Capping off a week of meetings with stakeholders in the debate over gun control, Vice President Joe Biden called a session with the National Rifle Association 'productive' despite the group's public complaints yesterday.
"I thought we had a very straightforward, productive meeting," Biden said of yesterday's closed-door session with pro-gun groups.
The NRA charged in a statement yesterday that the Obama administration has "an agenda to attack the Second Amendment."
Vice President Joe Biden will present his task force's gun policy recommendations Thursday – among them, most likely, to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
But Biden said that the variety of gun owners' organizations that met at the White House yesterday did not all share the NRA's opinions on the causes of and potential solutions for mass gun violence.
“There was actually a difference among them as well,” he said. “There was not a uniform view.”
Biden invoked a common metaphor about firearms to describe the challenges facing foes of gun violence.
"We know there's no silver bullet" for stopping mass shootings, he said during a meeting with video game industry representatives.
Related: Assault weapons ban remains politically tricky for White House
The vice president has said he wants his task force to present recommendations to the president by next week.
"I'm shooting for Tuesday," he said. "I hope we get it done by then."
As Vice President Joe Biden prepares to present sweeping gun control proposals, residents of Newtown are speaking out. Meanwhile, investigators continue to examine what triggered Adam Lanza's rage. NBC's Michael Isikoff reports.


100 people with guns can not be controlled by one person.
One person with a gun can control 100 disarmed people.
True. Our government is working hard to ensure that government minions are armed, and that citizens are unarmed. That fact alone should make everyone want to secretly obtain a firearm.
The government can not be trusted to regulate the means by which the people can oppose a tyrannical government.
Kannin - thankfully, many of us choose not to live in fear and paranoia as you do, and do not need a gun to help us feel secure.
JD - I would never infringe on your freedom to choose. I would only ask that you do the same for me.
@JD,
Oh no? You live in fear and paranoia of law-abiding citizens that choose to exercise their Constitutional right of owning firearms...
@jersey
"....thankfully, many of us choose not to live in fear and paranoia as you do..."
Almost everyone does NOT live in fear and with paranoia about a fire, but it's a smart idea to have a fire extinguisher. Everyone hopes they don't get caught in a fire, but they sure are glad they have the extinguisher.
All the gun grabbers really need to go watch the movie, "The Sound of Music".....pay attention!!!! The depiction of how life changed as people gave up liberties under the false pretenses of being safer......interesting outcome
maybe do some studying of history before you call gun advocates - lunatics
If the principal had been armed in Newton it is very likely that the there would hardly a noise been made about all of this....it still may have happened and still will happen as evil is in the world
I think we have all seen The Sound of Music. Great Music. Don't quite see how it relates to saving children from being murdered in their classrooms but the movie was pretty darn good.
Annual Stats...
Tobacco Deaths 529,000
Medical Errors 195,000
Alcohol Abuse 107,400
Vehicle Accidents 34,485
Unintentional Poisoning 31,758
Drug Abuse 25,500
Unintentional Falls 24,792
Non Firearm Homicides 16,799 /The FBI number one weapon used in violent crimes.... A baseball bat.
Firearm Homicides 11,493
How many of the homicides with firearms were cause by law enforcement?
FYI the gov rolls them up in the figures to skew them.
Of course Bieden wants closed doors..What does this administration do except make decisions for us behind closed doors. It's one thing after another with this country. So take away our guns and who does that leave the guns with...criminals and the gov't. Well no thank you, I will keep mine as a law biding citizen and it isn't for "hunting", it's for protection and so far, thank God, I haven't had to use it. It really doesn't matter anymore what anyone thinks, Obama's regulations are going to be passed, his appointee's will be appointed and what he doesn't like he'll give an Executive Order "Fast and Furious"or by pass Congress. By the way what happened to Benghazi...where's Hillary. If it wasn't so sad it would be funny.
the VP look like he is runing for press dont give him aanything
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined" Patrick Henry June 5, 1788
"Shooting for Tuesday".........really? Stupid thing to say when you are for gun control!
There needs to be no new laws. The one law that worked as it was intended toward preventing the tragedy in CT was the law requiring background checks. This guy tried to buy a gun three days before the shootings but was denied due to the results of his background check. That law worked other laws did not. Laws against theft, he stole the guns. The law against murder, he shot and killed his mother with her own gun. The law against having a gun within 1,000' of a school, 24 more violations of the law against murder, and one violation of the law against committing suicide. The one gun control law worked as intended. The required background check prevented him from buying a gun, as it should have done. After that he was no longer a law abiding citizen. The moment he stole his mothers guns he became a criminal with no regard for the law. The moment he shot his mother he became a murderer with no regard for life. When he got to that school he was already a criminal with no regard for law or life. Nothing short of a bullet would have stopped him at that point.
One more point, when this story came out it was stated that the assault rifle was found in his car which would seem to indicate that he never took it into the school or used it in those shootings. He did have two semi automatic pistols he did use. The government and media have conveniently omitted the part about the scary looking rifle being found in his car and are using the fact that it was on the scene at all to push forward their gun control agenda. More laws won't stop this kind of thing simply because the people that do these kinds of things don't care about the law because they are not law abiding citizens, they are lawless and irrational.
Eliminating 30 round clips won't stop this kind of thing either since a magazine can be changed in about two seconds. You have the first magazine in the gun to begin with, two seconds to put in the second, two seconds to put in the third and you have fired 30 rounds in only four seconds longer that you would with a 30 round magazine, it won't make one bit of difference because like they say, when seconds count the police are only minutes away.
We all feel helpless when tragedies like this happen but in reality there isn't anything we can do about these kinds of tragedies. They are committed by people who have no regard for law or life and are hell bent on doing as much harm as possible. Ask yourself this, if this guy had drove a car through the kids while they were grouped to get on their buses and killed 20 innocent children and five teachers would we be having this kind of discussion about banning or restricting cars ? Of course we wouldn't !!! This is an attempt by the anti gun crowd to play on people's emotions to try and progress their agenda of attempting to eliminate private gun ownership in the United States. Laws passed in the heat of emotion don't work well no matter how well intentioned. Just ask the Japanese Americans that had their property either confiscated or literally stolen from them who were put in the relocation camps after Pearl Harbor. Calm down, take a breath and think about this for a quiet moment and you will plainly see that reactionary legislation never works.
You are right on.
Let us stop the criminals in government trying to step on the rights guaranteed by the US Constitution.
If Obama steps beyond what he is allowed to do as per the powers granted by the Constitution (e.g. an unconstitutional EO infringing on the second amendment) you don't have to worry. Tens of thousands of firearm owning PATRIOTS will march on DC and remove the wannabe Emperor by force, and the vast majority of the US military that has sworn to protect and defend the Constitution won't put up any resistance.
If Obama were to force an Unconstitutional EO I would hope that the Speaker of the House and The Supreme Court do their duties and call for his arrest and the disillusion of his cabinet.
@soldier's
Well put. It's good to see someone talking with sense.
I have been saying all along this has the smell of yesterday's dirty diapers!
Assault rifles, high cap clips, BAN, BAN, BAN them all....what a bunch of crap.
They can't even tell the truth that no rifle was fired at Sandy Hook, it was pistols, yet so many jump on the anti-gun "assault rifle" bandwagon and keep up the lies.
That right there shows this is all a big power play against gun owners.
Just a note: I own no guns and have no political affiliation.
Mydogandi- If it ever came down to it (I hope it doesn't) You can borrow one of mine.
If Joe raises that hand up just a wee bit more on a better angle he might just become the next Fuher.
Heil Fuher Biden my great leader and dictator with the big mouth and no mustache.
Smile and waive folks......smile and waive.
Now blow me!
Sounds like you have a man crush on Joe. Try to keep it secret. We don't really care.
The NRA has the most respect of any organization in this country. It also has more credibility than General Obama of the Socialist Party and his idiot followers.
We do not need or want any more politicians telling us how they are going to save the world by enacting more gun control. The only way to stop the violence is to arrest the criminals and put them and keep them in jail for the rest of their lives.
It is said that the prisons are full. Bull! There are 24 hours in a day. A criminal only needs to spend 8 hours i the cell. That leaves two eight hour shifts for others. The first criminal to spend 8 hours in the cell can for the next 12 hours working and then 4 hours doing some type of receration like reading, walking or writing. They must never be allowed access to television or radio. Telephone calls to family should be limited to two five minute calls once a year. Believe me, when they were finally released they would not want to come back.
It is time to stop the idiots in government from taking away our rights. Remember, guns do not kill people, people kill people and they will use whatever means available. Look at the corrupt city of Chicago. They had the most ridgid gun laws in the county and have the higest murder rate by guns.
Long live the NRA for standing up for our rights.
Our founding fathers included the second amendment so that people could protect themselves of an oppressive government, not for hunting or even self protection. When we starting changing our constitution, we change who we are as a nation, one change at a time until we self destruct.
biden and channey should go duck hunting together.........
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
The authors of our Constitution were focused on creating a nation that would preserve liberty for its citizens over the centuries-long sweep of time.
It was written by men who were surely smart enough to realize that permitting citizens to be well-armed would, sadly, permit a madman to murder innocents by the handful. But they also realized that forbidding citizens from being well-armed would permit a madman to murder innocents by the millions.
They wisely chose to protect our country from the far greater evil.
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Biden is the joker. Did you see him vehemently state in 2008 that Obama would never take his rifle from him! What a joke as is everything else he does!
whats your revalation, nolo? that democrats lie??
Interesting bit of history from a woman who lived through it. Any pattern repeating here?
Everyone needs to read this article and leave a comment. It has nothing to do with the gun debate but it is very important information for every American.
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I leave you all with this:
you know I make it a habit of reading these responses and I think its a joke when all you left wing wing nuts start beating your chests about bullying and how it usually degrades to snide smart ass comments about a persons faith or how your getting pushed around let me fill you dooshbags in on something MOST CONSERVATIVES DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR PETTY @!$%# LIKE SAME GENDER SEX OR YOUR SUPPOSED RIGHT TO KILL YOUR OWN KID BECAUSE YOUR TO SELFISH TO RAISE A KID YOU MADE OR TOO IRRESPONSIBLE TO USE BIRTH CONTROL OR THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD and as a rule don't make it a point to try and cram it down your throat like you people feel inclined to do and by the same token DON'T WANT IT PUSHED ON US !!!! Now with that being said another thing I find funny is when you dooshbags seem to DISLIKE SOMETHING YOU THINK ITS JUST FINE TO TRY AND FORCE IT ON US ......TOO FRIGGIN BAD !!! Its my constitutional birthright to own firearms and if your too scared to own one TOO BAD DON'T IMPINGE ON MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND MY CIVIL RIGHTS !!! The second amendment isn't about hunting or recreational pass time its about self defence from enemies both forighn and domestic whether its a criminal or any other illegal act of aggression no lawful firearms owner would wanna see any child murdered and I have to say anyone that would try to hinder someone from protecting a loved one or just an innocent person by taking the best tool around to do that is NO BETTER THAN THE MURDERER and if your such a bunch of COWARDS that wouldn't use deadly force to protect at least their own family well Id say I feel sorry for them and you don't deserve them just like your freedom because without the 2nd amendment you WOULDN'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS Iv been to some places around this planet that denie people the right to protect themselves and their basic HUMANE RIGHTS and more times than not those people end up bleached bones and like the clown that said there are plenty of country's that have denied their citizen's the right to bere arms and if you look more times than not their taxed beyond reason and their at the mercy of the criminal population unless your of the lucky few that have the PRIVILEGED of lving in secure areas and having ARMED SECURITY ! I personally like the fact I can deal with some thug criminal and dont have to rely on people that in the event they didn't run would probably do STAND BY AND DO NOTHING !!!! BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA GET INVOLVED look at the crimes filmed on youtube and tell me Im wrong . and for the dumb asses that chime in about owning grenades and other UNREALISTIC means of self defence well Im not even gonna waste my with your immature @!$%# and remember the the evil little bastard that killed a couple of people in that mall not long ago ....yeah the reason he went off and shot himself and didnt kill more innocent people was NOT because of the police but because a CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT HOLDER DREW HIS WEAPON ON THE SCUMBABAG LOOK IT UP !!! and another not so funny coincidence is if you look into these peoples backgrounds is either their on doctor proscribed drugs or their left wingers or both maybe your the ones that oughta disarm you clowns seen condescendingly flighty anyway so when you start your crocodile flowing over all the children murdered that could have probly been spared had the woman that was the pricible had HANDGUN but was obedient to the GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE because more than not the cowards that commit murder NEVER SHOOT IT OUT WITH ANYONE and commit suicide why aint you crying over the millions of children who YOU HELP MURDER WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED ABORTION ? see as a Conservative I think that if a woman's been raped or a pregnancy would kill the mother abortions a viable course of action LIKE MOST CONSERVATIVES DO . anyway the point is people have voted on this with their wallets and pocketbooks GUN SALES ARE THE HIGHEST IN US HISTORY and let me let you in on something ........ITS BECAUSE OF YOU PEOPLE yes the clowns that cry freedom but wanna form a lynch mob against anyone that don't by your bull@!$%# here's a clue on FREEDOM a person does what they want and you leave them alone their not bothering anyone LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS to own what they want and take responsibility for themselves of their lives and actions ...Funny how you Lefty's wanna demand that everyone be FORCED TO BUY INTO YOUR FANTASY WORLD OF LEFT WING NONSENSE you want no guns move to Europe and by the way hope you dig paying 75% taxes like France wants..... the left wing delusion costs a lot
Its because of people like you, (nut jobs) that regulations and restrictions are needed.
Shooter -
Could you repost this with grammatical structure? It would make it much easier to read.
Personally, I was just blown away as I saw the picture at beginning of this article !! Joe the Smoe in the foreground but who was behind him ?? The most famous mexican gun runner/supplier of all time--none other than E. Holder !! This bunch of 'failures' look like folks who should be looking at gun laws ----NOT/NOT/NOT !!!
RWNJ's suck bigtime.
So go ahead, form that circular firing squad and begin emptying those 30-round clips.
None of you will be missed.
Calling Names OK
Right wing nut job
Left wing no nuts no job
How is that and I covered both sides here
Just say no too "INFRINGEMENT"
just say shut up to the FRINGE the majority big time want this universal background ,,,assault weapon bbig clips,,, and sharing of mental health and criminal records.. we live in a democracy and finalally the voices of the true silent majority are speaking..... this ISN'T gun control it's common sense in action in a free country you deride the president for imploring the people to speak up and tell there congressman what they think...and the polls are constant.... you deride the president for having to make the legislation in a country that has a legislative branch....hmmmm this is boehner in the houses job... but he can't is tied to the special interest not the PEOPLES INTEREST... this is democracy in action 2013...the nra and gun owners didn't police themselves so now the government is going to listen to the people and do it.. the president wants this curbs because he actually listens to the people... the fringe is just that a small loud extreme portion of the country that is seeing the worst side of its extremism..... the only thing that being done in these conversation is that the label gun nut is being earned. there a difference between dems and rep...and i mean no malice....the dems listen to what you think and the reps tell you what to think.... watch right wing radio rush and fox its all about telling you what to think.... and who to hate which seems to be anyone with and opinion different than there's ...
Go look into the comments of James Tracy at Florida Atlantic U. He's going to the Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theory card. Get this clown outta here.
When will you gun nuts understand that taking weapons of war that have no other purpose then to kill as many people as possible in as quick a time as possible is not taking "your" guns away. These weapons and their extended mag. have no place in a civilized society. This isn't an assault on the second, it is common sense, something I fear gun nuts don't have. Most should be on the list to never be allowed to own a gun.
Most people that own guns, are not "gun nuts."
Johntho..........please keep writing...........maybe someday you will actually write something showing some degree of intelligence.
good point military weapons made for the who say it the military....military needs them for say it war....
scalia mr. supreme court and mr. conservative has said in interview that the 2nd amend doesn't give you to the right to have any weapon a bazooka ...thats not what the founders intended....assault weapons with 100 round capicity... carrying down the street...i paraphrase the end... the supreme court votes yes on assault weapons ban (we've had it before) clips background checks which we already have...in 50%of the sales...duh... gun nuts supreme court isn't stopping this if the most partisan and conservative judge has said these things on the record...he people want it and the crazies aren't going to block the people are for it...and the supreme court will uphold it.. why because it split the responsible gun owners that believe in common sense regulation from the ggun nuts that believe in none....that and the non gun owners is enough to win this one...
Please read,
U.S. v Emerson
District of Columbia v Heller
Mcdonald v Chicago
Silveira v Lockyer
Parker v District of Columbia
Nordyke v King
Hodges v Obama (for good measure)
This will give you a good overview on the Courts.
A government should never be trusted to regulate the means by which the people can oppose a tyrannical government.