That was it? That was Republicans laying open the Benghazi cover-up, the conspiracy of silence, the tangled web of lies? If the terrorists who attacked the diplomatic quarters in Benghazi were as inept as the Republican inquisitors, there would have been no inquiry. They would have shot themselves instead of the Ambassador and three other Americans. It was as though McCain, Johnson, and Paul were vying for the gold medal in buffoonery.

Rand Paul, in what must have been a lame attempt at humor, allowed as how if he had been President, he'd have dismissed Secretary Clinton. Rand Paul and the Presidency go together like eggs and steamrollers. This clueless punk with delusions of grandeur speaks of war zones. Does Paul imagine host countries allow massive military escorts to accompany Americans any where and any time they choose?

Ron Johnson put on full display the abject ignorance of the Tea Party adherents. This dolt looks at the destruction in Benghazi and then tells the Secretary that a mere phone call would have cleared up all these nagging questions. Did this blithering idiot imagine that there's a full report that's been prepared, even as the facility was under attack? "Sure Senator, let me get back to you with a full report in a few minutes. It's only small arms fire we're facing at the moment. If they come at us with RPG's, we may need a teensy-weensy bit more time."

McCain, a dottering fool who alternates between PTSD and senility was screaming at clouds. He just wasn't satisfied with the answers of the Secretary. No matter that anyone who has followed this right-wing circus knows that McCain has every bit of information he needs. Maybe he needs to be reminded that he was part of the Keating Five that managed to ignore the S & L meltdown. Maybe he needs to be reminded of his connection to Jack Abramoff. Maybe he needs to be reminded he couldn't be bothered to go to a briefing on the specifics of what happened at Benghazi. Maybe we need to understand that being locked up as a P.O.W. does NOT make one an expert on foreign policy.

The right-wing has already begun its daily hate fest. "Did you hear the Secretary say, 'What does it matter?' I'm outraged that she could be so cavalier."

Let's put that in context. What does it matter that these fools put their ignorance on display out of spite or out of partisan hatred? It doesn't matter. They did it. It happened. Now we have to find a solution, just like we need a solution to meeting the dangers our diplomatic corps faces in high-tension areas. Fortunately, we have the luxury of solving our problem with the likes of Paul, McCain, and Johnson at the polls. The Secretary's job isn't so simple.

It is this kind of embarrassing public display that shows the moral bankruptcy of the Republican Party. Boehner complains that the White House is trying to annihilate his party. Speaker Boehner, that's outright BS. You and your fellow hacks are annihilating yourselves.

First time unemployment claims drop 5,000 to a 5 year low (Jan 2008)

DOW closes at the highest level since October 2007

In a diary this morning on DailyKos, the author pointed out this BS from Politico:

In this light, it's worth pondering: How will Barack Obama's supremely self-confident second inaugural address — with its high quotient of self-regard and minimally concealed contempt for opponents — be remembered 10 years from now?

And in answer, DKos wrote:

It was an inaugural address and a second one at that. It was not a concession speech, as much as Politico tried to frame it as such.

I would like to add to what DKos wrote:

The president's concealed contempt, Politico?

Getting things done is hard because the southern white republicans hate any kind of progress. They don't like America. They want their own country and laws. They want to go back to another time and place; do they not care that slaves were beaten? Do they not care that slaves were SOLD, by our Founding Fathers so that they could continue living the high life? We now have people in power who want voter suppression because it's the only way they can win. They want to see black Americans standing in line for 8-10 hours on voting day. They don't want anyone to take away their excessive high living.

We have those in Congress who are literally afraid of their tea party. With no regard to honest hard working Americans. Sell out democrats are no better.

People were beyond pleased with the president's inaugural address. It was a very special day. It is very important for all of the country to witness events like this and see the crowds – not just the number of people, but the many different types of people. It is so easy for the uninformed and the uninvolved to get pulled in by the haters and charlatans who twist and misrepresent the President's positions and the policies he espouses. However, when you see how he reflects the best hopes of so many Americans – and you really can see that in the faces in the crowd – it is much harder to dismiss him.

We the people will continue to dismiss the inside the beltway crowd, who we hold in open contempt, particularly Politico. Where all the white guys hang out who obviously support the president's opponents, who are incompetent, dishonest; who stomp on our democracy and are incapable of working together with President Obama.

knowing nothing good ever comes from pursuing a discussion with a woman having a hissy fit, especially in a public forum.

Ah, sexism at it finest. Rather like that uppity president or that lazy LA mayor. But, but, you say, the GOP hasn't declared a War on Women. How can you have a 'real' war against a bunch of women armed hissy fits?

Now on to eyeglass-gate!! When in doubt, show up as four-eyes, to confuse and addle your opponent.

Joe in Albany

Zip, Zero, Nada, Nothing.

Now why would one respond to someone who eats canned salmon? Keta clue yet?

McCain came off as a crazy old man... Clinton held up well....

if the honeymoon is over it's because the GOP should fear her.... she's a slam dunk to win in 2016 unless they find some type of really well qualified candidate... cause she'll kill Jeb Bush, Ryan, and the like

What I learned yesterday is, the Greedy Old Perverts have reinstated "witch hunts" under the guise of "Senate Hearings"...

It was fun to watch Hillary turn around and roast more then a few of them at the stake!

She doesn't suffer fools lightly - the look on McNasty's face after she handed him his ass was worth the price of admission alone! lol

Gingerbread Mama-

This blatant attempt to suppress the power of the majority in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin is close to becoming a reality in Virginia, where legislation has already been introduced.

Hopefully the public outcry will prevent this nightmare from becoming a reality.

While listening yesterday to Rep. Rand Paul claim that Benghazi was the "greatest tragedy since 9/11", I was struck by how little the current crop of Republicans and Republican posters seem to know about history.

To say that "Benghazi was the greatest tragedy since 9/11" blatantly ignores such events as the Iraq War, the War in Afghanistan, Hurricane Katrina, Superstorm Sandy, and the Sandy Hook murders.

The Republicans yesterday also seemed to forget the other tragedies that have occured in recent memory - the Iran hostage crisis, the bombing of embassy in Beirut, the attacks on our embassies in Africa, the 9/11 assault on the World Trade Center.

Then again, Republicans including GW Bush used 9/11 for political gain before the dust even settled, so why am I surpised that they would try and use Benghazi to score political points?

The Republican president of Ohio's education board compared Obama to Hitler on her Facebook page, and posted a picture of Hitler and a quote: “Never forget what this tyrant said: ‘To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.’ -- Adolf Hitler.”

Although this quote is widely repeated by Republicans, there is no actual record of Hitler ever saying or writing these words. Also contrary to popular Republican belief, Hitler and the Nazis DID NOT pass restrictive gun control laws or confiscate guns to consolidate their power and rule Germany.

The average German citizen was allowed to own firearms under Hitler, and the restrictions placed on Jews and other political enemies ogf the Nazis were not passed until after they had already been in power for years.

It seems that Republicans not only struggle with math, they also have problems with history. Then again, judging by their statements on "legitimate rape" and other women's issues maybe they just have an issue with facts in general.

My Father’s Hunting Trip

From the article above:

Also today, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) introduces her assault-weapons ban in Congress. There’s also a Senate hearing on mental health and gun violence at 10:00 am ET before the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. And yesterday, the White House announced that Vice President Biden and Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) will travel to Richmond, VA to discuss gun violence.

I have fired a gun once in my life. It was a target rifle. I was thirteen years old. I hit the target and earned a merit badge which allowed me to become a Tenderfoot in the Boy Scouts of America.

Tenderfoot was the highest rank I achieved. I knew what my limitations were and America’s better off for it (think Bill Murray in ‘Stripes’). Anyways, it was ok because by age fourteen my sister had introduced me to pot (mid-70’s, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Johnny Carson, etc.)

I love the story my father use to tell me about his one-day hunting trip with his father. When he was thirteen (1938), my dad’s dad took him and a couple other dads’ and their son’s on a hunting trip.

They were hunting duck, or geese, or whatever was flying that day, I can’t remember. But they were all walking in a straight line, step by step, four dad’s and four sons, across a field, with rifles ready, trying to flush out the birds nibbling on seeds.

Then suddenly, the birds took to the sky in a thunderous flurry. My grandfather says, “Ok son, follow a bird with your site. Ready, Ready, Ready, No, NO, NOOO!!!

No one got hurt.

My father was at the end of the line. His dad, and the other dads and sons were stretched out down the line. When my dad first lined up a bird, his aim was perpendicular to the line. As the birds flew away, my dad focused on the birds, and in doing so, slowly pivoted 90 degrees until his gun barrel was pointing down the line.

That’s when my grandfather, my dad’s dad, yelled No, No, No, and saved the day. My dad never went hunting again. He was fine with that. He knew his limitations.

Even though we have the freedom, my dad and I are living examples of two hard working Middle Class Americans, who should never own a gun.

We now interrupt this program to bring you the following message:

To me, it's a good idea to always carry two sacks of something when you walk around. That way, if anybody says, "Hey, can you give me a hand?" - You can say, "Sorry, got these sacks."

Jack Handey – Deep Thoughts

Salud

Oh look! Journalism! Where are the journalists?

America, please pay attention. Someone quoted this from an author yesterday:

real journalism is now considered civil disobedience. It's true.

Our democracy is being stolen. STOLEN.

Think Progress:

Yesterday, Virginia Republicans took the first step to move a GOP plan to rig the Electoral College forward in that state. Similar plans are under consideration in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

The Republican election rigging plan targets blue states that President Obama won in 2008 and 2012, and changes the way they allocate electoral votes to give many of these votes away for free to the Republican candidate for president. Under the Republican Plan, most electoral votes will be allocated to the winner of individual Congressional districts, rather than to the winner of the state as a whole. Because the Republican Plan would be implemented in states that are heavily gerrymandered to favor Republicans, the resulting maps would all but guarantee that the Republican would win a majority of each state’s electoral votes, even if the Democratic candidate wins the state as a whole.

Today, the Center for American Progress Action Fund released a white paper detailing how this Republican election-rigging plan works — including this rather striking visual demonstration of just how effectively Republicans gerrymandered six states that are likely targets of their plan:

GBM, great article and comments by you. Republicans motto should be: Can't beat 'em, cheat 'em. Apparently the GOPTPers do not realize that IF the popular vote far exceeds the opposite electoral results, they would be flirting with voter insurrection; there would be millions in the streets in towns and capitals all over this country. The American people would not stand for it and any GOP President who won by undermining the democratic principles established by our founders, would never, ever be recognized by the people as President. That is a risk the GOPTPers seem willing to take but they do so at their own peril. Reince Priebus, the RNC and ALEC's proposal is nothing short of establishing a perpetual republican dictatorship in every state and in DC; odd that the GOP claims to love the Constitution yet it does everything to destroy the very fabric contained in it. That will not be accepted by the people.

First Read: If confirmed, Kerry would become the eighth secretary of state from Massachusetts . . .

I did not know that.

The Obama dministration claimed that the whole incident was simply a demonstration over an anti-Islamic Youtube video gone wrong. That's what Obama and Hillary told us for nearly two weeks.

We then find out that the entire attack had nothing whatsoever to do with some stupid video that nobody saw. Rather, it was a planned terrorist assault on American personnel and sovereign property. The Obama administration knew exactly what had happened within the next couple of days, yet continued to lie to the American people for another week and a half.

The Navy Seals on location made repeated requests for military support, but were denied and told to stand down. They were murdered on Obama's watch. Obama noted that the result was "not optimal".

The election was too close to tell the truth. The narrative was that terrorism was no longer a problem, and Obama had it under control. They didn't want the voters to see that he was so wrong......so they lied. Simple.

Kirsten Powers is anything but a Liberal Journalist, she is a regular on Fox News and is known for her conservative views and opinions.

She must be in fantasy land to make a claim "Liberals, because they are used to controlling all the media, pretty much, academia, that for them, when they hear things that don't jibe with what they want to hear, it's very disconcerting and unsettling to them" is this her rebuttal, to a recent study that found Fox viewers are the most uninformed? I can see why, when she, Riley, Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh are leading the parade along with all the loud lying microphones from right wing talk radio. I wish we had a better control over some of those airwaves.

The latest Pew Research shows that liberals are less tolerant of opposing points of view.

If you are going to reference a poll, at least tell the entire story vs. the partial picture you paint. This poll looked at the segment of the population that use facebook and other social networking sites to for the purpose of expressing political viewpoints.

So yes, in that context, it is possible that liberals are more likely to unfriend. After all, when a conservative friend posted a picture of an aborted fetus on my facebook page, for all my facebook friends, co-workers, and family to see, I quickly unfriended their sorry ass. Who wants a God damn picture of a bloody aborted fetus next to pictures of my sisters family skiing vacation.

Joe, you are pathetic. You have waited and waited, especially with your obnoxious bated breath, for Hillary to go before Congress and explain herself. Then when she gets there, and slaps the heck out of your boy from Wisconsin and Kentucky, you play the duck and cover games and do not really want to respond. Again, you are pathetic, just like your party. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Joe in Albany:

You're an idiot with nothing intelligent or funny to say. I know you like to just pretend you are having fun at our expense but really you just look like a sad little adolescent seeking attention from adults. It really is pathetic. I suppose you like to believe that you are really clever but you are only fooling yourself.

Joe in Albany

I'll site one and a big one....Okay two.

Video tape of the praises from Republicans on what a fine job she has done over her tenure. Even McCain sang out like a song bird in it....Did nothing....Yes, Cutting a trip to the Pacific Rim and running to Israel to stop an escalation of fighting is nothing.....Something you could have done I'm sure.

If the "honeymoon" is over, so be it. Is there ANYONE who still cares about the republican party? Anyone who considers them even remotely relevant? They are pissants now, thankfully, relegated to the occasional statement. Those idiots doubled down on their short-sighted policies and now they have gotten what they have long deserved......to be ignored. The American public has brushed the collective republican dirt off their shoulders. Keel over republicans. You are officially fossils!

TNSVOL, please expand on your statement about Virginia introducing legislation "suppressing" the majority? I follow the Va. General Assembly and haven't seen such legislation. Many bills are submitted, so I don't pretend to know all of them, but having been a lifelong Virginia native, I don't see anything like what you say. Our two Senators are both Democratic and while most of the House members are Republican, I think the senate candidates are an indication on how the state votes. I'm proud of Virginia for voting for the person rather than the party. It's what I do. And if more people would do the same, partisan politics would play less of a role in decisions in Washington.

Is Joe saying something again? Since I put him on ignore it has been a little more peaceful.

Sandie, I care about the Republican Party, just as I care about the Democratic Party. One party is what happens in Communist countries. We have a two party system because different ideas is where innovation comes from. And anyone who votes party and not the person is only fooling themselves.

Oh look little Joey still thinks he's funny. Don't look now Albany Joe, but you're the one being laughed at.

So yes, in that context, it is possible that liberals are more likely to unfriend.

Red,

Weird... because it was my conservative friends who "unfriended" me.

I liked to keep them around to decimate their BS and re-share! lol

I don't agree with everything Joe says, but I don't ignore him either. Innovation comes from different ideas. We need to listen to everyone. It's what has made our country great. Heck, I even read Feisty and have yet to find much agreement with her.

Now why would one respond to someone who eats canned salmon? Keta clue yet?

BCWC - Apparently, Joe suffers from the same grandiose delusions as The Trump and thinks any challenge he makes is worthy of a response. How'd that last five-million dollar challenge work out for Trump - it didn't. No takers; zip, zero, nada, nothing, ZILCH!!

I have a question for the Neocons.....Why has your party not asked Powell to become a Presidential nominee?

You all held him in such high regard under Bush. Is it because he quit after learning of the deception of the American public on WMDs? (too much truth).

Tell us exactly why.

He (Powell) would have been better than any other joker the GOP put up and could put up and would have stood a great chance of winning.

she noticed that conservatives tend to be more open to hearing opposing viewpoints than liberals."

An open mind to different opinons is a must to solve problems. I disagree with Powers, too often it is the conservative mind that is closed, unwilling to listen to arguments because of their sad devotion to their dogmatic beliefs.

Pity that very few conservatives here at first read keep an open mind. Oft times the majority of them spend their posts demonizing liberal policies by calling them socialism, fascism, communism etc.

Gingerbread Mama, I just now got a chance to read your post. Thank you! Looks like you and I were on the same page this morning.

I plan to support OFA as we move forward. I am beyond furious that these things are happening and as President Obama pointed out in his Inaugural Address, it is we the people who have to step up to the plate and do something about it so they do not succeed in stomping on our democracy.

After Clinton's grilling,

Where do they get these thought from, Madame Secretary Clinton, "grilled?" It's more like "she" didn't take any prisoners, she left skull and bones all over that hearing floor, and it was mostly a bunch of old GOPer's skull and bones!!! LOL!

Jindal addresses the RNC:

And speaking of Jindal, maybe no Republican has done a better job -- right now -- of positioning his voice for 2016 than the Louisiana governor has.

Another joke, if they believe he is their answer in 2016, we'll have us another Democratic President in 2016!!!

@Tomas, from your description it sounds like they were hunting pheasant or similar upland game. Pheasant will hold their ground or run through tall grass, and they will scare the begezzeus out of you when they are finally flushed by a Springer Spaniel ("spring" means to flush) or by a line of humans.

Ducks and geese are normally hunted when they are already "on the wing," in the sky as they approach water or feeding grounds and where the hunters sit quietly in wait, hiddedn in some manner, and usually with decoy birds out on the water or in the field.

Weird... because it was my conservative friends who "unfriended" me.

They weren't included in the poll because they didn't get that free Obamaphone.

Joe, other then berate good people and stand in the way, what have you or your party ever done FOR america? tick tock tick tock.bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz times up. answer= not a damn thing, so take your troll behind and go find some old lady and kick her off the stairs, i'm sure you will feel better.

David W, Pat Boston, TNSEVOL, and TomasGrande, excellent posts.

TomasG, that is a great story and lesson. I would qualify as an unsuitable candidate for owning a gun as well not because I've ever shot one but because just being in the same room with one makes me uncomfortable, nervous. I figure I'd shake so much, I'd hurt myself or anyone around me just trying to hold it.

yellowdog, my observation is the opposite. the so-called "liberals" I know personally are very defensive about their opinions and are not usually open to discussion.

many conservatives, like myself, are in fact "liberal" on many issues, such as the preserving the environment and endangered species, climate change and equal opportunity.

Rick -

The latest Pew Research shows that liberals are less tolerant of opposing points of view. The study finds liberals are far more sensitive about criticism. Liberal columnist Kirsten Powers noted that "Liberals, because they are used to controlling all the media, pretty much, academia, that for them, when they hear things that don't jibe with what they want to hear, it's very disconcerting and unsettling to them."

Liberals controll all media? Really? What do you call Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, and talk radio - aren't they "mainstream media"?

From the Pew findings:

The new research found that instead of engaging in civil discourse or debate, fully 16% of liberals admitted to blocking, unfriending or overtly hiding someone on a social networking site because that person expressed views they disagreed with. That’s double the percentage of conservatives and more than twice the percentage of political moderates who behaved like that.

Maybe the root cause is that the "opposing" views expressed by Conservative Republicans are more likely to be disrespectful, dishonest, racist, misogynist, or factually inaccurate - just look at some of the Conservative posters on this site!

Oddly enough, another study from Harvard, Yale and Berkely found just the opposite - that Liberal blogs and websites are much more open to opposing views than Conservative blogs and websites.

New Study: Liberals More Open Than Conservatives Online

http://www.thenation.com/article/new-study-liberals-more-open-conservatives-online#

Hillary Clinton, you have my vote if you decide to run in 2016. You have proven your metal in the last few days and I for one will back you 100 percent.

Waaaa,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. "Joe in Albany" best exemplifies the republicans mess. They're all howling about what the President is doing to 'em. Ain't necessarily the President alone. Finally, the majority of Americans have uncovered the true substance of today's republicanism. Chicken Piss! Gwaddamn chicken piss. Nuff said. Waaaa,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.

RedDevPS--sorry, but my son and I got into an argument just last night, where he tried to claim that facebook was NEWS coverage. The fact is, it is MOSTLY opinion coverage. For the most part,NO attempt is made to do actual bipartisan research to determine the validity of anything that is posted on it.

Sadly--that is also becoming the truth about the MSM.

PS--I have seen pictures of tumors posted after they are removed, and also things like an appendix (in a jar!) bloody teeth, etc.

A fetus is ONLY disgusting if you find it so. And that is YOUR opinion.

But I DO agree that if someone posts things YOU find repugnant, onto YOUR page, you have every reason to 'un friend' them. But my guess in this case is that you are anti abortion, and that your disgust is related to THAT rather than the appearance of a bloody fetus. I've seen grosser things in the meat counter of the grocery store.

I'll site one and a big one....Okay two.

Video tape of the praises from Republicans on what a fine job she has done over her tenure. Even McCain sang out like a song bird in it....Did nothing....Yes, Cutting a trip to the Pacific Rim and running to Israel to stop an escalation of fighting is nothing.....Something you could have done I'm sure.

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So, when Republicans criticize Hillary they are lying misogynist pigs, but, if they politely say generalized platitudes about a former Senator, it’s one of her “great achievements”?? Sorry Marlboro Man, that doesn’t meet the ground rule that you must cite specific dates, times, locations and verifiable results, in order to count towards the goal of three GREAT accomplishments. And neither does you other example.

Hillary’s great accomplishment score so far: Zip, Zero, Nada, Nothing.

Steve, Condi Rice would be my first choice.

Could Boehner become any more pathetic? The GOP is hurting themselves daily with their outrageous statements and behavior. Example - Rand Paul saying Benghazi was the worst event since 9-11? Tell that to the families who have lost loved ones in 2 wars, shootings, and other disasters that have happened. Nearly everyday the show themselves totally out of touch with the American people. But Boehner blames Obama? How nice to be able to put all your failings onto another person. He is the weakest person in Congress - not respected by either side.

Weird... because it was my conservative friends who "unfriended" me.

Feisty - one other very interesting finding in that poll. Liberals are more likely to avoid posting political viewpoints to avoid offending others vs. conservatives. In fact, that number would be 59%. On the other hand, only 51% of conservatives are concerned their viewpoints will offend. Obviously, that is why we have pictures floating around facebook showing babies holding AK-47s, vs. a liberal post showing a baby holding a teddy bear. What could possibly be offensive about a 2 year old sporting an RPG?

http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2012/Social-networking-and-politics/Main-findings/Social-networking-sites-and-politics.aspx

Hillary's great accomplishment score so far: Zip, Zero, Nada, Nothing.

Well, if that is the case, which it isn't, she was in the same type company at the hearing with all those LOSER republicans she tore a new @!$%# into!!!

It was funny how nonplussed Hillary Clinton looked when Rand Paul asked her that question about shipping weapons from Libya to Turkey. I guess she needs to keep up with the latest conspiracy theories on wingnut web sites. Rand Paul sure keeps up with them. So does whichever buffoon asked her about the nonexistent live video of the Benghazi attack that Clinton did NOT watch in the White House Situation Room.

Think about it-

TNSVOL, please expand on your statement about Virginia introducing legislation "suppressing" the majority? I follow the Va. General Assembly and haven't seen such legislation.

Here is just one link to the story:

RICHMOND, Va. — A Republican-backed bill that would end Virginia’s winner-takes-all method of apportioning its 13 electoral votes in presidential elections cleared its first legislative hurdle Wednesday....

The bill would apportion electors by congressional district to the candidate who wins each of the state’s 11 districts. The candidate who carries a majority of the districts would also win the two electors not tied to congressional districts....

Under Carrico’s revision, Obama would have received only four Virginia electoral votes last year while Republican Mitt Romney would have received nine. Romney carried conservative rural areas while Obama dominated Virginia’s cities and fast-growing suburbs

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/virginia-lawmakers-move-to-change-states-system-for-apportioning-presidential-electoral-votes/2013/01/23/40ee530c-65c3-11e2-889b-f23c246aa446_story.html

Brenda, I think you meant "mettle," not "metal."

It's disquieting to see so many uninformed voters express their opinions illiterally.

Haven't seen the story online yet about the Virginia Senate Republicans move to redraw Senate districts, quickly gerrymandering when Senate Democrat Henry Marsh left to attend the inauguration. Talk about sleazy, their treatment of Hillary was foreplay compared to both this and possible attempts to break up electoral votes in key midwest and eastern states.

Ricky-Pew....The poll should have focused on Rt wingers are so EXTREME they should be tolerated less!

Rt wingers use Fox fake news for their mis-information views...so when studies were done....they found that people who watched Fox news were actually dumber for watching Fox news......Do search on ...Fox news dumber...and see these actual studies.....

SO Ricky...we liberals should just sit idly by and let the lies and mis information spew out of Fox news and rt wingers huh? Just tolerate liars some more..?...Just to satisfy the skewed poll?........

NOT ANYMORE!!!!

Feisty and Red ....

Weird... because it was my conservative friends who "unfriended" me.

I will say the last political season defintely assisted me in cleaning up my friends list! I also agree with your post above, Red regarding how we avoid posting to slam our points home. Unfortunately, it also affected my church "family" as I guess a lot of those I attend church with felt that I should no longer attend due to my political beliefs.

The RWConservative crazies have been very unkind to me and my family. I truly hope that somewhere out there are some that can move forward without all of the animosity.

Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, and John McCain ie.............. Curly, Moe, and Larry

RedDevPS

Feisty - one other very interesting finding in that poll. Liberals are more likely to avoid posting political viewpoints to avoid offending others vs. conservatives.

In my neighborhood, predominately white republicans, if you display any political sign showing a democratic/liberal stance, you are shunned by your neighbors, and in some cases they quit talking to you. At night they were going around removing the few Obama/Biden yard signs that were in the subdivision. In one case across the street, a neighbor, white republican, in December 2008, he not only removed his American Flag he had been flying for 15+ years, but he went as far as removing the elaborate pole and cement base that was holding it, he hasn't replaced it yet, and has become very cold towards me.

Life is great!!!! Well, for me it is.

Clearly......Hillary Clinton should never be allowed to own weapons of any sort!

many conservatives, like myself, are in fact "liberal" on many issues, such as the preserving the environment and endangered species, climate change and equal opportunity. - In my day that was called having the "good sense" to formulate your own thoughts and views, prior to the absolutism of the tea party and science naysayers.

Good to hear. This place could use someone with your views. FYI, I believe that not all good ideas / policies come from one party. Neither do I claim my party or my President does no wrong.

Reddev - Good point, typically unless I know someone is a democrat I will not talk to them about politics. Maybe it is a PC thing liberals have. The normal GOPer I run into has no problem bringing up their antigov, Obama blaming views during meetings or normal conversation. Yesterday a whole gaggle of them were walking down the hall, rejoicing that Congress was "taking it to Clinton."

John McCain or Old Man Winter as I like to call him is such an embarrassment. No other Senator had so much to say or questions he needed "answers" to then him about Benghazi. And rather than asking all his questions, he essentially took the 5min he was given at the hearing to just give an old man rant. He asked a lot of questions but never paused to have any of his questions answered which is classic politics... waste time just saying a lot of word but don't really say anything. When is Arizona going to stop this man from embarrassing them so much and get another old white guy in there? Cuz this is one person that has stayed way to long in congress and is the model making the argument of term limits. And is the whole Benghazi thing over now... Hell no, this is the Republican conspiracy machine. As terrible as they are at finding actual scandals and conspiracy that are outside their party, this will not deter them from having something else blow up in there face like another fast and furious, over sampling of polls, or voter fraud...

Our future president looked like she was just that... The future leader of this country! Hillary 2016!!

And that is all the more reason why every one of you should have gotten involved in the Popular Amendment Movement back in August 2010. It's not too late to get involved. Here is a repeat of my many postings on the issue. ONLY YOU can change our election/campaign finance structure by helping to get the two amendments at www.faircampaignreform.us passed. GET INVOLVED NOW.

There is only one way to end the "money buying elections" issue and I've been trying to get everyone of you involved for over two years. If you haven't gone to www.faircampaignreform.us yet and gotten involved in the Popular Amendment Movement, why not? This is the ONLY way that the American citizens can ever take back the power of our electoral system. Congress will never do anything that will get past the current activist conservative SCOTUS to correct the problem. It is time to take the implied method that our founding fathers gave us, per James Wilson: http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html

Popular Amendment

One other way of amendment is also not mentioned in the Constitution, and, because it has never been used, is lost on many students of the Constitution. Framer James Wilson, however, endorsed popular amendment, and the topic is examined at some length in Akhil Reed Amar's book, The Constitution: A Biography.

The notion of popular amendment comes from the conceptual framework of the Constitution. Its power derives from the people; it was adopted by the people; it functions at the behest of and for the benefit of the people. Given all this, if the people, as a whole, somehow demanded a change to the Constitution, should not the people be allowed to make such a change? As Wilson noted in 1787, "... the people may change the constitutions whenever and however they please. This is a right of which no positive institution can ever deprive them."

It makes sense - if the people demand a change, it should be made. The change may not be the will of the Congress, nor of the states, so the two enumerated methods of amendment might not be practical, for they rely on these institutions. The real issue is not in the conceptual. It is a reality that if the people do not support the Constitution in its present form, it cannot survive. The real issue is in the practical. Since there is no process specified, what would the process be? There are no national elections today - even elections for the presidency are local. There is no precedent for a national referendum. It is easy to say that the Constitution can be changed by the people in any way the people wish. Actually making the change is another story altogether.

Suffice it to say, for now, that the notion of popular amendment makes perfect sense in the constitutional framework, even though the details of effecting popular amendment could be impossible to resolve.

It was upon this basis that I and a group of other Newsvine posters developed these two amendment proposals in July/August 2010 when we saw what Citizens United was leading to in the Congressional and state-wide races. I then paid to host the website for promoting the Popular Amendment Movement effort. Keeping the website running is my contribution to the cause, since I live in the US Virgin Islands where we have NO vote for president, NO representation in the Senate, and NO VOTE on the floor of the House (only a vote in whatever committee(s) our Delegate to Congress can be assigned to.) Yet our entire governance is determined by Congress through the Organic Act. We are basically second class citizens in the US territories. I lost my voice in government when I chose to move from OH to St. Croix in 1995 (for better weather.) PAM is a totally grassroots organization. We do not solicit any contributions and we have no formal organization. The website is the basic "organization." Download the petitions below from the site, sign them, circulate them among family, friends, neighbors, and co-workers. Email to everyone you know. Help form a local grassroots movement to collect the signatures and petitions, then work with other communities to form county/regional groups and a state-wide movement. Check with your Secretary of State to determine how many valid signatures would be required for YOUR state to call for the constitutional convention that would be required to pass these amendments. BE SURE TO MAKE COPIES OF EVERY PETITION AND HAVE THEM "DATE STAMPED" when you file the original petitions so that you have a record of what signatures were filed and when. That is your protection to make sure that your Secretary of State can't deny you your rights under the Constitution. OFA and all other grassroots groups should have been assisting in this effort for the past two years. It is not too late to get this done before the 2014/16 election cycle.

Petition for US Constitutional Amendment For Election Reform

We, the undersigned US citizens, duly registered voters in our respective states/territories, do hereby petition for our state to approve the following amendment to the United States Constitution by the method noted below.

Election Reform:
1. Abolish the Electoral College (Repeal Amendment 12)
2. ONE NATIONAL primary date to be held on the Tuesday eight (8) weeks prior to the General Election day for Congressional offices and for the President. Candidate petitions must be filed with the local/state elections boards 60 days prior to the Primary Election date. Federal election petitions shall be uniform in every state and shall include a “contract with the voters” that spells out clearly what that candidate stands for on all issues that they may have to address in elected office. They shall be held accountable in court for breach of that contract if elected and any/all terms are not met.
3. NO campaigning allowed for any elective federal office more than 60 days prior to the National Primary Date.
4. NO campaign contribution shall be donated to any candidate of more than $200 from an individual or $500 maximum from a family (spouses/children living in the same household.) No donations shall be made to a candidate more than sixty days prior to the primary date. No candidate shall contribute from their own funds more than 60% of the total donations from other private individuals.
5. NO campaign contribution from any PAC, corporation, union, non-profit organization, special interest group, etc. shall be allowed for any elected federal office.
6. NO third party campaigning (separate PAC ads, corporate ads, etc.) for/against any candidate shall be allowed at any time during or before the election season.
7. NO party conventions shall be held to select the presidential candidates. The selection must be done at the ballot box in the primary election.
8. The One Man/One Vote Supreme Court ruling shall be enforced by this Amendment, namely that NO federal candidate selection shall be by any means other than the ballot box on Primary/General Election Dates.
9. National Party Organizations shall NOT raise money for or donate to specific candidates of their party prior to the dates outlined above.
10. PAC’s shall NOT be granted tax-exempt status by the IRS, and any non-profit organization who uses their funding for political purposes shall lose their tax-exempt status.
11. All lobbyists shall be outlawed from influencing Congress at all times.

This amendment shall be approved ONLY by State Constitutional Conventions to be called within 90 days of this petition being submmitted to a state’s Secretary of State. A minimum of 25% of the registered voters in each state shall be required to further this petition to the respective Secretary of State.

Name Signature State Address

Petition for US Constitutional Amendment For Congressional Term Limits

We, the undersigned US citizens, duly registered voters in our respective states/territories, do hereby petition for our state to approve the following amendment to the United States Constitution by the method noted below.

Term Limits for Congress:
1. Representatives to Congress shall serve no more than two two-year terms in the House.
2. Senators shall be elected to no more than two six year terms in the Senate.
3. No elected official shall serve more than six terms in office in any combined elected offices (House/Senate/Presidency.)

This amendment shall be approved ONLY by State Constitutional Conventions to be called within 90 days of this petition being submmitted to a state’s Secretary of State. A minimum of 25% of the registered voters in each state shall be required to further this petition to the respective Secretary of State.

Name Signature State Address

I "unfriend" anyone who posts questionable or objectionable political views on Facebook - Republican or Democrat.

It is not that I don't want to engage in political discourse, I just don't think engaging my friends and family on Facebook is the proper venue.

That's why I come here!

"Ron Johnson put on full display the abject ignorance of the Tea Party adherents. This dolt looks at the destruction in Benghazi and then tells the Secretary that a mere phone call would have cleared up all these nagging questions. Did this blithering idiot imagine that there's a full report that's been prepared, even as the facility was under attack?"

I have numerous friends, relatives, and business associates in Wisconsin. Almost without exception, unless one is a card carrying Tea Partier, they are embarrassed by Ron Johnson. This is a guy who until 6 months before the 2010 election, no one had ever heard of. A plastics manufacturer who married the daughter of a billionaire, whose father-in-law was the primary customer of his plastics manufacturing firm. Many of his employees qualify for Badger Care, the state's version of Medicaid. This is the guy who believes that climate change and global warming are cause by sunspots. He has, not so affectionately, been nicknamed (Mo)Ron Johnson. And to think, that the state that gave us Gaylord Nelson, Bill Promise and the LaFollettes, fired Russ Feingold and elected this dimwit. I guess those cheesehead hats were cutting off oxygen to the voters' brains back in 2010.

So a Negligent Democrat with the blood of innocent people on her hands, is stronger? (what a spin)

And Obama* and Feinstein Standing in the blood of children, is a reason to make more innocent American Citizens Defensless? And Obama* and Holder selling assault weapons to Insurgent Career Criminal Drug Cartels and Gangs,causing the murder of a Border Patrol Agent and hundreds of innocent citizens of our southern neighbor, is a reason to make innocent american citizens defensless?

What a Spin. they lie so much.

Hillary knew that there were requests for more security and she says,"So What".

Mrs. Impeached is as bad as her husband.

Another panel of White Males trying to grandstand for the cameras and disrespect the woman testifying. If she had been a "he", everyone would just have said he was being "forceful". Only one of the GOPers made really good comments - a new guy from the Midwest....

I thought the comment made reminding the GOP types like MCain and others about the lies and distortions regarding "weapons of mass destruction" that didn't exist in Iraq but were sold to everyone in the press by everyone in the Bush administration - THAT was good.

Reminded everyone in the room how they had no grilling comments during the run-up to that unwarranted war the neo-cons wanted so badly. It reminded us about how much of this process is just political theater with no substance. What a waste of time.

Republicans great accomplishment score so far: Zip, Zero, Nada, Nothing. Thanks, Joe in Albany, for making this sooo easy. Now go to your room.

ThinkaboutIt, since you said you were unaware of any such legislation, I'd suggest you check out what the Virginia State Senate did Monday, Inauguration Day. The VA State Senate is tied with 20 Republicans and 20 Democrats. State Senator Henry Marsh (D), who in addition to serving in various state government positions, has spent 50 years working as a civil rights attorney and was the first black Mayor of Richmond attended the Historic 2nd term Inauguration of President Obama. The VA Senate republicans noting his absence then quickly passed, 20-19, a gerrymandered redistricting State Senate map without any warning, without any discussion, without any public input. Now those GOPers did not just pull that map out of their hats; they had to have prepared it with the intent to pass it when any democrat was absent. Governor McDonnell said he had no idea (yeah, right) that such an unfair thing would be done; pretty much his public response to mandatory vaginal probes.

I don't doubt you are proud of your state but if you really are as concerned as you appear to be, then you better start paying closer attention to what is being done in the State of Virginia by republicans. It is hardly representative of democracy.

I don't think Rand Paul is operating with a full deck, his behavior goes beyond weird !!!

Why is it that nobody appears to answer Joe's question, other than to slam him about eating salmon and the like and call him names? Not picking sides, but we really do need to get this budget under control and stop printing more money. Our "leaders"....and I use that term lightly, need to get there heads out and do their job. ALL OF THEM. That would mean working together for solutions instead of just slamming on each other as most of the folks on these threads seem to do. Can't Dems and Repubs get along and work together, either in Washington, or here???

It's a travesty.

inMYday, I think you meant "illiterately," not "illiterally."

Perhaps you should make sure your own posts are written correctly before trying to correct someone else. Otherwise, you look like a fool, as you did there.

starsailing - Rt wingers use Fox fake news for their mis-information views...

Let's have some specific examples of just what these lies are we always hear about. If you're going to make accusations, you need to back them up.

SO Ricky...we liberals should just sit idly by and let the lies and mis information spew out of Fox news and rt wingers huh? Just tolerate liars some more..?...

The left has mastered propaganda and the art of shaping public opinion by...whatever means necessary, and low-information voters believe it. They never bother to check facts, and to make sure they don't try, we state over and over that "FOX news lies". That way, people get one version...ours!

BTW, I am liberal in the sense I believe in liberty and freedom. I am NOT a neo-communist "progressive".

From my experience, progressives are open to opposing views, sometimes to a fault. But it gets tiresome to hear the same garbage from Fox News or the Drudge Report over and over again. How many times should a person be subjected to fact-free birther conspiracy theories or claims of climate change "hoaxes" before blocking the idiots that keep repeating them?

indigo4, you are correct. I made a typographical error and I thank you for bringing it to my attention. To show my appreciation and to demonstrate humble admission of my own error, I have given you an "up" vote.

TNSEVOL - both the states Maine & Nebraska split their electoral votes using the Congressional District Method, where electoral votes are distributed according to the state’s congressional districts instead of the state as a whole.
The 'winner-take-all' method disenfranchises the minority in the state who voted for the other Presidential candidate.
Why is it democrats only care about the minority when they are it?

...and Hillary lied and people died.

...what difference does it make?

Well, Hillary, four people are needlessly dead due to you incompetence; that makes a huge difference to their families. But never fear, as this thread demonstrates, there are plenty of mindless progressive lemmings out there who will defend you, as they do Obama and the rest of this totally inept administration.

By the way, Albany Joe is not only clever and humorous, he's also correct! Keep it up, Joe.

GOP : This was WRONG Mrs. Clinton

Mrs. Clinton: I take full responsibility

GOP: We're not through with our snit fit

Think about it: It was a Washington Post editorial saying how the Virginia house introduced a bill to change the system for apportioning votes , while one Democrat attended THE PRESIDENTS second inauguration giving the representative one vote more than the attending Democrats. The post is above.

I expect since McCain and the rest of his Grumpy old white men are so indignant about Americans dying in embassies and related places...they will immediately start investigating why 64 were killed under Bush/Cheney team of calculated blunders...no?

I guess since republicons are so interested in Americans dying...they will investigate Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeldt/Rove/and cabinet for lying the nation and the WORLD into the Iraq war just to give war profits to Cheney and to make Bush known as a "War President, because War presidents are remembered."

No...? they won't be investigating their own party..?....Damn I thought they said they were Americans.

Here is why thinking people ignore Joe in Albany's posts and his question, 31yearsofservice:

He does not want an answer. His immediate response will be to denigrate the response, and attack his betters.

He is a misogynist who cannot stand that Mrs. Clinton has done this country great service for years, not just as Secretary of State.

The only acceptable answer to him regarding Mrs. Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State would be a lie, that she has done nothing.

Anything else will cause him to squirm, turn red faced and stammer "No, no NO! I said she did nothing, I demand you agree with me...."

Thinking people are not facile, and do not agree with poor Joey.

Close your eyes.

Imagine you live in a world were the american people were told 10 minutes later that this was a terrorist attack and not a spontaneous demonstration.

Now.... why is this world better?

Joe in Albany

2010 January 16 -- US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Haiti to help with disaster relief

2010 May 21 -- Warns of Consequences for North Korea following sinking of South Korean warship -- "We cannot allow this attack on South Korea to go unanswered by the international community."

Here are two you can hang your noodle on from the past....There are many more that are more current.

You didn't address the leaving of her trip with the President in the Pacific Rim to go to Israel.

Your statement doesn't hold up.....Sorry would you like another roll of the dice.

But my guess in this case is that you are anti abortion, and that your disgust is related to THAT rather than the appearance of a bloody fetus.

Actually, Momaid, this illustrates the problem with facebook and other social media postings. You drew a conclusion on my abortion stance based upon an action I took. Perhaps I am anti-abortion. Perhaps I am pro-choice. Perhaps I dislike abortion but fully believe it is a decision between a woman and her doctor. Maybe I don't want pictures of a bloody fetus' posted on my facebook page because it will upset the 6 year old child of my best friend's daughter. Perhaps I work at an abortion clinic and simply don't want to bring my work home with me. Perhaps my boss is anti-abortion, and because I deleted the facebook post, he reads it as my stance is pro-choice and fires me.

The original point of the original poster is that, according to the Pew Poll, liberals are less tolerant than conservatives and moderates. Putting aside the fact he cherry picked the poll to fit his needs, my point is perhaps there is a valid reason reason liberals are more likely to unfriend on facebook. A deeper look at the poll certainly tells quite a different story.

By the way, I do agree with your assessment that facebook is often and simply an accumulation of biased opinions.

Proud 2B Liberal

The left has mastered propaganda and the art of shaping public opinion by...whatever means necessary, and low-information voters believe it. They never bother to check facts, and to make sure they don't try, we state over and over that "FOX news lies". That way, people get one version...ours!

Oh, that's only the left, is that correct? It can't possibly be both sides taking advantage of slanting a story to sell negative perceptions of the opposing party.

And what exactly is a "low information voter"? Would that be described as someone who has forgotten everything that they learned when they took government or a basic civics class? I've seen this term bandied about repeatedly and figure it's time to step up and ask for an actual definition.

Comrade,

Actually it gives a distorted advantage to less populated areas. That would not be equal representation. In Ohio President Obama won the popular vote by over 4% yet he only won 31% of the districts.

If this is done there will be a constitution amendment to eliminate the Electoral College in favor of a straight popular vote which will give an even greater advantage to Democrats for at least 2 generations. I will be all for that change !!

My two cents, for what its worth:

The Senate GOP have been gunning for Hillary Clinton since the middle of last year. They REALLY don't want to face her as a presidential candidate in 2016. She was very strong in 2008, after four years as Secretary of State, she will be formidable.

The entire issue of what was initially told to the press shortly after the incident (i.e. the demonstrators rioting over the movie) truly is irrelevant now. There was no "coverup" as the GOP would like to have happened.

The Senators would have loved to state exactly what went wrong, and drop each and every issue, in the open, right on Sec. Clinton before the cameras. Unfortunately, many of the problems deal with confidential, national security issues which can only be discussed outside of the purview of the enemies being discussed.

The dog and pony show the irrelevant GOP would have liked to have just wouldn't work. They wanted to bring up the same old story, but Sec. Clinton just wouldn't cooperate.

Paul Ryan and John Boehner are correct, President Obama does want to consign the current GOP to the dust bin of history, WHERE IT BELONGS.

Everyone should pay attention to what is going on in Virginia... This kind of gerrymandering crap while a congressman is away should not stand and could be coming to a state legislation near you! The people of Virginia should not stand for this like they did not stand to have women mandated to have trans vaginal ultrasounds. I believe this is worst. They are attempting to silence the majority of voters. To only value the votes of the few over those on the other side that out number them almost 2:1 and to do so for at least a generation.We all saw what Republican majority leads to... more poverty, less informed population, more federal govt assistance, lower wages, and a whole lot of medically mandated procedures not based on medical facts!

I admire Mrs. Clinton for her accomplishments, but she always comes across as an anti-Republican beotch.

“There is no question we all relied on flawed intelligence. But, there is a
fundamental difference between relying on incorrect intelligence and
deliberately painting a picture to the American people that you know is not
fully accurate."

Senator John D. Rockefeller IV - Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence - 5 June 2008 - (Final Phase II Reports on Prewar Iraq Intelligence)

Isn't it funny how history keeps repeating itself?

Thinkaboutit..3099387 The following is a link for what you were asking about above:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/21/1475811/virginia-rushes-redistricting/#.UQFb6xLC1sk.email

Following that, read this too,

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/24/1488491/how-the-republicans-plan-to-rig-the-next-presidential-race-in-six-pictures/#.UQFZtElR0oc.email

for this is where it is heading as I posted another piece on this particular subject above @ post number 1 ..all of us, regardless of party, should be alarmed that the GOP is maneuvering to change the voters intentions and is another form of voter suppression.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/24/1488491/how-the-republicans-plan-to-rig-the-next-presidential-race-in-six-pictures/#.UQFZtElR0oc.email

inMyday - Condi Rice CAN'T run. She would be destroyed because of her ignoring the repeated warnings about 9/11/2001 as well as ignoring information that disproved the Bush administration's claims of Iraq having WMD's. She should stay where she is - we DON'T EVER need anyone from Bush's group running for ANYTHING!

Joe in Albany

So, when Republicans criticize Hillary they are lying misogynist pigs

no, they are not misogynist pigs -they are simply HYPOCRITES. I am still waiting for the Republican outrage for the lies, cover ups, manipulation, and distortion of facts to the American people and the US Congress by the Bush Administration when it comes to the Iraqi War. I thought the big, Republican talking point was that the American people have the right to know...I guess it's only when the POTUS is a Democrat, right?

SeekingSanity -

You're obviously not finding it.

It was amazing to me to watch these hearings. I am a white, well off male, who was raised as a Republican, like my father, grandfather and great-grandfather were. In 2008, I thought the worst thing that could happen was to have Hilary elected president -- especially on the heels of the disasterous Bush 43 administration that destroyed everything in sight (and, yes, allowed 3000 Americans be killed in our homeland b ignoring intelligence reports they had, and failing to kill or capture the architect of that attack during the entire remainder of their nine year flop). As of that time, her only real experience was that she had been the wife of a president. However, since her defeat in the Democratic primary process, she has been working hard, applying her intelligence and connections, dedicating herself to good and useful service to our country at the highest level, and has been honing her skills as a diplomat and as a politician. Meanwhile, all those Republican representatives and senators who tried so hard to make her life difficult only, in reality, embarrassed themselves -- showing that they have spent the time since 2008 just whining about not having power, complaining about the guy in the White House who, surely and steadily, is getting us out of the nuclear winter brought on by his predecessor and his boss VP. Isn't the Republican mantra related to self determination and hard work? Why do all Republicans everywhere tolerate these bozos and n'er do-wells, who live off the public trough and think that their job is to whine about how they wish they had the keys to daddy's car? What ever happened to real Republicans like Reagan, James Baker, George HW Bush, Jerry Ford, et al? Can't we get rid of these whiners and crybabies?

Joe in Albany

Just in case....Most recently

Sec. Clinton adopts all recommendations made by Senate committee to streamline protocol & information. She makes a under secretary position to deal with all urgent matters (Hot Spots) for information to go to for possible immediate action (This has never been done under any Sec of State). January 2013

Proud to be ..stuff....you want examples?..........Do search on ....Fox news Dumber...it is that simple...to see the studies......

Fox news dumber.....Canada does not allow them to call themselves news....they are entertainment....Too funny!................Dear Lord I hope you are not serious thinking Fox news is for real?.....One of my favorite stories was when they were reporting on a union story out east then showing video from a riot of some sorts on west coast with palm trees, as if there was rioting going on. Yeah...lots of palm trees in New York.

Does anyone else think that Marco Rubio looked like a sweaty school boy in the principal's office? He looked like fish out of water during the hearing.

Apparently NOT tough enough.

Mrs. Clinton will be allowed to EXIT the door and resign, and her "subordinates" will continue to work for the Federal government. NOT ONE person in the State Department will be held accountable.

Taking responsibility is not enough. Reiterating the same old story is not the TRUTH. Hiding behind an investigation is outrageous. There should be TOUGH repercussions for her lack of leadership which resulted in the deaths of an American Ambassador and three other Americans.

The Progressives at the Congressional hearing make me want to throw up after hearing all their love and affection. She has NOT done a "superb job" as Secretary of the State.....she has been a total failure.

LosMan123 -

Everyone should pay attention to what is going on in Virginia...

No kidding. Yesterday was a HUGE news day and I hope that people keep this in mind as much of it was buried under the headline of Hillary's testimony. Virgina is slowly turning into one crazy state which saddens me as I've many clients and friends there!

BearDown-3307297 wrote" The right loves Reagan's election. They can look to that and claim ultimate victory. But that was 23 years ago. You've controlled a single branch of congress for a total of 8 years since then. You've lost 5 of the last 6 POTUS elections by popular vote."

Yet they still want to blame the economy on Bush. How pathetic can the IGNORANT LEFT get to not realize that.

Gingerbread Mamma

Thank You for the post 1.91.....We have to keep our eyes wide open for this where ever it happens, and not allow it. Where it does we the people need to urge the Dept. Of Justice to take action against those that would corrupt our voter rights.

We really do need to vote for the person, and not the party. Everyone on here is like voting for a football team, regardless of the job the party does. The republicans attempt to give the rural areas as much clout as the urban areas iks no different than Barack Obama buying all the Urban votes with free entitlement giveaways.

ldo

More Elephant @!$%#....You and Rand Paul (If I where the King.....Blah,Blah,Blah).

Bush is still wanted in the Hague for war crimes.

joel,

In this country it has always been “majority rule” regardless of how rich, what color, religion, where they live, etc.

Why do you object to our founding fathers’ ideals?

Comrade Chaos,

You are seriously making the argument that the opinions of a minority are worth more or the same as a majority. Saying nothing of the fact that it is the policies that you pursue as a legislature that make you a minority. If most people disagree with your political view over and over again as it has happened in the last two elections, dont you feel like it is the responsibility of that legislative body to tailor policies to be more inclusive of the masses rather than to stand in the way of progress? The job of politicians should be to win over as many votes as possible. Not to figure out a way where only the votes of those who like you matter. But the republicans are not interested in that. They rather work hard to try to exclude as many voices as possible that disagree with their opinions. That is not governing!

inMYday,

your post # 1.54

Don't you mean illiterately? Ironic much?

YD Mark, Hope you had a good holiday.

First, I don't think this forum is a very good place to form a sweeping opinion of either party. Many take it way to seriously and many come in to just "tweak" (Many times that is me).

Sadly, the tone is most often set at the top of the thread by the same "usual Suspects" and it goes downhill from there.

You and I don't agree on many issues, but I believe we have had several exchanges that were civilized and had me at least understanding your views. Doesn't necessarily mean I agree, but I listened.

Now if you bounce that off the vitriol that I receive from most of the other so-called "Liberals" here, it is night and day.

I feel sorry for anyone who thinks that either point of view represented here is the broad brush generalization of either parties ideology.

Powers explained that after getting out of her own "Democratic bubble," she noticed that conservatives tend to be more open to hearing opposing viewpoints than liberals."

Sure. That's why conservatives are anti-abortion, because they are open to hearing opposing viewpoints.

That's why conservatives deny climate change.

That's why conservatives are gerrymandering political districts in states accross the country.

That's why conservatives are so concerned about non-existent voter fraud.

That's why conservatives think being gay is an abomination.

That's why conservatives are shutting down Planned Parenthood.

That's why conservatives continue to try and de-fund Obamacare.

That's why conservatives, having demanded accounting from Hillary Clinton, denigrate her in public and choose not to watch the proceedings.

That's why conservatives refuse to negotiate on the budget.

Conservatives are open to hearing opposing viewpoints?! Please!

Layton,

I hear you bro! I have family there as well... Mostly in the military and it just saddens me to see where the republicans are taking this now. They cant win with votes so they gotta do something else to stay in power... Forget what the people want!

The middle east is burning. Al Qaeda is stronger than ever and NOT decimated. Embassy staffs getting killed. And yesterday, N Korea did missile tests which it stated that the US was the intended target. Europe is in economic chaos. And Russia has our prez in their pocket.

Great job Hilary!! LMFAO!!! Thank God you are retiring! Another 4 years of this and we will be Cuba. LOL!

PS. Hey kiddos! A friendly reminder that Fisty, Beverly, David Walker and Pigotry are all the same poster and have been exposed. Sad? You bet! LOLOL!

Bobster-1557895

N Korea did missile tests which it stated that the US was the intended target.

Mistatement. NK only stated yesterday they are going to do tests, not that they had.

Bobster,

More lies ...

Yawn

Rather than socking it to Hillary these republicans again look the fools they are. They voted down funding for greater security at our Embassies. We also are protected by the government of the country that we have our embassies and a handful of our security.

Four people died sadly, but what about bush ignoring the CIA reports and the National Security reports about 9/11? Four lives lost is tragic, but what about 3,200? Fools!

Dennis, as a former Buckeye, I have to ask you what you have done so far to help pass the constitutional amendment posted above that would do just what you want...eliminate the Electoral College, along with many other much needed changes in our electoral system and campaign financing.

inMYday

Brenda, I think you meant "mettle," not "metal."

It's disquieting to see so many uninformed voters express their opinions illiterally.

Look out everyone, the hall monitor is here to point out every mistake you make while you are posting. Next you will be graded for your mistakes. It's a blog not a class on spelling. Get a life.

Red -- You wrote:

Now on to eyeglass-gate!!

Let's give Joe in Albany credit for something he knows a lot about. SPECTACLES.

joel,

How idiotic of you to say those things. I have a sister who had a stroke and she had to get help or she would die. It is not free give always as she funded many of the programs before, while she was working. I guess the haves don't know what it is like to be a have not for whatever reason! That is why the republican will die! People like you who are misguided and don't know about the real America!

ComradeChaos: "The 'winner-take-all' method disenfranchises the minority in the state who voted for the other Presidential candidate."

The minority is supposed to be disenfranchised you big dummy.

Red states, blue states, ring a bell? What if I voted for the other guy in my congressional district? Am I disenfranchised? Should we then allocate votes on zip code? Maybe on the street you live on? I hereby allocate the votes of billybob drive to…. Maybe we should allocate the votes based on household? But wait a minute what if mom votes for the other guy? Oh no, we’ve disenfranchised mom in her own house. What if the family dog blocks mom from getting to the voting booth and mom takes it upon herself to blow away the family dog under the stand your ground laws? Then we have a family dog engaging in voter suppression that was legally killed by a family member who was electorally disenfranchised. Dear god that sounds terrible. I just blew my own mind dude.

Iamnotyou

So a Negligent Democrat with the blood of innocent people on her hands, is stronger? (what a spin)

So, negligent repbulicanS (Bush/Cheney/Rice/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Powell) with the blood of innocent SOLDIERS and civilians (Iraq, Afghanistan) on THEIR hands are stronger?

^ There, I fixed it for you since it seems you believe this is better.

LosMan123 . . .

I hear you bro!

I'll forgive you on that one ... ;-) (would be a sis to you!)

Don't Carry It All . . .

Let's give Joe in Albany credit for something he knows a lot about. SPECTACLES.

He could write a book about creating them!

Funny to watch how the hair stood up on every liberals neck after reading that the Pew Research found them to be less tolerant of opposing viewpoints. Or that liberal columnist Kirsten Powers says she finds conservatives more open to hearing opposing viewpoints. In reaction to Powers comments about a mostly liberal media, all you read over and over is Fox bashing. Never mind the very liberal CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, or MSNBC which seems to be an immediate 5 to 1 advantage liberal networks to one conservative. Which of course only scratches the surface of liberal bias in the media. I would have to say that anyone reviewing the comments on this site about the Pew Research would surmise they pretty much confirm the accuracy of the polling data.

ComradeIdiot,

You imply that Secretary of State Clinton caused the deaths of the individuals in the compound. Nothing could be further from the truth.

anti-trust,

I’m not an activist and will not get directly involved in politics and rarely sign petitions.

I can live with the Electoral College however if it ever shows up on the Ohio ballot as a US Constitutional Amendment I would vote for it because in the strictest of mathematical terms it is possible to elect a President with about 26% of the popular vote.

Rick-3416939

Funny to watch how the hair stood up on every liberals neck

It's even funnier....LOL....to watch people like you, who are so loss, grasp at anything that gives you a miniscule edge, before it disappears!!

Hey Brenda... An alert pupil noted that the hall monitor meant to say "illiterately" when it became so disquieted, and was humbly awarded with an up-vote as a mea culpa... Apparently the up-vote of the hall monitor is a precious thing doled out only as a means of assuaging guilt. Aren't people preposterous sometimes?

On a lighter note, I've observed a point in our political process wherein bi-partisan support is assured!!

As we all know, most republican politicians that run out of rope and "retire" end up with either consulting gigs related to subjects they know nothing about (like pharmaceuticals) or in some non-producing financially leaching venture extracting money from the works and accounts of others... Well I'm proud to say that the illustrious Rand Paul, junior bot-fly of the Paul Klan, has a different plan... It became clear to me that his post-political sights are firmly fixed on stand-up comedy as soon as he said "If I were President of the United States I'd have fired you"... I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm still chuckling over the dead-pan delivery of that one-liner. He may have a future after all!!

Rick-3416939

Whats really funny is that during the campaign you all rejected the pew reports and called them fake and trumped up. Now they are okay? Hmmm.

Maybe the shift is that we're tired of having this crap shoved at us from the Neocons, and we've become less tolerant of hearing the same droning on from you guys. Your party has less to offer the broader base, and what you do have to offer can be placed on the head of a needle.

Joe in Albany

2010 January 16 -- US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrives in Haiti to help with disaster relief

2010 May 21 -- Warns of Consequences for North Korea following sinking of South Korean warship -- "We cannot allow this attack on South Korea to go unanswered by the international community."

Here are two you can hang your noodle on from the past....There are many more that are more current.

You didn't address the leaving of her trip with the President in the Pacific Rim to go to Israel.

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Marlboro Man: Everything you have cited (not "sited"), including #1.96, are part of the normal basic job duties of any SoS. For all the lefty liberal adoration heaped on Hillary to be more than mindless Clinton worshipping, you/they need to cite just three accomplishments that would be generally considered to be "GREAT" accomplishments.

Here's a link to Hillary's recent discussion of her accomplishments as SoS. Nothing "great" in this link:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/hillary-clinton-reflects-on-accomplishments-challenges-as-secretary-of-state/

bubblegum

Rick-3416939

"Funny to watch how the hair stood up on every liberals neck after reading that the Pew Research found them to be less tolerant of opposing viewpoints."

I stopped looking at or referring to poll results right after they were clearly used to milk the cash cow created by the citizens united ruling in the last election... Surely it's way too early for a right-winger to go referencing poll results again, right? But then again, I'm considered a "learner" and was blessed with a memory longer than 90 days or so.

Sorry about your luck.

I was and will be heading for the end of this forum but just reading some of the posts from these people defending Clinton makes me shudder at the depths of ignorance, deceit and partisanship these (I suppose) professional contributers have sank to in defending her attempt to lie to us and then justify it by bullying. If some of you are so against right, morality and truth, what happens if and when you win?

As expected this well-rehearsed, smoke & mirrors sideshow game of charades unfolded with nothing of any value being accomplished. The truth of the matter remains elusive because any attempt to inquire about it is met with resistance, though she clearly stated she took 'full responsibility' for it. Then it's wrapped up and throw in the faces of the republicans as if it were their fault- go figure, typical libbie reaction.

Joe in Albany

Your a bag of wind to put it politely

I gave you very recent dates and things that she has done but you have yet to recognize them or address them.

Nice try.....You really need to lay off huffing super glue.

tom,

No matter who says what, there are those that will accuse them of not telling the truth unless it matches what they (YOU) believe. They are called “TRUTHERS” !!

Bobster

Time to change the channel.

The middle east is moving towards democracy, a very messy business. France failed at creating a lasting democratic government numerous times after the French revolution before finally succeeding after WW II. Americans frequently praise democracy as the way every country should be ruled without realizing that it has many pitfalls. Hitler rose from the ashes of the Weimar Republic.

We must be patient when watching countries experiment with democracy. Not everything will go our way, but to interfere with the democratic process is not only selling our ideal of democracy short, but also alienates those people we interfere with. The situation in Iran today results partly from our interference with their attempts at democracy in 1954. The situation in Israel and the Gaza Strip today results partly from our rejection of the Hamas election victory there 5 or 6 years ago.

If we are to promote our ideal of democracy around the world, then we must tolerate some of the problems associated with it. To exaggerate the threat new democracies pose (as you do in the middle East) is not helpful to this process of democratization.

Patience, Bobster, patience.

Hey WCA, how's it going. Long time.

I appreciate honest debate, see a lot of it from posters who try to do it. Someone else said it above there are some posters that post such inane, untrue, thoughts that it is useless to reply to. In the days after the Newton shooting it seems a train load of crazies entered the fray.

Always have liked first read, better than many other sites but good posters able to dialogue come few and far between. Do you have a suggestion for another site? I've browsed reddit politics, it is more serious but doesn't have the same comradely appeal as here. The site links to topics posted by a myriad of sources then you can comment.

By the way, I liked the holidays, especially the MLK holiday. It allowed me to watch the inauguration! Had to get a tweak in with some friendly ribbing! :}

ProFreedom-5130956

If there was anything in any of the reports (Classified or Unclassified) worthy of charges, don't think for one minute that the Neocons wouldn't have jumped at the chance to hang her out to dry.

CIA reports and other intel are what the Sec. of State, House, Senate, & White House got....They all got the same information. No cover up...no smoke & mirrors.

The fault of the Republicans was that they gutted the request for funding under your VP candidate Paul Ryan. As recent as the vote for Sandy relief, contained in that bill was an increase for funding for increased security at our embassies. It was cut...By who again?

I might also add that if there is any responsibility here it would lay with the D.o.D, as they are the ones charged with military actions or rescue operations. That is not the function of the Sec. of State.

Well, let's see now. It's been four hours and twenty minutes since Joe in Albany threw the challenge out there to list a mere three of Hillary's landmark accomplishments and no responders save Steve @ #1.96, which is nothing, because there's NOTHING OUT THERE!!!!!

Brenda @ 1.64: I don't usually correct spelling errors (I make 'em too) or incomplete words, but when you use the wrong word it changes the conjecture. You meant to say mettle not metal. Big difference.

Steve... is this your Brokeback Mountain look ??

Funny to watch how the hair stood up on every liberals neck after reading that the Pew Research found them to be less tolerant of opposing viewpoints.

Now little Ricky, what is truly funny is to watch your pathetic attempt to cherry pick the results of a poll to support your broad claim. Sorry bucko, the poll doesn't support your claim. But here is a poll you can chew on that basically fits an equally ridiculous broad claim that conservatives have low IQs. See how that works - or does it overreach your IQ level?

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found.

Joe in Albany

Your a bag of wind to put it politely

I gave you very recent dates and things that she has done but you have yet to recognize them or address them.

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Marlboro Man: Did you check the link out? The great Hillary herself couldn't even come up with three "great" accomplishments. According to you, that makes her a windbag. Although I prefer thinking of her as an empty pants suit.

starsailing

Proud to be ..stuff....you want examples?..........Do search on ....Fox news Dumber...it is that simple...to see the studies......

I KNEW you had NO EXAMPLES of ANY of these supposed LIES.

I know all about being a leftist. I know the modus operandi for mass indoctrination. I know that any news outlet that favors a conservative view is far outnumbered, in fact dwarfed by left-leaning sources. But it's not only news outlets that the left holds, it is the university education system, the secondary education system, film, television and advertising all work to inject left-wing ideology into society, sometimes subtly, sometimes boldly.

Steve you are way to kind...that Joe in Albany is a douche bag...plain an simple...I'd like to see him list some GREAT things his useless GOP congress has done...meeting all the same criteria he expects...I wonder what they will call the new party that replaces the republican party...hmmmm...the Independent's? lol

Some of Hillary's accomplishments: Iran sanctions, democracy in Burma, restoration of respect for USA in the world, and progress on women's rights around the world. No new wars is two better than her predecessors in the previous 8 years.

Steve... is this your Brokeback Mountain look ??

Ah lookie there - that low IQ/conservatism poll cited in post 1.41 has a portion dedicated to the ilk of of BaliBob.

They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays.

We've become a nation of drama quenns and Monday morning quarterbacks. There is a lot more information that we, the American citizen, can't see , for a multitude of reasons. Madame Secretary took responsibility, rightfully so, can we move on now?

At least I'm not affraid to show my face.....yes I am gay...what of it.

Here is an FYI for all you neocons

The Sec. of State. does not have the authority to order action by our military. The only thing that that office can do at anytime of an attack against one of our embassies is to inform the Dept. Of Defense. Who in turn will assess to see if in fact any action can take place. The D.o.D needs approval & input from the Senate intel committee, National Security Council & the President to name a few to take action.

We have international treaty laws that have to be followed and treaties with most of our host countries.

Our host countries in most cases do not allow a large military presents at our embassies, as they (the host country) are charged by treaty to keep secure those embassies within their country.

So, in looking at this mess...the cable for help and notice that the embassy was under attack should have gone to the D.o.D, as there was a CIA operation going on at the time of the incident, and a very small embassy personnel foot print.

i would say that hillary WAS responsible,and she says she takes full responsibility, seems to me that any questions ask by democrats were ok, and how dare the republicans ask any questions that may actually get to the point of the matter, which is WHY was security so lax and WHY was it not brought up to speed? a matter of money she says, so why did she not use her status to fix THAT problem? or were her hands tied and was told not to bring it up? lots of blame to go around here and hillary is not the only fox in the hen coop. as much as i disagree with her policies , i think there are bigger fish that are not gonna be fried, and hillery is taking all the blame .

also when a fellow american calls for assistance and is allowed to be killed because our government does not want to (anger) the host country. would you not say that there is something seriously wrong here?

Joe in Albany

The great Hillary herself couldn't even come up with three "great" accomplishments.

No you idiot that makes her humble....had she did that you guys would have gone on about how full of herself she is.....You can't have it both ways.

Hillary's honeymoon with GOP ends.

Well, at least there was a honeymoon for Hillary with the GOP. I wonder if Bill ever gave Hillary a honeymoon, because Bill has always been out looking for the next romantic object.

Albany Joe,

Let's wait 4 more years before we discuss Hilary Clinton's accomplishments.

We know you want to have another Presidential election right away because Republicans got their collective arses handed to them but let's get around to stomping butt again in a few more years.

I wrote to my Senator, Ron Johnson, and told him what an embarrassment he was to our state. Two years of doing absolutely nothing, like a typical teabugger, and then his rant. What an idiot! I really mean it too as he has done nothing and his e-mails back to the voters always say that he has 100,000's of e-mails to respond to. Well, if he did some something rather than smoke his cigars we would have a Senator representing our state of Wisconsin! Since he is a republican just put him in the same category as Wacko Walker who had his former top aide in Milwaukee sentenced to 2 years in prison and 5 other aide pleaded guilty to other charges. That is the republican party today here in Wisconsin and Nationally!

I doubt many of us on this vine have any real understanding of the duties of the S.o.S. I think anyone calling Hillary a failure or the rest of the drivel I read from the right is absolutely depressing. What I cannot stand is you seemed so much more interested in hating Obama and his cabinet; that I wonder if you hate them more then the actual murderer's and cowards who were involved in this attack.

You act like the only diplomat that ever faced any danger is the ones working for the current administration. There have been murders and bombings under every administration but I have never seen it like this before. When the marines were killed in Libiya during Reagan, did you hate Reagan? That was over 200 Marines killed. Did you blame him? Did you call him a liar?

NO YOU DID NOT!

Steve- we may not agree entirely on everything. But if that's your thumbnail pic I say you're a fine looking man.

Right on Bill 314065

These guys hate the President so much that they won't see anything but hate, no matter what.

They took serious the McConnell call for failure of this administration at any cost...So they will make sure it costs us all on every level they can.....A life...someones benefits....the economy...any cost.

clwyd-2621393 WTG.....Keep sending them.

ProFreedom-5130956

Thank You and yes that is me...or should I say that is I

imnotlost

Brenda @ 1.64: I don't usually correct spelling errors (I make 'em too) or incomplete words, but when you use the wrong word it changes the conjecture. You meant to say mettle not metal. Big difference.

Um.... OK. I em soooo sry fer knot usin da write werds n spellen wene poastin n dis sight. wil werk n da fewter ta dew ma besttest ta knot F upp agin.

brenda1964

ROLFAO........GOOD ONE!!!!!!

LMAO..brave GOP..she only has a few days to stay in office, now they attack her. They were scared chit of her for FOUR YEARS!

Hillary 2016

Joseph/There is not much point in disputing with you.Anyone in disagreement in your opinion is wrong,mistaken ,lying or an idiot,So I consider you to be a waste of time to disagree with.This of course doesn't mean that I consider you right but only consider that it is unprofitable to waste further time on you.Good bye!

Comrade,

How can Democrats be in the minority when they won the presidential vote and a majority of the popular vote for the Congress as well? It was gerrymandering that won the republicans the House. presidential vote Obama won by 5,000,000+ votes. Congress Democrats won by 2,000,000 votes. Tell me that an approval rating for republicans of 26% puts them in majority! Turn off FOX propaganda and watch real news!

clwyd-2621393

They are not going to admit anything.....Delusion is all they have to hold onto now, and because according to them all other news media are "liberal" they can not trust the ethics of journalism in the "real news media".

Brenda @ 1.158: If you don't know the difference in metal and mettle or your and you're and those many other criminal grammar gaffes, perhaps you should stay off Newsvine and take an online course in grammar.

Don't play me for an idiot till you've cleaned your own kitchen. In the famous words of Vinnie Barbarino, UP YOUR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE!!!!!!!!

imnotlost

Brenda @ 1.158: If you don't know the difference in metal and mettle or your and you're and those many other criminal grammar gaffes, perhaps you should stay off Newsvine and take an online course in grammar.

Don't play me for an idiot till you've cleaned your own kitchen. In the famous words of Vinnie Barbarino, UP YOUR NOSE WITH A RUBBER HOSE!!!!!!!!

U sher shewd upp me. eye feal soo shepesh. Wouw, kent evr remembor fealen sooo ambearassd.

Nerd squad back in town. Make sure you have your hall pass.

I was wondering if someone could help me? Can someone tell me what Hillary accomplished during her tenure is Secretary of State other than racking up the frequent flyer miles? I can't honestly think of one thing. Iran is still pursuing nukes. North Korea is still a threat. Egypt is developing into a theocracy. Syria is slaughtering its own people. A murdered Ambassador in Libya who might have been saved along with three other Americans if some, hell any, action had been taken. I hope for the Country's sake and those who serve her overseas that we've seen the last of Cankles Clinton. That's why it matters you piece of human excrement!

That is the problem with too many of the Newsvine posters, Dennis. You take the time to sit in front of your computers and post your political comments (which really is a form of activism) but won't get involved where it really counts. All you have to do is cut and paste the two amendments, print them out, sign them, and pass them on to family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, and try to get people in your community to organize a local grassroots group to circulate and collect the petitions. Get one person in your community to verify with your Secretary of State how many state-wide valid signatures would be required to force your state to call for the constitutional convention to pass these amendments (and any other that you might want to propose and circulate.) That is the only way that "We the People" can really take back the power of their government.

Joe in Albany

Sen. Johnson had the common sense to let the matter drop, knowing nothing good ever comes from pursuing a discussion with a woman having a hissy fit, especially in a public forum.

BTW, what’s with the Coke bottle glasses? Did she think she would get some sympathy if she showed up looking like a nerd-girl??

God I hope she runs in 2016. I want to see REAL fear in the faces of Republicans.

What would you know about divorce? You are just resentful that a woman can kick grown men's asses

Very cool. A kindered soul.

I thought Hiliary would have been a good candidate in 2008. I would never vote for her now after she said, "What difference does it make?" Hiliary and Obama and his ENTIRE administration lied to the taxpayers for weeks. How could ANYONE vote for that?

CoCo, who do you think your kidding--you wouldn't vote for Hillary or any other democrat for President.

CoCo -

The leeches will vote for anybody that promises them more freebies.

Funny, Lying left, she is more popular than EVRYONE in Congress. She has also been praised by a healthy share of the 'non-Teahadist' Republicans. So basically, you have nothing.

Shes smart, successful and professional and she put the mysoginist duo Johnson and John 'I was at a TV show and couldnt be bothered' McCAin back in their respective cages.

You got beat, lying Left, your candidate, your party and your silly austerity ideas. I know, Lying Left, LOSING an election is hard. And I know its hard for you to accept that a Black Man and a strong Woman have power in this country.

I am enjoying your petty insults and whimpering though. Youir attitude may taste like sh$%, but it goes real well with wine (burp)

Grow up Dev, you're what my father used to refer to as a "Punk".

good for her; a lot of worthless sperm out there!!!

oh shut up - you sound like a little boy without manners - does calling any woman a dog make you feel like a man - hey if that does not do it for you go buy an assault weapon - oh right - you already have one of those right? that should help you compensate for your inadequacies -

the dev...I think you've got your omnipotence confused with your impotence. If you have to post something twice to get attention, maybe Daycare isn't the right place to show your intelligence.

for ever dem: ... Honey, you sound like a "little girl" without manners. I have never thought of Hillary as a dog but I do see her as an "Old Cow."

Now that's funny - because it has been revealed that sales of viagra for white conservative men has gone through the roof recently since they discovered there's a good chance they soon will be losing their other cure for their erectile dysfunction: their high-powered assault rifle and 100-round ammunition clip.

Note to Speaker Boehner: President Obama isn't trying to annihilate the GOP - you guys are doing a good job of that yourselves, based on your misogyny and xenophobia

Diane, white conservative men dont need viagra as long as we stay away from ugly liberal women. FYI, there are many liberals own ar15s, but none own assult rifles unless they have the proper permits. Learn what an assult rifle is then come back and make a smart statement.

Very ignorant comment.

Gee Gary .... what an ugly little post at 25.6.

Loved this however . . .

Learn what an assult rifle is then come back and make a smart statement.

I'm not sure any of us know what assult rifles are. If you're going to insult Diane I'd suggest you work on being a little smarter yourself. In the meantime, no worries about liberal women - we can smell you a mile away and cross the street to make sure we don't step in anything you might have left behind.

Looks The Dev has a 'woman' problem. It appears Hilllary is a bigger man than him.....and his little impotent gun thingy.