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House Republicans are discussing the prospect of a short-term extension in the nation's debt limit to avoid fault and give negotiations between lawmakers and the White House more time to succeed.
Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman and erstwhile GOP vice presidential candidate, told reporters at House Republicans' retreat that members were "discussing the virtue of a short term debt limit extension."
Ryan elaborated that the idea would be to raise the nation’s borrowing authority for a few months and tie the matter into discussions with the White House and Senate on the other fiscal issues facing the country, such as the automatic spending cuts associated with the sequester and how to fund the government in the next fiscal year.
The comment is a significant development because it suggests there is movement in the House GOP Conference to avoid the debt limit when it's scheduled to hit in February, and instead shift the political battle in their favor by transforming the debate into a fight over shutting down the government or offsetting $110 billion dollars in cuts to defense and domestic programs.
When asked by NBC News whether he believed the House GOP Conference was unified enough to not have a repeat of the fiscal cliff fiasco, when many Republican lawmakers were reluctant to support plans by the GOP leadership, Ryan said, “We want people to have clear view of what's coming so there are no surprises, that means setting expectations accordingly so we can move forward in a unified basis.”
Ryan spent the morning with House Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich., briefing members about the upcoming “triple threat” of fiscal issues to be played out in Washington over the late winter and spring. GOP aides tell NBC News the talks are part of an effort by the Republican leadership to gauge the mood of the conference as well as map out the best possible path for the party in the next few months, so far they consider the response from members to be "positive."
The retreat is the House GOP’s annual occasion for members to talk to leadership, relax with their spouses and kids and also learn from communication professionals about to contour their message to fit the electorate. In light of the drubbing the GOP received amongst women and minorities in the 2012 election, the retreat will feature a seminar titled: “Coalitions-Discussion on Successful Communication with Minorities and Women.”
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Need long term deal. Allow sequester to go through. Short term deals will just upset the economy and probably get out rating get lowered again.
That may be what the GOP wants to happen. Don't forget their oft stated number one priority. Getting our rating lowered didn't seem to bother them last time they caused it to happen.
The rating was lowered because our President is too incompetent to present a plan with specifics.
ski. The rating was lowered because the GOP House was about to put the US in default on their debts.
Herron your correct. Bohener and the Boys..Cantor don't care. they already have their Millions!
The dems in office have just as much money as the repubs. Both are crooks.
The GOP has decided it may be a good idea to pay our bills? Wow. Perhaps reason may prevail after all.
Future spending and the debt limit are two different discussions.
Note the GOP had no problem racking up debt under Bush. The common belief by the GOP base was summarized perfectly by Darth Cheney: "Ronald Reagan proved that deficits don't matter".
"Ronald Reagan proved that deficits don't matter" The truth hurts doesn't it!
I was a Marine during the last govt shutdown. I remember calling my wife from Kuwait one evening. She was frantic, If I didn't get my paycheck we could not pay rent. Can you imagine how helpless I felt- on the other side of the world, serving my country. My young wife, who moved far from home to be with me worried about being evicted.
Dole and Gingrich brought that about and Clinton Won Back the House. The same thing will happen with Bohener and the crew!
Ah yes. Paul Ryan. The Libertarian lap dog for the Koch brothers speaks. (The own him. Just look it up.)
What cave had Lyin' Ryan been hiding in since he and Mittens had their butts handed to them last Nov?
And too back the Koch Bros and Seldon lost hundreds of millions in the process! It made me so sad that I laughed for an entire day!
Will Karl Rove ever show his face in public again?
Apparently the Republicans will save Americans from Obama. Second time in a row in the last 6 weeks they've compromised. They now lead Obama 2-0.
Ski. You really can't believe what you posted, unless you don't have a clue.
Hey ski - the only reason I've been reading your posts is for entertainment only........
thanks for proving that even underedjumakated people can type.......
damn....did I spell that right?
I wonder if ANY Republicans took ANY negotiating courses AT ALL???
These guys just keep playing checkers...when the Democrats are playing chess!
The democrats are playing go fish, which is what they'll be telling their welfare recipient base to do when the money runs out and t hey starve in the streets.
Smile..Well put!
Keep pushing it off little by little into 2014 please. That way it will be fresh in voters minds that the DEADBEAT GOP congressmen won't legislate but would rather hold the US economy hostage.
This is rather simple. Remove the Forcible Rape sentence from the GOP Platform. Indicate a way for the Hispanic to get a green card and not go to jail; and find a way to increase the age of SS to 68 and cut in half the yearly increases. Leave Medicare alone and cut the Defense Department in half, (the Generals and Staff. This is worth 50 Billion a year. there were only 50 Generals after WW2.. Get out of Afghanistan this year and don't leave troops. Cut in half funding for other countries... worth 100 Billion! Done move on to something else. Stop the constant fighting with the President
dent as this seems to hurt the partyf
How about we send the Mexicans home to their country, the exact same way Mexico d oes to every illegal immigrant in Mexico? Get out of Afghanistan? Obama has twice as many troops there than Bush did and more service men and women were killed in his shorter time in office than when Bush was leader. Stupid.
Your left out the Kids killed in Iraq 6000 plus and the 50,000 injured under Bush and Cheney. Tthey did not fund the War and the Republicans will wear it forever. McCain would still have us over there!
Well let's see how honest Ryan is this time if he commits to a position after he claimed to run that sub-3 hour marathon in about 4 hours on the record, lied that Obama is cutting seniors' medicare payments by $700 billion, and is he changing his name to Rand from Ryan to follow his economics idol Ayhn yet, that tough survival of the fittest atheist lady who wrote the book he makes his staff read? Oh and that past of his living off the government dole in gov not private jobs most of his life starting at getting full social security survivor benefits when his Dad passed away and their family was pretty well off anyway (probably had a nice insurance policy), maybe he should give a little back to those who really need it. This guy has never had to work a day in his life, he had a little fun at a fast food job they say just to see what they other side was like probably. He is the future of that party, a big lie from here on out with voter suppression on top.
Syphilis & gonorrhea poll higher than the GOP by Americans . Also regarded as less harmful.
That's what dems are most familiar with to make a comparison... Couldn't use personal responsibility as those are too big of words for them
People, when are we going to say enough is enough? These idiots in D.C. keep talking about being fiscally responsible, how responsible is it to increase our debt? We are already over a TRILLION dollars, that's with a "T". If any of us ran a company like that we would be canned in an instant, why is it ok for them to keep raising the debt? As it is now our grandkids will be paying for the sins of the present. Enough is enough, let us go into default!
They polled Obama supporters who thought those ere cute ethnic names.
And, these guys just gave themselves another raise. What kind of coverage did that get, what kind of outrage?
They are really not doing that good of a job.
Very little, very sad.
Actually there was not a raise. Stopping that raise was part of the Cliff deal on 1/1/13 that the Tea Stains failed to act on.
1/1/13. The day the Tea Party became nothing but the punchline to a bad joke.
Well that's a step in the right direction.
Obama initiated the pay raise
EO – Pay increase
The EO it requires that Congress pass a budget … something they haven't done in over 3 years.
If you make $16 an hour and you have not had a pay raise in the last 2 years and now if you wait just another 2 months you might get pay raise of 8¢ per hour or for a 40 hour work week you will get an additional $3.20 weekly. If you make $70,000 a year it will be an increase of only $350.00 per year after having no pay increase for over 2 years.
On Thursday (12-27-2012), Obama issued an executive order that would lift the freeze and implement a 0.5% across-the-board increase starting the first pay period after March 27, 2013.
President Obama and Congress agreed in the fall to maintain the freeze that began in January 2011 through the end of the current continuing resolution. Obama recommended a 0.5% pay increase next year for feds when Congress passes a budget. It remains unclear when or if that will happen.
(1/1/2013) - In the fiscal cliff deal the Senate added a last-minute addition to the bill that would prevent a $900 pay raise for members of Congress from taking effect in March.
The debt is 100% the responsibility of the Republicans. They have, for over three decades, intentionally run up the debt as part of their "starve the beast" philosophy. That tactic has completely failed in its objective to reduce the size of government (in fact GW Bush massively increased the size of the federal government, even creating a new cabinet level bureaucracy) however they have succeeded in running up a huge debt.
Below is a right winger ADMITTING that their strategy is to INTENTIONALLY increase the debt.
Peter17
“The real winner with this legislation is the Tea Party and Grover Norquist. Their mission has NEVER been to protect the top 2% or anyone else. It is to force the end to "Big Government" in Washington DC.
The Tea Party was born because neither Democrats or Republicans were ever in the mood to cut spending and reduce the size of government. By handing out the pork to the folks back home, they kept on getting re-elected. That means the TP needed a different approach, and they found one - "Starve the Beast". If you cannot get Congress to pass legislation to lower spending, prevent them from raising the tax revenue needed to run "Big Government". Therefore they oppose tax increases of any kind on anyone. Less money will eventually mean smaller government.
So what does Obama do?? He makes almost all the Bush tax cuts permanent, cutting federal tax revenue over the next 10 years by $4 trillion. The TP probably cannot believe it because Obama has signed a "death warrant" on big government. Can you imagine anyone voting to raise taxes by trillions of dollars any time soon??? Not likely. The only way to get the country onto some kind of sustainable financial course now will be even more trillions of spending cuts than people were anticipating. Say goodbye to big government over the next 10-20 years. There now is no way to fund even a scaled back big government in Washington DC, thanks to Obama.”
What a bunch or crap! Obama just runs the printing presses. We have been printing money and buying our own debt... No need to raise taxes. Sorry, but Obama's goal is to collapse the economy, bring the wealthy down to the lazy and irresponsible level (remember redistribution of wealth) It's all about his socialist upbringing.
The federal reserve is independent of the federal government for those who didn't know...Kent...
I don't care what they do, as long as they do not cut welfare and food-stamps. They might even make me get a job. I won't worry about that untill Obama outlaws drug testing for job applicants. Ha-Ha. I'm one of the unemployable. These tests aren't needed for Govt. aid. I WROTE THIS FOR ALL OF YOU CRYING BOTTOM FEEDERS.
Mr. Lying Ryan, you and the other Obstructionist, should read our CONSTITUTION, you all seem to have forgotten, it, I will be glad to send you a copy and mark for you what your job entails. But gain, and the other repubs NEED TO UNDERSTAND, you lost the election get over it, we the people spoke and we told you we did not like what you promised. You and Mr. Cantor need to go back to school.
Then put it on you freekinn credit card... I'm tired of enslaving future generations with debt you libtard Dems keep buying votes with. How about for once putting YOUR money where your mouth is!!! It has nothing about losing an election, it's about fiscal responsibility... How about instead of referring to losing the election lets call it what is was buying the vote if the lazy and irresponsible, and obama phones...
Kent,and the people in this country are tired of hearing that BS worrying about future generations when you don't even care what happens to this generation. The Rethuglican party only worries about the black man in the White House,so we are tired of hearing about future generations while trying to destroy this one. Someone posted earlier about leading a horse to water. The Democrats would lead a horse to water and try to make him drink,while the Rethuglicans would lead a horse to drink and try to make him water.
why are we not cutting spending before raising the debt limit. worked quite well for ginrich. but then again, we had folks that stood up for what they believed,huh.
That was when Newt was removed as speaker by his own party, correct?
Did you really just patronize gingrich? The man who ruined the clinton era and brought us gwb junior. Really? REALLY???!!! The man is a powerwhore. Gingrich should up and spontaneously combust. We'd have had a lucrative healthcare system near the end of the clinton era and maybe even caught osama had he not spent a year trying to impeach bill over what is in reality next to nothing of import. Gingrich is 30% responsible for the ACA and the current economic nightmare we're in. He headed the plan to repeal glass steagal (a 72% republican congress) and bought us the financial crash of 2008. Gingrich should have been fired by the voters but, guess not.
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Suggested House Republican Retreat Agenda Items
Have breakfast paid for by lobbyists
How to stop talking about “legitimate rape” and insulting women
Science 101
Creating tax breaks and tax shelters for millionaire campaign donors
Math course on counting to 218 votes
A primer on the stock market crash of 1929 and how you could be responsible for
the next one.
Coup d’etat prevention and planning
Trust falls
Big-picture thinking
Practice interacting with women and minority voters
How to increase our approval ratings: What root canals, traffic jams, cockroaches
and head lice are doing right
Remedial hurricane recovery
Your inner Tea Party and you
Have dinner paid for by lobbyists
Suggested Democrat Retreat Agenda Items
Keep taking money from the working to give to lazy and irresponsible
Keep funding to the breeders for more Democrat voters
How to reward the illegals to vote Democrat
Keep telling women that it's their bodies and someone else should pay for them.
Keep blaming the hard working and responsible for all your problems.
Blame Bush for another 4 years of political failures.
Moderate agenda: educate the fringes of both major parties because they're both stupid propaganda machines with their heads up their asses. Most poor people and jobless people would love to find a job/higher paying job. Tell us where they are, because from personal experience I can tell you they're not in NYC.
Patrick93- You want a higher paying job??? Get A job and work it the best you can. Work all the overtime you can!!! AND go to school in the evenings and in 7 years of this you will be qualified for a better job like I DID!!!
Kent, my problem is not qualification. I make 400,000 a year working for D-Wave. I'm talking about others that don't have the resources to get more education. It's not free...
Ryan is so evil that even his no good old mother was out trying to screw retirees out of their Social Security just like he was.
What kind of a scumbag woman supports her son's efforts to take away money from people who worked hard for that money and paid into the system for decades?
Forget the fact that Ryan himself received Social Security money when he was in college, these evil scumbags don't deserve to be on this earth any longer and belong in hell.
The Republicans made there concessions and raised taxes and kept the cuts for the lazy and irresponsible. So Dems it's now time to do you part and make sime budget cuts otherwise NO debt increase! We have kicked the can down the road long enough!!!
What you don't realize is the democrats and Teas are working together to starve the beast and finally topple big government in a grand move to work back to a pre-(post-constitutional) era.
Democrats rely on big government... They are not trying to starve it. They are going to ride the debt horse until it drops and then they will find someone else to blame and leach from...
Obama has no need to negotiate. He got his tax proposal passed and those precious spending cuts Republicans are demanding are coming forward in the Budget Control Act sequesters. Just let them take effect. VOILA! Task accomplished. Even if congress passes out some wild-eyed legislation, it doesn't have the necessary votes to override a presidential veto. We will not default for Obama has the constitutional authority, pledged upon his oath, to meet the monetary obligations of the United States. And when put to the acid test before the Nine Wise Men and Women at SCOTUS, he will prevail on the matter. There have been greater challenges between a president and congress, and in virtually every instance the president has won the skirmish. Go for it.
This ISN'T a GOP vs. DEMS issue, it is an AMERICAN issue. I could say that we got into this mess by the gross negligent spending the Democrats are known for, I could but I won't. Stop playing the blame game and BLAME THEM ALL from BOTH parties. Neither party knows what the hell to do. How do you pay down your own debt? It's not rocket science people, maybe these idiots in D.C. could learn from the average Joe on how to manage your finances.
Exactly!!
Who doesn't understand that this money has already been appropriated?
Anyone not get that fact?
Your right. Problem is to stop the increases every year with the Entitlements. Increase the age of SS to 68 and then to 69. Stop the War in Afghanistan this year. Stop the funding of other Countries now!
God here we go again,, greedy selfish politician who all work together so they can screw the American people out of more taxes. Forget fixing the problem of over spending greedy government. Why fix that when they are ALL getting rich. This is the house the servants have destroyed from within, and now the servants own the house because they are killing all the home owners and making slaves out of them. Lets put a ban on this criminal governments spending, put them on unemployment, stop paying for their 1-2 million dollar days on the golf coarse,, But NO..raise the debt ceiling so they can again double the debt with their greedy ass spending and Arming our enemies for wars. Raise the limit so they can Arm Egypt and others with war planes and tanks,, What is the true deceptions here people,, Silent idiot puppets who get screwed by a black man and scream,, harder boy, harder, push harder boy
Hmmmm, who is it that has spent more money than ANY other president over the past four years, wasn't G.W Bush, it is drum roll.....................OBAMA. So the next time you DEMS want to place blame look in the mirror. Dems have spent, spent, spent, spent, spent, and what do we have to show for it? You all that voted for change I hope you are happy with it, because it is YOUR children and great grand children and mine to that will be paying for it.
I know everything in the world that is wrong is Bush's fault, even though he has been out of office over 4 years now. MAN UP!
Prez will call that bluff and make the $trillion coin if the turkeys in repub house keep going bonkers to take down the world economy (except their new masters China, the secessionists' ally).