White House calls NRA 'repugnant,' 'cowardly' for invoking president's children in ad

 

The White House is hitting back at the National Rifle Association for its web video, which refers to President Obama's children.

"Most Americans agree that a president's children should not be used as pawns in a political fight," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said in a statement. "But to go so far as to make the safety of the president's children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly."

Here's the transcript of the NRA's ad:

"Are the president’s kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes. But he’s just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. Protection for their kids. And gun-free zones for ours.”

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I completely support the NRA's message with this add...

I have kids that are younger, and after the tragedy in Connecticut I wondered the same thing. Why is it that its ok for the President and his family to be protected by armed SS agents but it's NOT ok for my kids to be protected?

I also agree with the NRA that the ONLY thing that's going to stop a bad guy,(nut case) with a gun, is a good guy with a gun! That's why cops don't carry batons and whistles to a gun fight.

The other thing that we seem to be forgetting is, how many lives were saved because of guns? It's impossible to really know, but I can assure you that if only the bad guys had guns, we would ALL be their targets and there would be a tremendous amount of lives lost in this country, again that why cops carry them.

Don't get me wrong, I do support laws that require responsible gun ownership such as background checks and securing weapons in a safe or similar. I just hope the politicians don't go crazy on this one and end up penalizing responsible gun owners.

I believe there should be a system in place at all schools that allow several staff members to be armed, it could be teachers, janitors, security guards etc. They would be licensed concealed weapons permit holders that are trained in the use of firearms and basic tactics. And on top of that, a one button system that could be activated by an individual constantly monitoring video cameras placed through out the school whose sole responsibility is to monitor for potential threats. Once a threat is perceived, the school would go into lock down and the location of the perpetrator would be announced over the PA system so that armed personnel could respond to intervene as well as of course a notification to local law enforcement. All class room doors would automatically close and be locked from the outside only, allowing students to exit if need be, but not allow entry. And all students would participate in a quarterly drill on what to do if the situation occurred, similar to a fire drill.

Obviously this would take a considerate amount of planning, time and of course money, but if takes raising taxes to do it, then so be it! I think our kids are worth it, don't you?

    Reply#378 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:23 AM EST

    @ ENG.....very well thought out and said......stricter gun control is not going to keep guns away from the criminal.....we should be holding our local, state and federal governments responsible for not working harder to remove the illegal guns that criminals have not to mention the criminals OFF the streets. I am not afraid of a law abiding gun owner who took the time to go through the legal channels to obtain their personal weapons....and let's remember the Sandy Hook tragedy was a case of an irresponsible gun owner who took for granted that her loony son would not tough her legally obtained guns.....he did and she paid the ultimate price for it....he went on his rampage and took the cowards way out and now we will never know how he got them and why he did what he did.

      #378.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:38 AM EST

      (Sorry, clicked the wrong button... Ignore this.)

        #378.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:42 AM EST

        You looney toons need to get your story straight. You hate big government and now you want the Government to arm teachers and have armed guards at all schools. LMFAO ROTF. How are you going to pay for it? What about your faux outrage over the deficit that the Republican Party created?

          #378.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:04 AM EST
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          Now before I'm off to another day of no protection at school except for a gently worded "No guns" sign hanging in the front office, I would like to make a point.

          Please don't call me racist or a bigot because that is not what I mean to do, although it may look like it to some. I would just like to make a comparison of two real life situations.
          [ENTIRELY HYPOTHETICAL}

          The situations are modern: The killing of innocent civilians with firearms vs. Terror Attacks Comitted by those of a sect of the Islamic faith.

          In both, innocent people are slain indiscriminately.

          In both, a specific group is persecuted by society.

          After the 9/11 terror attacks, many Muslims were treated inhospitably in the United States. Many were abused and accused of crimes they would never think to commit.
          Similarly, after school shootings and other such events, gun-owners are treated universally as violent terrorists.

          In both situations, the groups face the possibility of losing their rights. The Islamic lose many of their freedoms of privacy and speech simply because a ridiculed sect of their religion believe in this slaughter. The gun-owners face the loss of their rights of property, privacy, and constitutional guarantees because an infintismally small percent of the owners choose to make terrible decisions that result in deaths.

          These situations are incredibly similar, are they not? I don't mean to come off as a bigot of any kind, but if you support gun control, shouldn't you also support the persecution of the Islamic people?

          [ENTIRELY HYPOTHETICAL]

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          Reply#379 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:43 AM EST

          I actually didn't mean "...if you support gun control..." I meant if you support the ban of firearm ownership or incredible provisions for preventing the ownership of them. A person who believes guns should be removed from society because they are too dangerous.

            #379.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:51 AM EST

            SSR.....good comparison! Unfortunately, not many people will understand it. They are too busy being spoon fed their thoughts and feelings by the inaccurate media who does not legitimize any of the information they report by conducting fact checking.....I am happy to know that there are young minds out there who are not being brainwashed into thinking that just because it was on the news it doesn't make it factual.

              #379.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:51 AM EST

              Thank you for the compliments, although many of my arguments have been polished and tried against my History and Gov/Eco teacher. He's an amazing man who really positively affects all of his students. Unfortunately, he often can't go so in depth with such debates because of the current educational standards (EoC testing really makes it difficult for the teachers), they take much of his time.

                #379.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:56 AM EST

                SSR....I had a great History and Gov teacher too! These days we rarely see students who actually grow as strong individuals capable of understanding the bigger picture! You have a great teacher if he is willing to allow open debates....Most just do what little is required these days.

                  #379.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:03 AM EST

                  SSR you have a point but most people are not against gun owners I am one myself what the uproar is about is the ownership of the assault weapons. In the United States we are screaming at other Nations who collect uranium that MAY be an indicaton of Nuclear Bomb exploration and we do everything in our power to make sure they don't even begin the process because in the hands of the wrong Country it could cause a calamaty of untold magnitude. We gather all those in the United Nations who agree with us and threaten anyone who goes over the line. Americans are all in agreement even though we have such weapons in our inventory. My line on this is the same as that. The government has these weapons but in the hands of SOME citizens they become to destructive therefore we must do all we can to insure these so called guns to protect our families are not just floating around out there for someone to do another mass killing with. I think it is called Safe Guarding our Safety.

                    #379.5 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:59 AM EST

                    The worst mass killing in an American school was done in Bath Michigan in 1927.

                    It was done with a bomb.

                      #379.6 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:22 AM EST
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                      @SSR.. youre making waaayyy too much sense here! (0;

                        Reply#380 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:49 AM EST

                        NRA=National Retards Association

                        NRA=National Right Wing Actors

                        Pathetic manipulative out of date scared paranoid people.

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                        Reply#381 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:49 AM EST

                        WILLIAM that was soooo mature! I hope you never have to live through a situation where you are staring down the barrel of a gun. Ya might feel a lil differently about what and how you can protect yourself

                          #381.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:54 AM EST

                          William.. you just accuse the Right wing of being a gun owner in your statement. there are millions of NRA members who come from both political parties, and the ones who just dont vote. You just assume. you have no idea. It is not just republicans who are against new gun laws. No matter what spin you hear from cable news, or some politician from any side who has his or her party agenda. deal with it.

                            #381.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:28 AM EST
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                            Just some random thoughts:

                            1) If assault weapons and large capacity magazines are to be banned for most citizens, then should not that also include law enforcement and security personal for the same reasons of limiting the chance of a criminal getting possession of those types of firearms?

                            2) If banning things worked, then why is it so easy to obtain drugs that have been illegal for decades?

                            3) If banning firearms worked, then why the per capita rates for violent crimes higher in the same areas with the toughest laws against possessing firearms? Shouldn’t the rate be higher in areas that have easier access to those types of firearms?

                            4) What are the per capita rates of all violent crimes in the U.S. compared to the European countries with strict gun control laws? I mean shouldn’t we compare all violent crimes instead of just cherry picking specific crimes to prove a point? For example, if muggings are statistically higher in countries that do not allow its citizens to protect themselves, should we necessarily imitate their example? I understand that the victims can call the police, but isn’t that more to take a report of the crime instead of stopping the crime before it is
                            committed?

                            5) To those that think that because the framers of the Constitution wrote the second amendment when all the weapons were flintlocks so citizens should only be allowed flintlocks. I would like to point out that the government only had flintlocks too, so at that time, that was cutting edge technology citizens had access to.

                            6) And finally, to those that like to say that we issue licenses to drive a car and that we keep better records on drivers than we do for firearm ownership so we should at least do the same for anyone purchasing a firearm, let me point out that driving is a not a constitutional right. If you are advocating that all gun owners should register their firearms before being allowed to enjoy their constitutional right, then how would you feel about having to do the same thing for all the other rights? You couldn’t exercise your 4th or 5th amendment before being approved by elected and/or appointed government officials giving you a license to do so. Otherwise it might, in some cases, put someone else’s life in jeopardy to plead the 5th and as some would say “As long as it would save one person’s life, then we should consider that option”.

                            I do not now or ever plan on owning a so called assault weapon or a weapon that can hold a 30+ round magazine. I am not a gun fanatic. I do own a couple of firearms for hunting and occasionally enjoy shooting paper targets. I believe that there are things that we should look at to try and prevent another school shooting, but I think we should also not go off the deep end and pass a bunch of laws that would be arbitrarily enforced (we don’t enforce all of the laws we have on the books now) just because it would be feel good legislation.

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                            Reply#382 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:57 AM EST

                            Roger... If more guns make us more safe, then why are we the most violent developed country in the world?. As for the drugs you mentioned, you only kill yourself. We are 5% of the world population and have 95% of the guns. In my town a 4 year old found a gun on a hall table and shot and killed his grandfather.

                              #382.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:14 AM EST

                              PJ...do actually watch the news? how about looking into the violence happening in INDIA men gang raping women, or how about the two women murdered in France or how about any of the violence in the middle east fighting amongst themselves.... As for your personal tragedy in your town regarding the 4 yr old...again it is a case of being an irresponsible gun own....period

                                #382.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:21 AM EST

                                pj1776

                                Roger... If more guns make us more safe, then why are we the most violent developed country in the world?. As for the drugs you mentioned, you only kill yourself. We are 5% of the world population and have 95% of the guns. In my town a 4 year old found a gun on a hall table and shot and killed his grandfather.

                                Can you show me the unbiased source, such as the FBI statistice, of your information that we are the most violent developed country in the world? I am not talking about gross number of crimes, but the per capita rate (#of total violent crimes per 100,000 people for example). If you are talking about just the total number of violent crimes committed, then that is an unfair comparison. I am also sorry about the 4 year old, but to penalize everybody because of a few individuals that are not responsible is like banning all motorized vehichles because there are individuals who drink & drive & kill innocent children. Another example would be to outlaw all pools because someone forceably drowned another human being in one. Individuals should be held responsible for their actions. Why is it ok to punish the majority because of the actions of a few? Why are we not enforcing all of the gun laws on the books now? Instead we want to create more gun laws because it would be politically correct to do so. And how would these new gun laws be more effective if they are not enforced any more than the current ones?

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                                #382.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:53 AM EST

                                And the example of the drugs was to show that banning something does not mean that it will make it that much harder to get.
                                Also, a druggie doesn't necessarly kill just themselves. How many small children have died because they had gotten into their parent's stash or died because their parents let their baby drown while they were just having a good time and wasn't paying attention to their child?

                                Talk to a police officer who has had to go in and write a report about how drugs hurt innocent family members and/or others.

                                How about the drug user that can't hold down a job, so he turns to breaking into your house to steal. Are you then still going to say that drugs only affect the user?

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                                #382.4 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:07 AM EST
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                                Sign the petition demanding Obama's resignation here:

                                Like the Facebook Page here:

                                  Reply#383 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:01 AM EST

                                  Why would I do that?. I just sighed Obama's to enact gun legislation.

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                                  #383.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:18 AM EST
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                                  If all the shooters {liberal democrats) were eliminated there would have been no shooting of innocent people. Babies would no longer be murdered.

                                    Reply#384 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:24 AM EST

                                    Datadon,you are one sick bastard. You area typical Charlie Daniels/Hank Williams jr/Ted Nugent disciple . That's all they talk about-get rid of the liberals and this country would be like heaven--BULLS---T. You rightwing nuts have cause all the ills in this country and all you can do is blame the Liberals. If it weren't for the liberals [meaning Unions and like organizations] you wouldn't have a 40 hour work week, a lot of the benefits you probably are enjoying now like-vacation, good wages,healthcare provided courtesy and in partnership with your employer [likely].

                                    I am a liberal and I don't want to get rid of the conservatives because there is a place in this country for all of us. It's just that the previous president who was supposed to be a Christian but lied to the people of the United States and created two wars without a way to pay for them. And the result now is we have a bankrupt economy, a congress that can't get anything done and fighting between the parties that is unprecedented. We have the 2nd Civil War going on now with the liberals vs the conservatives. It's time that we all return to those days of civility and cooperation with our elected officials and have those elected officials work for the common good of this country instead of working for the party.

                                    Datadon, your statement about liberals show just how idiotic the Republicans have become. Oh the Democrats are not without their faults but in this race-YOU REPUBLICANS WIN-HANDS DOWN......

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                                    #384.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:41 AM EST
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                                    I'm talking to those who, for reasons, have taken the low road of liberalism. Look (open your eyes!!)! It is all apparent. Double standards abound. Give me a break, please. You've got that fat-ass, loud mouth, pompous, Rosie O'Donnell preaching the elitist gospel about guns having no place in our society and then squirming when asked to explain why her security detail needed guns. Then you've got that blowhard-longtime-excuse-as-a-liberal-mouth-organ-journalist, David Gregory, using his trusty, liberal playbook to ridicule his guest Wayne LaPierre about the [nonsense] of such an idea as having armed guards in elementary schools, all the while hiding behind the fact that his own kids attend a school with no less that 11 armed guards! Now, let's move onto that school, Sidwell Friends (Washington D.C.), and we learn that Obama's kids attend this school with all the guns around them (OMG!). Now focus on Obama surrounded by all the children (01/16/13), shamelessly using them as 'human shields', as he spews diatribe that would have his viewers in tears. Following that propoganda with a factual, NRA, video ad that reminds all that there is another side to this story (lmao, First Amendment) which is then Whitehouse-labeled by their own comedian, [Art] Carney, as "repugnant". Stay tuned--you with me, so far? NBC then takes a firm stand that they are not at all happy that David Gregory has been included in that now viral, NRA video (lmao, again...First Amendment!). Now, I don't own a gun, but I just happened to take that big step back, catch my breath, digest, and then respond (...rather than react---you ought to try it). Here's my response (I know you've been eagerly waiting): the hypocracy of these liberal-elites (you know, 'holier than thou') so far, is so blatant and expected that I caught myself laughing as their pants (OK, and skirts) caught fire. You people lie about the time of day! The real problem that has me concerned is that there are enough listeners out there, both uneducated/gullible, i.e., love to be led, and their educated beyond their intelligence counterpart, that can't and won't hold "authority" honest; truthfully, this scares me more for our country than I worry about myself or anyone getting shot at the mall. What a leader Obama has been so far, ha? You don't come into a job, crush toes, then ask for cooperation. That approach doesn't work to bring the "sides" together. Your choice of a President comes clearly, lacking leadership qualities (good bull@!$%#ter, though--I'll give him that). So, please don't be surprised with the results to date. Its not working, it won't work, and if you think things will just get better when the masses fall into compliance, you are seriously mistaken. In my opinion, as the nation nears boiling, you will begin to see history repeat itself, when level-headed leaders will invoke a Rosa Parks-like mantra that would make her proud. Without a doubt and even if it doesn't seem possible, the fallout from recent decisions will get much worse before it gets better, but I have faith that good thinking and transparency will, indeed, triumph over the poor, hasty, selfish, and dishonest behaviors of the wrong people in charge thus far. Eventually,you too will come around and feel this pride for the first time. I'm holding my breath for you [people] :-)

                                      Reply#385 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:26 AM EST

                                      Well said.....I am so frustrated with the way our society is so brain dead....they refuse to think for themselves...most people tend to take these sound bites from the news stations and not question that 90% of the information is not accurate. They are lead around like sheep for the slaughter by news stations and politicians.

                                        #385.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:40 AM EST

                                        Well said? Dude, you need to LEARN how to edit. LOL

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                                        #385.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:06 AM EST

                                        Joe: News Flash for ya! David Gregory does not need to denigrate Weenie LaPeter and the NRA. He and they are more than capable of doing that unassisted.

                                          #385.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:26 AM EST
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                                          Repugnant? The president is a lot more cordial that I would be in the same situation. What these NRA jerks have attemtped is to put a target on the backs of the president's children who already face a threat that far exceeds that of other American children. There is no limit to how low these mentally challenged racist radicals will go to hang on to their precious guns. It appears that none of these NRA jerks could pass a test to determine mental stability and, as a result, they are even resisting background checks.

                                            Reply#386 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:22 AM EST

                                            N.R.A.-------Nonsensical Republican A$$holes. The statements they are putting are real GARBAGE. President Obama's gun policy is a very valid and sensible program to rid this country of automatic & semiautomatic weapons. These weapons are only meant for one thing----TO KILL HUMAN BEINGS IN WAR. They serve no other purpose. I am an ex-hunter [quit because of my health] and I cannot se any reason for wanting any gun that has more than 10 rounds in it. In Illinois they had a law that shotguns must have a plug put int to limit the gun to just 3 rounds before reloading. This is a very sensible law. It means if you are that bad a shot and miss your target after 3 tries, you better give up hunting a a sport. We don't need these 30-100 automatic rifles for hunting-they are only meant to be use in war to KILL PEOPLE......

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                                            Reply#387 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:23 AM EST

                                            That Law really was effective in Chicago, Illinois last year, Only Five Hundred twenty people shot and killed in the city, YEP that law was really a good law.

                                              #387.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:06 AM EST

                                              You are right, and we need these weapons to protect ourselves from this government...

                                              Where would we be today if our weapons had been taken away just before the revolutionary war. I think we could have been better off having these exact weapons.

                                              Ask yourself this... Why is the government interested in taking our guns away when there are militias here that have the same weapons and more.

                                                #387.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:36 AM EST
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                                                Can hardly believe all the hypocrites in here heh heh. Children are exploited, abused all the time on tv and no one says anything. Oh well

                                                  Reply#388 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:26 AM EST

                                                  "RepublicansForObama"

                                                  Talk about your nut-job! Now this guy's the kind you DON'T want to own a gun! He's probably the best argument for gun control that I've ever heard! The scary thing is, I think he serious. NRA members want to hunt non-members? Are you for real?

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                                                  Reply#389 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:46 AM EST

                                                  I was going to go to a school today and volunteer, but I guess I will just go down to the Biker Bar, it is safer in the Biker Bar. Everyone in the Bar knows that everyone there is carrying, so nothing happens. Everyone, including mentally disturbed people know that no one in the schools are carrying, so they will go to the school to shoot it up.

                                                    Reply#390 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:58 AM EST

                                                    Mr. Obama has claimed that we should invest in our children because they are our best asset for the future. Simple question if you have a big investment what do you do with? Do you not protect it? Why can't we protect our children, Mr. president? Why can't we place armed guards in our schools? Do we not protect our banks and politicians with taxes dollars? Why not protect what is our countries greatest asset?

                                                      Reply#391 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:20 AM EST

                                                      The White House is all whiny about this because truth hurts.

                                                        Reply#392 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:30 AM EST

                                                        Notfolled:

                                                        The fact that you dont know what's wrong with your ideas shows that you have NO CLUE about the issue--- and probly other issues that face this country, MOST caused by the GOP! You also have NO idea just how ANGRY the American public is at the Republican Party! But I urge you to continue because I can think of no better strategy that will result in this version of the GOP's destruction.

                                                        Americans are finally waking up to the right's extremism. And they are NOT very happy about it.

                                                          Reply#393 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:31 AM EST

                                                          Mr. Sheep, I mean Tom in NH,

                                                          I have no clue? Your right, I guess protecting our children isn't an issue. I guess not passing a budget isn't an issue. I guess American Embassy's for Al Qaeda isn't an issue. I guess 8% unemployment isn't an issue. I guess 16.5 trillion in debt isn't an issue.

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                                                          #393.1 - Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:45 PM EST
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                                                          to any one who says that "gun-nuts " take the second amendment literally and that they should be armed with a musket is a naive moron. Lets put it this way, you take the first amendment literally, then you should be writing all gripes and concerns down on a piece of parchment using a turkey feather. the second amendment states we should have a well regulated militia, which means having a standing army, notice the comma after that its not a pause to catch your breathe as some politicians say it is, and the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. that means that the people have the right to defend themselves and their rights. without the second amendment that enables us to defend ourselves, the other amendments wouldn't be worth the paper their printed on.

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                                                          Reply#394 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:35 AM EST

                                                          Harold. the other amendments wouldnt be worth the paper they are printed on. It seems to me that Obama may have that agenda. I voted for Obama, due to the Numbsculls who were running in my party. Obama is wrong on this issue. Obama is just making it harder for the Democrat who runs in 2016. Juat wait until Obama wants to make all of the Illegals already here in the United States Legal citizens, just like the Republican President did. That is when the fur will really fly. My Numbscull party had better stand up and be counted on these two issues.

                                                            #394.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:07 AM EST

                                                            damn right i agree

                                                              #394.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:26 AM EST
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                                                              These NRA members are all cowards like Ted draft dodger Nugent, Limbaugh, Hannity, Wayne Lapierre and others on the right. These guys must be compensating for the small dicks that they have and guns make them feel like big men. I'm still not sure whether Limbaugh is gay. His marriage was to tamp down those rumors. They are all little boys that claim to be men. In my eyes they are a bunch of pussies. I served my country and it would be nice if they served this country by keeping that hole they call a mouth shut.

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                                                              Reply#395 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:05 AM EST

                                                              Tell me something.? When you so called served this country, did they issue you a weapon.?

                                                              Was it a pea shooter.? Was it during peace time.?

                                                              Some of us like to be prepared.......

                                                                #395.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:45 AM EST
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                                                                Is this is the same President who had no hesitation about ordering the death of a 16 year old kid and his friend via predator drone - the same one but now with the crocodile tears for "the children?"

                                                                A rather discriminating mindset.

                                                                (And please all ye astroturfers, trolls and woodpeckers... take the afternoon off and refresh your pages of standardized insults and comebacks. Maybe you can come up with another word for moron or idiot. Invest in a thesaurus - it may help.)

                                                                  Reply#396 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:21 AM EST

                                                                  I don't have a high opinion of either the NRA or the current administration. The ill-conceived NRA ad is bad, yet so is the puerile name-calling coming from the White House. They deserve each other.

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                                                                  Reply#397 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:22 AM EST

                                                                  After watching Jon Stewart last night talking about the amendment that the GOP passed limiting
                                                                  the ATF enforcement power. The amendment was written by the NRA for the GOP.
                                                                  Basically the ATF could not even stop the dealer from selling guns to a drunk
                                                                  person. I am now convince of one thing, the GOP is evil and is the single
                                                                  biggest threat to the American way of life, they have sold us down the river on too
                                                                  many occasion. Like with the Consumer protection agency the GOP has block every
                                                                  single nomination for director, why? Because without a director an agency
                                                                  cannot pass or enforce any law. The GOP tactic is basically terrorism on the
                                                                  Americanpublic, taking hostage our economy and the debt ceiling. Taking away consumer
                                                                  protection for us and by proliferation of guns our peace of mind. Please try to
                                                                  catch this segment of stewart, it is an eye opener. I was very shocked, I did
                                                                  not know to what measure the NRA and GOP would go to sell guns.

                                                                    Reply#398 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:41 AM EST

                                                                    but it is ok to invoke the nation's children in obama's ad for gun control.....repugnant and hypocritical...

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                                                                    Reply#399 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:52 AM EST

                                                                    Invoke them? How about having them on-stage, reading pre-prepared letters-of-sob-story and high-fiving them?

                                                                    I'll admit, I supported Obama over McCain, and would have supported a brain-dead, physically handicapped primate with a fetish for under-inflated footballs over Mitt Rmoney... seems I may inadvertently done exactly that.

                                                                    I have had a fair deal of respect for what President Obama has attempted to do, and for the things he has accomplished, however, his recent activities have tarnished my opinions, and greatly reduced my support of the Administration. Are these "true colors" showing through, or over-reactionary reactions? Or something else entirely? I can't be sure, but I'm growing less and less pleased with each passing day.

                                                                      #399.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:51 AM EST

                                                                      yes..people are pasting pictures of hitler all over facebook...he used children as well...the only thing i have seen obama do that i think was smart was how he handled libya...in the beginning at least....his followup was just as bad as his other foreign policy decisions...not to mention his domestic issues...and i was against bush and the iraq from the very beginning as well...my support for bush dropped as soon as he started hinting at iraq....because that was the ulterior goal...

                                                                        #399.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:55 AM EST

                                                                        Glad someone else can see through the smoke.

                                                                        Iraq was one part distraction - as Bush had clearly stated, as John Kerry pointed out, Bush had no intention of looking for bin Ladin - and why should he? The Bush and bin Ladin families are old friends-in-oil. Let's not forget he authorized the bin Ladin family's flight out of the US on 9/11 "for their protection", when all other flights were grounded.

                                                                        The other part of Iraq was a personal vendetta - to "get" Saddam because one of his people took a shot at Bush 42 some years before. Payback is expensive - to the American people. But we got that dictator!

                                                                          #399.3 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:30 PM EST

                                                                          that and we want control or at least deeper influence in the middle east...with the help of israel, we are strategically positioned across the land....

                                                                            #399.4 - Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:57 AM EST
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                                                                            Obama is just using his buddy Rahm's philosophy which is "Never let a good tragedy go to waste." Just like he had the little blck boy by his side when he signed the healthcare legislation in front of the TV cameras he wanted to have the kids there for this signing of executive orders to show how much he really really cares about protecting them. Its a way to get his base reved up. He is a Chicago politician, what do you expect. Heck, I really believe he wishes the 2nd Amendment didn't exist. As long as his kids are protected by arm security, that is OK. But putting security in my kids schools, he could care less as it was recommended by the NRA.

                                                                              Reply#400 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:23 AM EST

                                                                              I won't go into the reasons, because if you can't figure that out for yourself, you won't understand the rest of my remark either, but it's in the interest of national security that the family of the President of The United States be protected at all times, and that protection certainly extends to his children while in school. What you haven't seen in the references to the president's children and their safety at school is that his children attend a school that caters to the political and social elite and offers a campus protected by a security force of 11 armed guards. That is in addition to the 4 secret service agents assigned to protect the president's daughters. A gun is an incredibly durable piece of equipment and the 300 plus million that are already in circulation in the US is a sufficient number to insure that anyone intent on using a gun to commit any form of crime will have easy access to one. It is ludicrous to believe that halting the sale of additional firearms will have any any affect what so ever on the actions of a deranged psychopath. The actions of the president are nothing more than eye and ear candy for for his minions. What comes next, free Coolaid for his detractors?

                                                                                Reply#401 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:42 AM EST

                                                                                This year the automatic weapon, last year the permit to carry. Next year will be the rest of the guns....

                                                                                Anyone see a pattern here.?

                                                                                  #401.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:57 AM EST
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                                                                                  One thing you righties have to understand: The government has EVERY RIGHT to regulate guns under the commerce clause of the US Constitution. Chief Justice Roberts reiterated that during oral arguments in the DC gun case when he said... We all know that Government can regulate guns but.... He then went on to say that banning guns entirely was unconstitutional in his view and that the right to bear arms was an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT. I support those legal views. Automatic weapons are already tightly controlled and have been since the mid 30s! One can not possess a Thompson machine gun without a federal permit! What is being proposed by the President is rational and does run afoul of the Constitution! The right would have you believe that any regulations are a violation of the 2nd amendment! Case law shows that isnt true.

                                                                                    Reply#402 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:45 AM EST

                                                                                    Thus the federal government did not have the power to regulate relatively unrelated things such as the possession of firearms near schools, as in Lopez. This was the first time in sixty years, since the conflict with President Roosevelt in 1936–37, that the Court had overturned a putative regulation on interstate commerce because it exceeded Congress's commerce power. Justice Clarence Thomas, in a separate concurring opinion, argued that allowing Congress to regulate intrastate, noncommercial activity under the Commerce Clause would confer on Congress a general “police power” over the entire nation.

                                                                                      #402.1 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:40 AM EST

                                                                                      One can not possess a Thompson machine gun without a federal permit!

                                                                                      Correction: One cannot possess a functional Thompson without a class 3 FFL. Non-firing models can be purchased by anyone, regardless of permits - much like my "dummy" RPG-7 - the unit is real, the projectile, while empty of charge, is real - and welded into the unit, rendering it incapable of firing.

                                                                                        #402.2 - Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:48 AM EST
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