Republicans should not be surprised at the fiscal proposal they received from the White House last night, White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest said, as President Barack Obama has been highlighting the same position on the campaign trail for the past year.
NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro discuss a week that was largely a repeat of past weeks where the conversation continued to swirl around Susan Rice, the Fiscal Cliff and the post-mortem of the 2012 election.
“I was surprised that they were surprised,” Earnest told reporters traveling on Air Force One for the president’s trip to Hatfield, Pa., where he’ll talk about his tax and budget priorities.
Recommended: Obama proposal sends a message to Republicans
Thursday night, Republicans called the White House’s proposal, submitted by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, “a complete break from reality,” citing the White House’s starting line of $1.6 trillion in additional revenue, which they say is twice as much as what was on the table in 2011.
Earnest said figure reflects the goals of higher taxes on the wealthy that the president articulated on the campaign trail.
“The marker that was presented in the context of the balanced approach deficit reduction the president advocated in the campaign was $1.6 trillion in tax revenue,” he said.


saw LINCOLN.....really hits home how tiny, petty, and insignificant obama is......spielberg delayed the release until after the election.........i guess he was worried that obama might lose if americans viewed him in a historical context....obama is such a fraud....
mcpaddywack:
Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler had a correct when they said a small party of dedicated fanatics to their individual causes could disrupt the nation and bring it to their cause. The poorly educated, far right wing, extremist, fanatics (some of whom are pathetic racists) in this country with the mindset of similar terrorists are as equally convinced they can do the same. No rational person in the middle and underclasses can defend the policies of these far right wing, extremist, fanatics in Congress in their march to create chaos in the Republic and then hand it to their Party who will bring order out of chaos. That is their goal and with FOX, their Ministry of Right Wing Propaganda, that is exactly what they are doing.
Many of the people writing on this website are paid propagandists to do their part in destroying the Republic. Others are merely poorly educated, far right wing, extremist, fanatics whom their leaders call "necessary idiots" for their final victory. The far right wing, extremist, fanatics had a great setback in the past election because they actually thought they had won an important victory in their quest for a Plutocracy. But, in their terrorist, evil, sinister, totalitarian minds they are convinced it was only a temporary setback. They are now regrouping for the next attempt to bring about chaos among the people believing they, as I said, will be able to step in and bring order out of chaos. Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler did the same and it worked for a time, but not until Russia and Germany were destroyed. All loyal, patriotic, Americans must begin NOW to demand recall petitions of every member of the far right wing, extremist, fanatical terrorists in Congress and replace them with rational, center, representatives who are willing to sit down and work through the nation's problems!
"really hits home how tiny, petty, and insignificant"
That's what your momma said when she saw you crawl out from between her diseased thighs.
I'm actually with Andrea Tantaros on this one. Let the left submit their proposal. Vote present. Then they own it. If it succeeds (fat chance) then the right has to eat crow. If it fails, repubs didn't vote for it and didn't oppose it. The left owns it. Anyone on the left want to take complete ownership?
Maybe, just maybe then the democratic senate would do their constitutional duty and pass a budget. Obama has at least proposed one (defeated 99-0 regularly)... I don't think the left has enough of a pair to take ownership of the economy and unfortunately, the right doesn't have enough of a pair to vote present.
no one on the left believes in accountability or responsibility.......
yeah hey obama supporters???...what are going to say when this ass obama takes away your deduction for mortgage interest??......i know some of you libbies own homes.......
Blah Blah Blah
More throwup coming out of your pie hole.
mcwhackinyourpaddy,the only ass I see here is you.Obama isn't taking away anything. It's the Rethuglicans trying to take away anything they can and hand it over to the 1%. Didn't I hear you people say Romney in a landslide when actually it was Obama in an avalanche. Too funny.
Only the republicons want to do that.
hesfailed: I'm getting the popcorn ready for that answer as well.
The President has all the leverage this time around and this time he isnt going to let the oldguard Republicans keep thier precious tax cuts. Those tax cuts were only supposed to be temporary to begin with but once they got them they dont want to let them go. Time is up Richy Rich. The people of this nation have spoken and either do what we say or get the F out of the way.
Just don't be surprised when you get LAYED OFF! I will pay higher taxes I know that. But where do you think I'm going to get the money to pay those taxes? My employees! no raises, less hours, etc... I'll be fine, unfortunately some of the people working for me that make under $30K will suffer even more. As a business owner I must stay afloat, employees not so much. I have no choice, I either take a huge hit or I pass it along. I continue to pay for my kids college or I help pay for employees benifits. Sorry fact of life. All you Obama supporters will probably blame me which only underscores just how much dems know about business.
These elected officials need to start doing there jobs. I am so sick and tired of all the bickering. They have a job to do, and they need to start doing it
For the first two years the republicans did absolutly nothing but said no. They are are ones that got us into this mess. They have no problem putting two wars on the credit card, but help the poor and middle class, they do not worry about them.
They have no problem running to Grover Norquest and signing his no tax pledge, but again helping the poor and middle class they say no.
Everyone needs to bite the bullet and shut up and do there job to fix our problems or hand in your reginaton.
This election proved that big money cannot control everything. People need to realize that for all that big money that those people gave, they want something in return. This kind of stuff needs to stop.
You elected officials need to stop worring about w3here your next contribution is going to come from before you voteand start doing your jog for all americans and not for the selected few.
I just wanted to voice my opinion on the economy as a whole. I think the whole problem with the economy cannot be completley blamed on Democrats or Republicans, but we as a people can take a lot of this blame. Our economy is screwed because US citzens are lazy and have become dependent on the government. I own a small business and I am by no means rich and I am hiring right now. I think I pay pretty decent but I cannot find someone to fill the jobs I have available. The main reason is the people of this country are more content sitting around doing nothing then going to the unemployment and welfare office and getting a check for free. And yes I do blame part of that on Obama who has increased funding to those programs. For those who say there are no jobs out there, they must be crazy. I go to dunkin donuts every morning for coffee and for the past 6 months there has been a help wanted sign. Is this a dream job? Of course it isnt, but it is a job. I was talking to my grandfather who is from Philadelphia who said that people who hit hard times back in the day would not go to the welfare office, they would find a way to make money and support thier family. I personally would be embarrased if my friends and family found out I was on welfare. However most people do not think this, they have become dependent on the goverment. Again in my opinion a lot of problems in this economy are because of us, the american people. Our economy is going to keep going downhill until this is fixed. There needs to be a way to decrease goverment dependency. Increasing taxes to the rich is not going to do anything because we keep pumping money into programs that do not work ie: Welfare. It is a viscious cycle that has to be stopped before we can see this economy change. Please let me know what you think, this is just my opinion but would love to hear you input.
What we have here is a failure to communicate, or the lack of resources within each politicians agenda to cross over and participate in a adult situation with the only agenda that matters, which is keeping America solvent, keeping America strong, keeping America free, the individuals involved at the top are so deep in their own little worlds that they can't seem to be able to relate to the world of the same people who are the blood line of America, US, the people who pay the taxes that pay their salaries, think about how upside down every thing is, we (the tax payer) pay them to screw us royaly, while we vote and complain and put up with the all the bullcrap that is going on. It is time for all this upside down world to come to an ending, we need to start over again, The New American Party is the name that I would support with just Americans allowed.
The president was elected to raise taxes on the rich, as little as this does it that is what the people wanted. Everyone to pay their "fair share". The House , who's job it is to control the governments purse strings, was elected to reduce the deficit and bring spending under control ( mostly with much higher percentages of the vote). Both of them are going to have to compromise.
Obama and the democrats could easily bring spending under control without touching medicare and social security by getting rid of baseline budgeting. Why do we increase the entire governments budget every year without reviewing its need? You can't tell me that EVERY agency needs an increase EVERY year. There are agencies we could do without , the GSA for one and the TSA for another. private companies are doing a better job than the TSA and for much less. The GSA should be bringing money in instead of being a money pit. I'm sure there are many other places where things could be cut if not entirely done away with.
If Obama is serious about bringing the deficit under control instead of just increasing spending then he needs to step up and talk with the republicans like Clinton did instead of going on taxpayer funded trips to sell the public something half of them don't want.
You Republicans and Democrats are both to blame for the economic mess we are in. The republicans did not cause the recession and neither did the democrats. If you do your research you will find there is plenty of blame to go around. You have both grown the size of the government trying to push your agendas. Governments job is to grow and expand, Our job as citizens is to keeps it in check. The less the government does TO (not for) us the better off we are. To many of the regulations pushed by both sides are to help individual companies at the detriment to everyone else making it harder for small business to get started and succeed. The Democrats blame the republicans for pushing their views on everyone else but do exactly the same and are even more vitriolic than any republican. Neither of you should be pushing social agendas, the government has no business telling people how to live other than making sure everyone has the same opportunities.
Sorry Republicans. After 30 years the money still did not trickle down. Now we're trying something else.
The Clinton years were not trickle down policies. As soon as GWB was elected, trickle down came back, surpluses were given away as tax cuts to the rich, then the Bush Great Recession.
I know it is tough for the GOP to deal with the fact that Obama won, time for reality. Not only that, our President isn't like Romney, he has spoken the truth all through the campaign, not like Romney tried to do keep changing his views in order to buy a vote here or there.
"Reducing the deficit" by stealing more from people who're carrying 80% of the tax burden already is just plain theft. Damned democrat thieves. Try NOT SPENDING.
Do you people ever have real facts.
We're not the ones who launched two holy wars we couldn't afford and then deregulated Wall Street.
Spending is only up 0.4% under the Obama Administration.
CEO compensation has gone up 300% in the last couple of years. Yep, they are sure struggling to get by.
I'm not a CEO, woodhead. I'm a middle manager, and I make just enough for Odumbass to pile on more taxes. And you people who think that just because someone makes money, you have the right to take is are fking pathetic leeches.
Siara Delyn
President Clinton signed, with the help of Sen. Dodd & Sen. Schumer, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999. Just a bit too soon to be Bush's fault.
Seein Bohner standing in front of a sign talking about jobs is too funny. Not 1 jobs bill proposal in 4 years from the GOP
As opposed to more than 500 bills to limit women's reproductive rights.
And don't forget 33 bills to try and kill Obamacare...
The Republican leadership in the House and Senate are a bunch of total and complete morons. They're also very slow learners, as they have not yet absorbed the results of the Presidential election.
The result of that election was so close, Obummer has sun burn. Yes, he won, but by the skin of his teeth. That means you democraps had BETTER compromise, but that's all there is.
Republicans spend Democrats invest in America.
America voted for President Obama's plans (twice) which include increased revenue on those making over $250,000.
It's just that simple. The Bush era tax cuts given to the millionaires and billionaires helped put the remaining 98% of Americans and our Country in a very difficult financial position for too many years already.
Let the tax cuts for the millionaires and billionaires expire. No negotation here.
Continue the tax cuts for the remaining 98%.
America voted (twice). Git er done !
If the rich hadn't kept the money for themselves over the past 30 years and had let some trickle down, maybe the GOP would still be in power.
Unfortunately it's not that simple. As soon as Republicans moved in the direction of increased revenue the President upped the ante by demanding a $50 billion stimulus and authority to unilaterally increase the debt ceiling without Congressional approval. He also now wants discussions on tax reform and spending cuts delayed until next year. Does this sound like good faith negotiating on the President's part?
Through government we need to do together what we can not do for ourselves. Abe Lincoln
"The era of big government is over"
"First, we must balance the budget. In the 12 years before I took office the deficit skyrocketed and our national debt quadrupled."
Bill Clinton
Both parties are the problem.
January 27, 1996
Back to campaigning; the only thing he knows how to do.
You wanted 4 more years of the same?
Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah he is brilliant. Going around America for support.
What are you doing? Bringing us down to their level?
They were surprised by a surprise. How crazy is that! I bet once upon a time they were saddened by something sad too. But this is politics so probably more likely they were jerked off because they are jerk offs.
Remove Congressional authority over the debt ceiling? Let the Democratic Dictatorship of America begin. Are they out of their mind?!?
The GOP are painted in the corner AGAIN and you point your finger at Democrats?
jr: The people spoke on 06 November and they're angry! The patriotic forces of good in this country are on the march as they were against the fascists in 1941. Far right wing, extremist, fanatics are being exposed at every point and are being identified as terrorists intent on pushing the Republic into chaos. Petitions are now being filed to recall every far right wing, extremist, fanatic in Congress and replace them with rational, CENTER, representatives who will sit down together and begin to resolve the problems of this Republic. You are either with the American Patriots are you're against us! We want right wing extremism defeated and a return to the CENTER!
I have been following politics sense I was 12 years old, I am so glad people are finally understanding what the GOP really stands for. They stand for the elite, the few and the powerful. if you not of that level you are just a worthless pawn on the board to them.
It is about time a new generation come alone and see them for what they really are. They are willing to make the whole nation fall apart so they can protect the few rich at the top and over what? A few % of taxes? It's time the nation see where the GOP really stands. I can say this much, they are not to be trusted at all. They will never do the right thing for the people and the nation.
An all white male party, DixieCrats, Tea Baggers. Support by Big Money and you think they care about your interested? Even if you voted Republican, if you are middle class and below, you will suffer the same fate.
Completely correct
Hey Will so apparently I am one of those "All White Male party dixiecrats" so go F yourself!!!
F N Free loading piece of dog crap ! This nation was not founded on free-loaders our ancestors made this nation great and you get out of it what you put into it. Your party just wants " what's in it for me. ' and when anyone says hold on, you play the race card! the black people of this country should be ashamed!
No Race card what played , Just look at your party, look at your convention, look at the republican congress, look at the Republican Senate..................No race baiting , just the facts about your party
@ BrentOC as most people of color, we have voted for more whites then non whites in our life time. So you need to question yourself non us. See its nothing to do with color for many of us. I voted for Hillary Clinton during the primary 8 years ago not Obama, after the Convention We all supported Obama. I worked on both Bill Clinton Campaigns. Voting has nothing to do with color, it's about trusting the person you support regardless of race, gender or religion.
In 4 years I am sure I will be supporting Hillary for President 2016!
before our eyes we have two economic theories at play. The Europeans have followed the Hayek approach and looking at the results it is obvious it has FAILED. As a matter of fact they have at the last G8 conference decided to move toward the US approach of Keynesian economics, Thus the Germans last night authorized a 56 billion dollar loan to Greece.
Can your side point to one Success of any country that has employed reduce deficits first where it worked.
I can name 5 or 6 that have tried Keynesian where it was worked.
Its fine to have beliefs and principles but at some point you have to test it against REALITY. and if reality says your wrong you need to be an adult and recognize reality or it has a tendencity to bite you in the arse if you dont. Kind of like elections have consequences........
Name them.......put you money where your mouth is!
try s korea, singapore, austrilia, USA, and lets not forget china. There are about 5 more.
now can you name one country that has employed your methods where it succeeded?
can you explain how Japan can have their debt being 150% of the GNP yet have the third largest economy in the world and last I looked sell their 10 year Tbills at 1.22%. Flies in the face of every economic basis your side preaches
This reporter seems to be the most ill-informed in a long time.
Her writing (or was it written by the White House?) proves that she does not see or hear any news that doesn't come from the White House.
If so, she would understand that the "surprise" was that Obama, even after seeing and hearing the resistance to his plan for years and after his statement to "work across the aisle", he came with the same "crap" that was rejected.
As I have said for 4 years, do not listen to what he says, watch what he does...
They are polar opposites!
sheperd- dont elections have consequences? heard for months on end how Obama wanted to raise tax RATES on the top 2%. By election results, by polls this is the majority opinion.
Thought your side was a great believer in freedom and american democracy. arent we exceptional and all???????
demtothebone....IMO and in agreement with reporters around the globe, Obama was re-elected by an un-informed, mis-informed electorate.
Why just the other day I spoke with a friend that voted for Obama and now that the election is over and the reports are coming out on Benghazi (liberal stream media did not report it), the increased costs and taxes due to Obamacare, his spending plans that will likely have a $20 Trillion debt by 2016 and the plan to raise taxes on those making over $178,000 AGI without cutting any spending, they are furious.
They said if they would have known that prior to the election, there is no way they would have voted for him.
Having the "liberal/main stream media" (aka Propaganda Arm of the White House) and the Obama administration hide information from the American public is by no means a free society nor indicative of democracy, let alone a republic (which is what the United States actually is).
Sad....Sad....Sad.....
How do you collapse the GOP loser. I am fed up with his insults
Click next to the arrow for options
New to this thanks.
Welcome, !!!!! Austerity Never Works.......
The argument is the marginal tax rate for the 2% reverting to the Clinton level for income amounts over $250K. I say let the Bush era tax cuts expire and then the Dems reintroduce their Senate bill continuing the tax breaks for those under $250K and let the Clinton rate apply to ALL the income to those making over $250K. The GOP wouldn't know a good deal if it bit them in the azz.