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The White House is hitting back at the National Rifle Association for its web video, which refers to President Obama's children.
"Most Americans agree that a president's children should not be used as pawns in a political fight," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said in a statement. "But to go so far as to make the safety of the president's children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly."
Here's the transcript of the NRA's ad:
"Are the president’s kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. But he’s just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. Protection for their kids. And gun-free zones for ours.”
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Left or right, both seem to miss the point of the NRA's commercial. Everyone in the United States deserves the freedoms and protections provided by the Consititution. It should not be for the priveledged few. The tragedy of violence by deranged people is unfortunate but unless we change the manner in which we deal with mental health, unavoidable. These people will inflict harm whether or not they have a gun. Just as criminals will continue to commit crimes whether or not it is illegal to do so, guns are not the problem. People are the problem, should we eliminate this problem by passing new laws, I doubt that will work either. We as a nation need to quit wasting money and resources on totally useless programs that serve no purpose. The purpose of our government is to provide an atmosphere where individuals can enjoy the benefits of freedom not nickel and dime us to death. If mental illness is the cause of all this violence, pass laws and fund programs to treat it. Our elected officials and government employees don't need to pay lip service to this problem and other serious problems facing our society, they need to do what they were elected and hired to do, period.
But without the Priveledged Few who would run our Corporate-Sponsored Oligarchy we delude ourselves into believing is a Democratic Republic?
And if the masses are able to enjoy the same rights and freedoms as The Few, what inspiration is left to drive the masses to try to become like The Few?
Such concepts of "equality" and "fairness" smack of socialism and anti-americanism.
After all, just because The Declaration of Independence SAYS "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal" it does not MEAN they are equal, only that they are "created equal", meaning they all have two eyes, two arms, two legs, and are the same carbon-based bags of mostly water. Other than that, that's where equality ends.
MORE DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION>>>>>>
NEW ORLEANS — Former New Orleans Mayor, DEMOCRAT Ray Nagin was indicted Friday on 21 corruption charges including wire fraud, bribery and money laundering.
The charges come from a City Hall corruption investigation that already has resulted in guilty pleas by two former city officials and two businessmen.
The counts against Nagin include wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, filing false tax returns and conspiracy.
Greg Meffert, a former technology official and deputy mayor under Nagin, pleaded guilty in 2010 to charges he took bribes and kickbacks in exchange for steering city contracts to businessman Mark St. Pierre. Anthony Jones, who served as the city's chief technology officer in Nagin's administration, also pleaded guilty to taking payoffs.
Meffert cooperated with the government in its case against St. Pierre, who was convicted in May 2011 of charges that include conspiracy, bribery and money laundering.
What is an OK mental illness and what is not, phobias is a form of mental illness. If I don't like spiders and cant be near them then should I be barred firearm ownership?
The people who would be denied guns, are those deemed to be potentially violent, or hurt themselves. Not people who have phobias or other minor maladies.
Its about keeping the schizophrenics and psychotics away from guns.
Let me ask this:
If you're afraid of spiders, and I sell you this fully automatic, short-barreled shotgun with 100 round drum clip, will you open fire on a spider?
If the answer is yes, then your mental illness should bar you from purchasing it.
If the answer is no, then here you go - enjoy.
The NRA has sunk to a new low. Politicians need security, for national security reasons. We cant have their family members being kidnapped and used as political pawns, or for extortion purposes. Or targeted by political extremists looking to kill for revenge. Everyone elses kids are not in that position.
Meaning everyone else's kids are less important - less valuable. Our politicians come from a higher class than ordinary citizens. They are more valuable - more important than us - the mere chattel who exist solely to work and pour our hard-earned dollars into the Corporations who fund our Politicians, to grease the wheels with our blood, sweat and tears.
Ours is not to reason why, ours is to work, pay taxes and die.
At least, that's what you're saying. I'm disagreeing with you. I place more value on my life than on Barack Obama's. I place more value on the life of my children than his. I hold my family in higher value than all of Congress. And why? Aside from a few million years of evolution that has us all wired in about the same manner, if the Obamas, or all of Congress were to simply vanish from the face of the earth, I would still be here. My children would still be here. My kith and kin would still be here.
And elected officials can easily be replaced. The world will not end when they are gone.
No, meaning they arent political targets, the way a politicians family is.. We need to protect politicians families, the same way we protect all national security interests. It has nothing to do with anyone elses kids being less important. Everyone elses kids arent being specifically targeted because of who their parent is.
The NRA went off half cocked (pun intended) before they heard the President's proposal that actually agreed with some of their recommendations:
through COPS hiring grants.
school resource officers, school psychologists, social workers and
counselors.
develop emergency management plans.
implement emergency plans.
staff to create safer and more nurturing environments.
Then what are they targeted for? Because kidnapping of political children hasn't been news since, oh, I don't know, The Lindburg Baby?
Sure, a large percentage of kidnappings in the US are by one divorced parent or another, but not all.
Some even come with ransom demands - now who would kidnap and ransom a child, unless the parents were of some affluence - meaning they are specifically targeted because of who the parent is.
Your logic is flawed.
Obama/Biden thought nothing of Grandstanding and using others children to gain their political Agenda so America can have a mom apple pie warm fuzzy feeling stage show!
But you don't understand, it is ok for the prez to create photo ops with kids but not someone else mentioning kids. lol
Those kids were there because they wrote letters specifically calling for gun control. Quite articulately too. Since kids have been the main target of these mass killers, its appropriate he have them there. Since gun laws are about saving lives, especially childrens lives.
Yes, a bit too articulately. More than likely these kids had letters written for them, quite possibly by the same team that writes the President's speeches.
I suggest you listen to their interviews. They were quite capable of speaking for themselves.
But hey, when you are looking for excuses, you can find a boogie man in anything, cant you..
Just wondering, if the president manages, in his second term, to accomplish his long standing hidden agenda of banning the sell and ownership of all firearms in the USA, can we the people then revoke his recently signed law granting himself lifetime Secret Service protection? Seems to me, using his own liberal logic, such a ban would eliminate everyone's concern about about the need for armed protection from the criminal & crazy elements of our society.
So, you think you know the President's "hidden agenda"? Give us all a break. You know squat. He does have an agenda on figuring out a way to minimize events like those those that happened in Newtown. And please do a small amount of homework and find out the complete story on "lifetime" Secret Service. Tune out of Fox and Rush for just the few minutes it will take you to do this homework and you might actually learn something that is true. I know it will be difficult, but give it a shot.
For a 65 year old person, you really haven't learned that much in life. Perhaps you are the one who should do your homework instead of getting your news from Jon Stewart, MSNBC and other liberal spin shows. I actually read the bill (H.R.6620 [112th]) from the government's website. Did you? As far as this president's agenda I take him at his word. I watched his famous speech attacking and criticizing conservatives for clinging to their guns and religion. Doesn't sound to me like he has any use for either. You probably don't either, huh? How about the video taped speech of his AG telling an audience that we have to end the gun culture in America even if we have to brainwash people. Sounds like an agenda to me, hidden or otherwise.
Is this what you read?
H. R. 6620
To amend title 18, United States Code, to eliminate certain limitations on the length of Secret Service Protection for former Presidents and for the children of former Presidents.
Yes, along with this summary by the Library of Congress:
The summary below was written by the Congressional Research Service, which is a nonpartisan division of the Library of Congress.
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12/28/2012--Passed Senate without amendment.
(This measure has not been amended since it was introduced.
The summary of that version is repeated here.) Former Presidents Protection Act of 2012 - Amends the federal criminal code to eliminate certain limitations on the length of Secret Service protection for former Presidents and their spouses and children.
Authorizes the Secret Service to protect:
(1) former Presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes, except that protection of a spouse shall terminate in the event of remarriage; and
(2) children of a former President who are under age 16.
While the NRA has made a lot of tasteless and cowardly comments, in this case I think they made an entirely fair and valid point. Of course, though, the President of the United States and his family are potential targets in the way that most of us are not, and so while it may be a valid point, it's not a conclusive argument.
Politicians families must be protected for national security reasons. That should be obvious to anyone. We cant have them kidnapped and used to extort the government, or targeted by enemies for revenge.
Their families have bullseyes hanging over them, thats an incredible sacrifice in of itself. To denigrate politicians for having protection for their families and children, is so incredibly low, its beyond pathetic.
The NRA just proved what ignorant selfish dirtbags they are.
See my above related post, illustrating the differences between the Political Caste and Citizen Caste, to see why our Politicians are so much more valuable than any of us, mere citizens.
And while I'm at it, I'll add down here - ANY politician, ANY elected official who cannot or would not say to a kidnapper "I'm sorry, go ahead and shoot my family, I will not bow to your demands" does not deserve to lead a nation.
Not.
Our leaders, and their families, are like any national security interest. We need to secure their safety, the same way we secure any of our security assets. And a politician should not be put in a position to have to sacrifice their family.
All im hearing is selfish excuses. Spare us...
More Justice - Your posts are right on. Some people are in denial about anything Obama does and will disagree without thinking logically. The failure to see that every President's child in modern times has had armed protection, just shows lack of ability to put hatred aside and to have an independent thought.
NOT
Shall we take grenades and automatic weapons from our soldiers because the average citizen can't have them?
Did you miss the part of Obama's proposal that funded armed guards at schools?
And all I'm hearing is posturing by someone who has a personal agenda to push, but neither the power, money or authority to do so.
But hop on that bandwagon, circle 'em 'round!
When it matters most, the rest of us will be glad to let you fend for yourselves - we'll even bet on how long you last.
You go Joe....check out what Joe Scarborough has to say about his repugnant party..
"This is not about protecting the Second Amendment. This is about gun manufacturers making millions and millions and millions of dollars. This is about retailers making millions and millions and millions of dollars. Do you know how much money these people have made over the slaughter of 20 innocents in Newtown? Do you know how much richer these rich gun manufacturers have gotten over the past month and how the NRA uses that tragedy to gin up fears and websites use that tragedy to gin up fears that they're coming to take your guns away? Hey, got a message for you. They can't take your guns away.”
Joe Scarborough
Even more on point-
The NRA’s fabricated but escalating view of the Second Amendment was ridiculed by former U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Warren Burger—a conservative appointed by President Richard Nixon—in a PBS Newshour interview in 1991, where he called it “one of the greatest pieces of fraud—I repeat the word ‘fraud’—on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”
More cut and paste from sea, do you own an independent thought?
We are sacrificing our children and our citizens to this false notion that some people owning the firearms that are currently legal have some chance to bring down the US government, tyrannical or not. There is no way anyone or any group of people with semi automatic weapons stand a chance against the military. Dragging this old canard around has got to stop so we can have a reasonable discussion. This idea that you are going to defend yourself against the government is a fantasy! I am not saying the second amendment is wrong but its actual use as a bulwark against tyranny in this day is unrealistic and we need to stop pretending that it is. When the SCOTUS upheld the ban on automatic weapons they proved this argument false since you would need to be as well armed as the government you would be fighting.
There are real atrocities that are happening every day that take away our lives and our liberties and they are being caused by the proliferation of guns in our society.
Do I want to ban all guns, no, do I support the President's proposals, yes.
Oh look, the idiot moved articles. You wouldnt care if obama became a tyrant (not that he will or has the chance to), so you dont really care about the 2nd amendment. You probably would have cared if bush did, but youd be too afraid to have done anything about it. Not everyone is scared like you and will forfeit their lives for their government, that is what the 2nd amendment promotes, it wasnt written for cowards like you.
But keep cutting and pasting this idiotic post like you have 300times already, it just proves what a dope you are.
Small arms were effective in Libya and Syria they held govenment forces long enough that member of these oppressive forces recognized that they were being used to oppress the people. That gave them the chance to switch sides and support freedom
Darrel Scott, the father of a girl murdered at Columbine wrote this:
both parties have opinions, both parties have facts, both have the bill of rights, both have a will of determination, but really all i see is an arguement going nowhere...both parties have tactics implied to scare people into submission of their opinion...lets not let the OPINION of one man change what hasn't been changed for a while.
Take guns from the good people so the bad people can just walk in and do what they want. I don't think so. No law will keep guns out of the hands of bad people. Inforce the laws we have and throw the criminals away for life if a gun is involed and really give them hard time.(no tv, computers or anything). HARD TIME Like prison should be anyway. Learn from overseas prisons. If your own family does'nt want to support you in prison then I sure the hell don't. And for OBAMA, use your own damn kids in your commercials and leave the already suffering kids of other families alone.
He's only skeptical about it when it comes to other peoples children.
Elitist Hypocrite.
Barry's Executive Orders are Crap.
He punted afraid of being impeached and "The Ban" will be DOA.
"I like your christ. I do not like your christians. They are so unlike your christ" ghandi
Why don't the White House answer the question? President Obama did use other peoples kids as a prop for his gun control proposals.
So obama can exploit children and it is fine, but when the NRA mentions his to show he is a hypocrite, it is bad.
Yea you libs dont have mental issues at all.
Tru
You act suprised...main stream media whores have been showing things that only try to make the pres look good and when something doesn't swing that way they are all over it. Can't wait to see what kind of tripe the left media is going to sling in the months to come.
NRA was right on the money. You know why Obama wants to keep the schools as gun free zones? Anybody?? Becaues the fake massacre at Sandy Hook did not guilt us all into happily handing over our guns. I will guarantee you there will be another and another after that. A school, a sports arena, a shopping mall. Some gun free zone. The government will orchestrate as many false flag crises as they have to until we are all duped into handing them over. Even though we know without any doubt that taking guns from us does nothing to stop crime.
The wall street scams continue even today with Obama at the helm but we don't hear anything about the bailouts still going on. They are tranferring all the wealth from the people to all the bankers right under our noses. Our government is so corrupt it blows your mind. We are on the fast track to economic disaster. It isn't the Democrats or the Republicans it's both of them. It's all of them folks and we are screwed.
"fake massacre"???
What are you smoking?
I am not smoking anything. I simply watched the videos and unless you have too-you have no right to comment on it. I would suggest you go out to YouTube and look at those people. Put yourselves in their shoes and think about how you would look and feel if your child had been killed just two days before. There was not a puffy eye, not a single tear shed from even one of them. The 'father' Robbie Parker who made his little speech to the media is seen just before going in front of the camers and he is clearly laughing and does not look the least bit upset. That was enough for me. Something is seriously wrong with the whole story. Sandy Hook was a fraud.
If you actually think a mass killing of 20 elementry kids and 6 school employees can be faked and yet this guy Te'o can't make up a fake dead girlfriend story to get heaps of undeserved sympathy you need to stop drinking Tea Party tea, it kills brain cells. It's rapidly becoming impossible to fool anyone, just look at how well the GOP did in the 2012 presidential campaign where they believed erroneously they could simply nullify the truth by repeating the lie on camera over and over... remember "Jeep is moving to China" in Ohio when Romney was so deparate he did not even deny what Jeep was telling him and everyone else which was Jeep was not "moving" anything. Remember how the Romney campaign staged a soup kitchen photo shoot but could not bring themselves to actually feed the disgusting hungry homeless people so they just forced their way to the kitchen at closing time and took pictures of themselves posing as though they were washing clean pots and pans? Consider there are both sides of the political spectrum in Newtown if there was anything but five and six year old bodies with 3-11 bullets in each (sick! sick! sick!) we would know by now. Seriously, telling us to look on Youtube? Seriously have you seen the spoofs, jokes, and other outright nonsense on Youtube? Get a grip you are telling us and the grieving parents of 20 slaughtered little kids it's all fake cuz you "MizzC" says so, in spite of the bodies in the morgue, etc etc etc... my disgust for you is beyond words.
Mizz
C'mon we all know the massacre happened. What i question is that whithin a couple days after,no pictures, no more details. no footage....nothing. Unlike columbine and the theatre. I believe something is being covered up or the left media is giving us just enough to make people afraid of assault weapons. But make no mistake...Kids lost their lives that day.
As usual the political right (distinguished from "factual right") are accusing the Democrats and Obama of what the right is doing and then running and hiding till the smoke clears. Terms like "tyrant" and "dictactor" are being tossed around, when any complete moron knows actual Hitler or Stalin would have rounded up all the dissendent folks, mostly GOP I would imagine, for a mass grave long before now. In fact I don't even see anything to complain about here in the USA, life at least has been steadily improving since Obama first took office, and things are actually looking up with more energy options in the future and more buying power for the consumer than ever before, and we may be able to get a handle on global warming if coal and oil are eventually eliminated. What exactly is it that the GOP and Fox News are trying to prove by inciting riots, "succeeding from the union" (how'd that work out for you the 1st time?), and hinting needing a full on civil war / revolution? Whatever tea the tea party drinks apparently kills brain cells, because personally if I were the president I would be considering calling out some folks and asking them if they are declaring their citizenship null and void as they are posing a terrorist threat by inciting violent action against the government. Any American knows they need to respect political office, we the people voted our leaders into office, and above all offices is the President of the United States. What moron thinks they can attack President Obama and not be viewed as attacking the US itself?
How do you "follow" Barney's nonsensical rant above? Like most liberal rants that vilify the right, claiming they are solely responsible for the "division" in society today, Barney's rant FAILS to accept the lefts responsibility.
Fear mongering and divisiveness were the standard template throughout Obama's 1st term, through his campaign for a 2nd term, and continues to this day since his re-election. Most importantly the template of "coveting" your neighbors wealth.
Obama has made it clear to the "have nots" that it is "unfair" that your neighbor has more than you do. Making those who "have not" jealous of others success, convincing the "have nots" that it is UNFAIR others have more.
And then you wonder why people are arming themselves, fearful of "home invasions" and being "victimized" by criminals.
With the Democrats rhetoric of "the evil rich" STEALING wealth from the less well off, it makes it seem as though it is morally acceptable to take from others who seem better off than you..............think about it!
And you wonder why people now feel the need to protect themselves.
There is no fear here, no threats. Putting down Bin Laden has made the world a safer place, no argument from anyone about that, and frankly Obama has proven time and time again he is an exquisite statesman and president by tolerating slander and attacks on him personally even with multi-million dollar campaigns of two movies and a book (rascist propoganda painting Obama as a "King") yet our President does not lash back or even get mad faced with obvious threats ("if Obama is elected I'll either be in jail or dead this time next year" ...Ted Nugent). Again I say thee nay, it is you the very wrong "right" that is blaming us for your ills, look here in your post above you claim we use "fearmongering" as standard template, what exactly is it then to threaten the police and government with going Rambo using assault weapons in response to "all out attack on the 2nd ammendment" (though no GOP can actually quote any legislation that attacks anything because it's not there). It is precisely the crazy gun nut that needs to be caught and institutionalized before more mass killings can occur, precisely the type of people that are threatening killing people if someone comes for their assault rifle and clips. By the way "Mr. Use your head" applies to you above all others.
Obama uses children time and time again. He just had 4 stand behind him when he signed the gun control law. If he cab use kids so can someone disagree with him.
Big surprise.. Liberals calling people they don't like names... that's their SOP.... with Media help...
MORE DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION>>>>>>
NEW ORLEANS — Former New Orleans Mayor, DEMOCRAT Ray Nagin was indicted Friday on 21 corruption charges including wire fraud, bribery and money laundering.
The charges come from a City Hall corruption investigation that already has resulted in guilty pleas by two former city officials and two businessmen.
The counts against Nagin include wire fraud, bribery, money laundering, filing false tax returns and conspiracy.
Greg Meffert, a former technology official and deputy mayor under Nagin, pleaded guilty in 2010 to charges he took bribes and kickbacks in exchange for steering city contracts to businessman Mark St. Pierre. Anthony Jones, who served as the city's chief technology officer in Nagin's administration, also pleaded guilty to taking payoffs.
Meffert cooperated with the government in its case against St. Pierre, who was convicted in May 2011 of charges that include conspiracy, bribery and money laundering.
Oh please quoting these cases without looking at the entire spectrum, like what the GOP does on a nice sunny day of corruption? How about the last Bush presidential win where the Ohio company counting votes was found to be owned by the republicans and when the vote company was asked if they could have changed the vote if they wanted (in which case it was found the vote was falsified Bush would have lost the presidency) they swore under oath that yes the network was capable of changing the vote. The testifying individual died in an unexplained single passenger plane crash not long after. Suspiciously making further scheduled questioning and testimony impossible.... hmm. Corruption? How about buying the presidency? Tyrant? Dictactor? How about making the entire USA voting system for the president a complete lie?
Oh please quoting these cases without looking at the entire spectrum, like what the GOP does on a nice sunny day of corruption? How about the last Bush presidential win where the Ohio company counting votes was found to be owned by the republicans and when the vote company was asked if they could have changed the vote if they wanted (in which case it was found the vote was falsified Bush would have lost the presidency) they swore under oath that yes the network was capable of changing the vote. The testifying individual died in an unexplained single passenger plane crash not long after. Suspiciously making further scheduled questioning and testimony impossible.... hmm. Corruption? How about buying the presidency? Tyrant? Dictactor? How about making the entire USA voting system for the president a complete lie?
Guns DON'T Kill Children............. but Abortions DO!
Hey Barney............ where's YOUR Outrage?
Barney, my info comes from a newspaper. Are your black helicopters nearby?
ssmithlg: news as well: http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500690_162-4684431.html
This is offical CBS news report record.
"Following Last Friday's fatal accident, CBS Affiliate WOIO reported that Connell, who had recently been subpoenaed to testify in relation to a lawsuit alleging vote rigging in the 2004 Ohio election, was warned at least twice about flying his plane because his plane might be sabotaged"
BTW my comment was not that what you said was innaccurate it is that you are pointing to an ant on an anthill when the issue of corruption is neither limited to the Democrats nor that those mere charges you list are even as extensive as it gets. Far, far bigger than that.
if Obama really cares for children, he should stand up for the unborn, not condone killing them.
Silly republirabbits, Obama is our president not our dictator. It would take an act of congress to ban abortion. The abortion issue is not up to our President and I have no idea why you supposedly un-prejudiced and non-bigoted and non-biased people keep attacking the president like he is personally responsible for every issue in government you don't like. Look up "executive branch of US government" and it's powers please, and stop blaming the man we elected not because he's the problem but because you don't LIKE him.
You sir are a moron and not as "bright as you claim you are. Most people who post comments here fully understand the different branches of Government, and do not need a "genius wanna-be" to explain it to us.
If your HERO wanted to end abortion, why not use his Executive Powers to do so? Oh yeah I forgot that is used ONLY to advance liberal AGENDA. And despite your OBVIOUS HERO WORSHIP mental disorder over Obama, HE DID NOT TAKE OUT BIN LADEN.
Our military is responsible for that, Obama merely gave an order that any President would have given(except Clinton). Most of the INTEL which led to Bin Ladens compound was already EMBEDDED, long before your HERO took office.
And in this Nation we have the RIGHT to dissent and criticize the President when we do not agree with his policies. So if you wish only to read remarks PRAISING your HERO, try the White House web site.
Tired of racists pretending to actually be talking about a valid problem with President Obama but just making another false accusation? Case in point why don't you see who often used executive powers to do things prior to Obama, such as President Bush among others. You people can't hide behind weak arguments and outright lies it's pretty obivious these are personal attacks against a man who is a different color. Perhaps the attacks are actually incited by Bush's old public relations propanda man who created and runs Fox News, among other "news" and "commentary" sources who are about as unbiased as Rush Limbaugh ("I see Romney winning big!" ...who should now have credibility zero) but we hold the citizens of GOP responsible for this disgusting worthless garbage as they continue to spread it, like the bubonic plague. Willard was a horror movie before he was a presidential candidate, he was a rat with a bunch of rat friends who took over using the sewers to infiltrate innocent victim's towns. There may only be a few real sources of the crap the GOP spread, but until someone actually legislates how far you can go hiding behind "free speech" when commiting slander and liable it will continue to spread. Fox is a sewer of slander and lies, in my opinion.
Both Obama and Bush's equally incompetent for upholding the Constitution. seems every president since Woodrow Wilson has been incrementally destroying the foundation of America
How many children are being killed by drone strikes recently?
ATF killed how many children in Waco?
Fast & Furious why won't Eric Holder just co-operate? How many people have died from that ordeal?
Benghazi what a cover up~
And there it Barney Blankbrain, the ol' liberal "standby", THE RACE CARD(excuse me while I SET MY WATCH). Congratulations Barney, you made it, you passed liberal indoctrination 101. I find your rants boring and bias, you are a liberal CLOWN who makes the same one sided liberal judgements, completely oblivious to how hypocritical you sound.
I proudly come from a "racially diverse" family, my AVATAR is a picture of my Great Grandson(who looked more like Obama, than myself), and when he died of SIDS in July of last year, it broke my heart so don't presume judge others you do know.
I truly believe that most now understand what Martin Luther King meant when he challenged all of us, "to judge others by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin". After all Barney its the 21st century, not the 60's, and unlike you, most of us have "moved on".
Atleast those of us, unlike indoctrinated liberals such as yourself, who still cling to your tired old race card deck, and "fall back" on them as a defense mechanism, when you have nothing else to offer in a debate. And you are blissfully unaware how PATHETIC it makes you look. COME ON BARNEY YOUR BETTER THAN THAT....................aren't you?
Please help everyone understand Barney, why you CLAIM political bias against conservative leaning, when you obviously "cling" to liberal media outlets to base "your IDEAS". Like a typical liberal you JUDGE conservative media outlets nonfactual and bias, but let me guess Barney ol' pal, RACHELE MADCOW AND ANDERSON COOPER, are FAIR AND BALANCED.....your a joke.
Bottom line Barney, best you keep your thoughts, as well as your probable bald head, under your hat. We who comment daily read comments filled with the same liberal bias, as yours seem to be filled with, so you offer nothing new to contribute to debate.
We have our "resident liberal mantra spewers", so if you are pushing CRAZY, were all filled up here. Best to check with Fiesty and Philly to see if MSN is still hiring "liberal booble-heads". Maybe they can steer you to other liberal sites that provide more current, "liberal talking points", so you don't come off as simply REDUNDANT.
You see Barney if you researched, you would find that even some liberal media reporters, have said they to are "uncomfortable" with Obama USING children during his press conferences on this subject and can clearly see the HYPOCRISY. EVEN TOUGH YOU SEEM TO BE BLIND TO IT.
Bernard
Have you had the chance to read any of Obamas books. Just curious.
All who still say Fox News is real news and not crap to avoid:
Remember the moment when Fox News refused to recognize the Obama presidential win and actually had the news caster leave the news desk and the other commentator and walk down to the room where the voting resolution was being handled, it was like the indignant blond Fox lady was walking the cameraman to the principle of an elementry for a spanking. Remember what happened next? The expert said it was impossible for Romney to win given the current situation. Basically an "in your face" slap to everything Fox had been spewing for it's entire coverage of the vote till then. Poof there goes real reporting and real news revealing the GOP propoganda machine Fox News. Ultimately we see Romney's loss was huge with approx. 200 electorate to 300 electorate, how was that ever viewed as a close race, why all the bad polls shown on Fox?
Bottom line, people. The people who do these things are criminals. Not law abiding citizens. Gun control laws don't apply to them. They will get what they want, and kill as many people as they can. Only law abiding citizens will be affected. What part of this fact don't you idiots understand?
And when background checks are done at gunshows, which baffles me why they were never done in the first place. Never been to a show, get all my guns from licensed dealer and do the BG check. Anyway, when criminals or people that can't pass the check want to get a weapon, where do you think they are going to get their guns? lock up tight!
Actualy no the last two mass killings were done by crazy gun nuts, not criminals. But perhaps as you suggest crazy or criminal it may not matter, they may not follow laws. But we don't make it easy, we make it hard. Simply throwing up our hands "everything sucks we give up" is not an option. So we move weapons of war (mass killing capable) type of weapons as far off the street we can so they are rare to anyone beyond law enforcement and military. Makes it real easy to spot a terrorist or a mass killer.
All you people that want to live in gun free zones can do so, Just move to a gun hating city like Chicago or Ny. I know i will be looking into moving to a state that will SECEDE from you folks that are wanting to be lead around like a bunch of sheep. And before anyone says something about being rich and having that choice i am just a poor factory worker not afraid to be a grill cook or something less just to be able to have the right to protect my family. Yep let the flames start.
Look up and see if Mr King wanted weapons to protect his family? You will be in for a suprise!!!!
Just look at history Russia, Cambodia, China,Germany, all gun free and all had high rates of genocide. (HISTORY ONCE AGAIN) Read about how Austria voted Hitler into power there. OOOPS history again. I am not saying that is what would happen here but anyone that has somebody or something they care about should just read about history and folks without guns what happens. Bring up Britain that would be a good one more violent crimes after gun control. Bring Australia into it less gun deaths but way more violent crimes.
Yes this is the way i would want to live. I just hope that there are enough people with common sense to look at what really needs to be done.
Look at mental health care. Letting violent people out of there cages back into the general public. Oh lord and maybie even safes for folks firearms!!!! Yep do not look at common sense stuff.
Give up your guns and just depend on the police to protect you. What can a violent person DO to your WIFE or KIDS in the 6-10 min it takes to get there if they have there PHONE in there hands to call the police.Thats what i want to do.
Thanks for my chance to rant due to our forfathers rights to have firearms to allow me to do this!!
Please respond to this i would love some input on my thinking. Also feel free to fix any misspelled words or basic grammer mistakes.
Thanks
Drouch
The N.R.A has a point.......... why is it ok for Mr. Oblah blah to have protection for his children, but he himself is against armed guards at schools??????? makes now sense. he is not better then us. there are plenty of Ex-military returning from our most recent conflicts needing work, and not all of them have mental issues. I would gladly put a gun in their hands and say please protect our children.....................
typo correction "now" should be "no"