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Democrats say despite today’s McCain-Graham-Ayotte press conference, they are ready and willing to fight for Amb. Susan Rice to be secretary of state.
“People are happy to fight for her,” a Democratic Senate aide said. In fact, the aide said, those that think what happened today gives Democrats any pause on Rice’s nomination, should think again.
"This is getting people’s back up,” the aide said. “The general sense of the mood is this is ridiculous. She’s obviously qualified. … No one on our side thinks there’s any substance whatsoever to the Republican criticisms.”
The aide added, “All signals are that [Obama’s] going to nominate her. Everybody’s sort of gearing up for that. It’s a battle, and I think we win because something else has to drop to fatally wound her [Rice]. This is not enough. It depends on how the hearings go.”
The aide also questioned whether Republicans besides McCain, Graham, and Ayotte would think this is a “smart fight to pick.” After all, it would be a “high profile fight with a qualified African-American woman.”
If Rice presents well at her confirmation hearing, if she’s nominated, and rebuts her critics, the aide said there’s a “good chance cooler heads prevail” and there would be more than enough votes to confirm her.
As to Sens. Kelly Ayotte’s and Lindsey Graham’s threats to place holds on a Rice nomination, the aide called that “moot,” because “either we have the votes or we don’t.”
On McCain-Graham-Ayotte’s press conference today, the aide said, “I was stunned. I thought the meeting was a face-saving way for everyone to back down. I was really surprised. It shows this has turned into a total vendetta for them.”
The aide added that “the larger question is if the president wants to spend the political capital.” And if he does, Democrats are ready to fight.
For those thinking Obama might instead avoid the fight and go with Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a likely shoo-in for confirmation, the aide noted that it’s well known that Majority Leader Harry Reid doesn't want to lose the potential vote.
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There has been a very distinct pattern over the past 4 years when it comes to the behavior of the GNOP towards any African-American in President Obama's administration.
When is Daryl Issa going to apologize to Eric Holder?
Strange... even Joe Liebermann was satisfied with Dr. Rice's explanation today...
But NOT these three low-lifes and their "witch hunt"!
Little Lindy Graham came right out and said it is a VENDETTA!
Stick that in your pipe and SPIN it!
Good for them! It's a fight they want then it's a fight we will give them........and WE WILL WIN IT!
Susan Rice for SOS!
Are McCain, Graham and Ayotte: BRAVE ENOUGH to pay more in taxes, and put our country back on track?
Will they work with House GOP to extend the tax cut for the middle class?
How BRAVE are they?
Just brave enough to go after a young, brilliant, african-american woman, who has done a brilliant diplomatic job as United Nations Ambassador?
A woman who cares about our NATIONAL SECURITY?
what is it with gremlins today?! I've got them coming at me everywhere today!
These two yahoos, McCain and Graham are trying so hard not to appear to be the bullies they are, so they bring (maybe bully too) Kelly Ayotte R-NH to bolster their position......and she foolish woman and party hack, provides them with some cover.
This whole episode is nothing but contrived outraged. Their false attacks on Dr. Susan Rice, a highly qualified African-American woman is a disgrace. Between these two idiots Dr. Rice has more intelligence in her little toe than they have between.
But again, I blame the media, in giving these two, more airtime than they deserve.
yeah Feisty, because the GOP hates blacks. Have any new material? sure you do little buddy.
for what? Obama played good little monarch and silenced everyone with his decree. Hear ye hear ye. I think you're just looking for a way to get into good graces with our monarch and perhaps maybe jus,t maybe he'll have room at his court for you. Royal Fool perhaps?
ceasar augustus Royal fool perhaps?
Hey Pizza Boy the only "Royal Fool" is you. Thanks pizza boy. PIZZA PIZZA
FR:As to Sens. Kelly Ayotte’s and Lindsey Graham’s threats to place holds on a Rice nomination, the aide called that “moot,” because “either we have the votes or we don’t.
Isn't it true the bottom line is--the Senate does not have the votes to decline Susan Rice's nomination?
What a bunch of stooges !!!
Feisty - these three don't realize how foolish they look and sound, do they? And, I'd almost think this was a set-up to destroy all three of them if we hadn't seen Rice's appointment coming. This could do two jobs at once - put Rice in as SoS AND diminish McCain, Graham and Ayotte into almost obscurity! Hmmmmm
And when will little Eric apologize to the American people over F&F?
The real fools here, as the Sanity one suggests, is the Progressives who place party over Sanity.
So any dislike of Susan Rice is a racial thing. Why is viral comments about a white guy not a racist thingy?
great comeback Pavlov's monkey. however the man in the yellow hat is looking for you. run along
notatallfunny - no, the real fool here is you who continues to defend the indefensible clowns McCain, Graham and Ayotte. The fool is you who have no integrity but continue to shout against a bright woman who has done her job well and is being attacked because two old men can't accept their party was defeated.
The fool is you because your party lost their intelligence, their integrity and their character long ago yet you continue to defend them. The fool is you because sanity doesn't enter into your playbook - you lack even the normal decency of most human beings.
The fool is you simply because you are a total fool!
Oh, Oh, Oh! Snap! SS you are a force to be reckoned with! You would come in handy on a Friday night bar crawl! LOL
AlaskaGirl - LOL I try to avoid problems in bars. You can usually do more damage without raising your voice - with a few choice words.
But, a bar crawl WOULD be fun!!!!
caesar augustus however the man in the yellow hat is looking for you.
Hey pizza boy! Only the "Royal Fool" wears a "yellow hat". I must say Pavlov had a dog not a monkey. Do you have a monkey fetish? You keep talking about monkey's. Pizza Pizza!!!!
CA, for once I agree with you. Personally, I never attribute a Republican action to racism that can be adequately explained by stupidity!
In my opinion this whole thing smells, taking an American tragedy and making political hay with it ought to earn these people a one way ticket to the country of their choice. How unAmerican is it to take these people deaths and try to make political points about it. Screw them twice and don't kiss them.
Sanity,
Keep on seeking for you seem to have lost it. And I thought that Duke encouraged engaged thinking. Sounds as if you are losing it deary.
Shame on Kelly Ayotte, Shame on her. Shame on her. New Hampshire voters will not appreciate her partisan warfare in the Senate. Voters are sick of this kind of gamesmanship. Ayotte is sinking her political career, mark my words.
notsofunnygirl - and THAT's the best ya got? Clearly you lack depth! Actually you clearly lack just about everything - including any shot at sanity! Don't worry - with any luck, actually with a LOT of luck - you may SOMEDAY become a woman instead of a pitiable little girl.
ntelligence officials: We knew attack in Benghazi was terrorist act from beginning
November 19, 2012, 7:50pm, PST
By Andrea Mitchell, NBC News
There it is.
American Girl - well there you go talking facts and sense so clearly it will not satisfy the rabid Republicans! They are out for blook and reason has no place in their plans.
But, your entire post makes total sense.
blood - not blook - although maybe they're out for that too - whatever it is!
not too quick on the uptake are we. no kidding its pavlov's dog, but perhaps you can explain the theory behind that and how one can attribute that to a monkey, as for the claim of a fetish no. Im merely pointing out you are not any different from one like i did early. Again Monkey See, Monkey Do.
Except your 'adequate' explanation is hardly intelligent in itself 10 out of 9 times. I understand the left has found its ace in the hole if you will. When all else fails call those that arent part of the dysfunctional lefty circle a racist. But rest assured the Old white people as your side says will become the minority and you'll have to find a new 'bogeyman'. Perhaps you can start with the growing hispanic population.
If the republican party lets the two crabby Muppet's in the balcony wage this fight, they will pay a heavy political price, what don't they understand about not being able to win national elections without the votes of blacks and women. Rice has done nothing wrong and is well qualified for the job, and these two guys will be the face of the GOP and will represent exactly what the general electorate is fed up with from republicans. They will insure that the democrats will turn out the vote for the mid-terms, I guess they just need to continue to be punished until they learn their lesson. Rice will dance on their political graves, or at least the political graves of republicans who will lose their seats on account of them. Ha hell knows no fury like that of a women scorned, go get em Ms Rice.
You nailed it Forrest!
McNasty & Graham are the equivalent of "Bert & Ernie"... lol
Closeted BFF's, with hands up their asses...
Well just what is the difference between racism and stupidity, the only thing I can think of is that you can be stupid without being racist, but you can't be racist without being stupid. You can moan about it all you want when people point it out, but the political fact is that the republican party is largely seen as stupid or racist, take your pick, or deny it if you wish, but the numbers with which they lost to Latino, black, and women's votes is staggering. These are hard facts, votes counted, not a poll, the general electorate weighed in and republicans are doomed in future general elections if they can't change the electorates perception.
No I won't. I'll just call it what it is, typical Republican obstructionist bull$h!t. No need to play the race card at all.
So Casey, is the sky blue on the planet that you live on?
Will you look at that?
Little Raaab in MA is back with his 50th re-reg... Happy Anniversary, little man! lmao
Tickity Tock... asswipe!
People, PUHLEESE don't feed him, he will be GONE in no time!
If McCain, Graham, or Ayotte decide they want to put their own, special, super secret hold on Susan Rice's nomination to be SoS, then you can almost guarantee that Harry Reid will change the Senate rules eliminating the ability to filibuster anything after the 1st Day of the new Congress.
If Mitch McConnell were smart he'd have a talk with these idiots now, lest they make the whole Republican Party irrelevant.
whats the matter Feisty, afraid of a little 're-reg'? You sure like to act the tough trucker part but you seem to get all worked up over re-regs. Oh thats right, they're breaking the rules. not like you dont do that right? "asswipe"? COH, you wouldnt have the slightest insight into what honor was.
Are we going to go around and around with these Republican obstructionists for another four years? Please you dodging no good goof offs. Enough allready You are paid by we the people to do the job of running our governing business.This continuing battle against the peoples choice,instead of compromiseing and getting your jobs done should stop or you should consider resigning and let your party choose a person who will be pleased to do the job that we pay you to do. Realise that the people have made their will known and it is not to be run by you sychophants of Norquist.
I love that quick comment Feisty - asswipe. Now if I called Seeking Sanity that, would I be deleted from the site?
Why is it you libbies continue to debase those not in agreement with you with childish words? Ifwords count, as the President suggests, what do you have to say about your meaningless rants with words?
Oh and Sanity, you deary, are a, well, different I'd hate to be in a meeting with you when logic pevails in the objective phase of the sale. Keep many clients?
Well, listoire, apparently the jack off conservatives posting on here are only too willing to continue their perilous ways. They don't understand that this behavior from them and their party leaders will only lessen their chances when 2014 rolls around. They are off to a very bad start, aren't they? Their party already is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, this is why they are holding on tight to this falsehood about Susan Rice. They are watching their party like the train wreck it truly is and they can't figure out how to get the train back. They've been given the information needed, but they have no idea how to execute it as they have been living and breathing this cancer for so many years.
SS
Keep looking for sanity but try looking where there is some and not in the same places you currently look. The Democratic Party is the most insane party there is. But keep telling yourself your smart and keep believing your BS and you will keep looking for Sanity.
Yeah.. you democrats are such a force to be reckoned with. I'm shaking in my shoes as I type this. "Bring it on.." What a bunch of cheerleaders...
Alaska girl... aka.. the only one on here that thinks she has an educated opinion. When states with 11% or higher unemployment rate such as Colorado and California continue to reelect democrats who put them over budget and closer to bankruptcy continually and do nothing about it, that makes people like you the idiot. Being conservative has paid off for many states. They aren't running too far outside of their budgets. Go ahead and bash the republicans and the republican states. Our unemployment rates are low, and we still believe in working for our money.
@Alaska Girl #1.1, Susan Rice for SOS ?
For once, I actually agree with your statement ... you see the COMMON, EVERYDAY meaning of SOS is "Same old $hit". With Susan Rice, we will get the SAME OLD $HIT... more LIES, more DELAYS, more HALF-TRUTHS and more COVERUP !!
If Obama has half a brain, he will withdraw her nomination. Of course, then she might actually tell the truth and could possibly ruin his political standing.
Bring it on you Big Da** Babies! Still backing up your lousy candidate for stepping where he shouldn't have by making her remarks equivalent to Watergate or WMDs. The country is TIRED of the GOP BS! Get back to jobs and growth and quick trying to pick the scab on a healing nation!
"Insane McCain" is just a paranoid, and he is off his many medications. Again! His "Clan" consists of "Graham Cracker," and "Air Head Ayotte." Susan Rice did nothing wrong here, and the "Insane McCain Clan" are trying to score poltical points. They have no clue that there are no "Poltical Points" to score here however, "Insane McCain" has a huge "Political Ax" to grind with the President. He has no intention of wanting justice, and he has blind blood thirsty 'revenge' on his "Brain Washed Mind." This is the biggest "Nothing" in US Political History by "Insane McCain." This is the GOP/Tea Beggers back in 2009 planned to "Attack and Distract" the President on every issue. At the GOP/Tea Begger "Caucus Conspiracy" they took their "Blood Oath" to cause situations that do not exist in reality. Again!
Three little Senators stomping their little feet and throwing a temper tantrum to get attention is all it is.
Much ado has been made of nothing but it is all they've got so they are trying to make the most of it. Unfortunately they are losing the fight and if they keep it up they'll lose the whole darn war.
In Shakespear's England those three would nothing more than groundlings with their dumb shows and noise.
By all means, Senator McCain, Senator Graham and Senator Ayotte, go ahead and pick this fight. Just understand that you may be spending political capital that you might wish you had for a fight further on down the road.
I wonder if this is just strategy on the part of the Evil Three. Do what they can to stop or put on hold the nomination thus possibly forcing president Obama to choose Sen. Kerry for the position of SOS. This would leave his seat open and a chance for the revolting party to stick Scott "I drive a truck" Brown back in there. His loss has gotta hurt and it would not surprise me if he were not working "undercover" in all of this.
Alaska - if that's the plan, I hope President Obama doesn't fall for it. If Rice can't be confirmed - and I think she can - he should choose someone they are not expecting - and leave the Mass seat alone!
I think she can as well, but there is that "hold" rule that all three have threatened they will put on Rice if president Obama appoints her. Then it would take cloture and blah blah blah. I want O to put the screws to those three really bad, stand up to them and do it just to show them that HE is the two term president and they can eat @!$%#. I do agree with you that if he can't get Rice in there then it would be best to keep Kerry where he is and make another choice for SOS. Unless of course there is someone on our side who could beat Scott "I drive a truck" Brown for the seat. I don't know who that may be. Any idea? I don't know much about the game of Chess, but I do know it is about maneuvering and out playing your opponent. This is what politics is all about and now that president Obama has been in the WH for four years I have no doubt that he is more than ready to play a championship game of Chess with the Republicans.
This whole controversy over the talking points is sheet nuts anyway. As Jon Hunstman said, there would be some initial confusion due to the fog of war. Does anyone seriously think Ms. Rice lied because somehow an enraged mob killing 4 Americans in a country for which Obama went to bat for the Libyan people by helping to overthrow Gaddafi would be better politically than a terrorist attack? That is upside down logic if I ever heard it. This is nothing more than a shiny object left over from the Presidential election that the sore losers on the right can't let go of.
Well, then, Al, could somebody slap the shiny object out of their hands because this crap is nothing but a major distraction from what everyone should be focused on: The Economy! Jobs!
AG, don't you just love Republican priorities? Nothing on jobs, fiscal cliff, tax rates, the economy, or even how to secure our consulates. Just all BS all the time. Of course they have no answers or any desire to enter meaningful negotiations with the President so they find some trumped up BS and run with it.
Then why is Barry out Campaigning for his Class warfare tax hikes and not meeting with his Jobs council?
Thinking - you're just a moron. There is no help for someone like you!
Yes, Al. It would seem that their priorities have really not changed. Many of them are showing that they will continue to do whatever they can to disrupt president Obama and his leadership. Their new priority seems to be to make sure that he has the "second term curse". The only curse he has is having to work with a bunch of imbeciles in the Republican party.
The real casualty in this case just like many other incidents created by the Obama Regime is the truth.
There were calls for help that went unanswered.
They left Americans to die.
Rice read the classified report that indicated that it was an AL Qaeda attack then spewed the video story as she was instructed.
This isn't political this is about dereliction of duty and incompetence at the highest levels of Government.
Thinking - the only incompetence here is on the part of the Republicans trying to create a situation where none exists.
It has been explained that Rice's talking points were give early in the investigaton and were meant to keep from compromising future legal proceedings. But, that doesn't fit with the "conspiracy" the GOP is trying to float.
Now, Thinking, SS has explained to you what is going on, so be a good little tea party soldier and move on.
Oh, PS: the dereliction of duty and incompetence is all on the Republican party, or aren't you paying any attention? They've got you people so twisted up about talking points(the shiny object) that you people are missing the big picture.........It's the economy, stupid!
No SS didn't explain anything. He spouted the lies from his Messiah like a good little cult member.
A line on nonsensical bullspit. But, please, elaborate as to how that makes sense.
Simple'
I'll make it real clear. The director of the CIA, and the intelligence community are the ones who deal with intelligence, called classified information. The intelligence community wrote the talking points and took the word terrorism, Al-Quada out. The White House had nothing to do with this. Intelligence is also called spying, secrets, secrecy, and classified information. Homeland Security and the FBI also are privy to this information. What part of National Security issues regarding classified information don't you guys get. The general public is not privy to it, and many congressional members aren't privy to it.
Leaking classified information is a serious matter. No breach of national security was done. The intelligence community rewrote the talking points and Susan Rice followed normal National Security protocol. Why are you so upset regarding national security issues and classified information, the general public is not privy to this information. Much of Iraq and Afghanistan are still classified.
Jackie, you may have stumped Simple at the word "privy". She/he may still be looking it up. Great summation to the facts as we know them, by the way!
Are you referring to Obama's hand picked CIA director? The man who reports to the President?The man who said that their talking points were edited after being turned over to the White Huse.
You cult members are unbelievably gullible.
BTW Jack
Your nonsensical bs fed to the public by the lying racist-in-chief doesn't match the bs Seeking Sanity is attempting to unload. Common when dealing with liars, their stories never seem to quite match.
As part of the lies Susan Rice was spewing at the behest of our racist-in-chief was that Al Quada was decimated because bin Laden was dead. It was all just lies crafted to push the point that Obama was not a total failure in the foreign policy aspect of the Presidency. Epic fail. He was and continues to be a disaster and no cult followers spewing ignorant fantasies are goin to change the facts.
Simple,
Hard to have a rationale, logical discussion of the facts when you post with words such as "racist-in-chief", "cult followers" and "lying". You have your mind made up, no amount of real facts or truth will change your mind. You are entitled to your beliefs, opinions, and "fantasies". You don't like Obama, we all get that. If you want to live with fear and mistrust, be my guest. The rest of us will believe what the government, intelligence community, and investigations are telling us. Continue to live in your world, and we will continue to live in the real, logical, rationale world called the U.S.A., with Barack Obama as our president.
Simple -
The "President's hand-picked CIA Director" is a REPUBLICAN. Could it be he only wanted Rice to know what HE wanted her to know? Nothing would surprise me!
Simple is fresh out of the box as of ths month. Given the "intelligence" of their posts, I'm sure they will step in it soon enough and be banned again. Carry on AG, Jackie, Seeking, & Suzq and pay the re-reg no mind.
Suzq... Sorry to burst your bubble...but Petreaus already testified he reported immediately that it was an Organized attack...he then did not turn around and write B.S. AND misleading talking points because ...well then he would have had to testify he did that...or he goes to jail for lying under oath. He also testified he did not know who changed his talking points.
Also ...please dont forget our President said he told the American Public it was a Terroristic attack the day after in the Rose Garden... so does that make him a liar? or Susan Rice...Because our President says what he means and means what he says......Somebody is lying in the Administration...can you guess who?
I have friends in foreign service at embassies in Africa. According to them Stevens was CIA, didn't want security interferring with his ability to be out among the people of Libya. He even jogged through the streets unaccompanied. He wasn't assassinated - he died in a safe room of the fire started at the Embassy. Why was the chief and deputy chief of the Benghazi mission NOT in Benghazi?
Raising taxes on those that make over $250,000 a year $56 billion.
Current deficit per year before Obamacare kicks in $1 trillion.
Leftist denial priceless.
Thinking Long- at what point will a lite bulb go off and you understand your theories make no sense.
How can Japan function with debt one and a half times higher then their GNP and yet their long term debt sells for under 1.5%?
Can you please name one country that has tried your economici theories where it WORKS???????
Not thinking long term/ I do not understand where you objectionists are coming from nor where you are going to. It appears to me that you are saying that as the rich can't pay off our monstrous debts by themselves that we should not expect them to go back to their former tax bracket. This can't make sense so would you tell us what you mean?
The lady has two decades worth of incompetence and idiocy that says she's not worthy to be Secretary of State. It was her advice which led the other documented Liar-in-Chief to proclaim it was the lowest point of his 8 years in office. Yes, even lower than Lewinsky or dealing with Chinese criminals.And he was a man with many lowpoints.
Our inept Racist-in-Chief should spare the citizens more embarassment by not nominating her.
why arent the Repugs mad at Petraeus as it was HIS CIA that created Rice's talking points?
Oh yeah, Petraeus is suppossed to be one of their future stars destined for high office in 2016
Hypocrits is all the Repugs have become
Republicans are trying to make a big issue out of nothing. I don't care if there was some mistaken information bandied about for a few days. It seems like it was just a mistake and it didn't have negative effects on anything important. To hear the Republicans tell it, you'd think that the mistaken explanation about the cause of the attack was the cause of the attack!
Before we give the republicans any credibility, how about they explain the WMD's in Iraq? Then we can work from there.
Exactly SteveR!
The terminology "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was first promulgated by Bill CLinton and Madeleine Albright ... long before George W. Bush was ever elected !
Before we can give YOU any "credibility", how about YOU Demmies explain that ! Look it up !! WMD language started in the Clinton years ... and you clowns continue to try and pin it on Bush !!!
Why is our government wasting time with Benghazi. We are facing a financial cliff and the candidates all promised that jobs, jobs, jobs would be the first order of business. The election is over. It's time to stop the witch-hunt and get back to work.
If you agree with me call these Senators and let them know
Kelly Ayotte (202) 224-3324
Lindsey Graham (202) 224-5972
John McCain (202) 224-2235
I would like this to be a front page story tomorrow. I know this website doesn't have enough viewers to make a difference, but if you notify your freinds on facebook and they notify their freinds, Who knows?
Why was time wasted on Watergate?
Whammm bulance lmao you are funny .
Susan Rice was appointed U.N. Ambassador because she is sorta black and kinda female. Qualifications were of no concern. She is nothing but a lying Obama shill. Thank you Senators Graham, McCain and Ayotte for doing the job you were elected to do.
Guess you think the same thing about Condi Rice too. What qualifications did she have??? She used false, and misleading "talking points" for congress, the U.N., and the general public. Condi Rice was the Bush/Cheney shill and joined at the hip with them.
P.S. She is also "sorta black and kinda female".
Both very qualified.... Both very capable of standing up for themselves. They dont need a Race Card to hide behind (even though the Left wants to give Susan Rice one). Susan Rice is a Rhodes Scholar..she is very qualified....but has to answer the questions on Bengazie.... Can we trust her?
A very smart, black woman is definitely a threat to an old outa touch white guy with a sidekick and a muse . . . sadly. You'd think they'd want the smartest, best person for the job and that's Susan Rice.
When Susan Rice actually answers questions, then maybe she is worthy of consideration. Susan Rice BOMBED yesterday .... and all the libbies thinks she deserves a pass ! The quest for the truth continues .... while Obama runs off, campaigning yet again to "SELL" his ideas of raising taxes that are woefully insufficient to reduce the national deficit.
Here's the real deal that Demmies don't want to hear because it will make them look foolish: Obama has no real desire to reach a "fiscal cliff settlement ! Obama WANTS THE BUSH TAX CUTS TO EXPIRE ... then he will have more revenue to redistribute. Taxes will go up on everyone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do you think the Bush Tax Cuts were only extended until just AFTER the Nov, 2012 elections ???
Seems to me, they need to be asking the questions of someone who was there not someone who was given the information by someone else!
Rice said she was relying on information from the intelligence community, but the head of the intelligence community says “We knew the attack in Benghazi was terrorist act from beginning” Rice was just saying what Obama told her to say, and now she is lying to protect him.
With each new revelation, more of Obama's lies and coverup are exposed. The time is coming when even the most delusional Obama apologist will be forced to admit the truth.
The undeniable fact is that it was a terrorist attack.
For months knowledgeable State Department experts, including Amb. Stevens, had been warning that the Benghazi Mission was pitifully unprotected. They literally begged for more security. During that whole time, Obama refused to acknowledge the danger and denied all requests.
Finally, on September 11th, the attack that Obama had refused to believe in, happened. Obama knew immediately that it was a terrorist attack, and that he was responsible for leaving the Mission helpless. I'm sure the President experienced a horrible sinking sensation when he realized the he had made a catastrophic error so serious that it bordered on treason. Instead of mitigating his blunder by immediately sending military support to Benghazi, he covered it up by refusing all the pleadings for help. He fabricated a story out of thin air that it was a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film, because the truth would have exposed his incompetence just prior to the election.
The truth is emerging like a rising tide that will eventually drown this corrupt President.
Would that be the intelligence community headed up by whom? Petreaus? The Republican CIA Director?
Ya, I thought so!
Suzq - so you think Petraeus lied about knowing immediately it was a terrorist attack. Interesting theory. What, then, is your theory as to why Obama denied security to the Mission in the months before the attack and continued to withhold security during the attack?
I would also like to hear your theory as to why Rice maintained for two weeks that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film. She offered no evidence to support that contention. Not the slightest shred of evidence EVER indicated a spontaneous protest The attack started in late evening and went on to 5 in the morning. Not a single report or photograph indicated protestors with the usual crude signs. Just well armed terrorists with heavy weapons and clear pre-planning.
And yet Rice continued to insist it was a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.
What's your theory about that Suzq?
No more theories Suzq? Here's mine, then. Obama initiated a covert program to smuggle weapons from Qaddafi’s stockpiles to the Muslim Brotherhood rebels in Syria. These included shoulder-fired antiaircraft missiles and perhaps anti-personnel land mines and chemical weapons. He then realized that if some of those weapons ended up being used against us and our allies, he would be held responsible. His only option was to leave the Mission completely helpless and hope that all signs of his mistake would be wiped out by the inevitable destruction, murder and looting of the Mission by a local Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group.
Now they try to tell you the information was classified... Does everybody forget when Obama had Candy read back the transcripts that this was a Terroristic attack ...the following day in the Rose Garden. Was the President that Incompetent to spew Classified information...or was it all just another Lie?
It was just another LIE ... anything to keep the truth from coming out BEFORE the election !
Just wait until Obama INTENTIONALLY lets the "Bush Tax Cuts" expire ... then more lies will follow as well.
Are you guys writers of 'dime' crime novels?
Conspiracies everywhere.
Nobody but you guys know the truth.
Come on!
Bush's Rice Was A Real Winner -- A Bush National Security Adviser -- Before SOS -- When Bush Dumped On SOS General Powell On The WMD Iraq War Issue! She Was Up To Her Neck In That WMD Mess. And As An Adviser Well I'd Say We Didn't Listen Let alone Take Her Advise!
Obama's Rice Is Already In The Game As UN Ambassador And Would Be A Natural Fit For The SOS Job -- One Sharp Cookie -- You Can't Buy This Type Of Talent -- And Those Three Republican Clowns Know It! McCain & Graham Have Limited Life Times Left In Congress -- But Ayotte-- Made A Fatal Career Error When She Hocked Up With Those Two Want A Be Has Beens! She Sounds Like A Palin Understudy To Me -- All Mouth No Mind!
Obama Could And Should Really Stick It To These Republican Attack Dogs -- With Rice -- Being His Choice -- And If Rice Isn't Up For It -- I Wouldn't Pick Kerry -- But Rather Ask General Powell To Go For The SOS Job Again -- Now That Would Really Send The Republicans Dogs Running For Cover -- And Be One Hell Of A Pay Back For Powell For The Crap And Rap They Put On Him Or Simple Us Powell As A Decoy -- With His Ok -- To Front For Rice As A Possible Choice For SOS!
McCain Would Become Mc No Brain On The Spot And Graham Would Be A Real Gram Cracker!
The Republicans Ran Like Hell From Romney And They Would Repeat Their Performance With These Two / Three.
Interesting Possibliities Here!
See Folks -- We Can Play Too!
CMCPO...What does Bush have to do with Bengazie? Are you trying to actually blame Bengazie on Bush?
Paybacks,WMDS...Powell...etc ..Really? I didnt vote for Bush..what does he have to do with Susan Rice Lying (now admitedly according to GMA) to the American Public?
Here is a News Flash for you ... 4 American people died! Why was there a cover up of lies? Why did it happen? Quit putting your Politics in front of Human Lives!
WMD's do not have to be nuclear weapons. WMD's are weapons that kill mass amounts of people when deployed on the battle field.
Included in the definition of WMD's area also biological weapons and POISON GAS. You know like the poison gas used on Kurds by Sadam?????
Oh yeah, can't mention that..........it doesn't ADVANCE liberal template of NO WMD's In Iraq........sorry.
As a black man I view this as crackerbarrel politics at its worst. Two little bitty crackers ganging up on a black woman. Oh, I forgot about Sadie Sue who is in bed with these crackers.
Really...nice Racist statement. Fortunately Susan Rice does not need a race Baiter like you or the Race Card...it is an insult to her... She is a Rhodes Scholar..and Graduated from a top Ivy League schools in the Country. She is more than capable of defending her position....
Rhodes Scholar ........Obama puppet.......... LIAR (and black and a woman, so she gets a PASS).
Nothing will come from this................its all information America could have used BEFORE the election.
There was a DRONE flying over the Embassy DURING the attack........beaming live video footage back to the WH.
Obama, Rice, and Hillary KNEW all a long it was al Qaeda.........and ADVANCED the LIE to cover up Obama's LIE al Qaeda had been NEUTRALIZED.
So why not Susan Rice as Secretary of State????
She is no more of a LIAR than Obama or Hillary.
I think it is a "resume enhancer".......liar.
To be a part of this Administration....right?
AND the LIBERAL TEMPLATE of this is now......
Rice was GIVEN bad information by the CIA.
It was a "spontaneous demonstration" over a VIDEO.
We knew all along this was a "terrorist attack".
Just a bunch of "angry white guys" picking on a "poor black woman".
HHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH???????????
Liberals will point fingers..............the right will be indignant.
Americans will not care as long as Obama-Claus keeps signing the entitlement checks.
Kerry or Rice and the difference is????
MRUSEURHEAD...That is what Susan Rice claimed..but the CIA never had a report made up about Spontaneous attacks....How can Susan Rice deceminate a report that never existed? Also they claim the real report was "Classified". How can it be Classified if Obama stated in the Rose Garden it was a Terroristic attack? Remember he had Candy read his statments back....So did the President spew Classified information?
Remember.. The President means what he says and says what he means...and they wonder why he gets no respect....
MIKE..........slowly...........so you will possibly understand........T H E R E W A S A D R O N E sending back L I V E V I D E O during the attack A S I T H A P P EN ED.Obama and Rice knew with in minutes of the attack it was al Qaeda..........not a "spontaneous demonstration"
MRUSEURHEAD.....Read my post... I am agreeing with you.....
"Obama and Rice knew with in minutes of the attack it was al Qaeda..........not a "spontaneous demonstration"
Were the attackers wearing name tags stating they were Al Qaeda?
IDIOT...........no and they were carrying AK47's, RPG's, and mortars........not demonstration signs like "spontaneous demonstrators" usually do............
HELLO.......... NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
There was a drone sending back to the WH.......... LIVE VIDEO of the attack.
And besides wasn't the story that........... OBAMA AND RICE KNEW ALL ALONG.............
before they didn't ................it was TERRORISTS.
Or is that the other way around?????
Can't have it both ways SKIPPY......or wait
whatever LIE works at the time............RIGHT???
RIGHT?
golfsleft... I dont know ...Why dont you ask General Patreus ...he is the one that reported it ansd testified to it.
BTW....when you to a gathering with shoulder Launching missels ...it is safe to say it was an Organized Attack...
G.D. these worthless republicons that have nothing to do but obstruct anything this PRESIDENT tries to accomplish. Susan Rice has more brains than the three of these LOSERS PUT TOGETHER! They ignore their responsibilities as public servants and their oath of office, to waste time with their childish temper tantrums. I cannot find the words to explain the disgust and disdain I feel every time I see their faces or hear their voices. This country would be so much better off if people like them would be institutionalized to get the care mental cases need. We cannot survive four more years with republicons doing nothing but trying to destroy this COUNTRY for some twisted political vendetta.
It seems obvious to me that these 3 had no intention of listening to anything Rice said. Just more Republican obstructionism.
They heard Rice say per GMA this morning...That she knew what she was telling the American people was wrong...That is what the Senators found disturbing.....
I can't find anything about Rice being on GMA this morning.
GMA ..Reported what Rice said in the meetings with the Senators...George and Company reported it in the first 15 mins of the show...
Sorry mike I had to run my 8 year old out to the school bus and was reading and posting and putting his coat on......multi tasking. On vacation.........use it or lose it vacation, NO money to actually go somewhere's.
No..problem.My vacation is a little longer...Out of work Insulator (local 2 Pittsburgh) thanks to this great President and his Administration..They are shutting down many of the Local Power Plants...I still can not believe PA VOTED for this idiot.
I was in construction for years .....,.work 8 months, laid off 4...weather related lay offs. Became a garbage man.........now I am paid to haul away Obamas destroyed economy to the dump....sad.
Funny...most of these people on the forum would automatically think we are Hard Core Republicans...Not just somebody who has a thorough disgust for this Administration and the lack of Leadership as well as their lack of knowledge when it comes to the Economy. These people think if you raise the taxes on the wealthy all of their problems would go away.....That is the Divide and conquer rule of this President . Take care.. enjoy your vacation .. I am sure we will meet up on another blog.
Yes I am a "dyed in the wool" middle class, not even close to being a 1%ter. I am just an average Joe, with and average job trying to stay one step ahead of the bill collector.
But I make to much money to qualify for "entitlements" and barely enough to stay afloat.
I am not a "homo-phobe"(don't care just don't see the need for sexual "terrorists" demanding I must, they don't care about me).
I don't hate women( I had to pay for my own contraception, I think everyone should take responsibility for their own, but would not be in favor of a law that makes it harder to "get some" just love children so I do not support using ABORTION as a contraception since there are plenty of products out there to prevent pregnancy, again personal responsibility).
My wife and I had 2 children in 15 years of marriage, had a great sex life but didn't need to abort mistakes.
Not a racist, am a proud family member of a DIVERSE family(love all equally), my AVATAR is of my great grandson(who looks more like Obama than me) who died in July of SIDS at 2 1/2 months, and broke my heart.
I do not HATE anyone, even our President. I do believe however in fiscal conservatism(hand up, not hand out) and believe his policies are destructive.
I would even go as far as supporting HIM, if he would ADMIT the last 4 years were a mistake and did a 180.
But that won't happen, liberals never have seen an "entitlement" to expensive.......or a tax to HIGH.
I don't think you are "hardcore Republicans", but there is ZERO doubt you are BOTH hardcore ignorant SO CALLED Americans. Who obviously are literally clueless as to not only why you are REALLY out of work, but also to ignorant to do the RESEARCH to explain it. So what do you do instead? You bash President Obama. So let's go at it.
"Mruseurhead" The REAL reason construction has gone through such a rough period was AND IS the continuing fallout from the REBUBLICAN/CONSERVATIVE/GWB economic policies that began under Ronald Reagan, are still in place and led DIRECTLY to the recession we are slowly recovering from. And that was combined with the blatant obstructionism of REPUBLICANS in the House and Senate who refused to pass ANY bills that would help the economy. And that included a larger "Stimulus" (which did work by the way) and other jobs related bills that would have definitely got construction back on track. You can also thank the Wall Street and the Banking/Loan industry who were giving out money like they were printing it in the basement, but have now tightened credit to the point were it is almost impossible to obtain it for the majority of Americans. And that INCLUDES construction loans.
"mike-Pa" They are "shutting down local power plants" because they were to expensive to operate, the economy, the area already has over capacity and they were and are MAJOR POLLUTERS.
"Steve Davies, a GenOn spokesman, said the Elrama and Niles, Ohio, closings this year are driven by economic conditions, including the high price of coal and lower electricity demand.
"They were struggling independent of environmental regulations. They are less efficient and more expensive to operate," he said. "The other, later closures are triggered by environmental regulations that take effect in 2015." Mr. Davies said the three Western Pennsylvania plant closures will result in a loss of 180 jobs -- 60 at Elrama, 40 at New Castle and 80 at Shawville. All of those workers, as well as workers at other power plants scheduled to close, can apply for job openings at other GenOn power plants, he said. The eight closures will reduce the company's power output by 3,120 megawatts to 19,490 megawatts nationwide. It had previously announced two other power plant closures in Virginia and California and one new power plant in California that will come on line in mid-2013.
Lisa Graves-Marcucci, a community outreach coordinator with the Environmental Integrity Project, a national environmental organization, said GenOn is "doing the right thing" by shutting down the Elrama plant, which has not operated full time for several years. "They had to make a decision whether to clean it up or bring it down. It's been a bad performer for a long time," said Ms. Graves-Marcucci, who lives in Jefferson, near the power plant. "Either way, it would be good for the health of people living nearby." Total annual health costs caused by 2009 pollution emission levels at Elrama, New Castle and Shawville are $836,000,000, based on a pollution-to-health-effects formula in a 2009 study by Harvard University researchers led by Jonathan Levy.
The Sierra Club hailed the closures as a "victory for clean air" and, citing data from the Clean Air Task Force, a national environmental advocacy organization, said pollution emissions reductions because of the plant closures will prevent more than 179 premature deaths, 300 heart attacks and 2,800 asthma attacks.
"Above all, this is a win for public health and for families who have been breathing polluted air from these outdated plants," said Bruce Nilles, senior director of Sierra's Beyond Coal campaign. "GenOn has recognized that operating outdated, dirty coal plants just doesn't make economic sense anymore, especially in a time when constructing a wind farm is now cheaper than building a new coal plant."
The GenOn deactivations will not significantly reduce regional electricity supply, which remains much higher than demand, said Paula DuPont-Kidd, a spokeswoman for PJM Interconnection, the regional transmission organization that coordinates the movement of wholesale electricity for 60 million people in the District of Columbia and 13 mid-Atlantic states, including Pennsylvania."
And I am sure you are going to bring up the fact that President Obama is going after coal fired plants that refuse to upgrade their emissions controls. These companies had years to do it themselves. They refused. If you want to blame anybody, blame the company YOU WORK FOR. Not the president.
And last but from from least I have plenty of additional ammunition in my foot locker based on SOLID RESEARCH AND FACTS, so as I said previously, let's go at it. You both state opinions and speculation with ZERO facts to back it.
Stimulus worked for WHO???? The UNIONS? GM still teetering on bankruptcy? And I live on the LEFT COAST and I will tell you how great wind farms are........there ripping us off. Here in the Pacific Northwest, we have DAMS (already built years ago)
BUT HYDRO power is not GREEN according to you leftist environmental wackoes. (WHAT IS MORE GREEN THAN RIVER WATER OR MORE RENEWABLE IT RAINS LIKE HELL OVER HERE).
But OH NO...we gotta have WIND....ITS GREEN AFTER ALL....and so what happens??
Well when it rains and snows alot over here..its not FAIR to the WIND PROVIDERS and it is against the LAW to sell excess power to other States............
SO...........we as rate payers MUST pay for the lost revenue when wind generators are shut down..........
and that is just a small example of your so called PROGRESSIVE B/S.
Worked at Elaram... yea officially they have to put a reason for closing. By the way ...you really do not hve real clue aboput the Power Industry in my area. Why do you think there is a skeleton crew in Elrama...do you know why ..of course you dont. They will be starting that plant up in a few years to rid their coal contracts and start again. Fossil Fuels are huge in the Pittsburgh area...yes if you keep upping the air quality standards to the point where you can not achieve because you run out of money to build equipment for those standards...well the reason you close down the plant ...Economic reasons . Mr Facts .. I am sure you were not aware of the Coal Contract Mr Facts..the way you are prtraying the Plants trying to reach Emission standards are not even close...as much as you want to make it Black and White. Yes the the President Indecisive Energy Policy is what is causing the lack of work. You see Mr Facts,.....the owners of Power Plants have "Boat Loads of Money to spend".. They will not spend the money until they know what Standards will be put in place...see you really do not know the situation unless you are on the ground at Union meetings (who talk to the owners) It is easy to read and article and think you know...sorry ...you really dont know the situation. Most Fossil plants close because it takes too much money to reach the new Emission Standards...So the result they give for closing...well they are Economic..You get it? Yes this is my Industry...Believe me ..I think I know a little about it....
I use to be hard core Democrat.... My Grandfather was the first B.A ever for the Local 2 Insulators.
Use to be ..Dems get into office ...raise the Emission standard enough to put people back to work...Now they raise it to shut down Fossil Fuel Plants. Go figure...
Sorry for all the typos... I ran out of time correcting all my errors. I am all thumbs on this keyboard.
The funny thing is ... I have a hard copy of the article you copied up on your screen. The part you really do not have a grip on...are the true realities of the situation. If you are shutting Elrama down ...Why the Skeleton crew...I gave you an answer you will not find in an article. Yes they close for Economic reasons...The Economic Reasons are not always the way you may perceive them. I do appreciate you at least having some interest though.
The obstruction of Rice's nomination is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt by the Republicans to get John Kerry nominated, thus vacating his senate seat. They hope to fill Kerry's empty seat with another one of their crooks, most likely Scott Brown, who was defeated this election by a Democrat, Elizabeth Warren.
With the Republicans, it is NEVER about what the country wants. It's ALWAYS about "I want MY way, and I will do anything dishonest to get it."
No Randy.......... that is now the TEMPLATE the left is pushing.
No ONE cares on the right who gets the SOS job.......Rice or Kerry.....they are both incompetent.
And ONE SEAT in the Senate won't do anything as far as MAJORITY goes......
It is about Obama, Rice, Hillary LYING to ADVANCE a LIE.
That Obama's Middle East policy was working........Bin Laden was dead
.........Al Qaeda was in HIDING........and Obama had a sterling record on foreign policy
...........going into the election.
It MAY have damaged Obamas re-election if the TRUTH that it was an al Qaeda attack came out BEFORE the election.
Come to find out though Americans don't CARE.........and re-elected Obama-Claus anyways to keep their entitlement checks coming.
Mruseurhead is correct on all points.
"Mruseurhead is an uninformed ignoramus who refuses to do even basic RESEARCH. He states opinions, not based on facts. Want proof that he refuses to even BASIC research? He states "Come to find out though Americans don't CARE.........and re-elected Obama-Claus anyways to keep their entitlement checks coming." That is DIRECTLY from the Faux Lying News/Rush Limbaugh/Conservative Propaganda Machine talking points. And is a COMPLETE CROCK. But your buddy "Mruseurhead" just spouts it like a little parrot. So please answer this question "Mruseurhead and Blamo". Do the Pollys want a cracker?
WHAT PART OF DRONES SENDING BACK LIVE VIDEO TO THE WHITE HOUSE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
I do not get my info through one source UNLIKE you....LIBERAL MEDIA ONLY....and sticking with liberal media TEMPLATE.
Even a dolt like you could add up that Obama and Rice claiming they were mis-informed when it is now common knowledge there was a drone sending LIVE VIDEO back to the WH "situation room".
Even the FACT that Obama and Rice.... say they knew all along it was terrorists(which contradicts the spontaneous demonstration story .....FIRST ADVANCED....
but EVEN THAT, doesn't faze you...........nope your a liberal LAP DOG.....lapping up everything liberal media tells you and QUESTIONING nothing.
I call that COWARDICE.......to AFRAID of the truth ........to research.
And to much of a partisan to care.......as long as a Democrat is in the WH........ you can close your eyes to the TRUTH.
I PITY you....progressive............I PITY YOU.