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Subscribe to RSSThe White House announced Tuesday that, beginning this weekend, presidential limousines will bear the District of Columbia license plate that includes the phrase "Taxation Without Representation."
The license plate, created in 2000, adorns most of D.C.'s vehicles with a pithy reminder that residents of the capital city do not have voting representatives in the House or Senate. New registrants in the city now receive the tags automatically unless they opt for another type of license plate.
The saying has become a rally cry for proponents of D.C. statehood.
"President Obama has lived in the District now for four years, and has seen first-hand how patently unfair it is for working families in D.C. to work hard, raise children and pay taxes, without having a vote in Congress," said White House spokesman Keith Maley. "Attaching these plates to the presidential vehicles demonstrates the President's commitment to the principle of full representation for the people of the District of Columbia and his willingness to fight for voting rights, Home Rule and budget autonomy for the District."
The license plates will be affixed to presidential vehicles in time for the weekend’s inaugural festivities and remain in place for the duration of Obama's presidency.
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Say it ain't so???
Further evidence Obama is a dictator, Messiah, King, Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Kenyan born, Muslim who wants to dominate... lol
*snark off*
Hey, but i'm enjoying all of that "free stuff" I've gotten for voting for him. How about you? (wink, wink)
Feisty, you left out the part where he's the first and only President ever to ride in a limousine to begin with! Why can't hejust take the Metro to his inauguration like every other President has?
Man... Tony
There is nothing better than chowing down on some mac & gubment cheese while talking on my ObamaPhone, waiting for my welfare check to arrive!
Life it good! LOL *wink wink*
For my free stuff, I will be getting a presidential limousine with a driver.
Right JoAnne? lol
Remember the hoopla about those buses? When Willard commandeered one there wasn't a peep out of them!
Feisty and cohorts, you are incorrigible!
I'm going to go get my Obama phone this weekend! Boy, I tell ya, if I could get anything for free or reduced after spending a whopping $680. to get my front brakes done, this girl would camp out in front of the giveaway center!
Hey tony I have my 3 cell phones with me right now I;m texting my wife and talking to my mom on the other one the other phone is to control the Republican party you know gun control taking care of that thing they call the Constitution
Who ME?
*bats eyelashes* lol
Sorry to hear about your brake job but CONGRATS on becoming a first time Grama later in the year! {{hugs}}
That's exactly what the 3 different mothers of my 8 children say (lol).
LMAO!
Will you excuse me for a moment while I run out and cash in my LINK card at the nearest bodega for some cystal meth?
Oooo ... taxation without representation ... been there, done that ... a tidy sum of 40,000 and no t-shirt. At least the wine and cheese was cheap.
The first one in line to get a free cell phone was Paul Ryan !!!
The only reason he got there first was because he tripped Grover!
Thanks, Feisty!!
DC...
keep fighting and good luck.
The President got your back, and We the People got your back.
more pandering, nothing to see here. SSDD.
redheaded slut - an excellent cocktail...
I am shocked the President is not taking more action to resolve the problem, instead of just symbolic gestures..
oh wait.. never mind..
How is the sea levels? like that tax rate on those making 250k a year and above ( i am glad about that failure),
Too big to fail - now even bigger, Gitmo. - still open. Wars still going...
and on and on and on..
joshua w morris
(own your words, sign your name)
DC having representation in congress?
...the Republicans don't like it..because Republicans fear that super majority of congressional delegation from DC will be Democrats. If the GOP doesn't like it, there is no chance for DC.
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But DC already has 3 electoral votes ... in presidential elections.
slut? hardly, now granted fisty is normally three sheets to the wind with bum wine but likely not a slut in a predominantly WHITE, 2%ER Community of Roselle IL. Avg home is nearly 300K.
Hey low info Pig, how long has DC been around? now it's an issue. only in Pravda owned FR world
I am a redhead
I vote for the "man of color" in 2008 and in 2012.
Try writing your Congress member or Senator to find out why Gitmo is still open.
While you are at it, ask them how many tax dollars it is costing you to operate it?
How many people who live in DC earn enough money to pay taxes? Most live off gov't largesse and free cheese, do they not?
30 Signs You're a Slut
Tens of millions of American women are sluts, according to right-wing patriarchs. Take this easy quiz to find out if you qualify.
http://www.alternet.org/story/154546/30_signs_you%27re_a_slut
I'm a recovering slut!
norm903
No Norm the city has the highest per capita income of all US cities.
AlaskaGirl-759554
Can I help in any way?
"How is the sea levels?"
....Own your own ig'nance.
Kin I git an A-men?
I am proud of President Obama. Every time I hear Eleanor Holmes Norton speak, I want her to be able to vote, as well.
Hillary Clinton/Eleanor Holmes Norton 2016
Can I take a rain check there, BCWC?! Funny! I go to meetings three times a week but the meetings are in a bar at 10p at night so not sure how well that's gonna work for me, especially when Duck Farts are being served! D'oh!
Wondering if there is a recipe for Government Largesse and Free Cheese - must be a local specialty. Next time I am in DC I shall peruse the menus of area dining establishments in order to locate a purveyor of this delicacy.
BCWC, I am afraid to click on you link in the off-chance I discover I am a slut.
I'm gonna go get corn rows on my hair and then I think I'll pound down a few "forties" and smoke some weed while cleaning my gat. Then maybe I'll get "busy" with one of my ladies later on. Got to keep that bloodline going, ya' know.
btw Feisty, crystal meth is favorited by white trash hillbillies in the Appalachians. I believe crack is still the DoC in the hood. But you may want to ask Norm903 about that (lol).
Duck farts ... hopefully they don't produce barking spiders.
Mark in SoCal
Soooo, the new budget in CA to your liking? As to the link, ask your wife to answer for you ... who knows, she might be pleased.
You're a slut, I'm a slut, wouldn't YOU like to be a slut too? lol
Thanks to Hillbilly heroin, I can't even buy enough Actifed here in IL to take it as prescribed for my allergies.
how many woman are considered c*nts by Left-wing matriarchs? Lets ask the resident misogynist Tonybeeerm
The license plate, created in 2000, adorns most of D.C.'s vehicles.
Makes you wonder how many other elect officials have them on their vehicles?
BCWC,
I must say, surprisingly, overall I am pleased with California's budget. Mr. Brown not the liberal he used to be! This state just too big and complex for a one-size-fits-all solution, but from where I am sitting there is cause for optimism.
TO: tonybeeerm who wrote:
What did you get?
Geez these wackos just keep getting nuttier.
Mark in SoCal
Heck California is a country, not a state ... your GDP equals that of Canada. Hmmm, Calinada has a nice ring to it. So does Canafornia ... I could go with either.
Based on what I heard about California's finally having a budget surplus under your new Guv, all the while increasing spending in health and education, I would say your state may finally be on an upswing. Fingers crossed! I guess it took a Democrat Governor and a Democratic super majority in order to get you guys on the right track. I think your new Governor needed a few more years of seasoning in order to mellow a bit.
It should read...... NO REPRESENTATION without TAXATION
You DON'T PAY....... no voting for you
Tired of so-called "citizens" with no vested stake in this country screwing it up
I don't have to see or hear Mitt Romney anymore. That in itself, is worth it's weight in gold.
Alaska Girl, may a recovering Californian get a word in edgewise? Governor Jerry Brown already had the job twice; the Republicans of his time called him 'Governor Moonbeam', but his record of accomplishment in the 70s and early 80s is still admired around the world. Small wonder that my former fellow citizens gladly called him back into their service, despite the staggering amount of corporate money squandered on trying to defeat their will.
Since then, of course, the Golden State has endured twenty-four years of Republican mismanagement and looting, including the unforgettable "Evil Pete" Wilson (who?). The Gropinator was not as bad as some- he at least had the sense to work with Democrats in the Legislature, and together they were able to get some things done for the people- an example that clearly has alarmed and inspired the RepubliCant's in the U.S. House.
A-Frickin' Men, tonybeeerm! Or his stuck up wife!
Yes you may, FoxTrotsky, as I see you have done! I agree that Governor Brown had been clearly under appreciated and respected. As far as the corporate money goes, I think this last election proved very nicely(not so for the Kock Bros. or Karl Rover, or Grover and Reince Prebius) that money doesn't always buy an election. Our voices are worth more than a "few" dollars ever will be!
you get cheese too? Dang, they "owe me" 4 years worth..........LoL
According to a study published in the Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery, for "every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides."
In other words, a gun is 22 more times likely to be used in a criminal assault, an accidental death or injury, a suicide attempt or a homicide than it is for self-defense.
I prefer the odds associated with not having a gun in my home.
Wow, Invisible Hand... You should be the spokesperson for the Idiot American. Glad to hear you need a Federal law to prevent you from having something in your home that you already think you should not have in your home.
@Steve---446003
As a veteran of the first Gulf War and someone who actively participates and advocates for veteran's issue I find your post disgusting.
Do you even have the first phucking clue how many of our returning heroes from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are living in poverty and therefore,under the narrowly defined terms of who does and who does not pay taxes that I'm sure you have rattling around in your pinhead, are naught but so-called "citizens" in your view?
Tell you what,YOU feel free to seek out the VA facility closest to you,take your I-phone or whatever device you have,go there and tell them,TO THEIR FACES,that they have no vested stake in this country and thus no right to vote.
I'm dearly looking forward to seeing the link to that video,you getting the ass-kicking that you so richly deserve and I highly doubt that a sniveling little bitch like you has ever received, but we all know that you'll never do this,that would require an actual set of balls after all.
Punk.
Well gosh, you paid DNC boiler room trolls are doing better than me! All I got was a lousy bumper sticker and an invitation to the inauguration! And I was thrilled to get both, even though I know they were just massed mailings to all his contributors. My wife wants to have the invitation framed.
I guess I didn't get all that other free stuff because I'm a registered independent, huh?
Happy New Year everybody.
I just saw obummer heading back to his office to dictate another executive order to be included in his "I am god" presentation later this morning. He finally realized that he was missing out on those votes.
Taxation without representation is what we all have today with the Congress we have.
kennyw-2983735 - my comment has NOTHING to do with veterans, their "tax" has been paid for life, and I find it a crime that a ballplayer earns millions for playing a GAME while our troops are left with dregs
The "non-participants" in this country are the takers. The ones that have their hands-out for everything they can get without regard to who is paying for their lives.
And Ken...... thanks for your constructive debate.....
Nice try at walking it back,but your statement made NO EXCEPTION for veterans so I stand by my assertion that you were acting in the typical,thoughtless knee-jerk manner of the Right.
By the by,after we've learned of the "taker" mentality of Representative Tim Huelskamp's (R-KS) parents and brother when it comes to getting everything they can when they stick THEIR hands out,and his support,with HIS vote,of the same,I'm 100% confident that we'll be seeing you advocate for his defeat in the next election cycle,right?
Right?
What a hippocrate. Legalized Extortion, that is what our system of taxation, fines, licenses and forced insurance has become.
Legalized extortion is mainly caused by two sectors within our economy. One sector is our Government, and the other sector is Business.
Federal, State and Local Governments within our Country simply have to create laws that take our money out of our pockets. As a matter of fact, they can even take away all of your tangible, intangible and Real property for reasons of their own, regardless of what you have to say or do about it.
City, County and State Governments levy taxes to pay the cost of keeping everyone healthy and safe. Those are Real Estate taxes, sales taxes and other fees to keep Public services available for its people. So too, Federal taxes insure that our Country Government keeps us safe from Foreign enemies and allows us to live a reasonably healthy and happy life as a citizen of the United States of America.
As a result of political corruption and greed, those two sectors can also unfairly raise the cost of everything that we need in order to stay healthy and alive. Obama is by far the worst offender to date.
Since one of our favorite pastimes around here is making assumptions about what our Founding Fathers were thinking over 200 years ago, it kind of makes you wonder about the details of the discussion they had that day when they were busy envisioning the time when their fellow citizens in Arizona and New Mexico and Alaska and Hawaii would have more of a voice in their government than the good citizens of Washington D.C. would have.
"Hawaii, you say? Is that in New Hampshire, or Rhode Island?"
Hi, I think the mantra for the Tea Party is -
no taxation even with representation.
bizarre??
Pigotry,
LOL
It should be their new mantra.
Hey gang! A reminder that Feisty, David Walker, Pigotry, and Beverley are all the same poster. They all post from the same IP address.JoAnne in Pa, The nation's capitol was in Philadelphia for ten years, then was in NYC for a number of years. I do not think the founders intended for any citizens to not have representation. They set up a system that requires representation by state. Since DC isn't a state, oops...
Wash, DC wash chosen perhaps because it was in the middle between the North and the South. Since the growth of the country westward, perhaps the capitol should be in the Midwest.
I do not think any Americans should be unrepresented in Congress. DC residents should be given voting rights as residents of either MD or VA. Simply split the city population into districts between both states.
Thanks for the "heads-up" Kim.
They likely all work at the same office or home for the Democratic party, or MSNBC. They all post around 150 to 200 comments a day, every day, are uncollapsable, and are completely immune from COH rules.
Well at least the residents of DC feel exactly like the rest of us.
Elect better representatives.
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Well, well, well. An article with keywords Obama, taxation, limo, representation. What tales will the right wing spin with those 4 words?
Obama skirts representation by signing Executive Order to raises taxes on the middle class, to fund forceful removal of assault limos from all Americans, to be given to residents in Washington DC for free.
I see all the regulars are out in force today conducting their regular back-slapping circle jerk. Hope they don't hurt themselves patting themselves on the back.
Make it a country where Obama is the king. Then lets have all the other states leave the Union.
Well, if that were the case, I'd be moving to DC. Hey, feel free to leave the Union. You will be missed.
From Imam to King. You people sure do choke on the word President. It must be the 3rd syllable that throws you.
Obama tore down the last bastion of "whiteydom" so you need to excuse the ignorant.
Many of them are still pissed cuz they never in their life expected a "darky" to get in the WH.
That white house that 'darkies' (slave labor) built.....
Hi Alaska Girl,
They never have gotten over having a person of color in charge.
The very thought of a black man occupying their white house is on display all day, everyday around here!
Drives em into a full blown bat @!$%# crazy frenzy! lol
Hi ya, Job1! Yes, but "person of color" is too appropriate for that bunch, so I had to dumb down my comment so they would get it, thus the oft used word in their circle, "darkie". They prefer Archie Bunker style!
Actually, they prefer the word n*gger - most of them just don't have the balls to say it!
Soo, true, but I like to give "those people" the benefit of the doubt! It is either a blessing, or an act of naivete on my part! HA!
What happended to 'jig', 'coon', 'spade', ditty-bopper', 'stove-pipe', 'air-cap', 'jiggaboo', etc?? THEY get SO many names applied to them, and all we get is 'honkie' or 'cracker'.
I feel SO discriminated against as a whitey. (ooops- one more for 'our' side....).
Hell, man- it's enough to bring a 'regular' guy out of the closet, and turn him 'republican'!
You are excused tony.
Steve, don't leave you day job to become a comedian. That is if you even have a job.
Nah, tony, I do reckon that Stevie is one of those on the right who rants and raves about the "takers" all the while stealing from the government. By God, I must have some hidden redneck in me for all the redneck slang I've been subjected to when reading the back pages of comments from the gun lickers! I'm actually using "reckon" and "y'all"! No offense to my southern friends!
No you also get 'spook'.
Cracker is my personal favorite! "Whatcha doin' Cracka?"
You forgot Ofay and peckerwood dbo. You are right though,I too feel short-changed to not have more (and quite frankly BETTER) racial epithets out there to be hurled my (our) way.
Though I DID used to get called "Gretzky" all the time on the basketball court.
Used to ask "Why not Bird,or McHale even?"
Same answer every time..."Nah honkie,them crackers can play...". ;)
It's great to see that the racists aren't out yet today. Wait until they wake up and see all of the nigs using names for the whites and want to start using derogatory names for the nigs - they'll get collapsed.
Seeing as drive by obeserver and myself,who both clearly state that we're white,are the only ones who used racial epithets about whites in our posts,methinks you would be better served by changing your handle from "the thinker" to "the dumbass".
Thats what we are getting form obama. "Taxation without Representation."
Oh, is that what you call it when he extended the middle class tax cuts.
Navyvet98, if you want to see more of Obama's ideas passed into legislation, you should send letters to the GOP filibusters in the House.
PS. Thank you for your service.
What was it he said again? No family earning less than $250,000 would see any TAX INCREASE?
Hey Barry, who is going to pay MY tax increases? YOU?
Here's a dollar, buy a @!$%#ing clue you idiot!
Then YOU wonder why you low information voters are loathed by over HALF of this country!
And, now Stevie, no family earning LESS than $450k. And, the first $400-450k is taxed at the same rate as what they have been. It's called COMPROMISE, jack off! I know, that's a dirty little word in the nut bag's short vocabulary. If YOU are personally making over those amounts then SUCK IT UP! The gravy train you've been riding on is OVER!
Many persons need to go back to the six grade or below and learn civic. They do not know who approves budgets, who writes laws, who interprets law, who executes the law, why we have three branches of government and not even the color of the flag........LOL. I'll pay for them to back; maybe start from the first grade...LOL,
WOW, They are still grieving, sucking their tea BAGS, and milking their wounds. Well, they may as well do the honor thing, "COMMIT Suicide or slide under a rock. The PRESIDENT (Obama) was elected by over 51%, two terms (very rare in the history of our country). And NO RACIST, HATER or GOWN WEARING ANIMAL has the last word. LOL. SUCK IT UP or remove your bag gers
There seems to be a lot of us that aren't considered middle class even though our income is well less than $100K because our taxes went up.
As permitted by the U.S. Constitution, the District is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States Congress and is therefore not a part of any U.S. state. Liberals just want more guaranteed minority seats and automatic votes for spending someone else's money.
Yep, you are exactly right, that is what it is.*
*sarcasm. But I'm sure you already got that.
Washington DC also elected President Obama and their votes counted.
never mind that the biggest benefactors of government welfare, the mega corporations, out source your job, take your hard earned money and then invest it somewhere else.
seems democrats are benefactors of this corporate welfare as well.
Oh, tony, somewhere like the Cayman Islands for instance? Oh, wait! Isn't that where Willard hides all his money?! Hmmmm, birds of a feather, and all that.
It's not a plea, it's his ephing motto. Jeebus. Not even hiding it now.
Good motto.
Standing up for all Americans.
It's a perfect license plate for President Obama. It reflects his ideas on taxation (mostly the rich should pay he thinks) and representation the Democrats are fine but the Republicans are just annoying with their ideas of cutting the debt and not raising the debt ceiling.
Do not raise the debt ceiling ...
Then the U.S. Government will not pay the bills
and China can repo the U.S. A.
Spending?
Did you see how much spending the House added to the Sandy bill today?
Agreed and while the DOJ looks into your claim, they can look into why the White House didn't submit a budget which is required by law.
Let me know how that turns out?
Yes I saw how much the Democrats added to the Sandy Bill
xxx
How about we expand the usage to all government vehicles? After all lots of people outside DC feel the same way.
THE POOR THE NEEDY AND ALL THE MIDDLE CLASS SOON TO BECOME SLAVES TO TAXES THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS IS GROWING WORLD WIDE AND IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS IN A ROW AT A RECORD PACE.
WITH ALL THE MONEY GOING TO COUNTRIES THAT HAVE LEADERS THAT HATE THE LAND OF THE FREE TO HAVE AND BE ABLE TO READ THE LORD'S WORD FROM A BIBLE.
Egypt 1.3 billion this year alone, Iran millions in Food, North Korea and now it is saying it now has missiles that can reach the USA mainland and this list go on to the point anyone can see President Obama is giving away are tax money to many that have done a act of war against the United States of America. While America has 45 Million on Food aid 2011 and 46+ million 2012 and growing every day in the United States and that number is growing every year for the last three years in a row. More People living in America homes have been taken away from the bankers and tax man then any other time in our 236+ years of History.
All Taxes need to be lowered cut in half or there will be a lot more Poor and needy and not in just other countries. In this year 2013 the World will see hunger like never before. More then 100 million will be sick from malnutrition going without food and safe drinking water to drink. Many will not make it and die. Taxing the poor more and taking their Land away from them is Wicked and sick. The leaders that are voted into office were elected to serve WE THE PEOPLE not but more burdens on them and do wicked deeds they too soon will become the Poor.
If your Legislature will not lower Taxes vote them out of office and VOTE in someone that will Lower your Taxes. If your Son or Daughter was raised in a Christian Home we need them in our Government as Leaders. America is not the Roman Empire or the Persian Empire oh i am sorry the OPEC Empire. Why are we sending are Money and our young men and women over there to die. Have they not bled America long enough. So why are we still sending are hard Working Americans Taxes, to people who do not believe in Our Lord GOD and Savior Jesus Christ, that We Trust In. Not The wicked. For years they have kill many just for having a Bible. 2012 The book called the (Quran - koran) they have been trying to give them out to pedestrians walking on the streets of many German Cities in Germany. They Plan to print over 20 million of this book and can you guess who is paying for this, and of course burn the bible. Most Germans are outraged by this.
i ask all Americans would you want to keep your tax money going to Countries that want to kill you and make acts of war against you. Do you want to keep giving to countries that cut your head off if you have a BIBLE.
Are Americans going to cut more to let a Non Christian President give more of our tax money to the wicked that are Lost and many will never read the Lord’s Word from a BIBLE.
Many a Nation have fallen from taxing their people to Death. You want Prosperity and for things to Flourish and grow lower all taxes.
You want thriving, success, or good fortune for only a few wicked, keep over taxing all. Like the FED GOV and states and cities acrossed this Nation are doing.
Why let the Wicked in office in our Nation if they do not believe in GOD and the Bible vote them out of office.
United We Will Always Stand in GOD We Trust
George Washington and Johann Paul Schott 12/24/1776. 3:45AM
In GOD We Trust
The United States of America’s Motto July 30, 1956.
King David’s Motto 3,000 years ago.
Soon all the World will Pray to Our Lord GOD and Savior Jesus Christ.
United We Will Always Stand in Our Lord GOD and Savior Jesus Christ We Trust
True Americans
True Patriots
GOD Bless
and May HE Guide you all.
The Lord’s Little Helper
Paul Felix Schott
PS
Read the BIBLE while you still can.
Tell the lost and the world to do so also
and may they come to know the Lord Jesus Christ.
And THAT'S why the District of Colombia deserves statehood!
Wait............what??????
This report from Outer Space has been brought to you by Paul Felix "Head" Schott.
Yikes. This guy makes billybob sound like an intellectual.
Fox Trotsky,
There is always one on every thread in the evening.;-)
I think they have to spend X amount of time on the internet preaching to the "unwashed"
Oh, I think I get what you mean, Northstar-it's kind of like those clean-cut, earnest young men from the L.D.S. Church who are obliged to spend a certain number of years in missionary work, right?
And if that missionary work happens to take the young man far out of harm's way, so he doesn't run the risk of going off and fighting for his country as so many of his
non- wealthyGentile contemporaries did, so much the better- even if he really, really wanted to go! Right?FoxTrotsky,
Nice analogy.
Bingo!!
Mark in SoCal
And THAT'S why the District of Colombia deserves statehood!
Wait............what??????
free coke for ALL.
It's not a question of whether people deserve the right to vote or not. That's easy to answer. There is something more fundamental going on. I apologize for the length. Hope you don't mind a bit of history thrown in as well.
The 1787 Constitution created by our founding fathers called for a Federal District for our nation's capitol of not more than 10 square miles. In 1791 Washington selected the site from land contributed by both Maryland and Virginia. 32 sq miles were eventually returned to Virginia.
By 1878 the various jurisdiction, Washington City, Georgetown and the County of Washington within this area were all eliminated as government entities. Replaced with District of Columbia. In deference to our first President it was called, Washington, D.C.
It was never the intention of the founding fathers that the District have full representation.They were designing a capital for the nation, to be completely separate from the states. These men were not idiots. They knew folks were not going to be having the exact same rights who lived in the city limits. Since it was the nation's center of government, they wanted Congress to keep an eye on things. Let the people who represented all the states watch over their capital. It may not make sense to you or I. But for those who had just fought a hard won war with Britain's King, they wanted the people to safe guard their freedoms very closely.
As the Capital and Federal center of our republic nation, it is allowed to elect one Congressional Delegate in the House of Representatives. Though not able to vote on bills on the floor,that person is able to vote on committee bills and procedural bills. In 1973 the Home Rule Act allowed the District to elect a mayor(Dem) and 13 council members(11 Democrats,2 independents)which the residents vote on from each of their wards. As the District is run as a municipality, decisions are made concerning budgets, and other matters pertaining to how funds are spent. Including how Federal grants accounting for 33% of their budget and Federal programs which contribute 26% of their revenue, are spent. In addition to police and security provided. There isn't a state that receives that much support. But the Feds don't pay property tax in the District, nor allow nonresident commuters to be taxed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Council
As has been noted by constitution experts, if the power of Congress to "exercise exclusive legislation" over the District is used to supersede other sections of the Constitution, then the powers granted to Congress could potentially be unlimited. Just like our President creates Executive Orders for anything he chooses. Which makes him a Dictator at this point. Something our founding fathers were deeply afraid of ever happening.
Last, those wise men envisioned a separate national capital,to be kept apart from the states. So they added amendments, which laid down strict requirements in order to become a state and how to get representatives in both houses.
It was for our protection and ensure our freedoms from tyranny. Creating a state from our capital would ultimately remove this from the Constitution.It may take an amendment to the Constitution to do so. I'm not expert in law or constitution.
http://askville.amazon.com/Washington-DC-called-District-Columbia/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3651533
There are over 617,997 folks living in Washington D.C. now who want the same representation with their rights to vote as all the rest of America. I don't know what the answer is. Who ever decides, I sure hope they have the wisdom to figure out what is best so that down the road, we don't end up doing something we thought was the right thing, only to find out it wasn't. Because history isn't on our side for usually picking the right thing when it comes to politics and protecting people's freedoms.
Sweet zombie Jesus! Why are people worried about 6 people's votes? The entire district is nothing but a cesspool of gangs and crime. How many legal voters could it even have???
cavesitter, You should actually name yourself "Cavedweller".
windancersong, In an earlier post I offered a simple solution. For the purposes of representation in Congress, the residents of DC can be divided between VA and MD. The founding fathers may have been brilliant for their time but I cannot believe they would be comfortable with 600,000 citizens having virtually no voice in their own government. That is exactly what they despised about colonial America...
Man,them plates ought to look good with them spinners on the presmobile.PS Remember this is the place that reelected crackhead Barry.They are too damn stupid to know what they want.
Da 47% always gets what they wants, man.
"Da 47% always gets what they wants, man."
Talking about the Romney voters, are ya?
You're quite right, Still! They always get what they want, and more and more it's coming at the expense of those who have nothing.
That's why we 99%ers are working to overthrow and bring down the evil, exploitative system of Capitalism, and replace it with a more just and sustainable form of government.
Enjoy your self- anointed moral superiority while you're still here, dude. I really don't think it's gonna wash in the next world.
As if Washington DC gives more than it gets. It's Laughable that someone thought that the phrase "Taxation Without Representation" could be twisted and applied to an area of land that costs us nothing but money.
DC does not deserve representation, Ciudad Juárez also borders a US state and it does not have US representation either. lol
That's one small step for (a) man; one giant leap for mankind
One of things is that the population in DC is too mobile...when a new administration comes in, the previous cohort will depart.
...and I think that 50 states sound a tad better than ...say...51 states? I don't know.
Another thing may be the Republicans don't like it..because Republicans fear that super majority of congressional delegation from DC will be Democrats.
Hey gang! A reminder that Feisty, David Walker, Pigotry, and Beverley are all the same poster. They all post from the same IP address.What a crock! And Barry wonders why so many people hate him.
Who is this Barry you speak of? Don't you mean Hussein?
Umm, he won a second term, bozo. So I guess that shoots your statement all to hell, doesn't it? Oh wait, I forgot that you nutjobs think everyone has the same twisted mindset that you do. I guess Nov. 6 proved that wrong, right? Cmon, admit it!
Barry Goldwater?
Barry Bonds?
Dave Barry?
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I do have problems with Barry Goldwater, the Extremist.
The license plate, created in 2000, adorns most of the D.C's vehicles.
Therefore, of course, rendering "Barry" subject to the hate of so many people, much to his bewilderment.
Wait................WHAT????????
Barry Sanders
Rick Barry
Barry from the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind."
Mark
Make one wonder how many other elected officials have the same plates?
Or at least how many other Barrys, sandy!
How many GOP plates?
The article says they were created in 2000 and adorn the D.C.'s vehicles.
Y'all seem so friendly, ya must be heavy into your hopium tonight.
In honor of our fearless leader's re-inauguration, no doubt.
Still working,
You bet. I am honored to be able to go to Presidential inauguration. I have a ticket and will be in the stands for the swearing in ceremony and then watch the parade down Pennsylvania Ave.
It will be a great time in our nations capital. I will even be waving a American flag, this old progressive ,radical liberal!!
You have a nice time yourself next Monday.
Actually, Pigotry, when we look back on the legendary Arizona 'gunslinger', a lot of what he said and stood for actually makes sense to us Progressives today.
He thought abortion was a matter of individual conscience and none of the Gubmint's damn business. He was openly and vocally contemptuous of Evangelical blowhards who thought that their particular system of superstition and voodoo deserved special status and protection. And on the matter of gays serving in the military, to him it was a non- issue- "We didn't care if they were straight, as long as they could shoot straight" (actual quote).
Good Lord, to think that we live in a time when Barry-freakin'-Goldwater seems like a moderate! That thumping noise you hear is Washington, Lincoln, and both Roosevelts spinning in their graves.
Greg Brady
We all should feel good that the President has so much compassion.
Yes, We Can.
We can dear.
But he can't.
Hey, RevengeofPodus
How can anyone say this kind of stuff? Where is common sense?
Come on Piglet!
Please.
You have too much class to vie for second best!
government just takes and takes. that is the true fact... they hate us.
You are free to GTFU at anytime...
they always have Tony. Look it up. Despite what FOX and Friends tell you, taxation didn't start on Jan 20, 2009.
Last time I checked nobody is forcing these people to live in D.C. Don't like the fact that D.C. is not a state (for a very good reason)? MOVE YOUR AZZ OUT!
Actually, I believe the residents of DC can claim either Virginia or Maryland as their state of residence for representation. Their choice - if they bother to choose rather than complain.
Actually, Tammy, you're wrong. there is no provision for DC residents to claim residency in any other state.
I don't get why anyone should be subject to laws and taxes and have no voting representation in Congress. Why are people against this? If nothing else, let them residents of the other nearby states so their vote is counted and they can be truly represented.
Ever the showman and shyster.
I think I will start calling Obama, "Feisty Red Obama".
Seems to fit well.
What a phony issue. Anyone that can read a map can see that DC should be part of the state of Maryland. Check out how DC, Arlington and Alexandria form a perfect 10 mile square. The Potomic river separates Virginia and Maryland, Arlington and Alexandria in Virginia and the District of Columbia in MARYLAND! DC is on the east side of the river for gosh sakes. This so call "issue", is just another blatant POWER PLAY by the greedy Democrats, parading as a phony civil rights issue. They can have political representation from 2 Maryland Senators, and their own House Rep, from MARYLAND!! They don't deserve statehood. If they get statehood, how about Richmond, or Cleveland, or Salt Lake City, or Fresno, or any other small city. No small city can just claim statehood. What a self righteous bull crap issue. DC, if you want representation then join the state of Maryland where you belong! just stop whinning about it. Pleeeez
Reformed,
Are you going to press for legislation to enable them to become residents of another state? They can't just decide to do it on their own, you know. Seems to me, some people don't care if a huge group of fellow citizens have little to no voice, just because they're afraid of what these citizens might say! Besides, it's not comparable to identify other cities, as the point is those cities are already within a represented state!
Reformed, How did the term "phony civil rights issue" enter this discussion? This is about a lack of direct REPRESENTATION in Congress. Is your Fruedian slip showing? Perhaps you consider any discussion of rights and Black people to be "civil rights", maybe? Are you aware that more than 600,000 rsidents of a major American city cannot vote for a Congress-person or Senator? It is a "phony" issue to you because you are not affected by it. The blatant stupidity of the arrangement is evident to most rational thinking people, but you aren't in that group...
Do you think the citizens of VA want to see a huge Democratic voting block added to MD? You think the folks in MD want to see 600,000 citizens added to the VA population? It is simply amazing that people who have representatives in the House and Senate are so dismissive of people who have never had that right...
Jed7: Its not up to me to push for legislation. Its up to the District to do so. Its they that decided to go for Statehood, instead of the logical path of becoming part of the state they are already in. As for your last statement about other cities being part of a state. Just check the map. DC is already inside the state of Maryland. They chose the issue, not me. It think they chose badly.
NB820: The local politicians are the one that brought up the Civil Rights issue not me. Local political hacks (Including Jesse Jackson and others) are always making reference that DC is a "black" city, and that not having the vote is racist in some way. don't ask me to explain their weird view. Ask them. Its phony because its a MADE UP ISSUE. Just a power play. The local politicians care nothing about voting rights. Its a sham arguement to get them more political power, simple as that. as for the arrangement being "stupid". It was set up years ago by our forefathers and if you want to call them "stupid", so be it. I'll give them more credit. If people really cared about voting rights in DC, they would join Maryland, the logical path to voting right. Not ask for Statehood. The path they decided to take shows their true intent. As for your veiled slight that I am a racist because I won't fall for this sham issue, I won't honor that "stupid" statement with a response.