This Stuart Stevens seem to have a problem with our President. He cannot Man up and say Romney was not the choice that Americans wanted as President, Why is it always Republicans looking for other reasons they lost instead of actually coming to the conclusion that going back to 1950 and working for the 2%ers is what Americans dont want, and they also dont want the Christian Conservatives to tell them how to have sex and controll womens health rights

'Tis the season of re-gifting, Feisty. Seems to me that every day the GOP regifts the Democrats with the future votes of minorities, Latinos and women.

Reminds me of a can of haggis that gets passed back and forth every Christmas in my family for the past 10 years or so. No one in the family bothers to unwrap it any more.

Haggis is a savoury pudding containing sheep's pluck (heart, liver and lungs); minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally encased in the animal's stomach and simmered for approximately three hours.

Yum!

Has anyone seen Joe "Gaffe" Biden lately??

Now that the electionis over it looks like Barry had the good sense to lock him up again in the WH attic, where all crazy uncle's belong.

Feisty, I think the lipstick on a pig analogy fits the GOP better.

Will Mitt be wearing his Magical Underwear? I hope Queen Ann goes along for the luncheon, as Michelle greets her as the 1st Lady that should really steam lil Annie

Psst I heard a Rumor that the Wonk little Paulie has been quiet ever since his African American Girlfriend of 4 years in College was found out about, His good old Buddy's at the GOP look at him in a different way

Joe in Albany

Has anyone seen Joe "Gaffe" Biden lately??

Joe was last seen shopping at the new Costco (the store that pays a decent wage) in DC . Other than that he maybe studying up on the constitutionality of being the tipping vote for restructuring the filibuster rules in the Senate.

Psst I heard a Rumor that the Wonk little Paulie has been quiet ever since his African American Girlfriend of 4 years in College was found out about,

That job as driving the Oscar Mayer Weinermobile must have been really exciting.

It never seems to occur to Republicans that elections are about choosing people who we want to work for us, not about choosing a new BOSS.

Romney tried to tell us he was entitled to be President, by virtue of his father's career, and Romney's own position in the Church and in the business world. Obama, on the other hand, asked for a second term, to complete the job he started, of helping the middle class recover from the recession, and build a more secure future.

Get the diff, Stu?

My problem with Stued Sh!t is that he says he thinks the Democratic party and those on the left have been filled with self loathing over the last few years. Really? Could have fooled me. I think Stued Sh!t is a small little man who, like the rest of his party, is completely lost as to how on earth they could have lost the election. The whole party definitely has an ego problem, among their many other issues that many of them seem to refuse to acknowledge, or really even see for that matter.

Exactly the diff, Amy!

So why did the Democrats win the Presidency? The answer is quite simple.

There are now 47 million families that get free food and cash aid, and they credit the Democrats for 'giving' them that largess. At $550 per month average, that's about $300 Billion per year in 'freebies'.

These families are typically also the ones that get an average of about $440 Billion per year in free health care (Medicaid - that figure comes from Obama's 2013 Budget projections).

That amounts to a total of about $740 Billion per year in 'free benefits' that these 47 million families get each year, which amounts to about 70% of the $1.1 Trillion Deficit.

These people have become dependent upon the government, so they naturally will continue to vote for the Democrats. A cynic might suggest that the Democrats are 'buying votes with taxpayer funds', but of course that would be considered 'heartless towards those in need', or even 'racist'.

In addition, the Democrats keep promising 'Amnesty' for the 11 million illegal immigrants in this country, so the 12 million Hispanics that vote will naturally want to vote overwhelmingly in favor of the Democrats who promise to let their friends and relatives stay here and be eligible to work (competing with legal American workers), as well as getting welfare benefits. Ironically, the Democrats don't actually want to 'pass' Amnesty, because it would remove a valuable campaign tactic that they use over and over.

Since Obama got about 65 million of the 126 million votes in this last election, but won by only about 4 million votes, this huge group of roughly 50 million that has become 'dependent' on the government will form a formidable voting block that will ensure the Democrats maintain power well into the future. So how many of the roughly 50 million families that have become dependent on the government voted for the Democrats for purely selfish reasons (Don't touch my benefits)? If only 4 million of the 50 million voted for continued 'free benefits' from the Democrats, that was enough to ensure a Democratic victory. According to exit polls, Obama won this group by almost 11 million votes.

Ironically, even though these policies by the Democrats will drag down future economic growth, ensure high unemployment, and make everyone 'poorer' - witness the $5,000 (10%) drop in average family income over the last 4 years, this actually helps the Democrats win even more votes because it creates even more people that will become 'dependent on the government'.

All of this comes at a great cost (witness the $740 Billion per year spent on welfare and Medicaid above) and the huge cost to taxpayers of the massively growing Debt (which Obama's Budget projects to increase to $20.379 TRILLION within less than 4 years - even if he gets his 'tax increase on the wealthy'). The Debt was only $9.986 Trillion at the end of fiscal 2008. But the 50 million that get welfare and free medical care don't really care about that, because they know that 'someone else will have to pay for that' (those who actually pay income taxes).

And of course the Democrats will continue to 'play to their base' by claiming 'the rich don't pay their fair share', and the Republicans are 'heartless and racist' for calling for 'entitlement reform'.

We are well on our way to the ruin that Greece brought upon itself by promising benefits that we can't afford.

Off topic but the elder George H.W. Bush is in the hospital for bronchitis. Not a huge fan but I still wish him a speedy recovery. After all, he has "adopted" Bill Cinton as his son!

Roy Wilson - your post - at best - is totally ignorant. Even Republican leaders are saying blame like yours is totally wrong and is NOT the reason Mitt lost. Give it up! You put out an inferior product and you paid with less votes.

I know you're going to hate me, Albany Joe, but it's "crazy uncles", not "crazy uncle's". Really have a lot of trouble with the plural vs. the possessive, doncha?

Roy Wilson,

There are now 47 million families that get free food and cash aid, and they credit the Democrats for 'giving' them that largess. At $550 per month average, that's about $300 Billion per year in 'freebies'.

You know how stupid you sound, right? In my work I come into contact with a fair number of people who receive "freebies". And you know what? The greater majority of them vote Republican. This is why so many of us on the Left talk about all the people who vote against their self-interest. If even half of that group voted Democrat this last election, the President would have garnered upward of 53% of the popular vote.

Since everyone seems to think that the tax rates under Clinton were 'fair', we should just let them expire as scheduled on January 1, 2013. Then the 'rich' will be forced to 'pay their fair share' again, and we'll cut the Deficit by an estimated $4 Trillion over 10 years.

What could be simpler - and the beauty of this approach is that the President and Congress just have to do what they seem to do best - NOTHING. The tax changes are automatic. The Republicans should just allow ALL of the tax cuts to expire - along with the Obama approved 'cuts in spending' that take effect on January 1, 2013.

Hey Roy boy, when you copy and paste an article on here, it is usual to also post the source from which you lazily took it from. Oh, and SS is correct in every word responded to you.

Roy - I'm sure if you keep repeating the GNOP lies you will eventually believe them....even though the rest of us don't.....

Mitt is at the White House today asking Pres. Obama where his "Freebies" are!

Please Mythe - remember not to ask where the cookies where baked!

I know you're going to hate me, Albany Joe, but it's "crazy uncles", not "crazy uncle's". Really have a lot of trouble with the plural vs. the possessive, doncha?

________________________________________

Hook, line and sinker.

Actually Jack-off, I did that intentionally to see if you were stupid enough to take the bait.

You were.

Moron.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul, I think we are too late. Roy, like so many of his party, already do. Let's remember, this is the party that does not govern their party with facts. Facts? We don't need no stinkin facts! Oh, yeah, and deficits don't matter..........when THEY are in the wheelhouse.

Please Mythe - remember not to ask where the cookies where baked! I hope the SS does a thorough body screening of him so he isn't hiding any little spy cameras on his person. He may have promised Ann to get as much footage of the inside private areas as possible!

ROY WILSON-336103

So why did the Democrats win the Presidency? The answer is quite simple.

You need to ask the financial wizards who brought the economy to its knees ... the companies who off-shored manufacturing ... the WalMarts that don't pay a living wage ... the people who put profits ahead of country ... the politicians who put wars on credit cards. The poor did none of this and don't want to be where they are and then being blamed for it.

You remind me of a Lenny Bruce line ... "When rich people are depicted having sex it is called eortic, but when poor people have sex it is called pornography."

I did that intentionally to see if you were stupid enough to take the bait.

Never in a million years--you're just not bright enough to think that far ahead. But you get a "B" for good effort.

Thurston and Lovey (I sure hope) being asked to temporarily visit the island they were already voted off of is entertaining.

It's funny how those that go along with the vision of America that would lead us ever more into a class-based society are exactly the ones with no class at all...

The self proclaimed royalty and their faux-religiostic willing serfs. Too funny that those maroons have become the minority now even when you stick them into one gunny-sack together. There is hope for America. Provided by Americans. And "those people" represent neither of those things.

I'd like to see Republicans walk away from this higher tax stuff. We will get blamed for going over the cliff anyway, it is the Progressive way.

Let Obama sort out this for himself and for his party, then let it be his legacy for history.

1funnygirl

Whatever the GOP chooses to do or not will be part of the legacy. Theirs and America's.

AlaskaGirl - me thinks the "Magic Underwear" may be tapped....where is Agent 99 when you need her?

UGH! Checkin' the privates....but only Commanders do that - and what does the Mythe know about commanding the troops.....unless he is on a "Mission" to France!

Post #1.11 (Roy Wilson). Let's assume that everything about your stats are accurate. My question is a simple one for you or anyone else about those stats.

What should the government do?

Is it your idea that the country should try to eliminate the deficit at the expense of the needy? Should the government simply let those in need starve? Should we close all of the shelters and let the homeless live on the streets? Should we end Medicaid and let people across the country die because they can't afford insurance? Would that then garner votes for the republicans? Is that your wish?

Roy, regarding the "food stamp" issue, need to have a sit down with Walmart execs. regarding their employees low pay which makes them eligible for food stamp assistance--said employees have been counseled to seek assistance and are encouraged to do so--pretty sad, billions in revenue and they stiff their employees and palm them off on the American taxpayer. I do not have a problem with helping hungry people but I do have a problem with employers like Walmart that deliberately slap down the help.

Meanwhile, I am still waiting for my gift, have any idea where it might be? Nah, just kidding, we have been most fortunate in not having to seek assistance from the sate or federal government, and we do no begrudge help to the least of ours.

BC, I think I'll pass on the Haggis, uggghhhh!

Roy:

Instead of writing yet another right wing screed about all of the evils of welfare, why don't you go line by line on the welfare budget and tell us what you'd cut and justify it that way?

Otherwise all you are doing is saying you are going to cut SSI/RSDI in its entirety and indicating that the blind and disabled shouldn't even receive the $674/month they receive right now, which, for many of them is their only source of income. Are you suggesting that there should be nothing available for someone whose arm has been ripped off by an industrial machine and that they should just get by on their own? Private disability has a termination date, Roy. It's usually about 2 years. Are you saying that the armless guy should have adapted well enough in 24 months that there should be no public disability for him? Are you suggesting that there should be no unemployment insurance available at all for those who have lost a job should just starve?

And if that IS what you are advocating, then what is your alternative? Are you seriously suggesting a person with severe Down's Syndrome go out and work? For who? Doing what? The private sector is not huge on hiring people employers will automatically consider to be unproductive. All of the programs you targeted are means tested. That means the disability has been determined by people who do nothing but determine disability.

Look all I am asking is that you define what, out of all of this, you are advocating we get rid of and what we don't. Otherwise, all you are doing is shouting at clouds.

When you shout at clouds, it's pretty hard to take you seriously.

So.....Paul S., at 1.24, tell me..... what does Hussein know about commanding the troops?

skyparrot
Haggis, uggghhhh!

I used to say that about fresh oysters until someone slapped a bottle of ice-cold vodka next to my plate.

1FunnyGirl:

You do realize that until 1986, people on both sides of the aisle understood their obligation to actually govern the nation, right?

And that because of that, taxes went both UP and down depending on the nation's need at whatever point in history it stood and didn't just endlessly travel downward the way that today's rank and file right wingers seem to believe they should? Governance requires seriously thinking. Trading away your authority to govern from the very beginning doesn't show that.

The question is never whether you can justify the policy you advocate to the other side. As much talk as there is about 'compromise,' that's not an issue. Both sides in this debate understand that in reality, the easiest way to get to where we need to go is to raise revenue by about 4.5% and lower expenditures by about 3.7% in a sustainable way.

The question is whether you have the ability to explain the necessity of doing so to your own rank and file. That is what we haven't seen from your side since you started listening to Limbaugh and allowing people like Norquist to tell you that the way we lived 13 years ago is 'socialism.'

If there is ONE AMUSING fact about the republicanCrimeCartel, It Is their Arrogant Stupidity. Their Campaign Hack Stu Stevens Still demonstrates what this republicanAristocratSociopathParty REALLY Consists of. Just like the Self Entitled Plantation and Slave Owners of the AnteBellum South, Whose Controlling Idiots led the Confederacy into War against the Mighty North and Assured Self Demolition. Even General Robert E. Lee transferred ALL of his wealth into NORTHERN Corporate and War Bonds BEFORE he accepted his appoinment as general of the ConfedFarcy. And, on the Dawn of the South's Surrender, Lee went to Richmond in 1864 to ask the "confederate congress" for more support as he was losing the war to Northern General U.S. Grant. When Lee got to Richmond to see his "congress" he was in total shock at what he saw and heard. Lee simply said "I've been up to see the congress and All they can do is eat peanuts and chew tobacco" this same redundant idiocy is the trademark of this republican party of Stupids who arrogantly said: "If ANYTHING, Our One Mission is to make this President, sic President Obama, a one term president". Now Stu(Pid) Stevens is talking in Harvard, of ALL Places! with his same bigotted Crapola; Oooh!! and for a Fee!, of course. How smart can Harvard be to pay for this MORON'S RACIST Drivel????? And, AND!!, AND!!! mr. stupid is hinting that It, the DumbParty, is becoming a "repackaged" political entity with "new" values!!!??!! Give It Up Stupid, You Can't Polish A Turd....

And Prez O, Even though You ARE the Steward of America, the Seat Of Capitalism and The CENTER of "Free Market Capitalism", WE Do NOT appreciate You inviting, Lunching with the enemy, His AssHoliness MittTaxPittanceRommel, and Otherwise SOILING the White House with this Sociopath's Presence to assuage your need to be accepted by a Sociopathic Criminal Club aka the republicanCrimeCartel.

BC, vodka, ah, give me enough and I might try it, now oysters oooooohhhhhhhhhhh, sans tar balls, could eat e'm by the dozens even without the vodka. Sam Adams or Louisiana's Abita Beer, oooohhhhhh!

Oscar - maybe you should ask Osama Bin Laden....oh....you can't...he is swimmin' with the fishies!

Ah ha ha ha, Paul S, you got me!!! Ah ha ha ha - not. "Mythe" would have done the same thing in regards to OBL. EXCEPT, he would have done it immediately, not after several requests, like Hussein!

Hussein giving the "ok" for OBL is NOTHING. He does not know how to command. Wellllll......wait.......I take that back........his way to command is to say "stand down" while Americans are being slaughtered in Benghazi. How sad.

Oscar - Myth - with all his GB foreign policy experts - would have said Bin Laden wasn't worth the effort to go after.....look at how "judiciously" Bush went after bin Laden.......Those are the foreign policy advisors Mythe had......Make War - Not Peace - forget who your enemies are......THAT's their motto.....

TO: Oscar Rules who wrote:

"... "Mythe" would have done the same thing in regards to OBL. EXCEPT, he would have done it immediately..."

Well then why didn't Bush "do it immediately"? Was it because he grew up with OBL?

We don't expect for hate speech Republicans to ever give anybody credit for a job well done.

The only thing Republicans know how do is try to steal credit for other people's work, and deny all the crap that Republicans mess up like taking a perfectly health economy and turning it into the 2nd Great Depression.

Using rounded numbers, I figure that the 48%'ers that voted for Romney are likely a fairly clean split between 0% that actually thought Romney was worthy and 48% that haven't out-lived the racist leanings of their forefathers. It sounds harsh, condemning the full result to racism, and to their credit I should point out that they did make up a butt-load of lies to try to avoid facing it.

Many aren't even self-aware enough to know that they're racially motivated, but just look at them when the dog-whistles blow! It's not something a person (or politician) can actually hide.

BTW... If you've said "don't play the race card" to someone more than three times in the past four years, you could be a red-neck.

In other news: The pigment-challenged John Boehner recently lost his long-term membership at his prestigious Golf Club after a scuffle ensued when he was mistaken for his caddie and asked to "fetch" something.

Romney's 48% definitely George Wallace time warpers and their spawn, hate, at times, is a generational malady. The only cure genetic therapy.

Boehner's tan get in the way of being mistaken for not being on the lighter side of membership, aw, so sorry.

Amy, terrific comment on why Mitt lost.

How can you expect to imitate Obama's appeal when you are running a man who appears to have no blood running through his veins to a heart that seems not to exist? Although I am not a fan of Christie's, at least one can tell that the man does indeed have a heart and he does care about the people in his state, and not just because of the devastation of Sandy, although that did move up his approval ratings, but he stepped up as a human being, not the governor, and he fought daily and side by side with people in an effort to ease their burdens. And, wow, what did that get him from his own party? Alot of grief. How dare the governor hug the "enemy".

Amy & Alaska Girl---I used to think that the Republicans put out their talking points to keep their base in line but that the party bosses knew the real story. Now I'm starting to think that they believe the stuff they spew on Fox and this is why they are tripped up. They are unable to see any other point of view except their own. This is why they can't fathom how so many of us support the President. They try to demonize us for it but we are regular people and they just can't get it.

For the most part, the entertainment talkers on Fox, and Rush, do not provide an alternate point of view for their audience, and when they do get someone on Fox that calls out their bull@!$%#, such as the man(cannot remember his name, but was just a day or so ago) who was chastising them about Benghazi, they cut him off faster than you can blink an eye and then lied later and said after the comments the man apologized. The man of course said he did not apologize, why should he apologize for giving his truthful opinion? Oh, they were all up in a tizzy on that one!

Hi guys, yeah, that was Tom Ricks who pointed out that Fox basically acted as an operative of the Republican Party by trying to hype this story. Some Republicans are desperately hanging on to the hype and trying to use it as an attack against Rice and the Democratic Party in general - but it looks like phony partisan nonsense to me.

Reid being a Mormon doesn't drink alcohol so he isn't able to comprehend the amount of pickling that has gone on in Boehner's brain!

When Boehner blows his nose he doesn't use a kleenex, he blows into a glass to capture a pint for afternoon cocktails.

If brains were dynamite, Hussein wouldn't have enough to blow his nose.

AlaskaGirl-759554

When Boehner blows his nose he doesn't use a kleenex, he blows into a glass to capture a pint for afternoon cocktails.

Hmmm ... extra sauce for Haggis.

BC, oysters, with Sam Adams or Abita Beer, ooohhhh.

Like the new Avatar, new to me.

opajack: "Roy Wilson 336 doesn't seem to agree with the majority of voters" So, in your mind, Roy Wilson doesn't count? What about the majority of voters that didn't agree with 0bamacare???

There IS one point I agree with you, though: "Why should any company that makes a profit of any size legally be able to pay NO tax?" So, tell me, why did Hussein's buddy at GE pay NO taxes????

Sooo....., Fancy This Too, let's say ALL the Republicans, admitted defeat......what then?

romancaesar.........

Virtually all of your comments are adolescent drivel. Since actual adolescents rarely contribute here on Newsvine, you are likely a chronological adult whose maturity has arrested.

Today, for example, you used the terms "Obozo", and "Democrap" repeatedly. You also engaged in mock Ebonics.

Then there is this series of comments from you earlier in this week:

romancaesar Quote......

• I always smile at my girlfriend when I am banging her!
• I always smile at pretty girls that look "fetching".... :)
• I always smile when I grab a girl on her fat ass. :)

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Would you be comfortable making such comments without anonymity? Most (adults) would not. It is likely you would not either.

Please reconsider your online (mis)behavior. It is actually possible to make a point without causing one's self to appear foolish and banal.