 PM EST

                      Majick-1

                      I am a moderate republican that is now called a Democrat. Guess you could call me a Colin Powell Republican.

                      This is not the party of my parents that is for sure and I get very amused when they call it the Party of Lincoln...talk about limiting states rights.

                      • 2 votes
                      #20.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:10 PM EST

                      The Democrats have done a great job of saying often enough that the GOP is extreme. Say the same lie over enough and people will believe it. The only power the House has is to block what comes their way. No matter how you look at it, the Republicans hold the House and probably will through the President's second term. They hold the house thanks to on of the biggest swings in history which was a referendum against the President. Almost half the country voted against Obama yet you wouldn't know it based on what the Democrats seem to believe.

                        #20.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:36 PM EST

                        P Hawk,

                        Hmmm.....have you been asleep P.Hawk? Didn't President Obama just win with a substantial margin?

                        You need to stop listening to Fox News and Rush. Go to an independent source for information, like the Congressional Record. You have the right to your opinion, you do not have the right to your own facts.

                        The notion that Republicans have not become extremists is preposterous. As an example the Affordable Health Care Act, which Republicans have called Communism, Socialism, Kill Grandma, Death Panels and other names was originally proposed by Republicans during the Clinton Administration.

                        By any measure today's Republicans are Far Right Extremists.

                        • 1 vote
                        #20.3 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:33 PM EST

                        P. Hawk, hawking the same GOP, Beck, Limpbah, Fox lies that the American voters rejected in 2012. Get wise. Get educated. Get off drugs and stay in school P. Hawk.

                          #20.4 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:08 AM EST
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                          Jindal? Wow. I see he's still out there. Very much relieved to see he finally extricated himself from those hurricane sand walls.

                          TGOP? Aw, let the TGOP be TGOP.

                            Reply#21 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:07 PM EST

                            Well I vote for the president as I'm a independent and did not trust Romney but if you are not anti gun then I would vote for you

                              Reply#22 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:44 PM EST

                              Here is what Jindal wants to say:

                              "Let Democrats defend assistance to the individual through safety net programs. Let's give them medicare and Obamacare--the law of the land."

                              Republicans will focus on assistance to economic growth. We will be the party pushing for tax reform, infrastructure investment, trade policy, energy policy, research and development and immigration--anything that contributes to economic growth.

                              We will step a way from cultural issues and let individuals decide who they will marry, and what they do in the bedroom and how many kids they will have and when. We will ensure that people have the freedom and security to pray or not pray to whomever they want."

                              Economic growth is more than just tax cuts, debt and deficits. Jindal is on the right track.

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#23 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:05 PM EST

                              See post 1.1

                                #23.1 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:10 AM EST
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                                Lincoln would NEVER be in the Republican Party of today he is too Middle of the road for this party. This party will never come to the middle, so there is only one thing to do, split the Republican party and make another party that will cause as much chaos as possible.

                                  Reply#24 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:59 PM EST

                                  Lincoln thought labor was superior to capital since it takes labor to create capital.

                                  This is something that todays GOP has forgotten (conveniently)

                                  The GOP profess that it takes capital to create labor. Talk about the cart before the horse.

                                    #24.1 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:20 AM EST
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                                    hey fiesty redhead do you have an actual job or are you part of the demorat 47% that lives off the hard work of productive people. the republicans i hope are learning the ways of corruption from a master,good old obozo. then they can formulate las that will throw crooks like him under the prison. the first cut i would make is the earned income tax credit.

                                      Reply#25 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:32 PM EST

                                      Jindah's name never comes up on this vine when the teabaggers talk about a candidate for 2016. He has no shot. He is not a classic white male christian so the GNOP would never nominate him - never.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #25.1 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                      75th - Fiesty does not feed trolls.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #25.2 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:52 PM EST

                                      Fiesty does not feed trolls.

                                      Thanks Martin!

                                      Best to starve them until they shrivel up and blow away! ☺

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #25.3 - Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:13 PM EST

                                      The can't shrivel up and blow away fast enough.

                                        #25.4 - Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:21 AM EST
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