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*** The GOP establishment strikes back? An interesting thing has happened in the month since the Republican Party’s losses in the November election: The GOP establishment has struck back -- at least in the short term. Consider the evidence: In the race for GOP conference chair, the establishment-backed Cathy McMorris Rodgers defeated the more conservative Tom Price. John Boehner’s position as speaker seems stronger than it has before. More and more congressional Republicans are signaling that they’re open to raising taxes (as long as they get something in return). And then yesterday, Sen. Jim DeMint, one of the biggest thorns in the GOP establishment’s side, announced that he was leaving the Senate in January to lead the conservative Heritage Foundation. While the DeMint-founded PAC Senate Conservatives Fund backed some of the rising stars in the party (Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz), it also supported candidates that went on to lose potential lay-up contests (Sharron Angle, Ken Buck, Christine O’Donnell, Richard Mourdock). It’s a question worth pondering: Would Mitch McConnell be the incoming majority leader if DeMint’s PAC and activism didn’t exist?
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House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, accompanied by the House GOP leadership, gestures as he speak to reporters on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, Dec. 5, 2012, following a closed-door GOP strategy session. From left are, House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy of Calif., Boehner, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Va.
*** But in the long run, DeMint could make the conservative movement more powerful : Yet the establishment GOP’s new mojo is only a short-term development for now. It’s very possible that, in the long run, DeMint could make the conservative -- and anti-establishment -- movement even stronger from the outside. If Dick Armey could organize conservative forces in 2009-2010, just think what someone like DeMint could do; he very well could turn Heritage into a Club for Growth on steroids. As a prominent conservative told one of us, DeMint could very well “become the CEO of the conservative movement” at Heritage. In fact, DeMint told Rush Limbaugh yesterday that he could have a greater impact on politics from outside the Senate than inside of it. “I believe that I can do more good for the conservative movement outside of the Senate in leveraging the assets of the Heritage Foundation to communicate a more positive, optimistic message to the American people.”
NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro discuss the comeback of the House Republican establishment and Sen. Jim DeMint's resignation to lead the Heritage Foundation.
*** The Senate and its influence: Chew on that quote above for a few minutes. What does it say about the institution of the Senate that a member has more potential power outside of it than inside it? Is it a recognition that if you’re not in leadership, you can’t be as influential as you want to be? That’s always been a reality of the House. But the Senate, too?
*** South Carolina -- the place to be in 2014: With DeMint’s exit, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (R) gets to appoint a successor through 2014. Some of the possibilities: U.S. Rep. Tim Scott (who is African American and is the favorite among many conservatives), U.S. Rep. Mick Mulvaney, former U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett (whom Haley defeated in the 2010 SC GOP GOV runoff), former state Attorney General Henry McMaster (who also competed in that crowded GOV field), state Rep. Nathan Ballentine (a close Haley ally), and the governor's deputy chief of staff Ted Pitts (a former legislator). Perhaps more importantly, South Carolina will have three marquee contests in 2014 -- two Senate seats and a governorship will all be up for grabs, and there are plenty of ambitious state Republicans who want these positions. But it’s also not out of the realm of possibility that a Democrat could emerge to be a player in one of these races, taking advantage of what could turn into some nasty and ugly GOP primaries. If you’re a young political reporter, move to Columbia. It could very well be the most fascinating place to be in 2013-2014. And don’t forget: As an early presidential primary state, 2016 will be impacted by what takes place in the state in 2014.
*** The monthly jobs numbers: 146,000 jobs created in November; unemployment rate drops to 7.7%: You know the presidential election is over when today’s monthly jobs report is far from your top political story of the day. Indeed, the Wall Street Journal calls today’s report the “Least important jobs report in 5 years.” One reason why is that the election is over. Another reason is the potential impact that Hurricane Sandy made. But given Sandy, the numbers are surprisingly strong. The AP: “The U.S. economy added a solid 146,000 jobs in November and the unemployment rate fell to 7.7 percent, the lowest since December 2008. The government said Superstorm Sandy had only a minimal effect on the figures.” Two economists indicated to one of us that Sandy was worth a loss of 80,000-100,000 jobs. So imagine what this report would be without Sandy?
*** The One-Billion-Dollar Men: Politico notes that, with the final numbers in, both Team Obama and Team Romney raised more than $1 billion. “Obama: $1.123 billion vs. Romney: $1.019 billion. That’s the final fundraising tally in the most expensive presidential election ever, according to reports filed Thursday with the Federal Election Commission by the rival campaigns and party committees.”
*** Another labor battle in the Midwest: And here’s the top political story outside of Washington, per the Detroit Free Press: “Michigan, considered the birthplace of the American organized labor movement, was on a fast track to becoming the nation's 24th right-to-work state late Thursday after the state House and Senate passed bills as part of a package to pass the law. Labor and Democrats were pushing back hard against the Workplace Fairness and Equity Act, but the efforts seemed futile as the controversial measures moved like greased lightning -- and without going through committees or public debate -- and could land on Gov. Rick Snyder's desk by next week. The debate raged across Michigan, and the country on Thursday, as to whether the legislation would do what proponents say, bring fairness to workers and spark economic growth; or do as opponents claim, lower wages and benefits and destroy the middle class.”
*** Welcome back, Alan Grayson: NBC’s Carrie Dann has profiled 10 new members to watch in the next Congress. Today’s profile: Alan Grayson (and he’s a familiar face). “He's ba-ack. Alan Grayson, the quotable liberal firebrand whose zippy insults served as cable catnip during his previous stint in Congress, will be back on the Hill again next year. After losing his 2010 re-election bid, Grayson moved to a new Orlando district and sailed to victory this year over Republican Todd Long. The man who disgraced former Rep. Anthony Weiner once labeled as ‘one fry short of a happy meal,’ has garnered frequent outrage for his rhetorical bombs. He was forced to apologize after referring to a banking lobbyist as a ‘K Street whore’; he said Florida Gov. Rick Scott would have ‘blood on his hands’ if he did not implement some parts of the health-care plan; and he accused Republicans of offering only the health-care proposal that sick people should ‘die quickly.’ He was roundly beaten by Republican Daniel Webster in 2010 but will return having won by a 25-point margin in a redrawn district. Cable news bookers, start your engines.”
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Ya know... the reason we believe that politicians and parties lie all the time is because we are often not given all the details and facts to draw our own conclusion. We are being fed incomplete and many times incorrect info in order to sway conversation, debate, and to influence others.
Its not much different on these blogs. Its the very thing that we accuse politicians and parties. We just keep slinging to see what sticks. A little hint who you are paraphrasing or quoting. Or just tell us its your opinion. Otherwise how can anyone make sense of what is factual, fantasy, or lies?
Got a brother-in-law who spews forth his words of wisdom and facts. I always ask him... so where did you hear or read about this? What's your source? I'd like to know so I can catch up with you and be informed.
He quickly moves on with his diatribe... Of course, he is the resident expert in his own mind.
LG,
Good point.
I have no idea as to how my brother has any skin on his knuckles at hall.
His repsonse to any request for substantiation is "becasue I said so". Just like the devil. I digress.
When I post something on a forum, I try to write only in axioms.
If I had to, I could go back and provide a footnote for every statement that I make. It is far too slow a process to do for every sentence in every Internet post, but if you write a PhD Thesis that is not written in axioms (with footnotes) you have to back and do it again until it does. The process can take years. Some people do a PhD thesis in one year. They are extremely rare.
For those of you ready to sling your barbs I have a B Fa and a MS. No BS here.
Hopefully the rules will point themselves in the right direction. It is up to all of us.
LG sounds just like my brother-in-law although I know where his comes from had to suffer to many fox news, o'riley,and glen beck, shows at his house.
Thanks endrust. My academic and administrative career experience in higher ed sometimes demands a source for loose statements of fact (or fiction). I'm good with opinions... everyone has them.
I end up searching the web when someone makes an off the wall statement without providing a source. Yes, I am one of those people. If you're going to put it out there, I'm going to look it up.
Anyway... I thrive on a good discussion and debate... with credible sources.
@2833 clark.
Since you know very little about me... I don't know if I should be offended or flattered... until you brought up Fox News, O'Reilly, Beck, etc. You associate me with those sources... then I will not be pleased!
You got a problem with disclosing your sources...?
Nooo LG was talking about my brother-in-law his opinion is the only one that matters to him and those are his information sources.
MY sourses are CBS,NBC,FOX news The Huffington Post,Washington Post, and anything I can find or read about then try to weed through the spin and slant to find the truth.
Every now and then I enjoy the satire of The Onion, Jon Stewart, etc.
NY Times, Huffington Post, Washington Post, etc are my daily reads. But generally receptive and inquisitive to explore all the news across the board. My job requires a lot of reading for breadth and depth. So I enjoy inquiry and exploration for details.
No one can find Fox News on TV's in our home. I hid those channels on the guide. It annoys some of the relatives from Florida and Alabama when they visit. Its like they can't live without FauxNews in the background... and that's a fact.
I doubt DeMint will be more powerful in a far right think tank. That 'secretely funded by the Koch brothers' brand of conservativitism lost the last time. It will never garner enough support to mean much.
Who are these evil Koch brothers and what viewpoints of theirs are so problematic?
They are the type of people who think Ann Rand was a philosopher.
Glad that Dement leaving to sell his influence to the highest bidder is good news for the moderates in GOP. The GOP needs to get rid of more radical TP members.
Radical as in wanting to follow the constitution? I believe you watch to much news and need to inform yourself and come up with your own conclusions. The tea party want's poloticians to follow the rules and the law nothing more nothing less.
Some accuse me of attacking a false conspiracy, of having a “conspiracy theory” mentality. Is there a real “conspiracy”? Well lets consider if there is any merit in thinking there is one, as being supported by the facts, not convoluted by ambiguous numbers. We know that the country’s wealth is becoming increasingly held, more and more, by the few. We know the likes of Grover Norquist exists for the sole purpose of intimidating and coercing Republicans to squelch their individual consciences and to force their firm support for the Party’s positions. We have seen Cheney, Rove, the Koch brothers and several others join in this pressuring of their own to assure unified support for their positions, even to forcing moderates, like Stowe and Lugar, out. We understand that these people and many more like Adelson provide an abundance of mega-millions for the purpose of supporting the candidates they can control and opposing those they can’t (they have even said that they can “make or break’ anyone), as well as for developing and promoting the extensive propaganda used to con the people and manipulate public opinion. We have seen they go to great lengths to provide “puppet” candidates who are committed to “doing as their strings are pulled”; with Norquist even stating that “the next Republican president would only have to be qualified to sign the bills they send him”.
We hear them spout their scripted propaganda with it being repeated - word for word - by all of their people. We see how they arrogantly fault and stubbornly block all efforts, belligerently withholding bipartisan cooperation, no matter what the cost to the people; even to exaggerating attacks for questionable purpose, like seen with McCain and Graham in their over zealous criticism of S. Rice. We know all of their positions always have real benefit for “the money” who strongly support them. We have seen were people like the Koch brothers initiated, encouraged and funded the Tea Party Movement, the Swift-boat propaganda and the manipulation of the “conservative” Christian, all aimed to sway people in the same single direction. We see the stubbornness and arrogance of the likes of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Michelle Backmann and others as they protect the interests of “the money” and ignore their responsibility to the majority. We saw the concentration by Bush-Cheney on serving only “the money” and experienced the costs of that.
We can recognize the consistency in all of this and can really feel the organization behind it. We even see the cooperative support from the likes of Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, Hannity, FOXNews and others and wonder how they are compensated. We hear their constant faulting of “liberalness”, blaming government spending, “big government” and the deficit as the only evil but never hear any recognition that our problems are really the direct result of exploitation by the few, that resulted from permissive policies labeled as “conservative”, that encouraged and allowed run-away greed, gross dishonesty and self-indulgence, with the few always walking away with substantial gains and leaving the losses/costs to the majority. Is all of this evidence of a “conspiracy” - everyone will have to decide that for themselves, recognizing that there really is ample justification to consider it. For myself, I’m not against “conservative” policies, I am against having a subservient government catering only to the interests of the few, with “puppet” politicians serving “the money”, their masters, and neglecting their responsibilities to the people.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/congressman-torn-between-meaningless-pledge-to-ant,30539
Congressman Torn Between Meaningless Pledge To Anti-Tax Zealot, Well-Being Of Nation
Did you copy and paste that from the onion? You know the onion is not real news right?
@sonmanvb...
I was hoping you would give me a little more credit than that. Of course... I enjoy the satire. Its another way of making a statement.
Yay, the unemployment numbers are down! That probably means a couple million more people have given up looking for jobs because there aren't any. Yay! Or maybe Obama put them on disability insurance so they don't appear on unemployment to make him look good at the expense of the taxpayer. Yay! Oh, and Walmart doesn't want unions to ruin their business like unions have DESTROYED whole sectors of our economy...remember how we use to have profitable steel, textile, and auto industries? Remember that? Unions have DESTROYED more jobs in America than any other entity. PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS have and are currently BANKRUPTING our municipalities. A new poll says 53% of Demorats think that Socialism is a good thing. 53% of Dems are idiots. Actually the number is much higher. Dems don't understand that CAPITALISM has brought more people out of poverty then any other system. Dems are ignorant. Period.
The bottom line is that the states with right to work laws have the highest levels of poverty, the highest percentages of people receiving food stamps, medicaid and housing subsidies. They also have the lowest levels of well-educated people. They send the fewest numbers of high school graduates to college. In short, the people paying minimum wage without benefits reap larger profits, but the cost to the state and federal governments is very high.
When people receive good wages and benefits, they pay higher taxes. They send their kids to college. They don't need food stamps or housing subsidies. Poverty levels go down, which means people buy more "stuff" which in turn feeds the economy of the state and the profits of business and everyone wins. Paying starvation wages is a short term gain for business, because profits go up for a while, but then, because no one has the disposable income to buy anything other than basic necessities, business inevitable suffers because they can't sell product.
It really is basic economics. The more people who have money, the more money there is for everyone. If two thirds of your population is living in poverty your entire economy is on a downward slide.
When I was growing up you worked for some kind of education, then started in a relative to experience paying job and worked your way up to where around 40ish.....you were hitting good pay. People want good pay right out of the gate with no experience.
underemployed===You know I get on some of these sites everyday and I have read many different articles about union viruses non-union. I got to tell you the unions aren't as great as many unions members claim they are. If you want to look at the unions and their cost you need to be a contractor. If you are lucky enough to get to that point then you realize just how bad unions are the the general contracting firms around this country.
underemployed -
You definitely do not understand economics...
Are you underemployed or delusional about your value???
Smokie,
I've been on the management side of labor negotiations. I've been frustrated, angry, resentful, and just plain confused by unions. At the same time, I believe that labor needs a unified front when negotiating wages and benefits. Unions are not inherently evil. Bosses are not inherently evil. Individual employees have very little power when it comes to negotiating wages with a big money corporation. Only a unified organizational model can offset the power of the corporate structure. If you want to regulate the way unions can negotiate, that might work for me. But when I look at the poverty levels in the right to work states, it is obvious to me that a union free environment doesn't work very well. Poverty is not good for any of us. People living in poverty don't pay federal taxes. They don't pay state taxes, and they don't buy very much, so they don't even pay a whole lot of sales taxes. You need the people of your state to be well paid because underpaid workers reduce the money flow for everyone else, and they are a drain on the economy.
Walmart is frequently used as an example, but there are many, many businesses that are paying minimum wage, and a lot of them only provide part time employment. In the right to work states, there just aren't very many jobs that pay well. So saying that the minimum wage job is a temporary job is not true. If minimum wage is the only game in town, where are you going to go to move up the economic ladder?
My son recently changed jobs. His is a skilled profession, and he left his previous job because his employer kept reducing the amount of wages while demanding more from his employees. Fortunately, my son's skill allowed him to quit and go somewhere he could double his income and work reasonable hours. But we live in a large urban area where his skills are in demand. In a rural county, the employer might have been able to get away with this, but here, he basically had 80% of his work force turn in their resignations. Now he's scrambling to survive without the employees he needs to fulfill his contracts. Greed didn't work out too well for him.
I find it hard to justify paying people less money than they need to survive. I'm not talking about huge amounts of money, but any full time job should provide you with enough money to have a roof over your head and food on your table and access to decent medical care. If someone is willing to work forty hours a week, they shouldn't have to work with an empty stomach.
The Teabeggers put their the tax pledge to "Goofy Grover." Over their pledge to the US Constitution, the American People, the US Economy, and to the Office Of The Presidency. The Teabeggers will never bread their "Blood Oath" to destroy the US Economy, the American People, and the US Constitution. Hey! Hey Ho! Ho! The Party Of NO has got to go!!
Dear Ohio 8th district voters: Why did you send an orange clown to represent you in Congress? You can do a lot better. Please send us a man or woman of ethics next time around. Your previous vote is hurting the nation, not just your district. Thank you for you attention to this request. Forget about request, we are begging you to reconsider. Have a heart. Thank you again.
@Greg - Republicans could not do any worse to your state than a sucession of democratic party failures!
SeniorJoe: Yeah, that's why the public keeps electing Democrats. Are you the guy who said, "Keep your federal government hands off my Social Security??!!??" If you're a senior citizen and voting Republican, then you need to be shipped to the funny farm! My God, can you not see that the Party is OWNED by Grover Norquist and his ilk of 1% of the wealthiest American plutocrats who want to keep ALL the wealth. If it weren't for the Democrats, you wouldn't have either Social Security OR Medicare! What are you thinking??!!??
I see the libfest players are here, wheres ole fister? sitting on the dunnie with a douche bag operational and a bag o popcorn
Exactly correct, Kannin however the following helps explain a bit----------4ward
Very good definition, great new word. however low info. voters won't be able to spell it correctly & they will probably think it is a new Obama phone app.
I suppose we should just,
"Get used too it"
So libbies, one question ? with a premise of course.
After sequester and cuts to defense, and A raise in the debt limit, + possible down grade in our credit rating. Eminently, resulting in lost faith in the Us gov't bonds held by the various creditors/countries "China" in particular.
Here is the question.
What should we do when one morning, we awaken to 60+ Chinese aircraft carriers and support craft surrounding our country, and a delegation of oriental Ambassador's in Washington DC with a message from Beijing to transport All Of Our precious metals/gold from Ft.Knox to the port of New Orleans for shipment to China??? Shall we just nuke them? lol How many nuclear submarines do they have, built with American steel??? "Just Askin"
Defense spending per year by country:
1: $711 billion - United States.
2: $143 billion - China
3: $72 billion - Russia
You may verify the numbers by Googling on "defense spending by country".
Thus, we could cut our military spending in half and still exceed the expenditures of numbers 1 and 2 combined.
I'm not worried about finding 60+ Chinese aircraft carriers surrounding our country.
convenientliesyoubelieve: Well, your name says it all, doesn't it! Do you just sit about all day and night and dream up one BS conspiracy theory after another? ton-CounterANovel.com just above has given you the real figures. Let me just add one more. The Chinese have just commissioned their ONE aircraft carrier. We have thirteen in service. geeeeeeeeezzzzz... Either FOX or some BS far right wing, extremist, fanatical website has influenced you or you're telling them. Grow up, dope!
An observation: We see numbers often being used to support given positions, as if numbers are absolute. In politics both sides consistently do it. Numbers are important but the reality is that numbers by themselves are not the same thing as numbers put together in a presentation. Figures can be selectively manipulated for purpose; as the saying goes, “figures don’t lie but liars figure”. Actually common sense is probably more accurate than numbers alone but for common sense to be clear biases, prejudices, emotions and blind loyalties have to be set aside. At the minimum, common sense likely provides good insight for when not to trust number presentations, when to question them and to look closely at the bias behind them.
All Good points! If we go back to Clinton taxes should we not then move all of the polocies as they were then as well? no Obama care! Gramm Leach Blily act would be over turned. That one single bill that Clinton signed on his last days has allowed Obama to say "Bush polocies got us in this mess" yet he has never pointed to one policy of Bush, because it was Clinton that got us in the mess!
The first cuts that should be made are congresses salary. The second should be their pensions. In fact we are their boss so let's pay them minimum wage since they do less than minimum work.
The federal Government could pay everyone, who is unemployed six hundred dollars per week tax free for two years! Then take 28% from the top, and give that to the states each week, not to be paid back! to help them pay their budget deficits, and to hire city and state workers! This will stabilize all the states, and it would stimulate the economy, while generating more tax revenues! Allow these people to work, while collecting this money, but pay taxes on any money they earn while working! This will stimulate business, and create more demand for manufacturing; while generating more taxes! The taxes the country, would take in with so much demand in the markets would generate money to pay off the budget deficit. This would be a perfect time to cut waste and reduce federal spending with the majority of the country receiving the money they need to live and pay their bills. this might sound a little crazy, but If you think about it, it would save on food stamps and other monies the government and states would not have to pay, like unemployment, food stamps, housing subsidies, and it would keep crime down saving money in less court cases, and housing criminals etc. It would pump billions of dollars into the markets each week for two years. This plan would more than pay for itself, while helping to rebuild the lower wage earners, and people who have lost everything in this recession! It would also leave all the states in A really stabile condition, as the wars wind down, and the people returning to their families, who have fought in these wars start to look for work, they should at this point have a much better chance to find work! This plan could solve a lot of problems the country is facing.
Everyone would benefit by this ! They could also give these people new cars, and smaller size trucks that they would be required to pay one hundred dollars per month, for two years, to own them,saving the government, some of the cost ! This would save them money at the pump, reduce carbon, save them money in repairs, and upkeep; It would boost manufacturing, the tire companies would make millions of tires, the monthly service would help small and big business, and the cities would also benefit selling tags-and the insurance companies would get a boost, this would be a good way to restart this economy!
The GOP is pursuing the status quo. Installing DeMitt at Heritage is like installing John Bolton to the UN.
They are telegraphing their future philosophy. More fire and brimstone.
To anyone paying attention to what's going on, the republican party is getting worse not better.
we must go over anyway but bummer doesn't realize that doing so will break almost every promise he made
Well good, that's a load off my mind only one 1 I just, I just did, I just didn't know. Actually I did know that But I also knew it would get your attention lol apparently. however my ploy was merely factious in fact and my point is still the same when the Chinese submarines show up, being the largest fleet of formerly american steel. now "underwater peoples republic predators"... Give Us Your Gold
CHINA’S SUBMARINE FLEET NOW LARGEST IN WORLD?
The first link below (sent to me by an alert reader) is an important analysis of the capabilities of the Chinese military by Defense News. I recommend it to all readers as it contains much information in it that Americans should know about China’s growing military power and threats. However, the item I wish to focus on in this blog is the apparent fact that China now has the world’s largest submarine fleet and it is growing at a rapid rate as China’s military expansion continues. The analysis states that China has “the largest conventional submarine force in the world, totaling more than 60 boats” plus “a number of nuclear-powered fast-attack and ballistic missile subs.” Does that mean China has approximately 70 or more submarines? The total is unspecified, most likely because western analysts aren’t really sure how many submarines China has built. The report adds that many of China’s surface ships and submarines are armed with “supersonic sea-skimming anti-ship cruise missiles” (emphasis added.) This is a critically-important fact.
To my knowledge, only America’s real and potential enemies have them, indicating that America’s traditional technological edge is fading steadily.
Shall we just, "Get Used Too It"
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4452407&c=SEA&s=TOP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy#Submarines
http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/BG1374.cfm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html
Can't we all just get along.
I love how the GOP always goes back to the old.."we cannot tax the job creators..." or "protect american jobs..."
You guys love jobs to go overseas...you do not want to protect anyones jobs...
Besides, it is not the job creators businesses that is getting taxed..it are the folks who own the business...
You guys love to wear the flag lapel pins and say all the right things.."god bless our troops"..(except no mention at your convention..oops)
When it is something you actually have to do...like giving the country money...you change your tune.
You may not be able to send your fat kids to school in limos anymore, but they can use the exercise anyways...
Yeah, but rich people only work harder if we give them more, while everyone else only work harder if they take away what we already have.
Something seems off in that calculation, but I can't quite put my finger on it...
so true John B...they are more religious than everyone else also...:):)...
they're dog and Pony show is over anyways...