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Subscribe to RSSJohn Boehner makes a new offer to President Obama in hopes of reaching a deal to resolve the impending fiscal cliff. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.
House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) sent a new offer on Tuesday afternoon to President Barack Obama in hopes of reaching a deal to resolve the impending fiscal cliff.
Specific details are scarce, but the proposal apparently was made as a counter-offer to something the White House had proposed over the last few days. A GOP aide said the White House plan offered $1.4 trillion in new revenue, but the GOP still not moved from offering $800 billion in revenue.
Boehner spokesman Michael Steel told NBC News the following:
"We sent the White House a counter-offer that would achieve tax and entitlement reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more American jobs. As the Speaker said today, we're still waiting for the White House to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the "balanced approach" he promised the American people. The longer the White House slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff."
Speaker of the House John Boehner provides an update on the fiscal cliff negotiations, placing pressure on the White House to reveal how they intend to compromise with House Republicans on spending cuts.
Since this is a new offer, it’s assumed to be different from the one put forward last week by the GOP that called for $800 billion dollars in new revenue through closing tax loopholes and deductions, along with an additional $600 billion in savings through cuts to entitlements.
A GOP aide opined to NBC News that the president must move more quickly on “the spending side” before any deal could hope to be accomplished. A major sticking point to date has involved how much ground Republicans would give on tax rates for the wealthy.
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Still don't get it do you? Bush Admin. Spent like drunken sailors and put everything on the Chinese card. Now they are crying Oh the deficit. This has happened throghout history.The big Dick cheney said deficits don't matter. When the Dems get in then it does.
Republicans think by kissing elite azz, the economy will get better. Well, the elite have been making record profits and no new jobs. Same old pattern. Only the gullible middle class/poor Republicans fall for this lie. They know they are easily lead.
austerity, obama is the greatest spender of all time. Are you so far left that you can't see that? do all you left wing nut jobs have a permeate brain freeze?
@unreal, Obama only spent 1.5 trill in 4 years Bush spent 13.3 in 8 years, you need a new calculator.
6dogs,
Can you please tell us the source for these numbers?
Let's go over the cliff. Forget dealing with Republicans. They seem to more attention whores than leaders. Besides, the American people will blame Republicans fully for the mess that will come. Republicans deserve every bit of the blame they will encounter.
What's wrong with attention whores? It fits and you should be proud of it.
Sunset..I also say let's go over the cliff. This way taxes will go up on everyone and will show Obama didn't work hard enough or care enough about the middle class. The GOP will get the initial blame, but history will show Obama was at the helm when it happened and will also show that he is the first Prez. in history during 2 credit downgrades.(2nd one coming in 2013 after we go over the fiscal cliff) . It is sickening to see Obama hired 143,000 new federal workers and will only add to that total during his second term. The KING is not serious about cutting expenses and won't have to when taxes go up for everyone...THAT is his master plan.
sunsetcliffts, the only whores I'v been around live in your house.
I have a great paying job. Non-labor. I consult principals and teachers. I use my mind and I am paid well for it. You?
No, I told that neighbor to stay the blank away. She said she was going to move in with you.
@trilliondollar, nope it is in Boehners and his Cronies hands they were the ones that signed a conflict of interest pledge of which Norquist should be arrested for Obstruction of Government business. Boehner and his Cronies should punished for derelection in the performance of their duties. They are not doing even the Republicans any good. Yet you people keep putting these jerks back in office knowing full well what they are doing is a punishable crime.
6Dogs......Wrong again.....I wonder how many times you can be wrong in the same day. Obama= 2nd credit downgrade in US history. Coming to a city near you in 2013.
The GOP loves rich people. Wish they loved America half as much.
Disgusted you should be in yourself.
Boehner is lying! There is no such thing as "entitlement reform by the GOP!" There is ONLY entitlement privatization or cuts. IN the last election, and in polls since, American have made it VERY clear that they want NO PART of GOP "entitlement reform".
It's important to remember that it was the last 3 GOP presidents who caused this debt crisis by signing TWENTY deficit riddled budgets AND saddling Obama with a $1.3T deficit BEFORE he took office! Their plan to "starve the beast" benefited THEIR supporters. Given that, let the GOP find ways to let THEIR BENEFICIARIES pay for the mess THEY CREATED!
This is, hopefully, non-negotiable.
tom
have you forgotten the great give away by obama? Goverment motors, solar companies, the list goes on. Blame that on the republicans.
Tom............You forgot the Obama phones and the additional 143,000 federal workers hired during his 1st term. Obama needs to encourage his handouter supporters to join the Peace Corp. so they can become a productive part of society.
You're kidding right???
Mirror, Mirror, on the Wall, Which President Is the Biggest Spender of All?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielmitchell/2012/05/24/mirror-mirror-on-the-wall-which-president-is-the-biggest-spender-of-all/
There ARE no Obama phones. BUSH bailed out the auto companies!! GEEZZZ... incredible misinformation.
@trilliodollar, haven't you got any new material that is 4 year old crap.
@tom NH, that was 3.5 trill that wasn't showing from Bushs illigal war in Iraq. Bush did show 9.8 trill for his 8 years in office.
6Dogs......Doesn't your hero have any new material other than "it's not my fault" What about the additional 143,00 federal workers hired during his 1st term....Just wait and see how many are hired during his 2nd term. The great spender in chief will eclipse all presidents by the time his 2nd term is complete.
hey van man cut the cola heh fu arshole the govt causes inflation with money printing and you want to take it out on seniors what a sick sob
Guess I should have saved that four years college and become a millionaire farmer?...
sorry...I grew up in the middle of farmland USA...where the hell are these millionaire farmers? Not southeastern Minnesota, in Iowa, Nebraska or the Dakotas...VERY FEW if any...oh do you mean the big ranchers....that write every ounce of anything off they can to eliminate paying any taxes at all?
Pay up dudes, Your turn....
Amen Kasey. they love America, it is that United States they have a problem with.
Poor, Poor Monsanto.
The one thing that stands out is that the ONLY reason that the repubs are being forced to even consider closing the loopholes they have been jumping through for the past decade is because they lost the election. Why did they not try to close these loopholes before now?
And even with rich people saying that they should be taxed more, the repubs dance to the tune of big business - and big businesses are only interested in avoiding paying taxes.
Dems are portrayed as reckless spenders - even though they spend money on people and not corporations.
Middle class conservatives are under a delusion that making rich people richer at their expense will somehow make them rich someday - a pipe dream of epic proportions. They waste their time being upset at people whom they think are getting a free ride while they aren't - but would gladly take a free ride if one were offered to them.
The GOP is about greed and their own interests. Those who believe differently are kidding themselves.
Here's how I think it will go down. Boehner will take it to the bitter end and than relent. This way he will have something to blow his horn about the next time her runs for election. If he doesn't his Epitath on his Tombstone isn't going to read anything good. he is so worried about how he looks to half a dozen money bags when he should be concerned how he is looking to over 1 million easily. We all know Republicans have no math skills. I'm also getting tired of seeing that Alcholic leer in his eyes all the time.
Just agree not to agree and let the fiscal cliff come as we expected. PLEASE. It is the one way to get the country where it should be ..... twisting in debt, economic filure and the employment rate where it should be ... over 10%!! Let it happen and watch the folks in Washingtom twist and turn. It will seperate the men from the boys!!
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Chesty Puller
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Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller
Lewis "Chesty" Puller as Major General
Nickname
"Chesty"
Born
26 June 1898
West Point, Virginia, United States
Died
11 October 1971 (aged 73)
Hampton, Virginia, United States
Place of burial
Christchurch Parish Cemetery Christ Church, Virginia, United States
Allegiance
United States of America
Service/branch
United States Marine Corps
Years of service
1918–1955
Rank
Lieutenant General
Unit
1st Marine Division
Commands held
2nd Battalion 4th Marines
1st Battalion, 7th Marines
1st Marine Regiment
Battles/wars
Banana Wars
World War II
Korean War
Awards
Navy Cross (5)
Distinguished Service Cross
Silver Star Medal
Legion of Merit (2) with Combat "V"
Bronze Star Medal with Combat "V"
Air Medal (3)
Purple Heart Medal
Combat Action Ribbon (2)
Relations
Father of Lewis B. Puller, Jr.
Lieutenant General Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller (June 26, 1898 – October 11, 1971) was a retired general officer of the United States Marine Corps. Lt. Gen. Puller is one of the most, if not the most, decorated combat Marine in Marine Corps history. He is the only Marine to be awarded five Navy Crosses.
During his career, he fought guerrillas in Haiti and Nicaragua, and participated in some of the bloodiest battles of World War II and the Korean War. Puller retired from the Marine Corps in 1955, spending the rest of his life in Virginia.
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Early life
Puller was born in West Point, Virginia to Matthew and Martha Puller. His father was a grocer who died when Lewis was 10 years old. Puller grew up listening to old veterans' tales of the Civil War and idolizing Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson. He wanted to enlist in the United States Army to fight in the Border War with Mexico in 1916, but he was too young and could not get parental consent from his mother.[1]
The following year, Puller attended the Virginia Military Institute but left at the end of his first year as World War I was still ongoing, saying that he wanted to "go where the guns are!"[2] Inspired by the 5th Marines at Belleau Wood, he enlisted in the United States Marine Corps as a private and attended boot camp at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, South Carolina.[1]
Although he never saw action in that war, the Corps was expanding, and soon after graduating he attended NCO school and OCS (Officer Candidates School) at Quantico, Virginia following that. Upon graduation from OCS on June 16, 1919, Puller was appointed to the grade of second lieutenant in the reserves, but reduction in force from 73,000 to 1,100 officers and 27,400 men[3] following the war led to his being put on inactive status 10 days later and given the rank of corporal.[1]
Interwar years
First Lieutenant Lewis "Chesty" Puller (center left) and Sergeant William "Ironman" Lee (center right) and two Nicaraguan soldiers in 1931
As a corporal, Puller received orders to serve in the Gendarmerie d'Haiti as a lieutenant, seeing action in Haiti.[4] While the United States was working under a treaty with Haiti, he participated in over forty engagements during the ensuing five years against the Caco rebels and attempted to regain his commission as an officer twice. In 1922, he served as an adjutant to Major Alexander Vandegrift, a future Commandant of the Marine Corps.
Puller returned stateside and was finally recommissioned as a second lieutenant on March 6, 1924 (service number 03158), afterward completing assignments at the Marine Barracks in Norfolk, Virginia, The Basic School in Quantico, Virginia, and with the 10th Marine Artillery Regiment in Quantico, Virginia. He was assigned to the Marine Barracks at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii in July 1926 and in San Diego, California in 1928.
In December 1928, Puller was assigned to the Nicaraguan National Guard detachment, where he was awarded his first Navy Cross for his actions from February 16 to August 19, 1930 when he led "five successive engagements against superior numbers of armed bandit forces." He returned stateside in July 1931 and completed the year-long Company Officers Course at Fort Benning, Georgia, thereafter returning to Nicaragua from September 20 to October 1, 1932 and was awarded a second Navy Cross.
Puller with members of the Guardia Nacional
After his service in Nicaragua, Puller was assigned to the Marine detachment at the American Legation in Beijing, China commanding a unit of China Marines. He then went on to serve aboard USS Augusta (CA-31), a cruiser in the Asiatic Fleet, which was commanded by then-Captain Chester W. Nimitz. Puller returned to the States in June 1936 as an instructor at the Basic School in Philadelphia.
In May 1939, he returned to the Augusta as commander of the onboard Marine detachment, and then back to China, disembarking in Shanghai in May 1940 to serve as the executive officer of 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. He later served as its commanding officer.
World War II
Puller on Guadalcanal in September, 1942
Major Puller returned to the U.S. on August 28, 1941. After a short leave, he was given command of 1st Battalion, 7th Marines (known as 1/7) of the 1st Marine Division, stationed at New River, North Carolina, the new Marine amphibious base which would soon be renamed for the 13th Commandant of the Marine Corps, John A. Lejeune, MCB Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.[5] Early in the Pacific theater the 7th Marines formed the nucleus of the newly created 3rd Marine Brigade and arrived to defend Samoa on May 8, 1942. Later they were redeployed from the brigade and on September 4, 1942, they left Samoa and rejoined the 1st Division at Guadalcanal on September 18, 1942.
Soon after arriving on Guadalcanal, Puller led his battalion in a fierce action along the Matanikau, in which Puller's quick thinking saved three of his companies from annihilation. In the action, these companies were surrounded and cut off by a larger Japanese force. Puller ran to the shore, signaled a United States Navy destroyer, the USS Monssen, and then directed the destroyer to provide fire support while landing craft rescued his Marines from their precarious position. For his actions, he was awarded the Bronze Star Medal with Combat "V".
Later on Guadalcanal, Puller was awarded his third Navy Cross, in what was later known as the "Battle for Henderson Field”. Puller commanded 1st Battalion, 7th Marines (1/7), one of two American infantry units defending the airfield against a regiment-strength Japanese force. The 3rd Battalion of the U.S. Army's 164th Infantry Regiment (3/164) fought alongside the marines. In a firefight on the night of October 24–25, 1942, lasting about three hours, 1/7 and 3/164 sustained 70 casualties; the Japanese force suffered over 1,400 killed in action, and the Americans held the airfield. It was in this battle that Marine Sergeant John Basilone would earn the Medal of Honor. The marines awarded Army Lt. Colonel Robert Hall, commander of the 3/164, the Navy Cross for his role in this battle.
Puller was then made executive officer of the 7th Marine Regiment. While serving in this capacity at Cape Gloucester, Puller was awarded his fourth Navy Cross for overall performance of duty between December 26, 1943 and January 19, 1944. During this time, when the battalion commanders of 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines and, later, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, while under heavy machine gun and mortar fire, he expertly reorganized the battalion and led the successful attack against heavily fortified Japanese defensive positions. He was promoted to colonel effective February 1, 1944, and by the end of the month had been named commander of the 1st Marine Regiment. Colonel Puller would lead the 1st Marines into the protracted battle on Peleliu, one of the bloodiest battles in Marine Corps history during September and October 1944, action where he was awarded his first Legion of Merit. During the summer of 1944, Puller's younger brother, Samuel D. Puller, the Executive Officer of the 4th Marine Regiment, was killed by a sniper on Guam.[6]
Puller returned to the United States in November 1944, was named executive officer of the Infantry Training Regiment at Camp Lejeune and, two weeks later, Commanding Officer. After the war, he was made Director of the 8th Reserve District at New Orleans, and later commanded the Marine Barracks at Pearl Harbor.
Korean War
Colonel Puller cutting the Marine Corps birthday cake on 10 November 1950, during a brief reprieve from battle during the Korean War[citation needed]
At the outbreak of the Korean War, Puller was once again assigned as commander of the 1st Marine Regiment, with which he made a landing at Inchon on September 15, 1950 and was awarded the Silver Star Medal.[7] For leadership from September 15 to November 2, he was awarded his second Legion of Merit. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross from the Army for action from November 29 to December 5 of that same year, and his fifth Navy Cross for action during December 5–10 at the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. It was during that battle when he made the famous quote, "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things."[8]
In January 1951, Puller was promoted to brigadier general and was assigned duty as assistant division commander (ADC) of the 1st Marine Division. On February 24, however, his immediate superior, Major General O. P. Smith, was hastily transferred to command X Corps when its Army commander, Major General Bryant Moore, died. Smith’s temporary transfer left Puller in command of his beloved 1st Marine Division. Puller would serve as ADC until he completed his tour of duty and left for the United States on May 20, 1951.[9]
Colonel Puller studies the terrain during the Korean War.
General Puller subsequently received promotions to major general and lieutenant general, and served in various command capacities until he suffered a stroke from high blood pressure[10] and was forced to retire in 1955. Puller was bitter over being forced to retire and blamed the Army, of which he was a frequent and vocal critic. Puller was ordered to undergo medical testing at Walter Reed Army Hospital in Washington DC, not the then-nearby Bethesda MD Naval Hospital, which traditionally treated sailors, marines, coast guard and their families, which was his basis to claim a conspiracy. Puller felt his illness was over-exaggerated and his forced retirement was retribution from senior army generals who he said hated him. Many marines at the time also felt that Puller should have received at least one Medal of Honor (MOH) for his many heroic actions but also felt that this was blocked by the army. [11]
Relations
Puller's son Lewis Burwell Puller, Jr. (generally known as Lewis Puller) became a highly decorated Marine as a lieutenant in Vietnam. W
NOT the guy that posts as " chesty puller "
So how does this apply to this idiot and where did you get the info?
The GUY that posts as " Chesty Puller is A Sad personage . Eat Shize and die .
The only media outlet from the US banned in Canada because of lies ,lies ,lies FOX. You can get them on cable if you pay like porn.
It is not the only Media outlet . Fox is banned because they try to tell LIES as TRUTH . Its not hard to understand .
austerity, have you lissoned to hln, abc,nsnbc cnn ? These guys can't be called reporters, they don't report anything, all the do is kiss up to your black presidents ass.
unreal, do you feel the racism oozing up? Getting ready to hurl insults at minorities? What difference does it make what color our president is? It only seems to matter to you racist Republicans. Heck, we all know how you all feel about women.
They ought to make a new physical offer, kick sham-wow in the chestnuts.
Vote on it,vote on the presidents plan ,vote on something.he can't vote because he has no control and isn't sure how a vote would work out for him,Boner's a joke
I'm a staunch fiscal conservative, but I don't care about which party "wins" or "loses". This isn't about party, it's about the budget and the long- (and even short-) term financial health of this nation. We cannot bridge the gap with tax increases alone, there HAVE to be spending cuts. Every time the Republicans suggest programs to cut, Democrats superimpose their images behind old ladies in wheel chairs getting pushed off a cliff. The Democrats have to wake up and get serious and suggest some areas in which to cut, rather than simply wait for the Republicans to do so and then demonize them (a la Paul Ryan).
It's on the table big. They know what we want it has been said for 2 plus years now. Time for the house of ill repute to pass the ball.
A.N.W., I'm not sure I agree with you. What exactly is on the table? The President has suggested tax increases, but I've seen nothing about where the spending cuts will be. Can you perhaps point me to where I could find that information?
bigracefan,
He says he wants to cut the budget by $40 Billion this year but he also wants a stimulus of $50 billion so there are no cuts and I also go back to a question I have been asking for all afternoon,
If the Iraq war is over, Afghanistan is winding down, 5 million jobs have been created why is spending actually up 16% for the first two months of this fiscal year?
It's worth it to go over the cliff. It will be the end of the Republican Party. If they regroup, it will be into to factions: Conservatives and Neo-Fascist. Many of the Republican posters here would fit into the later.
Sunset cliffs
that may be and you will probably pay taxes for the first time in your life. But your president won't be borrowing anymore money for at least 2 years.
Not without another glass of Merlo!
WE ARE going OVER the cliff/curb WOOOHOOO . At least the TEA Fags wont be in charge .
Sooooo Republicans are the HORRIBLE and Democrats are the SAVIORS !!! The fact that you believe this says volumes about the hatred of the naive democrats - which started in strength when Gore LOST and has continued on these many years - why - because they know nothing else besides HATRED......... there is no CONSENSUS.... they don't want it........ they want to totally blame the republicans for everything...... well guess what....... democrats along with the liberal news media is running the country....... so get off of your a** blaming the republicans - YOU GUYS ARE IN CHARGE......... Nancy Pelosi declared that way back in 2008 !!! So what are YOU going to do about IT !!! If there is ANY GOING OFF THE CLIFF - it will lie squarely on the democratic shoulders........
John Boehner couldn't organize a successful luncheon, must less get the GOP House members to approve any deal to avoid the fiscal cliff.
Boehner is wasting his time, and he should know better than trying to negotiate with an egotistical socialist !
I am for letting the tax law expire. We did fine under Clinton at those rates. The law will also cut spending without them doing anything. Let it happen at this point and come back next year and make adjustments to revenue if needed. Then it will be a tax cut again and everyone can get behind a tax cut!
EXACTLY .
George Carlin said it best (it is a facade you just think you have a choice). that's the clean version.
I am a big fan of a Gallagher line:
If the opposite of Pro is Con the the opposite of progress must be Congress
OMG Jerry, I need some depends...I am peeing my pants....awesome
Austerity, I want the DIRTY version...who cares if collapsed....some of us want to know...carlin was a foul mouthed dude who could say the best one liners...not sure what this one is.
I always like Will Rogers.
"There should be one day when there is open season on senators."
Or
"With Congress, every time they make a joke it's a law, and every time they make a law it's a joke."
Mark Twain had a lot to say about good ole Congress.
"Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
I suppose that if there is anything we can take from history, it's that our gene pool is filled with stupidity.
I really don't care about our taxes going up. Everyone on hear knows that their taxes are going up for all classes. If they think its only for the top 2% they are dreaming. What I would like is no more stimulus and bailout money given to all these failed company's, like the battery company that sold off to china and the failed solar panel company's. Go Green give me a break! All thoses people in congress have millions and will do anything to keep it that way.
I don't mind helping out failing companies, but to hand over money and not REGULATE, I know a dirty word, what do you think will happen...it will go into the pockets of the CEO....and NO bonuses for ANYONE in the management...all bonus money goes back into the company or divided among the employees....
These fat cats at the top knows how to take away their money, regardless if the company loses money. That is why any government bailout money needs to be regulated and refunded with penalties if not spent into the company as was meant for.