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Subscribe to RSSSenate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Sunday that Republicans will not support more revenue-raising measures in future fights over the nation's deficit, saying that President Barack Obama should lead on addressing spending cuts alone.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell talks about the GOP's desired policy changes in negotiations with President Barack Obama over the debt ceiling.
"That's over," McConnell said on NBC's Meet the Press when asked about possible new streams of revenue through taxes or tax code reforms.
"We've resolved this issue," McConnell said. "We don't have this problem because we tax too little, we have it because we spend way, way too much. So we've settled the tax issue and now we have to address the single biggest threat to America's future, and that's our excessive spending."
McConnell helped broker an eleventh-hour deal to avert the fiscal cliff last week, a bill that included the expiration of Bush-era tax rates for some of the wealthiest Americans. On Sunday, McConnell defended that deal, opposed by many House Republicans despite an overwhelming bipartisan deal in the Senate.
"Look, this was not a tax increase," he said of the fiscal cliff agreement. "It was not the kind of complete deal we'd like because we want to cut spending but we did stabilize taxes. The tax issue's behind us."
McConnell did not answer repeated questions about whether or not he would use the threat of a government shutdown to force Democrats' hand on spending cuts.
"I know what your question is," he told host David Gregory. "What I'm telling you is I have not given up on the president stepping up to the plate and tackling the biggest issue confronting the country.
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Silly Obama voters. You really never expected him to address his insane spending, did you? Obama will bankrupt America, and you people will be just as responsible for re-electing this disaster. Anyone happen to notice team Obama's year 5 deficit is expected to be around 1.4 trillion dollars? I get a kick out of the fools who blamed anyone but Obama for HIS poor results and the massive debt. We take in about 3 billion dollars a day, yet we spend about 11 billion per day. What the hell did you think would happen? You asked for it, and you are going to get what you asked for. Too bad you didn't take the time to educate yourselves before re-electing this fool.
Your post speaks volumes about the reality of how useless and inept the GOP/TEA/Dumb FUX NEWS party is...
And pelosi suggested that further tax hikes are on the table. Wonder why California businesses are leaving in droves?
Provide a link to who is leaving where please . I know this other thing called ZED stoff . BTW
You look for the link...I live there. Worst rated state for business...go check it out. Over regulated - more taxes.
And no, I dont subscribe to GOP or DEM....usually somewhere in the middle where common sense lives.
In other words , you dont have one . NIce edit btw .
The story on losses from CA to other states ran on NBC a week or two ago. They are going mostly to Texas and, I believe, Nevada. Apple, for instance, is expanding its operations in Austin TX.
Only dumb FUX NEWS believe this about California since that is another lie from the lying liars selling advertisements.
Last quarter of 2012 has Cali in the lead surpassing Texas in job creation. Every fortune 1,000 company on the DOW and Nasdaq has operations here. Housing in is back and building permits have hit a 5 year high.
Budget changes over the last election have Cali showing a budget surplus by 2015.
Oh, and in Cali, Republicans are listed on the endangered species list...
All the leaves are brown...and the sky is grey.......California Dreamin' on such a winters day...
Peter17 nice to see you . I see the repubs started paying again for posts .
Well , 14 pages later , I am still reading the same repub/dem responses . You , NICE folks are the problem . Military spending is out of control , In case you forgot , Its gonna take 10 + years to audit the DOD .
Entitlement programs MUST be reviewed for ways to CUT Congressional spending . Did I mention Congress Spends the money ?
Congress only authorizes the spending, and it must be approved by the President. It is the Administrative Branch that actually spends most of it. The Judicial Branch spends some on the court system and Congress spends on what it takes to run the House and the Senate, but the vast majority is actually spent by Obama's Administrative Branch.
I am sure YOU have some stats from a reputable source .
You can check on the official Obama White House website. Look for the link to the Office of Management and Budget.
ha..next question.
Like my ex-wife. I put money in her account and she spent it.
The next time congressional repubs try to make the debt ceiling a big thing . ASK THEM WHY they spent that money . Us Independents are not going to vote for your usual idiots .
Everyone complains about the Government(house,senate) but the American Idiots are th ones who vote them in office.STOP voting the same idiots into office.I didn't vote for the idiots who cut your take home pay by 2% .You who voted for the Democrats are so stupid.I guess you like givining your money away to a government who doesn't care for the working population.WAKEUP
Zzzzzzz
Nov 2012 Unemployment Rates (5 most populous states) from BLS data on their website:
9.8% - California
6.2% - Texas
8.3% - New York
8.1% - Florida
8.7% - Illinois
I guess your favorite song is "California Dreaming".
Really..is that why we had to pass propositions to keep school funding at an already low level? California is like 49th in per pupil funding...and I have no idea who said we will have a surplus in 2 years. Cal has always been Democratic (nothing new)... Sorry YOU are dreaming
Lets see the ROI stats for the states , LMAO . Just which ones are on Welfare ?
See....by the zzzzs he must be dreaming...
You fools couldn't afford to live here. You'll feel rich on minimum wage in some God forsaken Texas crap hole...
I live In California... quite nicely too. The last round of propositions (additional taxes that were voted for) was to keep the State programs somewhat afloat. On what planet do you reside?
In 2009 Texas ranked 25th in terms of median household income, higher than states like Ohio, Indiana and Michigan. When adjusted for cost of living differences, only 10 states had higher median household incomes than Texas - Maryland, Massachusetts, Virginia, Wyoming, Delaware, Washington, Minnesota, Colorado, Utah, and Illinois. New Jersey had the same median income and both California and New York had lower median incomes.
From Forbes March 2012 list of 10 fastest growing cities in the U.S.: Austin TX is number 1 on the Forbes list for the 2nd year in a row, Dallas-Ft Worth is number 2, Houston is number 4 and San Antonio is number 9. Those are the four largest metro areas of Texas. Low taxes and cheap real estate are still drawing jobs and economic activity from other parts of the country.
sources provided...
Check the Forbes website for their criteria for ranking growth in metro areas. The data on median income comes from the U.S. Census Bureau, and can be found on their website.
You couldn't pay me enough to leave California for Texas. So what,a bigger house and income,I'd still be in hell...
...and brace yourselves for another credit downgrade. way to go America
Honestly , Conservatives cannot seem to understand that HIGHER interest rate thingy . THAT money is already SPENT RETARDS .
@carpenter,
NO! The money is NOT ALREADY SPENT. Congress has authorized the spending but the money is not immediate spent just because a spending bill is passed.
Just like your own life, you plan expeditures for your budget period. That doesn't mean you have all the money now and spend it all as soon as you plan it. It's January now. You plan to take a summer vacation that will cost $3000. If you lost your job in March, you might change your plans and either cancel the vacation outright or take a scaled-back one (depending on how much you had already really spent on the original plan and if it were refundable).
So it's not quite like you want to spin it, is it?
You better go read up on the DEbt Ceiling . I do not care to educate you . Except to let you you know the "debt ceiling " is about the money congress already spent . are you just a Party person or what ?
BTW your little rant just keeps assuring me , Repubs are out of touch with reality .LMAO are you liking that Higher interest rate on our national debt ?
@carpenter,
The debt ceiling is the maximum amount the Treasury is allowed to borrow. That's it.
We have budgeted $174k per congressperson per year for FY13. Does that mean we spent it all already? Last I checked they do not get lump-sum payments up front.
The way it works is that if we could no longer borrow, then we would have to pay the debt service first to avoid default and then prioritize all other approved spending (either de-approved it or pay only a portion of it).
Of course such a scenario is not realistic, as it would result in a domestic and global depression. Pragmatically the debt ceiling has to be increased and we need to gradually reverse the deficit and turn it into a balanced budget (much like you wean people off addictions instead of doing it cold-turkey).
HMMM , why are we borrowing again ? You know this is a Chicken versus egg , AS you present it . I am more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy .
you're half right...the nuts part
Enuf: You are wrong about the debt ceiling. It is not about future payments, but about paying for expenses already incurred. Here's the official word from the GAO:
"The debt limit does not control or limit the ability of the federal government to run deficits or incur obligations. Rather, it is a limit on the ability to pay obligations already incurred."
Here's the link:
Please read the document in detail, it is quite interesting and it would do you good to understand what you're talking about.
This is the problem with the entire discussion -- one side understands the issue (and that the focus now needs to on jobs and the economy) and the other doesn't.
Let US all be honest Spending gotta go down , Repubs do not tax and spend . THEY borrow and spend, Then they complain about the money they spent . Make a big deal out of approving the money OUR congress has already spent . Is well stupid . Do Not elect the same IDIOTS next time .
You seem to espouse being independent...yet you post about GOP. Why do the Dems get a pass? If gOP wants cuts, then why not harp on DEMS who dont want any non-military cuts? Just asking?
Look Peroxide /oxygen I am an Independent And just like the Independents that handed YOU a loss in the Election . I am done with your Ideology . The 1950's where NOT that good , and this is 2013.
REAL life was not on the TV .
So you dont have an answer. I'll ask again, Are not Dems just as responsible for finding spending cuts?
And by 'you" I guess you asume I'm GOP...wrong again, a bad ASSumption. I just asked a question.
P. Staff,
Not many democrats posting that state they don't want non-military cuts...most are stating that corporate welfare, and entitlement "reform" are to be looked at, along with defense cuts. What independents and democrats are asking, why aren't republicans willing to go after waste and fraud in corporate welfare, loopholes, along with entitlements, and the defense budget.
You MISSED my answer , is your problem . The gop /Tp is too far gone for resurrection . You did it to yourselves .
carpenter- Could go along with your line, until "the 50's were NOT that good". I have no idea just how old you are, buy apparently you were not old enough to have during that time. There was a pretty rough drough during the 50's, but economically it is probably one of the best, if not the best, period in recebt histroy.
who didnt read... first you ask for sources yet provide none...and Peter is kicking your butt. Second, I have posted TWICE that I am not GOP..yet you refer to me as such. I have no issue with looking at all types of cuts (yes corporate too), and have been willing to pay more in taxes in my state (voted). But BOTH parties lack guts when it comes to cutting anything...so why not take politics out of it and do an across the board type (small) cut.
I get your point Jackie, but Carpenter was just asked why he blames only GOP in suggesting cuts. Pretty simple question..no answer yet.
"The 1950's where NOT that good , and this is 2013."
Carpenter...The 50's(financially speaking with civil rights aside) WERE the greatest economic time in the countries history. I am talking about cost of living,living wages,inflation,unemployment,GDP growth,debt to GDP ratio(the 50's paid down a HUGE percent of WW II debt),and balanced budgets for most of the decade. Ike was a true conservative and a Republican yet he had a top tax rate of 92% and upon leaving office warned,not endorsed, against the military industrial complex which is a very large factor in the problems of today. Modern day Republicans wouldn't have him and yet look at his record....Peace...
Well that was a nice and fairly honest version of history . None of that describes the IDIOTS in Our government today . The "conservatives today are NOT IKE . they are religious idealouges who want my money and my wifes , and daughters Vagina to be under their control . NOT Doing it and FOOK a Repubs that runs . Seriously until the repubs decide to NOT tell me or my family how their religion says , I must live . FOOK them all .
Christian Taliban , Have NO use for them .
We will know that the government is working well, when it no longer makes the news! As long as there is more drama in Washington then there is in prime time TV shows, we will have problems. Most of the readers live in a county or township, bet they don't even know the last name of key officicals. No major malfunctions, no unnecessary and destructive drama, out of site and out of mind (good government!)
If the entitled rich decide to leave the country and take the small amount of their money that is still left in this country with them, good riddence. Sophisticated analysis is beginning to show that the US ecnomy would actually work better without their influence!
All we need is a responsible "balanced budget" ammendment to the US constitution and the drama will go away (good government).
So , how you going to provide for Emergency and disasters , under your little " Balanced Budget " ???
You know Hurricanes , tornadoes WARS . Things like that ?
All legitimate balanced-budget amendment proposals that have been put forth included temporary exception for true national emergencies.
Perhaps if people like you focused more on being a part of the solution instead of trying to cause antagonism and division we might actually start dealing with the problem and getting a handle on it.
OK , So define true . Is TRUE what your party decides it is ? Or is true like true , In other words, The NICE folks in Congress that are holding up the disaster bill ?
At this point it is not possible to have a balanced federal budget, the amount of debt is too high and the annual federal budget deficit is too large. Enough spending cuts and additional revenue need to be found to begin reducing the total national debt to GDP ratio and keep it on a downward track. That will be the best we can do considering that we will also have to make major changes to Medicare and Medicaid plus more modest changes to Social Security.
Well said peter17 .
@carpenter,
Stop being so childish. Most reasonable Americans have a pretty good idea of what would qualify (a war, major terrorist attack, national disaster, etc.).
Do you really get your jollies by coming here just to try to prevoke people into responding to your drivel? How about being constructive instead?
@Peter,
+1
As I said above, this is a longer-term project which we still have the ability to achieve. It will take a decade or more, and we're running out of time before we won't be able to deal with it.
So that SANDY thing just passed with no NAYS then ?
Stop telling me your Ideology , I heard it from SMITT for 8 years now . Sucking Mitt . I am Just here to watch REPUB heads EXplode. You nice fools are the ones that tanked THIS and the WORLDS economy . Instead of DOING anything , You keep saying "IT was NOT us " . IT WAS Repubs and the fooking WORLD knows IT .
A balanced budget is supposed to make you live within your means. This has been a moot point in that the GOP for the 8 years of the Bush administration used 'emergency' funding for every penny spent on both wars. So $2T was added to the deficit without ever being in a spending bill. A balanced budget is a pipe dream.
Much has been said about the 'irresponsible' spending of the Obama administration, but not much said about the fact that the GOP has been in charge of the House for two years. Obama cannot spend a dime or allocate a penny of federal funds except for those funds granted to him by Congress, i.e., the GOP House. During the fiscal debate, conservatives made much about their proposal to cut loopholes and deductions, yet failed to enumerate even one that they would want to implement. (Earlier in the year they even defeated a Dem move to end the credits for big oil) Even now they castigate Obama for not putting 'spending'cuts into the fiscal cliff bill, but that was designed to address the tax hikes, not spending. The GOP has yet to propose any changes to Medicare, SS, or Medicaid, and only want to eliminate Obamacare, which the CBO says will INCREASE the debt. Would love to see an actual bill introduced by the GOP House to address spending cuts and see what THEY are willing to put on the table. Any thing substantial is out of the question, as they are in damage control mode now, and making massive changes to the big 3 would be a disaster for their party.
President Obama have reduced federal spending by $3 trillion dollars over the last two years and he has reduced the Bush/Cheney $1.5 trillion dollars yearly budget dificit by $300 billion dollars...
Federal Government Outlays according to the White House Office of Management and Budget:
2007 - $2.729 trillion
2008 - $2.983 trillion
2009 - $3.518 trillion (2009 budget signed into law by Obama after taking office)
2010 - $3.456 trillion
2011 - $3.603 trillion
2012 est. - $3.796 trillion (an $800 billion increase over last Bush budget for 2008)
Federal Government Spending as a Percent of GDP (Office of Management and Budget Data):
19.8% - average during 8 Clinton years
19.6% - average during 8 Bush2 years
24.5% - average during first 3 Obama years
Lets just stop Interstate welfare then . Every state gets to keep its own taxes .
McConnel typifies what is wrong with the Republicans. On CBS he evaded the questions and kept on bad mouthing and cutting down President Obama, which is just what he was doing before in his comitment to make Obama a one term president. Along with him is the low mentality and wastefullness expressed by Michelle Bachman in her first day bill to try repeal the Health Care Reform. Can't any of them do any thing new and positive for the country instead of tearing down what has happened and being in oposition and obsturctionist to anything positive and good for the people?
The CBO reports that a repeal will INCREASE the debt. So much for the GOP being serious about this.
I am 51 years old , at no time have i ever witnessed a more ignorant political party than todays GOP .
Yes kids " Ignorant " does mean you can get some knowledge .
More sources from Peter above ... have some
The BAD thing is that you ASSume , I have never read your stuff . You would be wrong .
Had enuf... I agree with many of your ideas in post #337. I disagree with Peter about job cuts. I believe the money is at the top and here's why...
A 2011 study by the CBO found that the top earning 1 percent of households gained about 228% after federal taxes and income transfers over a period between 1982 and 2007, compared to a gain of just under 42% for the more than 60 percent in the middle of America's income distribution.
From 1982 to 2007 the top 400 earners in the U.S.saw their income increase 292% and their average tax rate reduced by 47%.The share of total income in America going to the top 1% of American households (also after federal taxes and income transfers) increased from 11.3% in 1979 to 20.9% in 2007.According to the United States Census Bureau, the income inequality between the richest and poorest grew to its widest in 2011,as the census recorded 46.2 million(!!) people living in poverty(Largest divide since the late '20's)..
As a reference point, the minimum wage rate in 2009 was $7.25 per hour or $15,080 for the 2080 hours in a typical work year. The minimum wage is a little more than the poverty level for a family of four and about 50% of the poverty level for a single person.By contrast,the top salary in the U.S. in 2009 was $2.1 million an hour for a total of $4.2 BILLION annual salary(Wall St. hedge fund mgr). We have more than enough capital and resources in this country. We are managing them from the top down instead of the bottom up. We need to return to the taxes,laws,and regulations that helped this country during it's greatest time which was from '32-'81. These are some ideas that I believe would help but like you say it is going to take 10 years minimum to get us truly back to prosperity......Peace.....
Adopt 1924 Tax Code*(Adjusted for inflation) for personal income rates-(No exemptions/loopholes/credits/deductions)..Adopt 1924 Tax Code*(Adjusted for inflation) for corporate/business income rates-(No exemptions/loopholes/credits/deductions)..Adopt 1924 Tax Code*(Adjusted for inflation) for capital gains rates-(No exemptions/loopholes/credits/deductions)..Adopt 2.5% National Sales Tax-($10-15 Billion/year) and 5% Surtax on US Off-Shore Income and Accounts above 1 million..Adopt Balanced Budget Amendment-(To be implemented after debt paid down)..
Enact Buffet Rule-(Minimum 35% Income Tax on 7 figure incomes)..Enact Low Corporate/Industrial Carbon Tax-($50-75 Billion/year)..Enact 10% Additional Tax Penalty to Corporations that choose to outsource American Jobs.. Enact 1% Federal Property Tax on homes above 1 million..Enact 1% Financial Transaction Tax on financial transaction profits..Enact 1% Federal Ticket Tax on Entertainment/Sporting events involving attendance of 5,000 or more..
Reform Political Finance System-(Over $2 Billion spent on 2012 presidential election alone) ..Reform Corporate/Agriculture Subsidies..Reform Legal/Court/Prison Systems..Reform Border and Immigration Laws-(Cap Immigration per year by quota)..Reform Wall St/Corporate Finance Laws-(Dodd/Frank not enough)..Reform Gas/Big Oil/Green Energy Subsidies..Reform Welfare and Welfare fraud-(Food stamps being abused,BMW's at the housing projects,etc)..
Legalize and Tax Marijuana while redirecting Law enforcement dollars to real crime..Impose TARP Bank Tax on Banks over $5 Billion in assets for financial crisis stability-($50-100 Billion/year)..Convert Unemployment benefits into Jobs/Careers-($520 Billion spent from '07-'12 in Unemployment benefits)..Convert Government Buildings/Schools to 10-50% Wind/Solar..
Slow the Growth of Social Security and Medicare-(Raise eligibility age,Adjust COLA,and Eliminate Benefits for wealthy)..Sell 5-10% of certain Government Assets-(Total assets currently valued at $2.7 Trillion).. 5-10% Cuts in all Government Spending including Defense,Discretionary,and Entitlement-($200-350 Billion/year)..Create 1-900-YOU-VOTE for elections to eliminate fraud,long lines and raise revenue-($2.00 per voter)..
Restructure Amtrak and Public transportation for max profit and operation..Restructure Utility Grid and Post Office for max profit and operation..Restructure National Air/Rail/Port Systems for 21st Century..Restructure National/State lotteries for multiple 6-figure jackpots not single 9-figure jackpots-(More consumer spending)..
Initiate National Move towards 4 cylinder/hybrid/bio cars-trucks..Initiate National Multi-level Jobs/Rural Grant Program..Initiate National Inner-city Real Estate Renovation.. Initiate National Annual Audit of All Government Expenses and Eliminate Waste/Fraud-($100-250 Billion/year)..
Increase Investments in Education and Infrastructure/Transportation-(Public/Private)..Increase Domestic Products Manufacturing and Exports-(Public/Private)..Increase Domestic Energy Research and Production-(Public/Private)..Increase Domestic Recycling and Industrial Clean-up Efforts..Tap into 10-20% of oil reserves for economic boost..Abolish both political parties and divert war chests to deficit..Abolish Political lobbying and Political earmarks..Adjust import/export tariffs to favor US manufacturing instead of China..
This data can be found on the Congressional Budget Office website, which uses data from the IRS, or on the Tax Policy Center website in an October 24, 2012 report on "Average Income and Income Shares".
Share of Before-Tax Income:
Income Group…..2009……….1983
1st 20%.............5.1%............5.4%
2nd 20%.............9.8%...........10.4%
Mid 20%............14.7%..........15.5%
4th 20%.............21.1%..........22.1%
Top 20%............50.8%..........47.2%
Top 1%..............13.4%..........10.1%
Share of After-Tax Income:
Income Group…..2009….....1983
1st 20%.............6.2%............6.1%
2nd 20%.............11.1%..........11.3%
Mid 20%............15.8%..........16.0%
4th 20%.............21.6%..........22.1%
Top 20%............47.2%..........45.2%
Top 1%..............11.5%..........9.3%
I don't see much change in the last set of numbers on share of after-tax income, do you???
sec i'll go get the states , its obvious you wont .
If you are referring to the median income info I posted, it is on the U.S. Census Website.
Take Texas, for example. In 2009 their median income was $48,259. Adjusted for the cost of living it was $53,009.
For Calif, in 2009 their median income was $58,931. Adjusted for cost of living it was $44,456.
Peter...Once again you make my case for me. Compare '81-Today to '32-'80. Look at inequality,cost of living,national debt(WW II notwithstanding), wages for the middle class,wages and assets of the upper class, crime and poverty. You only went back 30 years. That's the whole point. Reagan reformed everything(taxes,banking regulations,lobbying laws,outsourcing,immigration,etc...) more than any President since FDR. The cost of living more than tripled while living wages barely doubled for the middle class and more than quadrupled for the upper class as the deficit soared taking America in the process from being the number one creditor nation in the world in 1980 to the largest debtor nation in the world by 1986 where we have remained ever since.
Thanks for proving my point....Peace....
Here is that same data from 1979 which is pre-Reagan. This data can be found on the Congressional Budget Office website, which uses data from the IRS, or on the Tax Policy Center website in an October 24, 2012 report on “Average Income and Income Shares”.
Share of Before-Tax Income:
Income Group…..2009……….1979
1st 20%.............5.1%............6.2%
2nd 20%.............9.8%...........11.2%
Mid 20%............14.7%..........15.8%
4th 20%.............21.1%..........22.0%
Top 20%............50.8%..........44.9%
Top 1%..............13.4%..........8.1%
Share of After-Tax Income:
Income Group…..2009….....1979
1st 20%.............6.2%............7.4%
2nd 20%.............11.1%..........12.3%
Mid 20%............15.8%..........16.5%
4th 20%.............21.6%..........22.2%
Top 20%............47.2%..........42.0%
Top 1%..............11.5%..........7.4%
Still, not much change in 30 years and that comes from data beginning during the Carter years. Presidents Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, plus Bush2 and all the various Congresses during that period and all the things that happened, and STILL not much change. It appears that the federal government has far less impact on incomes and wealth creation than people believe.
Adjust it in dollars and inflation peter17 . You know we wont let you just tell stories .
Peter...Once again you miss the point by not going back far enough. There are 2 ways to run the country.
1) The laws,regulations,and taxes of FDR's New Deal which ran it from '32-'80.
2) The laws,regulations,and taxes of Reaganomics which ran it from '81-Today. Which one do you think is better for the long term?
I'll give you another example...There are 2 ways to run a corporation.
1) The Wal-Mart way(Low wages for workers resulting in corporate welfare which enables the Walton's to reside in the Top 10 of the Forbes 400 year after year).
2) The Costco way(Costco pays $17 an hour to its employees. How? The CEO only pays himself $300K a year yet he is a multi millionaire because of stock options on a growing company that benefits its community while having a productive and spending workforce). So....
More Spending=More Demand=More Jobs. See how that works? The middle class are the economic engine we need,NOT the wealthy economic engine which outsources and invests off shore a large portion of American capital. It is simple math.....Peace....
P.S. Carter was elected in '76 not '79.
More "No Hopey, No Changey" comments from today's GOP. This is the best and brightest KY has to offer?
So tell me how the dEms are doing the "change" thing? All thats been done is raise taxes...been there Mr. Carter.
PSTOFF
I will bet you 10k of Mitt Romney's money - the Turtle Leader from KY will offer nothing new. Live in the past all you like, you elders are all the same, frankly.
@ Had e snuff Your post was "As I said above, this is a longer-term project which we still have the ability to achieve. It will take a decade or more, and we're running out of time before we won't be able to deal with it."
there you go asking for "proof" or specifics..when you blather in generalities. Is hypocrisy a prerequisite for being independent? No answer needed..I'm going to bed
" There you go , Again " was Ronnie Raygun's thing . He is dead , I voted for that mentally ill person ONCE myself . You she/HE/they/IT are not him . You can PRETEND though .
Top Ten (Source: Tax Foundation):
1. New Mexico Indian reservations, military bases, federal research labs, farm subsidies, retirement programs
2. Mississippi Farm subsidies, military spending, nutrition and anti-poverty aid, retirement programs.
3. Alaska Per capita No 1 recipient of federal benefits; infrastructure projects, DOT and pork projects.
4. Louisiana Disaster relief, farm subsidies, anti-poverty and nutrition aid, military spending.
5. W. Virginia Farm subsidies, anti-poverty and nutrition aid.
6. N. Dakota Farm subsidies, energy subsidies, retirement and anti-poverty programs, Indian reservations.
7. Alabama Retirement programs, anti-poverty and nutrition aid, federal space/military spending, farm subsidies.
8. S. Dakota Retirement programs, nutrition aid, farm subsidies, military spending, Indian reservations.
9. Virginia Civil service pensions, military spending, veterans benefits, retirement, anti-poverty aid.
10. Kentucky Retirement programs, nutritional and anti-poverty aid, farm subsidies.
YEEEEHAW lets vote more republicanbs into KY . Good place for them .
"Welfare recipients take out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores...."
...and some of you idiots want to cut my military retired pay for this...
Retired, Military SOF
LMAOROFL what ? Surely you dont believe , EBT , cards work for cigs . beer or strippers ? That is a foolish political ploy by the People that want into your wifes , daughters vagina . We call them RUSHES .
Unknownrider,
Don't know where you are getting your information, but, military cuts being discussed are for military equipment such as tanks and planes that the military has already stated they don't need. It is for the bloated military industrial complex, waste and fraud.....not the military's pay, VA benefits, or pensions. What does welfare recipients and their actions have to do with your military pension???
Good ol' "Top priority to make Obama a one term president" Sen Mitch McConnell has something else to say? Well Sen McConnell, you obviously failed in your guest. But in taking on that quest, you also failed the "American people" that you so much thought you were speaking for, as in doing so you became a prime obstructionist.
You sir, are irrevalent. You have failed in your office as a United States Senator.
well said , NONE of these people represent US . and just to me , EVERY AZZwipe that signed a pledge to a LOBBYIST , Is a traitor .
Isn't it written in the constitution, the debt obligations will not be questioned ? Or something like that! Does that give the President the power to raise the debt ceiling by executive order, If need be under the constitution ?
NOW you have done it . All the repubs will be pulling out their abridged Pocket copys . Be advised now the Amendments and such Never seem to be read .
Well, the President, did say he would not play that game with them again this year, on bills that have already been racked up.! The President did study constitutional law at, was it Harvard or Yale or both?
Last I read was , The president was gonna let these IDIOTS sink or swim on their own vote . That BTW was an excellent idea .Carry on Boehner and McConnel
Nearly all of the south-eastern Republican controlled, red states are welfare states... Northern Democrat blue states are donor states, that subsidize the takers who live in the red rebel states...
The people we elected to office have created this massive problem. Now they pass this "11th Hour Deal..." that never should have needed to be passed and they want a pat on the back for Raising our taxes, Yes the deal will increase the taxes that most middle class citizens, who are already at the limit as it is, are going to end up paying.
None of those in office currently deserve to be there any longer. We can no longer accept voting for the lesser of 2 or 3 evils that are running for a given seat. They have abused and made themselves rich messing up our system. We need to get rid of everyone of them, put term limits on them, Revamp their pay scales, force them to pay into their retirement systems and out of the Social Security system, Force them to pay for their medical Coverage like everyone else. You see the problem we have is they don't face any of those things. They collect 6 figure salaries for messing up. Somehow, while everyone else in America is required to have medical Insurance or be Penalized, they managed to vote themselves an exemption. Why not, they get free medical for life as long as they serve 1 term.
The parties, and I do mean both of them, have screwed so much up now that if they were to fix it they would have to essentially undo everything that has been done in the last 20 years and we simply can't afford to do that.
I heard the definition of Politics was "Politics is the art of postponing a decision until the answer is no longer relevant." That is the problem with our current elected officials, they have been doing that for over 20 years in some cases.
Our Founding Fathers had a vision once. A great Vision. It's too bad they are rolling over in their graves now over what has become that vision. You can trace the problems back to when the parties started to make changes to the way our President and Vice President are actually elected. NO, it has not always been done the way it is now. If you don't me on that take the time to actually look up how the first Presidents and Vice Presidents were selected. What you find will surprise you.
We have made many advances over the years, too bad how our Government is run isn't included in that list.