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Obama Doctrine...
God save us.
redvirginia - you are such an idiot. Don't you just get embarrassed being you when you wake up?
The United States needs a gun reform agenda, or is the extreme NRA objective for the American people to be at war with each other?
2nd Amendment supporters also want sensible gun laws.
We chickens with flesh & blood families out here - will no longer be held $$hostage to the blind devotees of the ever-greedy NRA gun manufacturers.
They are reporting that Obama might bypass congress on gun control and make changes via executive order. I think that would be a big mistake. This would certainly wake up a lot of people, not sure if he wants that kind of attention.
Really don't like this 'WH had to invite...NRA had to accept' line being floated.
From my perspective, the WH "had to" not from a PR perspective, but because they stated they would...seeking input from ALL areas of interest.
The NRA on the other hand made no such indication. Now they TOLD America what it should do. They made a claim about being ready to make a 'significant contribution'. But they made no such claim that they would work with Victims families or any gun safety groups or pro-gun legislation groups...so no, in my mind they did not have to 'accept' the invitation, but they DID, most definitely for PR purposes.
I have no doubts this Administration wants to get this done, but the Admin as well as the NRA knows that unless the Public puts a major squeeze on these hacks they continually put in the House and the Senate, legislation has little to no chance of becoming Law.
thetotas,
“They” Just who is THEY?
SeekingSanity
redvirginia - you are such an idiot
Idiots are the kool-aid drinkers, blame yourself and the irrational left. Ignoring the real causes of the massacres.
Rham Emanuel with the most extreme gun control regulations , is unable to lower the number ofl deaths in the streets of Chicago.
@ Redvirginia and seekingsanity ...
Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Instead of any meaningful input on the story ... or the issue at hand ... you simply resort to name calling. And we wonder why Congress can't get its act together! It simply represents the PEOPLE and unfortunately ... so do you two!
redvirigina - your ignorance is clear when you spout the kool-aid nonsense. It is used by mentally deficient conservatives who listen to FOX and couldn't have an original thought on anything!
Backhouse
I live in Massachusetts - already a regulated state - and I am surrounded by gun owners but I have not met one gun-owning person who is opposed to a reform. They know that have nothing to worry about - no one is going to take their guns away. But they know that the status quo is not working and 20 dead kids is proof.
bayllie - responsible gun owners will NOT have a problem with gun reform. Makes me wonder why the others really want guns!
redvirginia
yes, because the fact that anyone and everyone can purchase a gun from a private sale without any kind of background check is his fault. Right? Chicago's gun regulations are only as good as the loopholes allowed by the federal government.
SeekingSanity
something to b*tch about, I guess. Don't forget, there are plenty of people who would love to see the Safe Drinking Water Act eliminated because it prevents companies from making a higher profit by not dumping chemicals into rivers.
bayllie
Nooo. Delinquents are not register gun owners, delinquents buy guns from the black market. Government need to go after gun traffickers , not legal gun owners.
The guns used in Chicago in the gang killings came in from areas that had lesser gun control laws. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-08-27/news/ct-met-gun-trace-study-20120827_1_suburban-gun-shops-gun-laws-gun-violence . There is no study about how much higher the number of killings would be IF guns were more accessible directly in Chicago but the police and FBI presumption is that there would be even more.
With the current gun laws in place, it is difficult, if not impossible to be able to trace the guns to "straw purchasers" in those areas that buy guns specifically with the intent of passing them on to the criminal element.
redvirginia
deliquents do not have to buy guns from a black market when they can buy one from someone else who bought it LEGALLY. That's what private sales do: 40% of the all gun sales.
More than 2/3rs of states have no laws requiring background checks during private party sales which increases the risk of weapons falling into the hands of convicted felons, juveniles or those who are mentally ill.
Matthew-2771918
I'll bet it didn't take you long to figure this out so why is it so hard for some to understand that we make it easy for those who should not have guns to have guns? We don't even make them work for it.
Dennise,
They” Just who is THEY?
News outlets.
They are reporting that Obama might bypass congress on gun control and make changes via executive order. I think that would be a big mistake. This would certainly wake up a lot of people, not sure if he wants that kind of attention.
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King Barry the First only calls it an "executive order" for PR reasons. He really considers them to be Royal Decrees that all who must kneel before Him must obey.
Its not going to fly.
I knew as soon as I saw that they had added "Doctrine" after the Presidents name that the accusations of "uppittiness" in various forms would soon follow!!!
"They are reporting"... "Obama might bypass"... "King Barry the first"... "Royal Decrees"... "God save us"... "news outlets"...
Do you sissified racists even know the difference between you and real Americans? Here's a hint... You're trespassing!! Get off our lawn!! LOL
No sensible person wants any gun restrictions. When you look at the direction this country is headed every sensible person is arming themselves the best they can.
I do not own a weapon with a 30 round clip. I still think they are perfectly safe and have no concern about those that do have them. An AR-15 is a point and click weapon capable of mass destruction when properly used. If you want to take the time to master it you should be allowed to carry and defend yourself and others from fools who will try and do you harm.
Some one said God help us. I feel God has no concern for us now. We took God out of everything so why should he help us. Therefore we need firepower to keep the wolfs at bay.
UMUSTbekidding...
"We took God out of everything"?????
In what nutty set of beliefs is God manipulated, invited, uninvited, etc. by the measly mortals ignorant enough to think so??
I need to know who they are because if they're in charge of God's schedule maybe they can arrange a meet for me with him.... Only if they determine he has the extra time though, because I don't want to make his management team angry...
Sheesh... And the fire-power to replace him???...
Seeking,
Bite ME! Your stupidy is amazing.
Get violent video games out of kids hands. Stop creating new ones.
Kill an enemy when it attacks. Know an ememy when you see one. Never order "Stand Down" when a fellow American is being murdered by an enemy, as Obama did in Benghazi.
74% of gun owners support a long waiting period, removing the gun show loophole and removing weapons of mass destruction.
the president as well as congress has the duty to protect the safety and well being of all citizens. do your job!
The President has a DUTY to uphold the Constitution and its amendments. This does not give Obama the license to pick and choose which laws he will enforce and which he will ignore.
Unfortunately, however, that is EXACTLY what Obama does ... he has IGNORED existing immigration laws because he personally does not like them and because it "got him votes". Obama has also ignored laws requiring a BUDGET .... because his philosophy is to GROW GOVERNMENT at any and all costs !
Jimbo you do realize that more illegals have been sent back across our border under Obama than any other president don't you? Of course you don't as it doesn't fit your agenda of hatered. You don't seem to understand that we have the strongest ever border security under Obama than any other president. Bush started beefing up the border and Obama has continued that. You are quick to criticize what you perceive as Obama's lax of treatment of illegals but fail to recall that Ronald Reagan gave mass amnesty to all illegals signalling that it is okay to cross our border without impunity. You really need to pay close attention or do some research before spewing YOUR opinion. Sure you have free speech and your opinion counts in a democratic conversation like anyone else's so even if you prove yourself a fool please keep posting as you have a right to do so.
Adler, You CONVENIENTLY ignore Obama's Executive Order that certain classes of illegal aliens (he decided and by-passed Congress) would NOT be sent back, even if they came here illegally.... or did you simply bypass that little tidbit of reality on purpose ? Perhaps, your "brain" is simply "addled" such that you cannot remember Obama's sidestep that just happened ... what ? ... last year ?? Was it the year before ???
Reagan's effort was meant to be a "one-time deal" so your weak attempt at rewriting history is useless.
I noticed you failed to say anything about the required BUDGETS that have never come about under his so-called "leadership". Where are the budgets, addled one ?
Adler, Jimmynumbers isn't capable of responding to actual facts. He prefers things out of context, one-sided, and exaggerated to dizzying heights. He's a loony. So loony in fact that when you describe Reagans blanket amnesty as a green light to illegal immigration he can't process it. etc., etc.
Aww, chicky poo.... as usual, liberals like you who are UNABLE to refute simple statements with facts have to resort to personal attacks .... because it is, after all, "ALL YOU GOT". So sorry for you ... a typical liberal who has replaced any semblance of debate with potty mouth name calling.
Of course, judging from your other absurd posts ...it is INDEED, all you have to offer.
Maybe one day, you will be relevant. Keep trying.
@redvirginia - Seems like you should be reacting more to the constant cycle of new catch phrases the media produces, than really anything substantive about actions the Administration has done.
74% of who kr ?
Gun violence will not be solved by JUST more control or JUST mental health screening or JUST closing loopholes in the existing laws. It will take a combination of all of those things to begin to make a dent in this problem ... a problem that is KILLING OUR KIDS!
But until we learn to sit down and calmly and rationally discuss things ... nothing will happen.
An example ... I mentioned to a friend we needed to do something to keep guns off the streets. My friend immediately jumped all over me about wanting to take away Second Amendment rights. But nowhere in my comment did I say I wanted to do that ... I am just looking for a way to keep the guns away from those who shouldn't have them (i.e. criminals and the mentally ill). But I was never given the chance to continue with my comments because of my friend's knee jerk reaction to what he THOUGHT he heard me say.
We need to get over this and LISTEN to each other (and quit name calling).
Beth - it has to be a combination of things: close the loopholes that allow private gun shows and gun owners to sell to anyone without a thorough background check; required training to have a gun license; no assault weapons or large ammo clips; better mental health screenings and treatment for those who need it. There is no simple answer but there ARE answers.
We have to do something - everyone deserves better than the mass shootings that continue to take place.
Beth: Been there. Keep the faith.
The gun shows in California abide by the laws. There is no way you will get a gun without the 10 waiting period, background check, pass the test, safety class and either purchase a lock for your weapon or prove you have a safe to store your weapon.
Beth, exactly, well said.
Seekingsanity -- you didn't listen. That's EXACTLY what I "said". Not ONE thing will solve the problem.
So far I like the Obama doctrine----we're out of one senseless war, on our way out of another, didn't get into it in Libya or Syria and the President and his team are dealing with Iran. And we are respected again in the world. Oh, and did I mention that Osama bin Laden is dead.
Wars are good for the economy. I want my president to wake up everyday and sign the death warrant for Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Keep those guys running and hiding and they can't plan attacks on U.S. soil. It's worth the billions we spend and like I said it's good for the economy.
Kill an enemy when it attacks. Know an ememy when you see one. Never order "Stand Down" when a fellow American is being murdered by an enemy, as Obama did in Benghazi.
Last time the Dems pushed through an assault weapons bill they got murdered in the mid-terms. Big southern dummies don't like that.
That would make no sense since the "got murdered" ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ! LOL !!
"Big southern dummies" can only vote in "Big Southern" states ! Sorry, you get an "F" in logic.
The Obama Doctrine is simple ... "Grow Government at every opportunity".
the nra doesn't represent it's member 74% want some form on gun control...assault weapson, mags and closing the loopholes at gun shows.....who the nra respresent is the gun manufacturers,,,and the 115 million a year they contribute to the nra.... you're paying for a membership of an organization that ultimately only listening to there bosses and it aint' you...,,,, funny how tragedy's like this clarify the truth about say the nra.... Its only about the money....more gun buy more guns....wow.... didn't you think you were paying monies to an organization that listened to there members opinions.....you're being short changed....dump them stop contributing to an organization that has shown it only wants your mony not your opinion.....boooo hiss
we need guns to defend us against the regime.
Ya'll kind of sound like what Oboma said about big oil companies. The problem never was guns. Colorado & Mass. is about parents.
Ya'll sound like big oil, I don't thing guns is an important as parenting. Those kidds sick like they where shouldn't have been around guns. If you don't think there will be a gun around look at the president supposely home state, and he was a senator since 05, blame that on Mr. Bush too.