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VIDEO: First Read Minute: Fiscal cliff is now about P.R. and not negotiating
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I'm not sure who this PR campaign is aimed at?
A vast majority of Americans are disgusted with the way Otis and his minions are conducting themselves!
As I mentioned under FT's, it well past time for the showboating!
We couldn't stand "Congress-Critters Behaving Badly" the first time it aired, we sure as hell don't want to watch a rerun!!
Merry Cliff-mas to GOP;
Merry Christmas to Feisty Red and the rest. But since we will be forced by the GOPee to jump into a cliff, we are runined.
It seems that original thoughts and programming are totally foreign to the House. (Maybe they get their ideas from the Bravo channel? How many "real" housewives are there?)
Funny how people vote for the Congress based on their statements of change and moving forward and yet it's just the SOS different day . . .
If it's all about P.R., Cantor just upstaged Boehner and let everybody who's in charge over at the House, and it ain't John Boehner!
WE the people voted to re-elect Barack Obama, and an overwhelming majority of voters---even those who voted for Romney-- want tax rates to go up on the top 2 percent.
Do not cave, Mr. President! We will deal decisively with the obstructionist Tea Baggers when they come up for re-election.
Boehner is a lily-livered coward who can't stand up to the loons in his own party. He needs to go as well.
Even the people of Ohio are tiring of Boehner. If he continues this ignorance, his days as a member of the House will be numbered - thank heaven! Cantor is about to seal his fate too. The vast majority of Americans have indicated they want a tax increase on those making over $250,000 - and the President was willing to go to $400,000. The GOP again - obstruts. They apparently aren't capable of learning!
Speaker Boehner, take the deal from the President because that is the best you will get. The President has said NO to plan B and that's the way it will be. Mr. Speaker, show America that you still have an ounce of self respect left, and that you aren't a total failure for the job you hold.
Remember, if we go off the cliff, the public will blame the Republicans-Tea Baggers for not working with the President.
Damage to our children's futures continues. Republican political dysfunction is the root.
Hey!
Look at all the loons! They found their way back to FR after mysteriously disappearing yesterday following the story about the Benghazi resignations.
You all were conspicuously absent yesterday... it was pretty funny! :-)
SeekingSanity -- Unfortunately voters tend to re-elect the incumbent (and why in SC the retirement happened now so that Haley could appointment someone who will have not only some name recognition, but appear to have experience). We saw low approval of Michele Bachmann, Paul Ryan, now Rick Scott. Bachmann and Ryan were reelected, so how to rid ourselves of others like Cantor or even Boehner?
The 2010 mid-term and gerrymandering after the census resulted because liberals did not get out the vote. The only silver lining is now douchebags like Cantor may be "primaried" from the far-Right. Hopefully it will produce another Todd Akin. But in some states (like Arizona), pandering to the crazy Birthers worked. Progressives have to get out the vote in mid-terms -- We have to work hard for 2014.
PLAN B - "...while TWO (2) MILLION Americans would lose unemployment insurance", on December 29th, 2012.
Through no fault of their own, I know of 2 million Americans and their families, (now read 6-8 MILLION Americans effected), who will not be having a "Merry Christmas" if this gets passed as advertised.
Go ahead!! Off the cliff. Automatic defense cuts kick in,.....and then Congress ought to throw in a couple trillion dollars of additional cuts to that parasitic industry before this country goes belly up.
PR for whom? Grover Norquist and his anti-tax minions. The polls prove that the American people will blame republicans for going over the cliff, will blame them for protecting the wealthiest 2% rather than pass the Senate bill (passed in July 2012) that extends the tax cuts for 98% of Americans.
Cantor's out there blaming President Obama for "the largest tax increase ever" ignoring the fact that the House GOPers can't find their way out of a paper bag with a flashlight. Therefore, it is Boehner, Cantor and his crowd that will be responsible for the largest tax increase and they will be held responsible for failing to do what the majority of voters demanded with their votes on Nov 6.
Hey!
Sick of the bickering, I was here.
rocky - most of us were. Sick apparently has trouble focusing.
OF COURSE it's now about PR rather than negotiating. The reason is encapsulated in today's FT headline "Is Boehner Walking Away -- Again?" That's what he does. That's what he's done since January 2009. It's the entire reason nothing is getting done. At the root of it is the fundamental problem with Conservatism. ALL of Conservatism is actually just a PR campaign selling policies beneficial to the wealthy elites.
apparently Boehner is trying to give McConnell a run for his money as the most detested elected official in Congress.
RedDev - and Cantor is right up there with the two of them. It's going to be a three-way finish!
Haha, RedDev... that's a tough call.
Most detested and least effective.
TruePatriot:
My hero of the day. We have to remember 2010.
The old "Definition of insanity" comes to mind again... In what freaking bizarro world do these idiots live? Boehner is just a mobile concubine.
Anyone that can stay behind this moving paint-ball target of a GOP party is officially too ignorant to have standing in ANY political conversation.
They want to define their own half-can of "Con-promise" and expect to kick half the problem down the road thinking any actual Americans are buying the attempt to blame-shift? These ignoramii are as stupid as their followers. (who will of course respond with something like "yeah, stupid like a fox")
Feisty - Is your daughter home yet? I know you CAN'T wait to see her!
Boehner offered increased taxes only for those making $1M or more; then President Obama countered with increased taxes on those making $400K or more and $850B in spending cuts over 10 years ($85B per year), and CPI changes. From the reports I've seen and heard, increasing income taxes on $250K or more would have added about $80B in revenues per year with $85B per year in spending cuts. Increasing taxes on $400K or more would be about $65B per year revenues plus $85B in spending cuts.
This is where the rubber meets the road and GOPers defy logic. Boehner and the GOP said NO. Instead the GOP opts for Plan B which has ZERO spending cuts, no entitlement compromises and raises taxes on those making $1M or more. The difference between $65B and $80B is $15B. So to save the wealthy $15B in taxes, Boehner and the GOP turn down $85B in spending cuts. In other words, Boehner and the GOP are raising taxes without getting anything in return.
Even more ridiculous was Grover Norquist claiming that Plan B isn't a tax hike??!!! If taxes go up on those making $1M or more, it's a tax hike no matter how one tries to sell it.
As Bill Clinton pointed out, the Republicans have a big problem in their arithmetic skills.
By the way, Sick, a lot of right wingers went missing for weeks after Nov 6. Where's NoJoe, JS1, Fairfax Bill, Bob in VA, Spanky, etc etc etc? Haven't seen them since Nov 6. In fact, the only time many of the regulars like you show up is if there's a conservative APB alert that FR put up something mentioning guns, Benghazi or some other issue right wingers are drawn to like flies to honey.
Jody, Iowa -- Agreed, it is about the MATH not ideology.
But ignorant people who can't figure out the most basic things will continue to parrot stupid squawking points like how it's about spending and not revenue, or how taxing the rich won't completely reduce the deficit and therefore throw the baby out with the bath water.
We need revenues at 20% of GDP, at least -- We are far below that percent. The Rule of Reason left the Republican Party more than a decade ago, and therein lies the real problem.
Only one correction -- drawn like flies to sh!t.
Jody - wasn't it Bill or Bob in VA that promised to disappear for 6 months if Obama carried Virginia?
SotB, they're here, they just show up later in the evening where they have their beavis and butthead peanut gallery, pulling eachother's fingers and laughing...Right MICKEY LMAO @ YOU
{show us the Wiki Miki}
Hi SS,
It was VP Bob that I had a bet with. The bet stated that I would not post for 6 months if Romney won VA. And VP Bob would do the same if Obama won.
[Right MICKEY LMAO @ YOU {show us the Wiki Miki}]
Gee, why didn't I think that you were sincere...so what's it going to be, caesar...your call, ball's in your court.
i guess i was forced to presume your silence was a no go. any other time your quick to ride my leg.
Seeking,
Yeah! She got in last night (early I might add)! She's spending the night down in the city today with friends...
It's sooooo nice having her home! ☺
[i guess i was forced to presume your silence was a no go. any other time your quick to ride my leg.]
Apology accepted...
Oh:
...you're quick...
Nice avatar...self portrait? ;)
[It's sooooo nice having her home!]
Good for you Feisty...enjoy Christmas with your family. Mine aren't going to make it this year, but we will see them for Easter.
Thanks Mickey!
I get 3 whole weeks for some serious mother/daughter bonding time.
Sorry to hear your family won't be able to make it! Enjoy Christmas with your lovely wife!
its peewit (peewee), i thought it was fitting
you're, your, im not typing a thesis here. im lazy with spelling.
[its peewit (peewee)...]
I have no idea who that is...
[...i thought it was fitting]
For you?
[you're, your, im not typing a thesis here. im lazy with spelling.]
Sorry, one of my pet peeves...although I do sometimes make mistakes myself. I was just humping your leg. ;)
Obama just isn't satisfied unless those making now $400K to $1mm pay. Seems a shame that he would let an opportunity to tax those "evil" Koch brothers (who surely make more than $1mm/year) slip through his greedy fingers...and I'm sure the American people wouldn't feel too good about missing an opportunity like that either...
smurfs and my pet name for you...like little seizure get it?
answered above
i was letting you get it out of your system
PS, it's not is. hate to get your peeves all ruffled
[smurfs and my pet name for you...like pizza pizza get it?]
I do now...
...what just happened here...
59 million Americans are sick and tired of obama bull sheissen
GOP need to wake up to face the reality that voters rejected them in November, defeating Mitt, cutting GOP majority in the House, increasing Dem majority in the Senate.
GOP...time to vote for Plan O (Obama's plan that was endorsed by We The People).
The problem is that the GOP doesn't care what the voters think. Their approval rating is in the toilet, so the only group they can still please are their rich donors, otherwise they will end up with no one on their side. Paul Krugman recapped the situation concisely in the December 13th Times and warns things will get scarier. After all, there's nothing more dangerous than a group of frustrated and desperate Type A's with no moral compasses. I see increasing obstructionism, even if that seems totally illogical to the rest of us.
You're foolish to think the GOP is not awake. The GOP in the House is fully aware of the wishes of the people that elected them. Each is elected, as was the President.
Sorry to say I think you're right Irving. The folks who bankroll the Conservative Movement KNOW that demographics are against them. They KNOW people are getting wise to their lying. They KNOW their preferred policies are wildly unpopular.
Faced with that and an attitude of entitlement democracy no longer means anything to them. They're all about power. If democracy delivers that then they're all about it. If subverting democracy delivers it that'll work too.
scott, each represent ALL the constituents in their respective districts and states; they do NOT just represent the republicans. They are elected to work toward the middle, find common ground and, yes, to respect the will of the majority of voters which is quite clear in the polls. Democrats gained seats in the House plus overall democrats received more votes than did their republican counterparts. The only reason republicans did not lose more seats is gerrymandered redistricting done by GOP state legislatures and governors. That's not a liberal notion, it is backed by the facts.
Sure pigotry,Let's make this a one party nation.I know that is your ultimate socialists dream.If both sides had been serious in the 1st place about negotiating,We would'nt have had to wait til the last til the last page of a thriller political novel.Just because the Democrats won the election does'nt mean we have to pass every proposal that Obama and his party cook up.Soon enough there will be a 3rd and moderate political party that will rise from the ashes of the extreme right and left parties.There will be a day that will happen.Some people are dead tired of all the ranting and raving of extreme politics.
We have two parties, it's just that one of them is bat-crazy. Until the voters sufficiently marginalize the GOPTP to make them exorcise the bat-crazy fringe which now rules the party there's no point in even attempting to compromise with them...they won't have it.
Fire them all. They are unfit to hold office . They haven't accomplished anything and it appears as though that is going to continue. If they worked in the private sector they would have gotten their pink slip a long time ago!!!
Mark . . .
No kidding! To get that pay and benefits for doing NOTHING - amazing. The rest of us actually know how to work. How do these "do nothings" keep getting elected??????
The crazed TeaPeople in Congress voted for the "Budget Control Act".....now, they try to distance themselves from it!...How soon they forget, or think that "we the people" forget!
The rates will expire, rates will go up!
Firing ALL the politicians in both parties would be good.Get the lawyers and politicians out of there that could'nt balance a checkbook in the 1st place.It must be fun to spend other peoples money when you don't have to earn it.
It takes two to negotiate, but it seems like the campaigner is continually moving the target.
Perhaps the campaigner needs to go over the cliff to pay for progressive investments. Had to invest when you are borrowing money at record levels.
hey, asymmetrical...you already got your 2..asymmetrical, though... Courtesy of GopIsExtinct
Pigotry... you are a PIG!
funnygirl... you are 100% correct! Dems NEVER intended to negotiate anything... their standard MO is to screem 'give us everything we want or else'. There was no intention by the libs for compromise.
Some things never change... HoR passes bills that go to Harry Reid and he refuses to bring them to the floor.
Hey, SickOfTheBickering
For once I agree with you. You are calling a spade a spade.
Just love trolling the "asymmetricals" you wish you had!
Harry Reid is sending the Senate home for the holidays with resumption of the Senate after the holidays. Doesn't seem like he's concerned about the cliff. Rather, it seems as if this is the Progressive plan - soar over the cliff to higher taxes, and blame it on the Republicans. Takes two to negotiate, and there is only the campaining President who needs the increased taxes to operate government. But he will blame it on the GOP, supported by the media.
A pair of "oinks" for the Pig.
that's funny 1dummygirl, since boehner can't get his own party members behind him. That's why he's been busting tea bag members of the gop party out of leadership positions.
As for senate closing, that would be coming from the conservative entertainment media. Just another attempt to deflect from the dysfunctioning congress.
1funnygirl......
When the POTUS speaks directly to the people he is leading, not campaigning. No doubt, the success the President has enjoyed annoys you. Best get used to it.
campdog - wasn't it Regan who spoke to the public constantly to get what he wanted? There are people who don't understand that - as the leader of the country - it is best to speak to the people. Communication is not a skill understood by some!
One of your biggest mistakes unfunnygirl is that you continually attempt to refer to Boehner as some sort of an equal, or even superior to, the President of our United States... It says a lot about you. And none of it is good.
Your denigration of the President for talking directly to the people "too much" is also quite telling.
Boehner is a cockroach and you are looking up to him.
chick binder - Boehner is a cockroach and you are looking up to him. Ouch!
because Obama is a Demigod right Prick Grinder? I guess it takes a 'better man' to say the buck stops THERE!
No, Barack Obama is the duly elected President of the United States, among other things commonly referred to as the leader of the Free World.
Boehner has amply demonstrated that he's incapable of even leading his own Caucus in one wing of the Congress.
see what you did funnygirl? you tried to make a comment that involved negotiations.Shame on you.Don't you know that the extreme left wingers posting on here believe that everything the democrats and Obama do is good and right?All you have done is manage to get yourself ATTACKED for not having the same opinion as they do.The Democrats are the real masters of non negotiable,Just look at their post as they attack and belittle you.
sure you want to open that can of worms
It's open...is that what trolls eat these days?
No, residents of of Des Moines, IA.
Good luck with that.
In the summer of 2011, Boehner walked away from a deal with more cuts, fewer tax increases and an increase in the eligibility age of Medicare to 67. Frankly I'm glad he did because the middle class would have had to pick up the tab for the tax cuts for the rich.
Now Boehner walks away from a deal allowing the Bush tax cuts to continue, a chained CPI for Social Security and other benefits and more cuts. While not as large a deal as the one he walked away fromt he first time, walking away did not net him a better offer.
To make this point that waling away again will not bring a better offer. President Obama needs to explicitly state that the $400 threshold for extending the Bush tax cuts and the chained CPI are off the table on 1-1-13 and he will offer the Republicans the opportunity to cut taxes on those who make less than $250K. Time to play some good old country hardball with these fools! Time to let them know we are finished negotiating with those who take the country and the economy hostage.
I've never seen a bigger PR disaster than this fiscal cliff fiasco. All the polls say President Obama looks like the only adult in the room...which begs the question, why don't House Republicans care they have lost the support of the American public? All I can think is, they don't work for US anymore, the House works for a few ultra-wealthy figures who operate in the shadows. It's really pretty scary.
PR stands for 'Pure Ruin'...for the GOPee.
With this perspective, it's not that hard to understand the gop
Pigotry is a national socialist but just won't admit it.They need more blind followers.Pig would support a 3rd term for Obama,perhaps even make it a lifetime post.
Amy Amy Amy. The republicans have only lost the support of 53% of the American public. 47% think they're doing fine, and perhaps should obstruct even more. Memories are short in politics. Perhaps their popularity will sink further. But perhaps not. In 2008 it was expected they were gone for decades. Yet is was only two years.
So they will play to their core, while realizing some of their core wish they'd get off the religious thing and enter the current milenium on social issues.
It is easy to see what is going on. Boehner meets with Obama and they hint at a deal. Everybody seems to think it all good, the stock market soars and Americans breath a sigh of relief. Then Boehner comes back, after talking to his minions with NO CAN DO. And we start all over again with posturing, grandstanding, meetings that may or may not be productive but the fiscal cliff is nearer and nearer. If we go off the cliff it will be because Boehner is a poor leader and couldn't get his minions to agree to what he had already negotiated with the White House. It is almost like watching slapstick comedy starring Boehner, Cantor and the Tee partiers. (Larry Moe Curley Joe)
Are we there yet?
The sooner we hit bottom after going off the cliff the better.
The fiscal cliff was driven off of a long time ago, were already in freefall just waiting to hit bottom...
Can not wait for the sudden stop, the screaming from the leaches will be loud enough to break glass when the Government has to stop their monthly sty-pens, lol...
Were borrowing 46 cents of every dollar we spend right now boys & girls ... how long can we keep that up?
/./././. crickets :0) jiffy pop
btw what will be the next catchy phrase or name for it when we have another perceived crisis to talk an listen to the lame stream lap dog media about ???
all this bovine excrement is boring let the govt raise taxes on everyboby let the spending cut go on as planned let the chip fall where they may......
What luke warm Has stated is right, if you remember correctly, in 2008 candidate Barack Obama projected his vision a bit and the words he stated went un heeded by many who decided to elect him anyway.
{We are going to fundamentally change america} "hope & change" "Yes we can"
When he said fundamentally change America, did anyone have an idea of how radical that change was going to be? If not, you should have been. Your next clue should have been when he stated, “We will change America, we will change the world” Arrogance? Maybe, but also someone with an agenda that does not include keeping America the way we know it. Or how about when he said, “We are not a Christian nation.” Did any of these statements not bother the American people and if it they did not, why?
America has become Numb and unfeeling to the reality of life. Many are living in fantasy of the moment ideology, Where you can spend all your money, and then spend someone else s money when it comes time to pay it back---> you don't have too, you just keep spending.
As long as, "If it feels good do it", anyway... Just one or two examples would be, first: "the anus" designed as a exit ONLY... However as time progresses it is glorified more and more ass a portal of pleasure. Completely ignoring its original function as exit only, Butt, If it feels good do it...
The same thing is applicable, to using Abortion as a form of Birth control... let's have sexual intercourse there is no accountability if you get pregnant and you do not want the consequences then abort it...
"IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
un protected sex " dont worry about disease or sickness "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Anal sex "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT" Driving a car at 120 mph in a school zone "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Flying a jet airliner into a building "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Killing a border agent "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Watching porn"IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Beating your wife "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Killing Yourself "IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT"
Culturally, We have side stepped our Original path, and have been in uncharted territory for some time now. As we progress further into the abyss of depravity the appalling in-differences we subject ourselves too will be starkly more and more shocking. However, 4ward -------->ho
"Get Used Too It"
convenientliesyoubelieve - these are definitely convenient LIES YOU believe because there is no word of truth to anything you have posted. NOT ONE SINGLE WORD!
When you make such an outrageous post you appear to be mentally impaired and you certainly appeal to no one because it is so absurd. Your post, at best, is demented. It is offensive in every respect but that was of course your intent. How disgusting. But, it shows you're a good little Republican.
Your post is just a reminder to all of us that Republicans can make NO rational argument for anything so they take the route of the absurd.
No discussion from SS - ole Clara knows best!
neverbeenfunnygirl - your post makes no sense but yours never do, do they?
Yay! Today's commentary is all about Butt Sex ... I await 1funnygal's take on KY jelly. 2funnygals is more fun tho!
Ask SS, she's the expert I bet.
but I bet you are the sexpert ... face it girl, convenientliesyoubelieve's post is ridiculous.
neverbeenfunnygirl - I've put up with your crude, classless, gutter trash comments for the last time. You are filth beyond description and my guess is your parents are embarrassed to claim you - if they do.
I had you on ignore and now you're back there. You are a disgrace to women everywhere - if you actually ARE a woman. I have never met such a lowlife. You are beyond reprehensible. But, a good Republican! Nothing but filth. Even the rats would stay away from you!
bcwc - my guess is she's not. No man who doesn't want to catch anything is going anywhere NEAR notsofunnypervert!
You guys need a remedial class on the ignore feature.
{show us the wiki miki}
To use a quote from Red - Bite me SS!
I really don't care what your opinion of me is. You my dear, are a liberal joke.
Now go away and get back to work. Does your company have a policy against trolling during working hours, or is you position as ficticious as your Duke education?
now that is a Fisty quote
{Wiki MIKI NOW}
convenientliesyoubelieve......Pst..... It's "to"...."Get used to it" not "Get used too it".
It's just that when you are going to really zing us Libtards you really want to do it in a way that doesn't make you appear to be uneducated or ill informed. It's not effective. It hard to feel the sting of an insult from an individual that appears to be stupid.
In short,going off the cliff is what's needed.
All temp.ax cuts should expire.All must share in the pain.
Short term pain,long term gain
Merry Cliff,ass
Moving along,,lmao
No pain no real gain
So when is "Bonehead Boehner" going to get serious about negotiating? He has made clear that he does not believe in 'compromising.' This word does not exist in his limited language skills. So how can "Bonehead Boehner" even want to negotiate? When he does not even want to 'compromise?' Everything that "Bonehead Boehner" has done so far is for PR purposes only. He is still very loyal to "Goofy Grover," and the Koch Brothers. The "Teabegger Congress" has continued to waste money, time, resources, and the trust of the American People. Again! The Party Of NO has got to GO!!
what you really mean is,when is he going to give in and just do what obama wants him to do?I have seen the way demorats negotiate.It's more like unconditional surrender.
As long as, "If it feels good do it", anyway... Just one or two examples would be, first: "the anus" designed as a exit ONLY... However as time progresses it is glorified more and more ass a portal of pleasure. Completely ignoring its original function as exit only, Butt, If it feels good do it...
this is the part that bothers you speaking insanity 4ward ho boi
convenientliesyoubelieve - your kind of sickness unfortunately can't be healed. You have a disgusting mind that is really sick and you flaunt it, thinking some poor mentally disturbed person will agree with you. You truly are a sad little man and your mental disentigration is obvious. You are probably too sick to realize you need help. Hopefully someone near you will insist on your getting physicological treatment. All you've done is to confirm that your sanity is non-existent.
As a sane woman, what others do in the privacy of their own bedrooms does not concern me. It is none of my business - but clearly you think YOU should control everyone.
The 'fire them all' mantra sounds strong and makes the utterer of the statement feel good, but it is an obviously uncritical (read 'stupid') remark.
There are many conscientious members of the House, but there are others who could stand to feel some pressure from their constituents. The ones who don't care about their constituents will not even risk being voted out of office for two years. So local and party pressure, and perhaps some positive inducements, to compromise frame the only real path forward.
Culturally, We have side stepped our Original path, and have been in uncharted territory for some time now. As we progress further into the abyss of depravity the appalling in-differences we subject ourselves too will be starkly more and more shocking. However, 4ward -------->ho
"Get Used Too It"
Hey convenientlies...
All present time is uncharted territory in the sense that new events can and do occur. You feel threatened by this existential fact. I largely do not.
Perhaps, you should re-evaluate the path forward.
Culturally, We have side stepped our Original path into the abyss of depravity
................... evil, good where are we? no one cares enough to make a difference
get used too it 4ward
You poor people, Dont you realize with King Obama there wont be another election.
jbonne - I'm never sure why people like you post such stupitidy. Everyone knows it is absurd and you end up looking like you have serious problems - like convenientliesyoubelieve. Why don't you try posting something that makse sense?
So, tell me where I'm wrong ss is the anus for exit only? or not? also has it been glorified as a portal of pleasure by many boys or not?
Sorry, if this is a sore or sensitive subject for you LOL
convenient - you are one sick person. And, you're now on ignore. My guess is you're an INTIMATE friend of notsofunnygirl - two of a kind!
I believe the nasty is you ,!, speaking insanity
jiffy pop
Sorry, if this is a sore or sensitive subject for you LOL
Oh my goodness, I believe I've acquired a troll! Keep showing that Duke education SS! That is, if you truely have one.
Never did answer my query: Does this company where you claim to have an important position, have a policy against using the computer during working hours for personal use? If it does, aren't you ripping off the company since you seem to be here continually?
Ah, the life of a libby.
I have been reading the history of Jim Crow laws in the U.S. It is disgusting what the conservatives have done and continue to try to do to this country.
Read this it isn't just the republicans 10:33 AM on 04/06/2011Below are excerpts from a Senate speech made by Senator Harry Reid on October 9, 1990. It is taken from the "Congressional Record."
"The discussion is are we as a country violating a trust by spending Social Security trust fund moneys for some purpose other than for which they were intended. The obvious answer is yes...I think that is a very good illustration of what I was talking about, embezzlement, thievery. Because that, Mr. President, is what we are talking about here...We have been stealing money from the Social Security recipients of this country." Unfortunately, Senator Reid abandoned his fight against the looting of Social Security and joined the rest of the pack. Today, he says Social Security is prefunded for the next 40 years. He should level with the American people, admit that the money has all been spent, and lead the effort to get the government to repay the stolen money. That $2.6 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue belongs to Social Security and to the American workers who made the contributions. We must demand that it be repaid
It does not matter what the govt. uses this money for as long as they repay the money with any interest that would have been earned. For example would the government come out better borrowing from S.S. rather than a foreign country? It does not matter as long as S.S. obligations are paid.
Stick to your guns Boehner ! Lets go over the cliff and get 2 million of Obama voters off extended unemployment benefits !
And end corporate welfare!
I want to go off the cliff,short term pain,will be everyone's long term gain
Merry Cliff Mass
Whine, when you can't refute
ignore, is likened to the ostrich syndrome, so good & great I can post with impunity from you all the better lol
I believe the nasty is you ,!, speaking insanity
jiffy pop
Sorry, if this is a sore or sensitive subject for you LOL
{We are going to fundamentally change america} "hope & change" "Yes we can"
When he said fundamentally change America, did anyone have an idea of how radical that change was going to be? If not, you should have been. Your next clue should have been when he stated, “We will change America, we will change the world” Arrogance? Maybe, but also someone with an agenda that does not include keeping America the way we know it. Or how about when he said, “We are not a Christian nation.” Did any of these statements not bother the American people and if it they did not, why?