I think there is too many deputy assistant secretaries.

The buck stops at Hillary.

Is that what we get from having a First Lady as Secretary of State??

Hillary is supposedly working from home per State Dept. Why can't she testify via video conferencing? This will be her Swiftboat if she runs in 2016. She should have testified right after the incident. The information in this report doesn't appear to be anything that someone of her ranking would not have been privy to, prior to the election. She gets off because she already proclaimed resignation prior to the event. But I agree, the buck stops with Obama. He can't get a pass. Gotta love Truman for his straightforwardness. Democrat or Republican - they were protecting the election results. Just like the crap here in NJ with Menendez and his illegal intern not getting arrested until after the elections. Where is the outrage on any of this? NJ people just go to the polls and vote straight party every single election. You just gotta wonder with all the highly intelligent educated people in this state why they do it over and over.

So now that the election is over they will bank on no one paying attention. Is there a true journalist with b@$&s out there who is allowed to focus on the facts when they happen? Or do they fear the American people may actually have a brain and think for themselves outside of their spin!

edgarw

I disagree totally. Obama wanted Colin Powell as his SoS. The Clinton Mafia insisted that he appoint Hillarity instead.

The Benghazi debacle is something Hillary should WEAR as she leaves office in DISGRACE. She was always big on the photo op, but very 'light' when it came to the heavy lifting and tough assignments.

I'm amazed that anything critical of this office even made it to MSN. Other sources have considerably more information on this report than is disclosed in these two ridiculous paragraphs.

The unclassified report is a white wash for the administration. Should anyone be surprised?

Just another day in the administration.

Where are all the liberals that were screaming that this was a witch hunt? Hillary in 2016? Not a chance!

Sorry libs but your gods screwed up.....time to own up.

Too bad two of the resignations weren't Obama and Hillary Clinton.

So where's Hillary? Thought she took 'full responsibility'. Oh, she suddenly fell 'sick' how convenient. That's ok, we can wait for her to heal up. But she's still not going to testify anyway. Why is that?

now you all realise this report the public heard about and yes it is bad, however there is a classified longer and in more detail report that is and will be read by the congressional hearings group and it is really bad. this why clinton has disappeared from public. so no reporters can ask her questions.

the old out of sight out of mind, her handlers are trying to distance her from scandal so she can run for president..I dont want to hear about sickness or concussions, really when have you ever NOT heard or seen either clinton, they are both media whores !

The Obama Administration made sure this report was not finished or released until after the election. Why aren't SofS Clinton the President Obama willing to take some of the blame, after all isn[t that what good leaders do?

This is just the unclassified report, bet we will never see the classified report being declassified and released any time soon. If these people are such buffoons who in the hell hired them for these positions?

Wow nary an objective poster to be found here. People who screwed up are being disciplined and let go. Suggestions/solutions are published, the SOS says they will be implemented (far sooner than the original 9/11 commission suggestions were I might add) is that not enough?

Well I don't want to interrupt an endzone effigy celebration. Carry on.

So after the dust settles, and a scathing report, only 3 lower level employees resign.

Skibum.....the "buck" just doesn't go as far as it used to!

He used the Clintons anyway.

He really plans on backing Michelle for 2016 and will throw Hilary under the bus to do it.

He has no further use for the Clintons and they do not wield the power they once did.

Sad that nothing will really come of all this. It will be like Fast and Furious all over again. A few people will take the fall and that will be it, the state run media will bury the story and all will be sunny in the land of liberals.

Crowbar,

I never really thought of that but you are probably right. What can be worse than Barry Obama? Michelle all this for a damn flag Obama.

Jan,

The libs dont care if Americans die as long as they can still push their agenda. And they do not celebrate Christmas, remember they are the ones always making fun of Christians/Catholics for believing in God. They celebrate Festivus on 12/25.

Adam,

Sorry guy, Hillary and Barry watched Americans get killed. They could have called in troops or given air support. I am guessing if a group of F-18's came screaming over at mach 1 all those little sh-t bags would scatter and if not.....light them up. Keep trying to defend the failure in chief.

Let me get this straight:

You can't prevent madmen from killing innocents by restricting guns because crazy people always find a way

but..

four people get killed in a foreign embassy and it's someone's fault because it wasn't prevented.

(:^D Consistency is still your biggest enemy.

The libs dont care if Americans die as long as they can still push their agenda.

lol. Oh the irony of that whopper. How's that Jobs, Jobs, Jobs (Abortion!), Jobs, (Gay Marriage!), Jobs (Medicare!) thing going for you, Irish? As for your understanding of how things went down in Benghazi, are you not reading the reports on purpose or are you just too stupid to understand them? Nobody "watched Americans get killed" - at least no more than watched when over a dozen embassies were attacked from 2000-2008. Keep trying to beat that dead horse though - we understand it won you an election. Oh... wait... never mind.

Hillary is to sick and dehydrated to resign. The President asked her to resign and she told him she was too tired, could he get Susan to resign instead. The President said perfect because Susan had nothing to do with it and it will confuse the press.

This will be Hillary's Chappaquidick. There ends her 2016 bid for the white house.

This is payback for all those who were forced to resign from the Bush administration after 9/11.

There weren't any? Really? Well I guess this is just a political hack job then thanks to a Republican controlled House of Reps that has its priorities up its behind.

Somebody will write a book about this twenty years from now. Then we will get all the answers about the attack when it's way too late to hurt Obama. The administration and the liberal media will never let all the details come out, they trust trickle out a little at a time.

Dan,

How pathetic and desperate can you get?

"You can't prevent madmen from killing innocents by restricting guns because crazy people always find a waybut..four people get killed in a foreign embassy and it's someone's fault because it wasn't prevented."

Did the faculty at Sandy Hook make repeated requests to law enforcement for protection due to escalating violent attacks in the days prior to the attack on them?????? And what would you say should happen to the officers who failed to listen if they had made requests???? Somehow I doubt your bleeding heart would excuse them for doing nothing.... especially if they also then lied to your face about it.

It is party-obedient sheep like you who ignore reality to protect "their party" who are responsible for the continued lowering of America's political bar.

As with all liberals, reality and independent thought is your biggest enemy.

Obama, the better man or so I have been told LOL

Pedestrian,

Nice try at deflecting, idiot. Maybe you should read some reports on how they watched it happen in real time from a drone. Stop getting your news from lib sites that are owned by the government. Are you that stupid that you cant read between the lines? Requests were made for more security and it was denied.....this was just days before 9/11. I know with you libs party is more important than country. See the difference is that whether its a Dem or Rep in office I will bash them equally when they F up.

Eric - did you just learn to cut and paste, or do you really think that such an astonishing post that you need to put it on every thread in this forum?

Nice try Irish, but under Bush, 53 deaths, 90 injuries in embassy attacks.

This is all political theatre.

You lost the national election, move on.

By comparison Obama has done much better.

Where was your outrage during the Bush administration.

Oh, and quit getting your news from FOX. Talk about biased,.

Janie 1645002, haven't you heard.... Chappaquidick did not stop the Kennedys.....they continued to lie, cheat and cover up the murder.

Eric,

The election is over, yes....way to go little buddy. We have moved on, its you libs that cant seem to move past it. Just because you won an election doesnt mean you cant be held accountable for screw ups. And in case you werent paying attention, Bush had one of the lowest approval ratings ever when he left office. Do you think its just because Democrats didnt approve of the job he was doing? No, it is because Republicans were sick of the way he was handling the country and alot Republicans are also the reason that Obama was elected in 2008. Another thing little Eric.....I dont watch Fox News. I know that is your little go to if someone disagrees with you. Maybe you should stop watching MSN. See how easy that is and how stupid it sounds. To be honest after this years elections I stopped watching all news programs, they are all full of sh-t biased.

Still didn't answer my question. How is it the Republicans can stand in judgement when Bush's record on embassy death's was so atrocious? Was Condi Rice investigated? Why wasn't Bush held accountable.

It's great that you want accountability when it's someone not in your party but can't seem to hold them accountable when they are in office.

has the king dodged another arrow? has he gotten others to fall on their swords? hes such a cleaver deflector & chief. maybe he should be chief sitting bull.

Damn, I was wishing one would be Obama. But then he wouldnt be able to use fear and spineless libs to pass his gun control.

pjam09,

What a cute response. You're right I am the sheep in this equation. <---LOL

I am the one being led around by this nonsense conspiracy theory that Fox has continued to repeat ad nauseum? Were you this upset about any similar event that happened under bush?

My point was that people from your side of the fence can't pick and choose when accountability kicks in. Why did that school have to ask for security? Any one paying attention would be able to see a pattern with crazy people walking into public places and killing unarmed innocent people.

You either missed the point I was making or ,as usual for your kind, conveniently don't see the consistency issue because you can't attack the President. I would say go educate yourself but you are a waste of time and space. This is a ridiculous faux-scandal and you eat it up like the little lap dog you truly are.

Chief sitting "bull" was Romney. Largest pile of "bull" yet.

Somebody will write a book about this twenty years from now

You are absolutely right. It will be a good read. I think it will be a Susan Rice book. I think thinking Americans know what was/is going on here but it will be interesting to read the backstabbing from her perspective. The failure to recognized the threats. It is always easier to admit to mistakes 20 years later.

Well, he IS the "sitting" President .... and he certainly IS "full of bull" !

Eric,

Bush was held accountable. Everyday the press buried him on something, cant say the same for Obama. Will anything happen to Obama? No, just like Bush. So what is your point? Just settle down with your fake outrage. And Republicans can stand in judgement the same way you libs do, point the finger at things you dont approve of.

eric.... romney is gone keep up will ya

Eric, you're living in the past.

Join the rest of us in December 2012.

Stop blaming past presidents for Obama's failures.

Nice spin, Irish.

75% of republicons approved of the job that Bush performed. And if you're mathematically challenged (which, given your spin, you might be), that's 3 out of every 4 that thought "you're doing a heck of a job, Bushie"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113770/bush-presidency-closes-34-approval-61-disapproval.aspx

Arthur,

It wont happen. They say Bush was so dumb and Obama is the smartest president we have ever had. And when he screws up they say "well Bush did it" like that really puts people in their place. So basically you libs are admittig that Obama is really no better than the man you love to hate, GW Bush. If you actually look at it they are pretty similar, think about it.

So I am guessing each time someone at an embassy died, or when we got a report that later conflicted with information, we had mobs marching of Republicans claiming Bush needed to be impeached.

Oh wait, I'll stop living in the past. It didn't become important until January 20, 2009. My bad.

On a far more serious note, this is a terrible tragedy. After reading the breakdown of the incident it is interesting to note how the people inside went from "are the fires dying down" to "oh, the building is on fire, got it".

Outside of the report, and no matter how it was reported to us, it doesn't change the fact that people died and I have yet to see anyone on either side of the aisle, or in between the two aisles, cheering that on. For people throwing the argument that one side believes that governmental and service members are dying and that they see it as okay, you are going very far to put words into someone's mouth.

Bush blamed Clinton for 8 years.

From how I got it figured Obama has 4 years to go.

4 deaths under Obama......53 under Bush.

Gee, the Democrats are doing a much better job !!!

34% approval rating when he left. Did you miss that? Does that mean that there were so many democrats? I can tell you flat out I didnt approve of Bush in his second term but there was no way in hell John Money Bags Kerry would have done better.

Bush blamed Clinton for 8 years.

O come now, Eric, you just made that up. If not, please provide substantiated instances.

It looks like the sacrificial lambs have been sent to the slaughter. But I would not worry too much about these three people, they will land in a sweet job at some DC lobbying firm or government contractor. That is the way things work in Washington when there is a major screw up like Benghazi. A few of the underlings take the hit for the big boss who is really the one responsible for the decisions that lead to the screw up. Then the sacrificial lambs get a lot of under the table help to keep their careers intact in return for their "sacrifice" and business continues as usual.

Total incompetence from obumbo down. clinton gets a concussion conveniently so she can't testify. Does the liberal con game ever end???

How can one demand stricter gun control while gifting a new dictator 20 F-16s? How can one say increasing taxes must be done while spending millions of tax dollars on vacations? How can Americans be trustful of government when the government constantly proves its lack of honesty? You can banter back and forth over who is the least or most corrupt but it doesn't take away their corruption and it doesn't make the government honest. All you can do is what is right, not pretending what's wrong with another matters, while the wrongs you support are of no matter at all.

Eric-913730

Bush blamed Clinton for 8 years

How desperate you are, little "b***" to come up with this, only in your mind. Yes, Obama won but this is not about elections, this is about transparency and accountability, something this administration do not care.

Wow. A lot of selective memory and made up history on FR today. I don't know what movie you all are watching, but it sure doesn't bear any resemblance to the one I see on my screen.

It looks like the sacrificial lambs have been sent to the slaughter

Good one JS but I don't think Charlene is laughing. Maybe she will come clean and back the bus off her and right onto Hillary. But I'm betting you are right, they will give her whatever she wants for her silence. Only when she is old and bitter will she come clean and by then they will trash her with senility.

And to think none of this probably would've come to light if it weren't for the Republicans pushing for the truth on this matter despite the Left continually clamoring that Republicans were making this a party-line issue.

Glad to see something is being done in Washington. I've seen this administration 'circle-the-wagons' too many times just to save political face.

This is all silliness. We were attacked. Some good people died. In hindsight, there are, of course, things that could have been done better..there always are... we still have people, not Gods, in our government. ....but as usual Republicans just have to have useless witch hunts on everything so they never get anything accomplished. Nothing turns on a Republican more than to have something bad happen to our country so they can pretend to be scandalized.

At least this time it wasn't one of those silly sex scandals that have nothing to do with anything.

amazedandalarmed

Nothing turns on a Republican more than to have something bad happen to our country so they can pretend to be scandalized

So what they should do, stay silent and be complicit of this administration, allowing things like Benghazi and Fast and Furious pass without nobody notice thanks to the corrupt media bias. Have you ever think how many innocent Mexicans where killed by criminals, thanks to the weapon this Administration put in the hand of the Drug Cartel, I guess for you those lives do not count neither.

Benghazi. Let the party of anger and ignorance have their moment. Still smarting from losing an election that was somehow magically stolen from them by a bunch of "Urban Blacks" and "Illegal Aliens." The world is becoming a more liberal and progressive world and the conservative movement will eventually become a speck of dookie on a kleenex blowing down an alley in Detroit....

This is for you Oskar:

"Bush Blames Clinton Again

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Posted on Oct 12, 2006

Left: forbes.com/Right: time.blogs.com

George W. Bush, retreating to familiar ground, has blamed the Clinton administration for North Korea’s nuclear arsenal."

So at least 6 years, I'll do some more digging. Even with that Obama has 2 years left.

They will all have better jobs or appointments tomorrow.

After reading the "full" report, why is there no mention as to who gave the order to "stand down" to the contractors who sought permission to aid their countrymen?

And where is the mention of the "video" which was the OFFICIAL stance of the Administration up to and including the six times during the President's speech to the U.N. on the 25th of October (2 weeks later) in which he blamed the violence on an obscure You Tube video.

We are simply looking for answers for very simple questions. Not a bunch of "lackeys" getting repositioned in the Administration.

Can't anyone own up to a mistake?

This one was "misinformed"

This one is "out of the country"

This one has a "concussion"

Not I, Not I, Not I.

These are dark days.

History will tell.

Look Eric 913730, you are not quoting George W. Bush or anything he has stated. You are quoting the title of an article! Nothing in there is a quote from George W. Bush. It's an article that talks about the Bush administration working with the failed negotiations of a previous administration. Get you facts straight and shut up!

How many more are going to "jump ship" ? I wonder what they will get for their early "retirement" exit.

These folks need to man-up or woman-up instead of taking the EXIT door.

Wait a minute....the report blasted the Department of State and the HEAD of the Department of State is no other than.....Secretary Clinton. The BUCK does not stop with her but goes all the way to the Oval Office.

Yep, that 2:00 am red phone call coming into the White House will be automatically transferred to the U.N. Ambassador. //sarcasm//

Heck, and folks are putting Mrs. Clinton on a pedestal for a run in 2016. Good luck with that one.

I see the morons are out and crawling today. Anyone know how Eric Boswell got his job or who gave it to him or if he was even qualified to do it? I bet most of you have never been in charge or taken over a position that was already in place before you. Do you fire everyone or learn what they know how to do as you learn your new job? These jobs are one of a kind but for his job head of security I doubt 1 year in the military provided enough experience to even learn how to shine his boots. This is what electing morons like your selves have done for this country. Keep up the good work.

Wow, the RWNJ's smell blood in the water, regardless of quantity, quality, or identity, the feeding frenzy is on!

Facts are obviously irrelevant to you.

Excuse me but the buck stops at the guys who cut the budget for security...namely the House....they want their rich guys to have their tax breaks but they dont want to take responsibility for the effects of the programs they cut.

Viet Vet-981266

I dare say very few of the posters here have read the full report. And whay you wrote is true and to the point. Thanks

elaine-2138913

The budget was cut, but MORE dem voted to pass the bill then rep did, then the president SIGNED it as his approval... Does that count for anything?

Also as a side not, under oath in front of crongress C. Lamb stated that FUNDING WAS NOT THE PROBLEM. How can you change that and blame it on the Rep?

Excuse me but the buck stops at the guys who cut the budget for security

So I'm guessing when Ms Lamb said before congress there were no financial constraints that means nothing to you. You should fly your giant head to Washington and run our country because you seem to know things no one else does.

elaine-2138913

Excuse me but the buck stops at the guys who cut the budget for security...namely the House....

Elaine , do you know the word "priorities". Government waste millions of dollars . Just to give you an example.

WASHINGTON -- There are zombie banks, the zombie apocalypse, and now, according to Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), zombie homeland security programs that spend money without adequate oversight or cost control.

According to a new report by the Oklahoman, often a critic of Department of Homeland Security programs, the waste extends to a staged zombie apocalypse.

In that case, the report said, DHS authorized up to $1,000 a head for law enforcers to attend a five-day security conference at a "paradise" island getaway with security industry companies. The conference featured a simulated attack -- involving the undead -- as the centerpiece.

There is no excuses, sorry.

Eric J. Boswell is a 40 year Department of State civil servant who has served every president since entering the foreign service in 1972. He has served in the administrations of Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, George H.W Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush and Obama.

Charlene R. Lamb is a 25-year Department of State civil servant who has served every president since entering the diplomatic service in 1987. She has served in the administrations of Presidents Reagan, George H.W Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush and Obama.

The complete public service bios of Mr. Boswell and Ms. Lamb are available on the website of the United States Department of State, and both served impressive and distinguished careers entirely unrelated to partisan politics.

Insinuate that these two career civil servants were political lackeys if you wish, but the reality is we are losing 65 years of combined distinguished civil service experience in one of the most difficult, challenging and all too often dangerous areas of responsibility in our US Government.

Yes, we can say we had a failure on September 11, 2012 in Benghazi, Libya. We didn't get it right. That's a fact. Hard to dispute. We screwed up.

It is worth remembering that the day of this attack, which came without warning, it was also September 11 everyplace in the entire world.

It was September 11 at every one of the 294 physical embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions of the United States in every individual location across the world; 27 of those missions located in the Middle East and North Africa region, which is more than any other nation on Earth. Several of those other missions had been actively threatened by demonstrations over the prior 7-day period.

Individuals made decisions about where to place limited resources that day in response to active demonstrations, but we didn't get it right in Benghazi, .... and four of our own died there.

It is also worth remembering that on September 11, 2001 we didn't get it right here in America. That time we had eight months of warning, and renewed warnings just weeks before the attacks. Individuals chose not to heed the warnings .... and 2,996 of our own died here.

Perhaps it would be more worthy of us, as Americans, to remember that sometimes we will be less than perfect. It has happened before, and it is going to happen again. We will screw up. We will not get it right. We will not be perfect. And some of our own will die.

One thing however which might help us to reduce the number of future failures, and deaths of our own, is to put as much of our collective energies into finding actual solutions and improving our processes when we have failures ( based upon the difficult

lessons learned ) instead of wasting so much of our energies and limited resources on protracted partisan shouting, finger pointing and political demagoguery.

The current tone of partisan vitriol which has been continuous now for more than 3-months, is diverting attentions every single day which need to be focused on the job at hand; the world doesn't just stop being a dangerous place while we are all screaming and pointing fingers at each other.

How much of our limited human and financial resources, and for how long, do we continue to divert and redirect to task of explaining, and defending what has already happened, .... rather than keeping those resources focused on preventing what might happen tomorrow?

Perhaps we all need to dial-down the rhetoric, and grow up?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/19/state-benghazi-report_n_2330034.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

A consistently limited budget imposed by Congress, the report added, "had the effect of conditioning a few State Department managers to favor restricting the use of resources as a general orientation," which helps explain why the local security officials' calls for more staff was not immediately heeded.

When is Boehner going to resign for his failure to get necessary funding through the House? The Republicons outrage is completely phony. They care nothing about the deaths in Benghazi, other than for their usefulness as a weapon to attack Obama. That's why they spent so much time on bashing Susan Rice, who had nothing to do with Benghazi security and hardly any time asking questions about the security problems or proposing solutions to them.

Robert in Oregon: Please, do not forget to mention that due to the lack of accurate intelligence we engaged in a mistake that cost the lives of 4132 American servicemen. Was anyone ever found responsible for the intelligence gathering that led to the Iraqi invasion? Was ever anyone in the cabinet ever held accountable? I have a friend buried in Arlington and 3 wounded because of the 'mistakes', yet I have not found anyone responsible enough to say, "We screwed it up, sorry." And it isn't less important the deaths that occurred in Libya, what is despicable is that those who today scream for the administration's heads, are the same who then looked the other way when they found out that they were duped by the administration. So, what is their excuse?

Funny that NO ONE is going to be held RESPONSIBLE!!!

Here is more of the article "signofthetimes".

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/11/AR2006101101793.html

Even Sherlock Holmes knew how to infer.

Hahaha, move along folks, there's nothing to see here. Just like Fast and Furious, Solyndra, etc., this is just the rightwing desperately trying to find a scandal where there is none. As the president said in the debates, "proceed Governor" and ultimately this will make a face plant the same way Romney did.

And there is NO comparison to the real travesty that was the lies taking us into the unnecessary invasion of Iraq -- Remember the "mushroom cloud" intimation of nukes? Not just WMD, but friggin' nukes? Look at the ruination of Colin Powell because of his statement to the UN. Look at Condi Rice who even now tries to CYA her incompetence. Look at the information since like the Downing Street Memo just to name a few -- Freedom of Information my arse.

The only story is how the Dems closed down ACORN (yes, in a recent poll, a large percent of Republican voters said the 2012 election was stolen by ACORN -- though ACORN no longer exists! Yet look at GOP operations that WERE guilty of fraud in 2012!), Shirley Sherrod, etc. had to resign though guilty of nothing, and how Elizabeth Warren, and most recently Susan Rice have had to step away from nomination because the political cost was made outrageous by Republican sh!theads...

And whether it is resignation of Eliot Spitzer, or more recently Anthony Weiner, where oh where are the resignations of Republicans from David Vitter to Todd Akin, and all the nominations during Bush/Cheney that absolutely deserved to be filibustered like Alito to the SCOTUS but the Dems are douchebags like the Teapublicans...

You rightwing hypocrites have become so sickening in your self-righteousness, blind hatred, and most of all ignorance, how can you stand be be around yourselves? Ah shaddap already!

Correction, the above post saved before I could finish editing...

"the Dems are NOT douchebags like the Teapublicans" -- they have not abused the filibuster or blocked nominations at any level as we've seen from the GOP since 2008. And the Banghazi tragedy is nothing compared to the politics during Bush/Cheney, including the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame, or Alberto Gonzales of the DOJ, etc. You rightwingers either have short memories, selective memories, or more likely are just brainwashed lemmings.

I'd bet $ that these folk's resignation came from honor. Just like Rice. Rather than waste our children's futures with this continual republican political waste, resign and let the unhonorable republicans look the stain they prove to be.

You think about it, republicans have no future, just like their politics. Sheep being led to slaughter by their own leadership. Only in america. lol. Polarized to stupid.

Irish 21

Chris,

Yeah its funny when Americans are killed, dick. You libs really love yourselves, talk about a group that just cares about ME ME ME. Punk

The deaths are in no way funny. But moronic comments like yours are friggin hysterical. I cared so much about ME ME ME, that I spent 13 years in the service. How's that for selfish? You lemming.

Eric, Steamie, Chrisfromwherever and rockym -

Good job, guys! Your checks from POAC (Protect Obama @ Any Cost) should be in your mailboxes by Saturday morning.

Eric you are so full of it your eyes are turning brown. Obama is the worst president and history will prove that. It doesn't matter he's a two term president. Obama was elected by those that want to keep their entitlements and women who cared more about the vagina issues (free birth control) Sandra Fluke and the most uninformed voters that have ever went to a poll.

This is the story that Fox News carried for weeks that the liberal news media, including NBC, would not report for fear of the negative consequences that it could have on Barack Obama in the presidential election. We now have Hillary Clinton somewhere in a comma/concussion and says she is unable to appear before Congress on the Benghazi issue. The committee has now placed blame on the State Dept. of which Hillary Clinton heads-up, (Secretary of State).

The Democrats and the liberal media has been successful in hiding the killing of 4 Americans, due to the neglect of this administration to provide proper security, until after the election.

Shameful, disgraceful and a wake-up call for all those who are so critical of Fox News.

mpa-4893349

Eric, Steamie, Chrisfromwherever and rockym -

Good job, guys! Your checks from POAC (Protect Obama @ Any Cost) should be in your mailboxes by Saturday morning.

Another lemming. Find a cliff, asap and free us from your pathetic attempts to be witty.

Leaks? Kagan - Petraeus Gave Unpaid Analysts Unusual Access

http://www.newser.com/story/159581/petraeus-gave-gop-advisers-questionable-access.html

Civilians Fred and Kim Kagan worked for free in Afghanistan

By Kevin Spak, Newser Staff

Posted Dec 19, 2012 7:00 AM CST

(Newser) – Military lawyers are looking into a strange arrangement David Petraeus had with a husband-and-wife team of conservative think-tank analysts, who served as unofficial, unpaid de-facto senior advisers to him in Afghanistan, the Washington Post reports. Fred and Kim Kagan had top-level security clearance, desks in Petraeus' headquarters, and enjoyed priority travel across the war zone. Senior White House and Pentagon officials were unaware of the arrangement, but many others were. At one Kagan function back in Washington, Petraeus quipped, "There's some suspicion that there's a hand up my back, and it makes my lips talk, and it's operated by one of the Doctors Kagan."

The Kagans believed the US should shift to an offensive footing against the Haqqani network—and told commanders as much. "It created huge confusion," one senior military officer says. “Everyone assumed they were speaking for the boss.” Some generals praise the Kagans (one says they "did the work of 20 intelligence analysts") but others worried about their Washington connections, with some suspecting they funneled classified info to Republicans. "The situation was very, very weird," says one colonel. "It’s not how you run a headquarters." Even Fred Kagan admits the situation was "strange and uncomfortable" at times. "We were going around speaking our minds, trying to force people to think about things in different ways." Click to read the lengthy piece.

Civilian analysts gained Petraeus’s ear while he was commander in Afghanistan

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/civilian-analysts-gained-petraeuss-ear-while-he-was-commander-in-afghanistan/2012/12/18/290c0b50-446a-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html?tid=pm_pop

By comparison Obama has done much better.

You want to play that game? OK. How many have died in Afghanistan under Obama compared to Bush? What's the national debt now compared to 4 years ago? Remember...Obama said the economy was his in his first year in office.

True Patriot....

yep, nothing to see here, except the fact that this administration CANT stop lying. They are like children, acting, but worse....they are adults. Hillary....really? Oh it must be time for me to testify, I better fake an injury or amnesia...maybe Bill can coach me on how to lie like he did on TV.

Yep- don't watch Fox news, you wouldnt want any of this covered up Horse HOCKEY coming back to bite you in 2016.

Anyone that doesnt think the almighty "O" didnt know... is a believer in BS. Now we know why this crap didnt come ouit before the election. THINK patriot, are you an American Patriot, or a USSA patriot, communist idiot in disguise, my guess is the latter.

Eric-913730

Chief sitting "bull" was Romney. Largest pile of "bull" yet.

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Eric I think you are the one that can't let go of the election. You just seem to hang on to spew your hate. Let it go and let everyone get on with life. Please, please, please top the hate.

@arguesforsport

You want to play that game? OK. How many have died in Afghanistan under Obama compared to Bush?

Approx 1,300 deaths after Obama was inaugurated.

Now, how many died in Iraq in total? 4,488

How many of those were under Obama? 257

Who started both wars? Bush

Who ended one and is ending the other? Obama

Actually this report sort of sickens me. When ths insident happened Romney accused the president of lack of leadership. The media and dDemocratic public screamed bloody murder that he was overstepping. Because of that Romney dropped Bengazi on the campain trail. Now that Obama can't run again of course the truth is finally coming out about this President. He is not a leader.All he is is an entertainer.A speaker. Beyond smooth words he is the biggest failure in our history. Had this subject be forced to the fore front perhaps people would not have voted for him and more truths could come out but Obama was able to smooth talk his way out of it at the time. He actully took full responsibility. and as such should resign himself in disgrace just as Richard Nixon did. The only real problem with that is we would get smilelin Joe Biden as a replacement.

You Obama supporters can spew all the hate at me you want but look at the truth and see what this President really is before you do.

Funny how many US Embassies have been under attack over the last 50 years and the right wing gets all bent out of shape over this one. From 2001 through 2008 there were 8 attacks on US Embassies with many people killed but you nut cases on the right get all bent out of shape over this one.

Karachi, Pakistan, June 14, 2002, February 28, 2003, March 15, 2004, and March 2, 2006:The string of bombings and attempted bombings outside the U.S. consult in Karachi were thought to be in retaliation for the War on Terror in Afghanistan, and later Iraq. The first bomb in June 2002 was a suicide bomber, who killed 12 and injured 51 people. In February 2003, a gunman killed two police officer and injured five others outside the consulate. In March 2004, an attempted bombing was stopped when police discovered 200 gallons of liquid explosives in the back of a truck. In March 2006, another suicide bomber killed six people outside a nearby Marriott Hotel.

Tashkent, Uzbekistan, July 30, 2004: The U.S. and Israeli embassies were targeted by suicide bombers. Two security guards were killed.

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, December 6, 2004: Militants breached the outer wall of the U.S. consulate and began shooting, but did not enter the consulate. Five civilians and the gunmen were killed. Ten people were wounded.

Damascus, Syria, September 12, 2006: Three gunmen were killed after they tossed grenades over the embassy's outer wall and a car bomb exploded outside the embassy. A Syrian security guard and a Chinese diplomat also died.

Athens, Greece, January 12, 2007: A rocket-propelled grenade was fired into the front of the U.S. embassy around 6 am in the morning. No one was killed or hurt. A Greek terrorist group called "Revolutionary Struggle" claimed responsibility.

Istanbul, Turkey, July 9, 2008: Kurdish Turks open fired around 11 am, killing six people and injuring one. The three men had suspected Al-Qaeda links, but this was never proven.

San'a, Yemen, September 7, 2008: 19 people died and at least 16 were injured when a group of men disguised at police attacked the outer security rim of the U.S. embassy. Al-Qaeda affiliate Islamic Jihad of Yemen claimed responsibility.

Where's the outcry over these people being killed while Bush was in office? Is the outcry over Bengnazi phony and political? Or is Benghazi different now because a Democrat president is in office? That would be my guess.

The assistant secretary of state for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security has resigned and three other officials have been relieved of duty after a report criticized the State Department over the attacks on U.S. diplomats in Benghazi, Libya, the department said late Wednesday.

They'll be fine. They will be given jobs elsewhere in the government for this sacrifice and no one will be the wiser. Probably even get a raise. My prediction is that Hillary will come down with an episode of transient global amnesia due to the bump on the head and ensuing concussion. Kinda like the Rose Law firm billing records. At least with this she'll have a medical condition to support her memory loss. This is almost farcical in its similarity to a day time soap opera.

Another four pushed on their swords to save the failed leadership that we now have.

What I found curious about the 'Independent' Report on the Benghazi fiasco is that it concluded that 'mistakes were made', but then later concluded that nobody acted inappropriately - in other words;

"Mistakes were made that led to the 4 American deaths, but nobody made them".

Approx 1,300 deaths after Obama was inaugurated.

Now, how many died in Iraq in total? 4,488

How many of those were under Obama? 257

Who started both wars? Bush

Who ended one and is ending the other? Obama

We were talking about Afghanistan and Iraq was ended on Bush's timetable....Obama just took credit for what was already set in motion. I guess we are going to ignore the International community begging for Saddam to be stopped from mass killings of his own people (remember the Kurd villages that were being wiped out by those now non-existent WMDs?) or the fact that the entire USA, including you I would bet, was all for the war on terror after 911. But those little tidbits don't fit into today's agenda now that you have a messiah.

Hmm...so if security was inadequate they should be allowed to keep their jobs?

Until Hillary is questioned there will be blanks in the final report. If justice is to be served obama should be questioned as well, but I'm pretty sure his plans in the near future will be on the golf course in Hawaii! The same cant be said of the families of the 4 dead Americans!

Have you forgotten that last February the Secretary of State warned that when Congress cut the security budget at State it would be trouble?

Remember that great 'take charge' democrat... Harry Truman...

What was it he said?

Oh yeah... 'The buck stops here!'

Maybe not with Obama...

He's taken responsibility for Benghazi

Bull $*!%, WHEN?

BTW, statements like your side and our side show the breakdown of this country.

@ Bickering

Your right,

Obama openly said "the buck stops with you"

SS,

When did he take responsibility for Benghazi?

So much for his "Man of the Year" award. Better to blame it on the Rice.

watch what you say Hillary is going to be your next president...

And you thought Obama is bad wait for her..

If she gets a chance Obama I think will have this country in marshal law lock down before his term is up..

You all need to go back and check who cut the funding for security. Hint: the party starts with an R.

jon

they denied funding for civilian contractors doing what our soldiers can and should do not the locals or civies so why would they resign?

Zapper you are the reason the word stupid is in the dictionary.

funding for security has nothing to do with this there is no funding for this they had guards but needed more help and the DEMS did not send it..

Get your facts right before posting lies..

SS, doesn't taking responsibility for something usually involve some form of repercussion? Obama can, and does, say a lot. But he never truly takes responsibility.

If she gets a chance Obama I think will have this country in marshal law lock down before his term is up..

Kinda like how President Obama was supposed to have us under martial law already...or how he was supposed to cancel elections, right?

Right.

Remember that great 'take charge' democrat... Harry Truman... What was it he said? Oh yeah... 'The buck stops here!' Maybe not with Obama...

I think what the current POTUS meant was 'The buck starts here'; but only in regards to spending.

zapper,

The vote to reduce that funding was BI-PARTISAN with 149 Dems and 147 Repubs voting yes?

In case “math is hard” I’ll point it out for you that with the repub majority that means that Dems voted yes both by a numerical majority and by a larger percentage than Repubs.

For once we can only hope that John McCain is at his vitriolic worst when he finally gets to question Hillarity Clinton about what she let happen on her watch! This should guarantee that by leaving office in complete disgrace no amount of 'spin' will put her back in the limelight. The USA may well have credible female candidates in 2016 for POTUS, but they will NOT include HRC and thank the Lord for THAT.

She wanted the football, the pass was right on the numbers, and standing with her hand-picked staff right it in the end zone SHE DROPPED it.

Da Noid

I have not heard anything about being in martial law already or cancel elections, I am going by what I think will happen based on this shooting and banning of guns. I just don't see many gun owners just handing them over and feel there may be issues when it happens. They are just my thoughts...

The libs are really scrambling today. Nothing to say but insults. Seeeking Sanity, you need to seek some theropy. You are nothing more than a liberal drone......all you do is repeat lefty lies. Do us all a favor and bury your head back in the sand.

People are delusional if they think the Republicans passed a cut in funding without the support of the Senate, and signature of the President. Who did what to whom again? This is a clear leadership problem including the attempted misdirection by the White House toward a little know video and the producers arrest as a smoke screen to the real issues. Now three insiders are fired...I mean resign under duress...I mean resign and you all tend to ignore the connections. This is evident in your parties ability to run a country without a budget...that is working so well for all of us.

Next

Oh, the buck most assuredly stops at Obama - he's a money grubbing, over spending fool! The blame however, that's always someone else's.

Irish21 - Agreed, and I'm a lib....

makes me want to change party affiliations!

Seeking Therapy, hilarious!

Lil Michelle,

Thanks for correcting my spelling error with out making it a big deal. We all know InSanity would be all over that one. Also saw her trashing you the other day on a thread.........my guess is you arent far left enough for InSanity.

Why should we increase funding for the State Department when they are spending thousands and thousands every year to restore historic structures around the world. Sure it's a nice gesture, but it's kind of like your kids asking you to pay their car insurance because they need to pay their tanning salon subscription and tattoo artist.

...lists $72,600 that went to an Episcopal basilica in Macedonia to help with the conservation of early Christian frescoes. AFA says that a mosque in Pakistan got $67,000 — actually it was $67,500 — but doesn’t mention an $81,990 grant for "Restoration of the Late 17th‐Century Church of the Icon of the Mother of God of the Sign" in the Russian Federation, or $94,827 to restore a high altar and cloister of an 18th century convent in Guatemala City. Among the State Department’s "large grants" is $625,000 for the Church of the Holy Redeemer in Turkey.

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/funding-mosques-overseas/

So hurray for the anyone who voted not to give them more money. The problem is they should have taken this budgeted money and things like this to pay for essential security!

Lil Michelle - you've never been a liberal in your life. You've BARELY been human. And, no matter how much I seek, there is NO sanity when it comes to poster like you and Irish! You two represent the best the far right has - pretty pathetic when you think of it!

Irish - you and Lil Michelle will be very happy together - clearly you share the same brain cell!

well Seeking it would appear Irish and lil Michelle have something you dont. Brain cell if even only one. Green looks good on you Seeking.

I guess Seeking Sanity has yet to find it, or his/her Xanax.

Certainly hash not been able to lay hands on a constructive statement...

Hypocritical Republicans !

Where was your outrage during the Bush administration.

Under Bush, 53 deaths, 90 injuries in embassy attacks.

This is all political theatre.

You lost the national election, move on.

By comparison Obama has done much better.

Obama says he "owns the economy" years ago but continues to point fingers.

To protect Obama, Hillary says she is responsible for Benghazi, yet it is other people who loose their jobs.

Just Democrats being Democrats (i.e. total failures desperate for personal power at any cost to anybody)

Eric-913730

"Hypocritical Republicans !"

And yet none of them made repeated requests to Bush for security, and Bush never spat in American's faces by attempting to pretend a You Tube video was responsible.

To be "hypocritical" you would have to actually be comparing the same actions.

P.S.

Speaking of hypocrisy... where is your latest complaint about Obama raising the debt ceiling? or how about Obama keeping Gitmo open?

You are always good for a laugh Eric.

Actually Pjam they did make requests for security. Go look for yourself. Bush didn't even acknowledge these deaths. He didn't welcome the bodies home, Obama did in this case.

You don't have to have the same actions to be a hypocrite.

Republicans have made it quite impossible for Obama to close Gitmo, I look forward to a Republican President getting to do the same thing.

You as always are more entertaining than me.

Eric - "You lost the national election, move on."

Do you think Romney is reading your drivel?

The election had 2 primary candidates, people who are not party-obedient sheep recognize that, clearly you do not.

EROCK17

He's taken responsibility for Benghazi

Bull $*!%, WHEN?

BTW, statements like your side and our side show the breakdown of this country.

“What my attitude on this is is if we find out there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job, they’ll be held accountable,” said Obama in an interview with MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough, according to a report on that network’s website.

“Ultimately as Commander-in-Chief I am responsible and I don’t shy away from that responsibility," Obama added.

Don't you just hate it when facts pop out and kick you in the f*cking teeth? Next time ditch the rhetoric and you might not look the fool.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/27/14749065-obama-assails-romneys-massachusetts-record?lite

Insanity,

Funny that you say that we cant think for ourselves when all you do is insult people because they dont think the same way as you do. You read one news site and think you are a political guru but I have never seen you post anything but insults, no substance and no facts. You say you are from Chicago? My guess is you live in River North or Lincoln Park, nice lilly white areas where alot of the rich live. Since you are so liberal how about you head down to the south side and talk to all the gangbangers about turning in their ILLEGAL guns. You can tell them you feel their pain because you voted for Obama.

See what happens when I acknowledge your stupid posts, I go way off topic.

Why are all you folks fighting the political battle here?? The question that Andrea Mitchel et. al. refuse to ask is "who refused to send those in Behghazi the help that was requested????" That who should be hung out to dry!

By comparison Obama has done much better.

comparing Obama to Bush II? setting the bar low arent we...outstanding, not much faith from an acolyte

Eric: I think you are mistaken in your count. You forgot the 4132 American servicemen that perished fighting for a lie that no one in the previous administration admitted to have sent mistakenly to their demise. We found no WMD, we found out that we had deficient intelligence, and yet not a single member of the previous administration even resigned. Not even out of respect for the servicemen that their incompetence sent to their deaths. And all the self-proclaimed righteous demanding the resignation of the administration make me puke. Hypocrites that were in favor of a war and were not even capable of criticizing the administration when they realized that they took them for a ride.

For all you little trolls and big ones, too. Check again. Check your numbers. Check where all the funding went. Then give us a great big kiss. R for the party of NO. BTW, it was Tripoli that was the worry spot, not Benghazi. Benghazi was left out in the cold. That's why what happened, happened there. Sleight of hand doesn't make it. Benghazi and Tripoli are two different places, no matter how bad your geographic knowledge is.

@pjam, No, I don't think Romney is reading any of my statements. He's probably trying to decide what kind of car elevator to get.

Seeking Sanity has far to go . . .

yes, she is a jerk.

Speaking of hypocrisy... where is your latest complaint about Obama raising the debt ceiling? or how about Obama keeping Gitmo open?

Hypocrisy is pretending Obama is the only president to raise the debt ceiling or that he raised it more. Congress raised the debt ceiling 18 times under Reagan and 8 times under Bush. Its only been 3 times under Obama and never been an issue until Obama became president. I know you expect more from a democrat than republicans but not even democrats can work miracles. It wasn't until Obama was elected republicans pretended raising the debt ceiling was something new. And what about gitmo? Hard to blame Obama for not closing it down without blaming Bush for putting them there to start with. Obama as a candidate had no way to know the complications closing it might have. As a responsible president when shown facts it wasn't practical to straight shut it down he relented.

Why are all you folks fighting the political battle here?? The question that Andrea Mitchel et. al. refuse to ask is "who refused to send those in Behghazi the help that was requested????" That who should be hung out to dry!

The letter dated the day of the attack asking for additional security was written to the Libyan government not ours. Under Libyan law marines can only defend the Embassy not consulates. The defense for the consulate was provided by Libya and contractors. Stevens made the choice to travel to the consulate on his own knowing he'd be limited to contractors and Libyan security on the 9-11 anniversary.

Lmao.........Seeking is my namesake! All I have to say on this is "IF" Mr. Obama said that he takes blame and the buck stops here, then why are these lower level people fired? If my VP mess,s up he gets fired not me. I provide her with good solid info, if she chooses to ignore it and it costs millions I dont get blamed and fired.....she does. Hillary should at least have a mark in ther service record for being incompetant. I know you liberals (specially you women) want her to be the next president....so does Bill he loves a good flavored Corona under the Desk of power!

Shesafatone .....The first thing that came to mind when you said "IF".. was the last great and powerful OZ, I mean Democrat Bill Clinton when he had his neck in the noose and said " it depends on what your definition of what "IS" is"............

Nope...it couldn't have come out before the election because it's all one great big conspiracy!

MWAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!

Da Void...

Another inflicted with the JJ syndrome. Boy it's hard to not drink the koolaid.

Boy it's hard to not drink the koolaid.

OH, YEAH!!!

This administration has been telling lies and hiding the truth since day one. Fast & Furious, Benghazi... on and on and on...

But guess what... WE VOTED THE LIARS BACK INTO OFFICE SO WE GET WHAT WE DESERVE!

Dumba$$e$

Sick - oh yeah - we could have, instead, had the CONSTANT LIAR Romney! Dumb@ss!

seekingsanity

You take the cake don't you..

As far as I know Romney did not say he was going to run a transparent White house like A$$ Obama did.

And if you ask me he has hidden everything so far..

And soon more of Obama's lies and deceitfulness will show and then we see what you will say...

Wait I know what you will say..

Bush did it......

Mike there isn't enough do overs in the world to of have gotten Mitt Romney elected, No one liked him. He set right there in the last Debate and agreed with everything Obama has done overseas. Wasn't anything he would do different. And Maybe the reason they didn't press the matter more is because it was Rep's that cut the funding for security for such things. How do you think that was going to make Paul Ryan look? If there were a do over, Obama would win even bigger. Might be better to let sleeping dogs sleep.

SeekingSanity

Sick - oh yeah - we could have, instead, had the CONSTANT LIAR Romney! Dumb@ss!

Can anyone interpret what this lunatic is saying?

It is a little flattering that EVERY time I post something she has to jump right on it (kind of stalker-like)... and like the 12 yr old she is... she calls me names to show her affection....

But I am really getting tired of trying to decipher her mumblings!

lasertroll - your name is very appropriate. Nothing more needed!

Sick - no, unfortunately lunatics like you are too difficult to possibly interpret - which is why most of us don't even bother with your blithering comments!

Yeah; let's talk about the 200 Marines that RayGun got killed.

Come on Seeking Sanity Romney didn't want to tip his hand before he was elected. He might of had to go through with, well I guess we will never know, through with what.

SeekingSanity

Sick - no, unfortunately lunatics like you are too difficult to possibly interpret - which is why most of us don't even bother with your blithering comments!

As predictable as the sunrise...

And once again... she totally did not get the post I made, but did take the opportunity to pour a little more love on me :-D

Isn't it ironic that she says

most of us don't even bother with your blithering comments!

US? You are the one commenting on MY comments! Every one of them! So in reality... you don't quite fit into that anonymous group called 'US' that you refer to.

IRONIC don't you think?

XOXOXOX

SS

Just to let you know cancer kids in the hospital I visit gave me the name about 16 years ago.

I dressed up like a troll doll back then it was what the kids wanted.

So I ask not to pick on the name it means so much more than your stupidity could understand.

This could have come out at any time and it wouldn't have changed the election whatsoever. Anyone stupid enough to have voted for him the first time, and then the second time is not smart enough to really understand the ramifications of the Benghazi situation, and probably doesn't care to.

One more thing SS the one that gave me the name she was dumbed of by her parent when she was 5 and never came back her and I bonded because I could not see how a father and a mother would do this to a child.

She passed away 3 years later.

So please don't....

Lol dumped not dumbed see you got me upset already..

Funny how all this couldn't have come out BEFORE the election.

Kind of like the unpaid illegal alien registered sex offender intern in Senator Bob Menendez' office. He was reported but nothing was done until after the election:

Authorities in Hudson County notified ICE agents in early October that they suspected Sanchez was an illegal immigrant who was a registered sex offender and who may be eligible to be deported. ICE agents in New Jersey notified superiors at the Homeland Security Department because they considered it a potentially high profile arrest, and DHS instructed them not to arrest Sanchez until after the November election, one U.S. official told the AP. ICE officials complained that the delay was inappropriate, but DHS directed them several times not to act, the official said…

It did come out before the elections, Obama won anyway, and it wouldn't have made a difference. Why you ask?

Because in terms of comparison Obama has done much better than Bush at protecting embassies.

Under Bush, 53 deaths, 90 injuries in embassy attacks.

lasertroll - if what you posted is true then you are to be commended. Anything one does for a child in need is great. I don't like your comments but it appears you have a good heart.

Eric, sometimes ... you are such a loser ! Bush has not been President for about 4 years now and ALL you can do is to try and weakly focus on something you would rather talk about as an alternative to talking about the SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE !

This article deals with MASSIVE failures by Obama's State Department with the Benghazi disaster ... and related coverup ! Try to stay on topic if you have the "balls" to do so !

Finally, a NICE comment from SS @3.19... should I faint ?

Jim - Eric is a master at cutting and pasting his same line of BS in every single comment on this article. How in world do we expect the American citizens that support Obama to stop blaming the GOP when Obama himself won't stop? How do we expect them to take personal accountability for any of their actions when Obama himself will not?

I did stay on topic. Obama 4 embassy deaths, Bush 53 embassy deaths. Republicans had 13 times more embassy deaths than Democrats. Who is doing a better job with embassy management.

Eric/Chuck - the blame game was put on hold until after the election. Real details hitting the media were delayed until after the election. Romney stepped in on the minor detail about the President using the word 'terror' in that news conference, which in no way meant that his administration publicly embraced the terrorist connection, nor did we ever find out why they refused to call it what is was for weeks thereafter. Even with Romney's gaffs, he would have been much closer, if not winning, if the full conversation were allowed to happen prior to the election. Regardless of which group makes tough choices on budgets, security is the job of the administration. If funding is needed, they should take any 'green' program or voter block program (free this, free that) and fund the security. Period.

Sick of the Bickering, it is funny how they have everyone on ignore and yet find time to respond to said ignored comments. Something about blithering idiots.

Democrat and Republican are rival teams vying for power. If you're wearing their jerseys and seated in their section you're not supporting the country, you're supporting the games.

Funny how all this couldn't have come out BEFORE the election. This should be enough for a do-over on the election. Just my opinion, but I hate that we have this level of information burying, then timely disclosure. very sad.

This happened almost 2 months before the election and all the points made today were made before. Most sane Americans know that whether it was called a riot or a terrorist attack the 4 people were already dead. All the information talked about today were brought up before the election. This was Romneys big play to make us think Obama was somehow responsible and only RWNJ's pretend to believe it.

Eric, sometimes ... you are such a loser ! Bush has not been President for about 4 years now and ALL you can do is to try and weakly focus on something you would rather talk about as an alternative to talking about the SUBJECT OF THE ARTICLE !

This article deals with MASSIVE failures by Obama's State Department with the Benghazi disaster ... and related coverup ! Try to stay on topic if you have the "balls" to do so !

Finally, a NICE comment from SS @3.19... should I faint ?

Jim: You don't see the relevance of people pointing out the different standard you on the right hold Obama versus Bush? That's the problem when you neither see nor cared when Bush failed to defend Embassies, the twin towers or the Pentagon yet think 4 people killed under Obama is such a great travesty you show your judgement is based on nothing but hate. At least instead of deflecting questions try answering honestly why Obama should be held to such high accountability for Benghazi but Bush escapes blame for Embassy deaths and 9-11 on his. Unless you can no one except your fellow haters will agree. 399 Marines died in Lebanon from a terrorist attack under Reagan did you call for his impeachment?

She is to appear before Congress on Thursday.

wahoo, keep up will ya? She isn't going to show because of a "concussion" suffered when she "fainted" because of having the flu.

Hey, anyone need a bridge?

You bet Talk to the Hand are you giving the special government discount for it.

I can guarantee you, Talk, that everything or anything she says will be inadmissible due to her "sudden" concussion disability - she can sing like a bird, but get shot down because "she's just addled" by her injury - mark my words!!!!

Can't get rid of them. You see through Obama what it brings. An "oppressed" person in a place of power handing out the perks he thinks he always should have had under the guise of "a fair shot" when indeed it is all the things people, in their own minds, think they "deserve" just because they exist.

I pity people like you because you have to live with yourself EVERY day!

Please pass those same condolences on to your hubby will ya? Of course, maybe it is okay to have a sheep following a public figure with so much adoration. Keeps you off his case.

And I don't hate the man. I don't like what he stands for. He is just another politician doing what he thinks benefits all when indeed it is creating more widespread lack of self reliance. Sorry you have to lash out at me so severely every time I post as sometimes I actually enjoy reading what you write. Your "bodyguard of the POTUS" stance is getting to be a bit much.

Talk - that's the best ya got? No surprise there - you truly are a small, little person! How disgusting and sad to be you!

Talk - and your constant attacks against the President put you in the group with Sick, Ben, etc. When you post objectively - then you'll be worth reading. Until then, you come across EXACTLY as I posted.

hahaha... more hate and anger from the Insane one...

If she would type in all caps and bold font... I would swear she was Bev!

Give it a rest already Seeking. It's getting old.

Sick - I see you and notsofunnygirl think alike. Enough said - and that's NOT a compliment!

notsofunnygirl - I have NEVER seen you post anything of any value - just your one line putdowns of me and anyone else who isn't in the gutter with filth like you. No different today I see - even the rats avoid you!

She forgot her meds this morning...has anyone got some Valiums for SS ?

Maybe Santa Claus will bring her a present for Christmas ... a new personality !

Merry Christmas SS !! If anyone dares to criticize Obama, she takes it quite personally.

Seeking, can you prove any of the things you saw Obama did? We cant cause he has not released any documents. I for one believe most of the things we have been told about his life but I cant trust him cause he wont let us see the truth. Why hide all those documents. I can only think of one reason to hide them. Something in those documents would have made it hard for him to get elected. One last question. Was he raised by a single parent or by his grandparents. There are two diff rent stories that he has told us. Like I said how can you trust him.

SeekingSanity

Sick - I see you and notsofunnygirl think alike. Enough said - and that's NOT a compliment!

notsofunnygirl - I have NEVER seen you post anything of any value - just your one line putdowns of me and anyone else who isn't in the gutter with filth like you. No different today I see - even the rats avoid you!

Now THAT is a classy, intellectual post!

;-)

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Chad,

You need to understand that the liberals here at FR are total hypocrites. For example: For months and months they claimed that Romney would not release his tax returns so there must be 'something' there to prove some insane point they kept repeating.

NOW... Obummer refuses to release documents, critical to a government investigation (on national security) and they defend his hiding the docs... saying there is nothing there to hide.

(btw... we heard them say the same thing when he hid the requested docs associated with the Fast & Furious investigation.)

Repeating patterns... hmmmm....

Seeking,

You are the small minded or should I say narrow minded one. You assume a lot, and than attack people on your assumptions.

Perfect example is your post 6.2.

When you post objectively, then you'll be worth reading.

That's classic.

Seeking is a seriously demented person as is everyone who cries racism when we hold Black Americans to the same standard we do whites. He then goes on to make a big deal about Obama going to Columbia and Harvard and yet Obama refuses to release his transcripts. No its not because he was a below average student, as we already know that from his prior failed attempt at college. He won't release them because they would show that after his illegal trip on a foreign passport to attend "camp" in Pakistan he applied and was admitted to both schools as a foreign exchange student.

Ya know I don't post much, but I read a lot and what I get out of reading 'sick' and 'talk' and your blame Obama for everything ilk is that you are so biased that you are competely unwilling to see reality for what it is. Life is much more about gray than black and white and while ultimately President Obama is, as he HAS stated, ultimately responsible, (you probably never heard him say that because your 'go to' media is Faux), his actual control over the events sweeping the world are pretty minimal and as has been pointed out here countless times we, the US are engaged in MANY areas that are of questionable security and those people who are there are at risk. The fact is in Libya it was known that we were trying to keep as low a presence as possible to aboid the look of an overly armed presence which would absoluteley have undermined what Stevens was trying to achieve in Libya. So take all this other BS and recognize $%^& happens when we have people in dangerous places.

Skibum, you are the people we all laugh at. Birthers, transcript release fools. The GOP will never win when the TRUMP army speaks their mind boggling idiocy.

while ultimately President Obama is, as he HAS stated, ultimately responsible, (you probably never heard him say that because your 'go to' media is Faux),

Actually everyone here has heard him say it. Now we're waiting for him to live it.

George,

I heard the president quote Truman... as he proved with his actions... (blocking investigations until AFTER the election) it was just words. Oh and a nice photo-op... you know... just like the one or two or three he made by wiping his tears for the children of Newtown.

Sickening!

Nonetheless, we DID have boots on the ground and armed drones in the air to help defend our citizens... and he watched (probably like Fisty does... with popcorn)

Gosh Seeking, that Duke education really pays off for you. Didn't they teach you that diversity is a good thing?

Good discussion points are continually debased by you with vile comments. You my dear, are just a joke. But I do get a good laugh from this libby site.

We did not have boots on the ground that could have gotten there anywhere near in time, that is just bs. Plus are we willing to make an overt ground offensive in another Muslim Country? Again quit being black and white and think of the nuances and the outcomes from different policy decisions. Yeah it is really a shi^^y outcome, we lost really good people.

As far as Newtown, your an absolute ASS&OLE if you don't think it brought nearly everyone to tears. You are just another hater.

noteverfunnytramp - and yet you have absolutely NOTHING to say but putdowns of me. I have NEVER seen you even ATTEMPT to post anything of value - but I think there's a reason for that! And, it's painfully clear to everyone. Now go crawl back under your rock!

Seeking Sanity: How charming - you actually pulled the typical race card without actually mentioning the word race! However, still not bold and fresh stance - the race card is long dead!

Check the report out to see if we had boots on the ground or an ARMED drone, all that is BS! Read what the bi-partisan committee found. Then try and figure out based upon that, with the concern over a trap, why the people with the hard decisions to make, made those decisions based upon the facts in front of them. No conspiracy, just a shi$%y situation that cost good people their lives in a very dangerous part of the world.

Seeking is a hoot! Where else can you find such a bigot who is so enamored with herself that only she has the answers for everything.

You're correct though Seeking, I don't post anything of value. You have no values and would NEVER acknowledge a vadid discussion that you don't agree with.

You're playing the race card whenever a disagreement happens that you can't place a valid arguement to. Could you be the Bev with another log in name? Several of you libs have many different ones that you use.

On one hand, you are critical of Romney, as if the election race was still happening. But darn anyone that is critical of the annointed one. Is the Republican party having issues today - sure, and what's wrong with that? Change is good and you should have learned that at Duke.

Will the Republicans be blamed for going over the cliff? Certainly, no matter what they do for the Progressives need to go over the cliff to fund big government. Blame it on Bush, or blame it on the GOP or the teabaggers as you refer to us. The additional $80B or so will not change anything for big gov. They will spend it more rapidly than it can be received.

Be critical of the proposed plan B - Nancy is critical of it, and it's a plan she previously proposed.

Let's be real - Obama needs the money, rates will rise, but conservatives will be at fault. Get ready to pay more and thank the Obama for it!

Let's be real - Obama needs the money, rates will rise, but conservatives will be at fault. Get ready to pay more and thank the Obama for it!

Of course conservatives will be blamed for it. Romney excited the tea party by talking about cutting social programs funding by 10% which would have saved 60 billion a year at the same time he cut revenue 500 billion a year, spent 200 billion more on the military each year and restarted the space program at 50 billion or so a year and you wonder why most of the country wasn't buying Romney's line. What this country needs is someone fiscally responsible not fiscally conservative. Fiscally responsible is trying to spend less than you take in while fiscally conservative means cutting taxes and spend whatever you want. Why is it those on the right bash Obama so much on spending when he hasn't instituted a single major new program that wasn't paid for and most spending is funding Bush's tax cuts and programs and wars? At least Obama pays for what he implements like Obamacare. Bush never funded anything and Romney promised more of the same.

Nonetheless, we DID have boots on the ground and armed drones in the air to help defend our citizens... and he watched (probably like Fisty does... with popcorn)

Another conspiracy theory and you RWNJ's wonder why you lost. You can add this to his birth certificate, school records, muslim list. When you spew your irrational hate you don't gain support with anyone sane at least. Keep the hate coming and become more and more irrelevant.

Thanks Chuck People want to blame someone in a matter about which they know very little.

Our Embassies are not fortresses, nor are any Embassies. The host country HAS TO protect all embassies.

Dont even try to pretend that this is due to security budget cuts!

You childish people will NEVER take the blame for your f'ups will you!

The security was there...

They new what was happening ahead of time...

They had numerous requests for assistance...

They had security personnel asking to go in and assist...

Those personnel were told to stand-down.

FOR 7 HOURS THEY WATCHED AS THE VICTIMS WERE SLAUGHTERED!

This was certainly NOT a budget issue! You @!$%#s will do anything to avoid taking responsibility for anything!

THE BUCK STOPS WHERE MR. PRESIDENT?

Bad bob. Thanks. Sick. Now your just foolish. You know what we would have had if there were more people there at the time of the Attack. More people dead. If what you say is true witch I doubt, then this might of been a set up paid for by Romney. Reagan did that to win against Carter with the failed attempt to rescue the men from Iran. What is a few dead men when it can buy you an election. Romney sure seemed to know just what happened just right after the attack. Remember he stuck his foot right in that big mouth of his. Then when someone asked him were he got his information from, then he knew he had better drop it. This Smacks of Romney and the Rep's Generals that hate President Obama. Just like Reagan/ Carter. Those Choppers were sabotaged by our own people.

Chuck...

Now just WHO is being foolish? Armed drones were flying above the fray... and not one was employed in the defense of our citizens.

Again, don't give me that bull@!$%# about budget issues... especially since it is no defense of your president. Read above. Or better yet... do your own research. Dems voted for the budget cut in bigger numbers than the Repubs.

No... we had armed drones, boots on the ground, and numerous requests for help.

Oh yeah, we had one other thing... a room full of democrats watching it all go down - for SEVEN hours!

When did Paul Ryan become sole leader of America? Could it be that you have absolutely no idea how Government functions? No Obama voter does they just wait for the banking card.

BTW Chuck...

Your post contains one of the most insane conspiracy theories I have EVER heard... Did you actually say that Reagan concocted the failed Iranian hostage rescue... just to win the election?

WHEW! You are out there my man! hahahaha!!!

(oh yeah... your grammar could use a quick fix too... the word is WHICH not WITCH! - unless there was a broom involved! hahahaha!)

I read the unclassified report.

No where in the report did the questions appear: who was in the situation room during the event, what actions were taken, or not taken and by whom.

These situations are logged, filmed and available for transparancy.

Where did the buck stop Mr. President?

Unfortunately, these questions may never be answered. There is NO inquiring media in the US anymore, and the more time that goes on without answers will be swept under the rug.

Chuck: Sick was right, the Iran fiasaco was under Carter. Reagan on the other hand concocted the sale of weapons to Iran in order to use the money to back the contras against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. When it blew, they used Ollie as a scapegoat to avoid staining the actor... And then went out of whack when the money ran out and the Contras started selling drugs to support their movement, and the Mexicans took the business over from the Colombians...

Terrorist attacks have happened under every recent president. Reagan sent marines to Lebanon and 399 marines died when this contingent all housed in the same building were killed with a truck bomb. We pulled out immediately after that.Bush had 9-11 with almost 4000 dead and numerous Embassies attacked yet the right acts as if this is a personal failure that a terrorist attack that killed 4 people was a failure by Obama. That's why you can't sell it. I'd say Obama's record beats the hell out of either Reagan or Bush.

Oh yeah, we had one other thing... a room full of democrats watching it all go down - for SEVEN hours

Liar.

sickofhtebickering: It seems you neither read much or get out much or are simply too young. Reagan nearly got impeached over his Iranian dealings.

While President Ronald Reagan was a supporter of the Contra cause,^[6] the evidence is disputed as to whether he authorized the diversion of the money raised by the Iranian arms sales to the Contras.^[2][3][7] Handwritten notes taken by Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger on December 7, 1985 indicate that Reagan was aware of potential hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles to "moderates elements" within that country.^[8] Weinberger wrote that Reagan said "he could answer to charges of illegality but couldn't answer to the charge that 'big strong President Reagan passed up a chance to free the hostages.'"^[8] Still, many believe that it is unclear exactly what Reagan knew and when, and whether the arms sales were motivated by his desire to save the U.S. hostages.^{[citation needed]} After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.^[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.^[10] On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."^[11]

Larry...

You obviously have a READING COMPREHENSION problem.

The issue that Chuck described was NOT regarding the Iran-Contra Affair. Yes... We all know and remember that event.

Chuck was talking about the failed attempt to rescue the US hostages held in Iran... Surely you remember Jimmy Carter's failed attempt with the helicopter crashes and Delta Force deaths... Right?

THAT is what we were discussing. NOT the Iran-Contra Affair. Chuck said in his comment that the entire rescue debacle was concocted by Reagan to help him win the election.

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Reagan did that to win against Carter with the failed attempt to rescue the men from Iran. What is a few dead men when it can buy you an election. Romney sure seemed to know just what happened just right after the attack. Remember he stuck his foot right in that big mouth of his. Then when someone asked him were he got his information from, then he knew he had better drop it. This Smacks of Romney and the Rep's Generals that hate President Obama. Just like Reagan/ Carter. Those Choppers were sabotaged by our own people.

Here it is AGAIN with the stupid comments in bold to emphasize them so that you can easily figure out what he REALLY said.

:-)

Damned good question. Oh, wait. She is quitting anyway. Firing would do no good. She couldn't care less at this point if they did fire her.

Let us hope that her Benghazi buck-up puts HRC's presidential ambitions where they belong - RIGHT IN THE CRAPPER.

We didn't lose the House ! DEAL with it !!

Good Lord, Radcliffe4! Are you STILL using Bush/Cheney as scapegoats?!? Bet you throw out the race card every chance you get, as well! How refreshing.....

Jannie - it appears to be YOU that pulls out the race card - with every post! Limited aren't ya?

No, Jannie: It's been realistic. You complain about an action that cost the US 4 lives. He's talking about an action that cost 4132 lives, yet you have not asked for the responsible parties to be held accountable.

Navy is off his med's again. Do you know what you even said? You were just rambling on and on. Nothing makes sense at all. The Great Crash was in 07 when your Hero W. was in office. He caused this mess and everyone buy you knows it. President Obama has done the things to keep us from going into full Depression. You Rep's do this every time you get into power. No wonder we kept you out of power for 40 years. I am willing to bet it will be another 40 years before Rep's can buy the Election like they did in 2000. If we have learned anything from 2012, Its that money isn't going to buy elections anymore. For all the money the Koch's and others like them poured into Romney and others, well they didn't do so well now did they. And in 2014 The House will be retaken by Dem's again. Then you will have to increase your Med's. Nave are you one of the 47% Mitt talked about, As a Vet, aren't you living off the Government, just a little? Talk about bit the hand that feeds you.

Navyveteran: To find a fool find a mirror. You RWNJ's bitch about Obama's spending even though most of what he spends is taking care of the 6 million Bush dumped on unemployment and welfare before he left. Obama hasn't made getting any benefits easier to get. How can anyone be stupid enough to think the Romney plan to cut revenue 500 billion a year, start up a new space program and increase military spending 200 billion more would balance the deficit? I've never heard anyone on the right including Romney ever explain exactly how that would lead to a lower deficit. At least 52% of the country aren't idiots who can at least do simple math. For RWNJ's, go back to school.

I think VP Biden is already busy conspiring to take all those evil guns away.

ozziey01. You and Ted N. are such ass holes. You think you have more rights to own any kind of guns you want, no matter what. Well you don't. Those kids and all people around this Country have more of a right live they you have a right to own Assault Weapons with Clips that hold more then 9 shots. I was taught to hunt and it was one shot one kill. You guys think you need 30 shots to kill a deer. Hell when you let off the trigger, all that would be left is hamburger. I think if you live on the Mexican boarder then you could get a special permit to own a Assault Weapon, because you live in a war zone. Other then that, No way. No one needs to have those kinds of guns. Having them just because you can. BS. And As we seen in Newtown she couldn't secure the weapons. Hell she tough this Nut case how to shoot these guns. Am I the only one that has a problem with that. I think she is one of you that thinks that bad black President is going to come get you.

chucky, I just own a single shot shotgun but don't see how having an AR15 made any difference in this situation. With that said, I was commenting on VP Biden's availability so why the diatribe?

Ozziey. Your crying the same old story. They are coming to take our guns. Joe don't want our hunting Guns. No one needs an AR15 unless live on the Mexican boarder. That is a war zone. We need to close the Gun show loop wholes, That's where the dude in Az got his gun. He could never have passed a back ground check. We need to stop the sell of the clips that hold 30 to 100 or more rounds. I own guns also, but we have to stop the madness. And yes these guns were legal. So that just shows you that legal guns kill people too.

So, Lee, what is your reaction to the 4132 that perished following another lie? Under whose bus we have to throw them?

I think you're under the impression that I'm a pro Bush person? If so, you're wrong. If he knew about the threat and did nothing, which I believe he did then he should face the consequences for 9/11. And if Obama knew and did nothing then he should too. Sound fair or too much like absolute morals? Our whole system is messed up. Politicians can do anything and get away with it, Repubs and Dems alike.

Retgman. You mean the tax the job makers that make jobs in Communist China. Those are the people your trying to save. Do you ever think for yourself. Or do you just say what your told to say? Or do you just work for one of the many Think tanks the Koch Brothers fund to spread the lies they need to have spread around the country. Because no self respecting person would vote for someone that is going to do things that hurt you. That is like loading the Gun for a person that is going to shoot you. My dad used to say that Rep's would cut there own head off just so they could bleed on us Dem's. I see he is right.

Yeah, Hillary, Obama and the rest of the Dems can't make any cuts to the budget. Everything is a sacred. But don't worry, taxing the job makers will solve everything. Hey! Maybe we can take France's advise and tax at a 75% rate? Yeah, yeah, that will solve it. Just because the U.S. has gone light years over the credit card limit, let's just keep spending.

And Romney's plan was to cut social program spending 60 billion a year but increase military spending 200 billion a year and start a new space program. Assuming you can do simple math Obama doing nothing would beat Romney's plan. As for taxing the job creators Bush gave them a 400 billion a year tax cut and created an average of only 32,000 jobs a month over his 8 years the lowest since WW2. Boehner was trying to defend it on a news program saying Bush's tax cut actually created 8 million jobs but 5 million were lost during the great recession. Politifact rated that claim false. They stated even claiming the majority of those 8 million were due to the tax cut much less all was dubious at best since Bush had the lowest job creation record since Eisenhower.

Yeah Da Noid and President Obama did call it an act of Terror the next morning in the Rose Garden. Quit drinking the administrations koolaid and admit the President is a Teflon man.

Quit drinking the administrations koolaid and admit the President is a Teflon man.

OH, YEAH!!!

KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLAID.............................. OH YEAH.......................

Thiis should guarantee that there is no 2016 for Cankles Clinton.

That is why she is fleeing the administration right now. In 2016 she will have distanced herself from this enough. Dummycrats memories are only good for about three years, after that it is replaced by the oft repeated party line. She will be remembered as a great woman once they have about three years to polish the turd. They will expound on how good it tastes and the welfare crowd will eat it up. Make no mistake they will sell her back to us. Remember, "Half the people are of below average intelligence". They only had to convince 2 % to go Dummycrat, the rest were a lock

Ozzie and Jimbo and the others. You

Well someone don't want me talking in her today. Ozzie and jimbo and the rest of you wingnuts. As bad as it is we lost those 4 men. How is it that you reconcile going into Iraq. How many did we lose there? How much did that Cost? Dick Cheney lied his ass off to get us into Iraq. Cheney has made billions from us going into Iraq. But that's alright with you i guess. Did you think we forgot about that?

Jimbo - sorry to disappoint you but it has been proved that those with higher intelligence and more education vote Democrat - and your post poves it!

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I always thought that Gingrich was the biggest of all possible political turds, but it now appears that Cankles Clinton will be an even bigger one. And, her ego will push her into the primaries for 2016 - where hopefully she'll go round and round then down the crapper just like Gingrich taking the money of fools with her.

My neighbor's so dumb, I convinced him to vote republican.

This was tragic, but not as tragic as what the republicans are trying to do to this country. Treason.

I doubt talking about the intelligence of democrats versus republicans would be to your advantage. Intellectuals including all those liberal college professors your side likes to rant about indoctrinating our kids are mostly democrats. Most of the red states are rural redneck country while heavily democratic are high tech and financial states. But you keep telling yourself how smart you are. Billybob and Bubba will believe you.

Oh...my god Seeking, do you express your opinions in public? I live in Detroit and I never hear liberals voicing thier opions in public unless there are many of them. UAW/IBEW/Public Union rallys and thats it.

Johnny coherent much?

I still don't get why we think one party is any better than the other. they both will lie to cover their mistakes and they both will have to borrow money to keep the country going. the gov has its hands in to much of what the states should be handling which would make for smaller packs of gov and easier to control by the people. as it is now there are to many people to throw the blame on. the gov should be about protecting the country and thats about it all else could be handled by the states

Okie58 You are right. But the Truth is that our Government is only as good as we make it. When people ask for our votes and then don't do what they said they would do. Well Its called Recall, Fire there Asses. Don't wait until the next election. But the single biggest thing we have to do is to take upon our self's To stop the Bribery that has been allowed for years now. Out law Lobbing, Over turn the Supreme Court that opened to flood gates of money from anyone and any Country to find its way into our Elections. I don't want China telling us who they want us to elect. congress will never stop there gravy train. So we the People will have to do it for them, along with term limits. None of these people should be full time. I say a good place to start cutting back is in Congress its self.

Clinton's not running in 2016 DA she was stupid enough to take a job in this administration and so she got what she deserved. Don't worry though you still have Biden!

Dmill is 100 % correct. This is another Foxnews lie designed to hyp up the TP. But its clear after the election the the majority do not listen to them and give them no respect. Move along wingnuts...move along

Yeah right Paul and what do you and dmill have against fiscally responsible politicians anyway? Oh wait, worried about that govt. check huh?

Clinton's not running in 2016 DA she was stupid enough to take a job in this administration and so she got what she deserved. Don't worry though you still have Biden!

Almost anyone would beat the candidates that support the tea party agenda and therefore can get the republican nomination. Hard to sell a racist women hating party that sells itself to the highest bidder. The republican plan. Cut taxes on the rich and spend lots of money on a bigger military with less money.

What a moron.

Where is the WMD?....execute Cheney/Bush first...now those 2 are proven liars and killed way more Americans than anyone alive today

Paul, They probably used them all up on the Kurds before we got there. Don't forget there was a vote in both houses of congress to go into Iraq.

ozzie

isn't it funny how people don't know that to go to war it takes votes and the pres. can't make that decision on his own.

Paul-794119zero, the WMDs are in Syria. Try checking the news once in awhile, ok.

TheStar - proof for that statement please.

Study up SS .... there were recent reports about nerve gas being setup to be put into planes in Syria ... to be used on opposition forces within Syria.

Syria produced their OWN chemical weapons, just like Iraq did. No one's saying those are Iraq's chemical weapons today, except people looking to excuse GWB's lies. Doesn't matter anyway, now does it?

They already acknowleged they have them, to use on foreign aggressors, back in July.

I've heard the "trucks rolling into Syria", but I also know we bombed milk trucks during the Gulf War and said they were Scud launchers.

SeekingSanity, why has no mention been made that Syria had them till now when the Syrians have threatened to use them. Everyone agreed that Iraq had WMDs before the war. The truth doesn't fit into the leftist pig mantra.

unlike what the good ol war machine gop would do, Oboma dosent want another war. Mccain has moaned we should send in troops for months, BS. I laugh when I see the same turds that are witch hunting for Hillarys head was all for sending troops to a BS war. Ill tell ya what this witch hunt is about. The rep fear hillary will run in 2016. They know that she would probally win. Newt come out on tv and said that if hillary ran in 4 years she would win and the Gop would lose again. Now to all the rep out there thats calling for her head. Are you for real? Bush has killed how many innocent people in Iraq, He left the real war go to do so. He concentrated on Iraq and put afgan on the table. I say bring Bush up on treason charges. drag the intell service up on the hill and say wtf. who told ya to say this to start a war, for the war machine.

How about having Bush and Cheney up for mass murder, war crimes and crimes against humanity !!!

SeekingSanity, why has no mention been made that Syria had them till now when the Syrians have threatened to use them. Everyone agreed that Iraq had WMDs before the war. The truth doesn't fit into the leftist pig mantra.

Try reading more. The state department has indicated they're keeping a close satellite watch of Syria's chemical weapons stockpiles. Which means we know where they are. Don't worry the government knows about Syria having WMD they just didn't tell you. I read there's an estimated 80 countries known to have WMD mostly nerve and mustard gas. Do you know which? If not, why would you know about Syria? You're not important enough to inform.