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The White House responded to the GOP counteroffer by saying the plan "does not meet the test of balance,” USA Today writes. White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer: “In fact, it actually promises to lower rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. Their plan includes nothing new and provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which Medicare savings they would achieve. Independent analysts who have looked at plans like this one have concluded that middle class taxes will have to go up to pay for lower rates for millionaires and billionaires."
USA Today: “President Obama and Senate Democrats have said that without a deal to raise tax rates on the wealthiest Americans there is no path forward to avert the fiscal cliff at the end of the year when George W. Bush-era tax rates expire and $1.2 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years are triggered.”
“As the White House and congressional Republicans try to keep the nation from going over the so-called fiscal cliff, a new survey finds that the public is amenable to raising taxes on wealthier Americans and as averse as ever to cutting entitlement programs,” National Journal writes. “The results are found in the latest edition of the United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll, which tracks public opinion about important issues facing Congress. On the contentious question of whether the Senate should approve the nomination of U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice if President Obama picks her to be secretary of State, a slim majority of respondents—51 percent—favored her approval, while 35 percent said that her nomination should be rejected if it’s put before the Senate.”
USA Today: “President Obama is looking for new allies in the fiscal cliff fight, meeting Tuesday with a group of six governors at the White House.” More: “The president's guests include three Republican governors -- one of them Scott Walker of Wisconsin, whose battles with public employee unions made headlines throughout the recent election season. Gov. Jack Markell, D-Del., chairman of the National Governors Association, will also be in the meeting with Obama. So will the NGA Vice Chair, Gov. Mary Fallin, R-Okl. The other attendees: Gov. Mike Beebe, D-Ark., Gov. Mark Dayton, D-Minn., and Gov. Gary Herbert, R-Utah.”
Charlie Cook: “This whole process is going to be long, difficult, frustrating, and painful. Moods will rise and fall, and my guess is that the financial markets may well have some pretty exciting days, in the same ways that roller coasters are alternately exhilarating and terrifying. My hunch is that some kind of stopgap deal will be done to either head off sequestration or control it so that the across-the-board federal spending cuts to defense and domestic programs (except Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and a few others) will not automatically kick in. That will enable reaching a bigger agreement early next year. It would not surprise me to see the full array of Bush tax cuts expire on Dec. 31, only increasing the pressure on Republicans to cut some kind of a deal that they would have previously considered unacceptable. We will likely see a series of budget deals, each hard fought, gradually taking in more elements until a “grand bargain” is finally reached.”
More: “While, technically speaking, November’s election produced no changes in leadership—the White House and Senate are still in Democratic hands, and the House is still under GOP control—the zeitgeist seems very different. The testosterone levels on the Republican side are dramatically lower than two years or, for that matter, two months ago. Although it is not unfair for Republicans to see last week’s opening offer from Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner as little short of an insult, one gets the sense that Democrats know they will end up with a deal that looks nothing like that.”
The contentious issues are not just on the domestic front. “President Obama warned Syrian dictator Bashar Assad on Monday that the use of chemical weapons is ‘totally unacceptable,’ and he will be punished if they are deployed against rebel forces,” USA Today writes. “‘The world is watching,’ Obama said of Assad during a Washington symposium on nuclear non-proliferation. ‘If you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences, and you will be held accountable.’ He added: ‘We simply cannot allow the 21st century to be darkened by the worst weapons of the 20th century.’”
Immigration on deck… “President Barack Obama won reelection with overwhelming support from Hispanics — and now Latino megadonors aligned with the White House are trying to mobilize that community behind his second-term agenda,” Politico reports, adding, “Led by a trio of top fundraisers that includes actress Eva Longoria, the effort comes out of The Futuro Fund, a national initiative of Latino leaders who helped reelect Obama. Organizers are aiming to marshal the support of the thousands of Hispanics it galvanized during the campaign to create a robust online and social media presence that can pressure Congress into acting on immigration reform. But it could cause friction with more traditional Hispanic civil rights groups, like the League of United Latin American Citizens and National Council of La Raza, that have spent decades lobbying for an overhaul of the country’s immigration laws. It could also spell trouble for Republicans looking to make inroads with Hispanics after their electoral drubbing.”
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Glad the Repblicans finally put something on the table. Now let the negotiations begin!
One has to admire this presidents confidence... He is probably the most intelligent president ever... And may go down in history as such...
Just think about this, You possess and hold the most powerful office/position in the world (The President of the United Sates) You can, in that position, ask for and get anything that you desire... And this guy cares more about, first of all his family, and then the struggling middle class of America...
If it were Romney. he'd be looking for profits... No, President Obama is more concerned with the people that make this country move forward...
Well that is what he says, but in fact it would raise taxes on the middle class.
Did you not read the article. One should be quized on the article before one can reply.
Maybe one should detail but he means instead of making cryptic remarks so as to seem more intelligent than one actually is.
Just how much kool-aide can you drink Terry?
Most intelligent president ever? The one who cant come up with a budget or get anything done with the economy?
And how exactly is he caring about the middle class by cutting their jobs and raising their taxes? (You may want to reread Obamacare, nevermind, that would imply that you ever read it in the first place.
Romney looked to create jobs, Obama looked to make his base happy so he'd get reelected. Too many ignorant people such as yourself is why we are in this mess.
And President Obama put his penis on the table for you and Terry-Ca to suck on.
What were his Election Promises to fix the US Economy to get Reelected. ah, duh, ah...ah....ah..
Terry-Ca,
NOBODY SHOULD LISTEN TO THE FAILURES THAT LIVE AT CALIFORNIA:
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/01/9118480-the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-the-us
As well as your Community Organizer from Illinois:
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/01/9118480-the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-the-us
Smart people listen to the advise from smart people.
http://money.msn.com/investing/11-things-wrong-with-congress
I wonder why Norquists no tax pledge doesn't seem to count except taxes for the rich. Apparently most of deductions they were willing to eliminate were deductions mostly affecting the middle class. I remember Ryans original tax plan where he suggested a possible savings would be eliminating the exemption for employer health plans and home mortgage deductions which 90% of the loss would be middle class and poor picking up the tab. Someone needs to remind them a tax hike on the 98% is still a tax hike.
Norquist's pledge was only in effect during campaigns. You should really read the fine print.
And since the Republican Party is pretty open about not caring about the middle and lower classes... or as they like to put it... everyone else, don't be too shocked that they would want the 98% of people who hold less than 10% of the money to float a bill while the 2% with at least 90% of the money just get more money and more tax breaks. Makes perfect sense to me.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/15561949/us-senate-approves-631-bn-defense-budget/
Those too lazy to click the link...I'll sum it up...your super genius president has 631billion dollars approved by the super genius senate for defense budget. 631BILLION...that he DOESN"T EVEN HAVE. But go ahead, tree hugging liberal demos, and believe that your godhead is the CHANGE you believe in.
President Obama has called for a fair and balanced approach, which the Republicans (most of them) reject in favor of a plan that is heavily weighted on the side of the wealthy. Their argument, as stated by John Boehner, is that raising tax rates for the wealthiest 2% will kill jobs and make the economy worse. What a crock!
This is not only a false misconception, it is laughably ingenuous. Every analysis I have read clearly states that a rise of 4% in tax rates on the wealthy 2% will have a negligible effect on jobs or the economy. Boehner also says that the President has made no effort to cut spending. Again a blatant lie. The President has already made significant cuts to spending and proposes to make another 800 billion more.
Evidently John Boehner is a pathological liar. That seems to be the only way he can keep his job.
The middle ground between the two proposals is very close to the President's Grand Bargain offer in 2011. The only difference now is slightly higher revenue. Revenue will not be what the President's debt commission, aka Simpson-Bowles, came up with.
The slightly higher revenue is the result of some stubborn House Republicans rejecting the President's 2011 offer. Republicans in the media were right when they called the House Republican rejection of the Grand Bargain one of the worst decisions in Republican history.
The most vocal House Republicans who rejected the President's Grand Bargain are now being stripped of their panels because they refused to listen to calmer heads in the Republican party.
Debbie-525743,
Do you know why the "Fiscal Cliff" is happening now.
It is because the waitress just showed up with the check of $2.1 Trillion for the meal President Obama ate, and now he is looking at everyone else to pay. That is what you Mandated when you Reelected President Obama.
The Repugnants need to let the Obama Lemmings jump off the "Fiscal Cliff" while On The Road To Greece (Obama's Campaign Promises of Entitlements by borrowing more money exactly like Greece).
Then after the US Economy Collapses and the Demoncraps do not get their Free Cheese and Obamaphones, etc.; then the Repugnants give the International News Media the President Obama Demands (President's Proposal to US Congress) for "Across The Board Budget Cuts" to all previously budgeted for Programs (like Medicare, etc.), Projects (like US Infrastructure Projects of the US Army Corps of Engineers, etc.), Agencies (like FEMA, Department of Education, Veteran's Affairs, etc.) including the Benefits and Entitlements of the "47%" (actual 49%) to pay for President Obama spending $2.1 Trillion that was not previously budgeted for.
Bush's last budget that ran from Oct. 2008 through Oct. 2009 had a deficit of 1.2 trillion dollars. Had Obama simply ran Bush's last budget his 4 years and spent nothing else the debt would still be 15.7 trillion today. Nobody could spend like Bush. You talk about the many things Obama would spend worth 2.1 trillion over 10 years but ignore that Romney proposed the same amount increase in the military and hundreds of billions for a new space program all while cutting revenue 5 trillion over 10 years. Amazing you people see everything Obama does as wrong and ignore what his opponent proposed.
Larry-367607,
Reality versus your fiction. President Obama is President; NOT Romulan.
I have little doubt that the Obama Administration would welcome the implementation of the Simpson-Bowles act in January. An immediate consequence for nearly every wage earner in America would be an increase in Federal withholding resulting in a decrease in net paychecks. Republicans might not understand that many low and middle income wage earners live paycheck to paycheck and any reduction in earnings will be felt immediately.
Obama does not need to do anything when the howls start coming in other than to point to Capital Hill.
People living on food stamps only can spend about $29a week. Newark, NJ Mayor Corey Booker is going to live a week on food stamps to demonstrate just how tough it is. They aren't living on fliet mignon like some of the right wing nut jobs seem to think.
Bruce, what about the people who are losing their jobs thanks to Obama's redistribution plan, or ah fair tax rates, yeah the people paying 70% of the taxes dont pay enough. Got it.
"70% of the taxes dont pay enough"
Oh darn...you have to pay 70% of the taxes but actually pay around 14% on capital gains... oh boo hoo...
Tax rates used to be 90% on upper income earners and there were still rich people and still jobs. The people who enjoy the majority of the benefit from a free society SHOULD have to pay the most taxes.
You should consider that if we the middle class have more money...then we'll buy more stuff which means more money for you. This concept is lost on the current generation of "rich" ... maybe they need to go back to business school.
Capital gains and taxes are two separate things why bring that up. You could pay capital gains too say selling your house and the profit on it would be a taxable income do you want that??
It's not hard to figure out how he got reelected when you have the 99% getting between $6000.00 and 10000.00 in tax returns each year that don't pay anything in.Has anyone really thought about where all this is coming from, IT IS NOT FROM THE 99%.But don't tell the 99%, you are going to lose that free money.I am in my 50's now when we all paid our fair share of the taxes this country was a hell of alot better than than now.What are we leaving for our besides a big bill.
Patrick-261815,
You came to a War of Wits unarmed.
Yep, during the Great Depression and that did not work too well then nor will that work now, as the Rich just fled the US and made famous Swiss Bank Accounts. This just increased the problem of the Credit Crisis during the Great Depression as there were no Rich to get Loans or Credit from, and only prolonged the Great Depression.
To increase employment and get out of the Great Depression, President FDR created his US Military Industrial Complex (Nationalization of US Industry) to manufacturer "War Materials" to sell to England, France, Russia, China, etc. in exchange for tons of Gold, Silver, Raw Materials, etc., so the US got out of the Great Depression in 1939 before US Entry into WWII 1941. President FDR in his Presidential Papers knew that US Consumerism would never get the US out of the Great Depression, and that his Failed New Deal To The American People (using money US did not have to create jobs) only prolonged the Great Depression.
http://money.msn.com/investing/11-things-wrong-with-congress
EVERYTIME President Obama says "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" he is negating all "Business Tax Breaks", "Business Tax Incentives", etc. basically collapsing US Businesses and chasing all the Rich US and Foreign Business Investors Out of the US.
Historically, the "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" always chased the Rich of that Nation and Foreign Business Investors out of those Nations stating that or worse:
The Rich Founding Fathers that refused to pay the "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" British Stamp Act Taxes resulting in the American Revolution.
Chancellor Hitler's "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" including seizing the property of the German Nobility, then when this did not pay for everything, "Jews Own Everything" and "Loyal Germans must take back Germany from the Jews".
President FDR's "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" the Rich start sending their money to Swiss Bank Accounts. President FDR conceeded and starts "Tax Breaks", "Tax Incentives", etc. the Rich do NOT pay 90%, one of the President FDR "Tax Incentives" is to invest THEIR money in US Infrastructure Projects.
1970s British "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" with the British Rich fleeing and investing in India, Ireland, etc.. Result the British Liberal Labor Union Party having to Nationalize British Businesses and then because of their mismanagement and bankrupting them having to sell British Business to Foreign Nations resulting in more British Unemployed, and the British having to increase taxes on the Upper Middle Class and the Middle Class. example: British Icon Automaker Jaguar sold to Tata Motors of India (just like recently US Automaker Chrysler after Obama's giving them US Taxpayer Money, sold to Italian Fiat).
2008 Senator Obama as President Candidate Obama states his "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" as the Demoncraptic Party Platform. The Rich US and Foreign Business Investors flee the US to invest THEIR money at Vietnam, Indonesia, India, Ireland, Mexico, China, etc. anywhere except the US, only adding to the Credit Crisis of the $60 Trillion to $100 Trillion Global Economic Crisis consisting of the Mortgage Crisis, Wall Street Crisis, Financial Crisis, Banking Crisis, Credit Crisis, etc.. This results in the US Government to provide Loans to US Businesses as the Troubled Asset Relief Program as demanded by the Demoncraptic Party Controlled US Congress November - December 2008 as time sensitive (no public scrutiny) to buy the Electoral College Votes for Candidate Obama.
The Greeks start their "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" to pay for all the promised Entitlements and Benefits that got them elected. The Greek Rich and Greek Businesses flee Greece. To pay to for all the promised Entitlements and Benefits the Greek Government starts borrowing money from other Nations.
Current Rich French fleeing the French "Tax the Rich", "Rich Pay Their Fair Share" including abandoning the Mortgages on their Mansions adding to the French Mortgage Crisis. So guess who the French Government is Taxing to pay for all the Entitlements and Benefits.
And pertaining to how much the US Businesses ARE getting Taxed are you Patrick-261815 calling President Obama a Liar, President Obama's 2012 State of Union Address, "the US Business Taxes of 35% one of the highest in the World" (this does NOT include the US Business Taxes that were increased to pay for the extravagant standards of living for the Local, City, State Government Politicians and things like $90,000 per year Retirements of Government Union Workers that YOU voted for.).
Patrick-261815 keep on punishing individuals for their successful individual choices and rewarding individuals for their failed individual choices and see what happens (known Historically Documented Results).
Total nonsense. The maximum you can get from earned income is a few hundred to a thousand or so hardly 6 to 10K and regardless what's that have to do with Obama? This is the same credit many received under Bush and would have received under Romney. I don't understand this credit either but am intelligent enough not to blame him for every program enacted over the last 50 years. Romney would have increased the 47% by several million with his across the board 20% tax cut.
No these huge refunds are not Obama's fault but they do need to go away. No one should get more back than what they pay in.
Right wing nuts may believe that food stamps provide filet mignon but most of us aren't nuts. We believe, and some of us know first hand, that food stamps are not a grand proposition. Instead we believe that we don't want to live on food stamps but rather have a thriving economy that produces jobs. More taxes don't won't do that. However, seeing government over-spending, unemployment,, deficits and food stamp come down is what we would like to see. Look at the US tax records and you will find that revenues for the year over year are up from 2.1 trillion in 2009 to an estimated 2.4 trillion in 2012. Still not the 2.5 trillion under Bush in 2005 but it is estimated to get past that, 2.9 trillion under current tax rates, in 2013.
You see, The problem isn't revenues but the spending. You could almost use Clinton's old line....
It's The Spending Stupid!
Sorry, I put the wrong Bush year down, the 2.5 trillion under Bush was produced in 2008 not 2005.
I'm willing to pay higher taxes, if the govt will cut spending by 3 to 1and quit spending it on WETBACKS!!!
Government definition of spending cut:
This year spend $100 Billion.
Next year, instead of spending $108 Billion, spend $104 Billion.
This is a $4 billion dollar spending cut.
Simple, huh?
If you taxed the 400 wealthiest people in the US you would barely put a dent in the debt. I know libs love thinking that taxing the rich will solve their problems and keep the freebies coming in, but we spend too much. Once the liberals decided that social security was mandatory and put it in with the general fund, it became a forced ponzi scheme. Takers claim they are just getting back what they put in, lol, but when they, on average, get back over 200k more than they put in, they are still takers. If you dont want to cut entitlements, you are simply saying I want my kids and the rich to pay for everything. Liberalism has become a disease on our nation. Tax the wealthiest 100 percent and we will still be running a deficit, just with less jobs. That's using your head.
Mitt Romney everyone.
"I know libs love thinking that taxing the rich will solve their problems and keep the freebies coming in, but we spend too much"
Excuse me...but taxing the rich doesn't mean just taxing the top 400 wealthiest people. Far more people make over $ 250,000 a year than you think. Also...capital gains for Mitt Romney at 14% on 14 million dollars? Come on he could easily afford to pay more... and so could anyone else making that much in investment gains.
"Liberalism has become a disease on our nation." Hmmm... so most of the majority of people that voted for Obama have a disease. Interesting from a right wing perspective. Maybe you have the disease... not being in tune with the rest of us.
"f you dont want to cut entitlements, you are simply saying I want my kids and the rich to pay for everything"
Maybe I want to cut entitlements for the defense industry... in favor of people...
Again you came to a War of Wits unarmed.
US Government Spending:
60% Entitlements
20% Defense
13% Discretionary
7% Interest on Loans (like from Chinese)
Like I stated before about US Defense:
US Defense employs directly and indirectly almost a hundred million US Civilians. That then spend their money on Fast Food, Car Dealerships, Real Estate, Theaters, Retail, etc..
President Obama, 2012, "A US Defense Budget Cut of 10% will result in a Million (US) Citizens becoming Unemployed".
Included within the US Defense Budget is US Intelligence, as previously Gutted by President Clinton resulting in the US Blind and Deaf to the Events leading to the 9/11 2001 Attacks (Bipartisan US Congressional 9/11 Commission (Committee) Investigations, Findings and Recommendations afterwards Former President Clinton saying, "I'm a so sorry".
Repeat President Clinton's mistakes and expect a different result.
It was President Clintons opinion (not fact) that the US Intelligence built up by the Director of the CIA Bush (President (41)) was not necessary, just like the US Military was no longer necessary eventhough he kept volunteering the US Military for UN "Non Wars" and demanding US Law H.R. 4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction, Section 3 Overthrow of President Hussein, with US Congressional Appropriations (later becoming 2003 Operation Iraqis Freedom), and his failed 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox resulting in the Islamic World condemning the US as the Great Satan.
The US Infrastructure Projects of the US Army Corps of Engineers is also included in the US Defense Budget; also previously Chopped by President Clinton with the Result of the US Army Corps of Engineers not having the money to do as they recommended as the Upgrades, Repairs, building new, modifications, etc. for the Levees at New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina. Bipartisan US Congressional Katrina Hearings. This can also been seen with the US Army Corps of Engineers lacking the Funds for Bridges, Dredging (current floods and droughts), "Berms" (Levees) at New Jersey (Hurricane Sandy Flooding), Sea Walls, Water Reservoirs (current droughts), Beach erosion, Irrigation Canals (current droughts), etc..
The US Military previous Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces of the US Military as Ordered by President Clinton as Commander In Chief, resulting in more of the necessary support functions of the US Military previously done by cheaper US Military Personnel taken over by overpaid too expensive US Civilians (Hundreds of thousands still at Iraq. Hundreds of thousands at Afghanistan). Recently President Obama as Commander In Chief has Ordered the Reduction In Forces of 90,000 US Military to be thrown on Unemployment further straining the Veteran's Affairs, as well as 108,000 US Civilians employed by the US Military thrown on Unemployment. The US Military Personnel arepaid below minimum wages while the US Civilians employed by the US Military are the majority of the US Military Spending. President Obama demanded another cut not later than 2013, the US Military will no longer be able to conduct Two Wars Simultaneously just like after the President Clinton Cut to the Bone Reduction In Forces (RIFs) of the US Military.
The argument against raising taxes on the rich couldn't be sold with 4 years of arguing, why don't they learn. Just because taxing them a few percentage more won't magically wipe out the deficit doesn't mean an additional 80 billion added to cuts won't make a difference. The 400 wealthiest Americans have a net worth that exceeds the bottom 60% or 185 million people. I think taxing that 400 more makes more sense than taxing the 185 million that live paycheck to paycheck. Americans by a factor of almost 2 to1 believe the rich should pay more including most republicans. Do you really think your lame arguments you've been making for over 4 years are going to change any minds?
Mr. Burns: Apparently you never were good at math. People paid into a system with dollars from the 40', 50's, 60's etc. when dollars were worth a lot more and gas was 25c a gallon of course they get more than they put in. You do realise someone could have bought annuities throughout those years and received an even better return, right? The government has to pay interest just as they do with treasuries and social security is an obligation the same as treasuries. Sorry but you'll never sell it to people like me in their 60's that my 200K plus I invested throughout the years isn't worth anything because you'd rather invest yourself. I've paid my dues.
Amazing how any working person can vote GOP. The GOP created the debt over 30 years of taxcuts for millionaires and a bloated Pentagon budget and a war in Iraq that was manufactured by AIPAC and neocons. Theire solution, continue tax cuts for millionaires and gut social programs that we need to survive. Maybe it is time the Blue States Seceded from the Union since we already put in the lions share of taxes. And the Red States can fend for themselves.
Interesting concept. When the red states started signing petitions on whitehouse.gov on Nov 7 to be allowed to secede, the liberals wanted them all convicted of treason or stripped of citizenship and thrown out of the country.
"allowed to secede, the liberals wanted them all convicted of treason or stripped of citizenship and thrown out of the country."
Not really... but you all tried that once before and how did it work out for you? You lost horribly if I remember correctly. Think your better prepared now?
Obama agenda: Rejected!
mongo-2114653 agenda: Rejected!
NOPE. President Clinton's US Law H.R. 4655 "Iraqis Liberation Act of 1998" Justification Section 2 Weapons of Mass Destruction, Section 3 Overthrow of President Hussein, with US Congressional Appropriations (later becoming 2003 Operation Iraqis Freedom), and his failed 1998 US Military Operation Desert Fox resulting in the Islamic World condemning the US as the Great Satan.
NOPE AGAIN. President Obama Demands (President's Proposal to US Congress) for "Across The Board Budget Cuts" to all previously budgeted for Programs (like Medicare, etc.), Projects (like US Infrastructure Projects of the US Army Corps of Engineers, etc.), Agencies (like FEMA, Department of Education, Veteran's Affairs, etc.) including the Benefits and Entitlements of the "47%" (actual 49%) to pay for President Obama spending $2.1 Trillion that was not previously budgeted for.
Sure the Founders of the Democracy Party of the Confederate States tried to secede from the Federalist Republic of America (aka Republician Party) Union before.
And already blew all that money on your socialist communist demoncrap illegal alien uneducated experiments, so sure take your bankrupt demoncrap arses and GET THE F**K OUT:
Patrick-261815,
Ignorance is ignorance; no right to believe anything can be derived from it. Sigmund Freud
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57547353/david-mcculloughs-heroes-of-history/?tag=contentMain;contentBody
The Confederate States of America were the Founders for the later Demoncraptic Party against the Federalist Party of America (aka the Republic of America Party, later Republician Party). It was the strong belief in Democracy of the Individual States and Self Determination against a Federalist Central Government determining everything for all States of the Union of the Republic of America.
During the anti Socialist (backlash from the National Socialist German Workers Party of WWII and the USSR aggressions) and anti Communist (Chinese aggressions) Era of McCarthyism (1950s) that many US Socialist Party and US Communist Party Members were welcomed into the Demoncraptic Party.
Basically Patrick-261815 you were sold (fooled into buying) a Pepsi and told that the Pepsi was a Coca Cola and you believed that propaganda and rewritten Politically Correct History. Go read the actual History in the History Books at a Library before they were rewritten; a long time ago School History Books were written by History Professors, History Scholars, "Subject Matter Experts" for each period of time andmajor Historical Events; now a days the History was rewritten by Teachers with Education Degrees (not subject matter experts of History)(same crap posted on the internet).
example of current US History Book:
"US dropped two Nuclear Bombs on Japan during World War Two".
So even the "History" Teacher with a Degree in Education (certification by multiple choice test to teach History) does not know: 1. There are two basic types of Nuclear Bombs, Atomic and Thermo Nuclear with two extremely distinct different effects (amount of destruction); 2. The Reason why the US dropped the Nuclear Bombs on Japan; 3. Knows nothing about planned Operation Overlord US Military Invasion of Japan (multiple Islands); 4. Why the targets were chosen; 5. How many thousands died; 6. That the US Army Air Corps was dropping White Phosphorus cluster (bundles of sticks of white phosphorus) bombs that caused more deaths by burning people to death in Firestorms as large as Cities plus suburbs and suffocating civilians to death in bomb shelters than both of the Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan so that the US would not lose Hundreds of Millions of US Military (almost 1/4th of the US Population) during the Planned Invasion of Japan.
Yep Patrick-261815 you were sold (fooled into buying) a bunch of propaganda. Too bad President Obama's "Level the Playing Field" means bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator; as historically documented criticism of "Level the Playing Field" in Kurt Vonnegut's 1961 Book, Harrison Bergeron what you really need to read if you want to learn something (reading someone elses review, interpretation, summary, cliff notes will not work) of course you can remain illiterate and too lazy.
What in the hell is this? Who is stupid enough to write the words "Republicans and Balance" in the same sentence? The Republicans are about as balanced as wheels to a miscarriage! If Obama's offer was "rejected" by Republicans, it MUST be the right offer for the country!
kennyfreethinker,
Typical Demoncrap "Demonizing".
The left (Demoncraps) driving a vehicle cannot go right (Repugnants) and instead will cause a crash by making an illegal left turn without looking, then demonize blame game the person driving the vehicle that hit them.
US Government Spending:
60% Entitlements
20% Defense
13% Discretionary
7% Interest on Loans (like from Chinese)
Perhaps kennyfreethinker if you did not hang around these people (South Park) you would not get killed as often:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beV9b7KFrP4
We are nation of "feel gooders." A nation that doesn't want to DO anything. No, it is way easier to pay someoone else to it. We "feel good" that a some people now have access to "affordable health care," we "feel good" taking money from the rich, we "feel good" that old people still have access to social security. Problem is, we don't want to dirty our hands actually doing it ourselves. "I don't want to help, I might break a nail. Here, here's some money. You do it."
The simple fact is that sequestration gets triggered whither there is a tax deal or not. It is based on reducing spending, which Obama has totally declined to consider. Even if the tax deal were to tax the rich at 100%, it would not get the revenues needed to off set spending. This entire effort is smoke screen drama to help place the blame when either sequestration takes place and/or the economy collapses. At this point that is the only foreseeable outcome.
Bush's last budget that ran from Oct. 2008 through Oct. 2009 had a deficit of 1.2 trillion dollars. They blame Obama because he couldn't not only reduce the deficit from 1.2 trillion to zero in 4 years but pay on the debt as well. If republicans had won in 2008 it wouldn't even be an issue. The deficit doesn't matter when republicans have the presidency.
Critical times hard to deal with, will be here.
Stop the lies Mr Burns. Congress is the problem...
One thing I am tired of (besides OBs lies) are the lies about the election results.
Want the truth?
www.manifesto2012.com
If tax on higher incomes is raised, OBarney will have to come up with another gratuitous demand to repeat until we want to throw up while He undermines the USSA and engineers a coup to rid Himself of voters, the Supremes, and Congress.
All this talk of taxing the rich but the rich who run big companies are already telling workers they are going to pass the new taxes on to the consumers and employees and hire less people (just like obamcare).When there taxes go up they just pay less in wages and charge more for product just like when obama let gas prices go out of control.I remember paying .78 cents a pound for pork and $2 a pound for beef 4 years ago now you go to walmart and pork is $5 a pound and beef is $7 a pound in just 4 short years.These companies have demonstrated that they will just pass the cost on and if he taxes them more our cost goes up and history has already demonstrated it during his first term.I can't wait to be paying alot more for groceries and gas I didn't need that money anyway to support my family its ok if they starve(NOT) .It is simple economics=If it costs more money to make the same product you just charge more for it or there is no reason to have a business that is for profit and creates jobs.
He is too dumb to understand that, he has always had money gave to him he does not know how hard it is to earn it, just how to spend it, everybody will survive the bull@!$%# cliff deal just turn to familys they will help you I am helping 2 grandchildren and two great grandchildren and me and my wife are on social security and we will survive. now git off your asses and get to work.
He's not taxing the ubber rich like the dems are so happy to believe...damn fairy tale that is...no he is taxing those of us who make 200k or more up to and excluding his croonies and corporate monster friends.
just do what I want I won the election and don't you all forget that, we will do it my way or else
He wants to raise taxes on those of us who worked our asses off to make 200k a year...why?...So he can spend more of our hard earned cash...I'm sick of paying more taxes towards 'the cause' Those of you who believe in what super Obama says are seriously searching for some form of godhead figure.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/15561949/us-senate-approves-631-bn-defense-budget/
If any one of you think that either party is for the working middle class you are sadly mistaken. Republicans care about the wealthy. Obama and his followers care about demonizing big business and giving away money. Meanwhile The working class (who receive NO handouts) are footing the bill.
Personally I am getting sick of both ends of the spectrum and Washington. Both sides need to give some. I no more like corporate welfare than I do individual welfare.
I am sorry but someone living off welfare and not working should not have the same luxuries that someone who works has. Unfortunately, we've become a society where everyone thinks they deserve smart phones, cable, internet, game systems, flat screens etc. It used to be you only had luxuries (which these all are) if you worked for them.
Also I am sick of hearing about wealthy tax evaders. How long do you think it would take for the IRS to come after me if I stopped paying my taxes? Not long.
There's too many people fighting about which side is right, when in actuality neither side is without some compromise. The question is will our so called leaders figure this out before it's too late?
There are only two ways to move forward.
1. Raise taxes on all income regardless of class. The middle class has to pay too. There must be a tier based tax on income. All goods must be taxed. Increase tariff on all imports. Tax each and every item considered not necessary to maintain life. That includes even cosmetics! Tax auto industry. People must learn to use public services or use pedal power!
2. Cut all entitlements not necessary to maintain life. There should be no entitlements for those who are obese. These people should learn to maintain good health. Inactivity and too much indulgences in junk food are the causes of obesity, diabetes and heart related problems that suck in much of medical bills! People must learn to live within their means. The state must make it clear that it is to govern and maintain security and not to babysit those who are lazy to find jobs! People must be willing to work. Once everyone understands that there is no such a thing as free lunch every one will get down to serious labor!
If both parties can understand these basic principles, then we can balance the budget and move on.
I doubt the Democrats will cut entitlement as the recipients are their vote bank.
The Republicans will not allow taxes for the rich to increase as the rich are their bankers!
Wait for two more years and hand the Congress to Democrats and we will have a solution. But then the new Democrat nominee for presidency will be facing defeat! That's how the system works.
America is going broke as the violence in America is increasing. Not good. Doesn't look good for either side of American leadership.
"a new survey finds that the public is amenable to raising taxes on wealthier Americans and as averse as ever to cutting entitlement programs,”
No shi*.....the welfare and entitlement recipients including ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS voted this @$$wipe back into office.