Congress: Merry Christmas, suckers

Speaker John Boehner told members to go home for Christmas but be back the next day. (Congress = The Bart Simpson who stole Christmas?)

The New York Times on yesterday’s meeting between Obama and Boehner: “Mr. Obama and Mr. Boehner met for less than an hour, not an encouraging sign, with Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner joining the talks. Afterward, as they did following a Sunday meeting, White House and Congressional aides issued near-identical statements saying only that ‘the lines of communication remain open.’  Before the meeting, a senior administration official struck a downbeat note, saying, ‘we are in the same place — Boehner has not given on revenue and has not identified any cuts that he wants in exchange for rates.’”

More: “According to another administration official, the White House hastily set up the meeting Thursday afternoon, hoping to prompt some progress before Mr. Boehner returned home to Ohio for the weekend. Earlier in the day, Mr. Boehner dug in on demands that Mr. Obama lay out more concrete cuts to Medicare and other entitlements as the price for tax increases on the rich.”

This Washington Post editorial gives some ammunition to the GOP: “There are better and worse ways to bend the entitlement curve. Raise the Medicare age, but shield the neediest seniors. If you think Republicans are proposing the wrong way to adjust the cost-of-living index, finance expert Robert C. Pozen has proposed a progressive alternative. But there’s no way to fix America’s problem without doing something on entitlements. If the Democrats — and Mr. Obama, in particular — don’t get more seriously into that discussion, they have no standing to complain about the Republicans’ lack of balance.”

Political Wire: “Despite record low approval rates for Congress, Bloomberg finds that 90% of House members and 91% of U.S. Senators who sought re-election in 2012 were successful.”

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HAHAHAH!!!!!

I AM FIRST! I BEAT FISTY TO THE FIRST POST!

And with that... allow me to say... MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all my 'friends' at FR. (I leave it to you to decide if you fit into this category)

To the rest of you... whatever!

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Reply#1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:09 AM EST

"Boehner has not given on revenue and has not identified any cuts that he wants in exchange for rates."

Still not doing HIS job in the HOUSE. Yay! Another 2 years of tantrums and free money for Congress.

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#1.1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:15 AM EST

Boehner the worst Speaker ever.

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#1.2 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:21 AM EST

Typical Republican, Sick wins the top post and uses it for partisan sniping. How about making a case for why Boehner and the House Republicans shouldn't be tried for treason? Their fiscal cliff games are putting the economy in danger. They don't care if they don't get re-elected after tanking the economic recovery because they know they can always slide into a cushy private sector job, like (former) Senator DeMint. Hurting the country for one's personal gain. That is treason, in my book.

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#1.3 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:34 AM EST

You may have beat Feisty to the post but you cannot beat her to her logic.

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#1.4 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:35 AM EST

Amy, we all know and agree that the Reptilican's behaviour over the last four years has been treasonous in spirit (to say nothing of childish, petty, cowardly, revolting, I'm going to set my monitor on fire if I type what I'm really thinking!), but unfortunately, as far as I know there's nothing in it that rises to the level of actual treason.

Now, Ronald Reagan agreeing to sell weapons to our sworn blood enemies in Iran, and to offer bribes to murderous terrorists who kidnapped, tortured and killed Americans- that was treason, and there's no two ways about it!

But I guess it's OK to break the law and trample all over the Constitution if a rich guy tells you to do so.

I think that charges of misfeasance, malfeasance, or dereliction of duty might be made to hold up, but I'm just a dumb plumber, so I wouldn't know. (My admitting it is another way you can tell I'm not a conservative.) Anybody out there who does know the law care to take a stab at it?

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#1.5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:45 AM EST

Amy B. Portland, ME

Typical Republican, Sick wins the top post and uses it for partisan sniping.

Amy... do you have any idea what the word 'partisan' means?

I made not comment of left vs right... I merely wished my friends Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.

That's all. Why would YOU make such a partisan accusation?

Perhaps you should find a little Christmas Cheer! :-)

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John in Battle Creek

You may have beat Feisty to the post but you cannot beat her to her logic.

Who would want to... her logic is TWISTED at best!

Merry Christmas! :-)

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#1.6 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:12 AM EST

Sick, you must be a legend in your own mind if you think that anything you have to say either about Feisty or politics in general has any merit what so ever. While sometimes I find her statements caustic in nature, I find them to be spot on, which by the way is nothing I could say about your half truths and lies on behalf of conservative causes.

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#1.7 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:32 AM EST

That is treason, in my book

Ain't it the truth Amy.

They sign the Grover Pledge (no taxes), that Susan B. Anthony Pledge (no freedom of choice for women) and who knows whatever else they sign and completely ignore their Oath of Office!

For all of their Constitution this, Constitution that mantra, it gets lost behind Grover and Susan.

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#1.8 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:50 AM EST

sick of the bickering I am first.....................

Who cares.

    #1.9 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:05 PM EST

    SickOfTheBickering

    HAHAHAH!!!!!

    I AM FIRST! I BEAT FISTY TO THE FIRST POST!

    You do realize that calling her "fisty" when you just get man-handled by her all the time means that you're the one getting fisted, right?... Over and over and over...

      #1.10 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:24 PM EST
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      "HAHAHAH!!!!!

      I AM FIRST! I BEAT FISTY TO THE FIRST POST!" So says Sick of the Bickering.

      I'm going to venture a guess that this represents the crowning achievment of your year!

      And while I've got you on the phone, SOTB- what's up with your avatar? Even at 250% mag., it still looks to me like a guy in a suit holding a tommygun, with a misshapen loaf of bread for a head. Do enlighten me!

      Peace!

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      Reply#2 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:37 AM EST

      Hahaha

      sick of that SickOfTheBick

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      #2.1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:51 AM EST

      Hey Trot...

      Thanks for confirming that there is at least one constant in the universe...

      'When unable to mentally compete with conservatives, liberals WILL turn to personally attacking their superior...'

      :OP

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      #2.2 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:16 AM EST

      I'm sorry, SOTB, but having read your reply forwards, backwards, and Edwards, I fear I am no closer to understanding your avatar.

      Can it be that you simply didn't comprehend my question?

      On second thought, never mind. It's just not that important.

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      #2.3 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:33 AM EST

      'When unable to mentally compete with conservatives

      It's just hard for us Liberals to come down to that level Sick.

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      #2.4 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:07 PM EST

      Mo, liberals have no level to sink to; they are as low as one can get. Just read Seeking's posts.

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      #2.5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:35 PM EST

      It's just hard for us Liberals to come down to that level Sick.

      Rick Santorum speaking of the right wing said it best Mo!

      ......"We'll never have elite, smart people on our side".............

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      #2.6 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:53 PM EST

      hey, SickOfTheBickering

      ...

      my earlier post (#2.1) is a pun on the 'SickOfTheBickering.' I might not agree with you sometimes, but I absolutely will fight for your right to express yourself.

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      #2.7 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:33 PM EST
      Reply

      From the article, "But there’s no way to fix America’s problem without doing something on entitlements. If the Democrats — and Mr. Obama, in particular — don’t get more seriously into that discussion, they have no standing to complain about the Republicans’ lack of balance.”

      One word, MILTARY. We can no longer afford to be the worlds cop if we can no longer afford to see that our nations elderly enjoy a long and healthy retirement. They worked their 50 years at building the nation and deserve a comfortable retirement. Thinking again of congress, they serve one term either 2 or 6 years and get a lifetime of raping the American people. Enough talk about reforming so called entitlements .

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      Reply#3 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:40 AM EST

      John, just yesterday I posted that large cuts to the military budget are almost certain to be gravely injurious to my household, because I live in a fairly remote area where Uncle Sam's Yacht Club is the only employer of note; if there aren't any grey ships to fix, then the rest of us don't have much of anything to do.

      Be that as it may, if major cuts to the warfighting budget (let's not keep pretending that this really has to do with defence) are made, as they certainly must be eventually, well, I don't know what I'll do... but I do know that I won't sit around crying that the U.S. Navy somehow owes me a living.

      For an instructive example of a post- Imperial America, consider our ally Great Britain:* By 1982, her fleet, air force, and budget were a tiny fraction of what they'd been in August of 1939. Some Argentinian flag officers thought they could pull the British Lion's tail and get away with it.

      Those generals and admirals have had ample leisure to repent of their foolishness. Nobody has taken a cheap shot at the Union Jack since then. Few are eager to.

      *Yes, I know the country's proper name is "United Kingdom". I'm English by blood- indulge me.

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      #3.1 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:31 AM EST

      What I propose in major defense spending cuts probably would not effect the domestic, as a matter of fact it would enhance employment in America. I say pull our troops back from the over sea's bases and put these people in defense of our borders which by the way is needed a lot more then having 21 bases in Germany for example. We spend 10 times as much for our military then we spend on all the welfare programs in this country. Lets put Americans to work around bases in the U.S., not off shoring bases that other governments enjoy the profits and taxes that we pay through our personal at those bases.

      I also feel welfare needs to be changed to an all federal government sponsored education program, where people are taught a skill to move them to work. Welfare to work is not a new idea as Clinton started this program in the 90's. I don't think "free money" is the answer either. But a free education at least has a shot at lifting people out of poverty.

      • 2 votes
      #3.2 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:48 AM EST

      Also cut what the military does not want. Fixing HUEY's in my congressional district.

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      #3.3 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:13 PM EST
      Reply

      And that last sentence pretty much says it all that despite low approval, these reps. and senator have a high chance at re-election. So they can continue to doing what they do best, not a damn thing and we continue to pay their salaries, their perks and their health care. Who's the suckers, really??????

      • 4 votes
      Reply#4 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:09 AM EST

      Here's a thought,lets cut congress pay by 25% to help balance the budget!!! You don't make top pay when you do a crappy job right?.Let's cut their health benifits while we're at it so they know what it's like.What a bunch of losers!!!!

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      Reply#5 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:24 AM EST

      Seeing as though Dec 25 was a holiday celebrating the arrival of the pagan God Baal's offspring suckers is right. Jer 10 3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter.

        Reply#6 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:18 AM EST

        Those who live in Delaware, Maryland or Virginia can be off one day and back the next but what about those in Hawaii, Alaska or the West Coast. Bah Humbug, Mr. Speaker, had you done your job you woldn't have to be Scrooge.

        A strong leader can control all factions he leads a weak leader cannot. Abraham Lincoln had a very diverse cabinet with men from both ends of the spectrum and the center and he could control them. He made them get along and do the peoples's work. His successor, Andrew Johnson was a weak leader and couldn't controll the diverse cabinet. John Boehner is more like Andy Johnson than Abe Lincoln in this way.

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        Reply#7 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:55 AM EST

        Republican Boehner = Complete Failure

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        Reply#8 - Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:21 PM EST

        A Just For The Hell Of It Publication!

        Republican Back Door Tax Rate Increases By Way Of Killing Deductions Vs Straight Forward Just Raise The Tax Rates!

        Republicans & Deductions: What Deductions -- Maybe The Mortgage Related Deductions For Starters?

        Eliminate It Or Maybe Cap It? Well If It's Eliminated There Goes The Housing Industry Down The Drain -- A Major Incentive To Own Your Own Home Is Gone -- And Existing Home Values Will Tub To Say The Least! Not To Mention The Lost Jobs In The Building Industry & Economic Back Lash That Will Follow! Not A Very Good Deduction To Eliminate! Maybe Just Cap It At A Level That Will Limit The Amount Of Mortgage Related Deductions -- A Little More Sanity Here Maybe -- Maybe Not -- What Is The Average Price And Mortgage Deductions Of A Home In America -- Well You Could Live In A Palace In Some Places Or A Shed In Others For The Same Price With The Same Deductions -- Not Too Appealing I'd Say! -- No Consideration Here For Market Variations -- No Easy Way To Adjust For Them Either -- A Tax Code Nightmare! -- A Cap Would Have To Be Set Very High To Take Into Account The Cost Of Housing For The Whole Country! Still Producting Negative Effecting the Housing Industry In The Country! Getting Revenue Here Is A Very Big If! And How Much Is Even A Bigger If!

        Well How About A Cap On All Deductions? Yes -- Well Maybe -- What Will It Be $50k Cap For All Or Maybe A % Of Your Gross Income Or Maybe A % With A Cap? Choices -- WOW -- Now What Was The Revenue Target We Need To Hit My GOP Friends?

        Let Me Help You Out Here -- Just Raise The Tax Rates On All Income Foreign & Domestic And Put A Cap On Deductions As A % Of Your Gross Income And Kill All Those Tax Avoiding Loop Holes Out There!

        Corporations -- Now They Have An Effective Tax Rate Of 9% To 10% And Their Profits Are Off The Charts On The Up Side And Yet Average Wages Are Off The Charts On The Down Side -- Gee I Wonder Where All Those Profit Bucks Came From??? Worker Pockets Maybe --- Oversea Jobs Maybe??? Lots Of Tax Revenue Potential Here! Just Look At Walmart $100 Billion Club Of Owners And Execs. And Then Look At Their Below Living Wage Workers!

        The GOP Need Your Dollars -- Please Give -- GOD Wishes It!

          Reply#9 - Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:05 PM EST
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