Boehner likely to be reelected speaker, but there could be drama

The House will vote tomorrow to elect a Speaker of the House. While it is likely that Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) will be reelected, if 17 conservatives decide to vote against Boehner, it could lead to the first second ballot for speaker since 1923.

There are no indications Boehner will not be re-elected Speaker. While there will likely be members who vote against him, there is no real candidate that could garner enough votes to take Boehner down.

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House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) leaves a House Republican Caucus meeting.

The 113th Congress will convene for the first time at noon Thursday, after which the House will vote to elect a speaker.

Members will be called by name alphabetically and asked for their vote. This vote is different than typical votes, which are done electronically during a set period of time. 

The next speaker needs a majority of all votes cast to be elected. They do not need a majority of the full membership of the House. The 113th has 434 members because Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.'s seat will be vacant.  

If all members were to vote, Boehner would need 218 votes, unless there are members who are absent for the vote or members who vote "present" (for no one).

Since 1913, the year the House reached the size of 435 members, there has only been one time that no candidate received the majority of the votes cast for speaker.  

That was in 1923, when nine ballots over three days were needed before Rep. Frederick Gillett (R-MA) was reelected to the position for a third term.

The speaker does not have to be a member of Congress, but in the history of the House of Representatives there has never been a speaker who was not a member.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) nominated Newt Gingrich this year during the Republican Conference meeting, but that nomination was not seconded, and Speaker Boehner was nominated by a voice vote (no objectors) to be the Republicans' nominee yet again.  Democrats chose to have Nancy Pelosi as their nominee for Speaker of the House.

Between 1943 and 1995, only the nominated Republican and Democrat received votes, but before that, it was customary for members of other groups within parties would garner votes as well. 

Since 1913, the speaker has been elected without a majority of the whole House, but with the majority of those voting, only four times: 

-- 1917 (65th Congress) -- "Champ" Clark (D-MO) was elected with 217 votes; 
-- 1923 (68th Congress) -- Frederick Gillett (R-MA) was elected with 215 votes;
-- 1943 (78th Congress) -- Sam Rayburn (D-TX) was elected with 217 votes;
-- 1997 (105th Congress) -- Newt Gingrich (R-GA) was elected with 216 votes

Recent speaker votes:

-- 2011 (Jan. 5th): Boehner 241, Pelosi 173, Shuler 11, Lewis (GA) 2 Costa 1, Cardoza 1, Cooper 1, Kaptur 1, Hoyer 1, Present 1 
-- 2009 (Jan. 6th): Pelosi 255, Boehner 174
-- 2007 (Jan. 4th): Pelosi 233, Boehner 202
-- 2005 (Jan. 4th): Hastert 226, Pelosi 199, Murtha 1, Present 1 

 

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Let the people vote for speaker of the house.

I'd bet my disability check Mr pad my pockets Boehner would not be re-elected......

  • 3 votes
Reply#55 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 3:51 PM EST

Well, of course Boehner will get re-elected. It's obvious that he's done such a stellar job so far. Congress's approval rating is below 10%. (eyeroll)

  • 5 votes
Reply#56 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 3:54 PM EST

Dont count Eric out. He is twisting that knife whenever he can.

  • 4 votes
Reply#57 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 3:56 PM EST

Politicians always stick together. Very few have any conscience at all...

  • 2 votes
Reply#58 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 3:58 PM EST

If Boehner is re-elected,it will just prove to the people of our great country that most politicians in office do not care about what the the citizens want or think.

It only proves,that they are in office for their own financial gains,and protection.

  • 4 votes
Reply#59 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:01 PM EST

There are three parties in congress. Republican, T Party, and Democrats, so who could lead any two. Boner can't control the T for terrorist party. They run to get elected, but they really hate our government. How do they intend on controlling a government that they are trying to ruin. Stupid, extremist. They should pack up and go to the mid east where they can fit in.

  • 3 votes
Reply#60 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:07 PM EST

Isn't Boehner a drunk? Still, he's better than Newt Gingrich (ick). I liked Nancy Pelosi OK, but she needed to think for herself and her constituents more and be less of a cheerleader for everything the President handed down. And I LOVE President Obama, don't get me wrong (go ahead and call me names, conservatives), I just think a Speaker of the House should show some more independence than I saw from her.

  • 1 vote
Reply#61 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:10 PM EST

Wrong. Pelosi got a great deal of positive things done. Opposite of Boehner and Cantor.

  • 2 votes
#61.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:31 PM EST
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Since we are in such a financial rut and supposedly owe China a boat load of money,then why in the hell are we still handing out money on foreign aid?

If i was in a financial rut ( i am) i'm sure as hell are not going to give my neighbor the money i need so he can fix his car or leaky roof.

    Reply#62 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:10 PM EST

    Crazy rationale in what you say. The deficit was originally created by TWO UNPAID WARS and Drug programs created to give more money to drug companies. Why don't you do your homework before commenting.

    • 2 votes
    #62.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:30 PM EST
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    David Ryon will be running against John Boehner for Speaker of the House of the 113th United States Congress

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


    PRLog (Press Release) - Dec. 21, 2012 - Since no conservative member of the House has come forward to challenge John Boehner as Speaker, I will since its not required to be a member of the House to be elected Speaker.

    John Boehner has failed the Republican Party and the american people. Boehner's lack of the most basic knowledge of being a congressman is staggering. Boehner doesn't know the difference between the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Boehner lied to the GOP National Convention.

    Boehner was caught during a voice vote reading from a teleprompter stating that the ayes have it before the vote was even taken. At the very least a floor vote should have been called by Boehner. Boehner and his ilk were there to subvert the will of the members of our party. Boehner is not a fiscal conservative by any means.

    John Boehner has voted in favor of increasing the debt ceiling multiple times. Boehner has no intention to ever balance the budget of the United States of America.

    I ask every American to contact your Representative and ask them to vote for David Blair Ryon of Columbus, Ohio 3rd Congressional District as the next Speaker of the House of the 113th United States Congress. Maybe its time the House elected a non-member and non-insider as Speaker in order to put the people above the politics. representatives/find/

    Sincerely,

    David Ryon

    • 1 vote
    Reply#63 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:14 PM EST

    Another GOP who lives in lala land.

    • 2 votes
    #63.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:29 PM EST
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    No not Boehner again!!! Here's your chance to start correcting the huge mistakes that have been made. He's absolutely disgusting. No not Pelosi either. Try Paul Ryan. And don't even think about the Boehner's tody, Cantor!!! Oh and this time let's get something done.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#64 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:18 PM EST

    If rumor is correct and John Boehner is going to resign as Speaker, boy is the GOP House going down the tubes. There is no way that Eric Cantor is capable to take over. He does not have what it takes. Everything he has to deal with is a joke to him. Plus the GOP needs real leadership with a leader who lives in the real world instead of lala land, is willing to listen to their real constituents and not their financial donors and understands that compromise is the only way that we can grow our economy and reduce our deficit.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#65 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:24 PM EST

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#66 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:30 PM EST

    Real Nuts - ya need to lay off the cigs, booze, & pot for 2013!

    • 4 votes
    #66.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:38 PM EST
    Reply

    I am hearing that Boehner is going to resign this evening setting up Cantor for Speaker. Careful what you all wish for!

    • 1 vote
    Reply#67 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:30 PM EST

    HA-Ha, reelect "Smoker of the House" Boehner and GOP Governors will be voted out of office 2014.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#68 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:34 PM EST

    Whoever is Speaker of the House will be determined by house republicans...none of you people bitchin' about your favorite whine get a vote...

    • 1 vote
    Reply#69 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:35 PM EST

    Dee Ten, That's why this government sucks. The people have no say in any way.

      #69.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:53 PM EST
      Reply

      He probably pissed off enough of those tea party jokers, some of those votes will be lost.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#70 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:37 PM EST

      Boehner likely to be reelected speaker

      You've got to be kidding! This is the best you people, our society, can do?

      • 1 vote
      Reply#71 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:46 PM EST

      If Boehner is re-elected, it will be because the Tea Party faction wants a weak Speaker so they can continue to undermine establishment Republicans and continue to push hard right.

      • 1 vote
      #71.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:57 PM EST
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      Crooks vote crooks in office all the time. All these people in the crook house are bad people. Boehner works for the rich, Every one can see this. There all worth a lot of money because of the people. Greed is all these people are about. There the worst this country has ever seen, That's why this country is going to hell. Get the crooks out.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#72 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:47 PM EST

      thats exactly what our government is....very rich crooks....

      and we voted them in there....

        #72.1 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 6:12 PM EST
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        Maybe the GOP will try and put their best foot forward this time instead of their best "used car salesman". These last few days have demonstrated Boner's real problem. Walking out in the hallway after another session with a big grin on his face like "I've got them by the short hairs now." Just once I'd like to see him do something for the Americans in this country rather than those filthy-rich folks who will pack up and move to Bimini when the going gets tough in the US. We've brinked on a depression several times now. The GOP wants spending cuts? How about the defense budget? I'm a retired Marine with two sons who are Marines. What a grand waste of money the last dozen years have been! And George W put it all on the credit card, along with his prescription drug failure, and those very generous tax cuts for everyone. All charged to our children and grand children. Obama inherited it along with W's hemorrhaging economy and unemployment. Boner is the No man for the GOP. Whatever the Democrats want, the answer is no. I'm waiting for the next election. We're going to clean house. There isn't one trustworthy candidate in the entire GOP. Hilarious! 

          Reply#73 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:50 PM EST

          Boehner had the guts to stand up against the Obama regime. But the way this country is going it would not suprise me if we give up the house to the socialist movement.

            Reply#74 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:52 PM EST

            If John Bonehead gets re-elected Speaker of the House it will show just how pathetic the House Republicans are as a party.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#75 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:53 PM EST

            Well, let's see now: Boehner = 169 votes; Cantor = 49 votes and Nancy Pelosi = 216 votes. Who do you think wins in this scenario? There is absolutely nothing that says the Speaker of the House has to come from the Republicans, especially when they can't get their act together. At least the Democrats know which direction the sun comes up and the sun sets.

              Reply#76 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:54 PM EST

              It will be interesting to see who votes for Cantor. The Tea Party must be so proud of itself these days.

                Reply#77 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 4:59 PM EST

                Thank God he will stay!! Hes the real thorn in darn Obanmas side !! We need him there doing just that-watching for all those give away =entitlement bull @!$%# programs!!

                  Reply#78 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 5:00 PM EST

                  Really? Again, this nitwit got re-elected? Well can't say I'm too surprised, I mean look we had Gingrich running for president not long ago, when his sorry arse should have been in jail for all he did....sigh..murica!

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#79 - Wed Jan 2, 2013 5:08 PM EST
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