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Subscribe to RSSWith three weeks to go to avoid the fiscal cliff, President Barack Obama will travel to a Detroit auto plan and attempt to sell his plan to raise taxes on the top two percent of Americans.
The “fiscal cliff” end game… If there’s going to be a deal, Obama, Boehner, and Congress need to start the heavy lifting ASAP… Kristol vs. the Wall Street Journal on caving on the tax rates… Motoring! Obama delivers remarks at 2:00 pm ET at a Detroit Diesel plant in Redford, MI… And in Michigan, the president will set foot in the state featuring the nation’s latest labor battle… The hits keep on coming for Susan Rice… The upcoming immigration push… Hillary and 2016… And meet Markwayne Mullen.
*** The end game: We’ve told you that the last couple of weeks in Washington’s fiscal debate have mostly been about P.R. and posturing. Like a student in college or a reporter working in the news business, the real work in Congress typically doesn’t happen until there’s a real deadline that’s rapidly approaching. Well, we’ve now entered that deadline phase in the negotiations between President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner. If the plan is to get something passed by Friday, Dec. 21 (right before the Christmas holiday), then the legislation has to be written by Dec. 18. And that means that Obama and Boehner must reach an agreement by Dec. 14-15, if there’s going to be a deal. So the time for posturing and P.R. is over. This week, we’ve reached the phase where both sides will begin rolling up their sleeves to do the heavy negotiating. Both Obama and Boehner know this, which is why they did meet behind closed doors yesterday. The question now is: Will there be a BIG deal that includes serious entitlement hits in addition to major tax reform? Or will it be JUST taxes and a punt until the debt ceiling? There’s not much of an “in between” at this point.
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Speaker of the House John Boehner, R-Ohio, talks with reporters outside his office in the Capitol Dec. 7, 2012 in Washington, DC.
*** Kristol vs. the Wall Street Journal: In addition to yesterday’s news that the president and the speaker met, Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) became the latest GOP lawmaker to suggest that Republicans acquiesce on raising tax rates on the wealthy to get entitlement cuts. And that’s a stance the Wall Street Journal’s editorial page today criticizes. “So it's a shame that Republicans are playing into Mr. Obama's hands, negotiating in public among themselves, prematurely giving up on the tax issue and undermining House Speaker John Boehner in the process. Mr. Obama isn't going to blink on the budget if he thinks Republicans are going to blink first, and so far the emerging GOP position seems to be to surrender on taxes first and hope Mr. Obama will have mercy on them later on entitlements.” But the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol hits back at the Journal. “Most Republicans will go along soon after January 1 with what will now be the Democrats' tax cutting agenda. If the House Republicans now follow the Wall Street Journal editors over the cliff, the only effect, I'm afraid, will be to turn a manageable tactical retreat in December into a panicked strategic rout in January.” There is good news for Boehner in all of this: The lack of consensus among conservatives gives Boehner more running room to cut the deal he thinks is best, rather than over-worrying about specific conservative constituencies. Remember, the House GOP leadership won’t say it publicly, but they’ve signaled privately that under the RIGHT circumstance, they’d go to the floor of the House with less than a majority of the majority.
Former Michigan Republican Governor John Engler, who is the president of the business roundtable, joins The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd to talk about President Barack Obama's trip the Michigan, the fiscal cliff, and Michigan's 'right to work' law.
*** Motoring! Your White House fiscal-cliff photo-op of the day takes place in Michigan, where the president delivers remarks at a Daimler Detroit Diesel plant at 2:00 pm ET in Redford. Per the Detroit Free Press, Daimler, which owns Detroit Diesel, is announcing “a new investment to expand U.S. production and jobs... The White House said the investment is expected to be $100 million or more and, with it, Daimler Trucks North America will become the first heavy-duty vehicle equipment manufacturer on the continent to build a fully integrated powertrain from on production facility.” So today’s even will be a mixture of the fiscal cliff and this Daimler news.
*** Michigan’s labor battle: Yet when Obama visits Michigan, he’ll be setting foot in the state featuring the nation’s latest labor battle. “With Michigan lawmakers poised Tuesday to give final passage of right-to-work legislation, unions and their supporters plan to mass outside the Capitol that day as part of a last-ditch bid to derail the fast-moving campaign to limit labor's power,” the Detroit News says. “If lawmakers reconcile the bills and pass a final version Tuesday — as expected — Gov. Rick Snyder has said he will sign it, making Michigan the 24th right-to-work state and dealing a major blow to organized labor in one of its traditional strongholds.” Out of all the new Republican governors who were elected in 2010, Michigan’s Rick Snyder was always viewed as the least ideological of the bunch. So when Scott Walker in Wisconsin, John Kasich in Ohio, or Rick Scott in Florida were pursuing controversial changes and legislation and confronting the labor movement, Snyder -- who calls himself “one tough nerd” -- stayed away from the ideological wars and focused on the economy. In fact, he even appeared to support Obama’s auto bailout. But now the Michigan governor finds himself knee deep in the same kind of controversy we saw in Wisconsin and Ohio. By the way, while we do expect Snyder to greet the president at the airport, don’t expect to see Snyder with the president at the Chrysler event because it’s taking place at a UAW facility.
*** Hits keep coming for Rice: It’s no longer Benghazi, or even the Keystone XL Pipeline. Critics of Susan Rice are now pointing to the Obama administration’s failure to intervene in the atrocities in the Democratic Republic of Congo. The New York Times: “Specifically, these critics — who include officials of human rights organizations and United Nations diplomats — say the administration has not put enough pressure on Rwanda’s president, Paul Kagame, to end his support for the rebel movement whose recent capture of the strategic city of Goma in Congo set off a national crisis in a country that has already lost more than three million people in more than a decade of fighting. Rwanda’s support is seen as vital to the rebel group, known as M23.” And the Times reports that Rice has been viewed as shielding Kagame. And then there’s a New York Times op-ed from journalist Salem Solomon, who accuses Rice of showing “a surprising and unsettling sympathy for Africa’s despots.” This is the problem for Rice as long as President Obama doesn’t officially appoint her (or John Kerry) to fill the secretary of state position: She’s dangling like a piñata for critics to whack, without an official campaign to defend her. But with the fiscal cliff taking up more and more time and this secretary of state issue becoming such a headache for the administration, there’s a very real chance the president doesn’t announce any new cabinet members until AFTER the new year.
*** The upcoming immigration push: Over the weekend, the Los Angeles Times noted that the Obama White House is preparing for a big push on comprehensive immigration reform after the “fiscal cliff” negotiations end. “Senior White House advisors plan to launch a social media blitz in January, and expect to tap the same organizations and unions that helped get a record number of Latino voters to reelect the president. Cabinet secretaries are preparing to make the case for how changes in immigration laws could benefit businesses, education, healthcare and public safety. Congressional committees could hold hearings on immigration legislation as soon as late January or early February.” More: “Democratic strategists believe there is only a narrow window at the beginning of the year to get an initiative launched in Congress, before lawmakers begin to turn their attention to the next election cycle and are less likely to take a risky vote on a controversial bill.”
*** Hillary and 2016: On Sunday, the New York Times ran a “Hillary 2016” story, and we all should prepare for these kind of stories once a month until she decides to run (or not) for president. “Right now, aides and friends say, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s plan looks like this: exit the State Department shortly after Inauguration Day and then seclude herself to rest and reflect on what she wants to do for the next few years. Those who have invited her for 2013 engagements have been told not to even ask again until April or May.” The Times does make this important point: If she does want to keep the presidential door open, her options are limited. “The more serious she is about 2016, the less she can do — no frank, seen-it-all memoir; no clients, commissions or controversial positions that could prove problematic. She will be under heavy scrutiny even by Clinton standards, discovering what it means to be a supposedly private citizen in the age of Twitter. With the election four years away — a political eon — she will have to tend and protect her popularity, and she may find herself in a cushy kind of limbo, unable to make many decisions about her life until she makes the big one about another White House try.”
*** Meet Markwayne Mullin: NBC’s Carrie Dann has profiled 10 new members to watch in the next Congress. Today’s profile: Markwayne Mullen. When his father's illness forced Mullin to quit college and take over the family plumbing business, the 20-year-old and his wife turned a flailing enterprise into a small eastern Oklahoma empire. Mullin, now 35, won the House seat vacated by retiring Rep. Dan Boren, running under the banner "A rancher. A businessman. Not a politician!" The Tulsa native -- a social conservative who vehemently opposes "amnesty" proposals -- has promised to take a no-frills attitude to the halls of Congress. Casually dressed on election night, he joked with supporters that he defied his campaign staff's request that he wear a suit to deliver his victory speech. "They got me this far, and boots are going to take me all the way there and bring me all the way back" from Washington, he said.
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There may be one exception,,TX they had oil at one time,and it does have good univ,but it's also divided,a lot of dumb asses down there in trailer parks too.cowboys,,and bush mhaha hehe hoho red states are simple minded fat ugly low life simpletons,,like George the troll fawk
NewsBusters: Newt Gingrich Schools Lawrence O'Donnell On Clinton Tax Hikes
Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich on Sunday gave Lawrence O'Donnell a much-needed education on the economic impact of the Bill Clinton tax hikes in the '90s.
As O'Donnell precipitated the exchange, he perfectly demonstrated why MSNBC commentators are far too liberally biased to be invited on NBC's Meet the Press
DAVID GREGORY: Lawrence, this-- this idea of how much room the president is willing to give becomes a big question because he wants-- based on what I’m hearing, he wants Boehner to say, okay I give-- I give on the rates. And then he-- maybe he’ll talk a little more.
So Gregory's question for O'Donnell was about Boehner and the fiscal cliff negotiations. Rather than answer that, O'Donnell chose to attack one of his fellow panelists:
LAWRENCE O’DONNELL, MSNBC: The problem for Boehner is how does he give on rates. He said this the other day I oppose tax rate increases because tax rate increases cost American jobs. That gives you no room to give on rates. It is, by the way, not an original thought. Who said this? The tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession, and the recession will force people out of work and onto unemployment and actually increase the deficit? That’s Newt Gingrich in 1993 on the Clinton tax increase. And those of us who were working on the other side of that tax increase, Newt, have been waiting for your apology for 20 years for being completely wrong about that.
So O'Donnell took this opportunity to go after one of his fellow panelists rather than answer Gregory's question.
This seems typical of MSNBC commentators when they're on Meet the Press thereby making one wonder why they're even invited.
Fortunately, Gingrich was up to the challenge:
NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Well, I don’t agree with you.
MR. O’DONNELL: Well with the-- but the economy soared, no one lost a job…
MR. GINGRICH: Baloney.
MR. O’DONNELL:…because of that tax increase.
MR. GINGRICH: Baloney. Baloney.
MR. O’DONNELL: There was no recession. You said there would be a recession.
MR. GINGRICH: You now see the case.
MR. O’DONNELL: There was no recession.
MR. GINGRICH: The fact is if you look at all the indicators the day I was elected speaker, virtually all the economic growth occurs after Republicans take control, virtually all the increase in the stock-- the matter of fact, all the increase in the stock market is after Republicans take control.
MR. O’DONNELL: You did not reduce the rates, Newt?
MR. GINGRICH: And-- and when we balanced-- wait a second.
MR. O’DONNELL: You said the rates would cause a recession.
MR. GINGRICH: When we balanced the-- when we balanced the budget, we balanced the budget with a tax cut not a tax-- four consecutive balanced budgets with a tax cut, not a tax increase.
In reality, this has been an ongoing battle between liberals and conservatives for years about this issue with the former believing that Clinton's tax hikes ushered in prosperity and the latter thinking it was the tax cuts and spending restraint that happened after the Republicans took over Congress in 1995.
Hopeless shills like O'Donnell conveniently ignore that in December 2010, Clinton himself went before the nation at a joint press conference with President Obama saying that it wasn't a good time for the economy to go back to his tax rates thereby brokering a deal to extend the Bush tax cuts for two years.
Beyond this, we have for at least a year - and much more so since Election Day - witnessed Democrats and their media minions such as O'Donnell demanding that America not reimpose Clinton's rates on 98 percent of the nation.
If these rates were responsible for the '90s economic expansion, shouldn't the left including O'Donnell be advocating that they be completely reenacted now?
Sadly, such logic escapes them.
As for Gingrich, he was quite accurate when he said the economy did better in the '90s after the Republicans took control of Congress, in particular after the '97 tax cuts.
In fact, the Gross Domestic Product shrank in the first year after the Clinton tax hikes to an annual rate of 2.9 percent down from 1992's 3.4 percent.
That's right: the economy as measured by GDP was better the year before Clinton took office and raised taxes than it was the year after.
By far the best years under Clinton came after the Republican tax cuts when the GDP grew annually by 4.5 percent, 4.4 percent, 4.8 percent, and 4.1 percent from 1997 to 2000.
The best job creation also occurred after the Republicans took over Congress with less than seven million new jobs created in 1993 and 1994 compared to over sixteen million in the next six years.
As for the fiscal impact of the Clinton tax hikes, the left always ignores that we ran budget deficits in his first term. It was only after the Republican tax cuts that surpluses occurred.
As for the stock market, Gingrich was of course correct that it did far better after the Republicans took over Congress than the two years when the Democrats controlled everything:
Looking at that chart of the S&P 500, it looks like the stock market rally began right after Election Day 1994 when Republicans won their historic victory.
But don't tell O'Donnell that. Like most of his colleagues on MSNBC, he's deathly allergic to facts.
Making Bill Gates pay an additional 3% on his income will not make one bit of difference to the economy but it will reduce the deficit.
That's just common sense, regardless of how the right wing argues it isn't.
Raise $80-160B/yr and you still have a deficit of $1T!!! So you see. Taxes are not the problem, spending is!!
Mark
Bill Gates doesn't earn an income. He is retired and has Capital Gains and other types of earnings.
Bait and switch.
Explain why total tax revenue and receipts as a percentage of GDP is the lowest its been since the 1950s.
Yup! Its ALL about spending in that statement.
The plan by the 1%ers is to bait you, switch the topic from their record earnings while paying @!$%# for wages and benefits (if you're lucky to get them) and divide and conquer us all.
The tax issue is a statement to you 1%ers to reverse your tyrannical non-paying minds or face the tax man.
Sides don't matter in this. The "people" in Washington are playing with American lives - 'we the people' mean nothing to the politicians. All of this childishness needs to be set aside and decisions made that will visibly, quickly and positively impact all Americans, especially the working poor. When people work and still can't pay for necessities and one or two special things - something is fundamentally wrong with how the world is being manipulated by those in a position to make a difference.
It's not like those in control don't already have more than anyone could ever truly need or want - it is simple greed and power hunger. So very sad.
In the why we are in the mess we are in department.
2010--Oblamo gives 249 million of our taxpayer money to battery maker A123 and says it will help the recovery.
flash forward to 2012 A123 filed for bankruptcy and guess who bought it--- the friggin CHINESE!!!!! and they get our 249 million.
Yeah Oblamobots the vote for me and its free is going to put us in the same boat as French, Greece, Spain, and all the rest about to go bust.
Keep believing the fairly tale that taxing the rich will make it all better.
Hey, you lost. Get over it. Move on.
So this is why we are in the mess we are in. Wow glad you clarified that for everybody
you trolls are just so oblivious to reality its frightening.
unrelated, but WTF
I don’t care for old Warren, but I must admit I agree with this. The same should be true for the President and the Supreme Court.
Warren Buffet is asking everyone to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in the U.S. will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
We're ALL in this mess together ... it's up to us to fix it ... for our kids! Read and pass on to 20 of your friends...
Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling ...
"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that any time there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election." The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months and 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.
Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure. Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message.
This is one idea that really should be passed around. Congressional Reform Act of 2012
1. No Tenure/No Pension
A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security
system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with
Congressmen/women. Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Don't you think it's time ?
THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!
If you agree, pass it on. If not, delete. You are one of my 20+ ... please keep it going, and thanks! We're ALL in this mess together ... it's up to us to fix it “It is not only what we do, but also what we do not do, for which we are accountable.” - Moliere
Ah yes, a spam email posted for everyone, supposedly supported by Warren Buffet who actually started this class warfare filth by leaving out the FACT that he pays taxes based on capital gains while his secretary pays taxes based on income, and the ONLY way she could be paying a higher tax rate than him is if she was making OVER $200,000 a year, AFTER deductions.
While there are some parts of this spam that seem to be "good" ideas, overall it's the usual garbage from a man worth Billions that actually says he's willing to pay more, but of course DOESN'T unless he's forced to by law.
Oh and by the way, Congress does NOT vote for their pay raises, they actually have to vote to STOP their pay raise.
So Obama finally brings his campaigning, vacationing, golfing @ss back to Washington.
And now we'll have to hear from the White House how Obama is willing to put this nation into ANOTHER recession because he will NOT make any cuts, but instead just wants more of OUR money to spend. And of course it will be the Republicans' fault because they won't do what Obama wants.
And the left? Why they'll actually go along with this class warfare filth, like raising taxes is actually going to cut the record deficits and pay off the record debt that Obama has run up. Of course they'll just look away from the FACT that Obama wants to SPEND any new tax income that he gets and not actually cut any spending whatsoever.
And we'll of course have to listen to the personal attacks and the lying garbage about how it's the Republicans that are the problem, and NOT the overtaxing, overborrowing, over-regulating, overbloated, overspending government that Obama wants and keep pushing.
Over Bushed, Overwarified, overrichtaxbreakafied. You forgot these.
Lady. Taxes ARE going up on the top 2%...marginal tax rates are going to up to Clinton Era levels. One way, or the other.
So, Obama still has NOT hit the same level of campaigning, spending on vacations like President Bush Did. I mean 1000 days, 171 million, all while we had two foreign wars in place and 54 americans were murdered in 12 embassy attacks. Oh wait America.. BUSH never happened... we are supposed to hold OBAMA to higher standards than the Republicans.
Obama has offered 600 BILLION in cuts. You must have missed that Cheryl since it was not on the Faux News Ministry of Lies Handbook.
Of course, we should ignore the GOP voting against a 1 BILLION jobs bill for our veterans (while homlesness among VETERANS is on the rise), while we MUST cut 'entitlements' on little old ladies who are now drawing on the very SS and Medicare they paid into, but we can balance the budget by GIVING another 2 TRILLIOn to our military and keeping our corporate tax cuts for companies that send jobs to other countries.
The only thing Obama should sell is himself, Reid, Pelosi and Boxer to a land far way. Give Obama nothing for nothing as he's only going to spend it and look for more. I rather take the hit now and see where it goes than let this group retire FAT and our children have to face their actions for being the most non responsible people that have ever been in Washington. A president that has relit the devide of people, RACE, religion and even the laws that he uses to suit himself. Here a guys that talks, talks and talks taxes but have the politicians their and around the country have not paid and nothing is done about it. How about a new idea COLLECT the money DUE then beg for more.
who cares what happens if we don't decrease spending. We can't tax enough to make up for this stupid defeciet spending. If the republicans cave and OK an increase in the debt level and Obama keeps uysing that money to buy future votes we're all dead. I will laugh my ass off when this happens and all these idiots who back obama find out he dumped us into a hole we can't get out of. The republicans are no bettter if they cave into his demands just to save votes. No matter what happens it will be blamed on the republicans or god save me "George Bush".
Funny how all the GOP retards took the stimulus money in secrete like lyin Ryan,and other right wing god losers ,what a bunch of losers these turds are,,like George,,lmao
Funny don't here Oblamo talking about A123 and the 249 Million the Chinese have of our money now.
$250,000 is not affected. THIS IS THE TOP 2%. It is not middle class and it is over 5 time median single inclome.
If you make more than $250,000 after all your deductions, all your expenses, after all your tax loopholes, then you are well to do and you do not pay any more taxes.
If you earn, after deductions, $350,000, then you pay an additional $4,600 on $100,000 dollars. '
Most small companies are LLC and a few like mine are SUB S.
My corps have never paid corporate income tax. It is all paid out to employees including myself. We pay the Medicare SS FUTA, State and Unemployment taxes.
We also cover our 17 people with healthcare and it is an expense off the top, and in no way affects taxes.
Maybe you people complaining don't really have businesses or you just need an accountant.
I will gladly pay what we were paying under Clinton. We should pay a minimum and my dividends should stay at 15% until they are over $250K and they too should jump from 15 to 39.6%
That is why WALL STREET is upset.
I can always find expenses to counter additional income through depreciation or just getting more business.
The government, by lowering my taxes, has caused this mess along with the HAWKS like Graham and McCain who trashed 10,000 lives and 1.7 trillion in IRAQ.
WALL STREET like the COMMODITY markets hold us hostage. OIL should be no more than $40 a barrel, NEVER. Wall Street and the Commodity Markets cost American Taxpayers alone $277 BILLION a year out of our pocket books into the richest 1%.
98% of American singles make less than $250K. And not one will be affected by the tax.
A family with a healthy mortgage and averaging $350-450K will also probably not pay a penny more.
If I make an additional $1,000,000 I would happily pay an additional $46,000.
The government employs millions in middle and lower middle class jobs and cutting spending cuts jobs. Focus on waste, and it is every bit in the private sector as in government.
You have fallen for the lies of Obama. Taxes will need to go up on everyone as one component of solving our fiscal mess. The amount of money being talked about from upper income folks is too small to make much of a difference. Higher taxes for all and deep spending cuts, including entitlement reform, are on the way.
Right on Life.
The thought alone makes my skin crawl - YUK!
Yep, she's all old and wrinkly and ugly now, can you imagine what she would be like by 2020. Scary thought!
It looks like Obama is starting to cave a bit. He knows that his petulance on this matter is starting to wear thin with the American people
Oh, and Mrability, I have you on IGNORE and cannot read you kind words.
Rex - What's it like under that rock?
Ols cheating god sucking newt,,another parasite living off his time in the house before he was thrown out. Looooser
Fawk this old fool,may a tain hit him. Loooser
What's all this "end game" bull@!$%#? There are three weeks left till the end of the year. This is too important for GOP to be singing Christmas carols while they are sunning their skinny butts in aruba. They should work THROUGH the holiday if its necessary to avoid this looming disaster. SCREW THEM
"They should work THROUGH the holiday" Why where will BO-DUMBO be??
Hang in there, GOP! Even though the Democrats won the Presidency, Senate, and more votes for the House of Representatives, gerrymandering allowed you guys to keep more seats in the House - and isn't that all you need for a mandate? Don't compromise between your beliefs and the will of the people!
At least half the country is not willing to swallow the poison that Obama is trying to foist onto us.
At least LESS than half....... fixed it for ya, Rex.
Rex - You forget, you lost by 4% points, 52-48.....an electorial rout....and somehow you are boasting somehow we should listen to you. What a joke..
You, my friend are on the losing end....no one listens or cares what YOU think....got it.
Newts mom should have aborted his fat ugly cheating parasite,ass
Ah yes, another "tolerant", "open", "respectful", progressive heard from.
Ilook forward to 8 years of Hillary after Obama
What do get when you buy a "Hillary"?
Two small breasts, two huge thighs, and a lot of left wing.
That'll be what, 12 more years for you sucking a living off producers
she couldn't do any worse
According to data on the BLS website, when Obama was sworn into office in January 2009, total non-farm employment in this country stood at 133,561,000. As of the November 2012 BLS report just released total non-farm employment in the U.S. was 133,852,000.
That means that there are only 291,000 more people working in November 2012 than January 2009 when Obama took office, some 4 million fewer jobs than needed for Obama to claim things have not gotten worse since became President as the economy must add close to 100,000 jobs per month to stay even to account for population growth. 350,000 people dropped out of the labor force in November. If the labor participation rate (percentage of adults in the workforce) were at a normal level and not the lowest in 3 decades, our unemployment rate would be well over 10%.
Obamanomics has been a disaster for those in the middle class as well as those on the bottom rungs of the economic ladder.
As opposed to losing hundreds of thousands of jobs per month under the last republican leader?
Great math Peter
You don't think 378 fillibusters have anything to do wit it do you? Not one jobs bill from the house in 4 years.
Peter17 - The participation rate was going to go down drastically regardless of what the GOP administration left us with. Right now the baby boomers are retiring in masses, and that was going to happen regardless. That's what you are seeing, it's not all because they can't find a job. I retired two years ago, because I had planned well and was able to. Many others like me have done the same and will continue.
Don't forget, we lost millions of jobs from Jan 2009 thru Sept 2009, and while Obama was president during that time, those job losses occurred before he was ablle to change anything, they were a by product of the Bush Fiasco... Those 3 million jobs if you count them correctly gives them a 3+ million dollar job growth.
And if you really don't like the pace of the economy blame the GOP who's done nothing to help. It would be one thing if they just sat on the sidelines and let the Dems try, but no, they have done everythinng that could to make the recovery as bad as it could be....and it's not lost on me or the other 52% that voted for Obama.
This is the worst assessment of the situation I've ever seen. It's like you're in denial that Bush's policies were bringing us 800,000 job losses a month. I seem to remember quite well that Obama took office when unemployment was surging ahead. I'll take slow growth over economic disaster.
Also keep in mind that the government plans out budgets in advance. If you're suggesting that Obama is responsible for the millions and millions of job losses incurred during the time from his election through his first few months, you shouldn't have even graduated middle school. That's not how things work.
Hey Republicans! You Lost the election so just stop the obstructionism and do your job which is to serve the American public not Grover Norquist.
Sorry Johnny, but we still retain the House. Obama is doing the obstruction bit by insisting on his way or over the cliff we go.
His way is what the public chose. The Republicans just cant stand to see thier greedy Norquist pledge get crapped on. Thats the facts jack
Hey Johnny, why is it you say that Republicans are "obstructionist" when Harry Reid and DEMOCRATS have not voted on a single budget for the past THREE YEARS and have tabled every budget passed by the House for the past TWO YEARS?
Why are the Republicans the "obstructionists" when Harry Reid has TABLED every bill passed by the House for the past TWO YEARS, including JOBS BILLS?
Why is the Republicans that are the "obstructionists" when it's OBAMA that's saying that he will VETO any bill that cuts spending and doesn't raise tax rates on the rich even though Republicans have said they will close loopholes to accomplish the EXACT same thing?
Why is it the Republicans that are "obstructionist" when the Democrats are the ones saying that they WANT to go over the "fiscal cliff" rather than cut ANY spending, but instead just want more money to spend?
Why don't you wake up instead of just repeating the moronic "obstructionist" garbage that your "leaders" have told to?
Cheryl: Who won the election? You act like you and the GOP did....at some point you need to face facts.
Ask yourself this, who's responsible for nothing getting done when your party filibustered more legislation in 4 years than the entire 200 years of the countries' existance. Why just yesterday he filibustered himself and his own legislation.
And the budget issue is just a BS talking point for your side. The GOP isn't going to support anything the Dems put out so why waste the time.. And the GOP plan was pure rubbish, it wasn't going to get passed..
Don, sorry to but BO-DUMBO couldnt' even get ONE DEMOCRAT to vote for his last budget, NOT ONE!!
03/28/2012
President Obama's budget was defeated 414-0 in the House
late Wednesday, couldn’t even get one vote democratic vote!
05/16/2012
The U.S. Senate formally rejected President Obama’s 2013 $3.8
trillion budget request Wednesday, along with a series of Republican
alternatives, as Republicans forced votes on the competing budget plans to
highlight Democrats’ failure to advance a formal budget resolution.
In a 99-0 vote, all of the senators present
rejected the president’s blueprint. It’s the second year in a row the Senate
has voted down Obama’s budget. Obama's 2012 budget failed 97 to 0 last May
after Obama himself last April said he wanted deeper deficit cuts.
The GOP,won't see the white house for many many years.
And they will,also Lose many seats along with the simple minded tea bagg as$ holes
We will be a great country once again.
Rex
I bet you live in a red state,in a Tailer boy
Rex I dident put your mom on ignore,,,,haheho
Boehner and Republicans have known before the President got re-elected. They basically were hoping he would go AWAY after the election, WELL he has not and the DEAL still stands.
Boehner is stalling. He has no intentions of Saving the Cliff. Listen to me...."He has no INTENTIONS of making a DEAL".........WE are going off the Cliff, folks.
WE WILL BLAME IT ON REPUBLICANS and WE WILL VOTE THEIR ASSES OUT ....ASAP!
Get ready for NOTHING...........Boehner is just taking up FACE TIME!
He has Already been BOUGHT and PAID for ........Beleive that!
I hope Hilary decides not to run. She is smart, tough and would be like Margaret Thatcher as PM of GB. But would have a lot of though questions about State's handling in Libya, Syria and Central Africa and the do nothing attitude of the Obama administration. It is terrible that so many have to die for the sake of their grand parents being born in the wrong tribe. Genocide is genocide and if we are supporting a dictator that is practicing genocide we need to get on the right side and put a stop to it. no money, no military hardware and no political support. we went there in the Balkans, the difference is Africa is "black" and what do you expect from those people. BHO, the "black hippocrite", its not happening in LA or Detroit so who cares he wants to be percieved as being "from the hood", but he is of Arab decent not African. and the Arabs were theones who caught and sold the blacks to white slave traders. check your history books.
Sorry Rex
You lost son,now get ready for four more years,and another eight with Hillary
You lose you simple minded fawk,,haha hehe hoho dam you GOP tards blow
How intellectual. Personification of the uneducated left.
MRABILITY is here only to incite and stroke his ego. It's time people start clicking on the inflammatory option after clikcing the ! option on the lower right.
Blamo-3823159
After seeing quite a few of your comments on gay marriage, I wouldn't throw stones in a glass house..