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Subscribe to RSSJenny Sanford, the ex-wife of former South Carolina Governor, Mark Sanford, comments on his reported run for Congress.
Updated 3:10 pm ET: Ex-South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford will announce tomorrow that he is running for Congress, First Read confirms with an aide close to Sanford.
Sanford will announce via press release tomorrow; there will be no press conference or public events associated with it, according to an aide.
NBC previously reported that Sanford would attempt a political comeback running for his old first congressional district seat. Sanford would be running to replace Tim Scott, who was appointed to Jim DeMint's Senate seat.
DeMint resigned from Congress to head up The Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank and activist group.
National Review has a lengthy Q&A with Sanford on why he's running, including his first shot at explaining his 2009 disappearance and affair with an Argentine TV reporter.
"There’s a larger philosophical question. In life we’re all going to make mistakes, we’re all going to come up short," Sanford said. "The key is, how do you get back up and how do you learn from those mistakes? . . . But I think that the bigger issue is, don’t judge any one person by their best day, don’t judge them by their worst day. Look at the totality, the whole of their life, and make judgments accordingly."
He added, "You’ve got to look under the hood. There’s that sensational headline, to look and say, 'Wow, big ethics charge.' Beyond the headline, what does that mean? You say, 'Hm. There were 37 counts the ethics committee brought, and did you know half of those are for taking a business-class ticket?' You look under the hood and you say, 'Wow.'"
Sanford also touted his record, including that he turned down stimulus funds.
"I was rated No. 1 in Congress by National Taxpayers Union, and No. 1 by Citizens against Government Waste in efforts to limit federal spending, rated by Cato as the most fiscally responsible governor in the United States," he said. "I was the first governor to turn down stimulus funds. I won’t go through all the merit badges, but I could give you dozens of different occasions where I stood very solidly on the side of the taxpayer."
It took several dominoes to fall for Sanford to be lined up to run in this race, something Sanford also acknowledged.
"I’m not saying it was God-ordained or anything like that," Sanford said, "but a series of rather miraculous events have coincided here, that did not escape the attention of the friends who were urging me to look at this."
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Don't cry for me
ArgentinaSouth Carolina...Does a former philandering husband, who disappeared from his job as Governor of the state, really have a chance at winning?
Family values at their finest!
Well, it is SC after all, who gave us Jim DeMint & Lindsey Graham. LOL
Hope his ex-wife decides to run against him!
The late night comedians will have a field day with this one! LOL
*popcorn*???
Yes, they will.
His campaign song will be, "Don't Cry for me Argentina". Wonder if South Carolinians will see through him when he tells them, 'the truth is, I never left you"!!
He will arrive at this campaign events in a motorized, glass encased coffin.
What a narcissist! He needs to understand that we are trying to get rid of his type! We have enough problems with the tea baggers, we certainly don't need/want another one! I hope the folks in SC remember the disgrace he brought to their fine state and kick his ass to the curb.
Hey Feisty. Go to todays Programming Notes to read a new episode of "Darth ROOOOOVE! AKA. Karl Rove. The GOP/Teabegger "Master Of Madness and Misinformation." Let me know what you think of the latest episode of "Darth ROOOOOOVE!" Enjoy!
Don-Juan-Mark is his official first name. The official water for his campaign is Peron-eir.
"You say, 'Hm. There were 37 counts the ethics committee brought, and did you know half of those are for taking a business-class ticket?"
Still doesn't get it, does he? We don't care whether you flew coach or business class, you jerk. You cheated on your marriage vows. You lied repeatedly to your wife and your family and your staff and your constituents. You disappeared without letting anyone know where you were. When you got caught with your pants down (pun fully intended) you told even bigger lies. And they weren't even remotely believable ones!
And don't give me this crap about "In life we’re all going to make mistakes". You didn't make a mistake. You willfully and deliberately lied and cheated. Over and over and over again.
As near as I can see, the only thing even half-way truthful coming from this "new" Sanford is the part about "we’re all going to come up short,". And I have a feeling he heard that one from the Argentine mistress.....
P.S. - And before anyone thinks they can score some meaningless partisan points by bringing up John Edwards, you're wasting your time. He was pond scum, too.
If he'll lie to his wife AND his staff, and disappear for a number of days because of an extramarital affair, why would he think anyone would trust him to do his job as a congressman? Honestly, these egomaniacs are delusional.
AlaskaGirl . . .
South Carolina needs to stand up as well and let the Country know THEY are trying to get rid of the garbage they keep sending to Congress!
We can anticipate new pork barrel spending as the Road to Rio is replaced with the Road to Sao Paulo.
South Carolinian's will vote for Sanford in droves. They can be counted on to do all they can against the black bastard in the White House, and just as surely, against themselves. It's in the Bible too. Least, someone they like, told 'em It is.
Isn't it a little strange that all the little teabaggers that have whined about President Obama being a narcissist are remarkably silent when faced with a REAL narcissist?
Of course...the word does have three syllables...
From reading all of the posts, both the right and left posters agree that this is a bad move. Found myself voting up a few I've never voted up before!
NBC previously reported that Sanford would attempt a political comeback running for his old first congressional district seat.
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It's these statements that irk me. At first glance, it looks harmless, but to me, it adds to what I consider as much of the problem in American politics. The "district seat" doesn't belong to the person occupying it, it is supposed to belong to the People. The fact that the media continues to use this 'possessive' term when referring to them only adds to the perception that these people kind of act 'entitled' to the seat until THEY wish to do something else.
The House is a 2 year term. That's it. The job has a beginning and an end. There is no ownership by the current occupier of it. The only 'seat' Sanford has is the one at the base of his lower back.
The Chair belongs to the People.
Creep!!! Cheat on your wife and NOT cheat citizens in his district?? I don't think so!!!!
Will Sanford's run take in the entire Applachian trail? How degrading for the people of South Carolina if this pond scum should get even nominated!
JoAnne, well said.
A "mistake" is adding wrong. Cheating on ones spouse and flying off to Argentina to do it is a choice to cheat.
This would be a coward on the hill, a thief, a taker of tax payer monies, a man full of lies, a cheat. But his fame wasn't even half lived, so he thinks. He needs a well paying job no doubt. My hopes are that he doesn't get a job in Congress. We have far too many problems as is.
Sanford is such an a** wipe. Not just an a** wipe....and DELUSIONAL a** wipe. I could think of a few other choice names for him, but I'm trying to be lady like here.
"You look under the hood and you say, 'Wow.'"
Hey, speaking of narcissists who like to look under their own hoods and say "Wow", has anyone seen Spanky lately?
"Mac Forrester
South Carolinian's will vote for Sanford in droves. They can be counted on to do all they can against the black bastard in the White House, and just as surely, against themselves. It's in the Bible too. Least, someone they like, told 'em It is."
This South Carolinian certainly won't. I think he needs to stay in Argentina.
You are kidding, right? All he has to say is that he is a man of God who made a mistake and the TP's will forgive him, just as long as he signs a few pledges. Isn't he just the kind of person who should be reduced to working in a convenience store? I mean, he abandoned his office and treated his wife like the weekly trash.
No, this is the type of pol the SC GOP wants to put forward. I will say he is not yet as bad as Tim Scott or Jim Demint, but few truly are! But with enough pressure from Grover Norquirst and his ilk Sanford could become their equal. The last thing this state needs.
Yes...because seeing Sanford stand behind the GOP establishment/conservatives during a presser talking about family values will do wonders in swaying voters to listen to what these guys say.
After all else fails, his political desires resurface. Don't think he will be welcomed in SC.
As if Mark Sanford wants to head back to Washington because he has the best interest of the country at heart. As if Mark Sanford getting elected would signal anything other then Washington just acquired another scumbag. There are plenty of scumbags in both party's that are continually re-elected, and any outrage from anyone always ignores the fact they are living in a glass house. Lets face it, Washington attracts scum and voters don't care as long as they hail from the right party. Voters are the reason Washington is a corrupt cesspool that is failing the nation. Instead of one standard for everyone that serves in Washington, voters have a standard that only applies to the other party. If only everyone would register as an independent and then proceed to kick out every incumbent, then and only then would the people start to take control of their government again.
"The key is, how do you get back up and how do you learn from those mistakes? . . . But I think that the bigger issue is, don’t judge any one person by their best day, don’t judge them by their worst day. Look at the totality, the whole of their life, and make judgments accordingly."
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Be interesting to hear if Mr. Sanford can apply some of this good old quoting to one William Jefferson. I'm having the hardest time finding this quote being spoken during the Impeachment hearings.
"I’m not saying it was God-ordained or anything like that," Sanford said, "but a series of rather miraculous events have coincided here, that did not escape the attention of the friends who were urging me to look at this."
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If your "friends" think YOU are the only hope of political progress for the people of South Carolina, then your "friends" have the heads just as far up the arse of your booty call momma as you do.
He has virtually no chance at winning and if he is nominated then the party is basically giving away the seat. I hope they are not dumb enough to nominate this a-hole and nominate someone who actually has a chance of winning.
Oh man this is gooooood TV!!! I am so glad he is jumping back in the ring. I love the loonies in politics!! I love the Palins, Huckabees, O'Donnell's, etc. I love the ones that will take home a dead baby, refer to the evil all around us, call on Jesus, and finish every speech with a "God Bless America". Those are the ones that make politics fun!
@Feisty Redhead
Bill Clinton makes Hugh Hefner look like a saint!!!!!!!!!!
"Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, uh, we'll never get fooled again" - (in)Famous Republican.
or
"The United States of Amnesia" - Gore Vidal
Which sounds more appropriate here?
Seriously...this guy could have been a character in that movie "Campaign".
Marty HugginsMark Sanford: "A minute ago my pants were down, and now I'm a congressman. Normally it's the other way around."Can Mark Sanford get elected? Let's look at his history:
Cheats on wife? Check.
Republican. Check.
Uses taxpayer money to visit mistress in Argentina. Check.
Needs more taxpayer money to go to Argentina. Check.
Will Republicans vote him back in office?
Hell yeah!
A liar and a cheat, he's their guy!
Forward >>>
@American Girl #1.33: Additionally, He'll quote some Scriptural analogies, fitting and justifying all His perceived past misdeeds. Many may actually experience orgasm. Whether frigid, or hot as a preachers wife alone at a deacons conference, they'll love ole Mark.
The only reason S.C. didn't kick Sanford out of the governorship was because the replacement was worse than Sanford. If he gets any where near a nomination erase all hopes for this state of S.C.
pass the barf bags, please.
How many Sanford Sons live in Argentina?
At least he doesn't have to announce it now since NBC took are of that for him. Just consider it announced.
We're talking South Carolina, for crying out loud. They are different there than most states. They still have a rebellious tone to them. He'll run and probably win. In another state no but SC, why not?
Sanford: I'm comin' 'lizabeth.
Let's just hope he is fully clothed when he campaigns. I hope he doesn't end up in Argentina as it would greatly interrupt his campaign and later his duties in office. The party claiming to be champions of family values has reMarkable Sanford.
It appears the the South American TROUGH
wasn't filling enough...
Sanford ASSUMES that the PUBLIC TROUGH will pay his freight again
He CANNOT find a position in the private sector & he's running out of friends & money fast
SO he is doing the only thing he knows
CONGRESSIONAL/ELECTED WELFARE
..the clown needs to be handed his head AND face, kicked in the azz & escorted to the BORDER .
IF EVER there was an golden example of the lack of common sense, shame & embarrassment with in the ranks of the REPUBLICAN-GOP-NEO CON world.... this is IT
Campaign or Appalachian trail?
This is kind of like the Democrats bringing John Edwards back to run for President again. What part of , "no pond scum need apply" doesn't he get? And what friends? I wouldn't claim this creep as a friend if he were the only human being left on earth. I have better taste.
"underemployed"...
What are you talking about? I have yet to hear one Democrat express any desire to ever see John Edwards in politics again. I'm glad to see that you have the class to denounce Sanford (unlike "rick" who is attempting the "all politicians are bad" talking point that is always thrown out when Republicans behave badly) but please don't attempt to drag anyone else into Sanford's cesspool.
It is good to see all the libs here must feel exactly the same about Bill Clinton and his multiple affairs!!
"It is good to see all the libs here must feel exactly the same about Bill Clinton and his multiple affairs!"
The difference is Democrats don't claim to be the party of God, don't claim to speak for God or run their yaps about "family values." What you cons never did understand about the entire Bill/Monica thing is Americans will forgive almost any sin except hypocrisy. And Republicans have been swimming in hypocrisy for the last 22 years or longer. At the vary same time Newt was on his self righteous high horse about Bill and Monica, he was boinking his secretary. The day after Clinton was impeached, Pat (send money) Robertson had his "road to victory" gathering. The keynote speaker was Oliver North ---- the same Oliver North who was convicted for perjury. Republican --- Hypocrisy --- interchangeable terms.
I find myself in agreement with fisty on this one. The people of South Carolina are done with Sanford. SC is not Illinois where they elect lying, thieving, dopeheads who attempt to buy themselves into the senate because they feel "entitled" due to the color of their skin and who their daddy happens to be, and re-elect him while he's in the nuthouse trying to avoid a prison sentence, no less.
The left is hilarious, stupidly hilarious.
Great, another lying, cheating Teabagger, just what this Congress needs, God help us all!
Oh hell I hope Jenny Sanford runs against him, just what we need in S.C. this freaking loon back in any kind of public office. And to answer your question, yes the wackadoodles in the SC First would indeed elect this ass hat.
What are all you people complaining about? I think Sanford would make a perfect candidate for the Chairman of the House of Representatives' Committee on Foreign Affairs, because we all know he is very experienced in Foreign Affairs, unlike certain other Republican House Reps, who are merely experienced in domestic affairs.
Just think of what could happen when we get into a diplomatic tiff with China or Russia. The beautiful wives of foreign diplomats & politicians would influence their husbands to accede to our wishes, because they're all so enamored of Don Juan Sanford!
Good one Steve - and I guarantee you, I'm glad he isn't running in my Congressional District. This is definiteyl one South Carolinian that didn't and would never vote for him. Except maybe as a philanderer.
As for his paramour that he married, she needs to remember how she got him. Through cheating on his wife and the people of South Carolina. Wonder what she's gonna think when he does it to her.
We need fewer numbers of mentally unstable people in Congress. Sorry Mark, nothing personal. Well, maybe a little bit personal.
What would be the issue if Sanford makes another run for political office. Didn't philandering politicians become popular when a sitting president, who couldn't define what "sexual relations" were by perjuring himself and thus being impeached because he was a big fat liar who did in fact have "sexual relations with that woman." I like Tim Scott, but I say hey go for it Mr. Sanford.
I'm not convinced this guy's even a Republican, he did have his affair with a Woman after all.
Well - we will know the truth. Are South Carolina Republicans true Baptists or hypocrites who support any republican regardless of their background... We all know the real answer. This is the truly religious state ... who made up lies about John McCain - spreading the lie that his adopted daughter was his illegitimate black child -- using all the code words to attack an outsider.
No doubt at all Hypocrites of the first order all. One of the worst being his replacement as Gov. Nikki "Palin Lite" Halley. And to let ya know how bad it was with Happy Trails Sanford, one of the reasons the Republicans in the Legislature didn't force him out of office is his Lt. Gov Andre Impersonate a Cop & Crash a Plane Brauer was even worse.. There are a lot of fine folks in this state but damn few of 'em have Republican as part of their makeup.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see all the little limp-wristed Libbies are here pounding their chests in self-aggrandizement about their virtuous moral standards.
Perhaps you missed the accompanying article about the Democrats cover-up with Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and the Democrats of his little butt-buddy, illegal immigrant and registered sex offender, Luis Abrahan Sanchez Zavaleta.
Federal immigration agents were prepared to arrest an illegal immigrant and registered sex offender days before the November elections but were ordered by Washington to hold off after officials warned of "significant interest" from Congress and news organizations because the suspect was a volunteer intern for Sen. Robert Menendez, according to internal agency documents provided to Congress.
The Homeland Security Department said last month, when The Associated Press first disclosed the delayed arrest of Luis Abrahan Sanchez Zavaleta, that AP's report was "categorically false."
Sanchez, 18, was an immigrant from Peru who has overstayed a visitor visa that allowed him to enter the United States. He eventually was arrested at his home in New Jersey on Dec. 6. He has since been released from an immigration jail and is facing deportation. Sanchez has declined to speak to the AP.
You Libbies just can't stop embarrassing yourselves with your lies, racism, anger and hypocrisy, can you.
LMAO!!!!!
It must be so scary living in the dark delusional mind of Liberalisms rage.
JimSpence @ 1.58: Nowhere on here do you see any mention of the past gritty and immoral behavior of certain Democrats who got away with things more heinous than Gov. Sanford.
Let me say this, I bet Mr. Sanford doesn't sit around every evening with a wine goblet and bottle posting things about the behavior of JFK, Bill Clinton, Patrick Kennedy to name a few.
"jimspence" and "imnotlost"...No need for us to mention people not associated with your little party of "family values". Every time one of your own perverts are in the spotlight (what is it? Once a week?), you never fail to, predictably, attempt to deflect to one of your ol' standbys. Yawn...
Did you note above where your predictable trash was anticipated, word for word? Rush and Rove should be giving better talking points...but that's asking teabaggers to demand more from their leaders...and that's not in your manifesto, is it.
So, the party of family values will welcome Sanford with open arms. After all, they can just ignore hiking the Appalachian Trail and the treks to Argentina to smooze his mistress, who for all we know might be a spy. Wonder if Sanford had the diaper disorder like David Vitter.
Sanford seems more like a "plushophile"...
Feisty,
I could have spent the rest of my life in blissful ignorance of such a fetish. Please no more "enlightenment" for me.
I feel sorry for his children.
Really---this is the best SC can come up with?
I feel sorry for his children's stuffed animals.
Feisty, LOL.
Won't be long before the right-wingers appear to start in on Bill Clinton. I think they're still over on the WH gun thread talking about the goverment coming to take them away....ha ha.
Hey, Mark's into more cushion for the pushin... his wife was too slender for his tastes!
Just saying! ;op
Yikes, time to toss my beanie baby collection ... maybe one more time as I always get gas ... yikes I am a hopeless beangasophile. I wish I could love the air-freshener container just a little bit more.
Wow...distract the hillbillies with some gun talk so that Vitter and Crapo can slip Sanford in the back door (so to speak).
It's like a combination of "Mr. Smith goes to Washington" and "Deliverance" every time we start discussing Southern Republicans.
How do you know you are a politics junkie? You go to Buenos Aires and while on a tour of the city's beautiful neighborhoods, you wonder which one was where Mark Sandford's mistress lives! Sadly, our tour guide did not know!
Yes, yes, it is. :-)
Jody and Fiesty...
I have read your drool dribble about how great the left is and how double standard the right is...apparently you can't see that the only side any of the politicians are for is the one that will get them either elected or re-elected...especially the one in the White House...the almighty Obama who preached and touted to lead from the middle but he has turn his back on the other half of the country because they didn't vote for him. No matter what bad you may think Bush did is his 8 years...at least he attempted immigration reform and other issues that were at least close to the middle of the road. It may not have been the best plan but at least he tried. Look at the USA for today and lets see how much Obama will get done sticking to his ideals instead of compromise. Doesn't matter what Congress does, he is our President...he needs to lead both sides of the aisle...something reminds me of a slogan...that's right, FORWARD. How about we go FORWARD together and not leave anyone BEHIND.
TO: LongTime American55 who wrote:
If I could get my hands on Bill Clinton, I'd do him.
"formersgt"...You did happen to notice that the article being commented on is about Sanford running for Congress, right? Did you catch that?
Your irrelevant babbling makes you appear either horribly ashamed of your degenerate party, or completely incapable of mustering the sanity to understand a topic of conversation.
Which one is it, "formersgt"?
If Sanford exemplifies 'family values', give me Don Corleone's instead!
FormerSGT
how ever many years you spent in uniform
you also spent in a socialistic/welfare system...
every grunt gets the same thing & your money comes from taxes paid .
It's likely the reason you stayed in was that
it is easier than living in the civilian world .
Do your 30 years on this side before you sound-off about things that confuse you
and cause you angst, it will save us taxpayers the expense of you going to the VA for a blown gasket .
American Girl . . .
I hear ya on that one!
Sanford will be soundly beaten! I can't believe this horrid man is going to take his kids through all the reruns of this scandal! I despise Politicians! All of them ............and this one.......well isn't he just special.....
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy. I can't believe that HillBilly Clintons put Chelsea through another scandal--first it was Monica and now it is Benghazi. Shame on them both.
Sounds like South Carolina is still using those tally flipping, self voting, no-paper-trail, magic, it makes no difference how people vote because God runs the software voting machine machines.
Only question is who the hell is God in South Carolina.
What a disgrace!!
Will his "soul mate" be by his side???
No matter he's a loser!!
I never thought I would agree with maxx on anything. But I agree with you know.
Campaign song;
"The Happy Wanderer"
Campaign Slogan;
"To err is human..."
It is as inevitable as it is ridiculous that Governor Sanford would resurface....
A man with no shame...
Sanford is addicted to status....almost as much as he is addicted to romance.
He is a weak individual, thoroughly lacking in the requisite moral terpitude to serve in elected office, and should be dismissed outright as a candidate.
In other news, South Carolina Tea Party endorses Sanford's bid for Congress. Imagine that.
Sheesh!
And they will all ride to the polls on the short bus...
Hate to have to correct your spelling, MSNBCMFE, but it's TWERPITUDE!
In other words, an ideal senate candidate...
I wouldn't necessarily call scraping the inorganic scum from the bottom of the barrel a "series of miraculous events."
Sanford's plans are proof that there isn't a decent human alive willing to run as a Republican (shades of the 2012 primaries). They are just not going to ever get it, are they...
Going to Congress?! Exactly where he belongs--with the rest of the fools that we should publicly track and record. Why should he be any different than the rest of that crowd. What's a bunch of baboons called? A congress.
I think it's all a misunderstanding, Zapper. The ex-governor most likely ran across the expression 'sexual congress' in some Harlequin Romance novel, and got his hopes (and probably a certain private anatomical appendage) raised. We should forgive him, as doubtless the good citizens of SC will. . .
Zapper? Really? A "Congress of baboons?" like a "pod of whales", or a "knot of toads"? Too funny. But I wouldn't insult baboons with such a comparison. I would more liken Congress to feeding sharks.
JT--it really is called a congress of baboons, just like a pod of whales, a herd of cattle, or a murder of crows.
And Eric, it's an Argentinian Harlequin romance novel. It's hard to keep the playas (as my granddaughter would say) straight with out crib notes.
I certainly hope he cites the names of the "friends" that urged him to run. I think he's wasting his money on a campaign that's not viable. He should try for political strategist or consultant. I think Karl Rove and the Koch brothers need more consultants to mount the the next expensive presidential campaign. Sanford is listening a few "friends" that might cost him his last shred of dignity. The first piece of dignity was just laying low after a public humiliation. Where is the soul mate?
First Clarence Thomas speaks for the first time in twenty years and now Mark Sanford is running for congress. I love the lighter side of the news.
In the FANTASY WORLD of Mark Sanford
when he uses the term "FRIENDS"
what the public needs to read is
"THE PEOPLE I OWE HUGE MONEY TO, ARE UP MY AZZ ABOUT IT...
and I gotta do SOMETHING FAST...!"
And it is my general feeling that NOBODY should be ALLOWED TO POST on THIS THREAD
without FIRST having read Ginny Sanford's book
about what it was like to be married to man w/o any remorse, morals, self control or ability
to ever tell the TRUTH .
Sanford is counting on STUPIDITY of the voters to carry him back into public $$$ .
RUN HIM OUT OF THE STATE ON A RAIL
or forever be held as DUMBER than MISSISSIPPI .
Please, please. I'm from SC and have been to Mississippi. Don't insult the citizens of that state by comparing them to the 1st Congressional District here. I love SC and actually have a Democratic State Representative, Democratic Congressman and a Republican State Senator that actually thinks. He and a few of his cohorts are able to keep our insane Governor, Republican Nikki Haley, from becoming more of a laughing stock than Mark Sanford was and is.
@jackieboy, You have my sincere condolences! :(
Clearly, he's still delusional. Where are his white-coated handlers?
Maybe Akin can give him campaign advice
If not Akin, Maybe his Senior Senator, Lindsey Graham - there's a nasty piece of teabagging gum.
We need people in DC with some integrity. We need legislators who believe in something so strongly for the progress of us all - for equal rights - for fairness - for a more progressive Nation.
Like the leaders before us.
In 1878, former president Ulysses S. Grant and Otto von Bismarck (Chancellor of the German Empire) sat down together for a conversation.
Bismarck remarked to Grant that we here in America had to save the Union just as they had to save Germany.
"Not only save the Union, but destroy slavery," answered the General.
"I suppose, however, the Union was the real sentiment, the dominant sentiment," said Bismarck.
"In the beginning, yes," said the General.
Bismarck: “I suppose if you had had a large army at the beginning of the war, it would have ended in a much shorter time.”
"We might have had no war at all," said the General; "but we cannot tell. Our war had many strange features – there were many things which seemed odd enough at the time, but which now seem Providential. If we had had a large regular army, as it was then constituted, it might have gone with the South. In fact, the Southern feeling in the army among high officers was so strong that when the war broke out the army dissolved. We had no army – then we had to organize one.
A great commander like Sherman or Sheridan even then might have organized an army and put down the rebellion in six months or a year, or, at the farthest, two years.
But that would have saved slavery, perhaps, and slavery meant the germs of a new rebellion. There had to be an end of slavery. Then we were fighting an enemy with whom we could not make a peace. We had to destroy him. No convention, no treaty was possible – only destruction."
Thank you Pat----That sounds like a good example of providence....Not The Tea Party endorsing Sanford....These evil people always claim to have God on their side....
Mark Sanford is a two timing pos!!! The good people of SC have a bad habit of electing these idiots...over and over again...look at their governor now. She is one of the TP favorites, so this should tell you a bunch! SC will vote for him, no doubt about it...the people in SC elect many nutjobs..it's just their nature..
Mike, not all of us here support such nut jobs, it just gets very lonely being a Blue Dot in a Sea of Red Wackadoodles..
Another Teabegger running for their "Teabegger Congress." What a joke America!
Good luck with that, Mr. Sanford. You ought to be a shoe-in after that time you spent
hiking the Appalachian Trailin Argentina with your mistress.Sanford did a good job of keeping South Carolina independent of the federal dictatorship by refusing the handouts from the feds that had the usual strings attached. He stood up for his state, which was what he was elected to do.
Oh...isn't that nice, "jerryb". Did he phone in his little nazi dictations from Argentina? It is South Carolina...perhaps he was able to manage 3-word-sentence texts...
You seem to imagine that he stood up for his state when I recall the Lieutenant Governor stating the he abandoned his state.
Given that he lied and fled the country to boink his slut, I'd be willing to take the Lieutenant Governors point of view over yours, "jerryb".
Not even a nice try. Back to Karl Rove's nazi propaganda class with you!!
He certainly wasn't elected to go off for days while serving as governor without telling anyone where he was. That's no way to serve your state. If an employee did that, he'd be fired, and understandably so. why would anyone want to re-elect this guy? He has proven himself unreliable.
As a native South Carolinian let me be the first to apologize. For the Love of the Lord! we can do better- I would vote for his wife before Mark. I thought he was still on the Appalachian trail. Man, South Carolina is a great State, despite this knuckle- head. May I point he was born in Florida.
WHOAAA!
I'm gonna run out and buy a Lotto ticket! This is TWICE in one day we have agreed!
Salud!
What does being born in FL have to do with anything other than shows he is a Natural Born Citizen as both his parents were also US Citizens at the time of his birth? Perhaps a feeling guilty that we lack a Natural Born Citizen of the one currently occupying the Oval Office that is Constitutionally required for VP and President.
You know of course she is from Winnetka? graduated magna cum laude from Georgetown and had a BIG money job in Chicago, my wife and I meet her once in Charleston- she is brilliant.
No, I didn't know that!
Thanks for the info... I was impressed she didn't do the "perp" walk with Mark when he got busted and divorced his sorry ass as fast as she could!
Winnetka is a beautiful suburb north of Chicago bordering Lake Michigan!
Yes I know, my roommate in College was from Cierco - so I spent time there visiting and also an old Irish enclave called Bridgeport on the South Side My wife is also from Illinois- downstate.
Kurt's omments: " we lack a Natural Born Citizen of the one currently occupying the Oval Office"
Yo, Kurt - that whacky birther conspiracy theory is just soooooo 2008, you know? The newest one is that the President personally engineered the Sandy Hook school "shooting" - in which no one was really killed - in order to drum up support for gun control. It's all over the tin-foil-hat blogs - how did you miss it? Come on, at least TRY to keep up, will you?
JoAnne, sorry you have a lack knowledge of 18th Century Constitutional History. Anyone in the know of their 18th Century Constitutional History knows that the Founding Fathers took the definition (source) of Natural Born Citizen when ratifying the US Constitution in 1787 from the Law of Nations (1758). Of course, it states a Natural Born Citizen is a child born to two (BOTH) parents who are ALREADY citizens at the time of the birth of the child. How pathetic you consider historical fact as a "conspiracy" and try to tie historic fact with the Sandy Hook tragedy. Please leave the Sandy Hook trageday out of your Political Agenda.
Apparently, "kurt", you didn't get the memo that the Klan rally is over on the article about gun control.
Good Lord, your little paranoid buddies don't even want you around.
Kurt, my statement about Mark S being from Florida , was a joke that apparently only I got. I was trying to deflect anymore criticism of South Carolina than we are going to receive. I suppose we can redeem ourselves by defeating him.
Wasn't South Carolina the state that gave us Paul "I announce my racism during the State of the Union speech" Wilson?
Not following you
Nice race card play Shock. Sad, you have to resort to the Race Card when you know the other side is correct. Here are another stack of deck of race cards for you, since you play them often. BTW, I happen to be mixed raced just like Obama... so if Obama stated something you happen to disagree with, will you play the race card against him also?
Notice, NBC not bother mentioning that Anthony Weiner is thinking of running for Mayor of NYC ... and he was dealing with minors. I guess per NBC, if it is minors it is okay but it is an adult by a Politician that is not politically correct, then it is not ok.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/15/is-weiner-preparing-for-a-mayoral-bid/
Ahh...is that all you have, "kurt"? Cry like a lying, fat, drug addicted radio announcer about the race card...Knowing full well that the "reverse racism" argument was invented BY the KLAN in the late '60's.
Using a Klan tactic when arguing that you are not Klan when you are of mixed race. Are you seeing a therapist?
You do realize this article is about Sanford running for Congress? Are you proud to add irrelevance to your already obvious self-hatred? If you weren't so nasty and self-righteous, you might actually generate some pity from others...
Shock, there is a life out there beyond race, try to actually live beyond race. No kidding the article is about Sanford, so when another Commentor states Sanford was born in FL, and I have no idea where one was born has to do with the article (and show it does NOT matter for he is Governor not the VP or President per our Constitution) and then you take your race cards to play against my actual historical facts. Then you try to play the Therapist Card. I know in your wrapped mind, mixed race people like me must think all alike within the narrow scope of Political Correctness. News for you, I am an individual with an independent mind who can have a debate without playing the race card especially when race is not the issue.
Let me get this straight, Bill Clinton was a scum bucket for doing what he did but Mark Sanford "just made a mistake" for cheating on and lying to his wife and family about his indiscretions. I see now how that double standard thing works. Hopefully, South Carolina will also. You gotta love that family values group of conservatives.
Well, to be perfectly fair Brother Bill had a long line of ladies throughout the years over 20 by some counts. Mark as far as we know only one- (as I said that we know of) I have not checked with consulatein Argentina to verify to total tally.
And well stealing tax payer monies doesn't even count as he only got caught once.
No argument here Linda.
"Let me get this straight, Bill Clinton was a scum bucket for doing what he did but Mark Sanford "just made a mistake" for cheating on and lying to his wife and family about his indiscretions."
Hey -- he's a Republican. You see when Republicans cheat on their wives, lie under oath, dump wife # 1 for wife # 2 then dump wife # 2 for wife # 3 (Newt Gingrich), it's "different."
Sorry, I am going to write in Bernie Madoff. At least he is a lying thief who will stay put. The fact that I do not live in SC is probably not relevant to those FOPs.
Can't make it in the real working world so he's back trying to suck off the teat of the government,What a wasted POS.
DId he ever marry his "soul mate"? I have not one clue on that? If he did, can someone be a member of Congress when the wife(non wife) is not a legal citizen of the US? LOL.
AND, in the world of the right and the left, with "freedom of speech" what begs a person to call the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES...a black bastard?? Wow, still lots of redneck trailer trash out hoisting their confederate flags! probably the same person that does not realize that the Secret Service, Homeland Security and the FBI and the CIA....regulary "watch and read " these kinds of posts. Dude or Dudette,,,you just got tagged with your IPO address...LOL. Look for that IRS audit in the mail unless you live under the cash radar making moonshine and marrying the little girls off at 14 and cook squirrel and tell your buddies it tastes like chicken. Cmon' ya all, I want my son to marry Honey Boo Boo kind of intelligent folks?
Of course, all those anti-Obama posters, could get this job and do it better....go Game Change!
good news all, i am at loss for words. is he sick or dummmmmm?
wait my mistake, he is running for congress. he will be perfect.
I am certain this career politician had an exploratory committee look into his chances of winning. The thought that they would think anyone would vote for this dweeb is frightening. The GOP should not support him in any endeavor. Instead denounce him for he is.
Noooo - We want the GOP to keep supporting this type of dweeb.
Fragmentation = Dissolution
just what america needs, another _horemonger politician
family values at work, folks.
Ahhhh. The junior senator from the Appalachian Trail.
This Champion of the Republican Tea Party could not be running in a more deserving place than South Carolina's First District.