The President spoke of congressionals "peeling off the partisan warpaint" for the good of our country. The election campaign has been over for about a month now.

We need to extend the middle class tax cut, create a strong foundation for economic growth, give certainty to businesses of all shapes and sizes, as well as address deficit reduction.

Americans want to take strong steps to prevent the chance of a Newtown ever happening again.

And not self-inflict wounds on our economy. The world's superpower cannot default on bills, or threaten not to pay its bills EVER AGAIN.

From your lips to God's and Obama's ears Backhouse!

FORWARD!

Pres Obama Job Approval: 54% / 38% [+16]
Congressional Approval: 18%
Debt ceiling negotiations Approval / Disapproval
Republicans: 17% / 69% [-52]
Pres Obama: 38% / 50% [-12]
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57559686-10391739/poll-50-percent-think-fiscal-cliff-deal-possible-by-years-end/?pageNum=2
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/159401/congress-approval-remains-during-fiscal-cliff-debate.aspx

The White House's opposition to a back-up plan to ensure taxes don't rise on American families is growing more bizarre and irrational by the day," Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said earlier Wednesday.

OMH! A back of plan of raising taxes on .5% of the country is a back-up plan that is irrational and biazarre? What she meant to say is as usual, stick to the Grover highway or no highway!

From the article above:

"I think an environment needs to be created within not just the House Republican caucus but also among Senate Republicans that say the campaign is over, and let's see if we can do what's right for the country. At least for the next month. And then, you know, we can reengage in all the other battles that they'll want to fight."

Courtesy of:

Inside the talks: Fiscal framework emerges
By: Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen
November 29, 2012 04:42 AM EST

Everyone has an opinion on the grand bargain. But only two matter: Obama's and Boehner's. Any deal will ultimately be hammered out between the two men, whose on-again, off-again relationship is stronger than most people realize.

A deal will get done.

To me, alot of the posturing between President Obama and Congressman Boehner is about setting the tone in the next year.

Boehner has alot more control over the House now, and will next year, than in the past two years.

I also believe alot of investors, businessman, and Government agencies are waiting until after this budget fight is over and for the first of the year before they loosen up on loans and other money.

I truely hope we see a surge in construction next year, and unemployment heading towards 5 - 6 percent as a start.

Salud

True Patriot,

I gotta side with edgarw in his objection to your post. I am a Republican and I deplore racism. Any objection I have ever had to Mr. Obama has nothing to do with the irrelevant factor of race.......oh wait a tick, I voted for him this year.

I started out on this thread to post my approval for the statement at the title of the article - "Take me out of it" is so appropriate as it seems the thrust of politics of late has been more about party image and sliming your opponent rather than focusing on what is good for the country, image and perhaps political career be damned, bravo Mr. Obama.

Real sick of the polarization myself. You just can't categorize everyone and maybe that is a reason to hope.

Hi TruePatriot.

Good to read your posts again.

Salud

Boehner's guy:

"The White House's opposition to a back-up plan to ensure taxes don't rise on American families is growing more bizarre and irrational by the day,"

Isn't there already a bill PASSED by the Senate that extended ALL of the Bush tax cuts to those making under $250K? How is this bizarre or irrational? THAT's Plan B to "ensure taxes don't rise"???

TruePatriot,

Don't make the mistake of saying the righty's problem is racism.

It may be for some of them, but that's not the point, and it gives them something to focus on denying. It's the policy they espouse that's important.

If you stick to that, you don't allow them to avoid discussion of it.

From reading these posts, it's no wonder this country is in such deep doodoo.

nomore, I hear your frustration but President Obama and democrats have offered spending cuts to republicans. What have republicans offered in return; what cuts have they proposed? None because they want President Obama to tell them what to cut. The GOP won't even concede that defense cuts are needed; all they want is to take it out of "entitlements". Both sides already agreed that taxes should not increase on those making less than $250K so where is the GOP compromise in that? Only tax increases on those making $1 million? I don't recall the specifics but Obama offered significant, targeted spending cuts. The republicans have not compromised by offering to extend tax cuts for 98%--they refuse to bring it to a vote; it passed the Senate in July.

Live on a budget. No more borrowing.

scott,

Ok … so for all of us no more
Credit Cards
Car Payments
Mortgages
If you can't pay cash then tough luck

Mark in SoCal, SmBusOwnerinNY --

I specified the exist polls in Arizona, a larger percent than nationwide:

Polls conducted in 2010 suggested that at least one quarter of adult Americans said that they doubted Obama's U.S. birth,^[8][9] while a May 2011 Gallup poll found that 13% of American adults (23% of Republicans) continued to express such doubts.^[10]

But we are all bigots, including myself no matter how hard one tries not to be. For example against Muslims, or gays, heck there are plenty of misogynistic in the GOP too, and who knows how many of those white males stayed home because Romney is a Mormon?

Most racists don't think they are racists, and if they are, they won't admit it in polls or otherwise. Nonetheless, I agree racism is by no means the sole problem with the far-Right who have hijacked the Republican Party (too many to list but not germane to this topic).

It is however a big reason for the unprecedented attacks on President Obama, even compared to the most recent Dem in the White House which was Bill Clinton. But no one ever questioned a POTUS's birth certificate until now, and there is one clear differentiating variable.

TomasGrande -- Salud!

True Patriot,

Just remember that if 23% of Republicans make said claim, 77% don't - and that is only a sample of the people polled. And really, Arizona -my apologies to that fine state - is not exactly a fair representation of the entire country.

Of course we are all bigots to some extent. That is what makes racial jokes so funny, and true racism so reprehensible.

Might I contend that voting for Mr. Obama simply because of race is just as racist as opposing him because of it? Perhaps not as inimical, but racist none the less. Better still we drop the whole stupid race thing - starting with the media and its obsession with racial categorizations.

I am pretty moderate but the profession I work in is largely of solid conservative sway and I would say some of the things I heard said about Mr. Clinton in the day rival anything I have heard of Mr. Obama. Admittedly, the whole birth certificate thing is perplexing. It seems so patently absurd I have paid little attention to it.

Rick-3416939,

You're statement is laughable and I'll tell you why. Republicans issued Coporate tax cuts for beneift to the rich without funding it in addition to two wars. As a result, our federal deficit for FY 2009 (July 2008- July 2009) was at $1.4 trillion (Bush left office in Jan 2009).

Obama has decreased spending from Medicare Advantage Savings of $716 billion eliminating waste/fraud, ending one war-winding down another, and by bringing future Coporate tax levels back to Clinton levels reversing the unfunded expenditure of Bush coporate tax cuts. In FY 2013 (July 2012- July 2013), our Federal deficit is at $901 billion. This is a total decrease of $499 billion compared to Bush levels of spending.

Republicans are laughable in how they determine debt. Federal deficit and US debt are TWO different things. The US debt of $16 trillion is all American citizen debt within the US to Creditors. This has nothing to do with US Gov't spending. The Consitution gives Gov't no authority to enforce limitations on citizens decision to purchase and owe from Creditors. It is the Federal deficit that determines Gov't spending. And Federal deficit levels reflect Republican policies far out spend Democratic policies. Just look at the numbers and weep. The Conservative claims of spending less than their opposition sales pitch is a fraud.And folks like you are either too stupid or fraudulent to admit it. But US spending.com admits it......

Boehner is stalling just to protect his job as Speaker - to hold the whole of the country up to ransom just for Boehner's vanity goes beyond TREASON. Perhaps he has forgotten that treason is a capital offense.

TO: JERSY GIRL 1 who wrote:

"From reading these posts, it's no wonder this country is in such deep doodoo."

If this country "is in deep doodoo" it's only because that's the way Republicans want it.

Republicans have done nothing but sabotaged our Economic Recovery because they know the entire world blames Republicans for destroying our economy in the first place, and Republicans can't stand the thought of Democrats, again, getting all the credit for repairing Republicans' damage.

Democrat President Clinton had to clean up the economic mess Republicans made, and President Obama has the job of cleaning up behind Republicans' economic mess AGAIN.

If Republicans wanted to show the world how they could make good economic decisions, keep the budget in balance, and care about all Americans' economic woes, they had their chance to do it during the 8 years Republicans held the White House, but Republicans chose to destroy our economy instead, and now are doing everything in their power to stop us from getting back on our feet.

Hi AG. I agree. I suspect the bottom line here is the current crop of uber-conservatives refuse to do anything which might improve our economic situation. In the end, they hope to destroy our President's legacy and will fight tooth and nail to suppress the economic recovery until the end of his 2nd term. Perhaps some even subscribe to the Norquistian vision of making Government small enough to "drown in a bathtub". I refuse to accept that Boehner and his ilk are Republicans. They sure as hell don't demonstrate Republican values. And they sure as hell aren't "patriots". I know allot of good Republicans that are sick to death of what Congress has been doing....or not getting DONE.

Ido

As a professional troll your always blaming Progressives for Washington gridlock. We understand Ido, that's what trolls are paid to do. I was wondering if somewhere under your troll mask if there might be some vestige of a real American left. I ask because you always fail to acknowledge the fact that your beloved Republican Party controls congress, not the Progressives. So how may I ask are the Progressives responsible for congressional inaction? If your going to spread troll lies around then try to do it more intelligently, people are not stupid even if you think they are.

It's obvious the Republican Party did not receive the message sent by the people in the last election. If the Republicans keep playing chicken with our lives and the economy then they should also start preparing for 2014 because after that election the Republican Party will be sent packing into the political wilderness....... hopefully forever.

So the GOP wants to make the Fiscal Cliff negotiations about trying to trump President Obama, and not about what's best for the country?

Remember this?

Blood Oath: GOP vowed to block Obama from the first day he assumed office

Excerpts:

In an interview last week on the WAUG-AM radio program “Make It Happen,” Clyburn said, “They met on the night that he was sworn-in, and took a blood oath to each other that they would be obstacles to [Obama’s] administration,” Clyburn maintained. “They set out to do so in a way that demonstrates the ultimate in disloyalty to the country.”

Assistant Democratic Leader Clyburn, added, “Every attempt by President Obama has made to ‘light a candle’ to help show the way for progress, for opportunity, for bringing us out of the darkness of the great recession that we just experienced, he had seen those candles, those flames blown out time and time again by these Republicans,” Clyburn charged. “And then they have stood on the sidelines cursing the darkness.”

“We were teetering on the brink of [economic] disaster,” when President Obama first came in, Clyburn stated. “That is what greeted this president.”

He said Republican “trickle-down economics,” advocated President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, failed. That was by two George W. Bush tax cuts that contributed to the national deficit. More than 2 million jobs were lost under Bush, crippling America before Obama ever took office.

“…The number one priority for every elected official, especially those sitting up here in Washington, should be to protect the American people; to secure the futures for the American people; to maintain safety in our communities, and to keep moving our country forward,” Clyburn said. “When you tell me all of that should take a backseat to unseating a president, then I think it tells the public all they need to know about your priorities.”
Some of that opposition is based on race, Clyburn believes.

“There has been a theory put forth in this country, from its inception, that there are certain gene pools that are not as good as other gene pools, and by that I mean that some people are just inherently unequal,” Clyburn said. “[The theory says] there are some people who are just inherently inferior and not capable of doing certain things. When people see that this longstanding philosophy that [has been] perpetuated forever is getting a very, serious, in-your-face denigration of its own veracity or validity, then they try to fight it off.”

Warming to his topic Clyburn continued, “No African American is supposed to have the capacity, least more the capability, of being president of the United States. There are people who actually feel that way.”

He made it clear, however, that he doesn’t think that’s the view of a majority of White Americans.

“But there is a big minority of White voters who are absolutely upset that an African American is president of the United States,” he explained.

Clyburn said voter ID laws that require certain state-approved identification is designed to curb the impact of Black voters.

“We can dress it up anyway we want to; we can talk about it anyway we want to, but you know the good Lord has allowed me to live long enough – I’m 72 years old – to call it as I see it,” Clyburn said. “That’s what the fact is.”

http://www.districtchronicles.com/cover/blood-oath-gop-vowed-to-block-obama-from-the-first-day-he-assumed-office-1.2902403#.UNJZ23fhfTo

TO: MarkM012757 who wrote:

"What a narcissistic POS Obama is. This isn’t about him but like everything else he thinks it is. This is about the American people and what is best for them. What an arrogant jerk he is."

I suppose he heard all the rancor Republican followers are spewing on a daily basis, not about the economy, but the nasty little things some folks (names withheld) are saying about him, which he merely suggested is a needless distraction.

rukidding47

What a true idiot you morons elected again.

Obama is the king of fools

This after Boner presented his "Plan B". How did the Republican Party get this low?

"take me out of it,"

They can't Mr. President, it's been personal about you since day one, remember where 13 of the GOP Obstructionist were on January 20, 2009, in a hotel room? At least four of them are standing strong with Boehner, and almost all of them have been elevated in the GOP, here they are for any who have forgotton....

On January 20, 2009 13 Republican Leaders in Congress plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration:

The Guest List:

Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)

 

Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),

Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),

Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)

Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),

Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),

Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),

Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),

Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and

Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).

Even with the country on the brink of default, the Senate's highest ranking Republican says his "single most important" goal is to make Barack Obama a one-term president.

During President Obama's inauguration, these people listed above were planning to destroy President Obama, and America, while McConnell was saying:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told National Journal's Major Garrett in October.

"Well, that is true," McConnell replied. "That's my single most important political goal, along with every active Republican in the country."

I don't really believe much has changed between January 20, 2009 and now, the same group is basically in power, still trying their best to obstruct this particular President.

Tea Party is still determined to take down Obama even if they have to take down the US economy to do it. (Don't forget, they already caused our credit rating to be lowered.)

The U.S. Is out of credit cards because all of their other ones are maxed out, and you morons want to spend more? Absolutly incredible.

Raise the debt limit. Give this country 2 billion forgive that countries 2 billion debt.

Does not look like a revenue problem from here.

Spending in not and never has been any way to prosperity.

Sooner or later Boehner and mainstream republicans are going to have to make a break for it. As long as they allow themselves to be held hostage by Norquist and his Taliban teabaggers, this good ship America will continue to sink and regress back toward a mid-evil times culture of Lords Barons and subjects, a time where women are second class citizens and the wealth and power are reserved to the few.

I was reading an earlier post about "Senate Reconciliation" on taxes in Jan 2013. Can the Senate vote on tax cuts for those making 250,000 or less even after we go over the cliff at years end? If this is true then the Democrats can get EXACTLY what they want here.

I don't know how everyone can be so confident of how evil the other side is and what one side or the other is proposing. The fact is both sides use the media to manipulate people in the hopes to take their side. No one on this board really knows what has been offered by either side or which side has really been compromising or not. You only know what the politicians are trying to convince you is the truth, in which case is why you get the polarization where everyone believes "their side".

That is the only fact on this board.

@True Patriot #1.7: Pretty much agree with your post in It's entirety, except, I'll add; "intransigent economic and fiscal ignorance". Relative to the causes and effects of the debt, the role of government in stimulating mass employment, the damaging effects of great wealth disparity, and the devastating effects of currency imbalance are quite foreign to the minds of the majority of Congressional members, and unfortunately, too damn many Senators. Our economic system is mechanical, with balance variations of course, but nonetheless a mechanical dynamic. The pity is, it has been politicized to the extent, many believe up is now down, while others believe the reverse. Most just assume, then wildly express themselves to the favor of their imaginings. Damn shame. Regards My Friend. Mac

Shipwreck

Go off the fiscal cliff will teach america a lesson?

Unlikely!

American's mentality used to be we want a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. Today it is more the trend is to be a Chicago Cubs fan or Cleveland Browns fan.

Booty,

I was reading an earlier post about "Senate Reconciliation" on taxes in Jan 2013. Can the Senate vote on tax cuts for those making 250,000 or less even after we go over the cliff at years end? If this is true then the Democrats can get EXACTLY what they want here.

Won't happen that way.

Any Reconcilliation Bill still has to be voted on by the entire house even if the negotiators strike an agreement.

Looking at Obama's counter offer of $400,000 cut-off, I'd say the chances of a "bargain" are slipping.

Boehner's $1,000,000 cut-off was already unpopular with the republicans even though $1,000,000 was seen as high enough to not seriously threaten the bulk of the 700,000 jobs the 1% tax is estimated to cost.

What is real insanity is thinking that 700,000 Jobs won't really be lost by the tax increase.

Garcher...without gov spending there would be no American prosperity.. it is the gov that builds the roads the bridges the power plants the locks and dams . and it was gov spending that brought us out of the great depression ...and it was Gov spending that stopped our slide into another depression after GWBush ..take a course in American History dont listen to Glenn Beck and Limbaugh they get paid to lie to you

PLAN B - "...while TWO (2) MILLION Americans would lose unemployment insurance", on December 29th, 2012.

Through no fault of their own, I know of 2 million Americans and their families who will not be having a "Merry Christmas" if this gets passed as advertised.

Brett, I agree with you. Although the media is skewed to the liberal side. It will take miracle to stop this and put this country back on the correct track. I feel that true conservatism is what it will take, hard decisions need to be made that will undoubtedly cause things to get worse before they can get better. We have been on this slow spiral for a long time so the price will be a hard one.

Everyone on here bickering and fighting. Its sad and humerous at the same time. Neither side is giving reasonable consessions. Its all a joke to them.

independent jim, American prosperity is not a result of government spending. In case you didn't know the government can only spend money it gets(or barrows) from the private sector, it's called taxes. The government creates nothing. As far as government spending pulling us out of the great depression this is only true in that it spent the money BUT what you fail to understand is as soon as they spent the money they lowered taxes and got out of the way and let the PRIVATE sector fix the economy. Prosperity comes from the private sector not the government, you failed in economics. As far as being out of the last "depression" that's debatable.

" unrelated funds like Social Security and Medicare"......that's some stupidazz drivle , thanks for the chuckle , none of the left nuts are gonna top that lead off pablum

Take me out of it.

He's been out of it from the beginning. It's his way or the highway. Our only hope is that, Boehner doesn't cave to kicking the can down the road.......again.

Plan B is the plan that Pelosi submitted last April and the democraps rejected it, rejected their own plan. they don't give a rats ass about US, It's all about political gain.

I think it's a brilliant move by mr boner.

Obama man of the year, HMMMMM Hitler was man of the year in 1938, food for thought

I really hope everyone can see now how the Republican party is. Party of lies, party of NO, party of wealthy, party that don't care about the middle class. They plain and simple just don't care about our great country. I will do everything I can to through them out of office once and for all.

Out with Republicans 2014

Mac, why did you make the same mistake so many people continually make: majority of Congressional members, and unfortunately, too damn many Senators.
Senators ARE Congressional members. Congress is NOT just the House, the HOUSE is one half of Congress (in power, even if their numbers are over four times as many bodies.) Members of the House should be called by their proper title...Representative...not Congressman/woman, because Senators are also Congressmen/women.

Like a couple of other posters indicated, the House Plan B is a total farce. They should have passed the Senate's bill back in July and we would have been much closer to solving this "fiscal cliff" problem. But it was an election year, and the GOP really thought they could win everything by defeating that Senate bill and the working class majority.

Oh wait, we really don't have anything to worry about in a fiscal cliff anyway. After all, the world is going to end at 4:20 PM on 122112, isn't it?

We are watching you, GOP.

Stop the foot-dragging and the posturing and fix this mess.

You've have four years to work toward compromise to correct the fiasco that the last GOP Administration thrust upon us as a nation. Instead, you jerked everybody around and wasted time and refused to work with the President on zilch.

You better come up with something pretty fast, or you can kiss all your GOP fannies goodbye in 2014. And tell your Tea Party cronies they are all getting the axe as well.

State Of The Union

Facing eviction, Azusa, California siblings commit suicide

Confronted with the foreclosure of their family home, three Azusa, California siblings committed suicide December 6. Three members of the Alva family—47-year-old Christine, 49-year-old Barbara, and their 59-year-old brother, George—were found dead in the burned remnants of their home on the day they were to be evicted. Upon responding to a neighbor’s emergency call, firefighters found numerous guns and ammunition; the family pets were also found dead…

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2012/12/19/socr-d19.html

Yuri Milner’s Mansion

If you read my article on who owns Facebook, then you’ll be familiar with the name. He’s the head of Digital Sky Technologies who has made an absolute fortune investing in start-ups such as Facebook. This has provided him with enough dollar to splash a bit of cash on the world’s most expensive house, which comes in at $100m for a 25,500 sq-foot property in Los Altos, California. That’s quite a purchase, and something which contrasts hugely with the home of Mark Zuckerberg, listed further down the page. What do you get for $100 million of your finest American dollars? Well, a ballroom, home theater, wine cellar, indoor pool, the list goes on, and why not!

http://www.incomediary.com/10-big-spends-of-the-super-rich

First Time Offender With Mental Health Problems Sentenced to 162 Years in Prison

No one can possibly serve 162 years in prison, so sentences such as the one handed down to 20 year old Quartavious Davis are shockingly arbitrary. Even more disturbing, though, is that Davis has mental health problems and is a first time offender. It would seem that only certain members of our society are allowed second chances, and more often than not, they’re not men who look like Davis…

http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/07/black-news/first-time-offender-sentenced-to-over-100-years-in-prison/

Why Can't Obama Bring Wall Street to Justice?

May 6, 2012 1:38 PM EDT

Despite his populist posturing, the president has failed to pin a single top finance exec on criminal charges since the economic collapse. Are the banks too big to jail—or is Washington’s revolving door at to blame? Peter J. Boyer and Peter Schweizer investigate:

• Obama’s 2009 White House summit with finance titans, in which the president warned that only he was standing "between you and the pitchforks"
  
• Why, despite widespread outrage, financial-fraud prosecutions by the Department of Justice are at 20-year lows

• Attorney General Eric Holder’s lucrative ties to a top-tier law firm whose marquee clients include some of finance’s worst offenders

• How Obama’s trumpeted “task force” for investigating risky mortgage lenders—announced in this year’s State of the Union speech—is badly understaffed and has yet to produce any discernible progress

ww.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/06/why-can-t-obama-bring-wall-street-to-justice.html







S.E.C. and Justice Dept. End Mortgage Investigations Into Goldman

BY BEN PROTESS AND AZAM AHMED

9:06 p.m. | Updated

Federal authorities ended two investigations into the actions of Goldman Sachs during the financial crisis, handing a quiet victory to the bank after years of public scrutiny.

In a rare statement late Thursday, the Justice Department said there was “not a viable basis to bring a criminal prosecution” against Goldman or its employees after a Congressional committee asked prosecutors to investigate several mortgage deals at the bank…

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/goldman-says-sec-has-ended-mortgage-investigation/

Sorry Worn out...it is not what Pelosi submitted to last April. In jest she stated the million dollar mark, and that is the only way this plan B represents what she talked about. Its just like when Boehner said his first proposal was exactly like the proposal put forth by the commission Obama set up except for Boehner neglected to include raising taxes or cutting military spending that the commission recommended.

For the record, most democrats realize we need spending cuts along with tax increases. Also, Obama has increased the federal budget the least of any president since Eisenhower...and it decreased for this upcoming year.

rmc, when did taxes decrease after the great depression? I will have to look into this...since the 1950's had the highest tax rates in U.S. history....and I doubt taxes went down during the war.

Also, the main reason SS is in trouble is the fact that middle class income has stagnated. In the 80's S.S. was in good shape and looked fine in the coming decades assuming middle class income would continue to increase. It didn't..meanwhile the wealthiest's income did increase tenfold or more, but their contribution to S.S. did not increase because of the cap.

Smallbusinessownerinny, Re- post 1.17, "Don't call out the rightwing as racist although some of them are". What kind of bull$hit strategy is that? You have stats that conclude that a portion of Republicans are racist? And if so try to explain your idiotic logic to the fact that Illinois Rep Jesse Jsckson Jr was re-elected by a landslde victory in Oct after being MIA from his position since June? He is under indictment for inopropriately handling campaign funds. One of which is a $40K Rolex watch to some Bimbo he was banging in DC. Yeah ,that's the man for the job!? JJ Jr's wife,Ald. Sandi Jackson,who is standing by her husband. Like so many other Democrat wives that are victims of infidelity do,Eleanor Roosevelt, Jackie Kennedy, Hillary Clinton. Problem is Sandi isn't a victim. She is under investigation for doctering the books after her husband pulled his bi-polar scam. Let's go further,Chicago Alderman Derrick Smith. This balloon head got caught taking a 7K bribe on tape! On tape!! Smith was thrown out of Chicago's city council but his name stayed on the ballot. Thus with the Cook County( The county where Chicago is located) landslide Democrat victory,Derrick Smith was re-elected!? Are these people even close to being the best suited for the job or does their skin color happen to match the ones who voted for them? Give me a break!

true patriot i dont think the reason republicans think obama isnt a citizen is racist.i think its senility and stupidity.altho i would completely rule out incest.have you seen how many old people we have here.every year they convince a vast majority of the elderly that cutting their benefits is a great idea.they dont come right out and say we want to cut social security and medicare they call them entitlements.a word focus groups found has a negative appeal to the elderly.if youve ever applied for a secure government position you know the fbi and or cia do a background investigation on you.how senile must you be to think that a koch brother paid for political web site is a better source of information then the fbi and the cia

@Anti Trust Proponent #1.59: Of course you're right. In the past I have referred to both as "the Congress", and called both Representatives and Senators Congressmen, and/or Congresswomen. Never worked. Most posters responded by calling me a stupid sum-bitch, and the real point of the discussion was lost. Ever since, I been trying to remember to make the more accepted distinction. Thanks for the accurate point out though. Regards

Dear Santa,

This Christmas please bring me:

>435 New Representatives to Congress

>100 New Senators

>1 New President

Just go ahead and pick them at random, you couldn't do any worse.

Love,

Danny

dan42day ...

Dear Santa,

This Christmas please bring me:

>435 New Representatives to Congress

>100 New Senators

>1 New President

Just go ahead and pick them at random, you couldn't do any worse.

Love,

Danny

Cute in a weird a$$ clown kind of way. Your countrymen and women voted for their Representatives and Senators. I would alter your Christmas list to state ....

Dear Santa,

Let those I elected grow a pair to actually do what they were elected to do.

Love,

All of those that believe in this Country.

P.S. - The President of the United States has them and John Boehner is envious.

BigAlLasVegas

The Congress is made up of the House and Senate, the House is controlled by the Reps and the Senate by the Dems. So the lowest approval rating of the Congress is owned by both parties.

Second dirty Harry has shelved more bills passed by the House then he has allowed to come to vote, who is the obstructionist? Harry Reid is a despicable piece of trash and I wouldn't give you .02 cents for him. he is as corrupt as Pelosi the wicked witch of the west.

That being stated the Reps came back with a counter offer and what did the Dems counter that with? Nothing apparently, nothing at all.

Its the same old BS out of Washington by both sides from career politicians looking to blame each other as they do what?

1st everyones taxes are going to go up

2nd the medicare age will increase

3rd Obama care which was touted to lower costs has done nothing but increase costs since it has passed

4th the Feds cannot run the program or implement it in those states that decline to provide an outlet for it, why because they have not made the plans to implement it themselves figuring the states would do it. Failure

5th you will be paying for it without getting it because it wont be ready, correction only some will be paying it lets not forget the many waivers that was also touted to be less then it really is.

6th All of them know what they are doing to screw you the taxpayers.

Apparently talking out both sides is common in Nevada as its all about getting your money, instead of cutting spending.

Boehner will never be the politician, let alone the man Obama is . . . that boat sailed for Boahner a long, long time ago.

What a miracle Obama is....1st President to preside over America's degradation of credit. Biggest spender of any president of history...knee deep in his own doo doo and want's out??? Pathetic.

This whole thing is BS it's a shell game and We the people are the one's that are being fooled, how many times did these Morons play this same game when if you did the MATH will do nothing to fix the REAL PROBLEM, if We spend 1.2 Trillion and save that much over 10 years are We getting ahead of the PROBLEM, "HELL NO", but everyone is being played, I hate to say this but maybe it's time We the people think of taking back our country from the ELECTED IDIOTS !!!!!!!!!, This is one Democrat that is starting to think like a REPUBLICAN, I'm sick of the PURE BS We all are being tossed while these politicans live like KINGS and We have to fight over the scraps!

obama wants to get off the ride before it goes over the cliff what does he know that hes not telling.

@justoneguy, just for the record. Those that are spending are not in the White House. Congress is the banker for the government. They are the one making things worse and worse.

LOL @ Dennis from Columbus and his percentages.

Liberals who are self-sufficient enough to know what they're talking about = 1%.

Liberals whose votes unfortunately count the same as anybody else's = 100%.

Talk about affirmative action gone awry.

I don't really see a problem going over the cliff. I hope we do then the senate and house produce a bill that drops taxes on the 98% later. This way we get defence cuts which will never happen through a fiscal cliff negotiation. Worst case scenario, we go back to Clinton tax levels which aren't the worst thing in the world. We all have to pay our way and things were much better back then.

I think Boehner is doing exactly what the people of this country asked for in the last election... Half voted for Obama and half voted for Romney of course very few more voted for Obama and he won but that doesn't mean you ignore the other half of the country... What they did also was re-elect a Republican House to control spending and they demanded all to work together and meet in the middle.

Boehner is doing just that, Repubs refused any tax increases before the election and the Dems proposed a tax increase on the millionaires and above. Boehner has agreed to the democrats proposal and now they move the goal post saying, "now they need more taxes" it is ALL political on the democrats side. Boehner is actually taking a lot of heat from ll on his side for even agreeing to the Pelosi proposal but he is meeting in the middle.

If Obama doesn't agree to this new bill and we go over the cliff, it is ALL on obama at that point. He needs to learn to compromise That means you ALL give and take a little, its not always one-sided.

Obama still has half of this country that does not agree with him on his ideas just because he won doesn't mean that half gets ignored. That is NOT how this country works nor has it ever, We are a government by the people for the people which is exactly why we have these people elected in the house to represent us and our areas we are from so we all have a voice. This is NOT a dictatorship that gets elected every four years . We elect people to go to Washington and represent us and our beliefs and desires and to compromise with each other in working together to find a common ground so the entire country is represented and moves forward as a whole... Obama is trying to divide us and thinks his side is the only one that matters and that simply is NOT the case nor is it how a Republic works. They need to get back to the concept of a republic nd you people on here saying he won so he has an agenda etc need to get real you sound like idiots to how our Nation is supposed to operate. We have representation as a people and we have 3 branches of government NOT one dictator that you think should make all the rules. And you better be glad it isnt like that, remember Bush was just in there for 8 years and you sure wanted to have representation then and you had it, now the shoe is on teh other foot. Respect the way our government is supposed to work and work will get done

LOL, so now our esteemed POTUS wants to be taken out of the equation.

Way to be a leader obama, when the rubber meets the road find an excuse.

What a true idiot you morons elected again. Obama is the king of fools

It just never stops, does it?

Here is one "foolish" thing Obama said:

"But, you know, at some point, you know, they’ve got to take me out of it and think about their voters and think about what’s best for the country."

And, according to the results from a recent CBS poll:

An overwhelming majority of Americans — 69 percent — continue to support raising taxes on all income above $250,000 a year, with even a majority of Republicans supporting such a deal.

There are 13 Republican Senators up for re-election in 2014. All 435 seats in the HR will be up for re-election in 2014. What seems foolish to me is ignoring more than 2/3 of the very people Republicans need to keep their jobs in 2 years.

Where oh where is the negotiation going to start coming from the Democrats and this President. Does this President not understant the term negotiate?. You take what you can get let go what you cant and try for more later. He now wants "left out of it" . He knows full well this is as good as it is going to get so he is gonna try to side step reponibility for not getting all he wants. Once again shirking his part in it like so many other things.

Obama thinks himself more a dictator than a President. He belives HE ALONE writes law. HE alone gets to make the rulles. HE ALONE gets to interpret the law and HE ALONE can ignore laws at will. This man is a giant step back for democracy if any of you choose to look at his reacord

Obama's attempt to put preasue on the GOP saying that unemployment benefits extentions would expire is simply BS... anyone who continues to be laid off and those benefits run out can move on to other assitance programs. The person would not hav ecash to use but would have food and other staples to get by on if they qualify. Get off you soap box and negotiate mister President. It is time. The campain is over. Just because you said someting over and over and over in campain seaches doe NOT make it a mandate nor does it make it so. Grow some and take a hit on your agenda for the good of the country. This road goes both ways. The GOP has put tax increases up ( not as big as you wanted) now it's your turn .

Liberals....Obama's tax increase raises $70 billion. He just spent that on Hurricane Sandy relief....which included something about money going to Alaska for some reason.

The tax increase is nothing but posturing and "sticking it to the man" so that these jealous losers can feel like they got revenge on rich people.

It's a spending problem and Obama has no desire to cut any spending. Funny, if you look at these liberals who are jealous of the rich, I bet their personal finances are full of "spending problems" as well. Therefore, I say Boehner should take it over the cliff. The reason is simple. It's the only way spending will get cut.

Ok, first off, anyone who says people don't like Obama because of his race are just plain deluded. Look around. This is not the 1960s. We have equal opportunity now and to say that a man is not a man because of the color of his skin is ridiculous. Stop trying to play the race card. It does nothing but show that you have not progressed with the times. That went out somewhere around the mid 2000s. It's 2012, please come join us...if you dare. /end rant...sorry, the race card is just a crutch for the ignorant.

Take you out of it Mr. President? Aren't you also part of the bargaining group? Does not your party also have a say? Are you not the leader of your party? No sir, I will not take you out of the equation. You know, all this seems like a cooperation/union bargain negotiation. I recognize these things being in the corporate world. At the end of these things, they come to terms and both sides look like "good guys" because a deal gets struck which is in the interests of both. And some get a little something extra in the process. If you look in the background though, they already planned what they were going to give you anyway. According to The Huffington Post in a story entitled "Obama Tax Plan Cut-Off Closer to $300,000", The President has already decided to give up to that much leeway. But this is how they said it.

Obama has repeatedly said that families making more than $250,000 per year would face higher income tax rates under his deficit reduction plan, while families making less than $250,000 per year would not. The reality: That threshold is more like $305,000 per year, The New York Times' Catherine Rampell and Binyamin Appelbaum report

This being the case, does this mean that they know what they already know what they are going to give us and are just showing the illusion of leadership by bickering back and forth? Is the fight all part of the "show" to make America believe that there are "bad guys and good guys" in this fight, to make your respective parties more attractive to independent thinkers?

We're not going over the fiscal cliff. We're keeping the American people in check. "Let them argue amongst themselves for a bit. We've got this done, but it's easier to control them while they are divided." It is much easier for those few in the ruling class to keep the many in the non ruling class shouting in one direction or another. Be it about race, class, or whatever. Why? Because we are easily distracted. Look at the majority of these posts. Those who shout "Go President" and "Go Speaker" are among the masses that haven't realized yet, the deal was struck...you are just being strung along for the illusion of leadership from both parties.

Obama to GOP: Take me out of 'cliff' debate

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

It takes a lot of brass to be the president for almost 4 years and then at the 11^th hour tell Congress to “take me out of it”.

Where has all the “focus like a laser” nonsense gone? Our economy and jobs have been the number one priority for 4 years and now of course with less than 2 weeks left Barrack Hussein decides it’s time to get serious.

This incompetent community organizer has campaigned for 4 years and now all of a sudden everything is about him, as usual. The limp-wristed Liberals/Progressives have not passed a budget for 1,331 days but now the panic sets in for the “fiscal cliff”. Maybe if you Libbies had the ability to create a budget for the largest economy in history we wouldn’t be scrambling for irrational solutions to the main problem our great Republic faces.

This is typical of Liberal/Progressive delusions. They refuse to address issues based on policy, instead its forced as ideology and emotion. There have been five Republican budget plans, two neutral plans and of course Barrack Husseins embarrassing plans that no one, not even the coward Democrats, would vote for. Out of all these plans the Democrats couldn’t find any combination that would be feasible. Hairy Reed has refused to even look at any legislation sent to the Senate, declaring everything either “dead on arrival” or told to just “table it”. And the Democrats think Americans don’t see through their hypocrisy.

So who is really the Party of No? Real Americans know it’s the Democrats.

Barrack Hussein has added more Debt than any president in history in just 4 years, stagnant growth cripples any real recovery, massive health care and financial regulations that cronies are getting waivers for are creating more confusion in the business community. Continuing indecision on taxes, entitlements and expansion of social programs multiplies the uncertainty that continues to create stagnant commerce.

This administration is an embarrassment. 23 million Americans continue to be under/unemployed, consumer confidence is at historic lows, millions are homeless and hopeless.

This is your “Hope & Change”. This is your “Forward”. This is your future America.

God Bless and help America, you may be our last real hope for change.

Take me out of of it? WTF, you're the F'kin so called president. Obama wants to wrap this thing up, he doesn't want to postpone his Hawaiian Christmas vacation, hell I wouldn't want to miss that either, especially on the taxpayers dime and Joe 'the Puppet' Biden now has to crawl out from under Obama's desk and with an attempt to handle gun control, what a f'in joke ....... hey you fools voted for these two buffoons!

One more little Christmas gift Obama has given us is now they offering for sale stock/shares in GM that Obama bailed out with taxpayers dollars, losing mega millions in the process, due the repayment plan did not work. My questions is ..... if we paid for them in advance, shouldn't they just give us the shares, it was bailed out with our earned taxing dollars.

Solution: Obama and Boehner should join hands and jump off the fiscal cliff together!

Mr. President,

Make our day and VETO this Bonehead's proposal of no more compromise. Time and again he and the republicans have shown no interest in helping America and Americans, only the rich and have's of this country matter to them. Just like Mitt told us in the campaign!

Brooklyn, Boehner should be negotiating with Nancy Pelosi...not Obama. Obama has already told Boehner what he expects and will veto something that to American people don't want yet the bone head Speaker of the house still tries to drag Obama into a pissing match. He goes to talk to the president then after talking to the house Republicans changes his mind so Obama is wasting time with these idiots. It's time for the Republicans to stop their BS and get to work.

This is the worst do nothing house in modern history. They should be ashamed and give the American people back the money they have spent over this last year of doing nothing. Boehner and the Republicans idiots thought that Obama was a dead duck but the American people saw through the Republican BS and reelected the only person that represents all the people.

You tell 'em Obama!

You tell them to forget about what the founders said. After all, they were white men.

Forget about what these programs cost. Forget about the $16 Trillion in debt, you just spend whatever you want. To hell with the consequences. You can just blame it on the Republicans. The news media will back you up on it, guaranteed.

Besides, you have to break down the American free market system by overloading it with debt and entitlements (the Cloward-Piven strategy) before you can usher in the era of global governance under an international ruling body.

THEN, you can confiscate wealth from the rest of the people who still have it, take their property, nationalize industry and imprison those who refuse to surrender to international rule.

Hey O'Bama, you A-Hole, start at least acting like the President. Threatening people will only invite counter-threats and maybe even other events!! YOU CAN'T TAX YOURSELF NOR SPENT THE U.S. OUT OF DEBT. Even a 1st Grader is taught that you can't get everything you want. You can't govern a country with email,Twitter,Facebook, etc. and you can expect to survive if you continue to take a "my way or the highway approach". If you do sooner or later you will no longer be a President. You can't raise about $900 billion in taxes and increase spending $1.5-$2 Trillion dollars. Personally I would let you go over the "fiscal Cliff" so people can see EXACTLY how much of a failure you are as President. In history, any leader with the same policies as you are "forcing" on legal tax paying citizens has not been removed from office by the "force" of those same citizens. O'Bama should look at Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini and similar leaders who have tried to lead their citizens on the same path and learn from their mistakes.

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Anyone who has seen my posts in the past knows that I favor the ideology of the democrats over the republicans.

But I am here to ask a very simple question of my side: "What are the democrats doing to compromise at this point"?

Your answer is nothing, its their way or no way. i am neither side by the way. They all need to go,they are all criminals.

We are already over the fiscal cliff.

We have to climb back up, if China doesnt cut our loan rope first.

JoeB, from your comments it looks like you're still in the 1st grade. I guess that's what happens when you sit in front of the TV all day listening to FAUX News.

hey washington simple hint sometimes we can have a pot roast for dinner other times it has to be peanut butter and jelly. it depends on what we can afford! get the hint! balance the budget and live within your means. easy solution stop spending what you dont have!

The GOP has said it will consent to higher taxes on the wealthy if President Obama will put his SPECIFIC entitlement program cuts into the deal...which Obama said he would do. Obama has yet to hold up his end of the deal and still wants to blame the GOP....and his moronic supporters still don't "get it". It is Obama that is holding up the fiscal cliff deal by not putting his "cuts" in spending on the dotted line...a "promise" to do it later doesn't count.

Tonytellsthetruth your statement is laughable and I will tell you why. In your time frame July 2008 - July 2009 when as you correctly claim we ran a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit, we had TARP, TARP 2, and almost a trillion dollar stimulus. So what gives Tonytellsthetruth? Those were one year expenditures that drove up our annual deficit, but now that they are gone why didn't the deficit come down? Well that is the trillion dollar question liberals don't seem to be able to answer.

Bush ran a 460 billion dollar deficit in his final year in office. The two wars have cost 120 billion per year, look it up the facts are out there. The prescription drug benefit 68 billion per year. Can't add those two items and come anywhere near a trillion dollar annual deficit. As for cutting 716 billion out of Medicare, that money is being used to fund ObamaCare. So we didn't save any money on that deal. Just keep making up the numbers Tonytellsthetruth so you can pretend like all liberals that Obama is above reproach. Never has this country had a president so coddled by his supporters that Washington DC is the new Fantasy Land.

"Saying that Republican opponents should "take me out of it," President Barack Obama appealed Wednesday for compromise on the "fiscal cliff," "

That seems a bit Narcisistic to me - thinking that it's all about HIM.

And insisting that "It's my way or the highway" is hardly most people's idea of 'Compromise'.

Let's see if Obama rejects the new bill from the Republicans for his requested 13% tax rate increase on the 'rich' - no strings attached. Even Senators Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are on record as favoring limiting the 13% tax rate increase to those making over $1 Million per year.

Backhouse "The world's superpower cannot default on bills, or threaten not to pay its bills EVER AGAIN."

Agreed, but perhaps you can explain why Obama threatened to stop paying back the money borrowed from Social Security retirees in the last Debt limit debate in favor of making payments to the Chinese on the Debt.

Why would he give priority to the Chinese over our own American retirees who paid into their retirement 'Trust' accounts over their entire working careers?

With some people you have to learn to hate them, but with Bonehead Boehner is so easy and comes naturally!

Rick-3416939 "As for cutting 716 billion out of Medicare, that money is being used to fund ObamaCare. So we didn't save any money on that deal."

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has estimated that Obamacare will cost the taxpayers over $2 Trillion over the next 10 years. The $2 Trillion in tax increases & 'spending cuts' that Obama wants will do nothing but pay for his expensive new 'legacy' program - It will do nothing to reduce the $Trillion annual Deficits.

Obama won the election by appealing to the voters base instincts with his 'War on Women, his Class Warfare/envy, his War on Business, and his War on the Rich' and making 47 million people 'dependent on the government' for public assistance - NOT because the people agree with his tax and spend policies.

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What a true idiot you morons elected again.

Obama is the king of fools"

Interesting statement..I have to asume you voted, if you voted at all , for Romney and the other republican whatevers. It would have been nice to see actually just how far the republican party would have gone to bring this nation to its knees as I am sure the Mormon Romney would have done. Since many seem to want to go to extreams to protect the wealthy , just how far would republican voters actually allowed this to continue ? Everything Romney was concerned about only helped himself and his wealthy friends as do much of the republican party today.

All of congress, republican or democrate, were elected to work for us all..not the few. However I guess that is not the case anymore. If anyone is interested in what is wrong with this nation today...look at the number of millionaires in congress...and then pay attention to just what or who each bill or law they come up with protects. For instance..concerning social security, which the republiocans are fighting against...why is there a cap on earned income or any kind of income ? JUst who is protected from that law itself....? Congress complain about the cost of madicaid or medicare..yet their own insurance cost for each of them is around 80K each. They are paid over 150K per year and more....yet complain about a few dollars going to those who have already worked their entire lives for this nation and have paid every year for the right to social security that they paid in. Tell me anything that any politican is entitled to other than what they give to themselves with out asking the voters their thoughts on it.? I know of no one that can set his or her own pay raise..or cost of living increases...or even insurance cost..other than our congressional reps.

If we continue to suffer economic hardship due to a continued lack of leadership we can blame those who voted for Obama in this last election. He had a proven track record of not being able to perform his duties as President, and he didn't even promise any change with that regard. We are stuck for four years with an elected President that continues to promote his personal stature over the needs of the American citizens.

No government in history has taxed its way out of deficit spending. The idea is counterproductive, the more you raise the tax rates the fewer tax revenues you collect. If you want to reduce deficit spending you have to reduce spending.

As far as "fair tax" rates go, does anyone really think it is fair that one percent of the people pay the share of sixty percent of all citizens in taxes?

JimSpence: Well said! The message needs to be repeated, so here it is:

It takes a lot of brass to be the president for almost 4 years and then at the 11^th hour tell Congress to “take me out of it”.

Where has all the “focus like a laser” nonsense gone? Our economy and jobs have been the number one priority for 4 years and now of course with less than 2 weeks left Barrack Hussein decides it’s time to get serious.

This incompetent community organizer has campaigned for 4 years and now all of a sudden everything is about him, as usual. The limp-wristed Liberals/Progressives have not passed a budget for 1,331 days but now the panic sets in for the “fiscal cliff”. Maybe if you Libbies had the ability to create a budget for the largest economy in history we wouldn’t be scrambling for irrational solutions to the main problem our great Republic faces.

This is typical of Liberal/Progressive delusions. They refuse to address issues based on policy, instead its forced as ideology and emotion. There have been five Republican budget plans, two neutral plans and of course Barrack Husseins embarrassing plans that no one, not even the coward Democrats, would vote for. Out of all these plans the Democrats couldn’t find any combination that would be feasible. Hairy Reed has refused to even look at any legislation sent to the Senate, declaring everything either “dead on arrival” or told to just “table it”. And the Democrats think Americans don’t see through their hypocrisy.

So who is really the Party of No? Real Americans know it’s the Democrats.

Barrack Hussein has added more Debt than any president in history in just 4 years, stagnant growth cripples any real recovery, massive health care and financial regulations that cronies are getting waivers for are creating more confusion in the business community. Continuing indecision on taxes, entitlements and expansion of social programs multiplies the uncertainty that continues to create stagnant commerce.

This administration is an embarrassment. 23 million Americans continue to be under/unemployed, consumer confidence is at historic lows, millions are homeless and hopeless.

This is your “Hope & Change”. This is your “Forward”. This is your future America.

God Bless and help America, you may be our last real hope for change.

What a joke. Obama can't stay out of anything that is in the public eye. He is the one that inserted himself into the fray, not the Republicans. Boehner was just foolish enough to play along.

"Obama to GOP: 'Take me out of it' "

Just give me what I demand.

Narcissism anyone?

Acknowledging that his most vehement foes live in conservative districts with little political "incentive" to back the Democratic president, Obama blamed Republican rank-and-file for personalizing the politics of possible deficit reduction plans.

Why is it that Obama's idea of compromise is always caving in to what he wants.... The republicans are proposing tax increases on the wealthiest along with some cuts. Seems like a "balanced approach" that the president advocates. I do know that if every working family starts having to pay and average of $4k more a year in taxes (myself included), then we will blame EVERYONE, including OBAMA.

""The president will have a decision to make," he said. "He can call on the Senate Democrats to pass that bill, or he can be responsible for the largest tax increase in American history." THe time for rational discourse is over. THe time for overheated rhetoric has arrrived!

THEN STOP CAMPAIGNING FOR IT, ARE YOU REALLY THIS............? WHAT A BABY

Obama is just a greedy little man.

In 12 days ObamaCare will impose a 4.7% rate increase on people making over 200/250K a year. This puts the marginal tax rate to 39.7%.

The additional 4.6% increase is just icing on the cake for him.

I say screw the cliff lets ALL go pay our fair share. I have a family of 5 and only make 57K a year and will gladly pay $1,000 more to help my children have a brighter future.

Time to pay up america and get off the credit card high.

So, last week Speaker Boehner said Obama's offer wouldn't pass thru the Congress, and would kill jobs.

Now, Speaker Boehner proposes a plan that won't pass thru both Houses, raises taxes on millionaires and now, in one week, will NOT kill jobs. It does nothing about spending and now negotiations have suspended.

Republicans also criticize Obama for saying, over a year ago, that we need to raise taxes millionaires, and now wants to raise taxes on those making $400K or more.

I guess Republicans think changing you mind after a year is not allowed, but changing it in less than a week if fine.

It looks like the inmates in the Republican House are taking over again.

Blame is deflection. "It's them. Over there. See?" The mark follows the pointing finger while the wallet is slipped out of their pocket.

Kill the republican bill that once again protects only the rich!

Randy,

How out of touch with reality you are when it is the republicans that are protecting the greedy who want more greed!

ROY WILSON-336103

Agreed, but perhaps you can explain why Obama threatened to stop paying back the money borrowed from Social Security retirees in the last Debt limit debate in favor of making payments to the Chinese on the Debt.

Why would he give priority to the Chinese over our own American retirees who paid into their retirement 'Trust' accounts over their entire working careers?

Good points Roy.

This is especially compelling when you consider the criminals in Washington insist that there is some mythical “trust fund”, some magical “lock box” where our “contributions” are safely kept. The trust fund that Chucky Schumer insists has over $2.7 trillion dollars in it.

Funny isn’t it? Despite all that money in our SS fund Barrack Hussein and Timmy “Turbo Tax” Geithner kept threatening us that they wouldn’t be able to send out millions of checks UNLESS the debt ceiling was raised by $2.4 trillion last year.

Now why would they hold those checks back if we had all that money in the trust fund? Hell, that much money should cover our S.S. payments for over 50 months.

The reason is that there is no trust fund, no lock box, NO MONEY!!!!!!

All our money paid into SS has been spent, given away or wasted. SS is a Ponzi scheme and is broke. The only real difference is that Charlie Ponzi couldn’t force more of his victims to pay more into his scheme, our government can.

I would love to have mine and my employer’s contributions for all the years I have worked to invest myself. I guarantee you I could get more than a 2.2% return on my money for all those years. Of course, our criminal government will never give me a choice in that because they do such a great job handling the economy.

Of course the Liberals/Progressives believe nothing is wrong with their unsustainable entitlements.

This is their shame.

Greed isn’t someone wanting to keep more of what they earn, its people demanding a greater share of money that someone else has earned.

Mark in SoCal

Might I contend that voting for Mr. Obama simply because of race is just as racist as opposing him because of it? Perhaps not as inimical, but racist none the less. Better still we drop the whole stupid race thing - starting with the media and its obsession with racial categorizations.

Mark in SoCal, YOU ROCK...you are my hero of the day!! Thank you so much, lift my spirits.

IMO its about attitude, not skin color...you bring a polarized attitude to the table, even if you words are not such, you will get what you brought to the table...polarization; and currently this country appears to me, more polarized than ever before; granted im only in my 30's and an AZ resident who has been broken off from the rest of America (in voice) over SB1070..I really feel that we as AZ residents are being shut out because of so called racism err SB1070...white person living in AZ who tried to pull SB1070..now everyone in America laughs at us, spits in our faces, and refuses to see what living conditions are like here in PHX for anyone of any color...now were just no bodies to the rest...it really sucks that our leaders in Washington laughed at us and used us as a tool, brown black or white.

SB1070 was used as a tool of racism instead of its intended purpose of border control...Washington painted that picture of 'we are racist in AZ'...how do you fix that?

@ American Girl

Every single post you make always starts with Republicans ruined this countries economy. Let me give you some facts MORON. Peanut Farmer Carter, started the housing crisis, and was expanded when Clinton allowed investors to sell those toxic mortgages all over hell and gone. Also, both sides of the aisle are to blame, as Mr. Clinton was warned in 1995 what was going to happen, and no one did anything about it. So, knock off your horse crap blaming Republicans exclusively.

Sounds like the Romney supporters have still not gotten over the fact that they LOST the election.

The GOP and TP need to come to terms with the fact that the majority of American citizens like -- some even love -- our President, and we intend to stand behind him.

All the hateful remarks and negative posting from GOP/TP supporters did not help Romeny/Ryan win the election, and all the negative comments and posts don't make any difference now either.

The President has a firm footing in the White House, and even though the Republicans and Tea Party don't like it, they need to think of America as a nation instead of their little selfish agendas anymore.

The President offered to change Social Security by tying cost of living increases to a "Chained CPI" rather than inflation in the consumer index as is currently the case. This will result in a cut of benefits to those on Social Security and an increase in taxes on people who work while on Social Security. Since Social Security has done nothing to create or increase the national debt, this is just cost shifting to the middle class and letting the wealthy continue to skate on their responsibilities on this issue. See the following video for a detailed explanation of this change:

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/if-we-let-them-cut-social-security-no#comments

silverton , you tin foil hat is showing

TO THE PEOPLE IN BOTH PARTIES WHOSE VISION IS CLOUDED BY PARTY LINES-

ELEPHANTS- The speakers "plan b" has been quietly reported by multiple media outlets to actually raise taxes on the middle class by eliminating deductions. Coming down from no tax increase to increases on over a million is conceding a little, but not much. Also, if you want to cut government spending, cut from defense and your own benefit pool. Leave the programs in place that actually help people. Stop giving out corporate welfare.

Donkeys- Spending HAS TO BE CUT. Even if we raise taxes on everyone, we still need to cut the budget. Raising the SS tax income level will help, but we need to make SS separate again and not your own personal piggy bank. You want a balanced budget? Make all entitlement money taxable with the exception of seniors over 65. Put a 2 year eligibility cap in a 15 year span for unemployment AND welfare. No more generations milking the system.

There are fixes for anything, but its going to take some common sense and some balls. Question is who has them?

clwyd-2621393

Randy,

How out of touch with reality you are when it is the republicans that are protecting the greedy who want more greed!

Some reality for you if your brain can fathom it.

In 2009, the shares of federal taxes paid by households in certain income quintiles were:

• Lowest quintile: 0.3 percent
• Middle quintile: 9.4 percent
• Highest quintile: 67.9 percent

~~ www.cbo.gov/publication/43373

hummmmm more reality if you can stand it.

The study found that 95 percent of millionaires gave to charity in 2011 — down
from 98 percent in 2009. Fully 89 percent of millionaires gave their time to
charities (as well as their money) in 2011, with more than half of the
millionaires giving more than 100 hours of their time. ~~~~ www.cnbc.com/id/49596515/Millionaires_Give_Nine_Percent_of_Income_to_Charity

Those greedy bastards **eyes roll** Lets look at taxes due to kick in Jan 1st 2012 outside of the cliff talks. That would be Obama Care taxes.

Beginning in 2013, individuals with earnings greater than $200,000 per year and couples with more than $250,000 will pay an additional 0.9 percent of Medicare tax on wages above those threshold amounts.

For those individuals with income over these thresholds, an additional 3.8 percent tax will be due on capital gains, interest income and dividend income. The $200,000 and $250,000 thresholds do not increase with inflation, allowing more taxpayers to be impacted by the additional tax every year. ~~~~ www://medcitynews.com/2012/12/new-rules-from-the-aca-means-higher-taxes-in-2013-for-almost-everyone/#ixzz2Fe33bNbF

This link goes into more details

www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/x/212076/Healthcare/IRS+Releases+Guidance+For+Employers+And+Others+On+The+2013+Medicare+Taxes+Under+The+Affordable+Care+Act

Some simple math for you

39.6% top marginal rate + 4.7% above ACA taxes = top marginal rate of 44.3%

35% now + 26.6% increase = 44.3% wow those greedy rich people don't want a 26.6% increase in taxes on the federal level not including state tax , property tax , gas tax , sales tax , etc etc etc.

Oh ya and then give an avg. of 9% to charity too.

Reality is Liberals are greedy , full of envy and promote class warfare that is destroying America from within.

good day

Kill the republican bill that once again protects only the rich!

The rich pay FAR more taxes both in terms of real dollars and percentages. The poor pay no income taxes at all and actually get refunds (they pay "negative taxes").

All this crap about protecting the rich is just that. Crap. If you took EVERY penny the rich have, it would run the government about a month, and then we'd have lost about 70% of our future tax revenue (because the VAST majority of our revenue as a government already comes from the rich).

Democrats know that people are basically stupid and believe whatever they tell them to believe. They spout about tax cuts for the rich and the minions believe that republicans want to cut taxes for the rich (they don't, by the way, and Obamacare already raises taxes for everyone, rich and poor).