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Subscribe to RSSGeorgia-based Pastor Louie Giglio, who was announced to deliver the benediction at President Obama's inauguration, will no longer be participating.
This comes after the liberal blog ThinkProgress reported that Giglio delivered an apparently anti-gay sermon.
Pastor Louie Giglio, who was set to deliver the benediction at President Obama's inauguration, has since been removed from the ceremony. The Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart joins Thomas Roberts to discuss.
An example from the sermon:
We must lovingly but firmly respond to the aggressive agenda of not all, but of many in the homosexual community. … Underneath this issue is a very powerful and aggressive moment. That movement is not a benevolent movement, it is a movement to seize by any means necessary the feeling and the mood of the day, to the point where the homosexual lifestyle becomes accepted as a norm in our society and is given full standing as any other lifestyle, as it relates to family.
Obama's inaugural committee today released this statement:
"We were not aware of Pastor Giglio's past comments at the time of his selection and they don't reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this Inaugural. Pastor Giglio was asked to deliver the benediction in large part for his leadership in combating human trafficking around the world. As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration's vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans."
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One more homophobic bigot bites the dust!
Of course the*cough* Pastor didn't have enough integrity to inform the Inaugural Committee of his previous gay slurs...
I cannot wait for the day when these gay bashing dinosaurs become extinct!
... religious fundamentalism has been a problem to society. You don't have to look too far.
The Inaugural Committee has its work cut out for it.
Skellingtons in the cupboard are the human factor.
There are plenty of gay ministers and open-minded ministers; but really, do we need the invocation? I think it is a little depressing to hear all about JC when a lot of us don't really care.
Said it before, will say again. I am Believer in Christ...born, crucified and raised again..yada, yada. Judge if you will, more than your prerogative...cool. A couple of things, I cannot stand though, are broad paint brushes that all 'Christians' view and act in the world thru one lens and then those 'leaders' who take for granted the special place (right, wrong or indifferent) that Evangelicals are given in our society, especially as participators in events like these.
The reality is simple to me...you don't want the Government telling you what to say in your Churches, great...there with you, but then don't turn around and have the audacity to use the same Public/Government platform to tell the State that it should not acknowledge, let alone defend the rights of all of it's citizens and residents simply because you said so, especially the rights that you, yourself enjoy.
Don't give me the "God gives you rights...Government doesn't give you rights' line. You take that line to North Korea and let me know how much your 'God given rights' work out for you. The Constitution, nor any other founding documents are ordained cannon..plain and simple. I have yet to find one Believer who has been able point to Jesus Christ in the founding documents to me. Don't give me the 'we are a Christian nation' stuff. Don't point to the word "God". Show me Jesus Christ and show me the documents declaring the US a theocracy.
You don't believe in abortion, great, don't do it. Don't believe in drinking, great, don't do it. Don't believe in pornography, great don't do it. Don't believe in sex outside of marriage, great, don't do it. Don't believe in sexual relations with the same gender, great, don't do it.
There is an old saying...'If you don't want to eat cookies...don't walk down the cookie aisle'.
Really is just that simple.
But, but .... what about the gay-basher Obama has nominated ? Is it okay for him to nominate someone anti-semitic and anti-gay ?
See comment #4.3 for a further identification of lefty hypocrisy.
jim-1455434
But, but .... what about the gay-basher Obama has nominated ? Is it okay for him to nominate someone anti-semitic and anti-gay ?
See comment #4.3 for a further identification of lefty hypocrisy.
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Taking your point jim, Hagel has apologized and has stated that comment doesn't reflects his view. That apology has been accepted by the person it was directed towards. Notwithstanding the basic fact that declaring Hagel "anti-semitic and anti-gay" is a matter of opinion and not a matter of fact.
This Pastor hasn't done the same. Where is the problem?
Oh what the heck, leave the "pastor" in there. Don't bigots need representation too? The inaugeration committee merely needs to explain that they are being inclusive, that even scum have a place at the table.
So if you are a teacher of the bible you will not be asked to be at the inauguration. Why have a bible there when the one putting his hand on it does not believe in it or respect it anyway. Have his foolish religious leader Jeremiah Wright do it. That would even be funnier.
jim When did you start caring about who was bashing gays? Why do you care?
rukidding47 Why have a bible there when the one putting his hand on it does not believe in it or respect it anyway.
I know what your saying the Chief Justice Roberts has no right to touch that bible. When did the Chief Justice join the Reverend Wrights Flock? Now thats even funnier!
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rukidding - I remember when I was a young child in Sunday school. We learned the pasage "judge not lest ye be judged." Now, I'll admit to juding you rukidding - because you're the lousiest example of ANYONE who claims to be a Christian since all you do is bash a President who IS a Christian-although that shouldn't matter.
Your pathetic claim to religion is belied every time you post your unfounded hatred for the President. So, quit the claim - no one is believing you give a damn about religion - of any kind!
Allen - Omaha,
Your post at 1.4 was a delight to read. I feel exactly the same way and believe in Christ and am so tired of being beaten up on these boards (and my FB page!) because I'm a liberal and a Christian.
Great post and voted up.
If you believe in the Bible, the whole Bible. then you understand that it's a Sin. like all other sins. There's a price to pay.Even if we (Christians) don't say anything.
And we start with this
Typical liberal stance. If you don't agree with me you suck. Where is the party of tolerance in that post? He has his opinion and you can't stand the fact that maybe even a bigger following than you.
Yes, he has his opinion. An opinion that he's entitled to. One that's been rejected by anyone that wants to reject it. One that has scraped his drivel off the ramp toward the world stage and thrown him back onto the pile of those that legislate God to the willing underlings that can't manage their own relationships with him. An opinion that in itself proves he doesn't even understand who or what he supposedly "represents". If he's correct in all the other things he tries to "teach" people, this will be an opinion he'll end up explaining once he finally gets that proverbial face-to-face.
A belief in God should automatically require that a person absorb the fact that man "organizing" the thing is the biggest lie you can find in the mortal world.
What's the net worth of this simple servant of Christ? Or is that just "blessings" bestowed on the mortal for having collected them in someone elses name?
redheaded slut - an excellent cocktail --
I thought only gays and democrats are going extinct? one group cannot reproduce and the other is aborting themselves into extinction..
might want to verify whom will be left and whom will follow the way of the dino.. HAHAHA
joshua w morris
(own your words, sign your post)
Yeah, we don't want you, Pastor Gigolo, if you don't respect our brothers and sisters.
The pastor looks like a successful hairdresser.
Ah yes Pig, see post #1.15
Pigotry and Feisty Redhead, apparently it is like all other Liberal thoughts, if you don't agree with us, then you are scum of the earth. Apparently nobody had seen that the pastor was "invited" by the committee because of his hard work and dedication to saving children in the Human Trafficking area. Matter of fact his efforts have saved thousands of children sold into prostitution in foreign countries. So just because he makes a couple comments in "his Church" about "his beliefs" he is now not welcomed? Goes to show that Hussein has no concern for the people that truly save lives and have hard work and dedication, but he can invite JayZ to his "ball" who is a well known drug seller and thug in his glory days. And don't even get me started about him having Lady Gaga there, what a great person she is....lol.
Evangelical Christianity depresses me. They are as far from knowing Christ and His message as you can get, IMO.
Me too, Amy! No spirituality whatsoever!
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
The good Book talks about killing Gays among others that go against the word, so why is it any surprise. Being Christian is being anti gay, unless you are hypocritical. You can't say the bible is the last word and true, and then leave out things that just are not PC anymore.
At least Muslims follow their book to the tee, hence why they are so evil.
The move came after ThinkProgress reported Wednesday that in the 1990s, Giglio had given a lengthy sermon in which he advocated for dangerous “ex-gay” therapy for gay and lesbian people, referenced a biblical passage often interpreted to require gay people be executed, and impelled Christians to “firmly respond to the aggressive agenda” and prevent the “homosexual lifestyle”
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/obama-taps-anti-gay-preacher-inaugural-benediction-shocking-quotes?akid=9909.21609.6V5b1n&rd=1&src=newsletter773863&t=4
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I appreciate that he withdrew himself from the Inaugeration. As well, the Inaugural Committee having second thoughts about this selection was on target.
I also appreciate the fact that we are evolving so much when it comes to gay/lesbian perspectives. We are a far cry from the America of the 1990's when this speech was made. And I can see why initially he was picked, according to this article.
Amen.
I think, Pat, that as a society we have to work our way to be comfortable that people's feelings/beliefs about the gay community have evolved over time as we have learned more and as more and more of us have had gay friends or family members. But a person in such a visible role as the Inauguration needs to be someone we all can be comfortable with.
Let me see if I have this correct.
According to Pat in Boston, MA Giglio made this speech in the 90's?
Didn't Hagel make his almost damming speech in the 90's as well?
How is it that Hagel is quickly forgiven for his speech and not Giglio?
In other words, does Giglio still stand by his comment? If not, i"m sorry, but this is being very hypocritical.
nomoresameo
you are comparing apples to oranges at to the words both men used. I will leave it to you to show the likeness in both.
Steeler Fan, enough people in our country felt the need to speak up and so he withdrew.
I do believe at some point if people HAVE evolved, then I think they should be commended for it. If his views are the same as back in the 1990's, then he shouldn't be there. I agree.
I know none of you lefties care but I agree with nomoresameo. Oh the party of tolerance and their view that "tolerance is okay as long as you tolerate what I do". Hypocrites.
I do believe it is time to pasteurize the pastors. Enough of this wandering in the desert of darkness and starvation waiting for some recessed phantom to address one with conundrums.
hahaha...what do you mean?
This pastor should contemporize, for sure. This PASTor lives in the PAST.
Funny BCWC ....
And Pig ....
pas·teur·i·za·tion (pschr--zshn, pstr-)
doh...two cats (layton and bcwc) compliment each other...no cat fight? Not much to watch here. Meow.
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MEOW? Funny, how, to Jimmy Carter, MEOW is about energy independence for our country.
I think we can accurately presume that pastor is damaged goods, and no amount of pasteurization can eradicate the amount of spoilage in that poor sole.
blackcatwhitecat -
Love your Avatar and your thoughts and comments.
California Tom
Thanks ... I truly miss no longer living in the great nation of California. What beauty, what great wine!
So RedDev, then we can accurately presume that anyone who has made a mistake is damaged goods and can never change their thought process by your reasoning?
Cool, that makes it easy. We need to immediately go through every prison in America and eliminate anyone convicted of any violent crime since they are damaged goods forever! Now before you say that my statement is ridiculous, look at your own!
I've looked at my statement, and concluded your statement is ridiculous. Happy?!? Anytime the pastor wants to retract his preachings and become open and affirming, then by all means, we can assume he has transformed. I won't be holding my breath - I suspect he will burn in Hell before he ever progresses that far in life.
By the way, Texas is way ahead of you. Not only do the execute the guilty, they get off on executing the innocent.
Your statement was the basis of mine, and was intended to be ridiculous, yours on the other hand was supposed to be serious, but glad you could admit your statement was ridiculous.
As far as texas, provide the evidence that they have, in recent history, executed someone innocent.
Your statement was the basis of mine, and was intended to be ridiculous, yours on the other hand was supposed to be serious, but glad you could admit your statement was ridiculous.
As far as texas, provide the evidence that they have, in recent history, executed someone innocent.
Tracy - RedDev's statement made sense. Had the pastor taken a different stance since preaching what he did - that would change things. It doesn't appear there is anything to substantiate that he has changed. Your question was answered.
The Pastor was right to resign from speaking. Really, what else could he do considering his beliefs.
This will happen as we go thru life. It is better for everyone to do it gracefully.
And what the hell does his beliefs have to do with delivering the benediction at the inauguration? Last I knew the benediction is done at the closing of a ceremony (or church service) and is meant as closure for the event only. Was he going to gay bash in the benediction? Is the president or his family gay and would be offended at having him as a person doing the deed because of a 1990 frigging sermon? You morons are all alike.
Hand-I wouldn't be throwing the name moron around.
Someone felt it was important to "out" him on a speech he made in 1990 regarding homosexuals. He realized there would be a backlash, and he bowed out.
We'll leave the bashing to you.
Did you do anything in 1990 that you regret today and tell everyone what an ass you were for doing it?
You do not see that he spoke his beliefs then, and they have not changed?
Can you not respect a man for standing up for what he believes if it's different than what you believe? Apparently not-you call him an Ass.
With all of the things wrong in this world, poverty, hunger, homelessness and such, why do so many of the so called christians get so riled up over what other people do in bed?
I do not care how many gun control law they put in it will not stop these mass killings. Remember the holmes guy was in the phd of his college education. Guess what people you can go on the internet and they will tell you how to make a bomb or gases out of normal household chemicals. These mass killers usually are real smart people and will just find stronger ways to kill. We need to make sure the crazy people are off of the streets so they can not go nuts and kill a bunch of people.
This is one time I am breaking rank with Fiesty, Pigotry & all my comrades........
In the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth....God did not make Adam & Steve...He made Adam & Eve..
Homosexuals, Lesbianism is an abomination unto the Lord......no compromise, no sugar-coating period..
They all need to Repent of their sins......And if you reject the Truth all that is left is a Lie.........
One Lord... One Faith... One Baptism...One Truth...One Way....His name is Jesus, The Almighty God.
Thank you and well said. I consider myself a conservative and you may be liberal, but we are all brothers and sisters with Jesus Christ. Amen and God Bless everyone in this great country.
right on brother. stand for what god says.
Help me Jeezus !
Apparently, the NRA considers the Wild West of the 1880s to the the perfect example of proper gun legislation, but with the addition of Bushmasters to that particular vision of America. Limit magazine sizes, offer buybacks, and require background checks for every purchase as a sensible approach.
I am now going to speak a few unfortunate truths. The true intent of the people's Government is that they want to control the people and they will do whatever it takes. Why else would the Department of Homeland Security (never liked that name, it smaks of Nazi Germany) purchase close to a Billion rounds of 40 S&W ammo that is illegal under the Geneva Convention for warfare, if it were not for use on its own citizens? The Administration is not looking at facts, they are playing the FEAR FACTOR and ignoring the tru numbers involved. Obama wants to save our children. Hey, I do too, But TRUE COMMON sense that is so lacking in government has to be applied. These ARE CDC actual numbers for tor 2009, the last year I can find comparison data for.
151 under age 10
85 under age 5
These are the actual number of children killed by guns. The So-called Assault weapons involved was not available. I would say the number is close to 0.
By Stark contrast, FOUR 4 TIMES THAT NUMBER DIED IN BACK YARD POOLS. If you truely cared about our defenseless childres, you can eliminate those deaths by eliminating backyard pools. At least, you would not be trampling on the constituition, but that is not nearly so Emotionally Charged.
I live in the heartland of the USA. Almost everyone is a conservative, including the democrats, and they do not support the Majority of the Demo Party Platform. I have talked to most of them personally to know their views.
Any Presidential Decree limiting the Second Amendment will not be recognized. If it calls for ANY confiscation of already owned guns, dire consequences will be the the result. I cannot know that such a Blatant disregard for our constituition will result in Civil War or Revolution. We Feel that strongly and will do whatever is necessary. The National guard and Army Reserve members have already talked about the possibility of being ordered to fire upon US citizens. The Rank and file will shoot the commanders who ordered such an attrosity and join the opposition with all their weapons. They are, after all, citizen soldiers and the sons and daughters of Parents who will not comply. Google it yourself. The Government has set up concentration camps to hold hundreds of thousands of people whom they deem disadents. This Post will probalby put me on that list.
The only thing that will work at all is if there is a compromise that is done thru the proper channels. There can be modifications. And, most gunowners Agree on may points. NONE agree on any confiscation or bill that does not grandfather existing ownership. There cannot be any retroactive excessive taxes on ammunition. If the legislatures do not properly represent the people in their districts, they will be unemployed during the next election. But this is how it Has to be done. No Compromises on Grandfathering.
There was a Gallup pole that was taken just after the shootings. Almost 60% of Americans supported Armed Security in each school. And also, the pole revealed that gun restricion was inneffective and not supported by the majority of those participating. Hey, in the very school district that shootings occurred in, there is an Armed security guard in the High School. So Why does the Liberal + 1 media, say the NRA is crazy when over half of the American people agree with the concept. We have many Good men, with service in one or more of the Sandy contry wars. Wouldn't a Battle Hardened veteran with children make the best Security Personell in the world to protect our children.
Thomas Jefferson exerpt from the Thomas Jefferson Papers. "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed unless the Government tries to take it away."
The Fathers of our country put the second amendment in so that if in the future, the Governemnt Tries to take the rights granted by our creator from us, WE the people can take-back their corrupt Government.
I realize that this is too long, but it something I really needed to get off of my chest. And to let the world know that we are tetering on the edge of deep dark gourge. I believed the President to be intelligent. His actions over the next few weeks will determine the fate of my country and how he goes down in history. And if he goes the Executive Proclamation route, he is totally stupid, has no reguard for the Constituition, and will be facing impeachment for Treason, which by the way calls for the death sentence.
Let us all pray for quidance for our leaders. It might just take divine intervention.
The Pastor has the Freedom Of Choice to do so. In a true dictatorship he would have no choice and would be arrested. It is a shame that this Pastor does not truely understand what a Democracy stands for.
This was intended from the start to be a Republic, not a Democracy. I'm sure you don't know the difference though. This pastor should have never agreed to do this in the first place and no Christian pastor should be anywhere near this event. Any Christian pastor who hears and obeys in the word of God in the Bible would be commiting a sin if in support of accepting this lifestyle as normal into our society. The bible is riddled with verses regarding the sin of homosexuality and those who accept it as normal. I will stand behind my personal belief that a gay lifestyle is a sin in the eye of God, but I am not going to bash them or judge them for it. It is not my duty to judge or condemn, that is for God to do.
I am glad someone has the guts to stand up against Obama............if that is what he believes in, then good for him. Too many people don't stand up for what they believe in these days, and just becasue Obama took "his" stand, doesn't mean the country has to agree with him. America is getting too whisy-washy . Where is the backbone of people today?
Thanks for living up to your convictions,faith and integrety. liberals just don't understand ,everything is ok with them.There is no black or white,just grey.