AND he's MORMON. In theory (apparently very MUCH in theory) they do not consume alcohol!

well, he's just a flexible mormon. probably not a flexible legislator.

Piggy--don't make spelling jokes about Dan Quayle without first spelling "Quayle" correctly. Just sayin'...

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easie222 -

At least your should spell Ben Quayle, the Arizona congressman (son of Dan) correctly? Take it essie.

I have to agree. If you cannot spell, do not critisize (critisise) um, crap, I can't spell either. But I wouldn't correct a grade schooler if I wasn't sure!

OMG, a human thing was exposed! come on Mike, you've got a job to do. buck up. feeling guilt and shame is a self-indulgence you should not indulge in if I was a republican legislator forced into obstructionism by 'political realities', i'd need a drink myself. mormons are rank amateur drinkers with little experience. a couple of thimbles full, over the cliff. that's not a criticism. just takes one to know one

Brad, your misspelling undermines credibility that you have some knowledge whereof you speak.

The rule of the road is 'don't drink and drive.'

Senator Crap just wanted to test if the rule still works. Now he is satisfied and will testify in the Senate about his findings from his fact-finding mission.

Brad, how about GIVING a blow job in a Minneapolis airport restroom?? Or messing around with young male pages? Look people, the Mormon republican senator made the same mistake thousands of people make every day. He will go in front of the judge, be told he can't drive for 6 months, pay a small fine (small for what he makes) get a government paid chauffeur and continue to move us forward to the cliff. Maybe he lives on the senate subway route and can just use that to get to his office the three days they spend a week in Washington.

Brad-1037441, Clinton didn't endanger others' lives with his inappropriate actions. This senator could have killed someone. Haven't you heard, drinking and driving kills? He has broken the law and should pay dearly for it, particularly in his position. He is a "criminal" and as such should be kicked out of the Senate. I don't know if you would have made light of this had it been Obama who did it??? Or if this drunk had hit one of your kids???

Crazy Eddie,

I've been and I can happily inform you that a nice pocket of sensible & hip folks live in Blaine county (SUN VALLEY Ketchum area) ... It's a great place within what is generally a conservative state.

Another holier than thou mormon BS artist

DUI is a whole lot worse than getting a blow job in the oval office. Why? Because DUI is an action which has the potential to put other people's lives and property at stake and getting a blow job in the oval office between 2 consenting adults doesn't put any lives at risk... only a few possible stains on the carpet that can be cleaned.

Furthermore, if you think that WJC was the first POTUS to have a bit of sex without the First Lady giving it or getting it, you're in fantasy land. Many historians have suggested that good old Abe was doing it with his male friend while Mrs. Lincoln was doing herself in the Lincoln Bedroom. Just sayin'.

Tnuts only know how to tell others how to live

Oh No! The sppellling poleece are here. run, run. lol never fails, when you have nothing intelegent to say, pick on speling. lol (on to the story)

Crapo? people actually voted for guy named Crapo? lol The kids in school must have made him miserable, which is probably why he became a conservative . There has got to be more to this story. What cop would arrest a politician for dwi? A senator. He had to be very very drunk for a cop to risk his or her career. Can't wait to hear the details as they emerge.

oh! and just for the record, there is no cliff. If nothing is done, we return to the tax tables of 1999. now i don't know about you guys, but in 1999 I was doing really good. as a single owner/operator of a one man company, i had more work then I could handle. If that's what we are returning to, I say, WOOOOOPIE.

What a crappy situation to be in Crapo....

With a name like Crapo, makes the situation look even crappier than it is....holy crap

I love these egotists, especially congressmen. He does it in the face of all of his constituents, then, only then says he is sorry and will take steps to not let it happen again. Now what the heck does that mean?? First if he was going to be sorry he would not have done it, second, "not let it happen again"?? Now if it happened once while he was drunk what the h is he gonna do to make sure it doesn't happen again?? This slays me every time I hear it coming out of these jerks mouths. You are there to lead our country and you make this stupid, idiot mistake and you expect me to smile and say oh, well sure it is ok. The number of different hypocritic things coming from this jerk just amazes me. I think when they, any congressman (or woman) creates any thing of this nature they should be obligated to resign. Gee, being from Idaho I bet he also had a gun in the car in DC where it is prohibited.

Doc, sorta like Anthony Weiner isn't it. I would think they might take a lesson from Hollywood and change their name to some screen name, after all it is just a fairytale to these guys being in DC isn't it?

Brad, driving while drunk kills thousands of innocent people every year. Senator Crapo should be thrown out of office for putting the lives of his constituents at risk. But I am sure he will use his political power to get off with a slap on the wrist and wont even lose his license like the rest of us would..

I've heard you can pass those sobriety tests if you assume a wide stance.

And this is one of the congressmen who will be voting on the fiscal cliff--we have a major problem at central conrol.

This could be a good thing. If there are more social conservatives like Crapo in the party, then all we really need to get them to sign off on a fiscal cliff deal is to throw them a party with tons of free booze and hookers. At least a few male hookers. Problem solved and everybody goes home happy. Now that's bipartisanship.

descrs-1664846

Brad-1037441, Clinton didn't endanger others' lives with his inappropriate actions. This senator could have killed someone. Haven't you heard, drinking and driving kills? He has broken the law and should pay dearly for it, particularly in his position. He is a "criminal" and as such should be kicked out of the Senate. I don't know if you would have made light of this had it been Obama who did it??? Or if this drunk had hit one of your kids???

kicked out? lol! being a criminal is a prerequisite for being in the senate in the first place

Well, at least he wasn't tap dancing in the airport restroom in Minneapolis -- a favorite pasttime of another (in)famous senator from Idaho.

Where are the moral and ethical principles and honesty. I think we should expect from our elected officials. Put him through the ringer they would if it was any us. They don't even have to use the same health plan, they are shoving down our throat's.

why any elected person isn't fired with loss of benefits after being convicted of a crime is beyond my understanding but then again i don't get to make up the laws of this once great republic.

Crazy Steve-1996926:

Idaho can sure pick 'em.....

Of course, if you've been there you'd understand.

Ohio sends Boner to congress....Minnesota send Bachmann....and you've got a problem with Idaho?

Yes once again dear friends we have another rep hypocrite... no one should act surprized and that is the saddest part of it all. And 'Morman' to boot? Yup. 'Our' represenatatives at their best. Don't care rep or dem, they ought to be on their damned best behavior while getting ready to rape this once great country with higher taxes for all, and liberty for who? Well, they got theirs so why not... and who let them get away with it? We did, yes, we did. We who didn't bother to vote, we who voted but didn't bother to know the candidate, we who knew the candidate but voted for them because someone ELSE told us to, and how many of us actually did check out their platforms and saw how they changed and learned for what they stood? Not enough apparently. Oh, and btw I didn't spell check this and am sure someone will easily find errors.. have fun!

Tens of thousands of people DIE every damn year from alcohol influenced driving. Then, this is what some republipuke tries to point out:

I don't know, whats worse? A DUI or getting a blow job in the oval office?

If you don't know which of these is "worse", aside from being morally bankrupt, you are a complete moron. But, unfortunately, THIS is a window into the "soul" of the modern Republican party. Death and destruction, who the @!$%# cares?? But, SEX, OH MY GOD! The world is ending as we know it!

"Which is worse?????" With sick bastards like this, voting AND in governance, God help us all.

I blame the bartender at the gay nightclub for serving him too much.

Sen. Crapo failed multiple field sobriety tests, so the presumption of innocence will have shifted to reasonable assumption of drunkeness. Mr. Crapo should save his constituents and the state of Idaho embarrassment and resign immediately so that the process of seating his replacement can move forward in all due haste.

Idaho's representation in Congress is far more important than any one person; and that State and every State of our Republic should quite rightly hold its Congressional delegations to a higher standard.

Sen. Crapo, do not linger, resign now.

I believe "Crapo" in the original French was "Crappeau" or "Crappeaux."

After such an embarrassingly public DUI, I would imagine that his five children may be making the argument to their dad that perhaps they should change the family name spelling back.

Life for kids and grandchildren is rough enough after public embarrassments caused by their parents, ... and that on top of living with a last name which will get you beaten up on the playground just for walking funny.

Thanks for the chuckle, Forrest. Happy Holidays.

:-)

Yup that there "jack" are about as teetotellin' as them there bearded fellas from that there Arabia or sumptin when their Daddies ain't alookin...'nuff shame far alls them whats'n get catched wit da nose full and driven a bottle home! ! !

Hey don't forget santorum and his area. God the republican party is such a laughing stock with these buffoons having taken it over.

Happy Holidays Robert in Oregon, and to all, may your fondest wishes for your loved ones come true.

and this piece of crap is among the ruthless repubes holding the country hostage and everyone will go over the cliff cause they don't want rich people to pay their fair share in taxes. and i'll bet my rent money the great gentleman from idaho wants everyone to have assaut rifles with at least 30 rounds.

these moral midgets are always on the wrong side of history, and common sense.

My friends what you all missed is Mormons don't drink hard liquor - so not only is this person a fake on family values - he is a fake to his religion

One more down how many more to go?

Forest - enjoyed your posting - you make me laugh and sometimes cry

Robert - my neighbor to the South of me your sanity uplifts me

And since I am a late night poster - vowed when I retired I will never again be held to a dawn schedule - all my early risers Merry Christmas and god willing a Happy New Year!

Good evening 'burb' officer..what can I do for you 'hiccup' tonight?

I need your drivers license and vehicle registration sir.

Do you realize I'm a US Sinator 'hiccup' from Ipaho 'burb'...u can't arist me 'burb'

I know who you are sir, do you realize I'm a police officer and a democrat?

jack-364934 There's no need to get political. There are drinkers in both houses of Congress. It is not fair to mention one or two, when there are dozens. However, you missed the point: Senator Crapo was driving while intoxicated. He made the bad choice to drive after consuming alcohol; and, he is not the first Mormon to do that.

Anyone with a lick of sense knows that one should NEVER drink and drive - even if there was a meal with the drinking...

Therefore, Senator Crapo should resign, because he has demonstrated that he does not have any common sense. He is an embarrassment to the good citizens of Idaho.

Maybe he told the police officer, "What thinks you make I've been drinking?"

From other news around country:

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A Democratic senator from Pocatello arrested in early December after police say he drove drunk has been named to a leadership post.

Sen. Edgar Malepaei was chosen by his Senate party mates as minority caucus chair, a post he'd occupied since 2004 but vacated during the two-year leave he took from serving to care for his sick wife.

Senate Minority Leader Kate Kelly, a Boise Democrat, says the DUI arrest was discussed, but that her Democratic colleagues decided Malepeai deserved the leadership post due to his respect and stature among lawmakers from both parties.

Kelly said, "It far outweighed this recent issu

I wonder what our little army of trolls has to say about this decision by their all - mighty Democratic party that not only drives drunk in droves, but gets leadership positions for doing so...

If only he hadn't been partying with Boehner! They probably made him eat the worm.............

"The biggest political lush ever in the history of recent American politics was Ted ( I killed Mary Jo Kopeckne) Kennedy."

• The OLDEST justification in the world --- two wrongs make a right. Ted Kennedy driving drunk in 1969 is NOT an excuse for this clown to drive drunk in 2012.

"how about GIVING a blow job in a Minneapolis airport restroom?? "

It's OLD but still funny!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV1BGh6XYUU

Obama did say drink eggnog...

What are the odds of the only two sinners in the history of the State of Idaho getting elected and then caught sinning?

Probably like picking all six lottery numbers two weeks in a row!!!

Crapo - showed very poor judgment and should resign - immediately

A Democrat Minnesota lawmaker Kerry Gauthier, 56 who authorities say admitted having a liaison with a 17-year-old boy at a rest stop faced calls from party leaders Monday to resign.

Police say the teenager responded to the lawmaker's Craigslist ad for "no strings attached" sex.

Rep. Gauthier admitted to the liaison, according to police reports made public late last week. The teen told police the two had oral sex, according to the reports.

Those elected of questionable judgement.

Brad-1037441

I don't know, whats worse? A DUI or getting a blow job in the oval office?

Mormons are forbidden by their religion to consume alcohol. Driving while intoxicated is against the law and has the potential for deadly consequences.

What Clinton did was wrong and immoral, but he wasn't putting anyone's life at risk.

You decide which is worse.

The funny part KB was he did it while Hillary and Chelsea were asleep in the White House - Ho Ho Ho!

If he was a democrat, the media would have never published it!

Why is that funny, Marcus, and how do you know what time of day it was?

Why are we even discussing Clinton when the subject of the article is Crapo? Why didn't he go home to Idaho for the holidays?

Let's face it... politicians are hardly paragons of virtue, regardless of their political affiliation. Don't look to them as role models, friends!

For those who celebrate it, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

"Im not defending anyone's actions but I am most certainly amused by the limitless hypocrisy from you FR socialists."

• Elliott -- since this guy is a Republican, you would defend him if he raped a 3 year old girl.

Happy Festivus

The liberal bias is just oozing from this site!!

wavesofgrain (alcohol),

Try going to FOX News! I hear they're "FAIR and BALANCED".

Perhaps you would be happier among others like yourself! :) Ho Ho Ho!

Myron1......""""""From other news around country:

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A Democratic senator from Pocatello arrested in early December after police say he drove drunk has been named to a leadership post.

Sen. Edgar Malepaei was chosen by his Senate party mates as minority caucus chair, a post he'd occupied since 2004 but vacated during the two-year leave he took from serving to care for his sick wife.

Senate Minority Leader Kate Kelly, a Boise Democrat, says the DUI arrest was discussed, but that her Democratic colleagues decided Malepeai deserved the leadership post due to his respect and stature among lawmakers from both parties.

Kelly said, "It far outweighed this recent issue

I wonder what our little army of trolls has to say about this decision by their all - mighty Democratic party that not only drives drunk in droves, but gets leadership positions for doing so..."""""""

Thanks for posting this, Miron!!! Why didn't MSN give this equal news????????? It only proves the bias of this media!!!

Just another right wing conservative, greedy and power hungry republican drunk

Conservative viewpoints, ya gotta love them!

If a Democrat does something wrong, he/she is inherently evil.

If a Republican does the same thing, the Devil tempted him/her!

Satan, yeah! that's who did it!

Let's blame the other invisible guy!

on another subject, Can we please ban Ledapex62 now? the only posts are this same stupid ad!

'But officer, the world didn't end on the 21st so I drove around looking for a cliff.'

If all law breakers were put in jail and had to resign, just about every one would be out of a job and in jail, except me. OOPS! Wait a minute, I was doing 29 in a 25mph zone yesterday. Thats breaking the law. Make room for one more law breaker. Damn!!!!! Hypocrisy runs wild. I thought I was "pure."

What a rank amateur. He's no Ted Kennedy is he?

Wow..Another thread that just proves Democrats are perfect and do nothing wrong...Man I've been mislead all these years....

His last name says it all and what we're getting from Washington!

Senator Crapo, do you have to?

Do you have to?

Do you have to Smell My FInger?

It is curious,look at how this story is blown up, but when it came out that Obama was a Marxist, doper, alcoholic, with multiple" boyfriends", at least one of whom died under mysterious circumstances,not a word from the Lap dog, Marxist Socialist Media nor Obama's merry band of mindless, kneejerk, zombie, apologists ,in fact they did their best to bury the reports, but when "Clean Face" Harry Reid,("Clean Face" is the nickname ol' Harry's Mafia Bosses gave him, as recorded on tape by the FBI, when he was in charge of the Gaming Commission in Nevada, on his way to being the Mafia and Union's Senator from that state),tells a blatant, defamatory, lie about Mitt Romney, it is just reported as truth, without any investigation,then of course dropped after the election, Pravda, Communist, and anti American extremists everywhere must be proud. Too bad for Mr. Crapo, if he had been a Dem He would be well on his way to being a Presidential Candidate now. ,

but when it came out that Obama was a Marxist, doper, alcoholic, with multiple" boyfriends", at least one of whom died under mysterious circumstances,not a word from the Lap dog, Marxist Socialist Media nor Obama's merry band of mindless, kneejerk, zombie, apologists

Wow! Someone's got their panties in a wad this morning!

Are you still upset about Romney and little Paulie getting their butts kicked in November?

If so, Please try to get over it. If you don't, it's going to be a miserable four (yes 4) more years!

HAPPY FESTIVUS EVE!!!!!

How does he pronounce his last name? I know how it should be pronounced from now on!

He should be thrown out of congress and revoke any benefits of the office....just like they should do to all law-breakers in CONgress.

Kerry - Cheating on taxes.

Rangle - Cheating on taxes.

Waters - Corruption of steering funds to her husband's bank..

And on and on....I don't care Dem or Rep...They are lawmakers and should be held to a higher standard. If they get caught violating the law....THROW THEM OUT.

Unfortunately, people will just vote him back in...like Marion Barry getting caught with crack, but they just voted him back in. Americans have no pride or dignity anymore. Just "D" or "R" is all we care about these days. And before anyone says it, I know Barry wasn't in congress. It's an example of how no one cares about politicians having morals.

Brad--I now I'm way down on the thread here but I'm wondering,just what the hell is a "falice"? That word is not in any dictionary I have seen.

Bob in Oregon--Happy and Peaceful Holidays to you and yours.

Brad: The DUI is worse. Drunk drivers can kill or injure others. Bill Clinton's conduct was a victimless transgression, and should have been left between him, Hillary, and Monica. Instead the GOP spent something like $70 million taxpayer dollars to try to make something prosecutable stick to him.

Paws93

I second that proposal! Now who do we get to propose this new law?.........................................I can't seem to think of any living politician who would do it!

Oh well!

Such hatred, imagine if he had been molesting underage Congressional Pages, he would have been run out of town on a rail just like Barney Frank. Oh yeah, that's right, Barney was a Democrat displaying his sexual preferences so that was OK.

Can you imagine having to face the do Nothings and Mitt and Lying Ryan if they had been elected in the new term. The haves would sure put us middle and havenots in our place. But then what you you expect from Mitt, a member of a religious cult!

I love how the news now wants to make sure they include a person's religion so they can plant in your mind this guy is Mormon so look at what he did. Harry Reid is Mormon too but look how he lies or maybe I should say plants a seed and lets the media go wild with it. That tall tale that Romney wasn't paying his taxes....you have to produce your income taxes for several year when you sign on too run for the main offices in Washington. Bottom line, once they get to Washington whatever faith they had going in gets thrown out the door. True Mormons don't drink, lie or take caffine just for starters.

BTW George, "going over the cliff" means a bit more than reverting to 1999 tax tables. It will also result in 2 million people immediately losing their unemployment insurance. Kind of a bummer losing most of your income in a heartbeat, eh George? The GOP is playing politics with people's lives because they can't bring themselves to compromise with a black President. Why do you think they've filibustered virtually every bill in the Senate? Because they'll do everything in their power to obstruct Obama at the expense of the American people. The ultra conservative baggers that people mindlessly elected to Congress just can't stomach the fact that there's a black man in the White House, and it's disgusting. They need to get over it, because thankfully, he's there for another 4 years.

Fuzzy

Nice try at changing the subject Fuzzy, You have studied Your rules for radicals well, and as far as the next four years, they are going to be miserable anyway, that's a given,can't change that, the damage has been done, but, it's never too late to try to educate and stimulate thought and reason among those who are not too far gone, to actually question what they are being fed,and We will be here to do that, but, in the meantime, MERRY CHRISTMAS! and GOD BLESS US EVERYONE!

Sentator Crapo DOES NOT DRINK.

But, when he DOES drink, he drinks Dos Eckeez.

Stay Thirsty, my Friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4zfsy6rsM

True Mormons don't drink, lie or take caffine just for starters.

Yet, for years, they own a huge portion of Coca Cola Stock. It's OK to sell it, just don't use it.

that sounds like Nicky Barnes the Heroin kingpin drug lord!

J.D.

I don't really consider myself a radical. I'm actually a lot more conserative than you think. I was a registered Republican for years. Until I realized they were selling the country down the road to ruin! If it makes you feel any better, I am not very happy with alot of Dems either!

A Happy and Safe Holiday Season to you and the ones you love!

What was Crapo hanging around Washington for? The "Cliff" is going to happen! These clowns are not coming back to Corruption Hill after the Holiday! The Prez is in Hawaii and he's not coming back either!

Two words. Ted Kennedy

Fuzzy 44, I do consider myself a radical and those who govern this country are a two headed snake. While they say they are public servants, I see who they truly are every time I pass a gas station-------------------- self serv. Merry Christmas

How Ironic is this ? I am neither democrat or republican. Liberal or conservative.

They don't ask whether you are Repulican or democrat , liberal or conservative.

When you blow into a breathalyzer. They just want to know how drunk you are.

Any politician no matter what party should be more responsible. When you do stupid things you are in the public eye. Take a cab you get paid whether you work or not you can afford it.

David, the difference between Kennedy and Crapo is simple. Kennedy is not part of a group who claims drinking is a sin (mormon). Kennedy was Irish, and the Irish never condemn drinking. They where both fools cause they had enough money to have a paid driver. however in 1969 there was no real penalty for dwi. drinking and driving where considered as American as apple pie. ahhhh the good old days

Born & raised a jack mormon. Reminds me of an old saying in Utah. Always take two Mormons on a fishing trip, if you just invite one he will drink all your beer & smoke your cigs. However if you take two they will stay clean.

David, the difference between Kennedy and Crapo is simple.

And Kennedy is dead! You forgot about that! That's a BIG difference!

Hey Brad1037...

What's worse getting a blow job in the Oval Office or inventing a war where 1,000s of people die? Neither political persuasion has a lock on morality. You guys always bring up Clinton - give it a rest!!

Miron1

From other news around country:

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A Democratic senator from Pocatello arrested in early December after police say he drove drunk has been named to a leadership post.

Sen. Edgar Malepaei was chosen by his Senate party mates as minority caucus chair, a post he'd occupied since 2004 but vacated during the two-year leave he took from serving to care for his sick wife.

Senate Minority Leader Kate Kelly, a Boise Democrat, says the DUI arrest was discussed, but that her Democratic colleagues decided Malepeai deserved the leadership post due to his respect and stature among lawmakers from both parties.

Kelly said, "It far outweighed this recent issu

I wonder what our little army of trolls has to say about this decision by their all - mighty Democratic party that not only drives drunk in droves, but gets leadership positions for doing so...

Psst..Sen. Edgar Malepaei was a "State senator" not a "US senator".

A police officer only gets a bronze medal for arresting a state senator..but arresting a US senator they get a gold medal!

News Item: Republican activists have recently revealed a plan to dig up the rotting corpse of Ted Kennedy, re-animate him and then stage a 10 round, winner takes all, MMA cage fight with the re-animated corpse of Saint Ronald Reagan. Tickets to the event have been sold out for weeks but a pay-per-view package is in the works...When asked about the debt ceiling, gun laws or other pressing issues, the republicans said: Huh????

A Zombie Politician Cage Match? Wow I'm in! LMAO

I've been working my ass off this month, even putting in 62-hour work weeks, while these GnoP clowns party as they hold our nation hostage. And, for what? So they can protect the tax-break entitlements of their billionaire/millionaire "friends"????

My last paycheck was a gross pay of $1,224 for a 62 hour work week, but the net pay was only $972 from that same goddamn paycheck. Do the math on how high a percentage of my income goes to paying taxes, already, here in 2012. It baffles me that these shameless teabaggers, their idiotic/racist constituents, and their rich 1% overlords are whining about having to pay a mere 10-20% of their TOTAL income to taxes, and instead fight tooth-and-nail to corrupt our federal government and tax laws in order to create lopsides taxrates and loopholes that allows the extremely rich to escape paying their fair share in taxes.

So these drunken, underaged-page-molesting, airport-samesex-engaging, running-for-president-without-really-wanting-to, devoid-of-integrity republicans want to send our nation over a cliff and increase MY already high taxes even higher, just because they want to please their billionaire/millionaire china-jobs creators? For the love of goodness, God please end this whig republican party their so-called teo-consdervative movement already. They've long overstayed their welcome in our modern/progressive society. I beg of you to touch the hearts of the racist, bigoted and idiotic of our great nation, and persuade them to throw their support behind some other(new?) political force that is untainted by corporate puppetry.

Nearly, every night this month I've gone to sleep with my hands in so much pain that I've had lay with them in an elevated position and consume ibuprofen in order to manage at least a straight 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Yet, when I eventually awake still in pain, I'm still thankful that I'm headed to my current job, as opposed to still being deployed in Iraq or Afganistan. The hard, thankless work that's been destroying my body during these past few weeks is much more enjoyable than the hard thankless duties I carried out during the final years of my service in the USMC. I just wished that the leaders and voting citizens of my nation were at least a fraction as concerned and sacrificial towards the future well-being of me and my family as I was for all of theirs.

Happy holidays, America!

Paws, 666

bush! " The worst president ever "and the world court in the Hague with a warrant out for his arrest for WAR CRIMES!" Far worse than your list. 7,200 wasted body bags on bush two lost wars!

He's so bad he's been hiding on his ranch in Texas for over 4 years now! A coward too, besides a liar!

Holiday party's , watch how much you drink;

it is not illegal to drink and drive, it is illegal to drink above a certain limit and drive;

do not be fooled by how you feel, you could easily be over the limit of .008; take a cab, or bring someone alone who does not drink; buy a pocket breathalyzer (on line they are cheap), use it if you are out at a party or dinner, do not be fooled as to how you think you feel.

If you are going to drink anything, DO NOT DRIVE !

You never know if someone is going to spike the 7up, Coke, Pepsi, even the water.

At some parties, even the air becomes toxic.

Your best bet is, get together with your friends, hire a car for the night.

Sure beats death.

what a bunch of crap ,crapo looks like crap and is in deep @!$%# now

For all of you who are stating that Bill did not put any ones life in danger by receiving the BJ in the Oval office OBVIOUSLY forget that AIDS can be contracted via a BJ so LIVES could have been in danger if Monica was not clean!!!!!! Good thing he chose a "clean" whore instead of one on the street corner in DC.

crapo looks like crap and is in deep @!$%# now

When I get in trouble, I have to answer to my wife.

He may have to answer to his WIVES!! OUCH!

Well officer I had to drive, you can see I drank so much I can hardly walk!

Senator CRAP O, a staunch fiscal AND SOCIAL conservative, AND A MORMON AT THAT was caught driving his own vehicle DRUNK!!!!!!! What is the world to think? A teetotaler religious "pious" SENATOR making laws to allow the rich even more of your hard earned money, out exercising his "right" to endanger the public even more than he does in his "official" capacity by DRINKING AND DRIVING. WHAT A HYPOCRITE, A PURE UNADULTERATED HYPOCRITE. And of course he did no wrong, the ticket will "disappear" and HIS INSURANCE RATES WILL NOT GO UP, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DUI RECIPIENT. When will we do something about these miserable "law makers" that give themselves PERMANENT salary's FOR LIFE, and health care for LIFE, along with their family, and then stare you in the face and tell you that YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY COST OF LIVING, along with your wife's health care choices. I used to believe in the American people as being "smart" and "intelligent" enough to make rational decisions about their lives AND their future, but I cannot say that anymore. When 26 innocent people are killed IN SCHOOL, and the only answer from the gun lovers is WE NEED MORE GUNS IN THE HANDS OF MORE MENTALLY UNSTABLE PEOPLE, then I say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

If those children had guns they could have stopped the madman - Wayne Lapierre

usa is great - you REALLY had to stretch for that one!

J.D.Still - OMG you are a sick, sick individual if you believe ANY of the trash you posted. But, that certainly makes you a good little Republican, doesn't it?

To Forrest Grump - the NRA is the largest terrorist group in the US!!!

To everyone - have a Merry Christmas!!!! To the Republicans on here - I hope you asked for a brain for Christmas!!!!

Living here in Idaho...not a mormon and have seen too many state and federal politicians from this state do the exact same thing. In Idaho...it's a rite of passage to get a DUI and keep getting elected. Next up...he comes back here...apologizes...gets into a secret meeting with the state Bend Over Party officials and he's reelected to do it all over again.

At least he didn't pull what I call the Idaho plea every other politician uses when pulled for drinking and driving..."Do you know who I am?" One of our state's finest plowed into a boat in a driveway at 5-10 MPH/slumped over the wheel and refused to allow the police to arrest him because he was in the legislature.

Maybe he was drinking because he feels bad about being trapped in an abusive marriage to Grover Norquist.

Well X box. I would like to point out that there are many veterans in the U.S.. My Uncle Bill was a jarhead. My dad was a squid. My two older brothers were in the Army. I served in the USAF. I'm sorry that you are having problems with your hands. I assume you are going to the VA for help? If not give it a try. I believe you need to look for different work. Try one of the Armored car companies. You'll get paid a lot more than you are getting now. If that doesn't appeal to you use your veterans grant to go to college. I'm retired and thats what I am doing. I'm on the Presidents list at the college I'm attending. I've had steel put in my neck. I ache all the time. I am on pills also. I don't know what you have been through. My service was in the 70's. If you don't like your job find a new one. I don't know where you live. If it's on the east coast try relocating to the midwest. Southern Illinois and Southern Indiana are nice areas. There are leadership jobs for Marines here. Management is always looking for a few good men. Try Heartland Foods. They are a great company with good benefits. They are a truly family oriented corporation. Don't blame the republicans for all of your problems! Osama Obama signed the legislation that delayed this till Jan 1st. He could have prevented this long ago. But what am I thinking, he had a election to win!

Hello Ms. Sanity! the Queen of Denial!

The information listed concerning Mr. Obama being a Marxist is from the Democratic Socialist's own newspaper, with photos no less! Doper? Alcoholic? and confirmation that Obama had a radical communist as a mentor while growing up in Hawaii? from Mr. Obama's own book!and the strange death of Mr Obama's "Boyfriend" when Mr Obama was beginning his run for the presidency?, From published statements by the dead man's mother, look em up, they're not hard to find ,that is, if you are really interested in facts instead of being a "Good Little" non thinking, knee jerk, Obama Zombie,but anyway, a Merry Christmas to You and Yours also!

Crapo, a Republican, was stopped after a patrol officer saw his vehicle go through a red light.

Last name and party explain it...

Obviuosly the republicans have moved on to plan "D".

I am with oldmanriver when a politician no matter what party breaks the law and gets caught they should have to resign and lose all that the elite politicians gave themselves. they rag on athletes about being role models and i think the pollys should be also but it will be dismissed as most are when they get caught.

Once again I will say this for all to see.The principal of Sandy Hook could have prevented at least some of the deaths. She could have died trying. She ran towards the sound of gun fire empty handed. If she or some of the adults had concealed carry weapons on their person they would have had a chance of stopping this mentally ill fool. PERIOD. It's just simple logic. There are wackos everywhere. They don't care about a no gun zone.

seekingsanity

why all the hate at a time of giving and love? so have you learned to do your own research yet or still just listening to msnbc dribble? why is it all you do is call names and insult people did you graduate from the school of all I do is right or just make it to the ninth grade. come on both parties are taking us americans for a ride and laughing all the way to the bank

okie58, You have made a good point but I just can't help myself. I'm from Idaho and have been emailing Crapo on several issues and keep getting the most high-handed, holier-than-thou emails back, I can't help but feel just a little satisfaction that the mighty has fallen. I won't put him in the same category as Senator Craig but he is a big fat hypocrite, just the same.

Give me a break BDD, you think people want their kids to have to be in a school where the teachers are armed. What happens when a teacher snaps, what happens when a teacher kills a child when they empty a clip towards a threat. You think the American public wants their kids in a school with armed guards, metal detectors, and should we dress our children in body armour? We made a big deal about not letting terrorist win by changing our way of life, to not let them curb our freedom to come and go and happily live our lives in our own country. Are we now going to do to ourselves what no foreign terrorist has been able to do to us. Do you really think people are safer now that I can bring my gun more places than my cigarettes?

J.D. oh well you cite such believable sources - LOL - what a joke you are! None of what you posted about the President is true and you know it. You just hope you can find someone totally stupid who'll read your post of lies and believe them. It's all people like you have. Aren't you embarrassed when you have to stop sooooo low? As always, not a bit of sanity to be found in the Republican Party - no decency either!

okie58 - I posted what I did because J.D.'s post is all lies. I don't have a lot of tolerence for that - too bad you do. So you find it offensive that I call someone for a post that is simply lies?

bigdaddy'sdawg - amazing since even police say an armed guard, surprised by the gunman, would have likely been killed because of the kind of weapon he had. But, of course, you know better than those who are actually TRAINED to protect.

What do you know, one of those Mittwit type of Mormons. Do as I say and not as I do. According to Mormon teachings followers cannot use alcohol so is this another hypocrite from the Mormon following or has he been corrupted by DC or both? One thing is for sure he was arrested for DUI as a Senator and a follower of the LDS Church. I guess none of these social conservatives follow what they try to make law and advocate for the sake of getting elected. Time to send this Mormon back to the church camp for reprogramming again. He has lost his way. This figures into their hypocritical rhetoric doesn't it?

The left doesn't amaze me anymore....So many on the left walk around as if their $hit doesn't stink or they do nothing wrong...Must be nice living in your perfect world....It's always "yes but Bush" or "yes but a republican" when it is a Democrat being raked over the coals....Or "but this is different" and "yeah but it's not as bad"....

I find it funny now that you all can live the way you do and say the things you do with such a straight face...And the scariest thing is that you all think that there is nothing wrong with it....

Oh and enough of the "your guy lost" crap...You all are the biggest whiners of them and you all cried for 8 years..it's the rights turn to complain just as when you all finally lose you'll get to whine and cry some more....

(and btw I am an Independent)

HOw can we ever trust a drunk to make intelligent decisions for We The People.

This guy is a drunk who knows no better tan to get behind a wheel and endanger everyone else on the road.

And wasn't it a drunk who got us into this finanical mess to begin with???

obviously...he is NOT Mormon...since the Mormon religion forbids alcohol.... just ask Mr. Marriott.... another "do what I say- not as I do" Republican. Maybe he was celebrating at a fiscal cliff party.

Here is the difference Rob68, the republican party has for years now advertised themselves as the "Moral Majority", the party of "Personal Responsibility", the party of "Christian Values", so when time and again they show themselves to be anything but what they portray themselves as they open themselves to acute criticism of their hypocrisy. The my $hit doesn't stink act is the conservative republican campaign shtick, plank and platform, not the liberals or democrats, but obviously it really does stink, it fact it smells like Crapo to an ever growing percentage of the electorate.

Sounds like JD has Obama and Bush, JR mixed up since all that about doper and drunk and sex applies to the "gifted" son who gave us 2 wars all on the Federal Credit Card.

Ms Sanity

So,.......... You are saying,.......... the Communist Newspaper itself,.....................The book The President wrote Himself,................. and the Mother of his Boyfriend Herself,................... are not believable sources?????.........................I see.What else from this administration or its supporters should We not believe?

Davey Boy

and to think, Mr. Bush along with all the previous Presidents combined, could not match the debt run up by this one President in four years, with four years still to go! (read the man's book!, sheesh!!!!)

Stupid twit. Doesn't he know that if he claims he's on his way to a vote in the Senate, they'll give him a ride home and call a tow truck for his car? Or does that only apply when a Kennedy does it and actually does have an accident?

If you are going to throw a republican out for a DUI, than all the democrats who have been caught ought to be thrown out too. The last count I had that is quite a few more democrats.

You cannot have one standard for yourselves and another for others.

This Craphead looks like a Drunk, what was that Pig doing in the back seat ????????????

Why not believe your eyes JD, you see a man that taught and promoted the Constitution as a law professor, he sure as hell did not teach communism. Why imply that the man had a boyfriend when what you see is a man who has been happily married for quite some time and is raising two beautiful children. Why imply he wants to destroy the US when he has collected the heads of our enemies with no reservations, even going into a sovereign country to get Bin Laden without their prior knowledge or permission. Frankly you fall into the category of birthers and other conspiracy theorists, which makes your party look foolish, and renders them more irrelevant to the general electorate by the day. Now I am pretty sure you will just continue to tell me why I should believe you and not my lying eyes.

J.D. - NO, I DON'T believe anyone cites the Communist Newspaper as a credible source. The book his mother wrote DOES NOT say what you posted. Neither does the book he wrote if you bothered to read either - which you clearly haven't. None of what you claim is true. Again, your post is total LIES!

The President has NEVER HAD a "boyfriend," the way your post implies. You are a true Republican - lower than anyone should ever stoop!

This administration is heads above the last one as far as truth goes. And, that's your real problem isn't it?

"The Repubs lead 44 to 18 in the Congressional DUI stories from the past 4 years." credit to davey boy.

I believe he is correct.

In any event, in my industry and many others you are barred from working on many sites if you have been convicted of a DUI or anything else. How many people have had to pee in a cup and be subjected to random drug and alcohol tests as a condition of employment, why should the leaders of the nation and and other so called captains of industry be exempt from the very rules they impose on others.

Sorry Forest...Wrong is wrong is wrong..No matter how you spin it. THAT is where the $hit doesn't stink comes from. You justify YOUR wrongs all the while ripping others for theirs...And you still can't see the hypocrisy in that which is a sad state of affairs in where you actually vote.....I vote the person not the party...

Sanity I take it you've read BOTH books?? Really?? Both of them.....

And a lying administration is a lying administration...There are no degrees of it...But you keep telling yourself that....

Rob68 - No but I'm not stupid enough to believe J.D. who hasn't read either book. And, he has YET to quote a CREDIBLE source. I've read President Obama's book and it doesn't state anything J.D. says. He has NOTHING to back up his lies but you'll jump on them because you dislike the President. How totally pathetic!

Like the name says.

How could we expect any different.

Conservatives OPENLY ADMIT that they are of the LOWEST MORAL CALIBER possible

each and every time they are CAUGHT when they point out that....

"It is no worse that what LIBERALS have done in the past"

by ADMITTING that they are NO BETTER than the GODLESS liberals .

Their automatic fall back position is WE ARE THE SAME AS YOU ARE....!

which flies in the face of "We are BETTER than liberals, we have GOD on OUR SIDE...."

It's not hypocritical...... it's outright LYING to save face .

A Mormon from Idaho Falls, Idaho, he has five children with his wife, Susan.

Mormons are the worst drunks.

Pigotry: My God, woman, you have nothing to say yet you take up so much space saying it. Give us a break from your sophomoric comments.

So sanity you will profess he is wrong having never read the books....Ok..I get it...As far as me "jumping on lies" go back though my posts and find out where I've ever sided with birthers/conspiracy theorists etc...I'll stop you from wasting your time...I haven't..I dislike the President because he sucks at his job...I didn't like Bush his second term....Or Clinton his second term, or Reagan in his either....And see that is what differentiates me from you...I'm not blinded by the bull$hit....You are the worst type of hypocrite...

Where is it written that a drinker cannot also condemn drinking? Does a person always have to think that everything he does is the right thing to do? I would suggest that every drunk driver in the world (especially those who get caught) would proclaim drunk driving wrong. And would legislate against it. And quite often still commit the act. It doesn't mean they are wrong to proclaim their beliefs; it means they are fallible.

I will challenge you Rob68 to find any post of mine where I tried to justify a wrong, I ripped Anthony Wiener a new one, and immediately called for his resignation on this blog. It is true enough I rip republicans with particular glee, and I explained why above. I used to vote the person, but that is now long ago, because their are virtually no persons of integrity left in the republican party, as a whole not a single one of them stood up to their leadership on their deployment of the Waterloo strategy, and the number one stated priority of the party to simply make sure Obama was a one term president. They put politics and the next election above their Oath of Office, and the good of the nation. The very same people that said it was unpatriotic to publicly criticize Bush because he was a wartime president and doing so would embolden our enemies and put American lives in danger. What the hell happened to that train of thought right after Obama was elected. They don't have any individuals who will stand up to Norquist, they put a pledge to him above their Oath of Office to represent the will and good of the nation. They have no individuals that will stand up to birthers, to flat earthers, the NRA, the Tea Party, the Church, and so on and on, so you bet your ass I now punish all republicans at every level of government and vote straight democratic and will continue to do so until they straighten up and fly right. The republican party as it now is does not represent my views, or interests so why should I vote for any individual republican who will just fall in line with the party and add to the number of people in positions of power that disregard my interests. One last thing, I want to make this clear, it was not the democratic party that led me to be a straight democratic voter, it was the Republican party that changed me into a straight ticket voter.

Forest

Nope Forest,(interesting moniker by the way), I don't try to" tell" anyone anything, I provide information and the sources where I found it and let them research and make their own conclusions. Oh,on your list, You forgot to mention Mr. Obama promising to cut the deficit in half, or being the most transparent administration in history, or unemployment never going above eight percent, and just to be accurate, He was not a Professor, He was a lecturer,( and sure as hell taught the Alinsky techniques of community organizing), also I "saw" with my own eyes the radicals and Communist that were and still are working for this Administration,and think real hard now, haven't You "seen" numerous politicians who have been "pictured" as happily married with families who have been found to be otherwise. As for destroying the nation, He also sure as hell taught the radicals, Cloward and Piven technique of destroying a country's capitalist economy, by adding unsustainable debt through massive spending until it collapses upon itself and a spiffy new socialist order could then arise from the ashes,but I guess You will only really be satisfied when You "see" it for Yourself. So as long as we are categorizing, I will have to lump You in with the various groups of greed driven Obama Zombies, (You know what a Zombie is I am sure, a mindless, souless creature that has the appearance of human form but otherwise, is totally incapable of independent thought, and exists only to follow its instinct, to attack, feed on, and destroy the living and productive whenever and where ever it "sees" them).

"I made a mistake for which I apologize to my family, my Idaho constituents and any others who have put their trust in me," he said. "I accept total responsibility and will deal with whatever penalty comes my way in this matter. I will also undertake measures to ensure that this circumstance is never repeated." ...he has built a reputation as a staunch social ... conservative."

Anyone want to bet he released that statement before he talked to his lawyers, probably even while he was still drunk.

This is one of those RWNJs who believes he's so superior to the rest of us that he's qualified to be everybody's judge, and his way of life ought to be "written into law" to the point where we are ALL supposed live just like him or be ridiculed.

Then it turns out, the guy isn't even competent enough to call himself a cab.

TO: Rick Crabtree who wrote:

"Where is it written that a drinker cannot also condemn drinking?..."

Sure they can do things that they also condemn, just like former Idaho Republican Senator Larry Craig who vehimently condemned homosexuality at the same time that he himself was a homosexual and got caught trying to engage in homosexual activity in the men's room at the airport, where the cops busted him.

We have a word for that, it's called being a hypocrit.

Cloward and Piven? Aren't those the guys who used to sell that wine cooler?

Yes the president promised some things, he had an agenda, he had some goals, and the American electorate was on board with his ideas he won that election in a landslide. The republicans decided to make his demise their number one priority they block revenue which would cut the deficit, they block jobs bills that would put people to work and allow them to pay taxes instead of depending on unemployment. The money is spent anyway but republicans won't allow it to be spent on infrastructure that would simultaneously cut welfare and grow the economy, at all costs they intended on depriving the president of any success on his agenda, problem is while they deprived him of any progress they also deprived themselves of any progress and hence lost the Oval Office, lost seats in the senate and the house. You see the majority of the nation believes the presidents unfulfilled promises are more the fault of the republicans in Congress than his. As far as my being a Zombie who only exists only to follow its instinct, to attack, feed on, and destroy the living and productive whenever and where ever it "sees" them, I must disagree. I have been a union member, who worked day in and day out to make my living and a nice profit for the owners. I am a patented inventor and was for a long time the owner of a small consulting business based on my patents and unique contributions and innovations to my industry. I have been a representative of my union who helped negotiate on their behalf, and worked hard to see to it that the people who produce the product that all profits originate from, were not destroyed, but had a safe workplace and enjoyed a fair slice of the profits their labor produced. Now I enjoy a management position where I travel around the country and abroad, to supervise projects to insure that they are profitable for my company, that the labor is performed professionally, and that they (labor) are treated and paid as such, and that the customer is delivered a first class product for his money. I have a long personal history of not being considered a Zombie just out there "to attack, feed on, and destroy the living and productive whenever and where ever it "sees" them" by either side of the coin, labor or management. The positions I have held, and continue to hold, my income, and my status in my industry with both labor and management will attest to that JD.

Apparently "jd" doesn't realize that the article being commented on is about a Republican Mormon from Idaho getting a DUI. Barfing the usual nazi propaganda, "jd" just doesn't get that commenting so far off topic makes one look completely incapable of logical reasoning...not to mention the blatantly ignorant, excessively paranoid subject matter that "jd" is pretending the article is about.

Is it any wonder that normal, well adjusted humans with a sense of morality and decency consider teabaggers retarded and psychotic???

Where are the holier that thou teabaggers screeching for Crapo's resignation?? We all know that if this had occurred to a Democtratic Senator, "jd" and his/her "special friend" "rob" would be donning their hoods and leading the lynch mob.

For Christmas, would you crying, helpless little teabaggers find one, just one (if y'all can count that high) person with half a brain cell to represent your position on issues??? The rest of you can then free your time to go play in a manure pile...Wouldn't that be fun for you???

Forest

Feigning ignorance of Cloward and Piven does not become such an obviously well educated man such as Yourself ,and I am sure You also know the Democrats had complete control of Washington for the first two years of the Obama Administration and could not have possibly stopped anything the President really wanted passed as evidenced by the disatrous health care bill, and the late night pillaging of the treasury by the Dems, that occurred in the early days of the Administration with absolutely nothing to show for over a trillion dollars of loss in one night! You sound like you have worked hard during Your career, but I must ask, What has the Unions done for the American Auto Industry lately,except priced it out of existence,leaving Detroit and the rest of the rust belt in their wake, with the only viable remnants being those manufacturers in right to work states,(that's why an increasing number of states are moving in that direction), Unions had their place and time, but that has passed. When it gets to the point that unions will stand by after years of having demands met time and again by a company,an American icon, but then stand by and watch that company have to dissolve itself,throwing thousands out of work because the union won't stop its feeding frenzy, and to meet further unions demands would destroy it anyway,that seems pretty zombie like to me.

@Barbara Adams Jackson

Sure Ted Kennedy paid for his mistake. HOW??????? He didn't spend a day in jail. He actually should have been charged with negligent homicide, leaving the scene, cover up of the death, and I'm sure a few others. I don't condone what Mike Crapo did. However, for you to poo poo this off as "it was 30 years ago, is complete horseapples, and its obvious that you and anyone else who did defend Kennedy then or now is eating them also. KENNEDY WAS AND IS A FELON WHO SCREWED OVER EVERY PERSON WHO'S BEEN CHARGED WITH A DUI, AS HE GOT AWAY WITH MURDER

Shocked and disgusting

I am sure You would like me to stick to Your party's line of never passing up an opportunity to slam Republicans and stick to that alone, but I like to expand the conversation,to encompass and address the articles actual cynical intent,(and that makes you sooooooo mad doesn't it?), for as You can see, if You go back and read , the thread quickly degenerated into a general attack on all things Republican, culminating in your oh so highly intelligent and well thought out post, but thanks a" heap" for playing.

It's pronounced (Kray-poh) huh?.............Not anymore Mr. CRAP-O....

I know it's a big word, "jd"...but deflection is deflection...

Sorry you got caught, but let's face the facts, here. You are not very clever.

Ms Sanity

From Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, 1996.

"I drank heavilly and tried drugs enthusiastically"

"Junkie, Pothead, That's where I'd been headed, the final, fatal role of the young would be black man."

"Pot had helped, and booze, maybe a little blow when you could afford it"

Not enough for you? read on.

According to the Chicago Tribune in 2007 , Obama thanked his "Choom Gang" in his high school yearbook, (chooming being Hawaiian slang for smoking pot).

and thaaaaats not all folks!

Larry Sinclair , a registered Democrat from Minnesota has made claims that he used cocaine and had homosexual sex with Obama,"I didn't want the sex thing to come out but I think it's important for the candidate to be honest about his drug use as late as 1999".

More on Obama's gay relationships.

In late May,(2010), Washington D.C. based investigative journalist, Wayne Madsen, wrote a bombshell article, (buried of course by the MSM), concerning Obama's membership in a Chicago Gay men's club called Man's Country.

He also reported the following Homosexual relationships:

Donald Young- the openly Gay Choir Director of Obama's Church in Chicago for twenty years as confirmed by Larry Sinclair.

There were also two openly Gay Men in Obama's Church, Larry Bland and Nate Spencer.

In late 2007 as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party's Nominee , in the space of one and one half. months all three men were dead.

Bland was murdered execution style on Nov 17,2007.

Young was murdered execution style on Dec 24, 2007.

Spence reportedly died from AIDS on Dec 26, 2007.

Norma Jean Young the seventy-six year old mother of Donald Young and a former employee of the Chicago Police revealed to the Globe that her son and Obama had been "close friends", and it was her belief that there was more to the story, and the Chicago Police were shielding or protecting ,"someone."

If You want, read the entire story online, "Obama's Gay past being hidden by Killing Ex Lovers, Jan 17, 2012.

A drunk Mormon, whats new?.... I have an ex brother in law who is a retired Las Vegas bank president and is a Mormon who drank his brunch, lunch and dinner to the point my sister divorced him.....Once we had a family reunion at his 3 story 3,800 sq. ft., 3 car garage vacation cabin near Cedar city Utah. While there, he took me over to one of his bank executive colleagues modest 4,500 sq. foot vacation cabin and introduced me to several of his Mormon friends who all had classes of scotch in their hands, they offered me a drink, but I had never acquired the taste for scotch so I settled for a glass of 7up. My ex brother-in-law is also a big Latte drinker which Mormons are supposed to frown on also.

I guess it just goes to show, Mormons are no different than the Catholic or Evangelical Taliban who are driven by "Do as I say, not as I do" philosophy.

"jd"...

Still completely irrelevant...but you sure do have a rich fantasy life in regards to President Obama having sex with other men. I can't blame you - he is a pretty good looking man, but, really...Airing your dirty psychological laundry in public as opposed to seeing a therapist is a bit tacky...for those of us whose mother's raised us right.

Tacky AND irrelevant. How nice....

Well Thank you for that JD, I have worked hard and continue to work hard at what I do, well at least in management if the work is not as hard I still put in a lot of hours when I am on site. Unions have not priced the American auto industry out of existence. At the GM plant where they make the full size vans there is van coming off the assembly line every 54 seconds, with automation since the late seventies and ever expanding in scope human labor is less a factor of the price of a car than it has ever been. Let me give you an example by way of wages and prices. When auto workers made $8.00 an hour you could buy a new car for about $2,500, an auto worker could buy the car he was building for 7.8 weeks worth of wages. Now auto workers make about 35.00 an hour and the cars coat about 30,000 now it take 21.4 weeks worth of wages to buy that car. Mismanagement is a big factor that caused the American auto industry to decline, other countries slapping taxes and tariffs on our products, and a whole host of interconnected and complicated factors but I assure even though it is convenient to blame it on unions negotiating a fair wage and benefits in exchange for a lifetime of work in a factory it is simply not the reason, it isn't even a major factor. They build BMW's here in the states with cheap non union labor, did they lower the price of those cars, are other foreign companies that build here selling their cars at half the price of American brands, you know they are not. If you are talking about Hostess in referring to an American Icon, the unions there all took two separate rounds of concessions, the company filed for bankruptcy was sold and the new owners mismanaged it into bankruptcy again, the people that produced the product that brought all the money in the door had the least to do with that fiasco. This last time the Bakers union had not had contractual payments to their pension fund in over a year, they had no choice but to strike they were not getting paid anyway. You note that none of that stopped management from petitioning the judge for their bonus checks even as everyone else got stiffed. Unions have not outlived their place and time, not in a country where in the last thirty years executive compensation has soared and earning power of workers has steadily declined. The average pay of a CEO in this country is 14 million a year and that is just salary, it does not even count bonuses or stock options, while worker productivity has increased but their earning power decreased. We recently at non union sites buried 29 men alive in a Massey energy mine, we vaporized 11 men on a non union BP oil rig and that list goes on. My union served me well and I tried to serve it well, and my membership in that union and participation in a collective bargaining agreement is the only reason I had the income and more importantly the security of health insurance and a pension fund for my family so that I could risk what was a considerable sum of money pursuing my innovations and patents for them, and then consequently my small consulting business. If you make 12 bucks an hour with no benefits you might have great ideas but you are not in a position to be able to pursue them. I have supported a stay at home wife and raised a family, we never had to depend on the government or charity to pay any medical bills, even though my wife is a cancer survivor and has developed type 2 diabetes, I have had heart surgery and also survived a bout with cancer, when I finally retire or drop dead my wife will be a fairly well off widow and will not depend solely on medicare and social security, and more than anything that is the result of defined contributions to my personal retirement fund negotiated in the collective bargaining agreements I worked many years under. The owners that I negouaited with would never agree to anything they could not afford, they are great businessman that provide the low bid to their customers to get the job, and they make themselves a nice profit while paying the people who produce those profits a fair slice of that pie. I have great respect for both those employers and the union they bargined with, if that kind of relationship has truly outlived itself in America then we are in deep, deep trouble.

Wow...I just realized that "jd" was quoting the "Globe" as a reference.

Tune in next week when "jd" rambles on about the First Lady giving birth to a two-headed, half white pig in a secret Kenyan hospital after being abducted by aliens that secretly rode back on a Mars probe...

"jd"...I take back what I said about deflection. Deflection would require more than your one brain cell to accomplish. You are, however, even more tacky and irrelevant than I had before realized.

The Globe......Wow...

This from a guy relying on MSNBC for his talking points! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!, So,tell me now, does that make those Gay men "Friends" of Mr Obama's any less dead or is that just a figment of their imagination?HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! or,or, is Mr. Obama any less of a doper alcoholic as admitted in his OWN book!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!,or any less of a Communist as reported in the Socialist for America"s OWN newspaper with photos no less?HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! but of course they ALL be lying to you!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! but don't You worry now,Just like Barack, the Dems and MSNBC told You, unemployment will never go above eight percent, the economy is doing fine, sixteen trillion dollars of debt will be corrected by INCREASING spending and raising taxes on the top 2%, which will fund the Government for almost a whole week!because taxing them rich is the fix for everthing!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!Nobody can put nothing over on you CUZ You be SOOOOOOO Samart!!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!Stop it!stop it! I can't breathe! HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! OK! OK! How About this One?OBAMA Care will lower Health care costs even though You geniuses have never stopped to even consider that the Law just says You have to pay whatever they tell You to pay, but never says what" health care" you'll be getting for Your money!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!, in the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a Maroon!!!!!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!I can't stand it!!!!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA! Want energy? here, have a slice of wind and a glass of sunshine! It'll only cost You billions, that is before Obama's Pals go bankrupt and stick You with the bill!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!FOREWARD!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!

Wow Forest....Anthony Weiner is all you have in refgards to your bit*hing and moaning about wrong-doing from the left....Move along....Nothing to see here...

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Same to you Beverly...Whether or not I agree with the people on here, Democrat, Republican hope you all stay safe....

Crap O,

How will you explain this to your cult members and church elders?

Not reallly a REpublican or Democrat isssue here, though it is interesting to see rom-chippped Righties trot out the old CLinton/Lewinsky chestnut. I thought the REpublicans has taken enough of a hit as a result of their over the top reacion to that piece of tomfoolery. I guesss it's a knee-jerk reacion (without the knee.)

Okie 54,

You are a fine one to talk about others hate!

Wow!!!! THEre's even a Chappaquiddick nut on the board. WHen I was in High Schoool I went out with a girl who's father cornered me in his den and went over the Mary Jo Kopechne incident over and over again. SHe was a goood girlfreiend - or i WOULD HAVE TOLD THE OLD FART TO take a flying leap at himself so I Politely listeneded to his moronic drivel.

Thousands of children and teachers are murdered every year by users of this evil product. They are slaughtered on their way to and from school everyday !! Its now time to have stricter regulations if not a full on ban for this evil product. No one has to have alcohol! We need a 5 day waiting period and back ground checks . We need to limit beer to 3 packs and limit all bottles and cans to no more than 1 once. We need to limit the KEG party and women drink free loopholes too.

NevadaJ, your two examples are not apples to apples. This is a senator elected by the entire state. Your examples are elected only by a small population of the state (those stupid enough in their small districts to elect them and no one willing to run against them.)

LOL Rob finds it really hard to believe that someone can read TWO, count them TWO entire books. I mean who can take in that much in one life time! Explains a lot about why Rob is lacking.

bobyoung-1427396: This country has been there and done that, and it didn't work. You can't legislate morality.

Yes Shellie...People read many books...But you can't speak about something you haven't read...I mean I've never read Mein Kampf so I really can't tell what it's like to hate others as much as Hitler did...I'm guessing you can?